Well, since it's so close, can we have both? Ragtag team of astranian and solarian rebels?

>>337577
Wrong discussion thread dude...

>>337575
The way I read it, I think that is like "I may not agree with that, but I will defend your right to do it"

My thought is that the "Yamato Cannon Fire!" image is probably the greatest single moment this quest can ever possibly have. It is epic and attention grabbing. Unfortunately, it's all down hill from here. >_<

It can be both!

Why do all the character clothes have nipple-buttons?

FlynnMerk 2010/11/29(Mon)15:48 No. 27788 ID: 12cc58
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>>337586
well you see... they don't look like nipples really. I just suck at drawing them. there supposed to be studs for buttons. huge buttons.

>>quest/260697

See, thats the part where I'm not sure what to say. You only get better at writing about a subject by writing it, but you drive people away if you cant write it well... Catch 22 anyone?

Lets see if you can find a solution in there somewhere.

>>337589
Editors and selective audience testing. Get a FEW people that are something of a cross-section of your full audience and run something by them, see how they react.

Also I was wondering about the things on the clothes. Guess that's answered now. Insofar as we know what they are, but not why everyone has them.

>>337588

I know that they don't look literally like nipples, but it keeps striking me as odd that they all have two buttons over the nipples.

>>337590
Kevin mentioned them... he called them the enclaive rivets. that being said I didn't know what they were called back then.

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!

I GOT A NEW MONITOR!!!!

>>337600
Um... Excellent?

>>337397
I can now understand how not circle this oval is. back on my old monitor it was a perfect circle

ok I i'm gonna drop the Rpg menu screen but I'm keeping the memory fragments

Interesting observation... Fight in Room 13... Two d20 rolls so far... both 13

DUN DUN DUUN.

whats the max mgic we can carry? in ff8 it was 99.

you say we might have Gf. does that mean we will have junctions? like strenght? if so does junctionuing higher level speells give a larger bost? completing some quests might become a lot easyer
>kill a mountain!

how will Gfs work? do they just pop in and attack once then leave? do they take damage for us when you cast them? and if you dont have mana can we spam them like in ff8?

lastly do Gfs have Ap? I notice that you have Xp.

>>337604
I'm fine with the menu system. It's a useful framing tool to set the tone of the quest.

Ugh... FF8's magic system was so distasteful to me. LOOKS LIKE IT'S TIME TO GRIND THE DRAW SYSTEM

>>337685

there is no max magic.

yes you can junction magic to skills.

yes higher level magics to give better bonuses

I will explain Gfs later. but no they don't take damage for you.

>>337687

yah I know... I'm considering reusing the menu... but .gifs are not my forte and its hard to run through a menu in .jpeg

but I'll consider it.

>>337689

unfortunately grind drawing is not very possible. Blake will often try to avoid fights if at all possible. due to his kind and wussy nature. and as you can tell dogging is not always so easy. so spamming draw can yes get you a lot of power... but it can also be a dangerous dance.

redroot is a common illness amongst terrakin (animalkin) it is caused by prolonged exposure to dirty rags, cloths and leathers. the illness starts in the skin. in this stage it is undetectable. within a few days it spreads into the small red spots. redroot can be removed trough the application of medicine to the contaminated spot. how ever due to fur. it can sometimes be difficult to locate redroot at the first few stages. the third stage is marked by the spreading of the spots into a large rash on the general contaminated area. the main difference between a normal rash and redroot is that a rash mostly affects the skin were redroot affects the flesh as well. the third stage is also marked by searing pain. similar to most rashes only far worst due to the nature of the illness. redroot is named as such due to the main ingredient in the medicine. (bell tree root) the roots of bell trees are a vibrant red beneath the bark. if left untreated. (this is rare since redroot medicine is cheap) redroot can attain its latter stages. also known as greyroot. greyroot is... far worst. where redroot is a mere painful rash. greyroot is a full out flesh eating disease. the contaminated areas slowly melt away revealing bone and cartilage. greyroot is known as such not due to the medicine. but the color of the infected areas. medicine for greyroot is very expensive. generally if you cant afford redroot medicine. you cant afford greyroot medicine. thus the most common cure for greyroot is bullets. professor Maggoty Salem discovered in 1765 that greyroot eats away at the flesh by corrupting the white blood cells and causing them to attack the infected flesh. destroying the body slowly.

