so many tails, ohgod

MORE TAILS THAN HER BODY HAS ROOM FOR!

If you were curious, she has ten.

I count nine.

Wait, you don't even have a gun yet.

What's a Tozol?

So is she able to hear colors with her four ears or something? But serious, you could tell us about her abilities, assuming that's not to much of a spoiler.
Art is still pretty good and works well for a quest.

>>316429
It's concept art from months ago.

I guess it might be something like a spoiler, but "there may possibly be a firearm in the facility" isn't a biggie.

>>316432
She doesn't have any idea what abilities she may or may not have. She definitely doesn't have many right now, due to whatever's left her feeling all messed up.

>>316433
She seems strong.

What the hell is this?

>>316438
Some sort of an abomination. An abomination with tits.

>>316439
The best kind.

>>316439

So pretty much every female character on /quest/

Do ho ho

>>316429
Happy now?

>>316753
The thread's gun pose was pretty badass. I'm just sayin'.

We're pretty badass now.

Test Pattern 2009/12/06(Sun)11:33 No. 7182 ID: 51d0f5
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I'm making a point not to continue until my schoolwork's wrapped up, even though I'm wasting time sufficient to do updates now and then, in the interest of not wasting even more time. Hope not everyone loses interest by then.

Also, experimenting with different brush sizes/sketchiness/complexity.

>>316982
Hey, school work comes first. You've been doing a good job of running it so far, and I look forward to seeing more of it when it comes back around.

And psh. If we could wait for Hatch, we can wait for anything. ;)

>>316982
Farthest right looks best, IMO.

>>316982
The one in the middle looks best.
Good compromise between the busy sketchiness of the left and the lack of detail of the right one.

When is your schoolwork wrapped up? I've no idea how that works in the states.

>>316988
>When is your schoolwork wrapped up?
A week or so, for better or worse.

>>316982
I personally like the clean look of the one on the right, but either that or the middle one would work.

I'm surprised people like the right. That's the compromise-everything-for-speed one.

>>317061
It's clean and people fill in the gaps with their imagination.

Try more examples. Bigger ones, like a whole room of it.

>>317063
Nice try!

... The backgrounds are probably just going to be whatever I can get scribbled, which can reasonably be interpreted to be a room or hallway or whatever.

I prefer clean to sketchy, but the middle looks like a good balance.

Aha, there you are. What I'm typing is not just discussion but actual in-quest suggestions that Penji should hear. I'm putting it here to avoid multiple posts as ideas come to me gradually.

We know from Claws that we taste like suppress. That means that we have had it injected into our system or that it is inherently part of us.

Using counter-suppress may rid our system of it, or if we are made of it, kill us. This warrants further inquiry.

I propose that we experiment with small amounts of S and C-S. First part would be squirting a bit out and looking at it. Next would be smelling it. Then touching it. Then tasting it. If no conclusion is gained at this point I would stop short of injecting either one until we know more.

Science is fun and potentially deadly.

Also be aware that injecting Claws with C-S may cause huge changes such as removing the only chemicals keeping a hulking behemoth in check. We need to consider all options, including letting her ride it out on her own or even letting her die.

We'll nickname her Tazer Tits. Don't tell her about that.

>>318044
I thought we agreed on claws?

>>318045
We call her Claws to her face and Tazer Tits behind her back.

Anonymous 2009/12/28(Mon)12:25 No. 8267 ID: 581527
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Oh tgchan, what horrible abomination wouldn't you try to befriend.
Pic kinda Quest related.

Well, there goes my theory that she was actually the source of suppress.

Ok, current theory is then that she's some sort of super-creature, something that they shot down (with great effort) and wanted to study but were so scared of actually coming back they had her watched 24/7, even though it took so long they got bored of it. If they got so slack, she may be either the last of her species or the only one they ever encountered.

So, then, looks like our "level up" system will involve finding C-S and injecting it into our heroine. But I wonder if this will have disadvantages? For example, if most of her systems are down, that may have freed up a lot of brainpower - enough that, over time, it may have been somehow repurposed into, say, sapience. The fact that she has thumbs and an upright posture has me think that's her natural state, though.

Note to self and others: electricity was their weapon of choice in terms of "kill it" failsafes. Beware electricity.

Test Pattern 2010/01/11(Mon)09:41 No. 8934 ID: 51d0f5
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>Are you able to give us an image of your skeletal structure similar to how you gave us the image of your various systems and their states of disrepair?
I'm still working on it.

>>318734
Damn, she doesn't have so much as bones as she rather has organic body-armor.

>>318740
Only around the head (like everyone), parts of the neck, and vital organs. The limbs don't have plates. Just some extra protection around the joints.

That'll still make her pretty heavy.

>>318743
She's not fat, she's just big-boned?

>>318744

Well, heavy-boned, if they're meant to be armour. Might as well go whole hog, eh? And if she has weighty bones, that'd explain having strong muscles. She's not that bulky, so the muscles she does have must be really dense.

What this all means is that body-slams may be a good tactic against these flimsy hu-mon creatures.

so im thinking, she got too many specific details to be alien. i belive she was made with the objective of acting as some sort of space soldier.

she is superstrong, has many tails that are able to touch and feel, 4 ears to have a better audio pinpoint, laced bones to increase bullet resistance, feet and hands with hability to manipulate and retractable claws.

the claws allows for better CQC, the tails can help immensively when you need to hold several tools, hands on feet is a must when in zero gravity, 3d hearing helps to better locate yourself in a enviroment where up and down are a conveniece.

>>318746

Tons of specific details are why she must be an alien.

Every living creature has plenty of "specific details" - we humans, for example, have our opposable thumbs, our precise colour vision, our spacial awareness all for tool use; our friction-reduced hairless bodies and comparatively low muscle density (compared to other apes) for swimming; our visible eye-whites, controlled lungs and mobile tongue for communication; and skin that adapts to shifts in climate. Plus these craaazy limbs. We're way complicated.

But a gene-mod creature, they're hard to make! You can't go stuffing a ton of extra qualities into a singe base creature - it'd be far too complicated to make it all work together properly.

Penji's something that evolved, chief.

mainly details for space. a body adapted for atmosphere without gravity, superstrength with a thin body (great gravity forces a body with center of mass near the ground), 3d hearing (where not even birds have 3d hearing), laced skeleton with dual heart, multifunctional semi sentient tail and the hability to regen brain damage do not come by with evolution.

a alien like that would live pratically in a asteroid field forest lookalike with great probability of having piercing damage from predators where the chances of survival after a few strikes would be enougth to allow time to be rescued and to regenerate brain damage when nursed.

oh, the predators that attack with spike like weapons would need to have the same strenght that a railgun rifle/cannon.

im pretty sure thats a nearly impossible to find enviroment. she being a genetic coded being also explains CS and S, they where designed to work with the biology they developed for these works.

>>318750

Those things could have evolved as a means to survive micrometeor showers. An environment with high incidence of small rocks from above coming down at enough velocity to punch right through almost anything: you'd develop a skeleton to deflect such projectiles away from vital organs as much as possible (and to absorb impact energy) coupled with regeneration to rebuild the massive damage you do take. Bullet rain, essentially.

Maybe not even micrometeors; perhaps a very geologically active planet, with enough volcanic activity to launch large amounts of lava spray to fall as rocks from high altitude. Assuming space travel is common, such a probably-young world could get enough of a headstart on evolution from the leavings of visiting species to have developed a creature like Penji while still having the environment that would lead to her.

And then the massive strength and internal plates are for withstanding earthquakes and avalanches, and the claws and foot-hands for navigating rough terrain.

>>318748
Considering the time frame gene-modding may not be that hard anymore.

If you ask me she's an alien that has ALSO been enhanced.

>>318752

And, then, the ears and tails are for navigating in darkness when the sun is blocked out by ash, with the tails basically being like whiskers on your butt, while also being convenient for holding objects while you're climbing. Useful for underground, too; on such a world, you might get food cycles that begin with geothermal energy instead of the sun.

You can use science to justify anything if you try hard enough!

(You know with all this science I'd kind of like to see what a male of penji's species looks like, just to see if there's any kickass gender dimorphism, like males having the tails all up their spine for extra carrying capacity or something.)

ohai we are back with backstabbing subjects.

there are 3 "ayleens" in the ship that we know of. one is missing but pen and tazertits mitzi require a counter supress to get supapower.

the discussion should be in either cooperating and sharing the CS or try to be on top to keep the CS to us.

mitzi also claims to be hyooman. we havent really gone too deep into it, the background on everyone is missing.

>>318867
Yes she is.

>>318867
THE SEXY ADVENTURES OF SURROUND SOUND AND TAZERTITS!

It was a dead end. They had remotely sealed the doors. She banged her fist against it and slid to her knees, her body growing weaker with every passing second. The poison was taking effect. It was only a matter of time before she lost consciousness. "This is it." she thought as she turned to face her pursuer, a towering mass of steel. She leveled the gun at the monstrosity but couldn't even line up the sights anymore. All her years of pain and suffering flashed through her head in only a few seconds. "I'm not going back.". Holding the gun in both hands to steady her weakening muscles, she brought the barrel under her chin and pulled the trigger. A loud bang, her body jerked and then went limp, a shower of blood and bits sprayed onto the ceiling. The gun clattered to the floor as she slumped over sideways, an ever widening pool of blood forming on the floor around her head. The robot paused as if unsure of what to do. It cautiously made its way over to the body that lay on the ground. It gripped the neck with one of its 4 metal claws and brought her up to the main sensor cluster. An armor panel on the torso opened up and several axillary arms fanned out and started poking and prodding, feeling and touching. No breathing. No pulse. Severe damage to the brain and skull. It gently lay her body back down and turned and headed off to the maintenance bay leaving tracks of blood behind it.

