>>25661
>no Java application is closed source

True - it is clear that you are an expert on the subject.

Minecraft's source is available here, for those interested:

http://code.google.com/p/infiniminer/source/browse/trunk/code/InfiniminerClient/Engines/BlockEngine.cs

Welcome Oeth, this thread is the right place to go proclaiming that everything was better under the gold standard.
Please use it if you want to do things like that again: Some of us get annoyed when you disturb questdis threads with unrelated topics. Excusing yourself by claiming that it was a good way to get negative responses is pretty much a textbook description of what trolling is. I find your claim to *need* those negative responses a bit incredible since entering "gold standard" in your choice of search engine should quickly turn up the Wikipedia pages and other webpages about that topic, and about ninety seconds of skimming tells me that the Wikipedia page isn't bad or especially hard to read.

In case you were serious about that though, perhaps the reason you didn't do that was because you either found it hard to read or trust what you found from a quick websearch. The solution to that is more work: Even if you have trouble with an individual webpae itself you can look up each term you're stumbling over until you have a clearer picture. Wikipedia in particular tends to make this easy with all of its in-text links to key terms. If that isn't enough help and you're still worried about whether a webpage is lying to you I recommend you familiarize yourself with logical fallacies, paradoxes, biases, maybe epistemology, but particularly the subject of how PR works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_public_relations-related_articles

Oeth/Theo don't act like a jerk. Your argument in the Dungeoneer discussion thread only remains remotely logically consistent if you have a profound lack of respect for your peers. But even with that it fails because the topic you brought up didn't have any bearing on the ongoing conversation, and didn't lead to anything productive, we just changed the subject back to what we were already discussing. Your contribution was to pointlessly disrupt things and it's only through the virtue of others that you didn't derail everything.

>The real question is did I actually plan it all along or am I just good at covering my ass with logic? And, in the end, does it really matter?
The answer is that you clearly didn't, and that you clearly aren't. Your rep would suffer far less if you left things at you simply being tremendously uninformed and wrong rather than taking the effort to backpedal with "Oh no, I'm not dumb, I'm really just a huge asshole guys.". Especially when you do so so unconvincingly.

Regardless of the truth of your claims, you're wrong and here's why: if you have enough faith in your fellow posters that you believe they will keep things on topic and productive in the face of your disruptive efforts, then you should have enough faith in their ability to stay on topic and productive if your efforts are honest and productive in the first place.

>>25735
But you're so good at what you do! Why should I let your talent to to waste by looking up things myself when you're chomping at the bit to do it for me? Don't be modest; you're a gifted researcher, debater and educator! See how much you've taught me in the short time we've known each other. I feel smarter every time we talk, and with your passionate devotion to students it's hard for us not to feel our mind expanded by your diligent prodding. I'm telling you, people pay money for this. How the more generous you are to part your precious, productive time with me.

Don't you pretend to be all aloof, cause I know deep down you really care. You big, teasing teddybear, you!

?(;^D

Oeth 2013/12/15(Sun)21:37 No. 25742 ID: 878a25
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>>25738
Alright, since it seems that fighting the temptation to respond to me has proven too much, allow me me phrase it this way:

Troubling yourself with my behavior will not come to any productive conclusion. I do what I do because I want to do it, the choices involved and the resulting consequences are mine to make and mine deal with. Avoid complicating the matter by involving yourselves in my messy affairs. All I'll do in response is continue to act petty, foundless and vapid. I'll laugh, put on another childish display to satisfy myself and pretend it never happened. Just imagine me with my fingers in my ears and singing 'lalalalalala-la, I-cant-hear-you~' That should fall in line with the caricature of myself I've encouraged. Let the mods do their job and deal with delinquents like me and keep yourself out of the limelight I seem to so desperately crave and fear. At most, be like Buzz Lightyear by calling me a sad, strange little man. The last thing any of you need is to be over-associated with my byronic duplicity.

I still look forward to communicating on any other topic or subject and to contine my interaction with the both of you in whatever form you'd choose to have it. Again, I appreciate the concern, but if I may be so blunt it's not your place to give it to me. I'll continue to do what I do for whatever reasons (if any) I do them and I will refuse any and all help, aid or attempted correction in or on matter. I just like acting like a jerk and there's little else to it.

