Seeing as I'm the first to spot this thread, allow me to say: You totally rock.

>>318208
Seconding this because it is a verified fact.

jukashi: add saulanna as a background character in keychain of creation

exaltedfag: go fanboy allover jukashi

also cant anyone copypaste that crap and place it in the wiki?

OMGHIYOUAREAWESOME

Wait, is Jukashi the guy who does Keychain of Creation?

I'm quite down with a dramatic simplification of the system, considering how grossly complicated the original is.

"Okay, so do you guys want to use a Perfect on the third attack of the flurry this turn?"
"Argh I can't even remember what we're fighting about."

>>318220
Yeah.

>>318223
Holy shit, how could we possibly be that lucky?!

arr pe gee links us together. let us bathe in the glory of the internets.

>>318223
i want to see more people stunting. the MA setting of exalted was prety awesome in the meaning that it rewards you for being awesome, in a questthread its like ice cream and chicken pie: why HASNT anyone added these two before?

in a completely related news: i fail engrish.

>>318223
OH GOD I COULD DIE TOMMOROW AND I WOULD BE A HAPPY MAN.

Also pattern spiders.

so, soulanna was once a slave, or something that needed to be shackled. she is a smart, cunning person with a crap strenght and somewhat beauty. by the looks she was either a small servant or pimp material. if she could remember her past it would be easy to know what cities to avoid, all along with possible former clients.

i dont remember abyssal lore completely, but if this isnt the time of tumult, then we should be near a army of demons or some crap like it. the possibility of choosing from 5 chastes is however alluring, since a better specialization would be nice anyway.

the wyld hund should be on its peak due to the scarlet empress still being in charge. i sure hope it is the time of tumult, id rather deal with a abyssal soulmate for the lulz that with 5 experienced dragonblooded copying power rangers while hunting us down, possibly with trinkets and relics whose existance we cant even consider due to lolmemoryloss.

i think im gonna read up on spells next. i liked the idea of making a twilight-equivalent lunar.

>>318207
Shifting the infodump to this thread:

Well i like exalted, so imma let ya resume the quest but first exalted had the best settings of all time, and so id like to explain it to you.

we kinda started hard mode. first, lunars are exalted due to great deeds done by the need of them, usually costing sweat, blood and tears, when not limbs and children. we are likely a slave that had to punch trhu dragonblooded (common exalted, they win by numbers) and then survive for a few days in this deathland, with a few children already dead, if not all our friends/mates/whatever from where we used to live before being enslaved.

second, this is a deathland. it is so bad that this is the homeland of ghosts and deathknight, the evil equivalent of solar exalted. if we find a deathknight, it most definitively made this land (with the deaths of countless humans) to please its masters, and he can most likely eat/kill/tame/fuck us all in one. in this land they can recover "motes" (DM called it MP or moon points, but there are 5 types of motes, all wich empower different types of machines/magical stuff). outside of it, they recover by peforming generic evil stuff as we would gain by "stunting" in the name of luna.

third, a lunar exalt excels in physical deeds. while it may be bad to have so much inteligence related powers, luna spellcasters are some of the most dreadful casters in exalted because fo their resilience. we will soon have weird charms like a charm that lets you run faster that what you are chasing, and another that lets you run faster that what is chasing YOU. even the most modest of lunar exalted can undergo trainning much like the werewolves in WoD, wich will give us a mentor to other charms/skills and a snazzy glowing tatto that prevents disfigurement when we change shape in the wyld (a place even more inhospitable that deathlands, more on it later)

lunars are also shapeshifters. we can change to pure raccoon right now (so no furfaggotry), and if we partake in huntings, we can adquire other shapes, by consuming the heart of what we chase. but until we get the tatoos of moonsilver we have the risk of getting "xomified" with bad mutations all over us. this also affects ou minds, so we are likely to go insane. in game terms, we have a limit (wich is a curse from the deathknight's lord) that literally makes us snap and lose control, adquiring a mutation lower the requirement to have a limit break. we can also change shape to other people.

lunars are made to be a pair with solar exalted. some fo them have a natural link to their mate when they exalt, meaning you magically knows where the other one is. the bad news is that some solars have fallen to ebil hands, and are now abysmal exalted, or deathknights. its like emo goth vampires, but 300% more badass. expect tsundere/yandere love if our mate is abysmal.

if this is the time of tumult, we have 3 choices: full moon, no moon and changing moon. full moon are warriors, no moon are spies and the likes, changing moon is a amalgama of 3 types. lunar exalted had to hide in the wyld, wich corrupted their exaltation, rougthly changing moon favors 3 types, social battle, magic and crafting. we will get a definitive type later on with the tatoos, but until then we are directed by the moon type, so we are warriors now.

my suggestion is we go for changing moon. we can craft like hell with these status (we can make incredible stuff like power armor starcraft style, huge guns wich we do have how to yield, and other uncredible trinkets like mind control collars, weapons that can change themselves, etc), the spellcasting should come easy and we already got boobs so that 50% of all social battles won.

another thing. we already have enemies and friends on our tail. the wyld hunt was specialized in hunting lunar exaltations with their dragonblooded for over 1k years, least we get backup we are very dead. any close lunar tribe also realized our exaltation and so will come to hunt us down. in short words, they will force us to be tatooed, and to take a position with them regarding the current situation. the tatoos are good (and some tatoo crafters can make them with extra stuff), but they may be chauvinistic commies that will requires us to work for them, wich isnt always good.

lastly, the wyld is a place of quantum faggotry and cthlutu-style creatures. anything there is eventually xomified, also corrupting its mind and soul.

lunars had to hide there because dragonblooded rioted against their now cursed exalted masters (pehaps rightfully, pehaps not). they succeeded with the lunars retreat to the wyld, all solars where killed and had their exaltation captured but they didnt knew how to keep what the exalted made, so everything falled apart quickly.

then some sideral exalted (the most abstract of all exalted) coached them in weird martial arts, so they may tame gods (yeah, you herd it right, taming GODS) to keep what was left of all solar stuff. wich is like less that 10% of what was made. did i mention they where also cursed? noone rememeber you if you exalted as a sideral. only some essesce 2 beings (literally, anything inhuman) are able to retain memories of them, and that if the sideral so wants to. siderals craft and alter FATES, are able to punch LANGUAGES and trhow WORDS. we will likely face a few of them, but they are glass cannons style and we may just have resistance to them if we get the tatoos.

solars and abyssal excel in specific crafts (some of the best magical items comes from them, any specific task has a charm to peform it better that any other exalted), dragonblooded are natural generals, leading/trainning armies when possible. siderals are logistic support (tho its questionable, they have been failing since ever). lunars used to pair with solars, so they had generic buffs. while a solar may, for example, have a charm to give orders, a lunar would have a charm to magnify persuasion, thus allowing more versatility.

i dont play as a lunar, so i know very little of them ._. i still have all books on them, so if anyone wants a discussion, just make a trhead and let me know

>>318234
>Well i like exalted, so imma let ya resume the quest but first exalted had the best settings of all time, and so id like to explain it to you.

