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88297 No. 88297 ID: defceb

Discussion thread for Red Giant. Comments/thoughts/questions/critiques welcome, especially critiques.
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No. 91293 ID: bd8b82

we are the prettiest moth princess
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No. 91294 ID: 9ddf68

>>91290
when I see this picture I can't help but feel like Alex is judging me for some reason
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No. 91401 ID: 88960e

I'm gonna laugh so hard if we freak out over a sniper only for it to turn out it really was a harmless red bug.
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No. 91411 ID: 78a595

A quanta is simply the smallest possible divisible piece of something. A fundamental unit. Quantum anything is simply working with things on that scale, or with the properties of things on that scale.

Quantum computing, in particular (and in very general terms), is about exploiting superposition to get more out of your qbits than you would a classical bit.

Nothing to do with tapping into other realities. Now, the many world interpretation of quantum mechanics does suggest alternate realities exist, but it doesn't really give us any way to exploit them, or really, for established realities to interact with each. The idea is just that every outcome of a collapsing wave-function happens, causing reality to branch.

So quantum mechanics can relate to alternate universe, but it really shouldn't be the first thing you jump to when you hear the word.
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No. 91421 ID: ecdd59

>>91411
Not who you were talking to but pseudo quantum sounds like getting the effects of quantum mechanics via some other (presumably easier to use, or smaller, or more efficient or incorporating something else) method (simulations? alternate universes? mucking about with probability? string theory? higher dimensions? hyperbolic/elliptic geometry? that which Man Was Not Meant To Know? theres no way to tell!)
Compressed transistors sound like something to do with planck length and heat slip sounds like something to do energy, but both could be any of the above, or more.

even though its pointless to figure out what any of it is because its supposed to be incomprehensible technology from the start
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No. 92515 ID: bd8b82

so plague users are basically like conduits from Infamous. they get a random super power that can do some crazy shit that is mostly limited only by the imagination of the user.
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No. 92516 ID: defceb

>>92515
Just to clarify, only a small portion of people survive exposure to the plague, and an even smaller portion of that are changed in a way that can be seen as beneficial. So for one out of many, yeah kind of?
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No. 92517 ID: bd8b82

>>92516
yeah that sounds right, is like a ray-sphere, the ray-sphere sends out a wave that kills almost everyone, the survivors now have super powers.
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No. 93060 ID: b6178d

>>88297

I love this quest, I adore its aesthetic and I find its take on sci-fi themes mixed into ancient world setting quite pleasing.

Well done, Apollo!
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No. 93061 ID: defceb

>>93060
Thank you!
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No. 93583 ID: defceb
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93583

Photina doodle
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No. 93599 ID: ea0ad9

You know what I've begun to imagine? Alex cosplaying as a Luminoth, with Photina in a Samus outfit and Sydney somehow fitted to be a Chozo head. I mean, Alex is already a moth person and Photina's a human, while Sydney's a spirit-esque floaty ball that the corrupted Chozo Spirits became to move around the rooms.
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No. 93604 ID: b6178d

>>93583

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."

We really should converse with Photina more. Hopefully the Festival will be a fun and interesting diversion for her as well as us.
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No. 93618 ID: e114bc

Meeting that other User has made me realize we should probably start making some basic armor for Photina. If we can get the raw materials I would love making a suit of power armor for her.

I'm not sure what to protect Alex with. He needs to be able to fly. Maybe we can suit him up in something that has some thrusters or something to compensate for the added weight?
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No. 93624 ID: ab7529

>>/quest/658834
>My tactical recommendation is robots with fewer arms and no heads.
I just want you to know, it's going to be your fault when we run into the flying headless robot laser snakes.
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No. 93995 ID: 98f925

>The Giant's Grave, by H.Anselm
http://tgchan.org/wiki/Rollback#Haley_Anselm
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No. 94010 ID: 30c34d

we look so cute the art is fantastic
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No. 94011 ID: e114bc

>>93995
I'm starting to think we should start taking these little references seriously.
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No. 94224 ID: defceb
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94224

Castillo, Marie

[The full content of this article of property of the Hirst Psychology Journal Corporation. For the full article, please purchase at error:null link]

Marie Castillo is the first recorded recipient of an uplift procedure, by Haley Anselm’s Neural Code process. Of the 86 first-generation neural code recipients, Marie is one of the 12 still alive at the time of this article’s publishing. Marie’s most famous not for her cybernetic status but for her advances in stellar exploration and contact with alien life, which later became the basis for intergalactic relations. Though her position was considered important, much of her early history has since been lost. Whether due to disrepair or poor archiving, most information regarding Marie Castillo and others from her system is considered [debatable] at best.

