>>108927
Here is an honest tip: strive for better than that.

>>108941
Here's another honest tip: Don't strive for better than that. Strive for speed and clarity or you will burn out.

>>108927
I draw those using Sai binary brush, which gives no anti-aliasing. I use a canvas at a size of 600:400px. Colors are set with a base layer, with a layer of grey on multiply over it. It's also done with a limited pallete It's quick and easy to use.

RML is a good artist who draws big relatively quickly and down scales her work. She limits her strokes so things turn out clean and clear, and downsizing reduces the emergence of unclear lines.

In general you'd want to learn basic drawing and have time and effort put into it. Eventually you'll get better and can start taking shortcuts.

>>108942
Most honestest tip: Strive for speed and clarity in quest art and detail and quality in personal art.

>>108929
>>108932
>>108941
>>108942
>>108950
Thanks for the many responses!

>>108943
Do you both use drawing tablets? I couldn't imagine making those varying brush sizes so quickly without a stylus. Should I bother with one now or wait till I've got a firmer grasp of drawing generally?

And also... I feel like I basically can draw basically. Give me time and I can draw anything, the problem is I feel like I don't draw fluently; it's not possible for me to limit strokes for example, or to choose bold lines immediately, or shading without correction... fluid poses, facial proportion, likeness, nonstandard body types, animals... I get what you mean about basic drawing hah.

Anyway do you have any advice about drawing fluently? Choosing the right line comes with more practice I guess. What sort of thing did you work on when you were at the point I am?

>>108952
Gesture drawing, gesture drawing, gesture drawing, gesture drawing. Gesture drawing was KEY for me to get past that point.

Find a resource for it you like (I use https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ ) and then do it every day.

It's also worth it to draw a lot of still lives and random objects. It will add to your visual vocabulary and help a lot with perspective. But Gesture Drawing will help you draw porn gooder. So it's more important.

>>108954
Oh also get you a tablet.
I'm not going to pretend I'm one of the best artists on the site or even a particularly good one; but I do like to think of myself as one of the most improved from where I started. And that stuff worked for me.

I feel like most of the planning for the intro of the reworked story I'm doing is in a pretty good place, but the old thread is still in the main catalog, and because it was abandoned, it has to go to the graveyard.

What's the policy for "continuing" a thread even with the old thread still up? Should I maybe just change the stories name?

>>108967
Report the thread and tell the mod you're the author and want it graveyarded in the report field and we can do it for you

RML here

I actually draw directly in low-resolution with aliased brushes! My Coxwette frames do not have any post-production or resizing done to them, and the described "effect" simply comes from the brush settings

>>108952
>>108954

RE: Tablet

My advice is, don't hold off on getting a tablet if you can help it. Practice concurrently on paper while also practicing on the tablet - I think you will find that it is not as hard as you thought to draw on something without a screen.

RE: Drawing Practice

My posing method was to watch Youtube videos and pause them at random spots. This will produce very natural poses. Do not limit it to videos of fighting or running. It can be anything from conversations to interviews to playing sports or dancing.

>>108968
OK, thank you for the help, I was a bit confused about the protocol for reporting stuff.
I guess next time I'll make sure to complete the thread!

>>108954
>>108955
>>108974
>>108975
These are both great responses, thank you.
I'll try and get a tablet when I can, in the mean time gesture poses and pausing on more natural models will help a lot.

The Ass of Hat 2017/02/24(Fri)13:48 No. 109172 ID: fc1ca8
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Here's a tip that can be used to add a little flare to your writing.
Alt + number pad = stuff like
╔═ ╔═╗ ╔═╗
╠═ ╠═╣ ╠═╝
║ ║ ║ ║
☺♥☻

>>109172
As amusing as having your failure pinned to the top of /questdis/ is, I think it's time it started moving on up.

Here's a tip I learned offsite: If you've got unsteady lines, draw close up at a high resolution, then downscale your art to make lines appear cleaner than they are.

>>109172
Testing to see if emoji work: 🍍

I'm trying to track down a quest that I can't remember the name of. A guy used a magical macguffin he didn't understand, it grew him to a massive size (destroying his house), he tracked down his female friend/crush for help as well as someone from town that didn't like him very much, and he and his friend were about to go questing for someone who might know more about what happened to him.