...was anyone else channeling Kayne West here?

>>318234
>>318235
>>318236
Shouldn't this be in /questdis/?

>>318237
Me too.

>>318237
That was the 'joke'

>>318232
Saulanna could also have been a criminal.

>>318243
a con artist pehaps, but with nearly no dexterity, thats unlikely.

Anonymous 2010/01/01(Fri)09:38 No. 8452 ID: bf8e75
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to boot:
skills
basic natural attack (claws, im assuming biting too)
basic woodwork (is this craft (wood)?)


charms:
BEAST SENSE
MOON CLAWS
FLOWING DEFENSE
WAR FORM

...Does "unfixed" mean she's not sterile, or...?

>>318320
i loled.

lunars need to have their chaste fixed. this is done with the tatooing process, and until then we are vulnerable to the effects of the wyld, along with xomification when we change shape.

Awww, but it was so much funnier the other way.

You know, if we get up to permanent limit 5 before getting tattooed, we get bonuses of being a chimera without being 100% crazy. :3c

>>318324
we just snap faster that normal!

no. we have too much into mind to risk more limit breaks that the usual.

if we could go for full moon that surely would be a good strategy.

>>318322
>chaste fixed
That typo makes it even funnier in the context of the prior post.

without going into spoilers, the dragon that soulanna found is the ebon dragon. he has some deathknights on his command and they favor eldrad-styled dickery and backstabbing.

so we do NOT greet statues of deathlords that can twist our soul with a few glares.

>>318369

The Ebon Dragon is a Yozi, he has nothing to do with deathknights. You're thinking of infernals.

I don't know any of this. Steal the Gem.

Shenanigans now.

>>318373
the hearthstone doesnt seem to be there, actualy. we may be able to salvage something if we destroy the manse.

>>318371
im almost sure you should have spoilered.

>>318371
THE EBON NEVERBORN
INFERNABYSSAL SCOURGE

(Yes, I'm familiar with Exalted fluff. I just think this is funnier.)

manses are naturally hard to destroy, even harder to make and relatively easy to defend. this one is exposed, has no guard and what looks like no traps near it, sure looking like a easy job.

some solar exalted made their manse with stuff that defies the crafties of the dorfs. we wont just break it with explosives, we need magical gurl powa to destroy it. this manse should have magic defending it, meaning a lot of hability to sulk damage.

some of the greatest exalted weapons could literally suck a manse dry, either by using it or by actualy eating it.

if we manage to find a truly wondrous weapon we may damage it. a grand daiklaive is too much for us to use, that leave us with very few choices, a bonestrider would likely dry us before damaging it, a energy cannon could be nice, but in a emoland, 2or 3 shots wot do it.

Hey guys! Just wanted to apologize a tad for leaving this as sporadic as I have, I've had some stuff to do. Maybe I could pay you back a bit by explaining the combat rules, since I didn't get Luna to explain when Saulanna was actually in combat?

Basically: highest INTUITION goes first, attacks are made using AGILITY plus applicable attack competencies, compare that to target's Agility plus relevant defense competencies. Equal or higher hits, so for example the zomby goast and Saulanna both had Agility of 2; Saulanna got a bonus of 1 to dodging from her BEAST SENSES but the goast himself had a bonus for his MINDLESS RAGE, and they cancel out.

So the goast then had Might 3 plus no bonus from his accuracy. Because she is Exalted, though, Saulanna can subtract her Toughness from that number (an ordinary mortal could take half their toughness from it). So because the zomby goast's claws add no damage (just make it "bleeding" damage) she just takes 1 point of health loss (and she doesn't bleed any extra, again for being Exalted). Health points are equal to twice a character's Toughness.

When she took her warform, then, things changed: her Agility increased, so the goast couldn't hit her. She was able to get him though, with a leftover bonus of 1, added to her new Might of 4 plus 1 extra damage from MOON CLAWS minus half the goast's Toughness (3) rounded up since it's a supernatural creature. Or 4 damage.

Simple enough?

The skill numbers used in combat can be enhanced by being cool, using magic or other bonuses such as EMOTIONS, just like everything else.

>>318908
>>318908
i was going to comment, but then i got too exited so i stfu'd.

i suppose we will need to alter the character sheet to show numbers :3

>Simple enough?
Compared to canon exalted, shit yeah.

>>318910
as a update, we got:

INTERMEDIATE MANSE MAKING SKILLS
BASIC KNOWLEDGE ON METAPHYSICS

one is like MAGICAL PLUMBING wich includes wormholes to teleport magic points to us, the other one is how magic behaves, wich includes cool stuff like GAIA is the source of all MAGIC, and she has a lezbo relationship with LUNA (not kidding).

we also have a sidequest! a FREAKING DEMON is in our head, he has been begging for us to let him be, but the truth is, he is smalltime against any exalted.

demons need a considerate amount of skill and strength to possess completely any exalt of any type. this leads to interesting possibilities for saulanna:

-attempting to tame the demons while he is still weak. he MAY have the charm to posses a exalted, if this is true we need to vanquish him before he recovers.
-milk him for information before dismissing him with a call to luna
-attempt to gain the taming charms/spells SOMEHOW (we may already have them, cursed memory loss) and tame him properly. this taming is quite perfect thanks to exaltation and can yield good results long term.
-attempt to join HOT GOAST DUDE and DEMONS to make a being strong enougth to pass the barrier at day.

>>319554

Translation: You now have some Occult, with a little understanding of the Art of Geomancy.

In future, though, a lot of competencies won't relate well to the Abilities in Exalted.

Anonymous 2010/02/12(Fri)16:26 No. 10585 ID: 2eac65
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Noticed the cameo in today's comic.

We love you too, Jukashi.

