Important Question: What would happen if we did not choose the Terratomorph mission repeatedly? I think our assumption that it would result in an Impossible-difficulty mission that was unskippable is what motivated our thinking.

Petition to either change mission selection or request heavy backup, maybe a bomb escort.

>>135113
I agree, I also want to hear from the author if we have a chance of doing this without loosing anyone.
I also feel like we're being subtly hinted at as to which missions we should take and people have been ignoring it.

I realized that we are getting a lot of benefit from selling/researching weapons looted from humanoid enemies. We should prioritize missions that have those types of enemies.

>>135113
>>135114

So, the intention with raising the difficulty to Nightmare, and only having Hard missions otherwise available, was to subtly point out that you haven't been improving your weapons or armor at all so it was probably a bad idea to pick this mission, especially.

I can't say that the mission is impossible. I'd suggest that it's probably not a good idea to actually fight the thing with your current resources. There will be some things to loot as well, so even if you retreat, it won't be a total wash.

>>135115
Although I didn't mention it in the update, you did salvage 4 ARs, and will get an opportunity to turn those in to Lurleen if you want to.

That came across as the situation getting worse, not the missions outpacing our progress. Also, don’t the plate carriers have to be built separately per unit? That’s ridiculously expensive.

>>135119
It is definitely also getting worse, so that's not an incorrect inference to make. And yeah, it wouldn't be possible for you to have 4 improved plate carriers at this point.

I thought mission difficulty was independent of our progress? Like, wasn't it supposed to indicate how difficult a mission would be if a squad of novices went in with standard equipment?

>>135123
Correct. And all the missions have gotten harder at this point.

...well, that means giving Rockit that arm was massively expensive. We can't do something like that again before we get better equipment. We need at least one set of improved armor, and at least one non-pistol gun upgrade. Though, upgrading pistols is so cheap and works well with the Sidearms upgrade that we may as well do it at some point.

If someone else loses an arm they're just going to have to help out at base for a while.

The problem is that the interface for upgrades does not contrast equally with our empathy. Here, we ignored our research into upgrading weapons and armor in favor of short-term assistance and charity, because our short-term memory meant that we didn't take any real stock into how obsolete our gear was becoming, and how that would result in more C.Org casualties and difficulties in the long run. A big (Warning! Gear is outdated relative to other C.Org cells) tag or (Priority) tag next to priority upgrades would have largely countered this problem.

I guess in any strategy game, there needs to be a balance between empathy and rationality, and we're not getting that because we don't know how or when to say there's an imbalance until we get hurt by the consequences.

Actually, could you add recommendations from base personnel during each upgrade screen?

>>135125
To be fair, Rockit has a little heart on her date status bar now.

>>135126
Balancing between the empathy for your units and their effectiveness in combat is sort of the decision you have to make as commander.

Asking the opinions of your units is always possible though. You should do it on dates!

>>135135
yeah but only 1 heart . . . that's a very long bar!
I honestly feel like everything is so expensive that we won't succeed empathically nor tactically even if we invested everything into one or the other.

it feels a lot like X-com: Enemy Unknown. except you can't reload your game or even start from scratch (if playing ironman)
we're making the best choices we can but are already doomed because of poor long term planning

for example the Terratomorph mission really feels like something that'll game over us if we ignore it too long, but doing the mission is also a bad idea.

Well that went better then expected, that is to say I expected people to try keep going.

>>135138
I think that's a very fair criticism.

I try to not punish decisions too harshly, but I also try to make sure there are substantial consequences for actions.

I would like to think that having a unit die is an inevitability, but so far you've all managed to squeak through.

I updated the C. Orgs relationships table in the wiki but... there is no link to the wiki anywhere in the quest ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Can we see the unlock requirements for skills that we've seen at least once?