"small" in brackets makes text small; is there a tag to make text [large]large[/large]?

>>109614
http://tgchan.org/w/index.php?title=Hugs_Quest_Gaiden

>>109619
Thanks, that was the one.

What's the origin of the "orange shirt with an L on it" meme that comes up every time tgchan gets to design clothing for someone?

>>109818
I was confused about it for a long time to.

https://tgchan.org/wiki/Pok%C3%A9monQuest
https://tgchan.org/wiki/Steve%27d

>>109818
>>109820

It's a TGchan in-joke.

>>109833
I knew it was an in-joke; I just didn't know the origin of it.

>>109820
Thanks, that explains it.

GREEN has been gone for several years and will never come back, but his legacy remains almost as old as the boards. People who never knew him and never will still copy the endless tradition of the low effort MS Paint shirt.

Soon, if the board still stands, when many of the old guard have moved on, I would not be surprised if the Steve shirt phenomenon continues, upheld by people without knowledge of its origin or significance.

Thus is born a tradition.

>>109914
i wonder if it should get it's own entry on the wiki? as being somewhat tg-universal item?

>>109992
>>109820

>>15880
How far on the spectrum from QMing to RPing are threads on /quest/ supposed to (or allowed to) go? I've seen a few (very few) quests of the "everyone claim a character/region/etc and interact with each other" variety.

>>110272
Everyone is a character quests are uncommon because they're slow, hard to organize, and boards like this are not a good place to have multiple overlapping conversations. Kinda like how play-by-post dnd games work, but without easy identification by avatar/name and no private threads.

There have been a few of them. Last one I remember was a dwarfy simplified grid-combat thing where a turn happened once a week and anyone who didn't post was assumed to have passed out drunk ingame.

>>110272
>>110274
>"everyone claim a character/region/etc and interact with each other" variety.
>Last one I remember
>>/quest/765391 is still going strong.

To answer the original question, it can be as RPish as the OP wants. The example I linked is basically play-by-post Pathfinder, but I've seen examples all along the spectrum.

>>110275
> To answer the original question, it can be as RPish as the OP wants. The example I linked is basically play-by-post Pathfinder, but I've seen examples all along the spectrum.

What about a quest in which each player is mostly acting independently, with the QM accommodating each of them separately in parallel?

>>/quest/792051 seems unusual in style for /quest/, and it seemed appropriate to ask.

This emoji system seems invasive, it can be used as a manipulative tool; new posters can insult old posts by flooding them with negative reviews even when the posts were considered positive at the time of their relevance, thereby skewing public opinions about the site. Please tell me it's an April fools joke.

>>110284
Well if it is a joke then someone has to make an entire short quest with nothing but emoji before they remove it.

Instances of people applying the "pile of poo" emoji to dozens of posts at once show fairly clearly why this shouldn't stick around.

But it'd actually be nice if a variant of it did, with only a limited set of emoji available: numbers 1-9 (for easily tallied responses to simple options), +1/-1 (for agreement/disagreement, in response to either questions from the QM or other suggestions in lieu of "This." responses that don't have anything else to say), one of the heart variants and one of the confetti or similar variants (for "that was romantic/heartwarming" and "that was awesome", respectively).

>>110291
>numbers 1-9 (for easily tallied responses to simple options),
This would hurt multiple-choice quests because they wouldn't get bumped.

>+1/-1 (for agreement/disagreement, in response to either questions from the QM or other suggestions in lieu of "This." responses that don't have anything else to say),
This would make tallying votes way harder because you can't tell who's giving the +1/-1s. If you see two posts suggesting idea A that both have +1, that could be anywhere from four to two votes in favor of idea A.

>one of the heart variants and one of the confetti or similar variants (for "that was romantic/heartwarming" and "that was awesome", respectively).
This just seems unnecessary and slightly obtrusive

> This would hurt multiple-choice quests because they wouldn't get bumped.

Fair point, though any post elaborating on or justifying an answer would bump the thread. Most of the quests I've seen that offer options usually have less than half of the posts just quoting an option and saying nothing else.