>>320385
WAIT SHIT I DIDN'T SEE THAT

>BEST SENSES

Gord dormit. Gonna have to lay off the booze.

>>322159
It happens.

Although "BEST SENSES" sound awesome.

Beast senses are the best senses.

>>322160
I keep reading it Breast Senses.

let's try playing the music box in front of the manse. those notes seem to make it seem like that will do something.

>>322179
not with 3 possible enemies outside. what if they want the music box that is with HOT GOAST DUDE in the outsi...

god dammit.

Test Pattern 2010/05/09(Sun)23:34 No. 15409 ID: 0fc814
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>>/quest/175748
>No! Why did we do that? We can't just go around dismembering people!

>>325209
OHHHHH BURRRRRRRN!!!

we could most likely troll them into giving us the box, but i go for the violent approach on this one.

they kinda knew that we are exalted and how fucking powerful a exalt can be, but then they would live, and that means backup to properly face a exalted.

I want to say I like this quest, but it's hard to get into when the updates are days or weeks apart. It's kind of irritatiing to know that the results of any choice we make won't show up for a week.

While we're waiting between ticks of the clock, what are Saulanaa's long-term goals going to be? It looks like the popular ones so far are "become Luna's consort" and "protect the innocent". I'd personally like to add "explore and learn about the world" to that, since that's one of my favorite things about questing. What are your thoughts?

>>325570
Honest discussion of likable quests = doomed effort on this board.

Probably needs moar dongs.

>>325574
Right. We can file that under "long-term plans for Saulanna".

Plan #4: Get More Dongs. It shouldn't be too difficult, since we're an Exalted shapeshifter.

>>325574
>Honest discussion of likable quests = doomed effort on this board.
All it takes is for more people to post their thoughts about it.

After thinking it over, I'm down with letting the mysterious demon thing mess with our minds a little. It's demonstrated that it can teach us things, and we desperately need more skills and information.

We can worry about throwing off its control later, if it proves to be evil.

>>325587
>We can worry about throwing off its control later, if it proves to be evil.
Not if it eats our brain and drives us around like a mechanical doll. This is the sort of thing you want to prevent before it has a chance to happen. Our lack of knowledge is a problem, yes, but it's also the very reason we can't trust people easily, especially with something like that. Shortcuts to power are how evil tempts the unwary.

>>325601
>Not if it eats our brain and drives us around like a mechanical doll.
Saulanna's a Lunar. It'll grow back.

>>325602
You are drastically overestimating the potency of an Exalted, especially a fresh one. We're powerful, but we're still basically human* and we should remember that. Without Charms, our physical attributes are barely above average; our primary advantage is our mind, and if we don't put it to use, we'll be at the mercy of any powerful force who doesn't feel like giving their competition time to grow.

*Apart from the raccoon bits, and they can't regrow brains either.

1) By the time it actually manages to pull stuff like that, we'll have a training montage or two under our belt.

2) Jumping out of a burning building and hoping to catch the fire escape across the alley beats waiting for the best solution to come along.

3) Do we ALWAYS have to pick the very safest, most cautious option worth the most paragon points? I was as hostile as anyone when we first found out this thing was opposed to the Incarna, but I think it'd be cool and interesting if we gave it a chance.

well yeah, to start we should stunt but noone is even trying to do that. then we have to remember that saulanna is not a good warrior, but a thinkerer. im hoping we can get some magic going because the only solid thing i remember of lunar mages is that they "rock really hard"

then we are so effing affraid of trying something that its just not even beginning to work. we shouldnt have JUST kicked its butt, we should have made a speech about how much is missing of us, how we need to protect the music box because its the only HALF lead we have to what we could had BEEN, and what we actualy are in a wondefully horrible world that literally shitted us on a deathland demmanding closure, a deed that no experienced exalted would pull on his own.

i have seen wonders of the first age. the little that there is on lunar is top tier stuff. you guys wanna go all WARSTRIDER/WARHAWK FUCK YEAH? we need that manse turned to serve us.

>>325628
then why don't you write up the epic speech next time?

>>325629
yeah im trying.

i felt like a ass when i wrote that reply ._.

Epic speeches are for epic moments. Nothing particularly epic has happened to us so far.

um.

we used to be a slave/servant exalted by luna, escaped to a land that requires the death of thousands to be made, found a HOT GOAST DUDE that we are trying to help for god knows what reason, to find a MENANCING MANSE near HOT GOAST DUDE's girlfriend house with a POSSESSED BOOKWORM that is problaby a demon that may or may not dick with un in our own mind, to find out that there is indeed a organization around (problaby led by a experienced DEATHKNIGHT or worse) that may just be looking for us, but are after the only exalted masterpiece we found. then we got possessed and DEMONIC BOOKWORM seems to be willing to help.

you know, this sounds like something coop would say before accidentaly destroying new jersey again.

>>325641
by pushing all three "DO NOT PUSH" buttons at the same time.

>>325641
Man, now you're making me want MegasQuest.

>>325641
That's pretty average by Exalted standards. "Epic" would be something like conquering a city or meeting our father who we haven't seen in 50 years.

>>325644
And that's why the Solars were dethroned.

>>325653
yeah, but in Megas using all three together somehow ends up saving the day without blowing up anything good because the downsides cancel out or something.

>>325655
No, it ends up saving the day by causing slightly more damage to the enemy than to the city. Which is a lot.

>>325653
thats actualy not completely accurate.

solars got over their heads up to the point of not caring to their work. they turned agaisnt their people when it suited their wills, stole what they believed that was rightfully theirs, etc, because of the curse that acted like a ultimate personality restriction breaker. i think that a coop solar would be dawn caste with the limit of lazing off instead of blowing everything, because he does not need a reason to blow up new jersey, nor to care to its safety.

what you described sounds like something a abyssal would do anyway.

>>325661
its called "wasteland war". you destroy not only the enemy but also what he may hope to gain from waging war against you.

GOD DAMMIT GUYS! are we going to kill the guy or not? we need to decide NOW or else salunna will be too paralyzed to take her body back and the book worm will take it.

>>325800
oops, too late. everyone decide what her personality is now so we don't have that happen again, when we are united she get's more powerful when we bicker she gets confused.

ENEMY DEFEATED
TWO UNITS OF MOON ENERGY ACQUIRED
PLOT AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION ACQUIRED

Plus the demon looks like Mew Cai. How can we distrust a face like that?

