4/13/11 is here. The most we have for the moment is a dead cat. ;_;

I find it an amusing coincidence that my birthday is 13 of April.

Though it isn't THAT amusing...

>>14441
The day isn't over yet...

she isn't dead until there's a dead symbol over her moveless corpse.
Hell, she isn't even KO'd, she's probably just slowly dying in pain as Terezi just stands there a watches.

She looks pretty dead to me, and Terezi sure seems to think she's dead. And there wouldn't be much point in her not being dead.

>>14450
There's a point because she's devolved into a Schrodinger's joke.

>>14451
She was never anything more than a joke, just like Equius.

>>14454
>just like every single troll
ftfy

>>14454
First she was a joke about cat waifu roleplayers or whatever, the nature of her joke has changed since she can't roleplay anymore on account of being in a horrible state of between being alive and dead.

>>14455
>just like all of Homestuck
ftfy

Well fuck me and call me Shirley. That was the best flash yet.

>>14461
ಠ_ಠ

Bob 2011/04/14(Thu)10:40 No. 14465 ID: 6ba8b3
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Well it has been over 5000 comics/flashes and nearing the six. So it's no suprise that not everything goes according to plan. Pretty good.

Bob 2011/04/14(Thu)11:48 No. 14466 ID: 2eac65
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...and we have impact.

>Homestuck Thread 2
>Insert Disc 2

How appropriately meta. I feel special now!

Well, that was an anticlimax. Some neat character development, but it was the sort of thing that would pass for an everyday update. Not the sort of epic climax that usually happens on 413, despite the buildup with Rose vs. Jack and the Aimless Renegade's bombs.

Of course, that's sort of unavoidable, with Hussie's moving to a new house and all.

>>14466

>Not the sort of epic climax that usually happens on 413

You mean that happened once on 413, right?

Don't worry, I've got your epic climax here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMcEBX74AWE

>>14468

this scared me, big time

Bob 2011/04/14(Thu)13:44 No. 14470 ID: 1963d1
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>>14456
>>14454
>>14451
>>14450
>>14449

She is not deads. She just sleeps in some bloods.

>>14468
Someone even paid 60$ to make an ad linking to this on the front page as Disc 2. The price has skyrocketed to 100$ now.

Bob 2011/04/15(Fri)00:45 No. 14479 ID: ba1062
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Ah, ambient music!

>>14479
Combine the songs!

Heat/Clockwork
Shade/Wind
Light/Rain
Frost/Frogs

DO IT FOR SCIENCE

Bob 2011/04/15(Fri)09:01 No. 14481 ID: 5d54a5
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>>14480
>Frost/Frogs

Hmm... This doesn't sound right.

Before anyone goes mad with worry we already know Terezi survives past the critical moment to post on the memo.

dammit terezi, stop being so black rom over vriska, we know you hate her but jesus.

So... I guess Eddie Morton is Lord English?

At this point, I'm thinking Lord English is Lord English. His own character.
It's the least and most disappointing reveal at the same time.

I think that Lord English is, using a stupid trope, the Giant Space Flea From Nowhere in Homestuck. Just like in many jRPGs, it's the final enemy that reveals his form only when the main villain has been defeated. And just like in those jRPGs, his presence in the story is anecdotical, other than giving the heroes a last enemy to fight.

>>14666
Nah. To be a true Giant Space Flea, there shouldn't be even hints of LE's existence until he shows up.

>>14666
>anecdotical
Dictionary redirects to "Anecdotal"
>1. also an·ec·dot·ic (-dtk) or an·ec·dot·i·cal (--kl) Of, characterized by, or full of anecdotes.
>2. Based on casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis:

Are you sure you didn't mean "incidental"?

Probably 'ancillary.'

Though really Lord English is way, WAY more relevant than most jRPG out-of-nowhere bosses like Zeromus and Necron.

I suddenly understand...nothing

>>14749
You were actually expecting to understand anything?
This is Homestuck, not understanding something about it is basically a trademark.

yay disk 2, imagine my excitement of extra clickery

terezi, why are you so dumb?

>>14779
Because plot demands that every troll die.

Oh dammit, I knew this would happen.

Bob 2011/05/04(Wed)23:25 No. 15043 ID: 0c9433
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Confirmed in newest update: Karkat's ancestor (and surprisingly Tavros' too) is a badass

A very dead badass.

But still

>>15043
...where'd you get that image from? I don't see if in any recent update. Also what the hell's with these artifacted gifs?

>>15046
>Also what the hell's with these artifacted gifs?
We're playing on a cratched CD, remember?

Didn't the "Karkat was a revolutionary" thing originate from /co/?

>>15043
Wait, was this hidden inside the .gif errors? Or just inside the purple prose?

>>15056

Karkat's 'ancestor' was probably a human who ended up in Alternia due to shenanigans.

tavros ancestor, dem horns. also rufio!

>>15060
His army thus inspired would spearhead a major re8ellion. Surely one at least on the scale of the sectarian revolt crushed 8y the High8loods, who thereafter for8ade its mention, or any invoc8tion of the heretical sym69ls at all, even in private journals.

>Heretical sym69ls

>sym69ls

>69

It's not all that hidden :V

>>15043
He totally looks like Simon from Gurren Lagann, and that's awesome (just saiyan).

Also, I'm guessing it's fan-art.

I'm willing to bet that theres something extremely important about Kakarat's red blood...
mainly as it's apparently special... and the first color in the rainbow... and most humanlike...
and other things.

>>15081
It's special because anyone who had the color was apparently killed off for being a rebel. It's shameful to karkat for that reason, most likely.

>>15199

>It's special because anyone who had the color was apparently killed off for being a rebel.

Actually, that was the sym69ls, not necessarily blood color.

Glitches

Glitches everywhere

>>15286
And, for some reason, they rule. They are really well used

Bob 2011/05/15(Sun)00:14 No. 15289 ID: 0d7a83
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Looks like someone needs one of these badboys.

>>15287
Shit is getting so real

THe universe is breaking

or at least that is the feel I get here

>>15287
I respectfully disagree. I hate them.

>>15287
Shit is getting so real

THe universe is breaking

or at least that is the feel I get here

Bob 2011/05/15(Sun)06:20 No. 15297 ID: 2eac65
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I just realized something.

Vriska wants to fight Jack, but Terezi wants her to leave the decision up to chance. Vriska can manipulate luck to ensure herself the best possible outcome to Terezi's coin flip... but which outcome is really the best? That depends on whether she's actually strong enough to defeat him or not.

If Vriska can beat Jack, then the best outcome would be "go". She will go out and fight Jack, win, and save the trolls. If it had landed on "stay", she would have wasted time and risked her life and the lives of her friends when she could have saved them.