Here are my guesses:
MOVE MOVE MOVE(double move has no penalty while using heavy weapon): use a heavy weapon during a mission.
Area Denial(burst fire aoe): use a heavy weapon during a mission and hit multiple targets in one turn?
Hit The Deck! (explosion resistance, but go prone): take explosion damage and live.
Medic(3 uses of medkit): use a medkit.
Nimble (extra CQC dodge): get hit multiple times by CQC attacks.
Presence (ranged calm, adjacent calm is 100% accurate): calm a unit
Shotgun Surgeon (extra damage with guns at point blank): shoot something with a shotgun at point blank? just realized this applies to ALL guns.
Headlong Charge (dodge enemy lookout): move when enemies are visible
Steady (extra damage when aiming): aim then shoot, may require a kill.
Walking Fire (aim bonus after a miss): miss multiple times?
CQC Specialist (melee damage bonus): defeat an enemy in CQC
Heavy Hitter (armor piercing): shoot an enemy with high armor multiple times? kill heavily armored enemies?
Eagle Eye (lookout with sniper rifle costs 1 action instead of 2): kill things with a sniper rifle? might require going on lookout at least once, but Baetriss never went on lookout with the sniper rifle, only with her shotgun.
Tough As Nails (resist panic once, Wounded at 1/3 health instead of 1/2): complete multiple missions without being wounded.
Guts (death/injury resistance): take a large amount of total damage during a mission?
Efficient Stowage (carry an item in addition to heavy weapon ammo): use a lot of heavy weapon ammo during a mission? or use heavy weapons in multiple missions?
Adrenaline High (excitement lasts longer): get excited a lot

MOVE MOVE MOVE(double move has no penalty while using heavy weapon): use a heavy weapon during a mission.
✔️

Area Denial(burst fire aoe): use a heavy weapon during a mission and hit multiple targets in one turn?
>>Use a heavy weapon with burst fire.

Hit The Deck! (explosion resistance, but go prone): take explosion damage and live.
✔️

Medic(3 uses of medkit): use a medkit.
✔️

Nimble (extra CQC dodge): get hit multiple times by CQC attacks.
✔️

Presence (ranged calm, adjacent calm is 100% accurate): calm a unit
✔️

Shotgun Surgeon (extra damage with guns at point blank): shoot something with a shotgun at point blank? just realized this applies to ALL guns.
✔️

Headlong Charge (dodge enemy lookout): move when enemies are visible
>>have a shotgun equipped and not be eligible for anything else/charge an enemy and not be eligible for anything else.

Steady (extra damage when aiming): aim then shoot, may require a kill.
>>Aim and shoot and not be eligible for anything else

Walking Fire (aim bonus after a miss): miss multiple times?
>>Have a 1h/normal gun equipped and not be eligible for anything else

CQC Specialist (melee damage bonus): defeat an enemy in CQC
✔️

Heavy Hitter (armor piercing): shoot an enemy with high armor multiple times? kill heavily armored enemies?
>>Kill heavily-armored enemies. Priority increases based on number killed.

Eagle Eye (lookout with sniper rifle costs 1 action instead of 2): kill things with a sniper rifle? might require going on lookout at least once, but Baetriss never went on lookout with the sniper rifle, only with her shotgun.
>>Bring a sniper rifle and not be eligible for anything else (but high priority against non-sniper-rifle skills)

Tough As Nails (resist panic once, Wounded at 1/3 health instead of 1/2): complete multiple missions without being wounded.
>>Go on multiple consecutive missions without being wounded or made a casualty.

Guts (death/injury resistance): take a large amount of total damage during a mission?
>>Survive a 50%+ death check

Efficient Stowage (carry an item in addition to heavy weapon ammo): use a lot of heavy weapon ammo during a mission? or use heavy weapons in multiple missions?
>>Use a heavy weapon for most of a mission and have at least 1 other Heavy Weapon skill

Adrenaline High (excitement lasts longer): get excited a lot
>>Spend most of a mission excited

>>135294
My bad, "Nimble" is get _missed_ by CQC attacks from enemies, not hit multiple times.

>>135294
>Survive a 50%+ death check
Oh god. Well, we should probably not try to get that one on purpose.

>Bring a sniper rifle and not be eligible for anything else (but high priority against non-sniper-rifle skills)
I guess the high priority overrode CQC Specialist.

Does Cold Weather gear take up the item slot?

Yeah. Just like waterborn, there's a trait that ignores it.

Species List
https://pastebin.com/9hAVppN7

Trait list
https://pastebin.com/3vGGCVjS

so you can make an informed decision about commissioning c.orgs

In case anyone is wondering, yes we can still expand the barracks, we just need the research to be unlocked.
I'm not sure we'll really be able to make use of very many more corgs but we can certainly fill rooms with demons! I suppose the best use of additional corgs would be to get more cold resistant corgs. Right now we can get cold res on Rockit and ViiVeean, though Rockit has Monstrous Body so we might want to avoid activating her until we have some better monstrous weapons. There IS a question of whether our units want to get Monstrous Form or not, though. If any are strongly opposed to it I suppose we can just not activate them.

