>>124359
So they betray their host when a better candidate is near.

>>124360
As I said, that was a new idea based on this discussion. It wouldn't really work though, if they were known to jump at the chance to kill their hosts, even a demon wouldn't want one sticking around. They are meant to be more symbiotic than parasitic.

I’m mainly asking these sort of questions since Gallows is a demonologist in the reboot.
For instance, since the Displacer beasts went after mandrakes but Peaches is fine with both fruit and meat, they seem to be omnivores and quite willing to accept both plants and animals given they were probably attacking us to eat us.
If Peaches is any indication of their learning ability they also seem to be really good at following and figuring out instructions which makes sense and is common for pack animals.
>>124364
Well, many parasite have anaesthetic or numbing properties in their bite, so it’s possible they sneak up on sleeping creatures and remove and replace their appendages before they wake up.
And yeah, even non-sapient creatures would probably stop trusting ones that betrayed them after a few generations.

Eastwood's not a character I made, a suggestor named Darkly posted two pictures of him and I've decided to use him. I only say this because I think someone's claimed him of being a character I've made twice now.

>>124450
Sorry, I'm a dumbass.

Eastwood sounds like a character that would totally 360 nonscope our ass out of the tournament. I wonder what every character would play as in any fps, like TF2.

Troy would totally play as spy.

>>124453
Vol would probably be medic with his shielding and healing. I think Roland might be soldier, with rocket jumping being kind of like how he moves with barriers. Issei would also be spy, for obvious reasons.

>>124457
Would say that Roland would be a demoknight that rocket-jumps around and dashes against people with the shield and also main pyro due flamethrower. Ada would play as heavy due "big gun knowledge" or as a engineer.

Uma and Gya didn't appear yet but I bet Uma would play as a sniper and Gya as a scout.

Peaches probally doesn't know how to play due being a giant cat thing but oh well, would totally main spy and be the damn best around.

"That was a facestab"
"Meow"
"Don't you dare meow at me ever again, pls server kick peaches021"

>>124458
Wait, so is Peaches a hound or a feline, i am still confused about that.

Also, Heretic should make a drawing of this.

>>124461
>giant cat thing

>>124461
>>124463
Belive me, it's a giant cat thing. There's also a giant dog thing and they hate each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacer_beast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_dog

Ah yes, my favorite show, Displacer Blink, it's like catdog but way more violent for your usual kid.

>>124464
That’s according to D&D lore.

We want to know what it is according to Heretic’s D3 lore.

>>124461
>>124467
I'll throw my two cents into this. if we look at it realistically, demons and felines/canines are not related at all. If evolution is a thing in this story, demons in general would have branched off very early on, with the sky god at the top of the tree, and Athmor likely directly descended from him. With all demons branching off, they are nowhere near cats or dogs in the tree.

If it's more of a creation type of deal, the Displacer Beast may have appeared just as soon as Athmor died, which again, makes it completely independent from cats or dogs.

In short, Displacer Beasts are probably related to Displacer Beasts. They may have things in common with other animals (and plants with those fly trap like things), but that is probably a coincidence. Although, since the Aether seems kind of like an afterlife, maybe some spirits fed off of his corpse and turned into the early demons. Maybe some cats and dogs that were sent to hell were effected by his power. They could also be some sort of crossbreed. We know nothing about how demons breed. Are some different demons similar enough to breed? Can most interbreed (unlikely)? Can none interbreed?

So many questions, some we may never get the answers to. Unless... we go to the aether. Not any time soon, we're not ready for that big of an undertaking. But, there is no better place for a skilled and dedicated demonologist. I'm kind of hoping we go there at some point. It would certainly be interesting to study the culture of demon societies.

Hard Reptilian With No Extremities 2018/07/24(Tue)18:27 No. 124472 ID: eeb7d9
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So much knowledge...

Displacer Beasts kinda look like cats but they also kinda look like dogs. They act more feline than canine though.

>>124470
I think Roland would be more interested in seeing if he can speak with his dad.