We will help those who are in need of help, and protect the innocent from those who would hurt and oppress them. We will do what is necessary to stop evildoers, but we will not act merely out of anger or revenge. We will not allow others to come to harm without a good reason.

>>325809
if death is what is necessary would you condone it? need to figure out the breaking points.

>>325813
It's a matter of necessity. If we can stop evildoers without killing them, we should.

>>325814
yes i understand that i'm saying that the ONLY way to stop them is death. they cannot be reasoned with and all non-lethal blows are shrugged off.

and who is to say non-lethal would even work? we take a guy down and the next day he comes back with a bunch of dudes, we take all of them down and a week later they have even more dudes with the first guy leading them. we can ether pray they never get enough dudes to over-power us or we can take them out.

>>325803
yeah i mean, so what if he eats souls for fun and kicks. i wonder what he would do once he fiigures out the exaltations were made out of souls.

>>325813
ideally: death is always unecessary. the boss thug could maybe have been turned into a ally, so he could literally fight in our side.

i really have to get my exalted reading going on. i did not realized neither the undead nor the demon could do all of that.

>>325821
and if the boss thug didn't want to be our ally? let's say the moment we let go he runs off to HIS boss and tells him where we are and then we are swarmed with a small army of ghosts, whos fault is it? ours, for not being extreme enough. just because you want to play nice doesn't mean you can.

i say salunna should be overall nice but if someone outright attacks us, an ally, or gets in the way of our mission they get a full force no mercy kill. you can be kind AND ruthless at the same time, you just need to prioritize.

>>325803
>Plus the demon looks like Mew Cai. How can we distrust a face like that?
1: It doesn't really have a face.
2: It eats people's souls and minds. If we trust it, we might end up an Akuma or worse.

>>325821
Probably not an ally, but with some careful bluffing and manipulation, we might have convinced him that he'd be cursed if he told anyone about us. We don't actually have an ability like that, but he didn't know that.

>i really have to get my exalted reading going on. i did not realized neither the undead nor the demon could do all of that.
This isn't going to work exactly like Exalted. We don't even know how much of the backstory is the same.

also, Jukashi, only one person wanted her to stop the demon while everyone else was cheering her on, unless length of post increases it's decision power he was clearly out-voted for the response.

>>325827
It probably has more to do with how Saulanna feels.

Our mistake was letting the serpent take control of the situation. We should have made it clear that it wasn't allowed to eat anyone's minds without our permission.

Saulanna's other problem is that she was conflicted about caring for someone she hated. We should help people based on what they need, not whether they like them. The sooner Saulanna understands and accepts this, the better.

Whatever we plan for the future, it's best to hold ourselves to a high standard now. It's much easier for a formerly good person to just stop caring than for a formerly evil person to live with guilt.

>>325825
i suppose the meaning of "ideally" and "maybe" was lost in its purpose.

"if" all of that where to happen a sample, common death is enougth. havin him eaten by a faceless demondragon bookworm thingie is pretty bad in my scale of badness.

>If we trust it, we might end up an Akuma or worse
exalted used to tame demons for fun. maybe we can get to that.

>>325834
we dont have acess to the whole char file but its a safe bet to say that saulanna has a high-ish "compassion" value.

im not sure how jukashi would interpretate, but if we are not saulanna in its whole but rather the player behind the character, he may use the system to put a stop in the orb's usual shenannigans.

also that was most likely the curse, so we know is on the 3rd impact time of tumult.

this also means its possible to claim shenannigans and force control over saulanna because it fits more her character file we got railroaded.

Jukashi!!WzMJSzZzWx 2010/05/22(Sat)18:37 No. 16066 ID: 8704fc
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Aright, I'm gonna explain this a bit. Get some more tutorial stuff in here.

Saulanna is a blank slate. She doesn't know anything. She has no memories. As a result, she has no morality of her own - it takes years of trial and error and culture and tutelage for a person to develop a sense of right and wrong based on their experiences. So, under most circumstances, Saulanna's choice of what player suggestion to follow will be based off an intellectual choice, i.e. what seems like it would work. Because she has no desires of her own (yet), she'll simply try to accomplish what your "consensus" goal seems to be.

Into this, however, comes her EMOTIONS. Emotions are important because, if you guys successfully pull off an EMOTIONAL APPEAL, she'll get a bonus to her actions, particularly in regards mental influence. This can stack with the bonus from cool and/or imaginative actions.

Now, I'll have an idea in my head of what Saulanna's emotional state is like, based on what she's done, what you've told her to do, and the situation at hand. So, for example, she's most recently been fighting ghosts who threatened a friend of hers, dismembered one guy violently, then got mentally violated. I figured her dominant emotion would be Anger, so when you guys made an Emotional Appeal to that anger, she got a bonus. But then another Emotional Appeal was made - to spare the mobster at least some portion of his punishment. This Appeal resonated with earlier motivations - the desire to help our ghost friend with his problems. Saulanna felt two valid EMOTIONS, but they conflicted and she suffered Emotional Confusion.

Which was not necessarily a bad or a good thing. Saulanna's future development is going to be based on prior choices (or lack thereof) and the fact that she didn't deliberately allow her attacker to be eaten will account for something.

In short, Emotions are a way to get bonuses on actions, bonuses that you may well need, but Saulanna will become trickier to control as she becomes more Emotional. If her Emotions get really high...

Well, we'll see what happens.

>>325866
Should we be trying to do flashy shit to regenerate Moon Power? Or can we regenerate it simply by doing well?

>>325866
tl;dr best RP gets a bonus!

only problem is that some people don't like being verbose but they could have some good ideas, while someone else could write a few paragraphs of a stupid idea and the stupid one would win because it's longer.

>>325908

More clarification: verbosity does not affect what Saulanna thinks is a good idea (i.e. what suggestion I pick). If it's a stupid idea it won't get chosen, because she's got good intelligence herself. It's usually only if you make an emotional appeal, while her Emotions are high, that she can be persuaded to do something stupid; in exactly the way that real people can be made to be idiots by their emotions.

Of course, she might also do something because it's cooler than a smarter but boring option. That's what Luna wants! But amount of words has nothing to do with it. Being creative and imaginative does, but that's not the same thing as a flood of prose.

In fact, if you wrote a "few paragraphs", I might be less likely to choose it because it'd probably be more work to follow up on. Also tl;dr might come into effect.

>>325914
okay cool.

a nice thing to get would be the ability to store things in Elsewhere, then we can stop worrying about the music box getting jacked.

