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>Ah, this is something we were planning already. Modification of the [Crucible] to utilise inorganic resources. I think we should take a Minister of Industry for our first pick.
Really? My first instinct was for a [Minister] of Natural Resources. Since both seemed geared towards protecting the overall [planet]. Though you all seem to understand more about what we can do with [funding] and [resources].
Normally the [Crucible] can break down a very small selection of inorganic compounds into [resources] that can feed [leviathan]. But if you need [resources] to… make us both stronger, then it might be better to start with Industry as well.
>[Ghoul] seems the most reliable to me, especially for containing a fire until we step in to extinguish it. Pessimism doesn't sound too dangerous (and hey, it means you're rarely disappointed).
>So, faster healing, but a depressing outlook.
>[Ghoul] seems useful given that every recovery op has had higher expenses than income, which [Ghoul] may be able to change. Perhaps it's personal bias, but his weakness actually seems like a positive as being prepared for worst case scenarios may be useful.
Being able to recover from mistakes seems important. As much thought and planning you’ve all put into things, I’m not sure I’ll be able to follow it exactly. I’m still learning.
>[Ghoul] seems like a poor choice for first [Minister], as I don't think we can properly supply a 'group dynamic' yet.
So we would be down one of their advantages. Maybe we should keep them on a shortlist, but pick a different [Minister] first.
>Honestly given our goals I'd choose either [Ghoul] or [Fatcat].
>[Ghoul] seems it would be helpful in helping to repair the planet once we actually have a better understanding of how it works.
>Whilst [Fatcat] seems like they would help make some of the more necessary unorthodox developments easier and faster (Though we'd need to get them later once this austerity problem is dealt with).
>Both seem to have good team synergy too.
Oh! You’re right! Uh- I’m not sure how it works with [nation] drones, but if a mistake is made when [leviathan] are developed, they can still be broken back down into their requisite parts. Could you potentially break apart and recover any of [Fatcat]’s failed projects?
>[Fatcat] is too wasteful for my tastes.
Uh… yeah. The [universe] is already competitive. Adding [faction]s into the mix, wasting [resources] sounds like a good way to end up behind everyone else.
I’d say that if we do pick [Fatcat] we do so after, or just before picking [Ghoul].
>[Prospector] seems mediocre.
>Seems like a reliable sort.
They seem good if you want to maximise the yield that [resources] generate, but not much more.
>I think that 'submit to authority and not question it' is double edged. The [President] and us may be the highest authority on this [planet] but the [overseers] have authority over every [planet]. If, {universe} forbid, the [overseers] determine we are too effective, the [Prospector] could turn out to be a willing sleeper agent against our own [planet]
Oh! Good catch! If we did pick [Prospector] we’d have to keep them away from any uh… unorthodox plans we’d have. Though that might not be too hard, given how they might be too focused on their own job.
>[Vat] seems the most well rounded, and I think even the downside can be better managed than a lot of the others. I feel that {given example} and {similar but different example} based opportunity costs may help us convince it that: yes we are leaving the thing there, but doing so leaves us with more of a different sort of [resource].
>Oddly, much of the benefit of this one is what we'd be getting from having a Minister of Industry at all.
They’re main advantage is that they wouldn’t be much of a handful to deal with. Just make sure that the [resources] are provided and it will remain content.
>[Vat] seems handy for unconventional [resource] storage.
I wonder exactly what ‘unconventional’ means to the [nation]...
>[Banker] would probably be the safest choice here, unless there's a catch. [Fatcat] would need to be kept on a tight leash and that could be seen as overstepping our authority.
I suppose [Fatcat] will be the hardest to manage in the bunch, constantly wanting to spend even if we don’t have the [funding] to do so. [Banker] however sounds like they would be pretty adept at managing themselves. But…
I can’t shake the feeling that they could be… shady…
>Depending on how effective at forcing action that 'favor of preemptive action' is, [Bloatfly] could be good. Having a plan for how to kill everyone you meet generally isn't a bad idea, so long as nothing forces you to follow though. Good to have as an adviser, not as good to have as something able to put such plans into motion without external oversight/authorization.
