>>182595
We don't want anyone to know we'd say "yes", especially not with Daddy right there.

>>182551

Don't forget to postcog it. It might all be in German but the more puzzle pieces we have the better, even if it's only visual.

Tiffany 2010/05/25(Tue)05:55 No. 182797 ID: f67bb2
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>"Tiffany, come check this out."

"What is it, dad?"

>"From what you told me, I'm guessing Thomas used to hunt down all sorts of creatures that were causing trouble."

"Yeah. So?"

>"So he must've used this map to track their movements, right?"

"I think so, yeah."

>"Now there's needle holes scattered all over the map. Except... here."

"Huh? Where?"

>"There are no holes in the map anywhere near our home. There's like a ten mile radius of zip, nada."

"Huh."

>"Yeah. I'm not all that sure I like the implications of that. And, uh, that note? I'm pretty sure that's a flight to Adeleine airport. Was Thomas expecting someone?"

"Don't know. Well, if he made a note then I guess he was. Or maybe he was going somewhere?"

>"Dunno. It looks like he was pretty actively hunting that Jakov guy. Too bad these notes don't show where he was hiding."

>"That's easy. He's campin out at the old hospital."

Stare.

>"What? I took 'im a note from the skull dude. Remember, boss?"

"Why didn't you tell me sooner?"

>"Uhh, you didn't ask, boss."

Tiffany sat down to try to think of a plan. Investigate the hospital? Maybe. She might be able to at least figure a few runes out from the book if she studied it enough. So that's also a possibility. Postcog the lollipop, yeah it seems like she has to move away from the anti-scrying runes before she can do that. But it's possible.

So, what should I do? Aaagh there's probably all sorts of other stuff I could be doing too.

What about that address in the clothes, where precisely would that be? Anywhere near one of his hunting marks?

>>182797
You know, gramps said that the house was protected. I'm guessing it has a pretty wide ward against monsters. Or had, I doubt it still does that since it was burned down. Maybe it does though, not that it would make much difference now.

I think that whatever the next step is, we first need some help. Get a hold of one of the Kinsley family, however we can. It might be that the expected flight was of a family member, does the note say when the flight should have arrived? I can only imagine they would head straight here after arrival if they were family and Thomas didn't meet them.

If you can't tell when they were expected or if it will be a while, then you may as well try to do some postcog.

Tiffany 2010/05/26(Wed)08:53 No. 183374 ID: f67bb2
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"I honestly have no idea what to do. Wait here maybe?"

>"That isn't a long-term plan, Tiff."

"Yeah I know. We've got to get help from someone. So far it's looking like either the Rothwalds or Kinsleys. We've got a phone number to the Rothwalds, and I'm guessing that someone from the Kinsley clan is on that flight."

>"Well, I guess you've got to pick a side. Anyway there's still plenty of time left before the flight arrives, so... What do you want to do?"

"Investigate, maybe.... I'm sure Thomas won't mind if we use his map. I'll use the, uh, blue pin for this place, and a red pin for that address you found. What was that again?"

>"Carling street."

"It's pretty close. Mulder, what's the address to the hospital?"

>"Address? Dunno boss. I'll take you if you want. It's maybe twenty minutes of flight away."

>"So, Tiff. Which location do you want to investigate?"

>>183374
Go with the Kinsleys. They're both going to use you, but with the Kinsleys it's less likely to be as parts.

Also? The first Rothwald you met tried to exploit your mother's capture by attempting to steal the book from you, meaning that they knew she was taken and decided to screw you over instead of helping her.
The first Kinsley you met suffered mortal wounds saving your ass after you did exactly what he warned you not to do, then went on to direct you to this safe house and forgive you for getting him killed before he died.

I'm not saying to burn any bridges, just that the Kinsleys are the only ones who would even consider helping you save your mother.

Meanwhile, I'd say it's a bad idea to chase down the openly hostile wraith that Thomas spent years trying to kill with no success. Lets go to not where it is.

>>183382
Backing this. While I'd like to find out more about the other families before committing ourselves to one, the Kinsleys have a much better record with us thus far.