Since his father said, “beyond the grave somewhere in the Aether I'll be watching over you.” So it would make sense that Roland would believe his father is in the Aether and he could possibly be able to speak with him again.

>>124473
And there’s our answer.

How many cat memes we can make with peaches?

>>124476
Yeah, probably. But it's a big place, I doubt we'd find him by just randomly walking around. We'd probably need to ask demons who understand the Aether's geography. But that place is probably so full of information, even if we are almost single minded in finding him we'll probably learn quite a bit just through random encounters with aggressive demons.

Even if we do find our father, we don't have to leave immediately after our reunion. We should get as much as we can out of a trip to that place.

Displacer Beasts are traditionally mutant panthers made by wizards.

Gallows is Pyro. Vol is his pocket medic.

>>124479
But with Roland being the main character and events beyond his control are always forced upon him, I think running into his father would be more likely than you’d think.

Especially if it’s a plot related event that requires him to find his father for some reason!

>>124484
I'm almost certain it will happen, I just don't think it will stop us from working on our journal.

>>124486
Who said anything about stopping? We’ll be multitasking the journal and looking for dad!

>>124473
So they’re like hyenas where they look like felines that picked up some canine traits?

Speaking of displacer beasts. Was that group that attacked us after the mandrakes for the food or their healing properties?
They seemed kind of suicidally reckless for a normal animal, so I’ve just been assuming they were starving or very sick, especially since both those fit Peaches warming up to us when we fed him healing food. I mean, that was normal for lacerflies because colonial creatures don’t care about the individual and we’d wandered into their hive.
And you haven’t mentioned demons being largely unkillable in the reboot like they were in the original, so I’ve been assuming they can be killed.

And where those three a parent and their two kids, or a female and her two mates?

>>124498
Sick and hungry, probably something along the lines of gut parasites or some other illness. displacer beasts can safely eat Mandrakes since they can press their ears flat to their head well enough to not be hurt by their scream. The three displacer beasts were two males and a female. Female displacer beasts grow much larger and more aggressive to be able to survive while pregnant with cubs and to protect them after birth, occasionally from their mate who may or may not eat the young from time to time.

Hey just saying that I love Slight Return. The new focus for both the character and the fighting is really well done and interesting.

>>124499
Now that I think about it, Roland just assumed Peaches’ gender and never bothered to actually check.

With this talk about female Displacer Beasts being bigger, I’m kinda hoping that Peaches turns out to actually be a female. Then we’d be riding on the back of a Displacer Beast that’s about the size of the really big one that we ended up killing and dissecting!

>>124507
But how long would that take? Demons don't die from old age, so it potentially could take a human lifetime before a female could become that big.

>>124510
Maybe it involves demon evolution?

Heretic said that demons could still evolve in Slight Return, but it would work differently than it did in the original.

Maybe if we keep training Peaches, he/she could evolve to that size?

It's just sexual dimorphism for the Displacer Beasts: females are bigger and more aggressive than males. Peaches is male, he isn't going to grow or gain qualities that a female would exhibit. Sure he might get a little bigger as he get's older but that's about it.

>>124515
>Peaches is male
He is? I thought that was just Roland not wanting to check Peaches’ gender because he would’ve been too embarrassed to do that.

But if you say Peaches is a male, then he’s a male.

The wisp really looks like Sex pistols and reminds of that old show, slugterra, he's very charismatic, would love to see him again.

"Nyoooooooooooooom"

>>124527
I was thinking of Slugterra when I made him. Also a little bit Sex Pistols and Emperor

So, something I probably should have asked earlier.
Since we’re playing a demonologist, how much, well not biological sense because magic, I suppose either ecological or evolutionary sense should we expect the demons to make.
For instance, flame manipulating demons cooking their food, since even animals like cooked food and it’s easier to digest. (I actually thought about this before I read Gwyn’s arm eating meat, and turns out you can use the heat from electricity to flash-cook things.)
Or Hobgoblins/Goblins being native to an area where their stretchy limbs are more advantageous, like forests or caves instead of flatlands.

