I know what I want to post in the other thread, but it's a bit risky. My main purpose here would be to (1) connect the dots for Jasper vis my theory on how things got to where they are, and (2) give Junior a chance to finish whatever it is he's doing unmolested.

Something like this...
> Heh. I can't decide what to do.
>
> It's tempting. Entropy the Elder is a big ol' booger that the world would probably be better without. And he'd be pretty tasty.
>
> But on the other hand, every hint we have points to this having been dear old Dad's hope all along. If there's anyone that can gobble up an Evil King of the World, it's someone like us, and he's well-acquainted us with the flavor. The whole situation is inauspicious; multiple Enemies of the World have contributed to setting it up. And what would Junior think, if we were to gobble up his dad?
>
> So we probably shouldn't eat him. Don't do that.
>
> But maybe just a lick...

I'll respond here, since it's way too far past midnight for me to form a coherent suggestion in thread.

>dear old Dad's hope all along
...maybe? I dunno, it's possible he would benefit here from our actions, but foreseeing the circumstances and putting us in position for it seem a crazy level of chess-mastering, that would have required understanding how the universe would respond in literally unprecedented circumstances. Well, that, or a quickly coming up with and implementing a plan to take advantage of the situation after the fact.

>give Junior a chance to finish whatever it is he's doing
That assumes what he's doing will improve the situation. One idea I haven't had the chance to fully think though yet- do we want to buy Entropy II the chance to act, or do we want to try to stall both of them out from doing anything wrong until the hope aura hopefully diffuses their conflict?

Hmm.

>>84708
No, you're right, I don't think this was a completely planned moment. I meant more generally, trying to set us up to kill Lord Entropy.

Like, Dad was on the other side of a war, right? Taking out Imperators was part of their win condition. And here's this imperator who Mom also hated, and whose blood gets everywhere, and we're a primordial kind of god who can eat anything, and he was giving us lollipops made with Entropy's blood from a young age.

So that's set up, and then a different enemy of the world, at an opportune moment, goes and puts words into our head about destabilizing that same guy.

Like, a vague plan, and then someone taking an opportunity to give it a nudge.

>One idea I haven't had the chance to fully think though yet- do we want to buy Entropy II the chance to act, or do we want to try to stall both of them out from doing anything wrong until the hope aura hopefully diffuses their conflict?

We're admittedly operating on very limited information, but honestly I trust the son's intentions more than those of the father. If you can think of a way to stall them both other than what we're already doing, I won't say no. But I feel like stalling Entropy I is the higher priority.

Yeah, positioning us to oppose (or want to consume) Entropy at a later date is a kind of grooming I would find more plausible. Even what's-her-name recognizing this and deliberately trying to use us might make sense. (We really to come up with a punny nickname for the power under the shrine, already).

>We're admittedly operating on very limited information, but honestly I trust the son's intentions more than those of the father. If you can think of a way to stall them both other than what we're already doing, I won't say no. But I feel like stalling Entropy I is the higher priority.
Yeah, I'll buy into that logic. Stalling for our hope to take effect, or hoping that Entropy II helps when we stall for him seem the best move.

The lick idea might work, especially if, as I suspect, Entropy is trying to goad us. It would look like we were doing what he wanted, but we wouldn't be. (...assuming Jasper has the self control to stop at a lick. If this goes like Catherine's kiss did, things might take a turn for the worse).

>>84721
Lollipops made from evildoers. Important difference. It's just that Entropy's blood tastes of rather more pure, concentrated delicious evil.

>>84723
>...assuming Jasper has the self control to stop at a lick. If this goes like Catherine's kiss did, things might take a turn for the worse
Yeah, therein lies the risk. But the parallels are strong enough to Jasper's own particular trauma that I'll put my faith in her to not take things too far.

I'm pretty sure that even a lick is a bad idea, how much is entropy tainting us and subverting us already by dosing us with his substance?

Hmm. I had a kind of awesome idea for the next bit. But I am having trouble involVing Jasper in it to the proper amount.


I had an idea for a sort of Phoenix Wright like mini game. . . But I am thinking it's too much for something that is important objectively, but not really to Jasper's story.

Am I right?

>>84846
You could always just do a perspective switch. That's a regularly used technique in quests.

>trouble involving Jasper in it to the proper amount
Not surprising, that's sort of what it feels like from the player perspective. We got swept up into something big here, and it's hard to tell if we're really influencing it (or if we can).

As for just observing events and shouting objection? Would depend on execution, I guess. On the one hand, yeah, it's kind of silly for serious moment. On the other, finding flaws in people's logic or complaining about things that happen is kind of what we do. ...and I did tell her to stall with formal court talk, if she could.

The next post is going to be late Tuesday. Sorry for the wait.

Sorry for the Cop out. But it was becoming more and more clear to me, _why_ what exactly went down with the Entropys is somewhat of a mystery in cannon.

Kind of weird. Ends up making the second thread kind of short, and gets an anticlimax. And after cutting off the Titov stuff for it too!

>cop out
Perversely, I want to point out you had an even easier one available. We're voices in Jasper's head- she narrates her own story to us. We have no external perspective- no omniscient or third person view. No magic window to follow the story over her shoulder.