Despite her consistent activity in the political realm, Marie’s later life was marked by increasing bouts of paranoia, erratic activity, and seclusion. They ultimately resigned and disappeared from the public eye in 247 UC. Though later information is no more than hearsay, occasional tidbits from their close friends imply that she remains active to this day, though under close psychological care.

[Get the full story today! error:null link]

[Pictured: Marie Castillo at her last major public appearance. Image is property of Ma’axi News Corp © 246 UC.]

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Telsem Roderick, Mars Incident, A Brief History of Intergalactic Relations, Neural Code, Digital Cannibalism, Psychology amongst the Cybernetically Immortal, Memory Leak, Wormhole Construction
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No. 94225 ID: 8d9368

>>94224
Uh. 'Digital Cannibalism' is kind of a worrying tag.
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No. 94232 ID: b6178d

>>663853

Compliments on the scenic image, Apollo. That was rather well setpiece'd.

>>94225

You don't say. I wonder how that even works. Copy bits of code from a program/AI and insert it into your own? Uploading entire programs/AIs and slave them to your own programming?
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No. 94256 ID: defceb
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94256

An android wallpaper version of this panel was requested so I touched it up a little and widened it. This should work, I think.
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No. 94258 ID: defceb

>>94232
Thank you!
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No. 94563 ID: e114bc

Hey Sydney, can you tell us about The Giant's Grave?
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No. 94625 ID: defceb

>>94563
Writing this one out is taking longer than I thought it would but I am working on it, yes
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No. 94900 ID: 0fc976

The time to vote for the tanky option was >>/questarch/615822. Take a chance on vampirism!
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No. 94901 ID: e114bc

>>94900
It's not entirely the tanky option. Our guns need to be strong in order to handle their own internal forces.

That raw dust railgun we made might have blown up if we tried to shoot it at full power.
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No. 94903 ID: 0fc976

>>94901
If "full power" blows up the gun, you need to redefine what full power is. Plus, that means you can turn the gun up to eleven!
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No. 95703 ID: defceb
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95703

>>94563
The Giant’s Grave
a novel by Haley Anselm

Science Fiction

copyright 4869 AD

Brief]

The Giant’s Grave is a novel written by Anselm during the renaissance of Neo-Post-Re-De-Modernism in the 49th century. The book, measuring some 120,000 pages long, is simultaneously praised and bemoaned for it’s great length, with people citing it’s roundabout, looping plots as either a pivotal factor to their enjoyment or central point of frustration. The book carries heavy themes of cyclic existence, with characters, locations, and overarching plots circling back to their own beginning..

The exact meaning of the title is a topic of constant debate, with two main theories having risen to the top. The first posits that the Giant’s Grave referenced in the title is to a pre-Big Bang singularity, which would encompass all matter that has ever existed in the universe preceding it. Thus, it would be like a grave to everything that existed from one Big Bang to it’s Big Crunch. The other camps believe the Giant’s Grave is a reference to the Machine Lord’s main body in the third arc, which at that point has become a sprawling superstructure that doesn’t wholly exist in our known dimensions. In this instance, the ‘grave’ would be the ‘Somewhere Else’, a vaguely reality outside of our universe.

For the purposes of the synopsis, I will focus mainly on the advancing plot points instead of dwelling on every minor factor.

Plot Synopsis

1st Age - Path of Fire

A story opens with our protagonist, an advanced sci-fi roomba, gaining sentience due to a freak coding accident. While it’s elated to become self-aware, menial labor such as cleaning is only legally allowed to be done by automated machines, and it is fired on the spot. Without any other skills or knowledge, the protagonist becomes a wandering vagrant, hopping along stellar shipping lines and wandering city streets across the galaxy.

