Advisor 2012/10/13(Sat)13:43 No. 462466 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>462461
A ringworld. Are you sure this is what would be best for Lily? Keep in mind that she/he is your concern more-so than this world.

I will make it so, if you think this is acceptable.

ringworlds are impossible to maintain and it is like impossible for the to NOT get hit by giant rocks. so no, give us a normal shape with a big ass moon.

slow down author, otherwise it's going to be us two guys arguing rather then getting a real vote

Advisor 2012/10/13(Sat)13:51 No. 462472 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>462470
NO.

... okay.

Ringworlds are awesome, and we should keep it. If there are any giant rocks left in the system we didn't cannibalize to build it with, that's what the defense systems are for. We should be fine for anything smaller than a planetoid.

>>462473
what defense systems? near as i can tell lily is the only sentient being ANYWHERE. who the fuck built the defense systems and who is maintaining them? NO ONE.

No space. Space is bad for life. Smaller pocket universe that is a paradise island!

>>462479
We created a ring world out of nowhere. That's land, sea, mountains, sky, and possibly life forms. Why can't we include laser defense grid on that list? :p That's like taking the form of a snake but not being allowed to include the venom.

>>462482
no that is like being a snake and strapping an ion cannon to it. the ring world is supposedly natural formation somehow. it's not a metal ring with dirt on the inside

make it two rings conjoining at a right angle.

That...doesn't make sense. Ringworlds simulate gravity be spinning. If the two rings are joined together then one of them isn't going to have proper gravity.

>>462484
It's more like being a robot and having an ion cannon. It's not like ringworlds form naturally.

Advisor 2012/10/13(Sat)15:07 No. 462511 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>462482
Any planet that is created will not contain anything until you specify it. Lily is the only life anywhere, and your mission is to help her to grow.

A planet is a good step, yes, but I will create no life forms or even land or climates without your guidance. You are the creator.

A ringworld, on second thought, would be far too advanced for me to build at this point. Like Lily, I am also new. Perhaps as a second planet, when maintaining it is more feasible?

Perhaps, before you build a place for Lily to live, you should build Lily. You may have a much better idea of what she needs once that is complete. Until she is given a home, I will protect her from harm.

>>462506

it also spins. the points on meeting change. the point of my suggestion was to make it more defensible and also not completely be identical to the one from Halo by giving it a new... spin.

She looks pretty good as is. Cute and cuddly! :3

h/sergal

>>462516
As is, Lily has no means of ingesting food.
She also cannot travel, nor can she breathe.
She also cannot hear.

If these needs are not met, she will die within 48 hours.

Suggested changes then:

*Chorophyll in the skin to create food.
*Straw mouth to suck up water.
*breathing hole on back.

Traveling and hearing is for smucks, teleportation and electromagnetic senses are where it's at. Do that, somehow.

well a mouth and hands and legs are a good start, some food producing trees and bushes would be great.

Some sort of teeth or mandibles would be better than a straw. They'd provide a cutting edge without needing to create tools; also, we can't assume all nutrients are going to be in liquid form, and Lily will need more than just photosynthesis if she's ever going to be particularly active.

Actually, the ability to create other life-forms would be extremely useful. If Lily can seed her surroundings with small plants of some kind, she could leave them to grow and provide a future food source.

Assuming, of course, that the planet doesn't come with an ecosystem already in place.

For limbs and breathing, an amphibious setup might be good - a combination of lungs and gills or oxygen-absorbing skin. If she's the only life, she might as well take advantage of every habitat.

Gripping appendages, whether they're hands or pincers or tentacles or mouth-palps, would also be helpful.

Hey guys lets get started on the environment before giving our live adaptations?

>>462536

The implication seems to be that we'll get to design Lily's environment to suit her, which seems much more convenient than the usual setup.

Still, if it's going to be a planet, then land, water, air, and edible plants or other creatures are some pretty basic things to include.

Actually, how large an area can we control? Would it be possible to make an infinite flat world instead of a planet? Can we fill space with air for easier travel?

Advisor 2012/10/13(Sat)18:02 No. 462579 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>462543
I have contacted my supervisor.

I am able to create planets, but I am no all-powerful being. My supervisor has informed me that I am not permitted to change the solar system, or 'space', as they say, which includes things like making its entirety oxygenated.
I can, however, create planets as well as other life forms inside of it. I will not create things like tables or desks, however; that would be toying with the progression of the planet, which I am not permitted to do. I may only make things which could be considered 'natural'.

As far as I know, I've been given an entire universe to play with, but it is all for Lily.