> This would make tallying votes way harder because you can't tell who's giving the +1/-1s. If you see two posts suggesting idea A that both have +1, that could be anywhere from four to two votes in favor of idea A.

You wouldn't count +1/-1 on suggestions as a tally if the suggestion is just "do idea A that the QM suggested". You'd use them for support or disapproval of suggestions like "why don't we do/say thing ZZ9ZA instead".

> This just seems unnecessary and slightly obtrusive

Doesn't have to be those in particular; just suggesting that it'd be OK to keep a very small fixed set of emoji reactions.

As long as "pile of poo" isn't one of them. Too easy to snark a path through a thread that way.

As funny and cute the little emoticons are, they're a little distracting to me. If they do end up staying, an option to hide them would be appreciated.

>>110298
Don't worry, won't go away with april fools. It'll never decompose...

>>110274
>>110276
The biggest drawback with this kind of quest is you can lose specific players, especially if there's any kind of break in updates. Whereas with a traditional quest format, the suggestors are sort of interchangeable.

There's been a few quests this format, with mixed success. https://tgchan.org/wiki/Category:Quests_with_Individual_Players

Personally, I do kind of enjoy the play by post RP format, as I've never been able to stick with a schedule with a more formal group.

[ code ]starting a quest, I'm doing horrible

[ code ] heck [ code ]

>>110308
>>110309
Leave out the spaces in the tag:
xx xx xx xx xx xx xx xx

>>110305
> The biggest drawback with this kind of quest is you can lose specific players, especially if there's any kind of break in updates. Whereas with a traditional quest format, the suggestors are sort of interchangeable.

You also run into more players who don't know how to RP without being disruptive (specifying the actions of others, or going too far with their own actions). Doesn't come up in a quest setting, since the QM determines what suggestions to adopt.

How is it I have been on this site for this long and am still only now finding out about stuff like this?
>>/meep/28436

>>110297
>You wouldn't count +1/-1 on suggestions as a tally if the suggestion is just "do idea A that the QM suggested". You'd use them for support or disapproval of suggestions like "why don't we do/say thing ZZ9ZA instead".
That's what I meant. If person A suggests: "why don't we do/say thing ZZ9ZA instead," and person B suggests the similar-enough-that-you-could-do-both-at-once-and-make-everyone-happy: "why don't we do/say thing ZZ9ZB," then with the normal system you can just count them as two votes for the same thing, while with the +1/-1 system you can't tell if they're agreeing with each other, or if one person is agreeing with both of them, or if two people are agreeing with them independently.

I notice the little plus sign squares to open the box of emojis are still there in the archives. It's a little distracting? Depending on the amount of text in a post, they're sometimes sitting right up there next to the image.

I don't know if they even work in the archives (trying to add one myself makes one visible to me, but it didn't show up using a proxy to look at the same page), but if they don't there's not much point to them being there and if they do then I think they would be even more of a distraction. You don't want to be reading through a tense action scene or a dramatic love confession or whatever and have your eyes trip over a bunch of emojis midway.

>>110510
Looks like they're gone now.

>>110274
Pretty much. More game-like quests can be fun, but they are also a nightmare. I've run a few, from Black Company to Puzzle Dungeon. Please learn from my mistakes. They are like Monopoly. You will lose friends.

Help, I am unable to send pictures

>>110740
Some server stuff was getting updated yesterday. That's why tgchan was a little wonky.

Oh OK

>>110753
Any ideas when the problem is going to be fixed?

What does Error 2M mean? I've noticed that certain quester authors can upload while others cannot. But text and suggestions seem to work fine.

Anonymous 2017/04/18(Tue)19:53 No. 110778 ID: 7cb4d2
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>>110773
This is the error message in question, what does this mean?

>>110773
>>110778
>2M
Try being slightly S for a bit.

I don't know if this is the place to ask, and it seems others has used this thread for site related stuff anyway, but the Watch thread box (WT) has been broken for a while. Can't resize it anymore and, as of yesterday, it decided to set itself to the smallest it can be and I can't do anything to it. All I can do now is move the box around. But since the box is tiny, all the text just floats over site content, including buttons and paragraphs.

Uh that error was probably the max filesize being reset to 2MB when I updated things. All good now?