Events could have been hidden as easily as Jasper choosing not to tell us.

Well. ..hmm. That's sort of what's going on actually. Just with a bit of over eager enforcement.

The kind of being Jasper is becoming and the one she was are both bad at boundaries.

And I just reaLized that Chuubo's had a number of tools to handle this sort of situation that I didn't even think of trying. .:/

>The kind of being Jasper is becoming and the one she was are both bad at boundaries.
I hope in inflection point between being and becoming is centered around her fall, not around the decision we can't remember making.

>>85082
Oops? Well, baring consequences we may be unaware of, it doesn't seem like we made it out of that too badly. (Unless Catherine gets to be disappointed in a few years when her girlfriend's breasts don't develop due to being capped in metal). Although we don't really know what state the Entropies are in, or if Jr will still be around for tea later, or on good terms with us. Makes it a little harder to be the naive imperator trying to learn from and connect with her peer if we've already done a major working and influenced the course of his life in a big way. There will probably be consequences with the Titovs, too, although I can't predict what kind.

Although if you really aren't happy with how things were handled, drastic retconning is an option, I suppose. (Ie, delete thread 3 and try again). Not that I feel that's necessary.

Nah. It's not that bad. Besides ask the Chuubo MC's have complicated relationships to memory and time. In particular both Jasper and Siezhi (it's a Chinese name so I might be spelling it wrong)'s stories are about the emergence of narraTive and meaning out of the chaos of experience. So her quest having the occasional anti climax or false start kind of works.

>I hope in inflection point between being and becoming is centered around her fall, not around the decision we can't remember making.

Might be worth talking to her about that.

>Yeah.. he is like a grown up now.
I dunno why, but I find that just a little bit heartbreaking. We lost what could have been a friend and peer for something else.

No tea party discussing being junior imperators.

Feeling lazy. might take a while to post.

Mechanically you have finished a 'quest' and gained a perk. I am leaning towards just giving you an extra (your third) Divine Health level, which will mostly be useful to you because you can have an active 'binding/limb' in each health level. Your earring and the eye-mark you got today are each in one of your two normal health levels.

Did you accidentally copy too much into the update? You repeated stuff from before.

Yes..yes I think I did.

Well, no suggestions yet, so you could always delete and repost, but whatever.

True so I did.

>>85448
Interesting. We'll have to see what the robot eye lets us do, besides apparently letting Jasper intuit advanced mathematics.

Heh. Forgot that voting doesn't work with this few people.

Will be doing coffee tomorrow.

Whups. I forgot there was a 1-1 stalemate. :p

Figured someone would come along, or you'd just flip a coin eventually. Then forgot about it.

Its okay. I was about to when Kaja changed.

The perfect image I found won't upload. Tried 4 times. Grr.

>>85652
Weird. Is it too big or the wrong format, maybe?

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Testing

Sorry getting wicked bad writers block on everything i do.

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>>86006
Here's a scribble to try and help you get unstuck, then.

>no description of the outfit she finally picked
>no adorable / awkward bit at the door with Catherine reacting or the made up titles
...aw.

Oh man that makes me want to go back and add them. I have a next post but I think the thread is in the archive or grave yard or something?

Do I have to start a new thread?

>>89219
If archive, yes, if graveyard, ask a mod to take it out.

>>89219
On hey, nice timing! I'd just marked this quest off as not running literally yesterday.

The thread fell into the graveyard. You have to hop on irc and ask a mod to pull it out.

>>89219
This quest?
>>>/quest/592273

Yep. Thanks Mods, I'm actually using a beta so I wont be able to post for ~6-24 hours.

>>89274
Have fun.

>Oh man that makes me want to go back and add them
Technically nothing stopping you. (Except linearity, but what is that to a god. Or a narrative).

I think my beta forgot. >.<

Posted the update!

Huh, the thread doesn't seem to be showing up on the board? Or am I just missing it?

Oh, haha, it auto-saged.

There's an anti-spam feature where if a thread hasn't updated in long enough, it autofills sage when you load it.

> Technically nothing stopping you. (Except linearity, but what is that to a god. Or a narrative).

Hmm. Can't figure out how to do that in way that wont be incredibly jarring.

Well, it might have worked if you did it before, since you were only a post off. Now it would be a little jarring, yeah. You'd have to flashback, or have Japser go "oh, this happened before and I forgot to say."

If you really still wanted to do it, you could write it up and bug a mod to edit it into an earlier post for you. Or you could just post it here in dis as omake.

Grumble I had the perfect pic, but it wouldn't upload from my phone, and now I cant find it.

Working on updating the wiki, since when Jasper asked us if we should know what's going on, I realized I'd forgotten stuff. (You probably didn't bring your sword... wait did we ever actually get real a sword).

Started with the region properties, cause I've gone back and checked those a lot. (I think we might have gotten properties for the Kichi and Titov shrines at some point? Couldn't find it skimming around, though).

I think I need to sort the powers differently too- it would make sense to list which things were bound abilities were the result of binding, and what to / of. (Does the earring let us do sky emotes and sunlight-searching, or just one? Did we figure out what they cyber eye does, yet? And I'm not sure if the bronze seal counts as something bound, or something else).

Probably needs a character list to keep track of everyone.