>>25742
I'd be happy for discussion of your behavior to never happen, but you're the one who broached the topic in the disc thread. Your behavior is yours to determine, yes, but that isn't a sufficient argument to ward off any criticism, or ignore the way your behavior affects others.

There's room to act like a jerk without being quite so awful about it. The community is full of examples.

Bob 2013/12/16(Mon)16:30 No. 25745 ID: ebe087
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>>25742

You have to be something really special to make a big old post in general discussion like that. I don't exactly know what you thought would happen, but you can't really call yourself smart and also flagrantly ask for a ban like this.

>Troubling yourself with my behavior will not come to any productive conclusion.

If you're being a shithead and making shitty posts, it is other people's right and responsibility to try to stop you. Troubling themselves with your behavior did come to a productive conclusion. Someone reported you, and you were banned. Reading this post makes me think it should have been for longer than a day.

Either you're stupid or egotistical or most likely both, but rein in whichever it is or it'll be longer next time.

>>25745
>>25742
Affected narcissism attempting to conceal a huge inferiority complex. The posturing and wordy peacock is an obvious facade in an attempt to over compensate for something. The guy didn't have confidence he could keep up the act and so asked for an excuse to be offended and leave. A one day ban ought to be as good as a lifetime for those kind of people, too cowardly and ashamed to return to a place of their humiliation and face the music.

If you're reading this Oeth; this isn't a place to express your insecurities in hopes of garnering sympathy. Take your slime, your sleaze and snake oil somewhere else. Don't just throw your feels at people and expect to reel them into your problems, and then claim that's the opposite of what you want. Don't be a false support to someone else's work by being two-faced and buckling at the first signs of your own incompetence, and don't channel your sexual frustrations into a useless charade of self-righteousness. There aren't any white knights in this world, least of all those who hide appetites behind false and sterilized reasoning. (fighting naked like celts gives you bonuses? You gotta be fucking kidding me.) What you claim to be perversion is just a different taste, so stop pretending like you are better than us because you prefer vanilla over everything else they serve at the ice cream counter.

Oh wow, you pegged me. I'd be impressed by your appraisal of my 'textbook' personality traits, that is if you didn't read it out of my actual textbook. Judging by how specific your arguments are I'd say you're either a mentalist (except you shouldn't be able to read my face or tells since we are not discussing in person) or you know me far more intimately than an average poster should. I've covered your ass once, kid. I'm not going to do it again. I don't have a bone to pick with anyone else here, but for some reason some poster or another smears my name with shit and it reeks of your funk. You've even went so far as to parrot my dating advice that I pulled from a star trek paperback novel and mockingly imitated my use of semi-colons. Real sneaky, you.

You got personal issues deal with me personally. You got quest issues deal with me here, but don't mix the two; I don't want to hear about it over dinner with relatives. I already make a fool of myself, I don't need you to do it for you. This is your last warning: keep the shit up and I'll unplug the router and change the password on the mobile hotspot. Lets see how smug you are then.

(Merry Christmas)

>>25770
If it helps I have no idea who you are and I find you as insufferable as whoever you're talking to

Ghosts of Christmas' Dickery (Dickenry?) Past Oeth !!qvAwywMJL2 2013/12/25(Wed)23:14 No. 25783 ID: f8acaa
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That's sweet of you, but there's no need to sugar coat it. I'll just migrate my junk outta your way or get a new hobby. He only comes here to troll me and once I'm gone he's not going to be a bother and we'll both be out of TGchan's hair. By the time y'all wake up tomorrow it will be like a bad dream chased away by the smell of artificial heating and the grey light of an overcast winter day. Before the Nightmare That Lasted 'Till Christmas ends though I gotta ask participating questers for the permission to use the protagonist of my quest elsewhere (since they are the ones that created her after all) and address one more issue:

So I've been getting some emails for some concerned and some dissatisfied questers, one from a temporary email account that I can't reply to. So for that one person I can't email, here are the answers to those questions you asked.

Q1
>*personal question*
A. I do and I have, not that it matters.