If Vriska can't beat Jack, then the best outcome would be "stay". She'll avoid a fight she couldn't have won until she and her friends can come up with a better solution. If it had landed on "go", she would have wasted her live in a futile struggle and possibly destroyed the last hope her friends have.

That's the true purpose of Terezi's challenge: to prove whether Vriska's confidence is justified or not by revealing which option will really be the "luckiest" for her.

>>15297
immediate realization I had.
So, how long until our human players are back on the scene? They have a scratch to escape... Which I have a feeling will bring a certain foe to existence...

>>15297
If allowed to continue falling un-apprehended it would land on STAY which is the best option and is what Vriska actually wants.
But what will actually happen ins Gamzee will show up and snatch it out of the air.

>>15300
I still don't get it.

Just wtf is Gamzee DOING aside from clowning around!?

And Karkat and Sollux. Where the fuck are they?

>>15297
OR if Vriska fighting Jack and getting killed WOULD be the best outcome

>>15303
>What is Gamzee doing

>Gave Terezi her dragon and outfit
>Sent her after Vriska
>Used the heads to make a "jury"
>is using the Hammer as a gavel

He's re-enacting the Trial from the journal. DERP

>>15306
I think the bigger question is WHY.

Lil Cal should stay away from him. He's dangerous :(

well see, gamzee get's his power FROM clowning around. if he stopped being a insane clown he would become weak. hussie said this on the forums. it's why the joker is such a powerful villain even though he is mostly just dicking with people. evil clown power.

>>15310

Are you being ironical? Otherwise that's just dumb.

>>15312
Actually, it really is how things are. Hussie himself said so.

And I don't think it's dumb. The only thing I honestly hate in this comic is all this predestination bullshit, and lo, we just got MORE of it!

Bob 2011/05/17(Tue)19:35 No. 15327 ID: 2eac65
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>The Thief used her abilities to steal the fortune of her opponent, and forced the flip to yield what she regarded as the most favorable outcome.
So apparently my interpretation was off, and Vriska's abilities are dependent on her own biases.

Or maybe it has more to do with her stealing the luck from Terezi, her "opponent", and picking whichever outcome is worse for her as a result.

This, of course, would mean that Vriska going to fight Jack is the worst thing that could happen to Terezi, because it will get Vriska killed and lead Jack to their asteroid hideout, as opposed to staying in the asteroid and doing whatever it is she would have done there. Hopefully, Terezi can convince her of this in time.

>>15321
I agree. If there's one thing I don't like about Homestuck, it's the constant references to "non-linear time". It sometimes seems to render the events of the comic pointless, as if the characters were just going through the motions and nothing was actually occuring for any particular reason.

no see. the key is "what she regarded"
terezi must of worded it such that even though she lost the flip she still won the battle.

>If the result was the undamaged side, the Thief would agree to stay. If not, she would "go."
Notice the "go" is in quotes?
Vriska has just unwittingly opened herself up to actually be killed.
Her agreeing to the terms of the coin flip will make her death 'just' and thus actually possible.

Whether Terezi can actually kill her or not is another story, though.

>>15334
It turns out she can't.

>You cannot do it.
>You cannot kill the girl.

Welp. That was an utter fucking letdown. I usually love everything hussie does, but this scratched disk and doc fucking scratch summarizing? Complete copout. He's gonna have to pull out something huge to make up for this.

Oh hey he's pulling something huge now.

Bob 2011/05/19(Thu)11:14 No. 15347 ID: 0c9433
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ROUND 2

FIGHT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWNYzwDYvs

Bob 2011/05/19(Thu)17:55 No. 15350 ID: 7dda9a
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>>15347
Rose confirmed as a hero.
Also confirmed as more dangerous than Noir.
This will be great to watch

>>15350

>Also confirmed as more dangerous than Noir.

Nope.

The only thing confirmed was that the noir at this point in the timeline is less dangerous than the one in the trollverse.

>>15354
that's cause at the moment he is holding back because he want's a foe to fight for a while so he isn't so ungodly BORED.

>I warned my neophyte protege not to stare into that ball.

Bullshit, he did exactly the opposite of that.

So much for 'I never lie.'

>>15387
he probably warned her in some round about an obtuse manner.

>>15384

Man, Dad looks like a weird superhero in that image.

>>15387
My thoughts exactly. For all his pretense of truthfulness, he's still a very dishonest man. Even when he doesn't technically lie, he knowingly omits information, is deliberately vague with the intent of being misinterpreted, lets others (Aradia) tell lies for him, and otherwise renders the claim "I never tell a lie" into essentially meaningless trivia. Rose called him out on this once, and he responded with an ad hominem statement about her feelings of entitlement.

Doc Scratch claims to play with his cards face up, but he still keeps them up his sleeve.

Hussy is such a pretentious dipshit. Since he started the disk fixing, nothing has been done in a way that's shorter or more condensed than how he was doing things before. And before you say that that's part of the joke (dragging out the coin flip, waiting forever to post these updates) I'd say that just because it's done on purpose doesn't make it either good or clever.

He's "trolling" his fan base. It doesn't make me mad, though, it just makes me not really give a shit about the characters or the outcome. I don't think it's all on purpose, either. I genuinely believe that he has a lot of cool ideas, but no clue how to properly string a narrative together, and, hell, a lot of the best stuff in Problem Sleuth was user-generated, although it suffered from the same painfully bad pacing as Homestuck.

>>15422

This is pretty much exactly how I feel.

>>15422
Yeah, this, pretty much.

I like the characters (most of them, anyway) but don't really care about the plot. So when we step away from the characters and focus on the plot, (in probably the worst way possible) it's pretty bad, from my perspective.

Well, I'm enjoying it just fine.

all the john/vriska shippers probably went SQUEE when they saw the hammer.

She probably dies and someone mixes her corpse and Zillyhoo together and gives John the code.
And her doomsday device possibly. Probably through some weird computer screencap using the trollian timeline viewport.

It seemed to also incorporate the aesthetic of Eridan's gun.

Vriska is so dumb.

Dammit Vriska

Bob 2011/05/30(Mon)15:59 No. 15799 ID: 0d7a83
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She has the dumb. ALL OF IT.

Noticing the action in the upper banner.

Two more fake deaths.

at this point I don't even care anymore
deaths have lost their meaning. There just have been too many, either permanent, with some form of revival, or fake.
Now I'm like happy because there's literally no suspense anymore about this shit. They're dead in a form. They're going to die again somehow. And another timeline shows up or we go to the afterlife bubbles and chill out there with them or just plain never see them again okay.
Where the fuck do we go from here?

Hussie and Whedon are going to form a singularity at this rate. The main difference is that Whedon's death sort of matter. You know there coming but how and who? Hussie doesn't have any fucking prejudice with those that have plot armor, all you care about is HOW. Which just inspires curiosity, not much emotion.