I agree regarding Monsterous body
we shouldn't make major alterations to their bodies against their will

becoming a monster might seem cool to us, but they may have serious problems with it

Well every time I suggested we try to ask the corgs something it hasn't been used so I think we *can't* communicate directly with our corgs. Except on dates, I guess.

>>135663
On missions they have no way to communicate back with you.

Also, I like the ideas people have been giving about stuff to do at base.

Stuff like trading credits/gene points to other unit commanders is a good idea. Are there anything other people want to do during the base phase that isn't in the strictly-defined options?

Training? Spying on our C.Orgs? Some group activities for the C.Orgs, like a cake baking contest? Maybe some story elements other than the pee bandits?

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_aNWih4yY-6OZX61qVc-5u9JgtALkuwipIYmekmHmF8/edit?usp=sharing
The should-be-current Sexcom Relationship Matrix, now in updatable google doc format!

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Equipment:
Weapons, Armor and Items all on different sheets.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hMXWpX1d0YY4dijvX7mOLdSWMeBtjNoG1-PTGxuxnno/edit#gid=248897767
The pastebin still has more in-depth rules for everything.

What does the dig action do? Does Improved Diggy Hole let that corg move underground or is it more like, performing the dig action for free at the end of the movement?

>>135723
Performing the dig action for free at any point in their movement, but that lets you burrow sometimes.

So, for instance, if there's diggable terrain, you'd normally have to move up to it, and then dig it (which will move you through/in the diggable terrain, dependng on what it is.)

With improved diggy hole, you can move, move through/in the diggable terrain as part of that move, and then take your second action to do something else.

Here are two examples:

1) There's a fence and the ground is dirt. Digging would move you to the other side of the fence.

2) The entire ground is loose sand.
You can move through the sand by either using the dig action, or just moving with improved diggy hole.

Does that make sense?

>>135725
Oh, so, digging is a special action that generally involves movement as well, and improved diggy hole lets you do it for free.... does that mean in some situations the corg would be able to move further than normal in a single movement if there's digging involved in it?

>>135726
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. If they have diggy hole, they have to use an action and they'll get moved definitely less than if they were just moving over the ground. If they have improved diggy hole, they move at their normal rate of movement and dig through digging materials in their path as part of their movement. If you don't have either one, you can't take a dig action.

If it's an obstacle, like a fence you can dig under, with diggy hole, that's your whole movement, moving from one side to the other. If you don't have enough movement with improved diggy hole to get to the other side, you won't move to the other side of the fence.

>>135727
>If you don't have enough movement with improved diggy hole to get to the other side, you won't move to the other side of the fence.
Ah, that was the part I assumed worked to our advantage with Improved Diggy Hole. Nevermind then.

Please tell me which boy and which girl you want me to draw for chest day!

Baetriss and Noot!

Ixander and ViiVeean

Kayree and Ix.

ixander and kayree

>>135823
Yiann and Baetriss.

Kayree and Ixander!

I haven't read the post but I saw a request on Discord so I vote whatever causes a tie or comes closest to it. Alternatively, Steve shirts, depending on context.

update: I have now read the post and I vote Ixander and Kayree.

Sempai and Joannifer

Can I get a clarification on how Improved Pack Mentality works? It looks like it's Pack Mentality but it applies the buff to the entire group instead of just the unit with the trait. Does it have a penalty when the unit is alone, like the lesser trait? I'd guess it doesn't give penalties to allies when they're not nearby.

Yeah, I need to reword it.

"This troop and all adjacent allies gain a bonus to Calm and Aim as long as they are adjacent."

No penalties unless they'd have both traits.

That sounds really good! Though I suppose in most missions we're spreading out to use cover.

I don't see any species that have both.

>>135664
>anything other people want to do during the base phase that isn't in the strictly-defined options?
Interact with, or even just learn about, the other squads. We've got clues constraining the pee bandit's identity but there's no visible list of suspects for them to be narrowing down.

>>136938
This will definitely be addressed the next base phase.