Q2
>*personal question*
A. Not relevant and doesn't change anything if you knew.

Q3
>*about my position on money*
A. I'd like to make a slight correction in your understanding of my position. I am not arguing for the gold standard, I am arguing against fiat money and claiming the gold standard was a slight improvement on a fundamentally bad idea to begin with (bank notes). A quester posted an article about how the gold standard was poop and backed this claim with how it failed when implemented under the least ideal economic circumstances i.e. wartime, especially wars that effect the entire world's economies when everyone is tightening their belts, rationing their food and seeing war ravage their communities. If you want a similar source to understand my position this person, while not a certified professional, wrote an opinion column that explains my position with some pretty solid examples of history.

Link: http://www.nowpublic.com/world/fiat-currency-good-or-bad

Q4
> why do you act like a total X, Y and Z
A. I don't like arguments and try to avoid them whenever I can. Usually when I try to defuse the situation by prancing around like a harlequin people just dismiss me as a dumbass and decide the conversation isn't worth their time. The difference is I used that tactic on regular forums where that sort of discussion would not be considered so brazen or off topic and nobody's creative efforts would be aversely affected, /tg/ who tend to be more tolerant of tomfoolery, and with friends who just accept that about me.

It's never seriously backfired until now, and if I knew the reaction would be like that I would have just wrote the suggestion without the 'look everybody, I'm a tool!" preamble and kept my mouth shut until the economy debate blew over.

Q5
>*personal question*
A. I don't have an answer for that. It's not that I don't know or that I'm evading the question, I just don't have an answer that would satisfy you. Just continue assuming what you have about it since I can't really prove otherwise without giving you my name, showing you my bank statements and the activity logs on my Internet accountability software I installed to keep an eye on how my flatmates use the services I pay for (which for obvious reasons I'm not going to do.) Even then, it would only prove someone was somewhere long enough to pay for a ticket, not that he used it.

Q6
>and that post with the photo from Toy Story?
A. Trying to be respectful, except the part where despite my claims I was never that fudging interesting. The reason for that? Not that fudging interesting.

All right, thats it. Now I know it's a tradition for evil spirits to wail and gnash their teeth as they are cast out, but I hope you'll excuse me if I just humbug and be on my way. Good riddance to bad rubbish and whatnot.

>>25784
Oh my god shut up. Shut up. No one cares. No one fucking cares. This is not the general argument thread and there is nowhere on this site intended for arguments about gold standards and fiat money. Do you even know what this thread is for? It's for moving and quarantining stupid bullshit that gummed up other threads. Posting your arguments directly into it like this is just a) a full admission you don't know how to drop an argument and b) an indication that this is perhaps not the board for you until you spend a bit more time seeing how things are done around here.

Please stop posting in this thread and don't take your arguments to other threads on this site. Thanks.

>>78912
You'll note I did not attempt to answer when you asked the initial question. I responded to your discussion when you posited an explanation or theory- that patchwork nature would suggest her biology behave in a specific way (discrete parts should have discrete features). So I brought up the fact we already had an explanation as to why her patchwork biology does not necessarily behave that way (discrete parts have been altered and integrated to for stability and function).

It's possible that explanation does not apply to the specific case you asked after, but I hardly see anything remiss my in referring back to the general case when the issue was raised.

That's kind of how speculative discussion works- we bring up both theories and the information we have.

You could make the case there's not supposed to be any discussion what so ever of ideas in the ITQ threads aside from the characters, aside from the fact you were discussing it not a post prior with someone else. (So it's okay to say "maybe it's GBGB" but not okay to say "we know her patchwork chunks have been altered"?). Kind of why I took offense at your reaction, which seemed to go past "I disagree" to "you don't have the right to comment".

>>78915
>So I brought up the fact we already had an explanation as to why her patchwork biology does not necessarily behave that way
No, you outright said that it worked a specific way, which is actually contradictory to how it was explained! She doesn't have a hybrid biology, she has a patchwork biology everywhere; she only works properly because of the nanomachines helping her different bits talk to eachother. I expect her proportions are correct because she's a construct. Her shape is by design, not due to hybridization. She'd be shorter if that were the case, anyway.