>>318960
wat

>>318960
(I made some grammar and spelling corrections to your story. I made sure not to do anything that would change the story.)

It's a dead end.

The doors are sealed, banging her pelvis against them had done nothing. The chemical they put in her body causes her muscles to grow weaker as a warmth rushes over the surface of her skin. It wont be long until she faints, her mind is already slipping.

She sits on the flour, her back against the wall. Her eyes are closed, she can feel it coming, the vibrations through the ground washing over her body. She holds the gun as tightly as she can slowly running the back of it up an down the front of her body. She needs to feel something real, she doesn't want to loose her touch with the world.

"I won't let you make me dream again. My mind is free. This is real."

The metal beast's vibrations grow more powerful it is almost next to her. The vibrations threaten to steal her touch with reality, covering her body with an ambiguous dreamlike feeling.

No floor pressing against her butt, no door holding her back. No gun sliding over her from between her legs to her neck.

It stopped, there are no vibrations. She could feel everything touching her now. Her mind can still focus even though she has trouble moving the gun which keeps sliding slower. Moving it up her stomach is slow, so she pressed harder. She feels wont be able to slid it back down again. She can feel the front an rear sight on either end of the now warm barrel. With great effort it slides gradually over her chest then up her neck.

Suddenly the gun digs into the front of her neck making it hard to breath. A metal claw gripping her neck pulls her off the ground towards its towering body. The gun pushing into her neck would be impossible to move any further. She can feel the claw. It is real but she doesn't want it. The claw threatens to take away her reality. The chemical threatens to stop her from knowing her reality.

She pulls the trigger, squeezing with the last of her strength. A piercing sound and a flash of feeling run through her body. The the last little bit of reality she could steal for herself.

>>319031
>>318960
Is there any context that makes this less creepy and stupid?
Or is it just random mental diarrhea?

>>319033
>context

The quest whose title is seen above. Possibly.

>mental diarrhea

Depends on wether that's a word for fanfiction or not.

>>/quest/113592

I think you're confusing 'bullet-resistant' for simply 'holy shit durable', good sir or madam.

>>319043

Bullet-resistant is a subsection of holy-shit-durable.

>Depends on wether that's a word for fanfiction or not.
It is.

Sorry for the lack of updates. I've been traveling and am also sick.

>>319193
And poor and hungry. Send help!

Test Pattern 2010/01/21(Thu)22:08 No. 9491 ID: ec4966
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I drew it this way first and then changed it.

From what I can guess, penji was once a scientist but had to be putdown due to her schizophrenia and anger issues.

Appropriate image macros:

"FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"
"MY BRAIN IS FULL OF FUCK"
"TRIPPIN' BALLS MAN"
"GOD...FUCKING...DAMMIT!"

>>319293
WHY DID YOU POST THAT

Ha HA. Alien.

Now we have lot to look forward to! Technology, culture, all that jazz. Extraterrestrial jazz. With all those ears they probably have some good musicians.

>>319291
NO... She can't be related to the demon... I JUST GOT OVER THE NIGHTMARES OF THOSE EYES... NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous 2010/02/10(Wed)20:57 No. 10530 ID: 632862
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C IS FOR COOKIE, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR PENJI

Test drew that, btw, I'm just postin' it.

Anonymous 2010/02/12(Fri)15:04 No. 10581 ID: 67c611
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Good god that is a long tongue. You could tickle the inside of Mitzi's uterus.

Test. Keep doing what you are doing. Don't get discouraged. If we had problems how the quest was run we wouldn't be participating.

Test Pattern, don't ever doubt your awesome.

Also, a little something for the paranoids, anyone else notice that there's no sign of bodies being moved? Anywhere? Plus, blood in autopsy sink.

*cue X-Files theme*

Guys guys guys, I just found the best melee weapon for Penji. I was thinking how Penji's strength would be complemented by a knife of some sort. She would be able to cut through people's rib cages (more of breaking than cutting). Then I realized that the knife would break after a few kills with this kind of stress on it. Also it would be bad against ceramic body armor which tier 1 guards would be equipped with. So then I started brainstorming. A baseball bat came to mind but that would snap across the first face she hit with it. So then a steel baseball bat came to mind. That would be ok, but lets make it longer. Steel pipe. But the steel pipe would break just as easily as the bat taking Penji's strength into account. So then I arrived at a solid steel rod. 1" wide, 3' long, solid steel.

Even with full armor if she hit a guard in the head it would break his neck. In the leg, that would break. Arms too. And the chest would break a few ribs and make an easy follow up swing. With armored robots targeting the weapons and joints would cripple it quickly. Bending gun barrels. Smashing treads and limbs.

>>320649
I think a steel warhammer with a lead core would work better. Especially if it has a pick side as well.

She just has to recall the secrets of the Panzerkunst.
Then she won't need any stupid melee weapons.

>>320649
>So then I arrived at a solid steel rod. 1" wide, 3' long, solid steel.
Solid reasoning. Guess we'll keep an eye out for structural elements like that. Perhaps the crowbar will suffice for now?

>>320651
>Panzerkunst
Let's wheel out the ol' wikipedia machine
>Geschoss Schlag (also written Geschoß Schlag) – "Missile Blow". A faster-than-sound punch that adds a sonic boom-effect to the impact, delivering more force to the strike.
Man, what?

>>320658
I was thinking of using one of the gun barrels from Hugs. Or the barrel to the small gun in back access. Or the coilgun barrel.

Nothing else I've seen from the archives is durable enough to be cracked over the helmet of guards and not break.

Also I'm taking a page out of Halo and I suggest we be a camping bastard. It's a legitimate strategy.

Secondary senses are going to be god tier for setting up ambushes and staying out of sight.

I think a good way to handle the time between current and when Mitzi is done with the door would be to say "Ok, you did all that stuff and the door is open with x hours left." within reason.

>>320710
>Or the barrel to the small gun in back access.
Don't forget the larger one. Or is that the one you meant? There's a dart launcher and a more normal automatic projectile weapon.

>>320711
Gun barrels in general make good clubs. So try both and see which she likes better.

Crowbar sounds like a good idea for a melee weapon. It's right with us and we don't have to get slowed down carrying more stuff.
It might not have quite the leverage of a three foot LEAD PIPE, if I recall it was a bit shorter. Maybe a foot and a half, maybe two feet long?

Hey guys, for the complicated idea of bloodletting Penji to clear out the micromachines, this is probably a better place for discussing that. Not to be snarky or anything.
My two cents: It's an overly complex idea that could leave us all too vulnerable.
The micromachines haven't seemingly done anything whatsoever yet, so they might not be a high priority just yet.

>>320776
Disposing of the machines is secondary to the ACTUAL goal of getting the Suppress out of her system.
We know from Mitzy's bite that it's retained in the blood stream, which makes bleeding one way to get it out of Penji's system.
Alone that information is fairly useless, but if Penji can somehow replace the lost blood then it's suddenly the fastest method of getting the Suppress out of her system.

Naturally, once she starts replenishing her blood stores the relative saturation of Suppress will drop and her regeneration powers will become less and less restricted.

>>320786
Maybe it's not just in the blood? She didn't just drink the blood, she bit into Penji. Maybe some is stored in Penji's flesh or something I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

Test Pattern 2010/02/20(Sat)20:00 No. 10993 ID: cfad4e
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>barf out all blood and grow new blood
You guys need to restrict your plans, at least for the time being, to things that can happen in minutes or hours, not days or weeks.

>>320793
She healed severe surface burns in under an hour without giving it focus and rebuilt one of her hearts in a slightly longer period of time.

Humans can't heal that kind of cardiac damage at all, and burns like those would take WEEKS to repair. However, humans recover from a non-traumatic loss of 0.25L in about half an hour, and a 0.5L loss in a few hours.

Even in a highly suboptimal scenario she would STILL be breaking even long before anybody showed up.

If she can't do it fast enough to make 'flushing' an option then it's off the table.
That's why it's vital to find out how fast she thinks she can restock blood, and finding out is as quick and easy as having her mind-poke it.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/02/20(Sat)20:36 No. 10995 ID: a85626
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>>320794

Finding out, fine. But don't expect it to be possible. That would really mess up Test Patterns level ups.

Alternatively Test Pattern, you could let this slide and give up entirely on CS as a "level up" item, simply by producing another rare consumable item we desperately need to find lots of!

>>320793
Now I want a Murder Burger Quest.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/02/20(Sat)20:38 No. 10997 ID: a85626
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>>320795

Oooh, suggestion for that

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>>320795
Pfft, naw. Just make the CS injectors rarer to compensate and have Mitzy become more demanding about getting her share. Or continue as planned, since it's kinda pointless to counterbalance unexpected insights and decisions.

Also, the law of diminishing returns kicks in pretty fast since all the blood replenished mixes in with the contaminated blood and dilutes it. That's the point, but it means that further bleed-outs are going to have less and less suppress per volume. That's why we want to bleed-out as much as is safe BEFORE starting to restock the blood.

TL;DR: This gives a very quick boost in 'level', but she still needs CS after that.

I don't see any reason to assume that Suppress isn't fat-soluble, thunder-thighs.

Alternately, perhaps it builds up in the bone marrow or synaptic gaps, or binds with the mitochondria, or interferes from within the cell membrane in any number of ways. You can't cure mercury poisoning by doing a full-body blood transfusion, for instance.

Anyway, it's certainly an interesting line of experimentation and well worth trying at some point when we have a week to spend removing organs one at a time to find the root of the problem.