just what is Gauffre? he has no neck no eyes and a tail. hes also quite tall since your the size of a goblin and hes taller than you. you were 17 at the time right? how old are you now?

also if he has no neck how does he eat? and does he see?

oh and why is that one memory in sepia? when you have some that are older than that. and are in colour where the rest of the quest is in black and white? is it becaus eof teh gangsta atmosphere?

>>337718

Geoffrey is an Ixizoi. (i-xi-zo-i) the ixisoi are a intelligent race on par with humans. they don not posses necks. there head merely float above there shoulders. they float due to mystical force. the head can be removed and reattached with out immediate consequences. the "neck" (mystical force) does how ever have a force of about twenty pounds. (it would take the strength to lift twenty pounds to detach an ixisoi's head.) once detached the head is still conscious and fully capable. the body how ever is lifeless. if the body is not feed it will die of hunger. a head can not reattach to a dead body. nor can it attach to a body that is not its own.

males do not posses eyes. they do how ever see life. to them it appears as a glow about things that are alive. they can also see things that were alive. the glow how ever is faint. (a wooden table for example would still be visible) females have eyes but can not see life. all ixizoi are color blind.

ixizoi have tails that help balance. they are much taller than most humanoid species. (males range from 6-8 feet where females range in the 5 feet) females have very large hands.(generally 1foot long and proportional to human hands)

ixizoi do not eat food. they eat life. this is seen a blue, green, red or orange mist (depending on the nature (animal blue, plant green, fungus red, other generally orange.)) flowing from there food into there mouths. ixizoi only get hungry about once a week. small animals like cats or rabbits (not Blake or Rover. actual rabbits... feral things) are enough to satisfy most ixizoi. some more rich ixizoi may consume human food and not swallow only to savor the taste of meat or other foods. (they don't have necks or throats. how COULD they swallow?)

ixizoi are quite different than most in there sexes. the males you see carry the children and the females inseminate the males. (simply put... there all a bunch of dickgirls and cuntboys) the males naturally grow large beards. like a dwarf. they how ever, unlike dwarfs, cut there beards incessantly. the beards you see. grow at alarming rates. a bald face will grow to a dorf caliber beard in only a week. so a small tame beard for ixizoi is a sign of culture, discipline and respect. it also attracts females. quite like how large breasts attracts human males. small beards are sexy. none how ever is somewhat disgusting. like breasts that are too large.

females with large breasts often enjoy flaunting them off. it is not uncommon to see a female ixizoi walk around topless. males how ever tend to react negatively to seeing there chests. its considered disgraceful for any ixizoi to have a flat chest. male or female. women tend to wear the pants in that society.

they are strongly encrusted in human society. this is due to there technological advancements around the year 370. they seem to have some cultural similarities to the haruny (also known as temporal dust bunnies) and the timezelus (no spoilers will be offered as for these last two races. it would ruin Jamesquest)

>>337719

Bronx is the ixizoi capital. its large and very industrial. there is a brown smog at ground level in almost all sectors of Bronx that blocks out a lot of color and causes most thing to be seen as brown or sepia... the ixizoi don't seem to notice however. especially not the males.

FlynnMerk 2010/12/02(Thu)15:29 No. 27928 ID: f504f7
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so exploitable

>>337728
Why'd you take his eyes? YOU TOOK HIS EYES YOU FIEND!

But seriously, Rover licking the battlecruiser (in the literal sense) was definitely the most amusing thing I've seen all day. Not to mention that it's a pretty good lookin' battle cruiser. Did you make it yourself or pull it from somewhere?

>>337731
it appears to be a starcraft battlecruiser run through a filter or two to bring it more in line with the existing art.