>Kind of why I took offense at your reaction, which seemed to go past "I disagree" to "you don't have the right to comment".
I was clearly not saying that. Again, you really should stop answering questions yourself in the ITQ thread unless they have literally been answered already, and then I'd say all you need to do is refer the person asking to the relevant post. You certainly don't need to act like you know everything.

ITQ is not the place for arguments or (much) discussion. Check it out: >>78600

No point in anoning because I'm linking to it in the quest, but spoilered.

>>/quest/572971
I'm sorry twi(lightstormshi), but really? Fucking really? I was willing to put up with your silliness before, both here and in other quests, because it was only suggestive, but now you're just outright demanding porn at times where it is not only completely unnecessary, but also completely unfitting to the plotline. Yes, it's nice that you got your boyfriend to do some fanart, but after looking up the pair of you elsewhere I have had such distaste for the both of you that I (and others I've discussed with) would really prefer that you just go away and never post here again. Your suggestions are usually awful, ALWAYS sexual, and most of the time it seems like you're deliberately missing the point of the quests you suggest in, just to try and shoehorn porn in. Enough is enough. Calm your ovaries or use the door, please.

>>83233
Just curious, why not?

>>83236
your characters have a distinct unpleasantness to them.
or at least many people(myself included) feel that way,
especially in regards to their sexuality your character received as repulsively deviant and of questionable legality.

>>26458
So in other words, no raging bold dicks?
You thought this was going to say something else, didn't you?

>>26457
Every time I read a FlynnMerk quest, I feel like I need a long shower with some steel fucking wool. This latest one may be some kind of high fantasy but there's still the scuzziness of an amateur fetish porn comic underneath it, even if the writing wasn't awful. Who uses tildes in a high fantasy quest?

>>26461
>who uses tildes
Kaktus, Gnoll, Lagotrope, Larro...

There's use of tildes, and then there's overuse of tildes. You're probably talking about overuse of tildes.

>>26462

but those guys do it ironically™

>>26463
I really doubt that.

>>26462
I have to come in to defend my non-tilde honor; I'm pretty sure I haven't used tilde since coming to tgchan unless I was trying to type a '!' and missed. Or maybe a joke, I don't know.

Some decade ago I used an unreasonable amount of tildes, but I doubt that is what you are talking about here.

>>26465
Here is a single tilde.
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/423771.html#425115

MORE TILDES.
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/322665.html#324137
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/331383.html#331400
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/331383.html#331926
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/333617.html#334104
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/333617.html#334132
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/346599.html#350048
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/351734.html#351931
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/351734.html#352370
http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/351734.html#353598

Oh. I sure didn't remember these.

Not exactly overuse, but yes I have eaten my words about a decisive 'never have used tildes'.

>>26468
Yeah I thought it was fine.

>vendetta against punctuation
Is this a thing now? Are the hordes of the en dash adherents going to charge against the em dash faithful or something?

>>26470
No

I think it's ironic that people are freaking out over EadooQuest when we have the equally "disturbing" Date Quest. Y'know, where people are being murdered and said murders are being put on a website for people to get off on? I have no problem with either quest, but the double standard here is a little depressing. Also people can use whatever text in their quests they want, this should be common sense.

That one's pretty clearly TRYING to be as disturbing as possible, and also for a quest about serial killers it's got, y'know, taste and restraint. Whereas the biggest problem with Eadoo isn't just how creepy it is but how sloppy and ill-thought-out the creepiness is. Ever since FlynnMerk did that Yamato Cannon Earjob thing he's been like this. The pornshit gets in the way.

>>26473
>Yamato Cannon Earjob

I'm vaguely curious, but if I find out will I regret asking what you're referring to?

http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/252195.html#260423

>>26472

Datequest is fucking disgusting but nobody really talks about it so complaints don't happen as often.

>>26475
Eh. That was a moderate waste of time.

>>26476
What puts me off is how readily the suggesters start acting like they actually romanticize the serial-killer bit. The quest itself doesn't disgust me so much as the reaction.

Are you really taking the suggestions (and the quest) at face value?

>>26478

>b-b-b-b-but maybe it's a bait and switch!