I say for the sake of game mechanics that bloodletting be disallowed. Tiny bit of railroading to preserve the overall integrity of the quest. Invisible walls are sometimes the only solution to prevent game breaking. Necessary evil etc.

Damn good idea though.

About the crowbar. If we use it as a melee weapon we are going to bend that thing over someone's head and ruin it. Like I said with her strength she would snap a baseball bat on the first hit. Sword blades and warhammer shafts would break. Normal melee weapons are too fragile. Hence 1 inch wide solid steel.

>She healed severe surface burns in under an hour without giving it focus and rebuilt one of her hearts in a slightly longer period of time.
They're not fully healed, and she did give it a focus.

Current distribution is:
1x Surface damage and Maintenance
1x Microbots
1x Secondary Senses

As for the bloodletting thing, it probably would get rid of some of the Suppress. Penji can try it if a majority wants it. There's no invisible wall, but no guarantees that it's a good idea.

>>320815
That's not focus since it was competing with other tasks for resources.
Also, she's still mostly healed, which takes a very long time for widespread surface burns.

>>320814
It would be kinda odd to put up invisible walls. This is interactive fiction, not a video game. There aren't any saves to load, or mulligans, or reset buttons.
If we screw up then Penji dies and that's just how the the story ends. It's not malice, just the logical result of the actions we proposed.

Why, then, should our viable options be restricted to avoid breaking the 'game'?

>>320811
Mitzy said Penji tastes like Suppress, which strongly suggests that the a goodly portion of the Suppress remains in the bloodstream.

>>320816

No one enjoys themselves if we make a stupid decision and the game just ends. It'd just make the readers and the author feel bad! Negative consequences are fine, they heighten the experience as much as positive ones, but the aim of the whole exercise is to be enjoyable.

So, gaining an advantage in the "game" should not be allowed if it would detract from that goal. Mostly, now, it is up to the quest author to come up with ways to allow freedom without such invisible walls, but if that can't be done then they are an inferior but viable alternative.

I think some people consider that blood idea as way cleverer than it actually is.
What id the Suppress is in her bone marrow and the freshly regenerated blood just has it all the same? What then?

He wouldn't even really need to explain why cause the characters in the quest don't really understand all the scientific details.

>>320822
You know what we call self-replicating chemical reactions?

LIFE.

>>320823

Well, not fire.

>>320822
If that's true then Suppress works like CANCER.
Let's assume she doesn't have crippling diseases and that she's merely saturated with Suppress from being positively pickled with the stuff.
Jabbing her with more C-S is a better idea than bleeding all over the place.
Assumably it neutralizes Suppress into a, by human and Tozol standard physiology, harmless substance which makes C-S a both faster AND safer process than blood-letting.
I'm just wondering just when Penji might need to use a bathroom, she's got a lot of gunk in her to get out... If Test Pattern makes biological imperatives a part of the quest, well...
I doubt we want to evict the guard from the restroom on this side of Decon. So messy.

>>320825
I don't think we need to discuss the idea anymore, actually.
It's a risk either way, so we should just lay out the idea for Penji and let her decide.

>>320825

But the only other bathroom is on the other side of ...shit.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/02/21(Sun)16:10 No. 11033 ID: a85626
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>>320825

gottagogottagogottagogottago

>>320833
Even though I don't know the reference, which I believe is to some TV advert, that made my morning. Thanks!

>>/quest/143438

Apparantly, we do.

I think disabling the bot is top priority. Then charging or otherwise closing with the people out there. (Are they really just guards?) It's imperative that we not kill anyone at this point, not until we learn more about what consequences that might have. It's not that I care for their life or anything, but I don't want to turn this into a manhunt, or, tozolhunt as it were. They'll be after her enough anyway without her killing their mens. Initially I thought getting captured would be preferable to terminally disabling them, especially if this lab is the worst that they can do, but... they've already demonstrated themselves willing and able to torture innocent people so I think we would be better off killing them than being captured.

But if we don't get captured then how can we engineer our daring escape?

I think it will be for the best if we assume that the people operating that robot are trained guards, or possibly even military and decidedly not the scientists and doctors running the show here.
Whoever they are, they're most likely not the ones who subjected Mitzi to her... enhancements and probably not the ones who blasted our dear Penji's head open like a melon.
Anyone responsible for Penji's troubles is probably dead or retired by now.
She has been pickled for the last 40 or so years after all.

Aside from the quest, I loved to see people's opinions on the matter, with people
vouching for kill'em'all and others going for attempts of diplomacy.
Nonetheless, either strategy will most likely prove most entertaining.

Keep up the great work, Test! And thumbs up to you other suggesters!

Had a relatively long post in progress about the not-yet-firefight that has been rendered obsolete. A few questions I've got at this point:

Why are the guards already here?

Where exactly has Mitzi's terrifying mutant brother vanished to?

How did he escape HS-3 in the first place, and why didn't he take his sister with him?

>>321992
They said they would show up "within six hours" something like three hours ago; we don't know; we don't know; we don't know.

In order, even.

>>321992
Simple, the guards were attempting to pacify the situation throughout the entire facility.
They were merely going to pop open the massive sealed doors one by one and deal with each situation as it arises.
HS3 was apparently later on the list.

Which leaves us to wonder, just what other things were held here? Something MORE dangerous than Mitzi's brother seems to be?

As for why he left his sister behind... maybe it was easier that way. Maybe he didn't want her to see the killing. Could be he was going to return to her once the situation had blown over, disguised as one of the rank and file.

If we assume that it was Mitzi's brother that set up the Decon hallway like that, it's probable that he escaped earlier.
Boss fight anyone? :D

>>/quest/144900
If you guys could respond to other suggestions, for disagreement or discussion, by crosslinking (like I just did) and posting in questdis, rather than in the quest thread, I'd greatly appreciate it.

You never shoot to maim. If you're going to shoot something, be prepared to kill it. Always aim for center mass, that's basic firearms training.

>>322099
actualy some ammo types are small enought to ensure that the target would survive badly if he had only some rounds on him. 5.56 is deadly as any rifle bullet, but just a few in the torso can make someone literally stop to worry with his life, even if he had body armor.

some wars were gained because of the logistics needed to care for the wounded was greater that the one to care for the dead. also intel gathering = high rank officers made prisioners. dead men tells no tales.

>>322095
whoopsie.

>>/quest/145236

>> rockets, smartbombs, mines, railguns, live radioactive ammo.

RULE #1 NEVER GIVE THE GM IDEAS

...that way they can't take credit. :)

Ideas I got. I just don't know how to execute them sometimes.

On that note, sometimes one idea has more votes than another, often by a fairly small margin. Sometimes, the less popular idea would be more interesting, or it's what the character would be more inclined towards. I generally take the more popular option, but sometimes it feels a bit too 'winner take all,' in the electoral sense. On the other hand, if I take a less popular suggestion, that feels like railroading.

What do you guys think? (Acknowledging the irony in putting the question to vote.)

>>322190
Always take the smartest suggestion. Penji's insane, not retarded.

yes. smart ideas are best. it would also make the idea of 'reason with the guys under orders to kill us' less prevalent.

You know, most sites like this have high explosives in the basement in case of a Critical Containment Failure.

You know.

Like this.

Test Pattern 2010/03/11(Thu)21:26 No. 12396 ID: cfad4e
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>smart ideas are best
It'd be easy for me to spot the best option. I'm the GM. But this is more more about how much of a say the character should have, with their IC thought process.

If there's a hefty majority, I generally go with it, and if there's multiple, non-exclusive actions, I try to combine them. This is more about cases of, say, five vs seven in favor of mutually exclusive choices.

that's what i thought you ment. and i still stand. less 'talk to the guys with guns who want to kill us' the better.

>>322196
WWPD?

Just ask yourself what Penji would be more likely to do herself.

>>322196

The name for anon on /quest/ is called Suggestion for a reason. We can suggest all sorts of courses of action, vote on them, accuse you of railroading and everything, but you are the one who draws the next panel. I can understand you want to involve us in that, and I appreciate the involvement very much, but neither I nor you can change the fact that you do have final say in what you draw.

>>322203
We are after all the insane voices in Penji's fuzzy little head. We've made her do everything from hugging a scared post-human test subject
to raiding a vending machine and shooting soldiers named Eugene in the face.

I think that following suggestions more in line with the character feels appropriate. We're following Penji as much as guiding her.
I doubt we could make her do something that goes completely against her programming, though
possibly things that she might not otherwise have thought of.

That's my two cents at least.

Personally I'd say the more "in-character" option is probably better, if the votes are about split and the options are mutually exclusive.

Of course you could always attempt to influence things by having Penji (or, in a general circumstance, whichever character) offer her (their) comments on whatever's been proposed... but you pretty much do this anyway.

well you could continue to compromise. the idea of promising mitzi a kiss after all of this was very implied lesbianese great!

the thought of someone actualy getting the right answer to the eugene demoman problem was somewhat good for penji because there where no real discussion or false positives on the matter. what if a dude near the corridor needed to repair or had a panic attack? he could be eugene as well. we would have no real way to discern the solution and penji would be toast.

The more we get hit, the more time we have to waste healing. That time could have been spent making Penji stronger. Each injury is a huge setback to her. We have to minimize the damage she takes, and that means taking option less likely to get her hurt. No charging into a hailstorm of rifle and MG fire.

Test Pattern 2010/03/12(Fri)11:37 No. 12448 ID: cfad4e
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>We have to minimize the damage she takes, and that means taking option less likely to get her hurt.
The safest option was to stay in the tube.

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>>322248
...I'm now Imagining penji as a furry Chryssalid.

>>322248
So we got enough TU for 3 Psiamp tries... we did bring that right?

