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39905 No. 39905 ID: 3bad4c

Bad End Quest Discussion goes here.

Submit your questions and such.
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No. 39906 ID: c04c0d

Have to say is not ending badly enough fast enough.
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No. 39908 ID: 3bad4c

Ouch.
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No. 39913 ID: 00d3d5

>>349706
We are building up to a massive clusterfuck of BAD END.
At least, that's the idea.
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No. 39916 ID: b5c9ce
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39916

A comedy begins badly, has a moment of hope, gets a far worse, then ends perfectly.

A tragedy begins well, has a moment of pain, gets a little better, then ends catastrophically.

So far so good.
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No. 39933 ID: c04c0d

Hmm that probably came out wrong. My comment about not ending badly enough fast enough was not a insult. Just that with the challenge in the first post to get there as quick as possible I figured we could have gone through a pile of character sheets by now.
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No. 39935 ID: 5aac32

Yeah, but it's proving pretty interesting to see him dig himself in deeper and deeper.
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No. 39947 ID: 3bad4c

I think the best thing about this quest is that there is real D&D combat happening, meaning there is always the chance of abrupt and disappointing death by dice.

Anyway, big update in progress. Then, big decision point. Then I don't know what. (Mainly being held up by attempting art that is too advanced for me.)
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No. 39954 ID: 5aac32

As long as you provide interesting and entertaining descriptions for said abrupt deaths.

Hell, part of the fun of roguelikes for many is the wide variety of random deaths you can suffer. I'm not personally a big roguelike player, but I can see the appeal there.
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No. 39955 ID: 7aedd2

I'll be honest. At first it was kind of interesting, if a bit too broad, but then suddenly A DRAGON APPEARS AND YOU HAVE SEX WITH IT AND YOU ARE NOW PREGNANT WITH DRAGON BABY and I went 'hell no'
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No. 39964 ID: 28e94e

I'll be honest. At first it was kind of interesting, if a bit too broad, but then suddenly A DRAGON APPEARS AND YOU HAVE SEX WITH IT AND YOU ARE NOW PREGNANT WITH DRAGON BABY and I went 'hell yes'
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No. 39965 ID: 3bad4c

>>349755
Yeah, I won't be doing THAT again.
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No. 39966 ID: 950512

>>349755
Meh. Sex with dragons only became possible because seducing it was suggested. YE REAP THAT WHICH YE SOW, LAD.
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No. 39969 ID: 3bad4c

How was someone NOT going to suggest that? This .. IS .. TGCHAN.
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No. 39972 ID: 7aedd2

Suggestions don't mean it has to be done or even considered
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No. 39976 ID: 3bad4c

>>349772

You say that like this is 'mentally stable quest', which it is not. At least, not since the character's upbringing was "partially horrible".
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No. 39980 ID: 0d095c

>>349776
Well, in the vein of Hatch Quest, and Tezakia Quest, this quest shall have an appropriate nickname too. I'm recommending Utter Depravity Quest.
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No. 39981 ID: 3bad4c

>>349780
That would imply character #2 (whenever that happens) will be automatically as depraved. I offer no guarantees of this.
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No. 39982 ID: cfd96c

>>349781
... pleeeaaase.
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No. 39983 ID: 5ae5c4

We really should become addicted to dragon dickings. Personal sex slave for the rest of our lives, fastest bad ending.
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No. 39990 ID: f5fe2f

>>349765
CHOO CHOO
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No. 39992 ID: 3bad4c

>>349790
Ecsplain? [derp]
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No. 39993 ID: f5fe2f

>>349792
Railroading, bro.
Keeping us from fucking a dragon and having its baby and all that again.
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No. 39995 ID: 3bad4c

>>349793
..you want to do it AGAIN?!
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No. 39996 ID: c04c0d

Slippery slope and all that.
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No. 39998 ID: 3bad4c

Get enough upgrade points and you can just out and out play a dragon.
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No. 40007 ID: f5fe2f

>>349795
Hey, why break a winning pattern?