>>15827
This isn't even the right way to do it. Just hearing (sorta) Scratch monotonely explain everything as a fact is not good storytelling.

>>15832
There's no right way of storytelling
But this storytelling's quality is iffy at best
I wish I could be one of the fans getting all shocked and getting the suspense out of the situation. Yes, they exist. Been lurking in the PA forums and I see a few. I wish I could be one of those fans right now, but all I can do is sit back and go "alright. So when does the cool unpredictable parts happen? The last was when Rose went Grimdark." Alright alright, now lets move on to someone we do care about that isn't essentially acting in futility, like Jade or future Dave or Dead Past Dave and Aradia... or Gamzee. He's doing shit too in his crazy behavior. His wild card factor kept him from becoming a trophy at least, and Kanaya isn't a corpse either.

Music's still A-O-Fucking K though

>>15835
True.

You know at this point I realize that the banner-picture storytelling is what's really entertaining in these updates.

I doubt Hussie truly intended that in any form of irony whatsoever as he can't be that good a manipulator of emotions, but I could see it in that way so it's more impressive. The story going on in the banner is more interesting then the panels because we don't have a immortal villain Jack Noir killing everything we care about, we have the cool original Jack Noir being a good old fashioned renegade and tearing shit up.

He just brings a tear to my heart you know?

>>14434
Oh god yes ahahahaha. Always bet on Spades to save the story.

The only question now is how Scratch could possibly be surprised by this.

>>15872
Unsurprising but still incredibly rude. Now the question is how Scratch can continue relating the story with...well..fire everywhere

Doc Scratch said there were dark spots in his omniscience. I'd guess this is one of them.

>>15880
That or he just doesn't care. Fire can't kill him, after all.

...okay, I have to admit, seeing Doc Scratch's face? The funniest thing in Homestuck in a long time.

he isn't surprised... he's filling up the candy...
I think he doesn't really care

Makes me wonder if Doc Scratch is Hella Jeff, and since he's made of both a omniscent cueball and Cal, and he's really Hella Jeff under that orb face, that means Hella Jeff is Lil Cal's son...

Making Sweet Bro's Mom Lord English. Make's me wonder who Sweet Bro is. I'd think the 8 ball person but that's Snowman. No, Sweet Bro is the pool stick

>and he's really Hella Jeff under that orb face,

He's not. He's projecting it because he's currently making a 8^Y joke. It's not even the first time he's projected it.

>>15886
But Lord English is already the pool stick.

If nothing in Paradox Space is new... everything is a variation of something that has already happened... Doesn't that mean that Paradox Space is made of remixes?

Like the albums?

>>15907
Dave would enjoy the deep irony of this, and then make some biznasty remixes, for more irony.

...Huh. I dunno what to feel...

I really didn't see this coming, I can say that much.

SO people complaining about the presentation of this arc: Now you know why.

>>16028
So he can do a cheap fake out and waste more time? OK.

Wasn't paying attention to what was happening below the banner as I flipped pages. There's nothing significant happening there.
Spades Slick is all that's important.

Nothing has happened since this part of the story started. It started with the coinflip. Assuming this even kills Vriska, it will be the first thing that actually happened since Scratch started a supposedly shorter narrative to get us to the next point. We knew John wasn't dead because god tier, so what, exactly, is 'shorter' about this? I think it just proves the arguments above.

The banners are pretty great, though.

The banner is the star. It is him.

I think this is to show us more of Doc Scratch's character, more than it is to show us more of the plot.

Think about it. Doc Scratch goes on about he doesn't speculate, doesn't gamble, and currently isn't in a mood to waste time. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE LIES. Doc Scratch is a big fat liar, and the point of this whole thing (besides having Slick be awesome and get his ass killed, maybe?) was to illustrate that point.

>>16034
Which begs the question: What does the Scratch do?

And what will destroying the Green Sun accomplish?

>>16032
Slick died. That's a thing.

I think the thing about this being intended to be shorter may have just been a case of Hussie lying to us to cover up the fact that this was being shortened because it was unimportant.

>>16030
>waste more time
Homestuck isn't about cramming a maximum amount of meaningful shit into as short a time as possible. Faffing about is an important part of the story telling. We spent this time on Scratch faffing. It'll read better when not limited by update speed, which is how Hussie intends it to be read anyway. So that's something.

>>16037

the Scratch is still a mystery.

blowing up the Sun will appease the horrorterror gods, kill Bec Noir, kill the good doctor, and unleash his master Galactus.

>>16028

ACtually, if you were in the IRC you when it was being discussed I already mentioned that this wasn't even the alpha timeline.

It's still stupid.

>>16042
The joke is that THIS IS the scratch...
the DISK is SCRATCHED
and it's being repaired. in doing this, things get reset.

half expecting a rimshot

>>16050
That's one of the things I don't like about the comic. The whole deal with the Scratch being a scratch on the real-life game disk and such seems to be an attempt at a plot twist, but it isn't. It looks like a plot twist, but it's so meta-surreal that it's pretty much incomprehensible and therefore irrelevant to the actual plot.

Why is it Doc Scratch's job to do this anyway? He's part of the Trolls' session. If the Kids made their own universe, would it be Bec's job to repair it if it got Scratched?

>>16051
it's another time loop. the disk was always going to get scratched so he is there to fix it. EVERYTHING is a time loop.

GODDAMN IT HUSSIE YOU JUST WASTED THE LAST FUCKING WEEK OF UPDATES DIDN'T YOU

>>16050
>>16051
I really doubt this is the case. I think that the current scratched disk is just meant to parallel that.

Wow.

Bob 2011/06/10(Fri)01:00 No. 16098 ID: 2eac65
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Karkat looks so sad...

hug~

so adorable~

HATE SNOG

oh god, vriska actually admitted to liking him, and now she is DEAD. son of a bitch!

i laugh at her pathetic death
it is funny to me
haa haa hee hee hoo hoo

In other news: SLICKS GETTIN' SOME ACTION YEEAAAH!

>>16197
It's not totally clear whether her death is considered just or heroic, so it might not be permanent. I don't think it is, but I'm not sure how much wishful thinking is influencing my judgement.

>>16200

Given all the people she's killed, and the fact that if she lives she'll get all the trolls murdered because of her stubbornness, yeah, I think her death was pretty just.

In other news, Doc Scratch is the worst omnipotent being ever. He's also an awful narrator.

>>16202
I'm reasonably certain that she didn't kill anyone she didn't have a right to kill, considering that in Troll culture it's acceptable to kill anyone of lesser blood. The fact that she was in the process of making a poor decision doesn't make her death just. The fact that she was attempting to go be a big damn hero could arguably make her death heroic, but since she died like a bitch to a backstab I really don't think that counts.