>>110782

Hmm. There were some broken javascript things I changed to different broken javascript things the other day. I now put them back? Tell me if it's still broken.

>>110793
It's fixed! Thanks! =3

Then I shall use this to report a bug as well.

There's a problem in the "Expand all images" link, where sometimes if you click the link, not all images will be expanded.

The bug happens if a thread contains a post with deleted file (eg. >>/quest/745254 ). If such a post exists, any images posted after such a post will not be expanded. The problem is in the fact that such a post will cause the kusaba.js expandimg function to crash with the following exception: "TypeError: element is null".

hovering over post mentions (eg. >>100) seem to be broken in some places, I've noticed it in 'I Am', and you can see it when hovering over one of the recent comments about the gym which has a mention in it, everything is overspaced. Is it just me?

>>111691
I just checked. Yep, everything is broken over there. Have not encountered it before.

>>111691
I think it's not playing nicely with the code tag, maybe?

>>111691
>>111815
Yes, ideally you don't want to put >> links inside formatting tags, because it will carry the formatting over into the hover-post. And the code tags break it the most significantly by adding tons of white space for some reason.

For example:
>>111815
>>111815
>>111815
>>111815

I like this thread. This is a good thread.

Bronze 2017/06/28(Wed)16:23 No. 113005 ID: 5cbc25
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I'm thinking of running a quest, but in a setting that's really large and has a lot of unfamiliar races in it. Literally the same one Puruu quest comes from, but it won't be about Puruu's (cause I don't know as much about them, what I did I've forgotten, and I want to try something a little different).

How do I make sure I don't overwhelm players with options at the beginning? There's at least a dozen race's they'll choose from, and I don't want to end up choosing one for the main character because three people made a plurality out of fifteen suggestions.

>>113005
One good way to teach about a complicated setting is simply let the audience ask questions as they come up. Lets things develop somewhat organically.

That doesn't work so well for char gen, obviously. There's no character to ask, yet. You're sorta stuck with giving something of an initial info dump on the options, or just leaving the options undeveloped and having us pick without all the information.

The other option, if you're concerned we'll make a "bad" choice (or one you'd be unhappy with anyways) is to decide the character for us, or narrow things down to a smaller field of choices.

>>113005
I suppose you could start by having us choose a continent to start the quest, and decide for yourself beforehand what kind of story you want to tell.
Pusmals don't seem like the type to adventure around the world, Lem find it difficult to understand why the less unified races would pursue a life of crime, Krulebs and Seek're are aquatic, etc.

Bronze 2017/06/28(Wed)22:28 No. 113019 ID: 5cbc25
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>>113009
>>113013
Pretty good ideas. I can actually limit selection to maybe 10 races by kicking out anything that's not liable to travel much, or which is hard to understand like the Lem and Geists.

Anonymous 2017/06/29(Thu)23:30 No. 113049 ID: 7d8417
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>>113019
Not a bad idea.
If you ever have some problems with something, just ask yourself "what would Ferok Kranos do?"

You might also be able to bounce a couple ideas off people in the IRC.

>>113019
>>113005
Ay sup Bronze! Glad you've found tgchan (and also wanting to make a quest).

From some... specific... Google searching, I stumbled on the Quest Wiki. And looking at the threads a bit, I'm sure it was a joke, but thinking on it, a silly Quest based around Strip Poker might actually be something I'd want to try...

Of course, I have no idea if that's really going to be feasible. It seems it was a thing for a bit, but it's also incredibly silly.

>>113154
I support strip-poker based content on this site

>>113176
Sounds like reason enough for me. I'm pretty new here, having only stumbled upon it from randomly finding the wiki when searching up strip poker... but from a skim (and that game) seems Quests here favor all original characters yeah?

>>113234
I would say so. If I had to guess, quests can get really involved and readers can get extra invested in the characters. So using existing character could be off-putting, especially since the only people that can make the characters accurate are the original writer(s).

If you make your own characters, then you are the one writing for them and you can shape them any way you want. For the readers, that character is a blank slate when the quest starts and we get to learn their personality through the quest.

>>113242
I see, I see. Well, I'll think up some things (characters) and whip something up... I have a vague idea in mind.