>>349798
How would we get a bad end as a dragon?
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No. 40010 ID: 35e1a0

>>349807
pick a fight with a neutronium golem.
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No. 40011 ID: 3785bf

>>349810
have sex with a neutronium golem
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No. 40013 ID: 3bad4c
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40013

>>349807
Have a riskbreaker one-hit you.
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No. 40031 ID: 950512

>>349807
Become the sex slave of the God of Dickings.
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No. 40043 ID: 00d3d5

>>349831
Become the God of Dickings and then get sealed into a can of beans by a clever autistic boy.
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No. 40071 ID: 0d095c

>>349843
Become sealed into a can of beans WITH a clever autistic- This train of thought is now dead.
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No. 40082 ID: 3bad4c

Interesting point:
Half-dragons live ~3x as long and mature 1/3rd as quickly.
So that means a half-dragon can get its first level at 54 years of age or so? o_O That doesn't seem very useful to a human.
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No. 40108 ID: 3bad4c

Does anyone know if there's a way to have a selection across multiple layers in SAI?

I wanted to remove some of the grey separating space.
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No. 40181 ID: 51853c

insert nitty gritty questions from main thread.
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No. 40182 ID: 3bad4c

1x AMULET OF NATURAL ARMOUR +1 - Increases AC by 1
1X +1 DAGGER - Weapon
1X +1 COMPOSITE LONGBOW (+2 STR BONUS) - Weapon
1X LESSER CRYSTAL OF RETURN - Attaches to a weapon. Teleports the weapon to hand and enables quickdraw of the weapon.
1X DIMENSIONAL HAVERSACK - Like a bag of holding
1X MITHRIL CHAIN SHIRT +1 - Increases AC by 5
1X CLOAK OF CHARISMA +2 - Increases Charisma by 2
1X HEALING BELT - 3 charges/day, heals 2d8 [1 charge], 3d8 [2 charges] or 4d8 [3 charges]
1X DRAGON SPIRIT AMULET - Expands the range of a draconic aura [useless]
1X RING OF COMMUNICATION - Communicates with other rings of communication within 1 mile [useless by itself]
1X OIL OF GREATER MAGIC WEAPON +3 - Temporarily turns a weapon into a +3 weapon
1X HAT OF DISGUISE - Allows the use of the disguise self illusion spell
1X BROOCH OF SHIELDING - Blocks magic missile damage (up to 101 points)
1X LESSER REVELATION CRYSTAL - Attaches to a weapon. When you hit an invisible creature it becomes visible for a round.
1X PHYLACTERY OF FAITHFULNESS - Lets you contemplate the effect on your alignment by an action you plan to take.
1X SALVE OF SLIPPERYNESS
1X +1 DARKWOOD SHIELD - Increases AC by 3
1X ARCANIST'S GLOVES - [useless]
1X SCROLL OF RESTORATION - [can't use]
1X CRYSTAL OF BENT SIGHT - Attaches to shield, allows you to avert your eyes from a creature with a gaze attack at no penalty.
1X AMBER AMULET OF VERMIN, GIANT BEE - Summons a giant bee once per day
1X LEAST CRYSTAL OF MIND CLOAKING - Attaches to armour. Increases saving throws vs. mind-affecting effects by 1.
1X AMBER AMULET OF VERMIN, GIANT WASP - Summons a giant wasp once per day
1X SCROLL OF WATER BREATHING [ARCANE] - [can't use]
1X EVERLASTING RATIONS - Creates enough rations to feed a person for a day, every day.
2X SCROLL OF DISPEL MAGIC [DIVINE] - [can't use]
1X POTION OF BULL'S STRENGTH - Temporarily increases Strength by 4.
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No. 40183 ID: 3bad4c

SALVE OF SLIPPERYNESS - Like a long lasting grease effect - either add to a surface to trip things up or use on self to make escaping confined spaces easier.
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No. 40184 ID: 51853c

can you attach multiple crystals per piece of equipment, and can you detach them?
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No. 40185 ID: 3bad4c