How does the whole godclock thing work anyway? How something is just and heroic is debatable enough with just human definitions. Is it a constant between sessions of alien races and philosophies?

maybe it determines it by what everyone the god in question knows thinks of the death? everyone john knows thinks his death was shitty. with vriska though... at the end terezi was only telling herself that it was for justice but it was more to stop her from trying to fight jack. and john feels she is a good person. so..i dunno, think she died around neutral as well.

>>16205

>How something is just and heroic is debatable enough with just human definitions.

Human definitions don't matter. Skaia's definitions do.

>>16203

The godclock and epic death system isn't based on alien points of views, is based on goddamn storytelling. Because that's the only thing that determines if a death is "heroic" or "just". Is just Homestuck going meta as fuck again.

So in terms of the story, yeah, her death is just because she was going to destroy any hope they have, and kill all the trolls. And because Terezi is the Judge or whatever and Vriska is the Thief. And because Vriska's ancestor killed Terezi's ancestor, now it should be the other way around.

All of those things make her death "just" in a cheesy, storytelling way. That is pretty much the way HS runs.

>>16221

Not that it means anything, whether she dies or not. Andrew has worked really hard to make sure that death is completely meaningless in Homestuck.

oh god slick
you just made her death all the more violent with that noise

>>16208
Looks like Skaia's definitions are superseded by a crowbar in the wrong time and place.

>>16221
but she didn't WANT to kill the rest of the trolls she wanted to go and kill noir. terezi killed vriska because she knew he would follow her trail of fairy dust to the base.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

And of course doc scratch can fix it and hussie is just pulling our collective leg.

>>16228
Could be, although it would be exceedingly lucky to have a clock that is linked directly to your only two ways of dying get struck by a weapon with odd temporal effects just as it's about to stop ticking.

>>16230
In other words, beat the damn thing with a crowbar and break the game by going over the limit. And the douche deserves it he broke up an interesting looking snog session.

there it is ladies and gentlemen

>>16228
I think Scratch would be less mad if that were the case.

>>16250
Or maybe he just really likes that clock
Denial

Latest update...is that Death from Problem Sleuth on the book?

it's karkat's death code book about making programs that deal or activate based on death or some shit. Apparently by using one of those types of codes, one summons Lord English because the universe dies

>>16254
wait... couldn't that mean something was programmed to activate when vriska died?

there has been no evidence or foreshadowing insofar to even implicate that. However, it's still a possibility if only because now Doc Scratch has reached for the book after Jack trashed Vriska's clock, but now it mainly serves as a function of reading out his own DNA brought together by a few trolls in a separate time-line and Doc Scratches personal scrap book for different timelines.

A code from that book doesn't necessarily mean a death has to happen for a code to activate, but it can happen in reverse. Someone runs the code on a computer and a curse on all the troll's custodians were created, meaning they were all to die.

I wouldn't draw any conclusions anytime soon with that book beyond the fact Doc Scratch is reaching for it

woah. doc just snapped a foot thick book on his head. while bloody it seems it didn't kill him. slick is tough shit.

>>16400
I'd say the falling part is what'll kill Slick. Unless Snowman does her thing again.

Slick? SLICK!? SLIIIIIIIIICK!?!?

how shit
trolshey shore joke in the final log
"it's a troll thing. you wouldn't get it"

Bob 2011/06/18(Sat)21:28 No. 16419 ID: 234c26
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So I don't look at a lot of fanart, but this was hilarious.

Bob 2011/06/20(Mon)15:58 No. 16462 ID: 2ae337
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>>16419
Not homestuck but MSPA related...

>>16462
Oh yeah and DEUDLY FIREARMS...

further proof Doc may just be Hella Jeff with a bowl on his head.

>>16463
I want this to be true so bad.

EB: won't there be other players in the new session?
EB: like, alternate universe versions of ourselves or such?
CG: PROBABLY.
CG: BUT THOSE CHUMPS WON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT US, OR ALL OUR PLANS. WHY WOULD THEY?
EB: yeah... it's just kind of a weird thought.


Hussie. Thou art a fool or a madman.

i'm gonna go with madman.

>>16690
Uhhh, im not sure im getting it. What makes him a fool/madman? Is it the possibility of him introducing yet more characters?

huh. I actually don't mind this format..also poor Jaspers :<

Bob 2011/07/02(Sat)23:56 No. 16854 ID: e52666
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Oh my god Andrew WHAT DID YOU DOOOOOOOO

everyone who shipped jadesprite/davesprite is probably about to feel super vindicated.

>The nepeta/jaspers convo
>JASPERSPRITE: Was she nice to sniff?
>AC: :33 < yes she smelled really good, and also, she was SUPER beautyifful.

ahaha oh fuck nepeta

>JASPERSPRITE: Thats my story and thats why i think theres always hope even if you die.
>John and Vriska
Ships are magically floating back up from the bottom of the ocean.

Also
>>16856
Nepete X Pounce de Leon confirmed for incest/bestiality.

Is it really incestuous if they're of different species?

trolls don't even HAVE the concept of incest

pounce is also a girl so it would be LESBIAN bestiality.

>>16857

>Ships are magically floating back up from the bottom of the ocean.

They have ALREADY MENTIONED that they're going to go hang out in deadville to ride out the scratch. That's where the whole meet-up is scheduled to happen in the first place.

>>16857

>Ships are magically floating back up from the bottom of the ocean.

They have ALREADY MENTIONED that they're going to go hang out in deadville to ride out the scratch. That's where the whole meet-up is scheduled to happen in the first place.

>>16862

Actually it's more that they don't really care, since due to the mother grub shenanigans their familial relationships are all potentially incredibly interconnected to begin with and they don't have to worry about inbreeding causing genetic problems since all of their gene-combining is manually overseen.

>>16866
I don't recall a mention of any manual oversight. I thought they just collected geneseed from Matesprits and Kismesis, delivered it to the Mother Grub, and let her make babies from it. It's been said that stronger feelings give their genetic material an advantage in the selection process, which would make the troll race predisposed towards irrational emotional extremes, and we've seen quite a lot of that.

>>16867
which also results in a lot of people thinking that the trolls were a created race. the entire thing seemed to of been falling apart for a long time. and alternia is the birthworld, every troll ever is born on it, so when the feferi's horror monster killed everyone it was a quick death rather then a years of knowing you are doomed because all the mother grubs died in meteor fire.

>>16867

>I don't recall a mention of any manual oversight. I thought they just collected geneseed from Matesprits and Kismesis, delivered it to the Mother Grub, and let her make babies from it.

The mother grubs are at least as intelligent as the trolls. They can speak. The mother grub oversees the mixing, like you just said.

Big question...do you think the trolls look just like real gray horned humans or do they maybe have a more exoskeletal or leathery appearance?