Still 90 TU is a nice amount of time to have

>>322248
More like pick off 2 guys from behind our cover instead of charging across the room to melee 4 guys who have ample time to fire at us with AP rifles and an LMG.

Doing silly things like that is going to put Penji in a world of hurt and cripple her physical development because she has to waste so much time healing.

>>322248

There's no Counter-Suppress in the tube.

Voting for the "kill everyone policy".

Wait until we are NOT in a firefight

I vote kill when fired upon. Let's not murder everything, especially not useful things.

I am voting for a "Only kill direct threats" policy. People are far more likely to run away instead of fighting if the options are "Fight and die or run and live" instead of "Fight and die or run and die".
Besides, living people can provide useful information like CS locations and door passcodes, as well as be used for social engineering.
Besides, we can always either kill them later, or tie them up, break their thumbs, and leave them in the rescue position. Either one prevents them from being a threat again.

Don't kill everyone. Penji is nice. ;.;

yes, penji is nice, but right now it's a kill or be killed situation.

She has to heal instead of upgrade. We took serious damage. We have 2-5 craters in our chestplates. It requires time to heal. Time that could have been spent upgrading primary senses and speed. We won't be as strong as we would have been had we not been shot. That price was paid to get a few extra kills on troops that were already retreating, an LMG, some equipment we already have enough of, and a slightly wounded prisoner. The information he provides will determine whether or not it was worth it. That being an unknown makes the trade even more risky. The alternative to this trade would have been to stay in cover and kill 2 extra guys. We would not be additionally wounded at all. We would not have an LMG or a prisoner, but we would be much further along the upgrade path upon our next encounter. And being stronger in the next encounter means we are less likely to get injured and will then be in an even better position to continue upgrading instead of healing.

I considered as much, myself, but keeping in mind that first contact was with bullets we've basically committed ourselves to fighting our way out.
Leaving a few alive to retreat back to whatever command post they've set up would allow them intel on Penji, however small.
As it is, we need every advantage we can get and as long as they only know that we took out an entire group of them, despite their apparent advantage, we'll be better off.
Leaving no one to report back is in our best interests.

Totallynotsamefag!!V1AJL5LzHl 2010/03/13(Sat)23:55 No. 12531 ID: 37ab54
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>>322328

Agreed on the "Only killing direct threats", with the exception of robots.

They are unholy killing machines that must be exterminated the moment one is seen.

They're on orders to shoot on sight, apparently. That means it's bad for our health not to do the same. We can yell at them all we want but I don't think they're gonna listen.

why is it almost no one in here is able to be at a happy medium between diplomacy and killing?

diplomacy when we can, kill when we have to. that's it, that's how you handle stuff not 'kill everything' or 'peace for everyone'

I'm pretty sure gyrocs are rockets that have some kind of gyroscope in them to keep the rocket's navigational whatchamacallit from spinning, so you don't have to account for the spin when programming its course. Is that about right?

>>/quest/147281

Au contraire. There is karma here. Actions have consequences. Firstly and foremost, how do you know they're an enemy? It would be better if we could make them an ally, instead of just forcing them to be an enemy. Secondly, is our survival in jeopardy right now? Nope. Good old Eugen was the last threat to our future survival and we dealt with him cleanly and quickly. If you think we need to kill everyone else to survive, you obviously know something that Test Pattern hasn't revealed to us yet, because as far as I can tell this operation is not carried out in the public eye.

>>322343
They're talking about this kind of thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

>>147383
Ok lets see if I can make this work and leave Tests quest a little bit less cluttered with moral discussions. They really seem to get alot of that.

Ok I'm not against torture on any moral grounds. It's just that it's messy, unreliable and damages our hostage. So it's not worth it now. Stripping him down to his underwear is for security reasons, as well as stripping him of some confidence so it might make the interogation easier.

Making him into a mutated abomination is for two reasons. One it's funny. Two it forces him to help us unless he feels like becoming a test subject or being killed by his former mates. Figuring out the process would also give us information that might let us figure out what Penji is and what was done at the facility.

Ok that didn't work as planned. Still I hope you get that I'm referring to >>/quest/147383.

Are aliens and non-humans bound by the Geneva Convention, I wonder...

So. 67c611.
Why is he so mad.

>>322388
He's a furry

>>/quest/147569
Good plan. But I think we should keep him alive, we can use him as a hostage, trap disarmer and meat shield. Or if we're stuck there for a very long time he can be emergancy food.

I'm also starting to suspect that Penjis blood without alot of suppress in it might be what they used to induce mutations in Mitzi and her brother. I would like to check out that hypothesis later so a test subject would be good to have.

>>322412
so the guard will be our menchi?

Buncha jerks in this quest. Tryin' to kill everything, not treating prisoners right.

The whole "Smoothbores and Gyrocs" is probably just "Oh shit we need artillery!"

>>322413
Possibly. I have no idea what a Menchi is, but if that means all purpose expendable guy then sure.

>>322415
They hardly worried about their prisoners health earlier. If they're not going to follow the rules then the rules can go fuck themselves. They could do that anyway. Anything that stands in the way of getting Penji out alive can go fuck itself.

Nequ!3LrT5NRVks 2010/03/14(Sun)18:02 No. 12621 ID: 21bb58
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>>322415
>Tryin' to kill everything, not treating prisoners right.

We're not supposed to kill everything?

>>322421
Well, yeah, but we don't have to be dicks about it.

>>322461
But being a dick about it is part of what makes it all so funny.

>>322470
Well, there's funny dickery and asshole dickery.

We're starting to veer onto Asshole Avenue right now.

We must find creative ways to kill people, yo.

Neck snapping is easy, simple, clean, relatively quiet, and a 99.999% chance of a kill.

So now that Penji has been in a firefight and has a basis for comparison, just what is her speed / accuracy advantage compared to the soldiers?

Are we talking highly trained soldier, or Neo in the Matrix? Likewise, how fast can she run?

She can beat a human in a sprint, but not by a wide margin. Not without upgrading her speed, in any case.

In the stress of combat, people who can easily and rapidly hit targets during practice find themselves spraying wildly. Penji doesn't share this reflex, and can pop up from cover to take aimed shots despite stress and suppressive fire.

So, more like Trinity or Morpheus, or Neo before he became The One.

so can she jump up in front of someone, freeze time, spin the camera around, and then kick them?

anyway. after healing i guess working on them legs would be good, make her go fast as hell.

>>322507
Would that be speciically leg muscles or her entire body muscleature? Giving her a better ability to rip and tear is something I would like to see. Then no doors will be able to stand in our way.

I think he said before that it's more speed and not really any additional strength. I think this would help with aiming and firing a weapon. Sight might too.

>so can she jump up in front of someone, freeze time, spin the camera around, and then kick them?
That would involve drawing the same thing from multiple angles without fucking up, so no.
>Would that be speciically leg muscles or her entire body muscleature?
All of her.
>I think this would help with aiming and firing a weapon. Sight might too.
It won't help her aim all that much better. It doesn't exactly take her a long time to move the gun around, at least at range. Close-in, it'll definitely make her more lethal, with either firearms or melee strikes.
Sight helps her acquire and track targets, and means she isn't at a disadvantage if the lights go out.

>>Insist that they call you Cool Beans. Play up the crazy, nigh-unstoppable experimental test subject angle. Make them go "Wait, what?" at every turn.

Rip off one of the dead guy's heads and use it as a sock puppet during the intro to your next fight. The guards see a severed head come around the corner and say in a really shitty pretend voice "Hey guys, it's me. Don't shoot."

We need to come up with more stuff like this. The intent is to wage psychological warfare on these fucks. We want them to have nightmares and soiled clothing.

>>322514
>>"Hey guys, it's me. Don't shoot."
With a lisp.

i think penji is more a normally okay person... tozol. but is willing to do anything to get out. if killing everyone gets her out, then so be it.

>>/quest/148251

because capturing a person who uses non-lethal force is much harder than one who uses lethal. totally. Who are you kidding dude? They were going to toss the whole base at us in either case since they know it's her simply by the fact she could take down a fully armed and trained squad plus a minitank.

>>322507
Suppose I expected her reaction times to be as much better than a human's as her upper body strength is.

So, how's her internal chemical control? Because next firefight we get into I want her veins pumping the Tozol equivalents of a combination of 50% adrenaline, 50% methamphetamine, and 50% PCP. Should be good for a few minutes of godlike power followed by a horrible crash.

And yes, that is 150%. Penji can handle it; she's a counter-supressing Tozol and a half.

On one hand, I can imagine it would be a good thing ot be paranoid.

Ont he other hand... why the FUCK would they rig their own guys helmets with explosives, on the off chance that someone else might decide to wear it? Has it happened THAT OFTEN that ti would become a major concern?

>>322531
They're guards in a facility that deals in SCIENCE and mutated abominations. For all we know their boss could be sitting a in a swivel chair with a white cat in his lap and the helmetbombs are to make sure no guards disobey.

But yeah that would be pretty farfetched. Still, better safe then sorry when dealing with potentially explosive shit.

Yeah let's get some thunder thighs goin on.

I thought there might be an explosive in a helmet to make sure they don't get mindcontrolled or otherwise compromised by an artifact or research subject.

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>>322514
Well, that was all i needed to read.

>>322514
How does someone manage to come up with stupid shit like that?
Sounds like the first "Chaotic Evil" character of a ten year old.

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>>322544
I'm sorry, what was that?

>>322543
Nice work. I like how the demented smiles match each other but at the same time the head looks so much sadder.

Anyway, what do you people think of the idea of injecting our prisoner with a mix of Penji and Mitzi blood if he turns out to be worthless. Something fun might happen. Or he might just die from alien blood and shit. In either case we will learn something new and it will hopefully be entertaining.