You can attach/detach them easily, but you can only have one crystal per piece of equipment.
That is, 1 armour crystal on your armour,
1 shield crystal on your shield
and 1 weapon crystal on each weapon.
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No. 40189 ID: 3bad4c

Powers known!
Manifester Level = 3
Power points = 15/day
1st level = 1PP base cost
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Inertial Armour: +4 armour to AC, +1 per 2PP spent for 1 hour/ML [max spent = ML] Does not stack with regular armour.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/inertialArmor.htm
Conceal Thoughts: +10 to Bluff for 10mins/ML, +4 vs. mindreading.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/concealThoughts.htm
Psionic Grease: Make surface slippery or make it easier to escape bonds
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/greasePsionic.htm
Know Direction and Location: Find North and the distance/name of nearest significant landmark/place
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/knowDirectionandLocation.htm
Thicken Skin: +1 natural armour to AC for 10mins/ML, does not stack with amulets of natural armour.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/thickenSkin.htm

2nd level = 3PP base cost
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Sustenance: Remove need to eat and drink for 24 hours - self only.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/sustenance.htm
Psionic Knock: Open doors and similar locked/stuck things. Does not work on ropes.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/knockPsionic.htm
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No. 40249 ID: 3bad4c

New character
Sex: M/F
Race:
Humanoid: Human, Dwarf, Elf, Halfling, Gnome + variants of these.
Skill #1: Warrior, Psionicist, Arcanist, Priest, Thief, Soulshaper or Other
Skill #2: Warrior, Psionicist, Arcanist, Priest, Thief, Soulshaper or Other
Background Happy, Sad or Horrible

Upgrade points
Current points: 273
Upgrade costs:
New Type Available
Monstrous Humanoid = 60 points
Fey = 180 points [*cannot be arcanists]
Outsider = 500 points [*cannot be arcanists]
Dragon = 400 points
Construct = 100 points [*cannot be arcanists]
Undead = 90 points
Plant = 140 points [*cannot be arcanists]
Giant = 200 points
Aberration = 300 points [*cannot be arcanists]
Magical Beast = 120 points
Item costs:
Ancestral weapon = 40 points
Ancient tech weapon = 60 points
Ancient tech transport =200 points
Ancient tech utility = 50 points

Don't suggest names until the end!
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No. 40250 ID: 3bad4c

New characters will be of a level equal to the party's average level (Currently 3/1 = 3rd level)
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No. 40251 ID: 00d3d5

>>350049
Male
Dwarf
Priest
Soulshaper
Double horrible

Not spending any points.
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No. 40252 ID: 3bad4c

Once a new race type is unlocked it stays unlocked, by the way.
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No. 40253 ID: c71597

>>350049
Female
Undead
Arcanist
Soulshaper
Sad and horrible.

Since you're drawing it you get to pick what sort of undead it is.
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No. 40254 ID: 3bad4c

It's just one vote for background.
If you pick more than one I'll just default to the more unpleasant one mentioned.
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No. 40255 ID: 83968b

unlock magical beasts. get aranea companion.

fuck. yar.
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No. 40256 ID: c71597

>>350054
Horrible it is then.
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No. 40258 ID: dee311

>>350051
backing this, let's save our points for a large unlock, like outsiders or something
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No. 40259 ID: 0d095c

>>350049
Unlock Magical Beasts
Female
Displacer Beast
Arcanist/Soulshaper
ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE PAST
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No. 40260 ID: ab494d

>>350053
2nd
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No. 40263 ID: 6e44d2

What's an outsider? It sounds really cool. Like, some sort of interdimensional being? Also, the item unlocks look pretty sweet.
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No. 40267 ID: 28e94e

>>350049
Male
Human
Warrior/thief
Sad background
Ancient tech weapon, ancient tech utility
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No. 40269 ID: c71597

>>350067
We're not making the god damn Batman.
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No. 40270 ID: 28e94e

>>350069
I can honestly say that I did not notice that until just now.
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No. 40271 ID: 3bad4c

Item costs are per character. ;)
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No. 40288 ID: 142907

since we're in an elf village
unlock fey
Female
Elf
Thief
Priest
Sad
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No. 40291 ID: c6a154