You okay, Jukashi?

>>326203

He probably is. He does a webcomic as well (called Keychain of Creation), and presumably has an active well-adjusted social life (for a webcomic artist, I mean), so Lunar Quest moves a bit slowly.

I know, I just get worried when I don't hear from people in a while.

>an active well-adjusted social life

uh

>(for a webcomic artist, I mean)

Ah, yes. That's what I have.

I'm also gearing up for KoC comic 300, so y'know.

yeah, just don't do any '300' jokes. if i see a spartan i will rage,

>>326245
Nah, it'll be subtle. The 300th comic will be simple and restricted. Simple characters, simple backgrounds, simple colors. No more than the bare minimum. Just a few lines on a page.

You could say the layout would be quite...

Spartan.

>>326244
Oh, hey, you're back! It's nice to know you're not in any trouble.

>>326247
inb4 300 speech bubbles

Anonymous 2010/06/15(Tue)15:45 No. 17751 ID: 2eac65
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It's been two weeks and now I'm worried again.

Will these cute animals help?

>>327551
Well, Jukashi did post a bunch of Lantern Corps pics in the fanart thread somewhat recently. It's not like he disappeared.

>>327554
Yeah, you're right. Maybe I'm just making excuses to be greedy. Or maybe not. Either way, I hope he likes the puppies.

I, too, want Lunar Quest to continue. It's very interesting, and I like the writing style, but it's just so darned slow...

What I want to know is if the comic and quest take place in the same universe......

Well, that was quite a lot to handle. The puppies must have worked.

>>327608
We'll see. We've still got a lot of information to gather.

>>/quest/194957
>Aww yeah, we totally found the morality system.
Potentially, yes. We don't know what 'titan's will' means. It could be that the more we use our mysterious friend, the more connected we are with the Yozis/Primordials, which are the closest thing to titans in exalted. Or it could mean something completely different. We don't know.

>Do we go all grimdark by devouring more souls and gaining their power, or do we moralfag and struggle to succeed without all the abilities we could get?
>grimdark ... moralfag
Without being rude, I can't take anyone seriously when they say 'moralfag.' At all.

>>327638
moralfaggotry asides, we are the heroes. heroes dont eat souls. they recycle them!

also we lost our shackles!

and i think titan's will is a knack! i dont know from where =c

>also we lost our shackles!
Yeah. That was VERY cool.

If only we could find out whether the souls were going to lethe. Killing people is to be avoided either way, unless they've got it coming.

According to the 'accepted' morality of exalted, (as I understand it) ghosts are an aberration in the natural order of things, so sending them back into the reincarnation cycle is okay. Whether you agree or not is a personal value judgement.

>>327638
>Without being rude, I can't take anyone seriously when they say 'moralfag.' At all.
/b/ the only place you go that it's used?

>>327648
We aren't heroes, we're an Exalt. We can eat souls if we damn well please.

>>327638
I was never expecting to be taken seriously, which is why I went back and added the word grimdark as well. I just thought it was an amusingly retarded spectrum.

>>327650
not quite. abyssals do what they "damm as well please", infernals are psychotic engine of destruction, siderals are coach and managers with alchemicas acting like public servants.

solars are chosen for they have the will to do even better, on that means, they may indeed do whatever they can. anything else is just bad roleplay.

well, except that lunars are specialized in "breeding" and surviving, so we may as well be doing what we "damm as well please" if our captor decide to unite breeding and "surviving".

you are one of those solar players that uses the solar curse as a excuse to do shenanigans. arent you?

It doesn't matter what we're meant to be. We are what we choose to be.

I choose not to decide.

>>327660

>> lunars are specialized in "breeding" and surviving

c:

Okay so basically we are like the whole hinduism thing, we merge with other souls and attain a greater consciousness. This is entirely morally acceptable.

Also
>>327660
I don't think so. The curse is kind of an always negative thing. I might engage in shenanigans with other justifications though, depending on what you might call "shenanigans".

once we get enough will could we change physics? can only imagine how hard the siderealx would freak out. 1+1 suddenly equaling fish would probably fuck all plans up.

Anonymous 2010/06/18(Fri)22:22 No. 17969 ID: 2eac65
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We've got four daily updates in a row! That's a lot! Please accept these four puppies as tokens of gratitude.

>>327769
Those aren't puppies. Those are dinner.

>>327770
You want to eat the sun? My, you're an ambitious one! That's the sort of spirit the Exalted have!

I think you'll find it quite a bit harder than you expect, though.

>>327763
yus, the curse is always a bad thing. but you are not always under the effect of the curse.

its more like every day or so you are drunk and driving, you may get used to it and steer well enought to not crash too many things, or you could get used to being fucked by it and drive to crash just to see how you would get out of the mess.

>>327773
That's... kind of a bad metaphor. Crashing a car is much more directly bad than than the curse. The curse can often harm you only indirectly. And you can choose not to drink and drive.

FUCK IM FALLING DOWN ALL THIS EXPOSITION..........

>>327986
I WARNED YOU ABOUT EXPOSITION BRO!!!!

I TOLD YOU DOG!

>>327986
Just be happy you're using a mostly established setting.

Just imagine if you also had to out-and-out explain things like exaltation, incarna, the style of exalted, beastfolk, the world being flat, etc, etc.

On the other hand, I guess those concepts are pretty straightforward.

>>327994
TOO BAD, HERE IS BAD EXPLANATION FOR YOU.

>>/quest/197346
long story made short:

existance suddenly began. primordials appeared out of nothing, gathering in a place they named creation. they are a bunch of lazy elitist fags so they make these godlings bound to not hurt them while they play a game so great you have a orgasmic seizure just by touching the pieces.

these godlings are awsm, so they kinda want to have fun too. so they looked at humans and saw a way to use them agaisnt the primordials. but alas, they barely manipulate essence, and those that can only suceed after many years, making them old to be a warrior!

then this amazing primordial called autchocon autch-kun machine spirit Autochron showed everyone a exaltation. it was literally a toolkit made of souls that helped a chosen soul to kick butt while chewing bubblegun made out of willpower, magic essence and souls! suddenly he was selling them like water in the desert!

luna and unconquered sun got married 300 exalted each. each divine maiden got 20, totalizing 100 FATE NINJAS and 600 butt-kicking warriors, crafters, diplomats and the most venomous of all, divine lawyers. a era of awesomeness happened as everyone had no restrictions to their power watsoever, charms, motes and souls where exchanged like they where pokemon.