I have no artistic talent, but I guess that won't be too much of an issue when it comes to images for updates or such.

Cryptix!!SyAGD3MzZj 2017/07/12(Wed)17:00 No. 113467 ID: b0e767
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So, um, hi everyone! I'm a new QM here and just wanted to poke in.

As penance for my disturbance, have a picture of my spirit animal.

>>113467
No need for penance. Just have fun and make fun quests!

Just curious, but how do people feel about authors who run multiple quests? Do they prefer it if the author focuses on one for a period of time or for the author to alternate updates between quests?

>>114945
I don't think most people care either way as long as it isn't like a situation where you are either going to burn yourself out, or take six months to continue a quest

>>115105
Even if it does take six months to continue your quest... people can be patient. Your readers will still be there when you come back. This one will, anyway. Don't let worrying about that keep you from resuming.

>>114945
Honestly, most of the authors who stick around eventually end up running more than one thing in parallel, or switching between things with breaks.

Two questions, both of which use examples from the quest Dragon Romance (NSFW):

https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/809039.html#834886


How do you make this type of drop down menu? Also, can you change the buttons?


https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/809039.html#834355


What type of file is this? I wasn't aware that you could insert game files directly into threads. What all file types would work? .exe? .swf?

>>116540
Questions 1-3: Slinko is a god of tgchan and has access to dylan's magical coding powers.
Question 4: Supported embed types are right under the password field in the reply form: GIF, JPG, MP3, MP4, PNG, SWF, WEBM, ZIP.

>>116540
Giving all authors the ability to do that is on The List of site improvement ideas. Right now, doing so requires direct html and CSS coding, and putting the images on the server directly through FTP.

The code was done by Dylan, but in theory I can try to puzzle out how it works, and allow such a thing (in limited quantity) to other authors who ask for it.

>>116566

Luckily, I don't need to do anything of the sort for now, or even in the near future. Since I never considered such a thing, I never planned events to require the function. I could definitely see some benefits to it though.

I suppose the effect could be sort of replicated with a few hyperlinks, though admittedly clunkier...


Alright, thanks for the answers. If I ever need special coding, I'll ask about it in the IRC channel.

>>116566
Yeah, as nice as it sounds, allowing the authors to freely submit custom javascript is.. a bad idea to say the least. At a minimum, the submissions would need to be manually reviewed and approved. This is because javascript can alter any part of the website in any way it wants. It can also fetch and submit any data to any 3rd party website, which would be a privacy and security concern. For instance, someone could submit a script that would steal cookies, potentially stealing cookies of mods/admins, which would then allow the attacker to log in and wipe the website.

If such a feature would be added, then it would need to go through a parser which would generate a limited set of html/css/js like the current tags do, for instance, spoilers, or icons.

>>116590
Obviously it wouldn't be giving them a place to shove in javascript!

I'm not 100% on how it'd actually be implemented since I'm not a coder, but it'd be part of the post creation ...box? area?. an option you could turn on, then feed image and text into somehow.

the logistics might need figuring out, but it wouldn't be just "here shove in raw code this is safe"!

Even adding something restrictive like that could be a risk; you'd have to be careful to ensure input is sanitized and the mechanism is secure.

>>116598
I have faith Dylan would keep such a thing secure... or tell me the whole thing is a bad idea because it can't be made secure <:x

Can you add a script that prevents the exact same post (same name, email, subject, message, and file) from being posted within a minute of the first? Because duplicated posts are pretty common accidents.

Don’t suppose some kind folk can help me out with the wiki? I’m mostly just trying to get my author page up and running and right now it has me as “User: Harbard Grim” just trying to get it to say “Harbard Grim.”

>>119394
Never mind, I figured it out.

Hey, is there a place I can test syntax commands?

For instance; [fontfamily=Corsiva]TEST[/fontfamily].

If you write an ending early before the end, assume it will be thrown out the window through unintentional derailing.

>>119824
That's what /moo/ is for, yeah.

By the way I put in a new idea for who Happy is over on the draw thread. I think this one has a bit more weight to it than the old one.

>>121672
did you mean to post this somewhere else if so I can delete it?