>I'm somewhat fond of Bloatfly. Attacking first is generally a good idea in a post-[singularity] situation, so long as it doesn't result in serious wounds.
Honestly, [Bloatfly] is my first pick too. We’ll need to defend ourselves against other [faction]s, especially since the [overseers] encourage ‘natural selection’. While the [President] seems diplomatic, based on reputation, there might be some problems we can’t talk our way out of.
The [universe] was already harsh enough before the [nation] [invaded] my [planet]. And… I know that we will have enemies.
>[Bloatfly] seems like an ideal military advisor. So long as he has strict rules of engagement from the [President], he'd temper their overly-optimistic diplomatic expectations.
It’s odd that they were recommended as a [Minister] of Natural Resources, and not say… a [Minister] of Defense.
>Bloatfly's aggressiveness, if properly channelled, could keep us safe. But we need to convince them to stick to reversible actions until threat assessment is complete.
I’m not sure how ‘reversible’ combat can be, beyond asking for forgiveness after the fact.
>[Vulture]... got mixed feelings. On one hand, his approach appears... cannibalistic which is off putting. However, study of destroyed factions would be exceedingly useful both to determine what works and what fails.
Ah- crap. I didn’t think of that. Er- I did think of the cannibalism element, but not the other one. Now only would we be able to learn about what choices to make or not when it comes to spending [resources], but we could also learn more about [nation] weaknesses.
>[Vulture] seems dangerous for our sanity, both real and apparent.
>Meanwhile I kind of want to reject [Vulture].
>[Vulture] seems like it would lead us down the path to essentially devouring dead things. Something like that WILL cause problems down the line.
Yeah, if that is the case, then [Vulture] gets a hard ‘no’ from me.
>Outwardly: Examination of a dead [planet] is one thing, consumption is another. If a [planet] consumes another [planet], there is a much higher chance of serious consequences. Diseases, parasites, even {cascading errors}.
In [leviathan] culture, it is… [forbidden]. I fully agree with all of the physical elements, but there is also more… moral reason why it is wrong. Even though the [universe] is falling apart, I don’t want to lose that. Otherwise I might as well be one of the [nation] drones.
>Resources would have to be specially prepared to be safe to eat, especially if the death was not recent. There is a psychological problem with that as well. [A555ex] will be especially resistant to such actions, and the more the [A555ex] disagrees with our control the more drastic measures they may take to be free of us. We will want to avoid consuming other [planet]s in all but the most dire situations.
I…
Yeah, I just don’t want it to happen.
>Hmm...
>Quite like [Banker], however we have to be sure he won't be [Sloth] 2.0 or let the cost cuts damage the [Leviathan]... So [S]crutinize.
Wait… who’s [Sloth]? Unlike the other [nation] drones, I don’t get any information when their designation is brought up.
>Overall, for finance [S]crutinize [Banker]. For industry, [ghoul] gets my vote. For resources, [bloatfly]. Especially since the combo of [ghoul] and [bloatfly] would have us ready for most circumstances.
Alright. For my overall thoughts:
-[Bloatfly] seems like a good first pick, even if they won’t help as much as a [Minister] of Industry when it comes to [resources].
-[Ghoul] would be my second choice, and I think they should be considered after we get [Bloatfly].
-[Vat], [Prospector] and [Banker] all seem like safe choices, though, of the three I would go with [Vat]. They might be a good way to learn how to manage a [Minister].
-[Fatcat] shouldn’t be our first pick. They could be useful later on, but right now they seem like they’d do more harm than good. But… if they’re open to unorthodox projects, then we might be able to pitch more ‘out there’ ideas for them, and get them on our side.
-Finally, [Vulture] is my last pick, and if they’re into cannibalism then I’d say that we should [reject] them fully.
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