That said, Thomas made it clear that basically no one would approve of our having that tome. Presumably, that includes his family. Before we go anywhere, seal it back up in the bag, and conceal the bag somewhere if possible. We don't want anyone even suspecting that we're hiding it.

Actually, if we could enchant a larger bag with a don't-notice-me spell, and put the existing bag inside that, it would probably be a good thing. Not as elegant as modifying the existing runes, but also much less likely to fuck everything up.

>>183374
I'm going to say go with the Rothwalds. If what grampa told you is correct they're a much more powerful and influential family than the Kinsleys.

You're more likely to find the necessary resources and training needed to defeat gramps and get mom back among them. You might also be able to use their influence to gain access to stuff you need from other families.

We don't know how to disperse Jakov, so check out the address nearby.

Also, I say we go with the Kinsleys. The Rothwalds want the book, so we'd have to be all secretive with them.

>>183415
We have to be all secretive with the Kinsleys, too. Thomas was clear that the Librarian, whoever that is, would take the book and lock it up forever if the clan got their hands on it. That means that we hide it from everyone.

>>183411
They may be more powerful and influential, but we've also been warned against them- both by Grandpa and by Thomas. Sounds a bit ominous for me; either of these families could likely trap us in their service and take unpleasant steps to keep us under control, but which is more likely to do so? I really wish we'd been able to ask the critter in the pit for a briefing on the sorcerous families.

Thomas also noted that our caution would serve us well, however. Whoever we contact first, we should not think of our intentions as signing on with them, but rather checking them out. I hate to say it, but Grandpa was right about one thing- ultimately we're on our own side here.

Tiffany 2010/05/26(Wed)11:32 No. 183436 ID: f67bb2
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"Let's check out this other address before messing with Jakov. Maybe after we figure out how to use the lance."

>"Ok. Think we should leave the stuff here?"

"... Yeah, at least until the flight arrives. I better hide the book somewhere, though."

Ten minutes later Tiffany, dad and Mulder are standing in Carling street. Number 1051c1 seems to belong to someone called Elizabeth Rogan, at least according to the buzzer.

>"So, Tiff, how do you feel about that Rothwald fellow?"

"I... didn't really feel like I trusted him that much. I mean he was nice and all, but it's pretty obvious he was there to try and steal the book."

>"Yeah he was setting off all my creep alarms. So you're going with the Kinsleys then?"

"Dunno. I guess I'll have to give it some more thought."

>"Ok. You wanna buzz the lady or will I?"

>>183436
Tiffany should do it. While dad might be the adult here, ultimately Tiffany is the one who will have to deal with all the nasty supernatural stuff; having dad act as the face would give the impression that she's weak and not responsible for her own actions. We can't afford to give that image to anyone we're interested in allying with. Actually, the only time we want to look young is when we're actively trying to get others to underestimate us.

Before ringing the doorbell, have Mulder do a quick sweep around the house, seeing if there's anything blatantly enchanted. Shiny.

Also, weren't we planning to attempt postcognition on the lollipop? Perhaps you should make a short detour and try that, before doing this. A bit more information would be nice.

I agree with postcoging lolipop, and ask Mulder to use detect magic.

What do we say to the person who open the door? How about something innocent like uncle Thomas asked us to come here to borrow ...

Something that would mean something to a necromancer but nothing to a common person....

I can't think of anything...

I think Dad should be the one to speak to whoever's in there. He is less likely to come under scrutiny. Remember, caution. If it turns out we SHOULD reveal our status as a magic user, then we can do the talking.

>>183560
Don't lie to anyone we might be planning to work with regarding Thomas' status, or attribute words he didn't say to him. That could really bite us in the ass.

But anyway, we have stuff to do before knocking, so we have a bit to think on the right way to spin it. And perhaps lurking down the street and watching the place might prove useful.

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)10:35 No. 184050 ID: 426169
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"Keep an eye on the place dad. I'm gonna see if I can get anything out of this lollipop."

>"'kay."

Tiffany steps into an alley and pulls out the lollipop. A familiar haze fills her mind as she strains to see through time.