The bait is still a rapey murder-themed quest.

>>26478
No. I fail to see how that makes it okay. If there were a fetish quest about consuming feces, for example, and all the suggestions acted like they also had a fetish for eating feces, would it stop being disgusting just because you knew they weren't serious?

>Y-you're taking my precious Quest at face value!

Nice double standard there. You're proving exactly what I'm talking about.

Here's a fun game, switch the genders of everyone in DateQuest and tell me how "tasteful" it is. You can like the quest all you want, but don't go crowing about how what's going on in it is super duper okay while what goes on in Flynn's quests are the worst shit possible.

Gonna sum myself up a bit since this has seriously gotten pointless and everyone else has moved on aside from us.

I have no problems with either Quest, but at the same time trying to convince me that in terms of "disturbing" shit EadooQuest is worse than DateQuest is pointless. They both have sick shit that go on in them, regardless of how blatant it is or not.

Again, I like both Quests, but don't pretend that one is morally higher than the other and try sprinkling bullshit reasons as to why all over it.

>>26481
Why don't we try to switch genders of those involved in EadooQuest?

>>26485

If you switched the genders in eeadoo quest nobody would give a shit.

If you switched the genders in datequest 80% of its fanbase would be ranting about how terrible it was instead.

>>26486
That's pretty much my point. I already find DateQuest to be pretty damn creepy, regardless of who is what gender.

i legitimately think crocs are fashionable change my view

>>26489
fash·ion·a·ble
ˈfaSH(ə)nəbəl/Submit
adjective
characteristic of, influenced by, or representing a current popular trend or style.

Crocs are widely hated, therefore they cannot be fashionable. If you personally think they look good I don't really care, that's your own business.

>>26461
>Every time I read a FlynnMerk quest, I feel like I need a long shower with some steel fucking wool.
Yes, that's how reading a FlynnMerk quest generally goes for anyone who doesn't actively suggest in them. He's been here for years so I'm not sure why that's a revelation.

I don't mind the porn. I like porn. I like people fucking.

It's the weirder shit that gets to me.

Someone should make a more vanilla porn quest with a compelling plot and deep characters.

>>26505
They did but it got abandoned. It was called Porn Quest.

>>26506
It had no plot, no characters, and despite the name, no porn. It hardly counts.

Is it wrong that most of FlynnMerk's quests feel like relatively normal jaunts through a large majority of the Internet? The writing could definitely improve, but it's not any more perverted than 1 minute on Google could find me.

As for a more vanilla porn quest, there's... Katherine? quest. Fractal's quest about a stripper. Not exactly porn, but strippers come close and I like the plot and characters.

>>26508
I loved Katherine Quest up until the ending. I'm not one for endings like that. Felt like a slap in the face after an otherwise good read.

Enemy Quest is kind of a vanilla porn quest.
It leaves a lot to the imagination but the goal is alien fucking.

>>26510
Yeah, plus good plot and great characters. Looks like that guy got what he wanted.

To stay on topic for the thread, though: <needlessly inflammatory and misinformed opinion>.

>>26511
<calm and well-articulated response calling the quoted a homosexual and a flaming bundle of twigs>

>>26507
Hey, buddy, just because you can't appreciate the depth and complexity of Porn Quest's characters and story doesn't mean they don't exist.

<NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING PLANKTON>

<eleven paragraphs of bacon metaphor>

<WALT JR. VOMITING>

When can we do away with this idea that quests are dominated by female leads? Here's a sample of quests on /quest/ right now where we play as men:
>>581741 (though the main character changes)
>>586038
>>570196
>>586024
>>555041
>>582991
>>585006
>>584397
>>562303
>>581560
>>580790 (sort of)
>>585667
>>541717 (maybe? hard to tell)
>>585464
>>561485 (again, hard to tell, but looks male)
>>583832
>>559265
>>573815 (multiple characters, started male)
>>560968

And those are just the quests on the first two pages that have leads that appear male. That's not even counting the ones that don't have defined leads. The idea that quests always have female protagonists or that /quest/ always chooses female characters is completely farcical. It's a years-old misconception. And even if it were true, what the hell's wrong with female protagonists?

