george_lightning!!qxBQR3LJH3 2010/11/28(Sun)14:23 No. 5578 ID: a29330
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>>315577
Really? I though it was wood tied with rope. Like if it was inspired by bamboo scaffolding or some other wood and rope structure(like bridges or platforms).Kinda disappointing if it turns out it isn't.

Is there any description of where Dot lives? There is a bit on the general setting but I can't find much on actual Neveran cities. Assuming she's even in a Neveran city here.

Anonymous 2010/11/29(Mon)04:42 No. 5579 ID: 29ecc1
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>>315578
>wood tied with rope.
It most likely is, and she's prob also using her left hand/claw to hold onto the pole.

There really isn't much information about anything. The Vilous based characters from tgchan quests are pretty much more fleshed out that Micks stuff. A possible new translation might possible change that though.
THere were new Nevrean and Sergal ref sheets though. The Sergal one is still WiP apparently and went back to old style, for mysterious reasons.

>>315579
I lol'd because "flight".

Anonymous 2010/11/30(Tue)14:06 No. 5581 ID: f5c7b6
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This one's mildly amusing.

>>315581
If you get the joke, it is.

I sort of don't. Something about fake breasts.

>>315659
>>Nevrean DelusionsofGrandeur.jpg
It's not a very complex joke. The Nevrean thinks she is hot and curvy but she is not. The other guy is unimpressed.

>>315663
or at least not hot enough to make him pause the fukken game.

I modified the following for a low tech setting:


Nevreans. Little tiny raptor birds

they are a race of bird people similar to Kenkus.

What is unique about them is that the females are slightly larger, have predominately black feathers, teeth and small horns above their eyes, while the males are smaller, are brightly yellow coloured, with large striking plumes on their tails to attract mates, they do not have teeth nor horns.

They scavenge off of Lost Technology and magic, They also research the tech and magic they find, often at their own peril.

>>316210
The males have teeth, just not big ones.

The females are all muted earth/rock colors, not necessarily black. Brown, Grey, Black, etc. They still have yellow or red bills though, look to real birds for inspiration on their coloring. I really want to see a Nevrean that looks like a Crowned Crane, myself, though it would likely have to be a male.

Nevreans aren't as much flightless birds as they are a sort of dinosaur. very similar to utah/ova/velociraptors in that thy look like birds but aren't. that "beak is really just skull with skin and muscle over it. easy to tell because beaks can't have that same level of expression seen in OP: either the mouth is open or it's closed even on birds that have teeth you can only see said teeth when they open their beaks, impossible for them to put their teeth together without closing their beak entirely, the various images that Mick has drawn of Dot/Yung-Yung show that she can open her mouth without showing her teeth, and gnash her teeth without closing her mouth, this indicates that nevreans posses lips and therefore cannot have an actual beak.

that said, it's a very interesting and refreshing take on "saurian" races.

>>316673
>applying biology to furry fap-fodder
>especially when it's Mick, and she can't draw the same species twice in a row without contradicting herself and redefining the canon

>because it's impossible to take something we find interest in and re-purpose it beyond its origins, no matter how base or objectionable you might find them.

>implying I find them objectionable
You're just not going to get anywhere reasoning about their biology when their biology changes with Mick's whims.

>>316678
>then what's to stop us from just taking the best from what we like of them and binning whatever else Mick does?

>>316679

wait wait, are you saying that we should just steal 'nevrean' as a concept and totally make it our own? But then we'd have 'quest nevrean' versus 'mick's nevrean'

>>316699
As opposed to having to adjust 'Mick's Nevrean' every ten minutes?

>>316699
That's not really a problem, since there really isn't that much info on them in English, and most people here would just make use the quest version. It's more of a favor. Sort of like what happened to Sergals. We use what Mick set up as a guideline.

The bottom line is that it's a fantasy race. They aren't real creatures so we can do what ever the hell we want with them.

basically we just freeze-frame and stop worrying about canon. i mean, hatch quest started with canon nevs but they have changed so that it isn't canon anymore.

Canon Nevs are so dreamy.

>>316702
well, if we are gonna make our own nevreans, we gotta make a cannon for ourselves... i i would like to use something that has canon

>>316715
We don't need a cannon to work from. They're a fantasy race, some one comes up with them, some one else reuses them and switches things around to suit teir needs. This goes on and on and on. Just look at Elves.

>>316716
>We don't need a cannon to work from.
[insert pun here]

Anyway, your argument is flawed. Elves and similar have been around for so long that nobody has any clue what the original is, if such a thing even exists. Nevreans have a single author and a relatively well-defined "official" canon. (tgchan's nevreans have been separate ever since Hatch Quest [which, coincidentally, is the oldest quest on the site], just like how /tg/ has its own distinct variation of sergals. But even then, our nevrean canon is pretty well-defined compared to any of the "traditional" fantasy races.)