On the good ship Lollipop, it's a sweet trip to... the... can-dy... shop...

What's this place? In front of a hotel? Ah! There's Martin. He's stopping by a candy stand. And he's talking with.... is that a police officer? It is!

It's all so hazy... What should I do?

>>184050
Try to focus a bit more.

>>184050
Focus on the police officer. Try to hear what he's saying. I'd recommend that you focus on Martin, but I don't know how sensitive mages are to people looking through their pasts- you might want to stick to looking at items and people around him, rather than him directly.

Of course, I could be paranoid. But Thomas did mention that caution would serve us well...

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)14:40 No. 184101 ID: 426169
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Ok, I'll try to hear what the officer is saying.

>"..."

>"All right, I'll keep you informed."

>"..."

>"You sure? That hardly seems necessary."

>"..."

>"Well, if you say so."

>"..."

Damn, Martin's all muffled. Can't hear a word he's saying. If I focused just a little bit more...

>>184101
The officer doesn't appear to be saying anything interesting at all. Focus more on Martin now.

No, watch for identifiable mark on the policeman. I think Martin has anti-precog shield.

We can find the policeman latter to find out about what Martin said.

>>184101
No, Tiffany. Play it safe. Martin could be shielded, or he might notice. In some situations taking risks is warranted; this is not one of them. It's simply not worth it to potentially tip your hand to the Rothwalds about your abilities at this juncture.

Keep your attentions on the policeman. Try to make out some sort of identifying marks, a name, wallet, whatever.

>>184101
Keep your attention on the officer and see what he does after he's finished talking with Martin.

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)15:49 No. 184118 ID: 426169
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Ok, I'll try to keep my focus on the officer.

Oh crap, he's leaving. Losing it.

Damn, guess I can't focus on stuff too far from the candy bar.

>>184118
Stay with the candy, then.

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)15:55 No. 184120 ID: 426169
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Ok, staying with the candy.

...

Looks like Martin has it on him. I'm not picking up any sort of blocking tho- OH CRAP HE LOOKED RIGHT AT ME. Like, right at me. Can he do that?

>>184120
You're looking at a vision of the past you picked up through a lollipop. If you can do that, be mindful that he can probably do more than that.

>>184120
I doubt it. This is POSTcog so it should be impossible for people to see you looking at them in the past.

Right?

Your postcog abilities have been noticed. GTFO NOW... or move your focus away from him fast...
You're gonna have to get moving if he did sense the cog.

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)16:11 No. 184130 ID: 426169
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Shit, if he really noticed me-

>"You know, ist funny thing. Ich hatte ein Premonition a few days ago. Ich hatte so eine Ahnung zat wenn Ich would come here today Ich würde find ze kleine Tifchan. And zere you are. Wie komisch, ja?"

>>184130
Agree with him that it's pretty comical. Premonition and postcognition seem to work in pretty fun ways when they collide.

So is this talking to the him of now, or are we getting into TIME PARADOX territory?

>>184130
Keep your cool, Tiffany. Do not run away; at this point that would be a bit rude. Social damage control time.

Complement him on the effectiveness of his abilities. He's obviously quite good.

>>184130
"You're quite skilled. So if you knew what Alexander was going to do to my mother and Thomas, why did you decided to come into my home and look in some silly empty wardrobe instead of helping them?"

>>184137
He left without finding out about Mom and Thomas. He never found out explicitly, anyway. So don't say this. Not only will not telling him make him probably know less, it'll also maintain the time paradox that he didn't do anything about it without forcing him to be a dick.

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)16:44 No. 184141 ID: 426169
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"Yeah, it's pretty funny, huh. You're pretty good."

>"Danke schön, kleine Tifchan. Ich muss confess, ist most unexpected. Zat Ich did not detect deine kleine gift ist sehr komisch. Ich bin sehr gut at detection."

"Then you knew what Alexander was going to do. Why didn't you help mom?"

>"Ah, nicht misverstehen! Ich bin keine Orakel! Ich haff only ze tiny glimpse of what ist to come. What happened mit deine Mutter ist unglücklich. Wir will deal with ze Alexander Situation in time."