>>322546
I didn't realize Penji was supposed to be a villain.

>>322547
Well a bunch of rather loud individuals decided the Quest is best played as herpa derpa violence and everyone who doesn't want pointless torture and vidya-like mindless killing is some kind of sissified pacifist.

seriously, test pattern, please ignore the guys suggesting insane torture plots. i mean i'm all for shooting guys but this is just retarded.

All I'm saying is to shoot the people who are getting paid to kill us. And anyone else because a witness is a weakness.

If we let this prisoner go he will report back and give the other people trying to kill us information about how we move, how strong we are, what our mood is, the way we talk, what wounds we took, how the wounds affected us, what questions we asked, how we treated Mitzi, what tactics we used in the battle, how accurate our fire is, how fast we are, that we have occasional derp moments, that we are familiar with guns, and what our equipment is.

Giving this kind of information to the enemy makes it easier for them to kill us. Getting killed is bad. So we have to keep them from receiving this information. The only 100% guaranteed way to prevent him from telling them is to kill him.

We don't have the luxury of sympathy or mercy for our enemies. Everything we do to help them, hurts us. Even giving this guy a pack of cookies uses up time we could have spent preparing for the coming battles. Those two extra minutes of prep could be the difference between life and death.

The truth is not always pretty. Some people refuse to see it and those people die.

Torture is stupid because that wastes time we could have spent looking for more CS.

>>322549
seconded. This retarded "debate" killed my Interest in the quest.

>>322547
I see villain as simply a worthless label much like good or eveil and right or wrong. Our goal is to get her out of there, anything that furthers that goal is to me an acceptable course of action.

If our prisoner has no value as a hostage then he becomes a drain on our resources. Simply tossing him into a cell will allow his comrades to retrieve him at a later time and use him against us, so in that case killing him or making him useful in some other way would be the best course of action. Severly crippling him and giving him back to his friends would probably be best. But I don't think that would give us that much in return and would just end up being unnecessary cruelty.

Experimenting on him however would not be unnecessary. It would allow us to gather more information and see more about what we can and can't do. If he dies then we know that raw Penji blood is fatal to humans and that information is something that might be useful in the future. If something else happens then we can analyze that and see how we can turn that into our advantage.

>>322553
unfortunately even if penji blood can mutate things she still has enough suppress in her system that it may not work due to the mutating effect being suppressed. so while your logic is sound you forgot some facts.

Also knowing that Penji blood is lethal when injected into humans does not help us escape this place. It does use time that we could have spent doing something that would help us escape. That course of action is a net loss. Net losses are bad.

>>322556
It gives us another possible weapon. The more ways we have avalible to kill the better. And it should be pretty straighforward to find a syringe and draw some blood. Then we simply inject it into him along with some of Mitzis blood and see what happens.

>>322554
True. Could be better to find some more Counter suppress before we try. I was thinking of adding Mitzis blood into the mixture as well. She has after all already been mutated so her blood might make it work better or something. Anyway, we have a test subject with no voice in the matter and a theory.

Unless we can find some documents on how they did it themselves I say we test out the theory and see what happens if the oppurtunity arises. Hopefully we can learn something useful from it.

>>322557

That's all well and good. But how do we apply our deadly blood that has to be injected into a viable combat strategy? I mean sure we could put it in a syringe and inject it, but how is that faster or more reliable than simply breaking their neck, or shooting them with a gun? Plus we would be loosing our blood that we need for body functions.

what about information warfare? tell him that mitzi is an ex-reasearch, but the higher ups switched her status to 'guinea pig' at the drop of a hat, chances are that's his status now as well because he now knows too much.

>>322552
>seconded. This retarded "debate" killed my Interest in the quest.
I'm sorry to hear that.

She already turned down the whole blood... thing.

>>322547
She isn't, but I've had that drawing for so fucking long.

Anyway, I'm not advocating RIP AND TEAR in the first place, why get angry over an image?

>>322561
posting the pic made it seem like you WERE advocating rip and tear.

>>322561
What? No, I wasn't angry.

People!

Our blood is not a projectile or a toxin to be deployed all willynilly! We need it for transferring oxygen to our tissues! Likewise for Mitzi's blood!

We are not magical fountains of dicknipple mutations!

>>322558
Hmmm, not sure. Would demand a pretty unlikely scenario to get useful. I mainly want to see what would happen if we did it.

>>322575
Not dicknipples no. But Mitzi does have a tentacle arm, she could become a famous japanese movie star with something like that.

But it seems like it won't be happening. So lets just keep our eyes open about information about how the mutation is done.

>>322580
We did find information when Penji was investigating the terminal where we saw Mitzi's autopsy records.
They used a "Valcien-derived retrovirus". A Valcien was some sort of biological construct or robot.
It's likely that this retrovirus simply rewrote Mitzi's DNA in a non-cancerous and non-destructive manner, no small feat.
The question is how tozols, valcien, Penji and this place connect to each other. This Athelhom Impact Event is most likely important to whatever is going on.
Is Penji an alien? Is she an advanced model of bio-engineered soldier, created by humans? Created by aliens, maybe?

Only thing I can be sure of is that we won't get all the answers by shooting our way through everything. Try to avoid murder and torture, guys, humans no likey that!

>>322582
They started it. Still torture is quite unreliable and messy. Murder... can't say I care about how many families Penji destroy by killing guards. If they don't want their guards to die then they can keep them out of our way.

Wait Valcien derived retro-virus shit. I think I just figured out the nanobots. They're the thing that made Penji into what she is. Atleast that's possible if they're also present in Mitzi. In which case they might be the thing that triggers mutations.

But they seem inert now, more knowledge is needed before we can decide how to move forward here. Lets go look for any computers with full access to all of their archives.

>>322583
Penji knew that the nanobots weren't supposed to be there. They were foreign to her.

I'm pretty goddamn sure that they're hooked up to that remote control device thingy we found.

>>322589
Hmm, that might be true. Still it's an interesting thought. But without any more information we can't really go much further in our speculations. We need to either find records or someone who worked directly on the project.

I guess we could ask the prisoner about the Athelthom impact event. If the big explosion is related to that thing then people should have heard about it.

Well, Mitzi mentioned this Athelhom Impact Event. Maybe we could ask her? She seemed to be mildly nerdy before they turned her into a... whatever she is now. She seemed to have an inkling as to what the hell Penji was. Be it a space alien or a secret project.

they may have not started it. remember we have no long term memory, as far as we know penji isnt a transhuman thingie, its a survivor from a attack force send to kill all humans.

I've got a good idea on how to settle the "what to do with the guard" debate. Give him to Mitzi and say "Do whatever you want to him.".

A question directly to Penji: "What do you usually do with PoW's?"

I just had the mental image of Penji as a magician with Mitzi as the assistant doing the saw a box in half thing with the guard.

Let's name the guard Steve. Everyone likes the name Steve.

>>322598
Wow, I've never seen footage of anyone dying before... Good thing Penji has metal bones, eh?

>>322598
Strange that there is no blood. The guy seems to get shot in the head as well as the arm and yet there is no blood.

Penjis reinforced bones seem to stop that from happening. We know she can take a rifle bullet to the forehead without getting any slower. But staying in cover is preferable to finding out just how bullet resistant she is. Two good basic rules for firefights are to never expose yourself for more than 3 seconds and never use the same firing position twice in a row. If we stick to that we should be able to make sure that Penji doesn't get shot anymore. They're not perfect though so a lucky shot might still get her. So it's a good thing we now have some body armor to improve her bullet resistance.

I mean taking hits. Any hits are bad hits. Penji has to heal every time she is shot. We can avoid that by hiding behind shit. Why do you think the military stresses cover so much? It stops the bullets from hitting you. And even if the rounds go through what we are hiding behind, they slow down and do less damage. And the enemy can't see us so they can't target. All they can do is spray randomly at whatever we are hiding behind. That means we get hit with a lot fewer shots. These are basic concepts of fighting with and against guns. This is important stuff and it's so simple.

cover = not getting shot
not getting shot = good
cover = good

getting shot = having to heal
having to heal = no upgrades
getting shot = no upgrades

>>322617
Hey I was agreeing with you. I was trying to give people pointers to keep in mind for fire fights. If we had someone else on Penjis side with some basic military training then we could start setting up basic infantry tactics. But with only Penji that stuff doesn't really work.

Besides that I was just pointing out that even with cover you can get shot in firefights. The fact that Penji will survive that though is a great advantage, and with some extra body armor she will take even less damage. Normally it's over if you catch an assault rifle bullet or two with your torso.

The 3 second rule is also good to keep in mind when it comes to advancing or switching cover.

if we do get access to direct control of penji's glandular system we could conceivably produce counter-suppress in our own body.

Test, you are the most skilled questmaker on the board at making villains seem like decent people.

>>322629
>if we do get access to direct control of penji's glandular system we could conceivably produce aphrodisiacs in our own body.

FTFY

>>322633
I'm pretty sure Test approaches villains as he approaches his other characters; individuals with motivations, rather than them being outright "evil".
Even the headcase Shadran in After Quest had genuine reasons for doing what she did.
At least, that's how I think. And I highly approve of the method.

>>322643
Indeed. I found Shadran to be oddly likable despite her being a Cold psychopath. Of course, the fact that she was a Innocent victim of a war-crime, as opposed to being a Violent brute like Goshen, or an sadistic slaver like Kyaos may have something to do with it.

I want to point out that Penji's not really the paragon of ethics and morality here, she killed several humans in cold blood after quite literally ambushing them.
Don't forget that she opened fire first; it does not matter that it was against a robot, she showed hostile intent first. She also kept running after being ordered to stand down.
The entire reason the guards, marines, whatever, opened fire on us is because we opened fire on them first.
By now Penji's gotten no less than three chances to avoid immediate hostilities.
Of course, fighting might just be part of her very being, by what we've seen.