then some dragon discovered they could fuck humans (and airplanes) giving birth to a eartlhy exaltation, the dragonblooded. after everyone got together agaisnt the primordial, a humongous clusterfuck battle happened, many primordials died, many souls got eaten, everyone got cursed but noone noticed it, etc.

and we got where we are. maybe. its definitively after the battle. anyways, right AFTER the battle the godlings went to play the orgasmic seizure game while leaving the exalted to rule themselves while cursed. history repeats itself, the dragonblood with their un-controllable exaltation decides to overtrhow everything and suceeeds, but realizes their exaltations arent fit for research and crafting, the work of the exalted got abandoned or becamed utterly precious to be used. it was darker that dark age, even more so because gods did existed and exalted lawyers kept them on check, and working for creation.

the FATE NINJAS are fuckworried that everything is falling apart and so they decide to teach the dragonblooded a martial art tecnique that can hurt gods. with fear of dying (and possibly meeting the primordials they abandoned) cooperation "happened", but just at the bare minimun to make creation work. civilization didnt quite persisted, even more so because DEATHLORDS EVERYWHERE began killing, maiming and spreadin diseases. only 1/10th of all humans survived. we may be here.

now i didnt explained what happened to the solar and lunar exalted. the solars were either abandoned, betrayed or killed, unliked generally because of the curse. they resided for a long time in a coffing under the sea. lunars couldnt or didnt wanted to help the solars, so they ran to this place that makes cthulu and shoggoths in a fairly constant rate. after some SAN loss, lunars got 3 castes merged in 1. they remained with a constant rebirth rate in creation, some trying to make their own type of dragonblooded, called now beastmen. ruive may be one. the problem is, the FATE NINJAS also considered lunars a thread.

the FATE NINJAS helped organize a set of lies to help hunt down lunars, and later on, solars. in a constant basis, they would warn a group of veteran soldiers where a lunar exalt would appear, and thus where they could go to kill it, moments after it appears. on those days, lunars would dispatch help as well, as long as it wasnt in a city.

then someone decided it was time to have a diahrea in the loom of fate.

the solar exaltations where released by fukken demons, the empress that could use a defense network to literally say WE ARE ONLY ONE EMPIRE, YOUR ARGUMENT IS IRRELEVANT disapeared (rumor is, she likes big black dragon dick) and the hunters of lunars now see a better way to gain power, competing for the trhone. everyone is now in a power run, lunars and solars being rebirthed ALONG with deathlords attacking, abyssals appearing, godlings revolting and FATE NINJAS shitting themselves with so much work that the loom of fate was the least of their concerns.

oh and those solars?

they had stash of weapons from the primordial clusterfuck war spread EVERYWHERE.

>>328002
We know that already.

We're trying to stay in character.

>>327986

The level of exposition is pretty high, but I'm liking it. You're a good storyteller... as can be evidenced from the fact that I went from "We need to get rid of this demon ridin' our asses ASAP" to "Well, um, I guess he's not actually bad per se, and... Oh hell. I JUST WANNA HOLD HIM AND HUG HIM AND CALL HIM WORDSBLOOD."

Well played, sirrah. Well played.

>>328005

...Huh? We're not Saulanna. It's, like, right there at the beginning.

>???? can now hear VOICES OF THE PAST
>???? is now SAULANNA RICANYA ROCKBLOSSOM

We're those crazy durn VOICES OF THE PAST. There was actually a hint to Wordsblood being there as well:

>???? can now hear SOMETHING ELSE(?)

lastl i forgot. lunars are very resilient, and we should not have trouble becoming a exelent mage. there 2 together are hax.

>>328006
saulanna is tecnically a meritocracy of the orb with the vice-precidency of wordblood, our favorite primordial dragonbookwormdemonthingie.

>>328002

I think you forgot to mention the Fair Folk coming in from outside Creation for 'funtimes with chaos' becasue they thought reality was too boring without some extra Xom.

>>328009
i did not knew how to add them, nor the specific between wich events that happened.

anyway i was just about to realize. saulanna can somewhat easily learn magic, along with diplomacy required to become apprentice in every type of magic. add some defenses from lunar exaltation, we can master almost all types of magic. we started with a hard one, primordial magic, everything else will be easy from here on.

we can learn FATE MAGIC if we pull every string together, all we need is find a partially friendly FATE NINJA to use soon-to-be-adquired charms and social skills, we can learn solar sorcery from any mage exalt we encounter (guess what payment is =3) and if we get to a reliable dragonblood land we can learn their terrestrial circle sorcery, maybe even pretending to be a dragonblooded.

also pac saulanna. deathlands. free titan's will.

and we wasted one point dragging Gevin HOT GOAST DUDE to inside our head.

>>/quest/197371
>>/quest/197348
>>/quest/197347
>>/quest/197339
>>/quest/197294
>>/quest/197288

5copper, there is no god damn reason to make six posts in response to one update.

wait... what if we eat another exalted soul? would we absorb the exaltation essence as well?

>>328011
>wasted one point dragging Gevin HOT GOAST DUDE to inside our head

That ability will also facilitate the capture of souls for eating, so I would hardly call it a waste. Unless, of course, you aren't going to eat any more souls. But if Saulanna has enough Titan's Will, she can pretty much do... anything.

If she has enough.

So I know virtually nothing of the more detailed aspects of the setting and need to know something important. Namely, does eating souls stick them back into some kind of life cycle or does it just get rid of them for good? And is that a bad thing?

5Copper!OcWN4aulz6 2010/06/22(Tue)20:10 No. 18220 ID: ff6cf4
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>>328018
OHGOD I KNEW IT WE ARE PACWOMAN

>>328015
y u mad bra?

this is me every dammed time i read something i wrote.

>>328019
it sends them to the biggest wait line in existance in order to be reborn.

>>328020
what you are supposed to do is delete the old post and combine the old words and the new words into another post. so next time you forget copy paste your post into the field and then start writing the new stuff. after you submit it delete the old one.

>>328020
Delete and repost when you mess up, like I do way too often.

>Namely, does eating souls stick them back into some kind of life cycle or does it just get rid of them for good? And is that a bad thing?
From what Wordblood says, neither. He absorbs them and makes them a part of himself. Which is pretty Bad End, I gotta admit.