How sturdy is Vol's fiddle? Could he use it as a club in a pinch?

>>124768
Yes, Vol can club things with his Violin

Lammar 2018/08/11(Sat)12:41 No. 124772 ID: 290936
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>>124769
This is Vol's true potential? Can someone stop this demon?

>>124769
Now I can’t stop thinking of Vol doing this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=010aaw1Ajo0 ! XD

>>124772
>>124773
Heretic, PLEASE, make it happen.

>>124772
I wonder if Vol could remake his bow so it has a spear point on it, and maybe a thin blade on the stick, opposite side of the hair. Truly, the violin is an all purpose weapon. May the High Demons come to fear it.

I also just realized, Vol and Eto are probably both experts in using a bow.

Quick question: does anybody mind when I describe something in the text of an update that isn't shown in the image; like how Vol being grabbed by Naos is written but not shown?

>>124797
Nah, we don’t mind. It’s a common thing that happens a lot in quests.

>>124797
Nah, drawing too much could lead to burnout. We don't need everything to be explicitly shown, so just draw what you want to.

>>124797
Nay, can survive with it pretty damn well. Doesn't need to have everything.

>>124797
Nah, mate, go easy on the pencil.

I've been trying to find a violin cover for Thé à la Menthe. All I can find are guitar, drum, and accordion for some reason. The origional melody uses a oud.

Hey Heretic, that healing bathtub looks familiar, did you got the idea from a movie?

>>124927
I wasn't thinking of any particular movie when I did it. Then I realized it was like that one part in Wanted if that's what you mean.

>>124928
Really? That is a big coincidence.

>>124931
I'm sure plenty of media has big healing vats people dip in to not die.

>>124932
That's true, there are a lot of games and films where they use some kind container with healing liquid in it. Star Wars is a fine example. But the bath was actually very similar, so i thought that you took inspiration on that movie.
Given that this kind of tecnology is so efective, i guess the old world was really advanced before the demons arrived. What kind of world was it?

>>124938
Could be some kind of demonic magic rather than tech.

Hey, now that I noticed, we can contract demons as body guards and helpers in our usual scavanging, sounds like a good ideia.

>>124944
Maybe, but it depends on how much they'll cost, and how useful we think they might be to us. We need to spend our money wisely.

Another thing I just realized. If Naos just paid Eto for the tournament, that means he isn't the source of Naos' wind magic. Did he not want to bring his demon ally with him (perhaps for fear of it being to recognizable/bloodthirsty/not interested in tournaments)? Or is he perhaps a saint? Or just something else entirely?

>>124967
Well, if he knows Troy's former boss, it might be that he is a prophet, that wind didn't look like a pagan power.

So, since Troy can teleport through siblings, that actually has a lot of benefit for plants.
Mainly because tons of plants reproduce through various types of cloning, and there can be massive clonal colonies.
And if the Quest world is like ours in terms of crops, where lots of them are grown from cuttings like many apple varieties, seedless plants, etc, he can pretty much freely teleport within a farm or orchard.
Even if they’re not, most farmers are going to grow seeds from pervious crops, so a lot of the plants are going to be close relatives anyway.

We could use bananas to teleport around considering this type of logic. Let's weaponize bananas now.

>>125077
Incorrect. The object has to be big enough for Troy to actually go through. A banana is too small for Troy to go through, however he can still send smaller objects, like bullets, through them.

>>125082
Giant bananas then.

>>125083
I got it. Fucking cucumbers.

>>125087
Damn right, Troy would give home grown cucumbers to people and throw them at animals.

Anonymous 2018/08/27(Mon)00:05 No. 125092 ID: d3602f
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>>125087
I'm a poor artist, but I felt someone had to draw this.

I fucking love this community.

>>125092
This one is even better!

I'm not the type of person to say this but Hazel and Ada's love options must end. There's only one waifu and it is Athmor's.

Time to go to Aether and date the first demon, babe!