>>337731

he doesn't have eyes because it was on an other layer and I only saved this one.

the lack of eyes make it all the more so exploitable if you ask me...

and yah... got the battle cruiser off the internet. just Google battle cruiser and you find it.

>>337728

couldn`t help but notice that some of your graphic quality is getting better.koodos! keep it up man.

So you've got a few characters all set up, some tension and drama, your system establishing itself, and people starting to get interested. But your coherency due to not quite sufficient proficiency with English is causing some hiccups. I really suggest you either hang out a bit in the irc or throw down your contact info of e-mail or instant messenger so you can get yourself an editor and invite a bit more private consultation.

>>337765

Well my email is still flynn-merk@hotmail.com

If you want, you could help me out.

I'm just really antisocial and have a hard time letting peoples get involved with me. I'm a bit of a hikiko... Generally I just rely on my word corrector and assume that it wont bother anyone if I make a few mistakes... just whats my biggest problem in English? I'll try to fix it.

FlynnMerk 2010/12/10(Fri)20:43 No. 28207 ID: b57dc5
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here... have fun with it. but as requested save it for when it happens.

>>337768
I think it's mainly your punctuation and capitalization. Many of your sentences lack capital letters at the beginning. Also, you tend to post run-on sentences without punctuation marks to separate them.

Example:

>I'm not very familiar with this board can anyone explain it?
Should have been:
>I'm not very familiar with this board. Can anyone explain it?

Also, you don't use commas.

Some common typos I've seen include:
there =/= their ("there" indicates a location; "their" is a plural possessive)
however =/= how ever ("however" is one word)

>>338073
duly noted.

>>/quest/264260
how are we supposes to drive a body whit writen commend?

>>338168

The same way you have been doing for ever in every quest. Basically if he lets you, Blake will do almost anything Eden tells him. and will be able to know and do what ever you may.

you play monster hunter right? or do you just know about iburujo because he's awesome?

>>338434
me and flynn been hunting together since MH1

yup, I'm up to 700 hours now on mhfu

- announcement -

since I HATE rendering my pictures, I'm gonna start just posting my hand drawn versions. (seriously I'm doing this with a mouse you know) when I get a tablet I'll go back to digital. Or if you all find it to be an eye sore I'll have no choice but to please. Until then please enjoy my artwork.

Furthermore. After doing a few sketches I fell in love with a few new characters in Blakequest. How ever I'm sad to say that it would be illogical for blake or Eden to get the chance to really get to know these characters very well, and they start being important really late in the story. So since I like them so much I'm considering doing a one shot involving them that parallels Blakequest.

If anyone wants to see the sketches just ask. And if your interested in learning more about this other quest I don't mind giving some previews.

well I done vacationing... gonna get back in the groove. I've been thinking about where I wanna bring this thing but I realized that i was to mono tracked. My characters talk to much really... so I'm gonna shorten the dialog. the problem is that I'm to lazy, I would rather write than draw. But no one said this was easy. So yah expect smaller faster posts... I hope I'm not bothering anyone with this post.

Personally I enjoy conversation and description. The more there is, the more content there is to the story, and it's rather necessary if you're using your quest in a large-scope setting. If it's a very close-to-reality setting or one that's deliberately vague (such as in many "You Awaken In A Facility" quests) shorter posts are more appropriate, but if you want to color a big picture, you need a lot of ink.

I have a question! does corporal possetion give us the wright to metagame?

also. Just want to say: your doing good man, love teh art style, you could pay more attention every now and then but its all good.

now on to my real question. Ginger and pickles? where have I heard that before? I know I know it but where?

>>339250

yes basically.

thanks it means a lot to me.

Beatrix Potter.

Gonna give you props for your most recent pic, Rover's response to Blake while in the fire. Very stylish, what with the fire and the anime-esque expression. You get a gold star.

I am raging. Two seconds in google would tell you that spiders have eight legs and a cephalothorax. (i.e. not a separate head). I mean, I knew that in elementary school - who the fuck doesn't know how many legs a spider has, at least? I find the three body segments more forgivable, but I still do not forgive you for it.