"My dad's probably waiting for me. I better-"

>"Ah, aber dein Vater ist ins Polizei... What ist ze word... custody. Ins Polizei custody. Zey found ze Body ins dein House."

"Oh no!"

Martin reaches out towards Tiffany.

>"Ich believe it would be besser, wenn Sie kommst mit mich."

>>184141
KICK HIS NUTS
*advice tiffany*
RUN THE FUCK AWAY

>>184141
Tell him that he's using a rather crude form of manipulation here, really you would expect something better from the great Rothwalds.

Inform him that you're not going anywhere with him or speaking to him until he gets your daddy out. And if he isn't willing to do that then you have some stuff that the Kinsley family would just love to get their hands on, and you're sure they would be able to get your daddy out of jail quite easily.

>>184141
Tear your shirt open, punch yourself hard in the nipples, then run to the police and sob horribly about how he was hurting you.

>>184141
Better get the hell away from him.

Say, "Shaddap, ya Nazi!", kick him in the balls, then run away screaming "HELP! RAPE!"

Not a-fucking-gain. Mulder! Go for the eyes!

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)17:16 No. 184161 ID: 426169
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"I ain't going anywhere with you!"

>"Ich was worried you might take zat Einstellnung. Entschuldigen Sie."

Tiffany turns to run, when
[animated]

>>184161
Reall I was expecting more from people priding themselves in being good manipulators. They should atleast be able to match grampa in it.

Oh well, lets see where we wake up and what's going on there.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/05/27(Thu)17:27 No. 184166 ID: c4c313
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>>184161

OK dammit he used awesomeface against us. Nothing we can fucking do against that.

In all seriousness though, same thing as the wardrobe ward, a sort of shape like a blade or a window. The forks around it probably reinforce it. The double plus is sorta like the mouth in that Soul Anchor, and below is an absolutely rune, and then a bowl shaped rune we haven't seen yet.

Bite your finger! Attempt to draw a reversal rune on the floating...rune thingy he just summoned. Blow it up!

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)17:40 No. 184167 ID: 426169
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Tiffany slowly opens her eyes, half expecting a dark cell somewhere underground.

What she sees instead is a luxurious hotel suite. Huh.

The smell of food wafts in from the next room.

>>184167
Check the next room. He's going to try to ply you with niceties, most likely in an attempt to get the book's location out of you.

>>184167
Follow the smell of food.

>>184167
Check inventory. Anything missing?

Tiffany 2010/05/27(Thu)18:16 No. 184181 ID: 426169
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Tiffany gets up and walks quietly to the next room.

It's a well-lit living room. A plate of food has been laid out on the table, covered by a dome. A nearby service trolley has a set of dirty dishes on it.

Across the room, Martin is reading the paper.

>"Ah, you haff awoken. Sehr gut. Do not be alarmed, es ist nicht mein Intention to be of harm. ... Ah, do not be giving me zat look. You are kein Prisoner. You are free to go, whenever you wish. Ich want only to offer mein Apologies, and offer dich Supper. Would Sie have eine kleine Talk mit mich?"

>>184181
"I see the silver tongue of the Rothwalds is overstated.
Had you considered how menacing your approach would be? Telling me my father is in jail and then saying I'll go with you without even a 'would you kindly'? Hardly an ideal approach.

I'll overlook that, however, since we have business to discuss.
Forgive my brusque manner, but I'm sure you understand that I have much work to do and little time for pleasantries; what is it that you want, and what are you prepared to offer?"

I'm confused, are you physically or spiritually there? I mean what the fuck, did you just alter the past or was this meant to happen?

Can postcog save Tony in the past?

Or... no inventory check, I guess? Knowing if we're missing anything would be nice, and a rather important conversation topic.

>>184181
Inform him that he was been very rude, but that we will talk with him if he wants. Go stand close enough to talk with him, but far enough away that he couldn't immediately grab you.