>>350067
YES
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No. 40297 ID: 3bad4c

We're getting close now. Any more votes for the following?
(• - current votes)
#1 [110pts] •• 'not the goddamn batman' male human warrior//thief, sad, ancient tech weapon, ancient tech utility #2 [90pts] •• female undead arcanist//soulshaper, horrible #3 [0pts] •• male dwarf priest//soulshaper, horrible #4 [0pts] • female elf thief//priest, sad

>>350063
Outsider is the collective creature type for creatures that arise spontaneously from the planes or arise from dead souls.
These include demons, devils, angels, slaadi and similar creatures.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#outsiderType
>>350088
>>350055
>>350059
Not unlocking fey or magical beast just yet.
• Elf is not a fey
• Minimum level for arenea is 7th, displacer beast is 10th.
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No. 40299 ID: 02de21

>>350097
Just so we're clear, if upgrade points are spent we will not be getting them back?
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No. 40300 ID: 07416a

>>350097
#3
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No. 40301 ID: 3bad4c

>>350099
That's right, they stay spent.
So you can unlock creature types for all future characters.
Or you can buy item enhancements for individual characters.
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No. 40303 ID: 02de21

>>350101
Ah. In that case, I will go with #2, since the spent points will purchase an unlock we will be able to use on subsequent characters if needed.
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No. 40304 ID: 46c430

#1. Horray for badass normals!
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No. 40313 ID: 3bad4c

Looks like we've got a three way tie then.

How about some names for these people?
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No. 40314 ID: 0d7a83

>>350113
Marther Vader,
Bruce Bain,
Jess Uss.
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No. 40317 ID: c71597

>>350113
Uesegi Shingen for the dwarf.
Credo Zuma for the human.
Svetlanna for the dead chick.
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No. 40318 ID: 3bad4c

...those are terrible names.
Ok nevermind, I'll come up with something.
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No. 40320 ID: 653c0a

votan for #2 then.
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No. 40346 ID: 0d095c

Numbor Two. PUNCH IT.
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No. 40350 ID: 28e94e

I'm still voting for #1, but if #2 wins then I'm pre-emptively voting to do #1 for our third character.

Also, I'm going to laugh if we somehow get a good end every single time.
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No. 40355 ID: 0d095c

My god. It's true! Quests NEVER end up like their title makes them out to be! Gun for Hire is now on track for Infinitely Godly Power quest, Golem Quest is now Infinitely Powerful God quest, Whitespace quest wasn't in Whitespace, and Bad End Quest had a GOOD END. What next, Defective involves NO MECHANICAL FAILURES? The World Is Mine involves us forming a democracy? Sorry, I'm just going crazy cuz I just noticed this trend.

Still voting for 2 though.
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No. 40362 ID: 3bad4c

Did you guys miss 'party mode unlocked'?

There's never going to be a good end, we're going to keep questing until they all inevitably fail.
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No. 40368 ID: 9202a9

>>350103
2nd number 2
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No. 40373 ID: 3bad4c

Still working on the character design for #2.
It takes a while because I'm a newb at art still.
Stats are worked out though.

Female Necropolitan Wood Elf Dread Necromancer 3//Incarnate 3
There aren't many low level undead player races.

Mmm, death. Tasty, tasty death.

I'll probably give her a randomly generated name.
Naivanna Nymus?
Versparki?
Nalar Ahreth?
Lafavelianna?
Arisha?
Aelhelvia?
Amasarspar?
Naik Koehlis?
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No. 40384 ID: c71597

>>350173
Versparki sounds good.
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No. 40387 ID: 1ae77f