>>16885
the first one. the grub thing is where bug similarities end.

http://cel3stial.com/trollmegle/

What is this I don't even

Duh. The trolls don't make much sense because their universe was slapped together at the last minute by a few clueless kids who were trying to get it done before The Scratch. Of course it's not going to entirely make sense. But why else would everything in the trollverse be based in some way on terrible human films?

>>16906
uhhh, universe creation doesn't work taht way. to make a universe you need to make the perfect frog it will then make a vast croak and cause the new universe to spring into existence. the universe is made in it's entirety right in the croak, you can't slap it together.

>>16904
This is brain-abvsingly sad.

>>16909
>abvsingly
>v
This makes me thing about an imperial troll, who's all Roman and shit, with troll SPQR and troll eagles and shit.

fedorafreak!!!
oh my

and.. it seems this is alternate john who was killed by terezi.

>>16937
Yep. Looks like non-alpha timelines produce ghosts as well. This is new information.

>>16942
It's not really new (why do people keep forgetting this?)
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005387

Oh, right. Hmm. Wouldn't this mean there are an infinite number of ghosts floating around from all the doomed timelines?

>>16943
>>16942
no no, see, that dave, while doomed, was still part of the alpha timeline. this dead john died in a DIFFERENT timeline altogether. so it was unsure if he would exist.

>>16945

Aradia told the dead dave that there were other non-alpha-line dead daves in bubbles that he could go visit.

And really, since the whole area exists outside of normal time (and hence why they have to go through the rim to get there, by which they mean to actually physically visit the location), why WOULDN'T there be dead people from splinter timelines there?

>>16945
No, because the dream bubbles are floating around outside of universes, where there is no time. Therefor, if any timelines can excrete ghosts, they all can. Ther is no logical possibility for this to not be the case.

>>16944
Not infinite. Only things that have a chance of happening cause splits. The coin falling didn't create a new timeline, because Vriska had obligated herself to make it fall in favor of leaving. Terezi's decision was not clear cut, there were two possibilities and thus two timelines.

Even were that not the case, it would merely be almost infinite, because the Incipisphere is finite.

New update, with new plot critical information! Namely: fedorafreak is still awesome.

he also gonna godtier

>>17280
>fedorafreak alive
>laying down on something suspiciously described like a quest bed
>Betty Crocker a non-human monster

I...I have no...what...I ...

I don't know if this is awesome or ridiculous

>>17282
I'm going to have to go with ridiculous.

>>17282
If you think there's a difference, maybe Homestuck isn't the series for you.

I wonder how dead the black queen really was, because right now we're running kinda low on evil female non humans.

>>17288
Betty Crocker could just be someone we don't know, which is likely the case with Lord English, so Lord English's parallel is Betty Crocker, which makes perfect sense.

Lord English is Betty Crocker

>>17289
He destroys universes and... makes cakes?

No wait, he destroys universes with cakes.
Yeah, that's it.

>>17288
Or...the creator of Fruit Troll-ups

THE TROLL EMPRESS *dun dun duuun*

i wonder who fedorafreak's server player was, and who he served

Why would any of this be a different session or have parallels?

>>17293
Well one possibility is that he didn't have one and was brought into the same way the parents were. I pretty sure he's in another session, which is interesting because his conversation with nansprite seemed to be happening at the same pace for both of them, unlike with the trolls.

>>17295
but he has to be a hero to go godtier! if he's a guardian, that mean his own kid has to be playing and only he would go godtier, but it sounds like his family died :(

maybe his kid or whatever ordered the beta, installed it and everything but he started playing it first because he was curious what his kid was up to and if it had anything to do with stylish wear? then meteors started falling and had to save all his hats while he and his kids friend did everything while he really ends up being the hero.

>>17296
Yeah that could be true, although everything is just speculation at this point.
Now that I think about it he could be in the same session. If he was near John's house when it left he could have came though and then took John's postbox as a weapon. And as for becoming a god the games so fucked up he might be able to anyway.

Bob 2011/07/18(Mon)01:18 No. 17302 ID: 9c538a
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It doesn't seem unclear what's going on to me. John's Dad only met Rose's Mom in dreams. They were sleeping when Bec-noir killed their dream selves. Dad upon waking up was accosted and fatally wounded by "undersized, sportive rascal" aka an Imp. He then crawled onto his god bed for a bit of a nap. Nice, sensible causality.

>>17302
fedorafreak isn't Dad it's one of his friends on SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Homestuck is getting much more interesting now. I like it better when it's not focused on predestination and stuff; now it feels like things are actually happening.

In recent news, WV vs. SS! Is he going to use the Queen's Ring? Perhaps his nightmare about going on a rampage was, in fact, a flashback to what we're about to see.

Which brings up one of my many minor complaints: how the power scale is portrayed, particularly the strength of Jack Noir pre- and post-Becsprite. The final prototyping was portrayed as a semi-apocalyptic event, but when Jack first got the ring, he was already strong enough to slaughter entire armies, kill the Black King, and force Prospit's moon out of its orbit. Bec Noir honestly didn't seem like much of an upgrade at first; the only major change apart from a vague power boost was that he could do the warpy thing. It wasn't until the Jack vs. Dave/Jade fight that we really saw just how much of an upgrade his First Guardian powers are.

That might have something to do with how First Guardians in general are portrayed. They're said to be virtually omnipotent and omniscient, but they don't really do much. The powerset seems to be just teleporting, superspeed, glowy green lightning bolts, and {in Doc Scratch's case) ESP and a wireless typewriter.

>>17322
i am sure that, if bec wasn't a dog and was better able to see the future he could of teleported the meteor away. instead he just shot it with a laser. cause he could only see moments into the future and moving something larger then his silhouette takes time to charge.

>>17330
I've thought about that, and the only way Bec's actions make sense is if he intended to power up Jack for some reason. One might assume that he just wanted to protect Jade and just didn't think about it too hard, but that leaves a lot of things unexplained. Let's review what he did:

1: Warped away all objects in the vicinity of the kernel. There would be no need to do this unless he wanted to prototype himself specifically.

2: He does so.

3: He destroys the meteor with a laser. It's been suggested that he prototyped himself for the power boost, but First Guardians are already superpowerful; based on what we've seen them do, he should have been able to save Jade without sprite powers.

4: He warps Jade's bullet into the path of her pinata, ensuring her entrance to Sburb. This shows a level of understanding towards the game mechanics, and intelligence enough to apply his portals effectively.

Simply put, Becquerel seems to have known enough about the game to know what his prototyping would mean, and most likely would have been able to save Jade without doing so. He must have had some other reason for prototyping himself; perhaps Bec Noir was a means to some end, or an unwanted side effect, but it was his intention.