We the players need to decide how much we're willing to spill here about our abilities. He knows we've got postcognition, obviously; has he also seized our forbidden tome? What about our notebook, with its notes on runes? Has he looked at them? If he has, there's little point in concealing our abilities as a young magician. But if he hasn't, would it be wiser to reveal them anyway, and attempt to negotiate?


>>184189
Do not talk like we're thirty. We are not, and with possessions being thrown around it is to our advantage to appear young, if surprisingly capable and young.

Ask him what exactly he wants. (We already know but his answer should tell us how much he knows)

Ask him if Dad is really in jail, and if he thinks there's a way to get him out.

Pinch cheeks. He may just have locked you up in a dream/postcog. Try to contact Mulder.

Make sure not to get mind controlled again.

Ask him in what the hell just happened, in a more polite manner.

>>184190
He already explained it. He has precog. Our postcog triggered it, so we saw him and he saw when we were looking back from. He used that knowledge to set up an ambush.

He doesn't know about Mulder yet. So hold that card ready for when you have the chance to make a trump. Though being a native German speaker does make him more likely to be descended from former members of the Nazi party than if he were speaking in Hindi, that's not a safe assumption to make yet. Let's look at what you know so far.

1) He is from one of two powerful families who might be interested in your life.
2) The first thing he did upon meeting your dad is lie to him. Once you lie to someone, you have to earn their trust back. That might not be all bad though, as your mom also lied to dad. And so did you, really.
3) He kidnapped you. That's pretty low on the trust scale.
4) On the other hand, you were admittedly swearing at him and running away at the time.
5) Thomas said that you should beware of the Rothwalds, that they're after the book, and that they would return with smiles and promises, and Thomas took a bullet for you.

So basically, you have no reason to trust this guy, and a lot of reasons not to trust him. Sweet talk that rat bastard right back, and try to emphasize the adorable young ignorant girl aspect. Don't tell him a thing about the book, about Thomas's hiding place, or about anything! You just were lost and were looking for your dad. You just want to go to the jail and see him right away!

Try to figure out if he's put any kind of hex on you or the nearby vicinity to try and influence your mind or your perceptions. When you get a chance (and a writing implement) without him watching, surround yourself in a circle and put "Detection" on the outside and "Seeing" on the inside. That's just a guess though. Anyone with better ideas please help!

Let Dad buzz the doorbell.

>>184181
Sit down and have some food. Tell him to talk if he wants to do that.

"Where is Dad?"

Tiffany 2010/05/28(Fri)18:00 No. 184577 ID: 426169
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Tiffany nods slightly and takes a seat near the food. She tries to sort through the confusion of the previous events as Martin takes a seat across from her.

The return to reality from her postcog was so sudden it left her disoriented, but she's fairly certain that when she heard Martin speak they were both back in the present, in the alley. Tiffany thinks he must've caught a glimpse of her when she was scrying him, and tracked it down. At least nothing was taken from her when she was unconscious, not that she was carrying anything much. A couple of felt-tip pens and the amulet. Dad put everything else in the safe house. There doesn't seem to be any spells put on her, or any magic around at all in fact.

"You wanted to talk, so... talk."

>"Ah. Well, Ich muss offer ein Apology für last night. Ich did not know zat Sie sind ein Magician. Natürlich Ich would haf taken you to ze Familie Wenn Ich had known om dich. Ich belieft zat you und dein Vater were safe while inside ze Wards. Ich war ordered to make sure zat Alexander would not find ze book. You understand, ja?"

"I suppose."

>"Sehr gut. Und Ich muss apologize also für makink you sleep. Ich did not want you to go to Polizei custody. Ich was afraid zat you would do somethink regrettable. You haff become sehr politisch. Verzeihen Sie mir. Umm, forgive, ja?"

"So dad's really in jail?"

>"Leider ja. Ze pistol zey found in dein Vater's pocket is makink things kompliziert. Umm, complicated. Ich will try unt get ze charges dropped. In ze meantime, you are herzlich eingeladen, hier zu bleiben, umm, you are velcome to stay hier if you wish. If you need anyzing, bitte fragen Sie mich. Ask me. In fact, Ich habe a little somezing für dich."