Arisha
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No. 40400 ID: 3bad4c

Versparki Arisha
Female Necropolitan Wood Elf Dread Necromancer 3//Incarnate 3
Medium Undead (Augmented Humanoid)
Hit Dice: 3d12 (25hp)
Initiative: +1 (Dex)
Speed: 30ft.
AC: 15 (+1 Dex, +4 armour)
Base Attack/Grapple: +1/+1
Full Attack: charnel touch +1 melee touch (1d8 negative energy)
Space/Reach: 5ft./5ft.
Special Attacks: negative energy burst 1/day, charnel touch, spells, incarnum radiance 1/day
Special Qualities: low-light vision, rebuke undead, aura, detect opposition, undead traits (immunity to critical hits, sneak attack damage, poison, nausea, ability damage to physical ability scores, ability drain, negative energy, death effects, disease, stunning, mind-affecting effects, sleep, paralysis, nonlethal damage, energy drain), DR 2/magic and bludgeoning, turn resistance +2, resist control, unnatural resilience
Saves: Fort +3 Ref +2 Will +6
Immune to effects that force Fortitude saves unless they also affect objects.
+2 vs. control undead
Abilities: Str 10 Dex 12 Con 10 Int 10 Wis 16 Cha 18
Skills: Concentration +10, Knowledge (arcana) +2, Knowledge (religion) +2, Listen +5, Search +2, Speak Language (Common, Elven), Spellcraft +2, Spot +5
Feats: Corpsecrafter, Undead Meldshaper
Bonus Feats:
Type Bonus:
Proficiencies: Simple Weapons, Martial Weapon (battleaxe, longbow, rapier, shortbow, longsword), Light Armour, Medium Armour, Shields
Alignment: NE
ECL: 3rd

Equipment:
masterwork chain shirt
hat of disguise
masterwork longsword
masterwork shortbow

Spells Known:
1st – bane, bestow wound, cause fear, chill touch, detect magic, detect undead, doom, hide from undead, inflict light wounds, ray of enfeeblement, summon undead I, undetectable alignment
Spells per day: 6
Base: 5
Bonus: 1

Essentia: 3 (Capacity 1, 2 for soulmelds)
Chakra Binds: 1 (crown)
Soulmelds: 3
• Necrocarnum Circlet: Detect undead within 30ft. as if using blindsight. Undead within 30ft. gain +1 turn resistance per point of Essentia invested (or +2 per point if animated by the wearer). Bind (crown) - Can animate a corpse within 30ft. as a necrocarnum zombie until the soulmeld unshapes. You have a penalty to hp equal to the zombie's HD. Essentia invested in this soulmeld counts as Essentia available to the zombie. [Bound, 2 invested]
• Fellmist Robe: Gain a 10% concealment miss chance, plus +5% per point of Essentia invested (up to 50%) against nonadjacent attackers. Soul - Gain concealment even against adjacent attackers.
• Dissolving Spittle: Deal 1d6 acid damage to a target within 30ft. using a ranged touch attack. Provokes an attack of opportunity. +1d6 points of acid damage per point of Essentia invested. [1 invested]
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No. 40409 ID: 1ae77f

what rulebook is the incarnate class from?
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No. 40411 ID: 3bad4c

Magic of Incarnum.
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No. 40422 ID: 89ca25

waaait a second. shouldn't she, as an undead, have a constitution of nil? if not, how does she have 3 essentia with a con of 10?
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No. 40423 ID: 3bad4c

is a typo. It is definitely -.
The essentia is a class feature, and Constitution is unnecessary when one has the undead meldshaper feat, as far as I can tell.
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No. 40481 ID: 3bad4c

Is everybody having fun?

You can also pick the subconscious knowledge of either character here if you want.
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No. 40542 ID: 3bad4c
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40542

Anyone wanna design an outfit for Versparki?
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No. 40543 ID: c71597
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40543

Here you go, some that is always stylish and yet light and easy to move in. Making it easier to catch your targets, wheter they be pokemons or some horrid little elf child whose soul you're about to devour.
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No. 40552 ID: 0d095c
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40552

I just had this whole sudden Magicka vibe. Huh. Ah well.
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No. 40566 ID: f678f8
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40566

My attempt
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No. 40711 ID: 3bad4c

Must stop forgetting to draw backpack!
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No. 40750 ID: 3bad4c

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Bad_End_Quest_(Psithief)
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No. 40899 ID: 3bad4c

110 points deducted.
282 points remain.
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