>>26525
If you wanted those links to work across boards, you should have formatted them like

>>/quest/######

>>26526
Whoops. Here they are again:
>>/quest/581741 (though the main character changes)
>>/quest/586038
>>/quest/570196
>>/quest/586024
>>/quest/555041
>>/quest/582991
>>/quest/585006
>>/quest/584397
>>/quest/562303
>>/quest/581560
>>/quest/580790 (sort of)
>>/quest/585667
>>/quest/541717 (maybe? hard to tell)
>>/quest/585464
>>/quest/561485 (again, hard to tell, but looks male)
>>/quest/583832
>>/quest/559265
>>/quest/573815 (multiple characters, started male)
>>/quest/560968

>>26525
>what the hell's wrong with female protagonists?

It's 'cuz women should stay in the kitchen and make food and pop out children. They're not allowed to star in fiction, except as shallow trophies for the male protagonist to win over!

Duh.

To clarify my statement again, in my experience whenever tgchan is given a choice between male and female it will gravitate towards female. I know many protagonists are female. I have no objection to that. My issue is specifically that when tgchan can select the sex/gender it will generally pick a girl, and then people start getting creepy.

And if the Ass of Hat is reading this, I'd guess your posts get deleted often because you shitpost on a near-constant basis.

>>26529
Well, I don't mean to be insulting or patronizing or anything, but you should be aware if you aren't already that when you say things like "generally" you are probably the victim of confirmation bias:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Especially since you said 'generally,' which means I could gather pretty much as many character selection quests as I want where we picked male characters and it wouldn't disprove what you said unless I combed through every single character selection quest and compiled a ratio of male to female.

For my part, I only picked female in that quest because someone said 'lizardfolk or bust,' and I wanted to complete the joke by having a busty catfolk win.

In my experience, /quest/ will go either way depending on how it feels that day. There is certainly no shortage of male protagonists, but there is a definite negative effect on the attention your quest receives if its lead isn't a non-human female. And you can't stop /quest/ from being creepy. /quest/ is always creepy. That's why we say "Stay classy, /quest/."

>>26530
Fair enough.

>>26527

Just want to point out knifequests main character was female (rella) and unbound was the result where they alternate between male or female and species.

>>26533
I linked quests where /quest/ played as men. Neither of those quests violates that description. /quest/ plays as a man in all of them.

>>26530

He's not guilty of confirmation bias.

/quest/ consistently votes female for protagonists. That's just a fact.

Your stance isn't even based on any sort of observation, it's based entirely on being contrary and being happy to show off that you just read an article somewhere about cognitive bias.

>>26535
Nice belief perseverance, bro. Where's your data?

Many of the quests from the beginning of the /tg/ and tgchan quest era were female. It is not as prevalent anymore but I feel like a lot of people with Strong Opinions don't regard or look at current quests with all the newer blood making them and keep their focus on the "golden age" with rose tinted goggles & blinders on.

There are certainly a good number of female protagonists in quests. I think the person listing active quests has the right idea because if included abandoned & finished quests we'd drown in trying to list and/or compare.

I bet if the whole thing was opposite and an equally large majority of the quests had male protagonists, no one would say a word.

>>26546
You lose.

>>26547
I choose to believe I will not. It's not like we'd ever know.

>>26548
Are you saying you wouldn't say a word? From the bet you made, I'm guessing you yourself would.

>>26540

current quests on the board that had character generation:

Eeadoo - voted female (the author slapped a dick on because that's his kink which is fine, but female won the vote)

Dragon's Trial - voted female

Shackles - voted male

Rust - voted male

Llackuf Arena - voted female for first character (counting as half)

Retcon - no character creation, but exclusively female crew selected

Quest for the First Door - started with male team

Legends of Tharsia - no votes for sex, male selected (null)

Unnatural Selection - voted female

Necroquest - Neither

Gaslight's - Female Mummy selected

The Job - Male Team

Godsucker - Female

Dreams and Decay - Female

Cutebold Slaughter Fest - Female picked first, but blind (wash)

Flesh Tenants - Female

A.W.O.L. - male (presumably based off name chosen, not explicitly called out, still counts)

A Doll's Circus - Female vote, 'neither' mixed in due to author preference

Necro's Storytime - Bed chosen

Questing Beast doesn't count because only females were allowed

Lawyer Dog Is Right For Once: Olympic Challenge - Vidya Goat was the first chosen (note, the only team chosen so far to not be unisex!, half a point)

CtL Quest: Behind a Broken Mirror - Female

Dreams of Heroism - Split Vote, later settled to male via name (half point)

11 female, 5 and a half male, 2 neither. That's pretty consistent!