Tiffany eyes Martin varily as he takes a cell phone and an envelope out of his pocket, placing them on the table.

>"Eine junge Dame should haff her own Telefon, ja?"

"...Why do you want to help me all the sudden?"

Martin pauses, and gives Tiffany a serious look.

>"Deine Mutter ist mein Vetter. Mein Cousin. One Ich betreaut. Cared for. Was Alexander zu ihr hat, ist unverzeihlich. Unforgivable. But for now, Ich kann nur help dich. Ich bin nicht dein Feind. Not dein Enemy."

Martin motions to the phone and envelope.

>"Of course, zese come with no strings attached."

Tiffany sits quietly for a moment, thinking about this, the envelope and cell phone in front of her.

>>184577
Right, no strings attached. There usually are in these circumstances.

But time for some questions. Ask him what the Rothwalds stance is on necromancers and specifically training them.

Also ask him how he will get dad out if he can't get the charges dropped.

>>184577
"Alright. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt.
If you're serious about helping, then I need you to do a few things.

The first is to help me contact the Kinsleys.
We both know that the Rothwalds are going to want Alexander stopped as quickly and decisively as possible, while the Kinsleys are going to do what they can to save mom.

The second is that you contact two Rothwalds; the most trustworthy ritualist and necromancer. I need training, and I doubt the Kinsleys would look kindly on the subject matter.

I'm not going to pick which family to support, if either, until this is over. This is too important for petty things like that.

Suggestion 2010/05/28(Fri)18:35 No. 184594 ID: c00244
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>>184577
Well. As Martin presents the facts, there's little reason not to give him a chance. That said, fool me twice shame on me... let's go friendly, but try for more information and keep our options open. I suggest the following lines of questioning, in no particular order.

"If you cared for Mom, why haven't I ever met you?" [Objective: Get more data on that side of our ancestry and our relationship to them]

Take the phone, and check in the envelope. "Thank you. That is very thoughtful... as long as it's not bugged. I would like your phone number, and that of someone in Thomas' family, please. He asked me to tell them how he died." [Objective: First, get contacts. Second, demonstrate that we don't intend to be easily tricked.]

"All right, Martin... let's see if we're friends." Grab paper or a napkin or something, sketch out pic related with a pen. "This is what you used on me, right? Teach me how and why it works, please." [Objective: First, learn magic; second, learn how willing Martin and/or his faction are willing to teach us; third, demonstrate talent/raise our value as a potential recruit.]

>>184594
I agree with this.

Tiffany 2010/05/29(Sat)03:32 No. 184805 ID: 426169
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Tiffany takes the offered cell phone and envelope.

>"Ich took ze Liberty of adding some numbers."

"It's not bugged, right?"

>"Natürlich nicht. If you not trust Ich, feel free another zu kaufen", Martin said and gave a little nod towards the envelope.

Tiffany took a look inside the envelope. There's like two- three hundred dollars in here.

"... Thanks I guess. So how come I've never seen you around, if you so cared for mom?"

>"Zat ist a bit of long story. Politik. Deine Mutter wanted... Ruhe. To be left allein. Alone."

Ok, maybe I can mooch some magic off hi- is that Mulder on the windowsill?

try thinking at mulder to keep quiet.

>>184805
Seems quite likely that it is. Lets see if that mental link is good for something, think to him that he should be quiet and just observe and try to sense what magical stuff there is in there.

Ok, time to ask Martin on the Rothwalds stance on necromancy. That one is rather important.

Tiffany 2010/05/29(Sat)08:54 No. 184851 ID: 426169
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*Mulder, keep quiet!*

>*Roger that, boss.*

"Tell me, Martin, what do the Rothwalds think of necromancy?"

>"Depends on what you mean. Some aspects sind verboten. Others sehr gefärlich, very dangerous. But es ist nützlich, use...ful. Wir haff some people study zat. Auch es ist causing politisch Probleme. Warum fragen Sie?"

"I was wondering why you guys don't like Alexander."

>"Ah. Wir haben our own Reasons. Seine Knowledge ins ze Rituals of ze Stadt der Toten has nozing to do with zat."