>>339548
they don't have tentacle around there mouth neither, what's your point

>>339548

allow me to explain. They are not spiders but rather large bugs, known as lurkers. They live in dens dug at the bottom of lakes and other large water masses. they hunt their prey by striking them with their jelly fish like tentacles, paralyzing them then dragging them into the water drowning their victims. They do not spin webs, but do have venomous stingers in their abdomens.

Blake didn't know what they where and assumed they were spiders since he didn't know how else to call them.

but yes, they are far from being arachnids.

>>339550

please note that this was preplanned and that I am in fact not retarded.

I'm still trying things here. so combat scenes, Eden and other things in this quest may not be perfect.

I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this quest, I have yet to specifie a main quest. But through trial and error I've concluded what it wont be:.. Although it does contain Romance, It's not porn quest, this was confirmed immediately after during the sex scene, since I'm incompetent as an artist.

BlakeQuest is sorta like a beta. Really just building up Quest experience for my other quests.

But yah... I'm gonna log off for a few days. I'm not feeling my self, and I might start a new quest... A short one, probably Guss Quest. It'd be like a prequel to Qwern quest.

I'm sorry to tell you, but all quest experience is not good quest experience. Knowing how to make a quest half the board actively avoids is not very good preparation for a real quest, unless you do the exact opposite of what you did before.

>>339612

my goal exactly. Creating a "bad" quest was an accident. An accident I will not reproduce. this is what is called trial and error.

More over to insure that my next Stories don't fail as much it would be nice to get constructive criticism, in order to help me learn. This is not an excuse to troll or rage, just help out a fellow artist.

I already know about the sex scene problem. But could you point out some other reasons why you don't like my quest?

I think people are being overly harsh. That is all.

>>339624
I don't think people are generally overly harsh on this site. They hardly complain about any quest at all.

>>339621
Maybe it's partially your trial and error tactic that's responsible for the circumstance, that your quest is not working for me.
You mash too many genres that just don't work well together in an attempt to test, which one works best for you. While a reader generally will accept the most obscure plot point as long as it fits the genre, if you combine too many genres and stack too many different elements in a short amount of time it might put the reader off.
This means that if you keep combining ear sex, fire magic, memory shards, shonen style battle confrontations, slice of life drama, etc. the outcome doesn't work - at least not for me.

Also your trial and error tactic creates the problem, that you can't establish what kind of world your quest takes place in, because you are trying out different settings. When your character suddenly can use magic it should have been established from the beginning, that using magic in this world is a possibility (unless you're writing in a setting where that's assumed automatically - I wouldn't have any complains if it would be suddenly revealed, that some people can cast spells in a high fantasy setting for example).

Those were some of the reasons why I stopped reading this quest in the middle of the first chapter, but since you still have some players who seem to enjoy it, maybe those points raised by me are not universally loathed.

>>339626

Thank you. I see my problems now, That being said aside from the combat style. (Because BlakeQuest was supposed to have action in it.) I'm pretty sure where I'm going now.

Basically, my plan from here on out is as followed... In BlakeQuest, You (Eden) attempt to uncover the dark and mysterious past of Blake Steelheart, as well as your own. As a side story, Blake eventually has to choose a faction from a small list, not only to find out more about him self but also to help save/destroy/neutralize the world/human race/all life on the planet. (this is a difficult choice. fortunately you only need to make a choice this big one or twice.)

Adorned with character development and the occasional fight scene. Blake quest also offers a sorta custom character system, since Blake has no real personality the choices you influence him to take alter who he is. as well as the occasional memory fragment. (the fact that you don't have to watch them changes how Blake develops.)

as a resume: fights and self discovery.

also, I'd want to develop on the world since most of my other plans for quest take place in the same world. I've tried hinting towards some of the facts of life in Terramore, but it woulds seem I'll have to be more direct. As you may have noticed I love writhing long walls of text that explain the various races and species of Terramore. But I understand if no one likes reading them.

Once again thank you for your criticism.