Originally Ada become the natural love interest because she was a adorably quirk shop owner whom we visited more often than anyone else. She sold and bought an ample variety of magical items, and although her stock was limited it would be difficult to encounter what she was offering elsewhere or find someone also to sell the many magical trinkets we came across, making her the most important vendor. It was inevitable that her role in the story would be expanded.
Because of the abrupt interruption of the story we naturally want the characters dynamics to get back to what they were before, specially in the case of Ada who's arc was left unfinished.

I hate to say it, but with the focus on research the book seller make a lot more sense in central role as a love interest than the electronic merchant, specially now that her shop is established as the kind of knowledge hub that occasionally come across demon lore.
A pity, this version of Ada is quirkier than ever and her design is improved (centaurs disturb me). Ada have the natural advantage because we assume she is still more or less the same character we knew. So far Hazel seem calm and quiet, admittedly she didn't got time for any development, but that doesn't sound like a good match for a risk taker like Gallows.

You are cruel Heretic. I just wanted to see the continuation of the romance previously established. Even though the current characters haven't gone through the original events I can't avoid feeling like this is a betray.

>>125771
I mean there's nothing stopping you from being involved with Hazel platonically to get to all that good knowledge she's got in her library. You don't have to be romantically involved with her, and to be honest I wasn't trying to make a second option for romance on purpose. I just liked "big monster running little library" and sort of forgot tg is drawn to the monster women. Plenty of time to hang out with Ada, this Quest is far from over...until I reboot it 3 more times

Lammar 2018/10/02(Tue)17:01 No. 125774 ID: 733bd9
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In unrelated notes with the sun notice, Aether Men steals someone else sun, see how the Lunar Church reacts!

>>125772
>until I reboot it 3 more times
Please don't.

>>125774
Are you trying to kill me? I almost lose a lung.

>>125772
My fear is that the love interest could end up been a side character we will only meet to fulfill a sense of obligation instead of a recurring natural encounter in the story.
This isn't a romance so the priorities shouldn't be relationships, however there isn't much point in having a love interest if she isn't relevant to the narrative. It would be a waste if one side character gained relevance for continuous interactions while the love interest meetings become interruptions from the plot.

If you are not planing to include porn I don't care what the love interest is, just their role in the narrative. For example: Vol would be an effective love interest, although it would be a unnecessary connection since the friendship and familiarity fulfill a similar dynamic. Assuming Troy will develop an interaction with Gallows similar to their original counterparts he would be an excellent candidate.

...If you are planing to include porn I would like to ask for more options.

Meanwhile of the porn talk, I feel I or someone should make a google doc talking about all the demons we did meet. It would be a nice and fast way to remember and check their powers plus weakness with fast acess. Anyone against the ideia?

>>125783
I was thinking of doing the same thing, either just putting expanded journal entries in the discord or in some other website that would be appropriate for it. Does anyone now a good place to pile expanded journal entries so everyone can see them.

>>125785
>discord
I meant disthread, I don't have a discord for this.

>>125777
I mean, if you become interested in a character enough to keep going back to them I'll make them plot relevant. Original Ada wasn't plot relevant in the slightest until you guys kept going back to her
and then she helped you gain the alignment of an entire civilization of spider people. Any character will be worked in for as much as you guys care, if you guys kept going to Mordecai I'd do my best to make him relevant to reward the interest in him. Basically, I feel like you oughta just hang with who you want because every character has potential to be important later.

I just realized that we haven’t introduced Troy to Peaches yet! Sure, Troy knows we captured a Displacer Beast, but he doesn’t know what we did with it.

I can’t wait to see the look on Troy’s face when we turn invisible and then pop up right next to him! XD

Well, since we are playing as Gallows in some extent (and any other character we are using at the time), we can influence how he perceives the world arond him. If we show intrest in a certan character, so will Gallows, again, to an certan extent, like it happened in the first quest with Ada. This is how i see it at least.

GUYS, i got this crazy idea. Ok, what if, listen, WHAT if, we make Vol date Hazel and we stay with Ada?