"I see. Hmm.... That spell you put on me, what do the runes mean?" Tiffany asked, while drawing out the symbol.

>"Well, ze teaching of outsiders ist verboten, but... Ich guess Sie sind almost in der Familie. Ok. Ze outer symbol ist ze Blade. Combines ze runes inside. Umm.. Tightly. Inside are ze Sunset, Truly unt ze Cradle. Sunset ist close, nacht, Dunkelheit aber sleepink. Truly means, umm.... Very much? Ze Cradle ist gently, no harm. Ze little cross unter ze Blade ist Forward. Direction, ja? Haben Sie other kvestions?"

>>184851
Time to ask about dad and how he will get him out. Also ask about how to free mom from grampa.

>>184851
Since my line of questioning isn't happening, ask how he displayed the rune in the air like that.

You may wish to apologize for being untrustworthy. While it is quite understandable and necessary and this man may be all smiles and polite, doesn't mean you shouldn't be polite. Explain to him that your don't trust anyone anymore thanks to your grandfather's betrayal and that it seems to be the best policy right now. He's a grown man, he should understand.

>>184868
That's not saying that we're untrustworthy, it's saying that we don't trust others. There's a rather important distinction. The thing to be apologizing for, should we do so, would be not trusting Martin.

>>184873
'Swat I meant. Too bad we can't edit our posts.

Yes, apologize for not trusting him before.

Continue not trusting him, but still apologize.

Remember what happened with the last guy who apologized for knocking you out.

Tiffany 2010/05/29(Sat)13:55 No. 184953 ID: 426169
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"I'm sorry for being so suspicious. I'm having a hard time trusting anyone after Alexander."

>"Think nothink of it, Tifchen. Ist easy zu verstehen."

"So... How are you going to get dad out?"

>"Ich habe some Freunde mit ze Polizei. Ich will try to get zem to drop ze charges. Wir kann maybe visit later."

"... That'd be nice. I'm sure he's worried sick. So, uh, what are you planning to do about Alexander?"

>"Zey are sendink die Schattenjäger. Zey will handle Alexander."

"Oh... I... I guess they will."

>"Why so niedergeschlagen, erm... crest fallen?"

"I.... I guess I was looking forward to fighting Alexander myself."

>"Ho ho, battling wicked wizard ist nicht für kleine Mädchen. Nein, wir will handle zat."

"Oh."

>"If it ist training zat you are wantink..."

"Yes?"

>"Zen you are velcome to come with us back to Deutschland. You can become a real member of ze Familie. Und zen wir can give you all ze trainink zat you wish. Und haff ze company of junge Zauberer like you. Would you like zat, Tifchen?"

"Perhaps, but I will need to learn more about everything before I get wrapped up in necromancy politics and such."

>>184953
Shake your head
"Maybe someday, but I'm needed here.
How hard will it be for them to free mom from Alexander's control? The Schattenjäger have a ritualist that's skilled enough for that, right?"

>>184953
"Sorry, Martin, but I can't leave my dad. Maybe... once he's free, I could talk to him about it. But not right now."

>>184953
Tell him that you have some stuff to wrap up here before you can head over to europe. Which is probably something you would have had to do anyway, both the Kinsley family and the Rothwalds have their main branches and bases there.

Also ask him how they intend to get mom free from grampas control.

"I'd like to know all my choices first... what do you know of the Kinsleys?"

Tiffany 2010/05/29(Sat)16:47 No. 185012 ID: 426169
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"... Maybe. But not now. I've got things I need to do before I could go to Europe. And I can't leave my dad."

>"Natürlich. Vielleicht after zese matters haff been taken care of?"

"Maybe, but what about the Kinsleys? Maybe they want me to join them as well?"

>Ahhah, die illustre Kinsley Clan. Zat ist nicht sehr likely. To zem, you are nothink but spawn of ze heretic. Zey would not accept you easily. Haha, und wir haben all ze cool toys. Zey are sehr altmodisch. Old fashioned. Set in old ways. Wir haff so much more to offer für dich. What do you say, Tifchen? Wollen Sie mit uns kommen? Will you come mit uns, after dein Vater ist frei?"