>>26545

This was specifically as regards voting for character creation, not for overall protagonists (which are a much more even split)

>>26550
>Rust - voted male
It should be noted that we only voted male in Rust because we had already chosen a female character three times in a row. If there were more race options I can almost 100% guarantee that we would have chosen another female character.

>>26549
Nah, not really. I'm reacting on the argument, not the issue. If there were no argument I wouldn't even care.

Also worth noting that the argument was started over this post:

"Can tgchan play as a male for once?"

>>26553
And it's morphed to "does TGChan stastistically choose female more than male, using a sample of active quests that provide a choice of protagonist gender?".

>>26556
The argument wasn't even that /quest/ statistically chooses female more often (also, according to that sample it's only about 60% of the time, not a significant bias), it was this:

>The idea that quests always have female protagonists or that /quest/ always chooses female characters is completely farcical. It's a years-old misconception.

I think that assertion stands up to the data. Sure, there's a preference for female characters, but it's not even close to always choosing them. Therefore, I cordially invite >>26535 to consume feces.

>>26558

>consistently means always

>twice as likely recently, considerably more likely if you take archived posts into account

Yeah, no. You're wrong. Nice try, though. /quest/ consistently votes female.

Lilac had a character generation, but it was before the quest thread started.
1 Character was automatic.
2 female
1 male
1 neither.

Vidya Goat and Punchy Panda are the only ones hinted at to being female in LDIRFO:OC. So yeah it's mostly unisex.

>>26559
>consistently
>Definitions
>from Wiktionary, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License
> adv. In a consistent manner.
> adv. constantly; always.
>https://www.wordnik.com/words/consistently

>consistent
>1
>archaic : possessing firmness or coherence
>2
>a : marked by harmony, regularity, or steady continuity : free from variation or contradiction <a consistent style in painting>
>b : marked by agreement : compatible —usually used with with <statements not consistent with the truth>
>c : showing steady conformity to character, profession, belief, or custom <a consistent patriot>
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consistent

Not only are you wrong but you don't even know what your own words mean! 60% is not consistent, or even twice as likely. (see, when something is twice as likely, you can divide by 2 to get the other %... and 60% and 30% don't add up to 100%!) Actually, as a matter of fact, there is no specified cutoff point for 'consistent,' because it doesn't refer to any specific amount, just a feeling. And feelings aren't really the best thing to cite for your argument.

Anyway, none of that is particularly relevant, because even with the definitions of words aside, you're still wrong (which is, frankly, pretty thoroughly wrong) because the argument was never that /quest/ "consistently" voted for women. I'm not going to let you move the goalposts back that far. Here's the original contested statement:

>>/quest/586162
>Can tgchan play as a male for once?
Yes, they do it all the time. Boom. Argument over. You're wrong.

Here's where character generation was brought up, besides the fact that this stemmed from a quest that included it:
>>26525
>The idea that quests always have female protagonists or that /quest/ always chooses female characters is completely farcical.

Let's break down the two claims in that statement:
>The idea that quests always have female characters [is completely farcical.]
Verdict: 100% Demonstrably True. If you disagree, you're wrong, sorry.
>[The idea] that /quest/ always chooses female characters is completely farcical.
This is also clearly true because via our random sample they pick male characters or neither 40% of the time. You're still wrong.

So that seems like a pretty thorough explanation of what the argument is, so now you have absolutely no excuse to claim that it's about quest "consistently voting" for female protagonists. That is a statement that means nothing, even if it weren't miles away from what the actual claim was. Seriously, I know you'd like to be right so you can be smug, but stop strawmanning and man up to the fact that in this instance, you hopped on the wrong side of the argument.