>>125820
I mean, it's a cool ideia but i'm not sure about throwing ol' brother Vol in the matchmaking cyclone. Would find simpler of just befriending Hazel like a normal person as a effective way.

>>125820
That’s not going to work because Vol already broke the 4th wall and directly told us right here: >>/questarch/890446 , “Ehhh. I had a thing wit a gal five times my size before. I won't get inta details, but I think it's safe to say I like my gals a bit more ME sized. Them horns are pretty cute though not gonna lie.”

>>125824
Ah... I forgot.
>>125822
Yeah, this would work too.

>>125787
Actually, it might be a good idea to see him again if we get more demon cadavers. He might have methods of figuring out what organs do what. Kind of like how some demons have fake eyes. Maybe he'd be able to see if they have a purpose, or get an idea on just how they find their way without seeing.

I've noticed that Caesura has refractive properties. Could it be used as a lens to focus light into a laser?

>>125857
Like a crystal? We should try that later, yes.

>>125857
No. Lasers don't work like that. Lasers are highly amplified single-direction light, not focused omnidirectional light. The method of amplification varies depending on the size of the laser and what it's used for.
It could be used to focus light into a point, though, like a magnifying glass. Not gonna serve much point aside from starting small fires though.

>>125861
Not a crystal, a lens. Refraction depends on several factors, but focusing light from a single source requires a convex lens. I'll make a simple diagram in a bit.

Actually, maybe two lenses, or a really gross cone.

This could be done with a single lens, but it would need to be a meniscus lens thick enough for the focal point to be inside it. That would be more of a prism than a lens, though.

Hard Reptilian With No Extremities 2018/10/06(Sat)16:13 No. 125870 ID: eeb7d9
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>>125868
If we could pull this off somehow, it would be great, at least just something little.

>>125868
This would definitely require a certain level of shape control, and I'm not sure if Caesura has the proper refractive abilities. But if we are able to control our shield in such a way, we'll need to create a special gun for housing the smaller lens and to make a tunnel for the light.

Usually to create a laser of any serious strength, we would need a huge lens, and this runs into issues of practicality of carrying such a huge thing, and the expense of creating it in the first place. The enemy could also easily break it. But in the case of Caesura, we can make it wherever we want for free.

>>125872
That's why it should be outside focusing the sunlight. Space and foundations aren't factors when making a floating disc.

Designing a gun for the smaller lens would be impossible, though. The amount of energy converging in it would make any material melt after a few seconds of exposure. The lens would also need to have its shape adjusted depending on the angle.

The weather and time of day also restrict when it could be used. Too little sunlight would make the death ray more of a laser pointer.

The ideal shape would look sort of like an inkwell, with a convex bottom facing the sun, and a concave mouth pointed at the target.

>>125868
No. For a full explanation, check this out: https://what-if.xkcd.com/145/

>>125874
Oh, neat. So the target will need to be in the focal point of a single lens, or under a giant dome.

Heretic 2018/10/23(Tue)18:15 No. 126156 ID: a451fc
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Rolands got the halloween spirit

Heretic 2018/10/23(Tue)20:01 No. 126159 ID: a451fc
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The Flesh Wall's journal page.

Should I post the other demon pages with more info in this disthread? Or should I make a new one all together? This ones getting pretty full isn't it? And I still feel like it's attached to the original D3 more than this one.

>>126156
Mummy skeleton cyborg assassin? Didn't peg him for the type who can't decide on a single costume.
>>126159
Yeah, that might be a good idea.

Heretic 2018/10/23(Tue)21:48 No. 126161 ID: a451fc
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>>126160
He's Hangedman from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Should've put the name of what he was here too otherwise it kinda doesn't make sense.

>>126159
Yeah, it might be time to make a new disthread.

>>126161
Rad

>>126159
Yeap, make a new thread for that, it will get kinda messy if you don't.

>>126156
That is a nasty Stand!

Anybody know how Heretic's doing?

>>133770
They've been posting imps on their twitter, and they did briefly pop in the discord to briefly talk about quests