I think that, at least, we should give this Operator the benefit of the doubt for now
and avoid more killing for the immediate future.
It'll likely end up with Penji in a jar again.
Of course if they ambush or trick us back, I'm all for ensuring our survival.

>>/quest/149193
Moving this over here to reduce cluttering in the quest thread.

I very much suggested firing upon the guards that fired on us first. I'm still around to suggest.

My suggestion is that we get out of that room. We get Mitzi to open the door to HS2, gear up and go in there while bringing our prisoner along with us. I'm sure we can find something useful to do with him. We're talking on a wireless radio at the moment so we can bring that along and keep talking while moving.

Medics are free to tend to their people if they can get in once we have left. They are however not welcome in the room for as long as we're there. Taking chances on them smuggling someone in with a weapon designed to take us out might be acceptable if we had more numbers on our side. Right now we don't so it's game over after the enemy gets lucky once.

>>/quest/149152

Hey don't blame me. I said not to pick up that phone.

Most voices comfortable in battle aren't comfortable out, and vice versa.

>>/quest/149193

>> This is one of the many reasons why I tend to hold violence in reserve; most of the people who put violence near the start of their tactical tree

Come on man. First we suggested to reason with them. Then we suggested to find more about them. Then we suggested to find an alternative escape route (there is none). Then we (well some) suggested to sneak out before they knew we were there. Then we suggested to negotiate with them, without surrendering. Then we suggested that they'd be more cooperative if you disabled their bot, non-violently. Then we used the bot as a bullet shield and once again tried to convince them to calm the fuck down.

Then one of them shot Penji, in the fucking head.

I don't know about you, but I think at this point we're pretty far down your "tactical tree" and don't have many options left. We're not going back in the tube. We have a highly armored death trap of a lab behind us in which we'll be sitting ducks, and we can't open the door again. We have highly aggressive trained soldiers in futuristic body armor before us, shooting Penji. If there was any way to hide or sidestep these soldiers I would have suggested it. In fact I expressly mentioned it's direly important we get to a place that they don't have a floor plan to. Right now we're stuck on a railroad of doom with armored walls on all sides probably deep underground and hallways of death in front of us. I THINK KILLING A FEW MENS IS NOT UNACCEPTABLE GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION.

Seriously, what the fuck should we have done? Thrown our gun down and just trusted that Eugen wouldn't have bombed us to the 7th Heaven? What do we do now? Berating armchair soldiers is well and good, but suggest something to do already!

Is there a possibility the facility has multiple exits? Or say, I dunno, rearranges every two days or so to disorient the people inside so they can't get out. They were pretty insistent on it being impossible to get out, despite the fact those soldiers got in.

Well, this big area the party's in right now seems to have four exits, three of which marked HS1 through HS3.
HS3 is where we woke up, and Alpha team, with poor Eugen, came through the door to the right.
When exiting HS3, the door to HS2 is on the left and HS1 is straight across. Unless the right exit is HS4, it's the way out. Hopefully.
Should we try to inspect the other labs, or go straight for the exit? That's the second, important, order of business after getting something useful out of Operator.

>>322657
if we ever get a soft side on the commander, we should get you to make a speech like that.

>>322658
if it is a heavily fortified underground facility id say it could have 2 exits if we get lucky and the air recycling happens with ACs in the outside. cue a nuke in the botton to wipe everything real easy.

if it is a space station we have so many exists, we dont want them. cue a nuke in the side to both explode us and trhow us into the sun.

if it is a cube-like building, we are fucked. cue a cube that is a nuke.

>>322655
this effectively gives them grounds while we still have to fight for grounds. id go with it if we can ask them to open HS1 or 2. also take in consideration, they wont let us out at any point willing, but they have mitzi's brother around, wich they also want arrested or worse.

im quite worried with the fact that they want to waste so many soldiers to catch us. they dont want us dead, they want us alive at the cost of as many as it takes. problem is, if this was supposed to be secret they cant support it thus will nuke us, if it isnt then we are a known enemy and whatever purpose we could have with leaving would be worthless.

>>322665
Holding ground is pretty worthless for us right now though.

If we simply stay and try to hold our ground then they will manage to overwhelm us eventually and then it's over. We have to stay mobile so that they can't decide when and where to strike but instead have to defend everywhere.

But letting any of them into the same room we're in is not something I would recommend. Medics are free to get in after we have left. Provided they can move the robot themselves.

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>>/quest/149269

>>322668
i actualy mean moral ground. i woulnt ask for passage to HS1~3 if we werent to use it.

Anonymous 2010/03/23(Tue)07:48 No. 13075 ID: 67c611
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>>/quest/151084
sorry should have posted that post in here now that I think about it. If the mods could move that and the replies to here I'd appreciate it.

>>322875
HMGs are heavy mostly. we should not consider killing everything and looting because penji is going to get encumbered real easy. we survived the shield bot because we could outrun its tracking, what if we find one with guided rockets or a jackhammer?

>>322875
Yes the HMG would chew through human bodies and mechs. But it would also have quite a limited ammunition supply. And they have had some 60 years to do research on Penji and come up with countermeasures. All they need is one lucky hit and she will be down and they likely have enough bodies to get that one hit.

Then there is the fact of demolitions and traps. If we give them one hour to set something up I'm willing to bet they would have the only exit wired with a shitload of explosives. Once Penji sticks her adorable fuzzy butt far enough in there they will trigger it and reduce her to bits buried in rubble.

>>322879
I know what HMG does to bodies.

It doesn't do shit against traps however. If we give them an hour to set up while we get the HMG then I don't think we're going to get out of there. Not unless they're so stupid they have to be reminded how to breath.

>>322879
...yupostdisimg

I gotta apologize. My last IC post breaks my rule for post length by a wide margin. Feeling godawful lately, but determined to make things go.

Also: I'd appreciate if people would put most of their commentary and arguing in this thread. At the very least, it's bad form to post pictures in quest threads. (Unless they're really funny/appropriate or you drew them yourself)

>>/quest/151203
Eh, Mercer's more impressive abilities come from being a video game character. (Running up a building without the force of his steps pushing him away from it, anything he touches suddenly having zero weight and inertia, thrown objects regaining said inertia after being released, then magically guiding themselves to their target mid-flight, double-jump, etc)

There is one gamebreaker that would stop Penji from ever escaping. Put a 20 000 lb bomb up against the doorway out of LoS. Detonate it when she comes out.

This is impossible to beat. I don't think Test would do that because the whole rest of the quest would be pointless. They can already set this up at the exit. There is no way to stop it from being set up. If Test was going to have them do it they already would have. So if he allows it we are fucked immediately. That's why I don't think he'd do that coming out of HS3. There is no point in worrying about traps.

I'll simplify that
If they


.............well fuck we left before I could post this. We still don't know what smoothbores and gyrocs are. I am reasonably sure that an HMG can handle them, whatever they are. I don't know if a LMG or AP rifle will damage them. We may come up against something we have no response to but to run. If they put that in between us and the exit we have to have some way of defeating it.

>>322889
Smoothbores and gyrocs are types of guns. Not robots.

The trouble with setting up a 20,000 pound bomb someplace is that it weighs 20,000 pounds.

Also, to help clarify: The big room where the fight took place has four doors: HS1 through 3, and an exit. The exit is the door Penji wedged the bot under. Through that doorway, she could see a hallway ending at yet another door, with a few other, smaller ones along its length.

>>322889
If we had been dicking around for an hour and they didn't have some trap that resulted in very serious injury for both Mitzi and Penji I would have been very disapointed. Doesn't have to be anything big, Penji still bleeds and have soft parts, put up alot of claymores and set it off on her and she's not likely to be up for fighting after that.

The smoothbores and gyrocs thing probably refers to gyro-rocket guns. That would potentially allow them to have assault rifles firing .50 cal shoots with very low recoil. If Penji gets hit by one of those I think it's game over unless she has some CS on her and can heal the damage fast enough. So even if had the HMG and they didn't have any traps, just emplacements for the guards, they could still have taken us out with one lucky shot, while we would have needed alot more shoots to make them retreat as they would be more mentally prepared this time for a hard fight.

>>322890
I just assumed they were types of artillery (Normal and Rockets, respectively), and were just the grunts complaining, like how a guardsman squad in DoW will go "Where's that artillery?!" when it's getting murdered.

Of course, it could be shotguns and rocketguns.

>"They rewired me with space shark!?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynvsTGKKaiw

Chapter eight ending. Plot twist. Holy shit.
Test Pattern, you are AMAZING!

I'd like to redistribute healing to 2 tails, 1 upgrade everything evenly. We'd be getting a bit into SPEED and PRIMARY SENSES which would help out. We should be very careful not to get shot in the chestplate until it has fully healed.

Test, is there a limit on how fast things can heal? Concerned about wasting pointhours.

yes the CAP to healing would be nice cause if it has none then if we get to 100% clear of suppress then we could probably heal faster then they could hurt us.

Well, everything that's happening is healing. She's got a lot of damage from being embalmed in toxins for four decades. The bullet holes are small potatoes compared to that.

i mean, how fast can she heal surface damage if she puts 100% into it?

What I was asking was that if Penji Had a billion points of healing and put that all into tail regeneration would they pop back instantly or still take time to grow out.

I don't want to spend a billion points on the tails if spending half a billion on the tails and half a billion elsewhere would accomplish the same thing.

There's diminishing returns, but there's never going to be outright waste.

It's not a problem right now, because she's simultaneously healing damage from bullet impacts.

