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After reading this update, I felt a dismay and anger that left me feeling weak. And over the last hours I'm left backtracking through why I came to make such a horribly bad set of suggestions when the warnings should have been clear as day.
First off, Krotos said that the Crypt of the Gods was two rooms away, which I thought would mean running through two rooms that didn't even have the fading effect of Zela's protection. Without Zela's protection the darkness in them would be total, which would put us in clear danger of being attacked crossing them anyway. But I didn't stop to specifically ask if the effect of Zela's protection was clinging to the characters or the place. If it was the characters, they might have made it. I just want to know what would have happened if we had run right away, and what would have happened if we had run in the next update.
I also at the time erroneously thought that the Crypt of the Gods is a epicenter of the Nightmare's power, or at least a strong source, since the Nightmare corrupted Five are in there, so I thought we'd have to have Zela to have a chance at all. Now that we're in the Crypt, it's obvious I was dead wrong.
That glowing spot on the door where Tim was melting through made me think that he'd break through much sooner than he actually would. I'm slightly salty that Kaktus even showed that glowing hot spot when it only seems like it'd get us to think we should stay. Did he think that the small size of the spot would tell us that Tim wasn't going to break through fast enough? Also, if Krotos was yelling at us to run like he should have that update, maybe we would have reconsidered and done so.
I think a big part of why we ended up staying is because thinking we can find a clever "third way" to get everything is like catnip to not just us suggesters in this quest, but a lot of suggesters on tgchan. It leads us to make risky choices instead of the safe ones.
And it's a small thing, but still contributed a bit, that when Krotos said that "you could be safe" in the Crypt of the Gods, I thought "you don't fucking know we'd be safe?!" and slightly less inclined to run. In hindsight, Kaktus must have chosen the wrong word and if I'd just had Kronos ask Krotos why he wasn't sure it'd have been cleared up.
And my whole claim of a "paranoia trap" and that all the fear and threat was in the characters' heads was totally baseless in-quest and I never should have written it. Why I'd think Kaktus would pull such a thing after the very real physical danger the Catacombs has presented and the warnings Krotos was giving I can't explain.
>>117067
No, this isn't the first time Kaktus has made us suggesters pay for ignoring such blatant directions and warnings in one of his quests. The one time that leaps immediately to my mind is the end of Rust thread 5 with the protagonist, Jericho, in the Test of Power. Me and another suggester got some too-clever and totally baseless idea in our heads which led to Jericho getting impaled through the chest with a magic ice spike, ending the thread. He was a undead mummy so it wasn't the quest end, but Kaktus later said that if the lone other suggester had gone along with us two then Jericho would have died there, ending Rust. And if Kaktus still follows the same rule now, that means Kome's suggestion to run actually saved Kronos from dying, much to my chagrin.
It was my memory of that fuck-up that led me to post >>/quest/838781 in this quest, but I hedged it because the majority said to stay at the door. And then when there was no indication of my call to run in the next update, and there were signs Tim was melting through, I yet again ignored the lesson I should have learned by now and also said to stay. And looking back, I realize now that if I had said to run it would have been a tie. And since the tie vote between cutting Kronos' possessed arm off and using the earth elemental ended up with Kaktus choosing the better outcome, I should have hedged and said to run, like I had said originally. I fucked everything up yet again.
...Anyway, why did you feel that Krotos' warnings weren't enough? Your post in-quest indicates you don't think he's trustworthy. I would have been inclined towards that back at the beginning of the thread, but by the point he was yelling warnings to run he's proven himself enough.
>>117074
It's totally clear now, and was pretty clear before, that Kaktus had and has plot reasons for separating Zela and Tim from the rest of the group and no matter how good or clever our ideas were they weren't getting past that door. As for why Kaktus did so, it could be because he didn't want them entering the Crypt of the Gods for some reason. Or maybe so they can enter at some plot critical point a few minutes after Kronos and company entered. Or possibly just because if we waited for Tim to cut through we'd have simply run out of time. Or some other reason I can't think of.
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