>>17338
It also keeps Jack from being able to harm Jade, which is a pretty reasonable thing for Bec to be concerned about, considering his disposition. It's more like he intended to help Jade without really thinking or caring about the other consequences of his prototyping.

>>17340
Good point. If what happened with Jack happened to all the other uranium underlings, that would do a very good job of protecting Jade.

Come to think of it, when Jade first STRIFEd with an imp [url=http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004900]here[/url], it didn't make any move to attack her, did it? Maybe that was Bec's intention.

>>17341
Tag fail. I meant this:

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004900

Oh well. Now we know what doesn't work.

Bob 2011/07/24(Sun)06:04 No. 17432 ID: 75ce8a
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Even though he's just trolling again I have to admit I laughed at this.

Bob 2011/07/24(Sun)14:04 No. 17437 ID: 0c9433
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Worst rap off in the history of paradox space and to top it all off:

TC: ThIs iS BeAuTiFuL, dUdE, i fEeL So aT ChIlL WiTh yOu.
AT: yEAH, fRIENDLINESS WITH YOU IS, pRETTY MUCH ALWAYS NICE, aND FUN TO HAVE,
TC: HeY...
TC: WhEn wE Up aNd sTaRt tO KiCk aT ThIs rEd TeAm NoIsE,
TC: YoU ShOuLd mAkE YoUr wAy tO GeT YoUr hAnG On aT My hIvE.
AT: oH, yES, tOTALLY,
TC: We cOuLd sPlIt a tIn oF ThE PiMpEsT SnEeZe i gOt oN HaNd, BaKeD Up aLl sPeCiAl fOr yOu.
TC: AnD ThEn mAyBe mAkE OuT A LiTtLe.
AT: uH,
TC: ;o)
AT: ,
AT: ,,

Things just got a little...gayer

>>17437
We were already pretty gay with
>AT: tHEY ARE RUTHLESSLY DISCIPLINARY, aND MY HEAR DUCTS HAVE BEEN NAUGHTY,
>AT: i THINK,
>AT: tHEY ARE NAUGHTY FOR MORE, }:)
That comment just made it undeniable.

>>17476
First Equius, and Tavros too... Gamzee seems to have a talent for subjugglation. Maybe it's the blood.

...you know, I wondered for a long time why Karkat's handle was carcinoGeneticist. I guess now we know.
Karkat giving the kids' universe cancer was planned for a long time, I guess!

>>17541
HUUUUUSSSIIIIIIIIE

FFFFFFFFFFFFF GAMZEE GAVE DREAM JOHN THE JACK DOLL!

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005937

what the fucky fuck is going on? Ihavenoclue

AWWW SHIT GUYS I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ANYMORE
WHY IS LITTLE ARIES TROLL GIRL ALL UP IN CUEBALLMAN'S SHIT
YOU DON'T BELONG THERE LITTLE ARIES TROLL GIRL
YOU'RE NOT EVEN A FELT

WHY SO MANY METALINES DO YOU CROSS, HUSSIE

>>17556
I click on that link and it errors out. THis is the URL that spawns.
http://youtubedownloader.mybrowserbar.com/cgi/errors.cgi?q=http://www.mspaintadventures.com/%26type%3ddns%26ISN%3dB12558
B4BD9349C192E7AA7EB324E295%26ccv%3d135%26cnid%3d937811%26cco%3dUS%26ct%3d3%26sc%3d804b001e&type=dns&ISN=B12558B4BD9349C1
92E7AA7EB324E295&ccv=135&cnid=937811&cco=US&ct=3&sc=804b001e

>>17568
that's just you. you got a virus dude.

aww yeah, EoA bitches.

Everyone get ready. Its coming, and soon.

Bob 2011/08/12(Fri)20:44 No. 17610 ID: 0c9433
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Well shit

The Sufferer was a foul-mouthed troll jesus

That explaaaaaaaaains everythiiiiing

Dammit hussie, that is more than a yard. Get the hell out of your own story!

I hope the next page says
>You are now Andrew Hussie
please suggest an action

and then in the first time in a long time AH opens a suggestion box and asks his fans to go to town on his ironic, self-indulgent ass. And we all have a good laugh about it.

One yard is not enough for Hussie.

>>17615
http://www.formspring.me/mspadventures/q/226513058460106938
He's broken the fifth wall, not the fourth wall yet.

Oh hey, look, more ancestors, a whole bunch of them. And KanayaAncestor was sold into slavery, which pretty much confirms yeah mindfang mindraped her.

He broke the fourth wall when Doc Scratch started speaking to the viewer.

No as you can plainly see when Aradia is banging the chair against the fifth wall the forth wall is merely covered by Lord English's coat. Ain't broken yet.

By normal definitions, yes, you'd be right. But this is the Hussie definition of forth wall breaking we're talking about. Merely having an omnipresent being referring to us as guests doesn't count.

Now I see what the dicks you're talking about.

The actual fourth wall, in literary terms, was broken when Hussie and Scratch have spoken to us.

The literal in-universe fourth wall however is still intact. Also there are two of them.

>>17621
>>17623
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing.

So Kanycestor was Virgin Mary

Nepta's Nyancestor was Mary Magdalene

Now we just need a Judas

I'm liking the recent updates. It's nice to see troll culture fleshed out; the comic could really use the extra world-building. It's usually just laid out some basic framework for the civilizations, like "Prospit is the light kingdom, Derse is the dark kingdom" and not bothered with too many details. Plus, we get fodder for more plot stuff.

For instance: At the time of Sollux's "birth", his ancestor was still alive. And since the Empress takes over 500 sweeps to get back to Alternia, then she's still a long ways off with respect to the trolls' personal timeline (time has been mostly synchronized between the Medium and the host planet).

Another thing: The previous troll civilizations' session didn't make its players in the ectobiology lab. So what did they make? And the players still came down on meteors; where did those come from?

>>17633
>"Prospit is the light kingdom, Derse is the dark kingdom"
They're just game constructs, so that's excusable.

>The previous troll civilizations' session didn't make its players in the ectobiology lab.
Are you certain?

>>17636
nope, good chance they were made that way. they SWAPPED positions with the currant gang, meaning last time karkat and gang were the ancestors.

>>17636
>They're just game constructs, so that's excusable.
Sburb is a game that creates entire planets populated by sentient races. And there have been references to friends Jade made on Prospit's moon, and bits of Prospitian and Dersite culture, and the Dersite agents... it's not that the details aren't there in-story, they just don't get as much exploration as I'd prefer.

>Are you certain?
That's what was said. The players weren't spawned from their own session, which is a sign of Lord English's influence, and thusly weren't prepared to win, so they scratched their universe and ended up with trollkind as we know it.

>>17638

>The players weren't spawned from their own session

Of course not. Karkat made them in the post-scratch session and then Doc Scratch made sure they ended up in the pre-scratch timeline (where they would fail, scratch, and then re-emerge as the ancestors in the post-scratch timeline) in order to preserve the loop. This isn't complicated.