This has the potential to be really complicated, so I'm going to try keeping it all ezmode, since the mechanics of the healing focus is not the focus of the quest. Penji understands what's happening, and it's in her interest to heal efficiently, so don't worry too much about that part.

I want to let you know that if you were playing Bobby Fischer at chess and you acknowledged that you could take a free pawn and that you decided not to because you had other plans, he would reach across the table and slap you for being a dumbass.

Just thought you should know.

Penji is the name we have given her.
Tozol is the species.
Tethys is the code name assigned by the facility.

Mitzi is the name she was born with.
Human/Valcien hybrid is the species.
Nyx is is the code name assigned by the facility.

Good work, getting Penji killed and all that!

>>323677
the thing was called a 'displacer' that sounds like a short range teleporter then a weapon.

Anonymous 2010/04/12(Mon)04:09 No. 13884 ID: 67c611
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Don't blame me.
>>/quest/161431
>>/quest/161463
They wouldn't have been able to use the missile at 3m range and half of them would be dead before they knew what the fuck.

gg guys gg

>>323678
Nah, it means her guts are displaced out of her body.
All over the walls and such.

Here's to hoping Penji wakes up in a tube partially regenerated and stable with a scientist tapping on the glass saying "You shouldn't have done that." when she wakes up.

Don't worry, she'll be fine. She's survived worse. Kinda.

>>323686
Ok, what I do not get is how we went from her being a heat-packing Tozol-and-a-half who's job is RIPANDTEAR to 'please don't shoot, we mean you no harm'. What the fuck happened?

>>323692
You mean how she's not magic and can get overwhelmed by superior force?
The dudes she slaughtered didn't expect her, but I guess their superiors learned from that mistake.

Being able to survive everything she went through and then us yelling for her to be a peace-nick...yeah, that's magically able to survive most any fucking thing.

Honestly you guys are idiots. Penji is getting fucked up because you are making the wrong decisions. In competent hands she is an engine of destruction. You are dragging her down. Either stop posting, grow some brains, or Penji is as good as dead if she's not dead already.

It would be totally great if everyone would be more polite. Everyone can disagree with everyone else about everything, and think they're intentionally trying to kill off the characters or are morons or whatever, but I nevertheless insist that everyone at least tries to be polite.

And if you're gonna argue back and forth do it here, and not in the quest thread.

>>323701
Sorry, sorry, it's just annoying how confused this quest got.

Wait, that sounds bad...I'm annoyed at how confused the suggestions got in the quest while the quest itself is awesome.

>>323694
Ok, I'm gonna stop feeling annoying - Test, you are an amazing artist and a cunning writer. I applaud your work. I feel that whatever happened should inspire us to greater heights.

I still feel slightly vindicated by this, however.

I gotta agree that the suggestions were kind of stupid. A LMG isn't going to have the accuracy to peg a visor 4 or 5 times, and the concept of Penji being able to shoot down an RPG or any other type of rocket is crazy.

>>323784
she has done worse with a rifle in single round. she supressed 3 soldiers firing 2 rounds on each, she pinpointed a visor on a dude that barely showed up. she said so herself, if it werent for the LMG its likely she would have made that hit.

>>323784
>>I try shooting it down. I feel I should be able to, but I'm too slow.
She can shoot it down. She needs to be in better shape to be able to do it.

A fit Tozol is capable of taking out this entire facility at full strength, solo. People have trouble comprehending how powerful they are. But all that power, without direction, is useless. It's like formula one racecar driven by a monkey.

>A fit Tozol is capable of taking out this entire facility at full strength, solo.

Where, exactly, are you pulling this information out of?

>>323794
His ass most likely.
And I say that as polite as possible.

Ok. We are constantly being bombarded with these "Penji is unstoppable in the right hands" comments. As if half the commenters are actively, intentionally, working to kill off the main character.

Well, this is the discussion thread - our chance to share our cunning plans. So do it already. What, specifically, would you /k/ommandos do / have done differently aside from just grabbing the .50cal MG? THIS IS NOT A RHETORICAL QUESTION. I would like to know how to stop being ambushed and participating in firefights where we are disadvantaged.

(I'm still not personally convinced the cost / benefit ratio was worthwhile on the heavy gun, but that's in the past)

>>323807
>participating in firefights where we are disadvantaged
this is only apparent.

penji is some sort of super soldier, her bones are interlaces plates that protect against bullets and her skin "tickles" when someone shoots her.

every situation so far has been disabled with smart thinking instead of going beardbeard ans simply scream "DEFORESTATION!".

when she supressed their fire it only worked because their armor could not take the hits, thus the rifle in the 1st encounter being so dammed effective. she also has primed reflexes and can take good snapshots thanks to her strenght.

in this encounter we survived because the displacer "failed". our good moves where aiming at the visor (plexiglass isnt quite transparent once shot) and hitting the soldiers'd hand. we "failed" because the shield was not disabled, we also failed to pin the heavy weapons soldier before he fired and we generally lacked piercing power along with acurrancy.

penji needs a sniper rifle!

>>323810
I think we handled the situation rather well. Penji took no damage, and the displacer opened a path to where we wanted to go.

My opinion is that we could not have stopped getting shot by the displacer. Test Pattern had that event set up for the conclusion of the fight no matter how we performed. Since we got through the fight without losing anything except the LMG, I'd say it was a great success.

Killing the soldiers is something we should only do if we know it is to our advantage. Right now, we have been told there is no way to escape. If that's true, then pissing off the humans by killing their mans is a bad idea.

In my opinion, we could not have handled the situation better with our current resources.

>>323817
my point is that was PURE luck. what if the nanobots were there to port us?

that fight ended too early to be the real ending. more specificaly, penji stated that she could have if the barrel handt heated.

about killing, i actualy want them alive. we both need negotiation leverage as information.

as leverage and information is a good reason to keep them alive, but if we have a few and offer their live in exchange for getting out and they say no then that's it, we need to kill our way out. be it a sneaking mission or super-soldier style.

>>323807
First off, we could have waited longer till pushing out of HS3. We would have secondary senses maxed and be well into primary and speed. In 2.5 hours we went from nothing in secondary senses to near complete. We got blindsight. The tactical advantage of knowing exactly where your enemies are is like having three queens in chess. Most people don't grasp the advantage this gives as they don't know about position, movement, and applying pressure.

Second would have been to take the HMG. The hour we use while detaching it is not wasted. We are healing the whole time. The HMG will punch through any armor we encounter. Robots, shields, and body armor mean nothing. We no longer have to run up to robots to flip them. We no longer have to watch bullets bounce off shields and be slowed by body armor. If we have line of sight to the enemy, we can kill them.

Third. The tactical blunder of abandoning cover is unacceptable. Decisions like these are what is going to get Penji killed. This action got her shot an unspecified number of times (guess 2-6). Each shot produced a crater in her chestplate. Penji must divert all healing points to fixing this. We could have spent that time upgrading speed or primary senses or finishing secondary senses. Every injury is a huge setback to her physical progress. Honestly, what did you think was going to happen by having Penji in the open with 5 people shooting at her?

Fourth. I thought it was pretty clear when we saw the video of them tearing off Mitzi's arm with a giant robot claw that these weren't the kind of people to be friends with. Also the various weapons on the target range and the prison cells and the giant robot that tried to kill us are pretty good indicators of what these people want.

Fifth. We had an oppertunity to avoid the second squad and perhaps ambush them, but people decided instead, for reasons unknown, to engage them directly. The logic for leaving behind the HMG and not exploring HS1 and HS2 was so we could avoid having to fight the squad that was coming as backup. I don't know why they decided it was suddenly a good idea to fight them and at the same time not take the HMG. You do see the errors here? Please tell me you do.

I can say with great confidence that if only I were in charge of Penji that she
A: would be more powerful than she is now
B: would have sustained fewer injuries than she has now
C: would have killed more enemies than she has now
All three of these things increase her odds of survival.

The reason we are not at this point is because this is a majority vote system. People with varying amounts of intelligence and skill have the same amount of say. This will average out to decision making skills of 100 IQ. There are no chess grandmasters with 100 IQ. That is because there are smarter than average people who can out think and out move the average people. Generally speaking, people with higher intelligence make better decisions.

What I'm saying is that everyone does their best but we end up with sub-optimal results because it takes the average of all our intelligences, the average being 100. That isn't good enough to think all the options through and think several moves ahead and pick the right answer. To put it very very bluntly "100 IQ isn't good for much.".

[took me an hour to type all this shit up. I'm taking a nap. I'm sure I've offended many people with this and I apologize. You wanted my case and I'm giving it to you.]

>>323859
There are also several dozen other examples that I'm not going to bother to point out. Crackpot theories that have been proven wrong and plain bad ideas.

..............I know what the nanomachines did. They allowed sensors to detect Penji. Going through the decon hall we still had them in us. That's how it detected us. After we flushed them and went through the HS3 to HS hallway those sensors didn't detect us and neither did the handheld sensors of the guards. [BeingAJerkToMakeAPoint]Score another one for 67c611. I'll go set that by my satchel charge trophy and my reminding-people-we-had-a-handgun trophy and my firing pin trophy.[/BeingAJerkToMakeAPoint] Don't take that last bit to seriously.

Now that makes me wonder if they were a kill mechanism at all. And then that makes me wonder what that two-button device was.

