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First of all, I'm not the person you called an autistic sociopath, I just think you are either really confused, or trolling. I'm only going to address the sympathy argument. Your other points fail to understand what I was saying entirely, such as the godawful strawman about the Aradia murder.
Secondly, this obviously is some kind of definitional argument.
>you seem to think that sympathizing with someone means believing that everything they do is morally correct.
I guess you are an autistic sociopath because you obviously don't know what the word means.
The more technical definition distinguishes Sympathy from empathy. Empathy is the simple ability to share emotions with fellow creatures - i.e. seeing a sad person makes you a little sad. Sympathy is Empathic Concern - you feel sad because the other person is sad, and desire to see them get better - concern for their state.
So, once again, you're a pedantic anus. This time, you are a wrong pedantic anus.
It has nothing to do with approving of someone's actions, true- it is sharing the emotions or feelings of another person, and the wish that they not feel bad when they are doing so. This is how I was using it. If you feel bad when she 'feels bad' in the context of the fiction, or are happy when she is 'happy,' then you are empathizing with her. If you feel bad when she feels bad, and then wish she wasn't feeling bad, that is sympathy.
If, instead, you don't care or are happy when bad things happen to her, you are not.
You originally said:
>Her motivations are understandable, and she is a character with whom it is possible to sympathize.
Somehow, this morphed into 'anyone who does not sympathize with her is an autistic sociopath'
Autistics fail to properly understand the emotions of everyone and sociopaths have no capacity or a limited capacity for empathy.
No one sympathizes with everyone in the world, and failing to sympathize with a single other person is not indicative of a developmental disorder or a mental disease. Normal people don't sympathize with every people even when they do understand the other person's motivations or beliefs.
A simple thought about the 'bad guy' getting what is coming to him in the final scene of the movie is the normal and natural response to seeing the person that you are coached to find abhorrent getting their just desserts. It certainly isn't indicative of a diseased mind.
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