>And there have been references to friends Jade made on Prospit's moon, and bits of Prospitian and Dersite culture,

Yes but none of that is actually relevant to the story at all.

>For instance: At the time of Sollux's "birth", his ancestor was still alive.

And Feferi's was still alive when she died, what's your point?

>Alternia, then she's still a long ways off with respect to the trolls' personal timeline (time has been mostly synchronized between the Medium and the host planet).

Except for all of the flashbacks and flashforwards that have been all over the goddamn comic. The empress's return is in the future of the trollverse, and from there doc scratch will port her over to become betty crocker in the past of the humanverse.

YES HUSSIE! DO IT!

...Wait..what's going on...is this self insertion that isn't silly or...I think I need to lay down

(Also for any of you who missed it the Troll Empress is obviously Betty Crocker. Discuss)

Hussie is just writing Doc Scratch as if he's fond of being needlessly wordy when Scratch has, in fact, stated otherwise.

He's diverting blame. HUSSIE OBVIOUSLY IS AGAINST TLDR IT'S SCRATCH'S FAULT SEE

>>17640
>Of course not. Karkat made them in the post-scratch session and then Doc Scratch made sure they ended up in the pre-scratch timeline (where they would fail, scratch, and then re-emerge as the ancestors in the post-scratch timeline) in order to preserve the loop. This isn't complicated.
That's one possibility.

>Yes but none of that is actually relevant to the story at all.
It's nice to learn more about where a story is taking place. A problem that a lot of "epic" stories have is that they portray world-shaking events but don't show much about the worlds that are being changed by said events. Homestuck involves entire civilizations being created and destroyed in the process of making a new universe, and this is only one of many such occurences. Going into detail about the people and worlds involved gives the reader a sense of just how big and complicated they really are, even if they pale in significance to the impersonal cosmic forces that command their fate, and makes said cosmic forces seem all the more epic by comparison. Details like that are relevant to the storytelling, in that they highlight the tragic irony of Sburb.

>And Feferi's was still alive when she died, what's your point?
Not much. I just thought it was an interesting detail.

>Except for all of the flashbacks and flashforwards that have been all over the goddamn comic.
Except for... except what? What is being "excepted" here? Yes, it's true that the comic has flashbacks in it. It's also true that time in the Medium passes at the same rate as it does for the host planet, at least with respect to online messaging services and the Sburb game itself; of course, the Exiles' terminals are synchronized to the Medium's past, and Skaia's portals can travel in both time and space.

>It's also true that time in the Medium passes at the same rate as it does for the host planet,

Which is why her return is just yet another flash-forward and isn't really worthy of temporal note.

>Details like that are relevant to the storytelling,

No, they really aren't. At all. They're completely ancillary. They don't highlight shit about sBurb, they would just waste time introducing elements that have absolutely no bearing on the story whatsoever. The story has enough chaff already and does not need more.

>The story has enough chaff already and does not need more.

Sing it, sister. If you balled up all the loose ends and dangling plot threads, you'd be able to knit a scarf from here to Barnard's Star. Dr. Pompous' little yarn can wait.

>>17661
Ah. You meant that you didn't like something about Homestuck that I liked about Homestuck. Now I get it.

Personally, I like the character/world development.

alright
well okay he's messing with the way the narrative is being told but now just messed with the narrative by letting a character escape from their captor who just so happened to be the narrator

Something tells me she comes back with a yardstick or something and Hussie kills Scratch with it, kicking off the summoning of Lord English. That's how he influences the narrative. Impalement by one yard. Because narration and narrative just got into this big ol' clusterfuck and I can't really tell what Hussie means anymore.

I'm telling you this whole one yard business has some of that "for none of woman born" ironic shit written all over it.

>>17663

>Ah. You meant that you didn't like something about Homestuck that I liked about Homestuck.

No, I mean that dersian culture or the nature of Jade's prospitian friends are literally irrelevant. That they EXISTED establishes skaia's 'tragic irony (there is actually nothing ironic about it)' as much as it would if they were fleshed out. All fleshing it out would do is waste more space. It has absolutely nothing to do with the story.

I am not saying 'I do not like it.' I am saying that that would be even worse storytelling.

Dirtbag 2011/08/18(Thu)06:45 No. 17666 ID: e3f578
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can't get enough of this .gif

I keep getting reminded of the Dark Tower series, where Stephen King showed up as a character and was the most important person in the universe.

>>17665
So you think that developing a story's setting and history has nothing to do with said story and is bad storytelling (which, for some reason, is completely different from you not liking it).

Even if they were destroyed, they're still part of the setting. They give us a sense of how the Homestuck world works. It's one thing to have a character say "my friends all died". It's another to actually see her interacting with her friends, to meet them and get to know them like she does.

It's fine if you're not entertained by the little details and want to get to the main events. I just personally like having these things fleshed out.

>>17668
I think that what was said about bad storytelling is that Homestuck is basically a big epic. Until a piece of culture is important to the development of the plot or characters, it's just going to slow shit down painfully to explain pointless specific details for curiosities sake.

Epics have always been more about characters and plot anyway, with the setting taking a back seat. The LOTR movies never went into super detail about each race (dunno about the book beyond Tolkien inventing a whole legitimate language) and LOTR seem to be a part of the epic genre, or it's at least what I hear what some people call an epic so I figure it's a decent example. Doesn't mean they're culture hasn't been discussed, demonstrated, or thought out, just that it wasn't told in the story and in a wiki form, interview, spin-off books/Expanded Universe fiction. I doubt Hussie would even want to fill out a big ass wiki or documentary on Dersian and Prospitian marital traditions, games, architecture, language etc. on the level of Tolkien elves have been established.

>>17669
In other words, you think that Homestuck has too many little details that don't have enough relevance to the main plot to warrant so much elaboration. I like the elaboration, but I can see where you're coming from. Homestuck does tend to be somewhat overly elaborate and meandering.

>Epics have always been more about characters and plot anyway, with the setting taking a back seat.
To me, Homestuck's setting is a big part of what makes it epic. It's about a game that creates and destroys entire worlds, and has done so countless times before. I'd actually like to see more than one other session for comparative purposes, so we can see just how the game and its offspring differ across the realities. It would be hard to tie them into the plot, of course.

>I doubt Hussie would even want to fill out a big ass wiki or documentary on Dersian and Prospitian marital traditions, games, architecture, language etc. on the level of Tolkien elves have been established.
Not that much, obviously, but I think the Light and Dark Kingdoms suffer from too little development. We know that Derse are the bad guys and Prospit are destined to lose the war, but we haven't delved too deeply over why they're fighting the war or how their culture or government works. We know that there's a king and queen, and they have some subordinates, and that's pretty much it. There have been some snippets of Prospitian mythology here and there, but we haven't seen the "big picture", so to speak. The trolls had the same problem until recently. So did the consorts, come to think of it.