I vote we just pretend that the soul bits are going into lethe, in an effort to get people to vote for more power-eating, because that is way more fun.

>That ability will also facilitate the capture of souls for eating, so I would hardly call it a waste.
Capturing souls in a mind-palace with a mind-prison in the mind-basement is completely over the top awesome. I'd be in favor of it even if it WASN'T our main route to power.

>Unless, of course, you aren't going to eat any more souls.
It is possible. Tough to judge what /quest/ will go for, but these days there's a pretty strong 'save the day with zero casualties' streak in the posters.
>But if Saulanna has enough Titan's Will, she can pretty much do... anything.
I like the sound of that! It seems like the lunars could use a boost in this game. Speculating from what Gevin said, they were kicking deathlord ass for awhile, then got kinda fucked up and scattered.

Setting ourselves up as a sorcerous overlady, beating back the forces of death and the locust crusade, and then forcing some level of reconciliation between the remains of the titans and the gods, seems like a sufficiently epic goal for a celestial exalt.

>>328023
still, reincarnation resluts in all your memories being purged from your soul and then being stuck in a new baby body. and so many souls are in line waiting for a new body that we could eat millions of them and a line would still be forming. so yeah eating the souls doesn't result in a worse end for them then normal.

>>328025
isnt that tecnically a good thing that we do it with the dead? or was just the bodies?

>>328025
I think the most rationalization we can do is that turning ourselves into a primordial-fueled powerhouse will let us better oppose the deathlords, and thus we're sacrificing a small number of ghosts to save millions.

once we get powerful enough we can EAT the deathlords.

>>328034
i do belive we can eat souls with certain impunity. we should keep that a secret however, and we have to pick those that arent useful for us.

why not consume Gevin HOT GOAST DUDE for 2 of titans will?

>>328042
But... fixating unreasonably on the well being of certain mortals while allowing the deaths of many others is a big part of being an exalt.

>>328042
Because we like Gevin? :V

it was a serious question.

Gevin has no use for us, unless we empower him. thats at least 1 less titan's will. we can get power word or moon power from that, maybe even increase our bust and have 200% more fanservice. admitidely, gevin may help in battles if he steals people body.

he can talk to us about everything he knows but this can also be archieved if we eat his soul.

we may need him to keep contact with ruive. but why we want to do that again? he has been a burden since the beginning. and we are yet to see what the music box does.

we cant ressurect him, in fact, we killed his old body. we cant make him into a useful "something" unless wordblood somehow finds a use like hiding in his head instead of ours, or empowering him with a bonestrider. wich would be cool, but at least 2 months to make the bonestrider unless we get a specific set of charms. again, more titan's will is needed.

we need to look at this approach, because we have a primordial with us. he is somewhat loyal to us but he is in our head, and thus, actualy in debt with us.

saulanna will go to sleep soon, and we will one day wake up without gevin, and wordblood will "swear" he does not know why he runned off in a manner we cannot track him.

are we a instrument of damnation or salvation? is wordblood part of it? can we trust him? should we set a quota of souls to eat in order to ensure his trust or loyalty?

i had a intricated plan to figure out if he was part of the ebon dragon, but it mostly involves asking luna to ask the ebon dragon.

>>328049
>we cant ressurect him, in fact, we killed his old body.
What? No.

>>328049
It was a serious answer.

>>328052
im pretty sure the zombie we faced in the beginning was his.

>>328053
oh :V

>>328056
the zombie was a zombie goast, it was a ghost as well. his body is a bunch of bones in the mud in an old river, he died from a tree falling on him.

>>328057
oh yeah, his zombie counterpart is yet to rise then.

well, still. ressurection is impossible in exalted.

>>328060
>enough Titan's Will
>anything

This quest ain't gonna pussy out when it comes to temptation!

>>328065
You really know how to dangle carrots.

if we get strong enough we can eat the sticks too.

>>328067

I can hardly do otherwise with how I've set things up! Theoretically Saulanna could reach a stage where she could wander off beyond the edge of reality and make herself a new world, with whatever rules she wishes.

Of course, this whole Titan's Will thing is just one option. Saulanna can still become powerful as a Lunar does normally (with slight modifications to the process to facilitate the medium of a quest, of course), and follow paths of development in shapeshifting or sorcery or martial arts or whatever, as any Champion of the gods can. Don't think Titan's Will is "the" system for getting stronger in this Quest. I will say, however, that Wordblood's presence and the options he presents are what make Saulanna unique; no other character in the setting will be able to use Words of Power, for example (unless Saulanna/Wordblood teaches or grants such an ability to them). Of course, there are drawbacks to being unique.

I have a few different "end conditions" for the quest thought up; some good ends, some bad ends, and some... debatably good or bad ends. I will probably end up thinking of more before long.

>>328065
yeahbut
>>/quest/197529

>>328070
Oh god I lol'd.

>>328073
so wordblood confirmed for BFF?

Personally, I vote eating souls is kosher, so long as we just happen to run into those souls anyways, no slaughtering villages for power but if we're punching people well we may as well, they're probably bad people if we're punching them.

Also voting on powering up Wordblood right now, to make future powerups better.

>>328101
upgrading wordblood would cost 2 titans will, and we would not be able to get power word until we feed again.

considering we are being hunted, we may get live targets rather that souls to eat. we really should get power word and stop there.

>>328120

There are other options for powering him up besides just increasing his Soul Force. Giving him increased Ease of Consumption would help him absorb powerful souls with less difficulty, and reduce the "stun" that comes with the absorption; or Efficiency of Consumption would reduce the lightshow that comes with it, and provide an additional measure of Titan's Will each time a soul is absorbed. Both of these would cost only one measure of Titan's Will to improve. There are other things as well.

In that case, Efficiency of Consumption sounds like a solid investment.

Power Word: Halt sounds like another. Especially since these have broad applications. That could stop someone chasing us, or stop someone from falling to their death, or stop an arrow in mid flight, or halt the water in a river so we can run across the surface.

Hesitant to suggest these, if only because raw Agility is always just so gosh darned useful in almost any circumstance. (And not just because it's the godstat in White Wolf)

>>328124
Yeah Efficiency of Consumption sounds like the best plan, just because assuming we make this soul-eating a habit it'll add up to more "points" to spend on things later.

Efficiency of Consumption seems to be a smart move. Small cost now for bigger payoff later. It's like making another resource-gatherer in an RTS.