>>316717
I don't see how that invalidates my point at all. I could have said Halflings or Warforged or Orcs and my point would have been the same.

>>316718

all i want to know is this, is their a defined general template that makes this thing a 'nevrean' or are we just gonna call all anthro-bird people nevrean?

>>316721
Mick's canon is the easiest, just take the stuff in his FA with a grain of salt as he does occasionally just throw in random shit for his own amusement.

(this was supposed to be in the first post, oops)

>>316718
People generally don't stray too far from the established canon when such a thing exists for a race. Halflings rarely ever vary from LOTR's hobbits, and orcs rarely vary from D&D's canon (which is also very similar to the original LOTR canon). I'm not familiar with any race known as "warforged" but I'm willing to bet it's the same deal. Now try finding where anybody on tgchan or /tg/ has made any major alterations to the nevrean canon, you probably won't find anything worth mentioning.

...I don't even know where this post is going anymore

>>316723
>Halflings rarely ever vary from LOTR's hobbits
If it's called "Halfling" it tends to be more like D&D halflings, which are significantly unlike LotR hobbits. Even there, there's a lot of difference. Consider the halflings of Athas, the halflings of Faerun, and the halflings of Eberron. Jungle cannibals, tiny gypsies, and dinosaur cavalry are not very similar. D&D's Gnomes also have deviated from hobbits to the extent that they are now more like the mythological elves of Britain than Tolkein's hobbits. So shit changes a lot.

Even Orcs change a lot. In some cases, they're a race of brutish people who live like mongols, in some they're race of mono-gender fungi who get bigger by killing shit.

>I'm not familiar with any race known as "warforged"
what
How did you even get on a traditional games board on a website that sprung off from another one?
Have you heard of Eberron? It's kind of a thing. And Warforged aren't Eberron exclusive anymore either. They're changed little due to newness, sure, but it doesn't mean that they're incapable of change. They could easily be seen as an adaptation of golems, for example.



>>316721
I'll suggest
"If the author calls it a Nevrean, it's a Nevrean."

>>316724
Eh, I give up. I'm arguing with a guy who can pull dozens examples that I have never heard of out of his ass, therefore I can't possibly refute any of your arguments.

>>316725
>Every race is the same
>Counterexamples
>Those are shitty and clearly only my experience counts, therefore I win

That said, what are the major features of nevreans? I know there's some Mick-inspired weird shit because they used to be a medieval thing and now it's some kind of cyberpunk dystopia thing going on, but what are their main points?

>>316725
Seriously? I went for the most mainstream examples I could think of. Those are all settings that have 4e books. Except the latter orcs, which are Warhammer.

What examples would you use to illustrate your own argument?

Right now it looks like your argument is "Nevreans must cleave to Mick's canon because I think that races can't vary in implementation because I know nothing of fantasy".

>>316726
Main points seem to be a society with high technology. Women are usually warrior. They revere the sky but can't naturally fly, but if they can they shouldn't.

Mick's a good writer with abstract races it's just that they can get to abstract and a little dumb at times. You have to root out the bad stuff and anything else that you don't want. Fantasy races are more of concepts than guidelines. They can be widely interpreted, even in the same setting. To bring up an example I'll get railed on for, Warcraft's early Orcs. They started as just big evil green men that are part demon, and their art direction reflected this. You had Orcs with massive claws and horns and fangs ect.

>>316727
I have nothing to do with /tg/ and was only posting here because I figured my lack of actual /tg/ related knowledge wouldn't become relevant to this thread. I have no actual experience with the relevant source material and am going mainly on second-hand knowledge while you are probably a long-standing /tg/ veteran who knows the source material inside and out. I can't really argue with you because I have no idea what 3/4 of your examples are.

And you're still wrong because Cruxador

>>316726
He's basically conceding on grounds of not knowing what he's talking about. No need to go greentexting at him over that.

>>316733
>who knows the source material inside and out
Eh, not really. Just the bare bones of the basics.

>I have no idea what 3/4 of your examples are.
You should be able to find the setting books on /rs/ if you're inclined to.

>I figured my lack of actual /tg/ related knowledge wouldn't become relevant to this thread.
It wouldn't have, if you hadn't gone making assertions based on knowledge you didn't have.

Oh, and since we're horribly off-topic anyway,
>>316722
Trancy Mick is female.