Again I'll restate that people don't, no, can't comprehend how powerful Penji is.
"You shot me in the head? Excuse me while I'm disoriented for five seconds and then go back to fucking your shit up."
"You want me to land a grenade in a 2m area at 200m? Sure."
"A missile? Really?" shoot it down
"You think that scanner is going to show anything? Hahahahahaha."
"I can feel you hiding behind that corner, you know."
"New room with people in it? Give me a second to create a map and mark the exact position of everyone in it."
"What do you mean adrenaline makes people less accurate when shooting?"
"Don't worry. This 100 kg HMG won't slow me down at all. Just make it a bit harder to change direction."
"You people can't use your feet to fire guns? What good are they then?"
"The locker is locked. Now it's unlocked."
"3 ton tank blocking the doorway? Flip that shit."
"Humans have to use silly-looking goggles to see in the dark? You're pathetic."
"I'm missing an ear? Don't worry, it'll grow back in a few hours."
"I don't have to unwrap food to eat it."
"Om nom nom nom nom. Your rifle is delicious."
"Wow, all you managed to do with that displacer is open a locked door for me."

You have to stop thinking with human limitations in mind. She is a god.

[This is intended to be a bit rude. I feel like I have to grab someone by the shoulders and shake them violently then push their face up close to something and point at it to get them to notice it. Again took about an hour to write this. If I can convince a single person that Penji is not a fragile flower but a war machine to be used with skill and good tactics, it will be worth it.]

Taking things a bit too seriously.

I admit I cringed a bit when reading through the chapters and seeing the "tactical" suggestions. But I'm fine with Penji eating a few bullets and flailing around like a retard. More intresting in the end when the QM can easily play around what they have in mind and threaten with death. I can do a competent solo in an actual tabletop rpg. Here it's a comedy option.

What I can't stand is being the retarded paladin good guy. There's a time and a place to play being the one and only saviour of mankind. And that isin't on a battlefield. Also would it hurt to stop being so nice to people who want to kill you and taking a policy of "if you stay out of my way I won't hurt you" instead of "Oh you poor misunderstood thing let me stick my head out for you".

More commander Adama, less goodie John Shepard.

Oh, and good quest Test. Haven't really been able to participate in anything lately but hopefully that'll change soon.

>>323859
>I can say with great confidence that if only I were in charge of Penji that she
>A: wouldn't wear anything ever
>B: would just sit there fondling herself
>C: would have lesbian sex with Mitzi
>All three of these things increase my odds of getting an erection.

ftfy

>HMG means srs bsns
the HMG failed to pierce the shield, the soldier's armor and we apparently loaded it with crappy non armor-piercing ammo. the barrel overheated and we lost precision WAY too fast.

now it doesnt matter, its gone anyway.

>these weren't the kind of people to be friends with
we dont really have a choice, and i want diplomacy. the dogs can die, but i want the dude with the leash tied up and barking for us.

even if they ARE NOT a covert operations its likely they have more that 100 soldiers in full body armor with warp-tech weapons to stop us. so far we managed to "supress" them because either they failed or werent expecting us.

as far as i know, its possible they may be stunned if we tell them we know of a 3rd subject. however we may be looking at shadra's level of hatred, so we will be in a choice of mitzi and brother or the facility's good will. wich means trheesomes before we get nuked or we get nuked above a pile of dead soldiers.

our knowledge need from them is as far as i remember:
-wtf is this place
-wtf is penji/tozol
-wtf is mitzi's brother
-wtf is mitzi
-wtf were they doing to us
-wtf we did before gettin railgun'd with the orb of infinite psyche thru the skull.

alternatively we need to know how to estabilish superiority and how we could return to be "normal" if such is the case. if we are war prisioners we should push for the line and GTFO anyway.

so far the best that i could come up with is that penji USED to be a commando of some sort and suffered gengineering to turn into a tozol. in this process she got wacky/wanted out and so we becamed a liability to the secretive facility.

>second squad and perhaps ambush them, but people decided instead, for reasons unknown, to engage them directly
i saw that, everyone got distracted. it was more like:
"hey dudes, there is a squadron coming form the right!"
"oh shit take cover! get on a room or something!"
"oh look at pretty sign. there is a fire exit on the right"
"oh yay go right! its not like if there are soldiers around!"

also we may need to consider torturing live soldiers to get info.

Penji 2010/04/15(Thu)13:51 No. 14067 ID: 0fc814
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>>323860

>>323866
Penji didn't have the HMG. The HMG refers to that big ass turret thing we decided not to take an hour removing.

>>323859
I wanted to engage the soldiers directly so that Mitzi would have time to open the door. There wasn't really anywhere to hide while trying to get into Bio research, you know.

>>323867

Don't Jinx the Tozol

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>>323867
"HEY BABY!"

"NICE ARMOR!"

>>323875
-sign at the Tozol enclosure

<Blaank> Ah, FUCK. Did a run through the archives and phasing is a plausible explanation for whatever got out of HS3 ahead of us.
<Blaank> Would explain the guard in the bathroom and the lack of blood trails from one room to the next.
<Blaank> Would explain why whatever it was completely bypassed the door to decon, the door out of decon, and the final exit out of HS3.
<Blaank> Whatever it was may not have needed to open them to pass thorugh.
<Blaank> Those doors are probably built to be airtight and liquidtight.
<Blaank> Gas or liquid form wouldn't help.... unless ventilation..... I don't know.
<Blaank> It would not explain the railgun blood or the lack of some bodies but those could be explained by something else.

This implies a lot of other things but I'm lazy so I'll leave the deduction up to you.

>>/quest/165490
>Can we still insult the Characters?
Yes. You can also suggest for characters to insult other characters, if you like.

You can also insult me, because that counts as feedback, but I'd ask you keep it in questdis.

>>323953
You smell funny.

>>323953
>but I'd ask you keep it in questdis.
Sorry about that. I keep forgetting how to make cross-board replies.

I call it as I see it. I'm trying to respond to insults with equal or lesser insults. If you want me to stop calling people out when they are wrong, let me know and I'll stop.

Would this have been OK?

>>/quest/165445
Knowing what Penji's potential is will not make suppress leaver her system faster.

Lights are on. This area has power. Power means working cameras. Working cameras mean they just saw Tethys alive. And that means they are sending another kill team here asap. 15 minutes is optimistic. They will likely get here in 10.


[I've never had a bad GM before. Pointing out strong points and weaknesses of PC's is standard discussion with mine. With the other players we like thinking up the perfect ways to kill each other. It's a mental exercise and quite fun. Try thinking up a good plan to kill Penji and you start to understand how much of a bitch she is to kill.]
[I've got literally 4 to 6 separate trains of thought competing for my focus. I'll post some stuff later after I've let it churn for a while.]

>>323951
what. BIOLOGICAL warp based weapons? as preposterous as actual warp weapons not working as intended.

we need to confirm that tazer tits is a changeling. if she is, her brother may be able to phase.

her brother may be the changeling they are looking for, his ruckus on the initial escape led to our own escape. he can simply be patient and still be in the beginning area playing dead. or inside a soldier's suit in the room of our 1st encounter.

if none of them are changelings then its likely someone got phased to walk freely in the first escape. why he killed people would indicate either a work of hate or purging data, if its the later it would make sense to let us escape to cover trails.

Or maybe Mitzi's brother is so powerful a changeling that he's able to use the facility's plumbing to move from one place to the next. Thus, he shapeshifted into that guy we found dead in his cell, used the toilet in the main computer room in HS3 to travel to the one next to the break room.

He killed the first guard to walk in there, and then assumed his shape to access the security room and alter the computer that deals with DECON, programming it to let Mitzi pass. At this point I'm going to bet the power was still on. He could then just walk straight into other areas of the complex.

I bet he eventually shut down the power, but didn't know that HS3 had a security door set to automatically close upon power loss.

>>323970
There's no indication of whether or not the power is back on yet. Don't say "we can see" because that's been the case the whole damn quest. Penji said we had no way of knowing how much time we had. Just go with that instead of coming to your own conclusions based upon zero evidence.

Also quit calling Penji Tethys. The guard had no way of really identifying her. He was like 200 meters away! A meter is almost the same distance as a yard. Can you identify someone across a football field? NO, YOU CAN'T. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that Tethys escaped too, and the guard just thought that's who Penji is. No idea if Tethys is friendly or not. It could be hostile to all organic life, or want to escape like Penji.

>>323990
yeah i mean, what are the odds of you distinguish someone that is bright red with 4 ears and has absolutely no possibility of being anyone else in a facility that is completely isolated that also contains a mimic that is too smart to mimicry something so deadly that everyone will try to use all avaliable explosive devices on hand just to blind it?

>someone that is bright red
Grey.

>>324000
and once again my reading comprehension fails me.

well at least she can blend with the enviroment =3

>>324002
She'll blend even better once we upgrade her eyes. It turns out she can make her eye whites darken so they're less visible.

>>324003
wha-

so we are seeing B&W in the quest because her eyes arent upgraded? and we could get extra precision from that as a bonus?

I wasn't planning on changing the art style. However, feel free to offer feedback and criticism about my drawing or writing.

>>324005
they are good, i jsut noticed that your previous quests were colored.

i liek them characters, the art is awsm, the action is also awsm, but it feels like we are re-tracking goshee's path with shandra

>>323990
The lights are on. Lights require power to be on. That means the lights have power. That means that this area has power. This area has power. That means this areas cameras have power. That means this ares cameras are working. The cameras working means this camera just saw Tethys. The camera seeing Tethys means that central security saw Tethys. Central security saw Tethys.

The only situation in which they did not see Penji, is if the displacer cut the data cables to central security. If it did and they are no longer receiving security footage from Bio. If they are no longer receiving security footage from Bio they will send a security team to re-clear the area.

If they saw Penji, they are sending a security team. If they didn't see Penji, they are sending a security team. Conclusion: they are sending a security team.

>>/quest/161606
>>"Taking fire!" I hear, though between the distance, the gunfire, and their silencing gear, it's difficult. "Oh shit, it's Tethys!"