Personally I avoid your quests because you mashed sergals in ham-handedly, one of my worst pet peeves.

If you want to know how to mash sergals in with elegant grace, go read CBSF.

>>339636
Of all the things to avoid Blake Quest for, getting mad at non-canon Sergals is hilarious given that Mick can't keep Vilous canon straight.

>>339636

Yes. I understand why I should not use sergals. In fact I have decided to avoid them in my stories completely. I simply do not understand them enough to think I may use them for but one instant. the idea that I could was a mistake of height magnitude. Blakequest does, how ever posses one particular red furred sergal faced individual that was unfortunately identified as sergal but will not be remembered as such. Your statement and prior statements were real eye openers and I thank you greatly.

also, unfortunately CBSF is an unfamiliar acronym to me. please explain or post a link to with I could read it. Thank you.

>>339641
Oh, it's not so much non-canon sergals as just throwing them in for shits and giggles/your fetish. Why the fuck do you have to make a sergal Pokemon trainer exactly??

>>339646

Because both sergals and pokeymans are popular.

>>339643
Cutebold Slaughter Fest. IMO, one of the greatest quests on this site.

Okay so
I'm not very active, and I only read a few quests

But in my honest opinion, this quest is just so convoluted and full of just so much thrown-in stuff

I'm not some kind of quest-judge or whatever but it just seems like this quest doesn't have any idea where it wants to go, I guess.

>>339711
I agree.

>>339711

yeah, I've been struggling to push the quest in some direction lately.

You see, as for Blake quest its self, the idea was that an array of possible outcomes would be possible and Eden would be able to choose WHERE the quest leads Blake. That's why I made a lot of characters for /Quest/ to socialize with and eventually chose and pick favorites. I had planned a possible 25 ending and am willing to end with neither one of them, the quest can go in five possible directions and if willed you can forge new ones.

I should have been more obvious about this, I just assumed that letting Eden choose the main quest in chapter one would do the trick, but I was mistaken. (although, for a moment the main quest was really to crush mountains and obtain boats.) Soon the real main quest should be easy to grasp and define.

also, here's a little tip. Blake is not the main character. Eden is.

>>339767
Okay, that's another thing-

I know it's a discussion and all, but it seems like you're the only one discussing, really

Plus, you really shouldn't like, tell the readers what you have in store, or what's coming up next.
That'd be like if a webcomic author telling his viewers exactly what's going to happen in the next issue/page/strip/etc.

Hey now. Look BlakeQuest got a bad reception but the guy's trying his darnest to improve himself and create something people will enjoy. Can't y'all at least respect that? This is the correct place for announcements and to give/receive criticism, so I see no problem in anything going on in the thread. I still think people are trying way too hard to make a pariah out of this guy who is doing his best to be open to making a better story.

>>339770
He didn't say exactly what he was planning. He just gave a general outline. He didn't give away anything major; there's plenty of room for an interesting story.

>>339775
Unless there were some deleted posts that I haven't seen, it looks like everyone is being generally constructive here.

It's very clear that not many peoples like BlakeQuest (let alone anyone) and I understand why. But I have a question: Is it me that you dislike? Or just my quest?

More over if I make a new quest, will it get boycotted just because I made it?

>>340340
I like it?
Though, I guess in the words of a well known comedy group
GET ON WITH IT
(as in, start focusing on the plot. We're kinda just walking around and stuff...)

>>340340
I have nothing against you as a person or an author.
The reason I dislike BlakeQuest (a dislike I haven't been vocal about) stems purely from the quest itself (f.eks, the infamous ear-sex scene).

That is to say, I won't ignore another quest you may decide to make, simply because of my dislike of BlakeQuest.

Yattermang 2011/01/31(Mon)13:01 No. 30544 ID: 931093
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>>340340
Well, it started off alright enough, I'll admit, but it just seemed to lose a lot of steam fast. It seems like the whole thing has ADHD and can't focus on a central plot, or even -why- we are doing anything. Too many things are being introduced after the other, but that's just me.