Then again, putting in too much detail would make the comic even more of a convoluted mess than it already is. And wouldn't leave as much room for fanworks. Or maybe it could inspire more fanworks; who knows?

>>17670
Well then as fans shouldn't they add it in? with Hussie's approval...


And I'd rather not think to hard about why the two fight. I just figure they do it, because they don't know anything else. Makes it easier for me.

And you can't really predict what fans will do with new stuff. Maybe they can build whole game sessions revolving around it, or maybe they'll find it too confusing and ignore it altogether and make 'non-canon' stuff like so many people do with Trancy's sergals.

>So you think that developing a story's setting and history has nothing to do with said story and is bad storytelling

No, I KNOW that the things you are suggesting are bad storytelling. Not 'think.'

>to meet them and get to know them like she does.

Except that they don't matter at all. Their only relevance is that Jade liked them.

>I'd actually like to see more than one other session for comparative purposes,

Which would, of course, have nothing to do with the story. It would add nothing. We have already been handed an outline of the structure of a 'correct' session in the story, we don't need to see three or four examples of one. It would be redundant.

>We know that Derse are the bad guys and Prospit are destined to lose the war, but we haven't delved too deeply over why they're fighting the war

Because that's how the game works. There is no real cultural reason for there being a war, it's just a part of the game. Derse and Prospit are already at war with one another before the timeline advances far enough for them to even interact because that is how Skaia produces them.

>The trolls had the same problem until recently.

The trolls never had 'this' 'problem.' Everything about their culture that was genuinely relevant (except that it was post-scratch) was already revealed during the troll arc.

You know, if there's one useless detail I desire to gain information on and it doesn't further the story it is the status of Nic Cage, Troll Will Smith, and Human Will Smith.

We only have confirmation that Will Smith, Adam Sandler, and a few other celebrities of rom-coms have universal constants, but not Nic Cage. Nic Cage might be the one and only, since Vriska hasn't heard of Troll Nic Cage.

you know speaking of Nic Cage I watched Raising Arizona and it is an awesome movie

As has been stated, he was already there.

there's ONE loose end I also care about that may or may not be important.
the kid's weird dream drawings and traumas have all been explained in some form (Harlequin's from Gamzee and maybe the exsistance Cal too for Dave coming from Gamzee, MEOW from Jasper) but no suitable origin has been discovered for the SBaHJ on Dave's walls.

consequently, I can also not get enough of this
http://homestuckfighter.info/cyborg771/CongaStuck/

Baron of Spades 2011/08/19(Fri)11:08 No. 17679 ID: 2ae337
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The latest pages really lend evidence that Doc and Lord English may just be Sweet Bro and Hela Jeff.

Is something supposed to happen when you hover your mouse over the banners? The text stopped showing up for me after it switched from Hussie to showing the troll girl escaping.

>>17680
Yes. Large green text appears.

>>17675
it was from when terezi sent him that one comic. it was so bad it haunted him.

Bob 2011/08/20(Sat)21:25 No. 17696 ID: 9c538a
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Oh god. Oh. God.

Romance has been achieved.

Yes. That is totally a thing that happened.

Nice to see something finally going right for someone. Not even the paradoxical force of entropy can stand up to the power of love! Or the power of pity. However it works for trolls.

Man, morails ain't romance
it's bromance (from our perspective and culture)
sure troll's consider the bro relationship as the diamond romance and it's really all semantics
but yall got gushy about it
fuck gushy, that's a bro hug right there

WHAT THE GODDAMN FLIPPING FUCK WAS THAT SHIT

That was...
Unexpected

>>17701
Bro you need to SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17706

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

pap pap pap

Godammit when is someone gonna get their stabs on or something? Where did all the epic showdowns go?

>>17711
Saving it for the EoA flash I believe

>>17713
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsrCpRTSJ2E

I shamefurly admit I larfed at the end

We've all been anticipating the end-of-chapter flash, but until now all we could do is wait. Soon, that will change. The deadline is almost here. September 5th is when it finally happens.

That's right! In just a little while, we will find out what the deadline is!

Be ready.

>>17791
Oh man I am so fucking ready right now I think I just broke every record for being totally ready with how fucking ready I have made myself at this point.

Bob 2011/09/05(Mon)19:37 No. 17804 ID: 0c9433
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>>17800
YOU ARE NOT PREPARED

>>17800
>>17791
I wish I was standing behind your monitor when you saw "MUSIC ISN'T READY, ART ASSETS AREN'T READY, I'M NOT READY, MAYBE 3 WEEKS GUYS LOL"

>>17840
Any normal flash project, even counting in the fact that nothing's ready yet, would be taking a week at most. But three weeks?

Words cannot describe how much I am expecting this.

>>17840
>>17930
Yep, it's a pretty exciting deadline. A bit lackluster compared to the last one, though. The vagueness bumps it down a few notches. Plus, the deadline's deadline was 09/05; that's just one away from 09/06, which would have been a nice reference to the Sufferer's emblem. Compared to that, the flash's deadline is kind of lacking.

The joke is that I'm more excited about the deadlines than the actual flash itself.

35% complete.

40%!

If 5% continues to take 2 days, then we will have EOA6 in....

24 days.

Hussie needs to stop trying to top himself. It's getting out of hand.

>>18047
Oh shoosh. shoooooooooosh. (pap.)
"Of course man's reach exceeds his grasp; what else is Heaven for?"

End of Act 5 is gonna be a base-breaker, that's obvious. There's too much build-up. The real test will be what people say about it months after it's been published. People hated the Intermission, and now there's more slash art about the Felt than I can count.

>>18060
What? People loved the intermission. It felt like Problem Sleuth again.

Now, Act 5 Act 1, that people didn't like. WHERE ARE THE KIDS? WHO CARES ABOUT TROLLS? Hussie's "WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. OH LOOK, IT HAPPENED, WHAT A SURPRISE. MOVING ON." attitude.

And now look. Everyone loves the trolls [citation needed].

50%
>4 days later
56%

I am going to kill myself

>> 4 days later
>> still 56%

Have you killed yourself yet?

Sucks if he did, it just went up to 66%.

Well, that's faster progress. Not really what I would call fast yet of course. Ugh.

26% in 12 days. About 2% a day? Applying pure math, the estimate is for it to take 15.7 more days. So, 20th or 21st?

Winston 2011/10/05(Wed)10:08 No. 18197 ID: 0d7a83
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>Hussie says it might be done in three weeks
>go away for a while then come back
>progress bar at 50%
>go away again then come back
>see there's been 16% progress in 8 days
>do some maths
>mfw