The following chapters detail it’s adventures in meeting many colorful characters and learning about the futuristic society they live in. Notable features include a trans-galactic religion centered around the belief of a being that exists outside known space and is capable of reversing entropy through unknown means. Many different claims to the origin of this religion are made throughout the story, which are often conflicting or wholly contradictory.
A lot happens and at the same time not a whole lot happens at all.

Ultimately, in the heart of civilization they create an AI that they believe would be capable of equalling the mythic figure of their religion. The AI becomes friends with the protagonist during their adventures, acting often through proxies or absorbed personas to fulfill its wants for travel. It confides in the protagonist that it doesn’t know how to fulfill it’s core purpose, and that it intends to make that knowledge public the next day. It attempts to persuade the protagonist to leave for their own safety, but the protagonist refuses.

Over the course of the story, the protagonist has seen that the threads binding civilization together across the galaxy have been straining over concerns of resources and energy supplies. As the outer rims of civilization reached the limits of their natural resources incidents of unrest to outright rebellion had become more and more common. When the AI announces that it sees no way to reverse entropy, the threads break and civilization turns quickly into open rebellion. The first act closes with the protagonist escaping from the planet in time to see RKVs destroy it, and send his ship tumbling into the unknown.

2nd Age - Trail of CInders

The second act begins an unstated amount of years later, though the distance is implied to be in billions of years. The protagonist is awoken after being repaired by a drone belonging to the AI, now wearing the title of Machine Lord. The protagonist learns that in the time they’ve been gone a completely new civilization has risen up, with nothing but ruins and rumors remaining of their old society. The Machine Lord confides that since the last age they’ve dedicated their resources entirely into self-expansion, turning themselves into a sprawling galactic superstructure. Though they have become omnipresent in the story, the Machine Lord refuses to interact with any being besides the protagonist, believing it to be a distraction from their main goal. At the Machine Lord’s behest, the protagonist embarks on another adventure to encounter many color characters.

A lot happens and at the same time not a whole lot happens at all.

The second age comes to a close at the heart of the new civilization. The protagonist, now beaten and bruised from their long adventure, decides to take a rest and seek repairs later. As they look out the window, they see a news announcement celebrating the creation of a new AI made in the Machine Lord’s image. On that note, they go to sleep.

3rd Age - The Burnt Road

The protagonist awakens, again repaired by one of the Machine Lord’s drones. The Machine Lord confides that this time it is not a drone piloted by weak-AI, but their actual consciousness which had become disconnected from their main body during the events between now and the second age. They describe their main body as having become a vast superstructure that had been shunted into ‘somewhere else’, and they wish for protagonist to help them return so that they can continue attempting to thwart entropy.

The protagonist and Machine Lord thus go on an adventure together, wandering through the ruins of civilization in which usable energy has long since begun to burn out. Though they are constantly surrounded by miracles of science, it is all rendered as useless husks without any power to sustain it. Where the previous ages contained long descriptions of active society, this age largely consists of empty, lonely passages and details of the corpses left behind. On the rare occasion when they do meet living people, relations tend to quickly fall apart as they hope to harvest the protagonist and Machine Lord for their energy.

A lot happens and at the same time not a whole lot happens at all.

The story ends with the protagonist and Machine Lord being hooked up to the same battery, which is heavily implied to be the last usable source of power in the universe. The two spend some time musing over the fact that they haven’t yet reached the ‘somewhere else’. The Machine Lord then reasons that since they’re both using the same battery, if one of them alone was using it then they would be able to travel twice as far and be more likely to reach their goal. The Machine Lord then reasons that since it is capable of interfacing with it’s main body, and the protagonist is not, that they are the more important of the two. The story ends with the Machine Lord apologizing as it dismantles the protagonist, it’s only friend through all three ages.