Also the random sex scene was a BIG NO NO. I mean if you want to throw in some minor fanservice here and there that's fine, but straight up sex was just a bad idea.

Another thing would be a switch in the artstyle; it just adds to the whole inconsistency of the whole thing.

In all, it seems BlakeQuest was made to cater to
the supposed likes of others rather than being
your own thing.

I doubt anyone would boycott you if you made another quest, though.

>>340341

I will, I'm trying to bring the plot train to full speed.

>>340343

good to know, that resolves my recent worries.

>>340344

yeah I wasn't sure where I wanted to bring this quest either, but I think I know it now.
as for the sex scene... yeah I agree with you, crappy sex scenes belong on other sites, besides what's the average age group here anyways?
the art style can be explained quite simply. I did almost all of chapter 1 with a mouse, I don't own a pad. Eventually I just got pissed at it and started drawing everything by hand. But yeah it sorta clashes when you read it, I'm sorry. I'll avoid changing to drastically.

that being said thank you very much for your support. I feel very sad these days and I feel that the world hates me. But it makes me feel better to know that you don't all hate me for messing up once or twice. Thank you :)

>>340340
I'm going to go ahead and reinforce what the previous posters have said. Sex in a quest isn't necessarily a bad thing, the trick is pulling it off TASTEFULLY. Like a simple fade to black. Keep it cleverly censored (like the most recent update to Oren), and don't get too freaky with it.

Also, here's a little tip that could help. Make yourself a list. On this list you will write down specific important plot points you want to have happen, in chronological order. Not every single thing you want to have happen in the quest, just the really important stuff, like going to Town X, or acquiring magic gubbin #4. What happens in between these different plot points is the suggestions that come from your readers.

And it's been iterated on this board time and time again, and it will continue to be re-iterated: Have a planned end goal for your quest. This way you have something to work towards instead of "well derp what do we do now?"

This may seem a bit random, but I kind of liked the original art style better. It was more distinctive, and the thicker lines made things seem a bit more solid. The current style is good too, I just prefer the old one a bit.

>>343561

Back when it was computer generated or when I was using a black pen to outline everything?

I meant during the early parts of the first topic.

Actually, looking back on it, it wasn't as good as I remember it. The more recent parts are better drawn.

please vote for my next Quest

(A)New Quest (a)or(b)
(B)Blakequest Chp.3

so far it's A0 B2

*Refer to Blakequest Ch.2 for details.

>>344167
Blake, because we need to find out what kind of Eden-like thing lives inside Crazygirl's head.

I vote for Blake just because I hate dwarves

(A) (b)

>>344167
Anything that's not Blakequest, because Blakequest is quite honestly a disaster that should never be mentioned again.

>>344167
B

>>344167
A

>>344174
This.

>>344167
A-B, because I'm interested in seeing if you actually mean 240 AD or it's a typo for something else.

>>344191
DF calendar, maybe?

A

B

>>344167
Blake

>>344174
I agree with this sentiment

>>344167
Yeah. Based on the general consensus around here, I think it'd be better if you tried a new quest.

As for which one? Well, from what you mentioned, (b) sounds like something I'd enjoy more than (a).

A

>>344218
...and probably more likely to get people to give it another shot at reading your work.
>The new quest will either consist of fast paced action sci-fi involving dwarfs. Or a slower more character oriented quest in the early 240's, equally involving dwarfs.
The former, for preference.

FlynnMerk 2011/03/30(Wed)10:32 No. 34435 ID: 6fdb61
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ok... Lets count...

(A) New Quest
>>344170
>>344174
>>344187
>>344189
>>344191
>>344193
>>344210
>>344218
>>344219
>>344229

(B) BlakeQuest

>>344168
>>344169
>>344185
>>344208
>>344209
+1 in QuestThread

A:10
B:6

New Quest it is...

Now... which one?..

It seems that most don't care... Well then I'll go with (b) since there were some votes for it.

Thank you all for voting, see yah soon.

>>344235
>that picture
Suddenly everything makes sense.