I see you are calling Lily a 'she'. I have taken this opportunity to shift her gender to reflect this.

Please continue to voice your suggestions for Lily's body.

she is large and has eyes all over her body so she can see everything.

>>462587
Nah. Eyeless, with freaky EM senses instead of sight.

A "Smoke Ring": A torus of gas (your normal OxyNitroCO2 mix) dust and water, in orbit as a ring around a small hot star, orbiting in that star's 'Goldilocks Zone'.

Basically, it's one big atmosphere with very minimal gravity (though very long things would be subject to the Coriolis effect), plenty of clouds along with globules of liquid water, and occasional rocky agglomerations.

>>462588
Eyeless, uses microwave and UV-pits to see surrounds.

Her body must be composed of self replicating cells. That will allow her to continue to improve and adapt to her environment. The planet must be composed of suitable minerals such that one could construct such cells from them and sunlight.

Specifically, we do need a sun. Some sort of limitless source of useful energy. If possible contain it within Lily herself. Otherwise, orbiting at a safe distance is fine.

>>462630
Make Lily a sun.

... let's just go with human template and cange if needed. people get infinite options and they go a little....


yeah.

Actually, I think you were the first to call Lily "she:"
>>462511
But that probably would have happened anyway.

For basic body structure, I'd suggest something like a eurypterid (see picture). Sturdy, elegant, and easy enough to make intelligent and amphibious with a few minor alterations.

It would be convenient if Lily could survive by eating nothing but the most common material on the planet. And it might be fun to have an entire planet made out of, say, cheese or chocolate or something.

Chrysalis 2012/10/13(Sat)21:08 No. 462675 ID: bbee3d
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>>462674
See this picture, that is.

>>462674
Lily the mouse on cheese planet

the goal is to make her thrive. just eating and sleeping for all eternity doesn't sound that great.

Advisor 2012/10/15(Mon)12:03 No. 463232 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>462674
>Actually, I think you were the first to call Lily "she:".

That is unfortunate. I will be hearing about this.

I have heard your responses. I am shocked there are so many of you.
This is the Lily I have come up with, based on what you have said. She is an amphibian whose skin becomes callous closer to her tail, which is equipped for swimming. She can breathe underwater and also has small, flat teeth, and her diet will consist of tree sap and pollens, as well as insects, if you choose for those to exist.

Is this acceptable?

>>463232
Sure, looks good. Did electromagnetic sensory organs make the cut?

>insects, if you choose for those to exist
Sure, those should exist. They serve an important part in many life cycles (pollination of flowering plants, breaking down of larger deposits or organic matter, a good early block for many food chains).

Advisor 2012/10/15(Mon)12:34 No. 463239 ID: 7ad8b7
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>>463235
Yes. Lily is able to feel the contractions of the muscles of other creatures when underwater, though the sense works limitedly while on land.

Ooh, neat. Well, I'm ready to hit compile, if no one else has anything to add.

Reproductive system!

Give her three forward facing horns like a Jackson's Chameleon

>>463239
to expand upon this eloctrosence idea, why not further develop these organs to generate a magneto-hydrodynamic field. this will allow her to generate some small amount of thrust in a fluid, like water. thus will she be much more maneuverable that would be expected from her appearance alone.

>>462511
also, if a ring world is unfeasible, why not make a gas-torus. easier to maintain, safer, and at minimum 500% more awesome. Integral Trees status.

Give her magnetic field sensors, and echolocation.

Of course we have to have insects! What's a planet without insects?

As for Lily, I think we've reached sufficient levels of functional cute. A reproductive system might be useful - perhaps an asexual method, like parthenogenesis or budding, if she's the only one - but I think the rest is covered.

I would presume that if she has a defined gender that a reproductive means of some kind is implicit.

Not really:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis

>>463420
Not a counter example. Parthenogenesis is still a means of reproduction. And depending one the case/species, still involves gendered individuals.

A proper counter example would have been a species with gender, but without reproductive means (although a species that does not reproduce kind of breaks many definitions of species, or hell, life).

Sorry, I misread you reply as the means instead of a means. :/

hey, queen bees have kids without having sex all the time. I'm sure Lily can crap out a few drones as well, and if those drones have sex with their mother she could have soldiers and shit. which in my head is how beehives work.

>>463782
drones come from other hives and emit a 'I AM A DRONE' pheremone so the other bees don't try to sting him to death. also drones have sex and then die. not because the queen eats them or anything their dick and testicles rip off and stay lodged inside the queen and the drone dies of blood loss. the queen then never mates again and her blood supply hooks up to the new part and keeps it alive while it makes as much sperm as she needs.