Pictured: Cover from the first edition of The Giant’s Grave, courtesy of the Gorbichek History Museum. Translated by Psychopomp Class D, Unit 032 “Sydney”


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No. 95724 ID: 64ee5b

>>95703
Interesting. I... Don't really know what to say.

Several of these "it's" should be "its", unless it's there for stylistic reasons as Sydney does the translating.
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No. 95725 ID: defceb

>>95724
Naw I'm just trash-tier writer
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No. 95732 ID: 0ed6e9

>>95703
huh, actually sounds like a good read if you have about a week of nothing but free time. Although I'd probably find an abridged version that cuts out the bull crap if the looping stories start to get to me.
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No. 95737 ID: 025c3c

>actually sounds like a good read if you have about a week of nothing but free time
Welcome to how I pick the things I read on my phone at work.
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No. 95766 ID: ad936f

I kind love the "tgchan with a 3d printer" feel this quest has.

Is starting the industrial revolution something we're actually doing or not?
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No. 95767 ID: 3663d3

>>95766
we don't have enough time. and the bots seem to destroy tech to prevent human advancement so no one could invent a thing that would let them break into the tower.
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No. 95813 ID: 9892c9

>>95766
maybe after or if the robots are gone.
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No. 95815 ID: 9892c9

>>95703
>120000 pages.
the average page count of a book is about 240 pages.
Usually i'd say i could read that over a weekend if it were light, but this sounds like some pretty heavy reading, so i'll say it would take me a week or longer.
120,000 / 240 = 500
500 weeks is just under 10 years, not including any extra time taken per book.
It would take me 10 years, a tenth of my lifespan, to finish it if i read at a comfortable pace.

No wonder robots love it.

For comparison, the longest thing ever written is a SSBB fanfic called The Subspace Emissary's Worlds Conquest, currently at 3,548,615 words (according to a 2 year old buzzfeed article).
At 275 words per page, thats nearly 13,000 pages, or ~54 books. Just over a year to read.
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No. 96370 ID: defceb
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96370

So. Narration in Red Giant.

So far I've been trying to run it with primarily speech-only writing, with the exception of character thoughts during Errant Signal segments. Would people prefer if I kept writing it that way, or started adding in narration like I do for all of my other quests?

P.S. I feel like I'm changing the art direction of this quest every third update whooooooooops.
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No. 96372 ID: 0fc976

If you can keep doing that, then keep doing that. It's different and I like it.
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No. 96375 ID: ea0ad9

Well, if there's anything important to notice that can't be conveyed through the picture, it would be useful to have Alex notice it in thought, but otherwise I'm fine with dialogue-and-picture based story.
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No. 96425 ID: b6178d

>>96370

It's going pretty strong as-is, to be honest. If you get utterly stuck trying, obviously do whatever, but so far it's been neat the way it is. Switching art-styles and all.
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No. 97650 ID: 02422f

Maaaan, I wish I'd been awake for more of those scenarios.

>>/questarch/699262
Huh. One of the obelisks bit it?

Either the 'enemy' is even less unified than we thought (turning on each other, removing rivals?) or a user managed to get to one of them.
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No. 97660 ID: b6178d

>>97650

Yup. Oh-Six, which I seem to recall was one of the most vocally opposed to Red, calling her a 'pet project' of one of the other AIs.

The killer seems to be Red, actually. Guess someone's housecleaning.
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No. 97683 ID: 38685c

does he have a penis
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No. 97733 ID: defceb

>>97683
Who?
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No. 97734 ID: 02422f

>>97733
Everyone.
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No. 97737 ID: 15720c

>>97733
Sydney, Photina, Red, Oh Six.
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No. 97738 ID: 99a64d

>>97733
Alex probably, I mean he is a bug.
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No. 97741 ID: defceb

>>97734
Uh

>>97737
Maybe, No, Detachable, Oh yes

>>97738
-w i n k-
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No. 97745 ID: 15720c

>>97741
>Maybe, No, Detachable, Oh yes
Sydney x Oh Six is now the otp regardless of which way that maybe status actually ends up going now. Well, they will be if Oh Six is still alive.

Joking aside, we have to try and rescue him if he did survive. Problem will be how will Alex be able to know?
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