>>26562

>always

Of course the idea that /quest/ always chooses female is farcical. So?

>I'm not going to let you move the goalposts back that far. Here's the original contested statement:

let's actually look at the statement that led to your argument of confirmation bias, which is what I jumped in on:

>My issue is specifically that when tgchan can select the sex/gender it will generally pick a girl,

Which is, in fact, generally true!

In fact, I was being incredibly generous with counting many of the male 'selections,' as there was no voting involved in most of them (just the first suggestion thrown out or the first x suggestions thrown out) and many of the ones that were votes were specifically, as mentioned for Rust, a result of 'hey let's play a guy for once!'

So go on, keep talking about moving the goalposts while you haul ass across the field with your own. I give absolutely 0 shits about what you were arguing about before that.

Oh, and since you want to try to harp on 'hurr durr it's not twice as much,' I'll just point out that by YOUR OWN ADMISSION you were talking about:

>Can tgchan play as a male for once?

Which, with the results given, tgchan chooses 'not a male' more than twice as often as often as choosing male, even accounting for the quests in which no community vote took place. If you strike those, it's over 6 times as often.

>>26563
>>26564
>Of course the idea that /quest/ always chooses female is farcical. So?
So... that was the argument you came here to shitpost on.

So I guess we're done here.

No, the argument I came to cleanly disprove (which I did) was that 'quest generally chooses female and acts weird about the female characters' wasn't confirmation bias.

Given that you've had to resort to moving the goalpost and textbook strawmaning (defining for yourself what I was arguing about despite what I was talking about being explicitly stating and arguing against that, which actually IS strawman arguing unlike 90% of claims of it on the internet), I suppose I can agree that we are, in fact, done here.

>>26567
>No, the argument I came to cleanly disprove (which I did) was that 'quest generally chooses female and acts weird about the female characters' wasn't confirmation bias.
>>26535
>/quest/ consistently votes female for protagonists. That's just a fact.
>consistently

60-75% of the time certainly covers 'generally', but is a far cry from 'consistently'. 'Acts weird about female characters' hasn't come into it yet until you bought it up, so go gather data to back up your assertion.

>>26569

No, it's a consistent pattern. Did you know that words have multiple definitions? Surely you do, because you copied multiple definitions when you looked up the word! You just chose to only bold the one that you could use to try to discredit a post that you knew was otherwise suffocating you with truth.

Also,

>Acts weird about female characters' hasn't come into it yet until you bought it up,

See >>26529

>My issue is specifically that when tgchan can select the sex/gender it will generally pick a girl, and then people start getting creepy.

Are you sure you are actually literate?

>inb4 trying to deflect this by saying 'but he said CREEPY not WEIRD they're different words hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr'

Flynnmerk fills the gap of "deep emotional sexual quest" in the tgchan community, and Flynnmerk does a "good enough" job of this.

Therefore, Flynnmerk must stay forever, lest some shitty person take his spot and ruin everything screaming "my questing is so deep WORSHIP ME PEONS boohoo i'm so emo"

That future is more dreadful than tgchan running out of money.
who hosts tgchan.com? I am forever broke but appreciate appreciating people worth appreciating.

>>26587
Enemy Quest fills that same gap and it's a shit ton better.

>>26587
>>26589
They both suck. But at least Enemy Quest isn't creepy as all hell, so I guess I'll have to give it that.

>>26591
Out of curiosity, why do you think Enemy Quest sucks? Do you not like the genre as a whole or what?

>>26592
To be honest it could probably be good maybe, I hear a lot of good stuff of it, but I just can't get past the art style that is to me personally unappealing.

>>26593
I'm the author of enemy quest and that is a 100 percent valid criticism

>>26593
Fair enough. Like Brom said, that's valid. If you ever get really bored and curious, I suppose you could try copy+pasting the text somewhere else if someone hasn't already done that?

Enemy quest fills the "Dating Game Quest" gap.
There's always been at least one of those.

>>85222
you completely missed the point

>>87086
you completely missed chest day. we moved on to ass day like a month ago

>>87087
There's no reason people can't resume chest day.