>>185012
He still hasn't told you how they plan on getting your mom free. Taking down Alexander is not the same thing as freeing and saving mom.

(Also, Schattenjäger will likely kill mom. We may have to the enemy of Gabriel Knight. Anyone remember his secretary's phone number from the game?)

>>185012
"If what you say is true... then I probably will, yes. But I'll want to see for myself that they would think that. Thomas died protecting me, you know... I wouldn't want to think his family would hate me."

"Anyway, how are those... uh... 'Schattenjäger' (is that how you say it?), going to save Mom?"

Ah, but we asked Thomas that exact question. He told us that the deeds make a Necromancer evil... although he did say that they were generally outcasts.

Inform him of Thomas's stance on the matter.

Tiffany 2010/05/29(Sat)17:46 No. 185028 ID: 426169
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"Yeah but... Thomas said that necromancy isn't totally forbidden by the Kinsleys... And he died protecting me, so I feel like I owe them."

>"You will find zem ein bisschen mehr verklemmt zan unsere Familie. But Sie can think on zat."

"So, uh... those Shatten-jegers -"

>"Ze Shadow Hunters."

"Right, how are they going to help mom?"

>"... Ich weiss nicht. Most likely zey... cannot. Zey will haff to use any method zu Alexander defeatink. Und... savink deine Mutter ist sekundär. Sie wird wahrscheinlich sterben. She ist likely to be killed."

5Copper!OcWN4aulz6 2010/05/29(Sat)18:07 No. 185031 ID: d4872d
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>>185028
ok so we are a carebearing, political necromancer that may be hated by all because we are the grandchild of alex the heretic.

oh and mom died. maybe.

let mulder in, try to find him food.

>>185028
"Ok, I'm going to tell you something you know, so that you'll know I know it. Mom sided with the Kinsleys and thought the Rothwalds were power-hungry and amoral.
To be honest? What I've seen so far hasn't disagreed with any of that. Luckily for you I'm pragmatic.

Here are my goals, in order of importance:
1: Save my mom.
2: Stop Alexander.
3: Resurrect Tony.

If the Rothwalds aren't going to save my mom, then get me in touch with the Kinsleys. I don't care about the family feud, but if she dies I'm going to go with the people she supported in life."

>>185028
Well then tell him to get cracking on finding ways to save mom or you're going to have to do it yourself.

>>185032
From what I understand Mom just tried to stay out of it all. I don't think she supported either family in any real way. Killing grampa was probably for alot more personal reasons.

>>185033
she problaby had to hunt him down because he tried body exchange before. maybe not with mom.

we may need to face the fact that actual ressurection may be impossible. unless we develop it.

granpa did not ressurected himself, mom is claimed dead and a clan with necromancers havent stirred anything to save her. also its possible gramps has the skull w/ mom for extra safety.

I think Grandpa pulled a Voldemort with the skull.

Also, I say we ditch the Necromancer clans and join the Reaper.
We can learn Death-Fu and become his apprentice.

>>185033
She was with the Kinsleys when shit went down, and said to seek out Thomas if anything went wrong.
Besides that? It works just as well as a bluff. He's precog, not postcog, so if we say she was with the Kinsleys he can't easily confirm or deny that either way.

Apologize that means you cannot take him up on his offer. Your goal is to set right what Alexander made wrong, which entails getting Tony and Mom back.

(psst guys the chapter just ended)

>>185032
I wouldn't mention resurrection. It could be impossible and that Grandpa was just manipulating us using it as false bait, or it could be forbidden... and anyway, we won't be able to manage it until we get more study, so it's a null point. Part of not trusting others is not sharing your goals with them.

Also, I would not recommend openly declaring that we're planning to side with one family or the other- as long as they think they can still recruit us, they'll use the carrot. We don't want to face their sticks. So moderate your words a bit, please.

>>185036
We have seen no evidence whatsoever that the Reaper has any faction to "join". Every time we've seen him, he's been hostile to us. Why do you think that this is even possible?

We should go to the discussion thread.