>>316734

lol

>>316724
>"If the author calls it a Nevrean, it's a Nevrean."

that is the most dangerous thing anyone could post on this board

2011/05/07(Sat)14:01 No. 6752 ID: 43d730
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>>316749
>"If the author calls it a Nevrean, it's a Nevrean."
Dohohohohoho

>>316749
>that is the most dangerous thing anyone could post on this board
I don't remember what I have on this particular computer, but it's not impossible that I could post a trojan, instructions for making small-scale nuclear weapons from a fuckton of smoke detectors, and a fairly wide variety of other weapons, both digital and physical. I think that the idea that you can call shit what you want to call it is not very dangerous compared to that. Or, in fact, at all.

>>316753
Smoke detectors don't have the proper materials in them. Or are you implying Americium-241 can be used to make a nuclear weapon?

Anyway you aren't ALLOWED to post that here. That is part of 'can'.

>If it's called "Halfling" it tends to be more like D&D halflings, which are significantly unlike LotR hobbits.
Oh for fuck's sake THEY WERE CALLED HALFLINGS IN LOTR YOU DUMBFUCK

>>316761
>Smoke detectors don't have the proper materials in them.
I haven't actually tested these instructions. At the very least, this information would come with the danger of somebody wasting a bunch of money on smoke detectors, which is still a greater danger than the danger inspired by suggesting that a name applies to whatever creature you call by that name.

>Oh for fuck's sake THEY WERE CALLED HALFLINGS IN LOTR YOU DUMBFUCK
In-universe, yes. In real life, nobody ever calls them that.

>>316753
>Americium bomb
laughingtargeteers.jpg
>instructions for making small-scale nuclear weapon
http://www.amazon.com/Atom-Bombs-Secret-Inside-Little/dp/B0006S2AJ0
Sufficiently accurate that the DoD uses it. The guy figured out how the 'hollow projectile' trick the gun-type Little Boy device used.
Regardless, building a nuke is easy-modo. Refining the materials is the tricky bit. A Calutron is easy to build but takes an age to enrich (and you need multiple stages really).

Anonymous 2011/05/08(Sun)07:13 No. 6776 ID: 3ed896
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I'm pretty sure Nevrean canon is more or less "random shit in broken English the crazy friend of Mick told Beakie" and even he can't be bothered to adhere to it.

>>316776
hatch quest WAS canon. but then they changed... again.

Nevreans are, from what I've been able to piece together, bird-like dinosaur creatures. Something not to different from an anthropomorphic archeopteryx. They are warm-blooded, and cannot fly.(Even the males, with their larger wings) Like RL birds, the males of the species are brightly coloured, and the females are duller.
>>5579
Notice the color guide next to the two examples in the picture this person was kind enough to post.
The mouth of the species does have a small, partial beak at the end, with the sharp teeth of the raptorial dinosaurs mentioned (velociraptor, utah raptor, etc.) embedded in gums behind the beak.
The origin of the nevreans is Mick's Vilous novel, very little of which has been translated into English. In this novel, the nevreans apparently lived on a mountain. Mick has tried to translate at least two chapters, bless her perverted heart, but her attempts have only given fans more ammunition to fight with. It has been said that nevreans, like the sergals, humans, and other races on planet Vilous were uplifted by aliens. As such, reasonable and sensible laws of evolutionary biology do not apply.
Confused yet?
Bearing this in mind, as well as the changes to canon Mick has made, different interpretations of the Nevrean race can be easily supported.
Further information is easily available at Mick's FA site, which someone else has also posted. As Mick has referred people to Kiki-Uma on the subject of sergal biology, I would also suggest looking at her FA site as well.

Anonymous 2014/09/07(Sun)08:14 No. 10585 ID: c8aa07
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http://goldring.wikia.com/wiki/%E3%83%8D%E3%82%A6%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2

This is a Japanese site of Vilous wiki and this is a Japanese page of Nevrean.
I translate this, they are dinosaurs like a bird limitlessly.
And a woman of Nevrean is masculine, and a man is feminine.

Anonymous 2014/09/07(Sun)08:27 No. 10586 ID: c8aa07
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and Trancy Mick's friend KP-YOHSI says.
"The sexual role of Nevrean is opposite to that of human.
It means that male Nevreans are girly, colorful, short, and not that strong.
In contrast, females are tough, not colorful, tall, and strong.
Also, their ways of thinking are different."
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8893777/

so female Nevrean rape male Nevrean!

ther unhealthy obsession with sharp objects. Any

or at least not hot enough to make him pause the fukken game.

Anonymous 2015/09/26(Sat)09:09 No. 10939 ID: a09e62
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I think it's what makes the species so cool, with how the females are masculine and how the males are feminine. On first refsheet on this thread it does mention male and female, but it's just not very noticeable. I'm glad they updated it though to make it more noticeable on new arts.

Anonymous 2015/09/28(Mon)18:45 No. 10940 ID: a09e62
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>>5579
This is latest version ref of it.