As for the souls thing, I give in to the temptation. As long as we're not going out of our way to devour innocents.

efficiency + power word sounds like the best course of action. just got to post it in the thread '-'

>>328130
Just to be absolutely clear: We need to specify a word of power. We can't just have all of them.

This isn't the appropriate time to be discussing this. We should get to a safe place, check up on our current abilities, sort out our priorities, then decide how to upgrade ourselves in accordance to what we have, what we lack, and what we want.

>>328135
Maybe. If we ARE going to get a Word of Power, or more Agility, then we should do it ASAP so it can help us out.

>>328136
That might close off other, more expensive and useful options that we'd have wanted to pick later. We have MP to help us in the short term.

>>328138
Well, with that attitude, we'll never pick ANYthing. Every decision closes off other opportunities.

if we eat enough souls then we can get everything.

I will add another note to say that, because Wordblood is residing in Saulanna's mindspace, where time flows differently, he can make changes to himself and craft words of power and such instantly. It's only when Titan's Will is used to affect the external world (including Saulanna's body) that it will take time, depending on what it is that's being done.

>>328139
Which is why we shouldn't rush into it by focusing too much on the immediate problem.

>>328141
Wait, we do have to pay TW for each Word of Power we learn, right? Or do I misunderstand?

>>328142
Buying an ability to let us get more TW per ghost we eat is hardly rushing into things to solve the immediate problem.
Also, we should indeed consider taking abilities to solve the immediate problem. Unspent points are no use if we die.

>>328143
If we decide eating souls for power is something we actually want to do.

We're not in immediate danger of dying, and the situation looks like one we've got under control. We can afford to delay.

>>328143

Each Word of Power made will cost TW, yes. Very strong ones may cost two to three or even more (a two-point example would be Power Word: Protection, which will create protection appropriate to a target danger for Saulanna or for any person or object she specifies); most will probably cost one (such as Burn, or Sleep, or the proposed Halt), and very weak ones might be available for multiples per measure (those would mostly be Power Nouns which create commonplace or minor objects, such as Light or Water).

The effect of individual Power Words will ramp up with the total Soul Force available to Saulanna. The suggested Power Word Halt, at her current level, will cease any motion that is currently imparted to a creature or object. Objects in flight or falling will hang in midair. But it won't stop things from moving in new ways, so an object can just be picked up and a person can just start moving again as they wish (though if they're Halted in midair, they'll only flail around, because gravity's been canceled). As she got more powerful, Halt would become capable of a temporary stasis effect of increasing duration, leading up eventually to permanence at the highest levels.

Words of Power will be vulnerable to magic that protects people from spells and such, including the countermagic of sorcery.

>>328144
this isnt necessarily true. we are being chased, if we need time to peform upgrades we should do so now.

efficiency and moon power seem to be the way to go now. power word is just too vast to get with few TW.

>>328147
Our pursuers aren't in the immediate area. If we do get in a fight, a physical enhancement won't make much of a difference, and other things won't take any time to apply.

I really want to clear up our priorities before we use up our resources.

>>328149
>If we do get in a fight, a physical enhancement won't make much of a difference
That's just your opinion.

Whew, I'm beginning to see why other quests don't try these sort of complicated character growth decision shenanigans!

>>328171
Just count yourself lucky you tossed up a discussion thread. And even then...

>>328171
It works more smoothly for less popular quests. Sorry.

>>328171
I don't have a problem with it, except that it's happening at this specific moment in time.

>>328174
What, we don't have enough time to think it over?

I can see the argument in keeping a few spare points, but I think that just getting things to benefit us will help more, because you can ALWAYS make the argument for keeping them in reserve. "What if I need them MORE at a later point?"

Also, I bet it'd be possible to let Saulanna store things in her mind other than ghosts and spirits. Like maybe an inventory.

Hey can we get like a vote thing going? I haven't been following the discussion but if someone collects up all the ideas of what to use TW on and puts them in poll format then maybe we can actually decide what to do!

>>/quest/198792
I'd just like to make it clear that Luna can't remove someone's exaltation if she stops approving of their actions. And that's just assuming that consorting with demons is enough to make Luna pissy at an exalt, which isn't true.

...unless that's different from canon.

But honestly, do you think just spending XP-equivalent will make the gods destroy us? Don't be so paranoid.

>>328179
There is no need to use it right this instant. Our situation isn't that urgent.

>>328183
I thought you said the situation was too urgent to spend XP. Now it's not urgent enough to spend XP?

Let's just agree to disagree.

>>328184
I said there were more immediate concerns we should be focusing on, and we can spend our will after gathering enough information to have some clue on what we want to spend it on. I didn't say that we would get killed if we didn't use it immediately on something that might help us.

And don't say that we might as well never use it. That's a false dilemma. I would have no problem talking about what we want to use it for if we had some idea of what we want to do. I just don't want to waste it on a problem we don't even know we need any help with. "Not now" doesn't mean "never".

>>328182
We have reason to keep our involvement with Wordblood a secret. If Luna asks any questions on what we've been up to, we'll want to be able to provide answers that are consistent with what she can see and won't make her suspicious.

>>328146
i have been thinking, i belive there is a way to "ressurect" someone, we would need a power word aging, someone able to give birth (maybe we already do!) and a means to emulate domnica's mantle (page 85 of scrolls of exalts).

i think we could use lunar charms to change minor appearance in the baby if needed. im not sure on that part.

>>328182
tecnically luna can send one of her moonsilver clone to kill us. i do think wordblood can pass as a "common akuma" if the need arises, so this shouldnt come to happen.

remember that primordials are a big deal, so much that there is the possibility that luna would call to arms to capture wordblood.

you need a essence 9 charm to "kill" a primordial, noone in the setting after the fall of the solars should/would possess that, maybe not even a deathlord.

>>328185
luna had more that one of her exalt simply defecting to deathlords. some of them serve them willingly. she in fact has absolutely no reason to keep track of us, and the only reason she does such is because jukashi is a cool guy (TM) and didnt wanted to add a DMPC to teach us so early in game.

let it go, luna doesnt care to what we do.

Test Pattern 2010/06/25(Fri)15:31 No. 18391 ID: 8bdb6a
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>moonsilver clone
wat

>>328191
of course its not called clone. its some sort of bullshit charm (like everything high end in exalted) that allowed luna to make 3+ copies of her. its how she greets her exalted. its on glories of the most high, where every god was stated.

unconquered sun simply summoned them.

>>/quest/198921
yes the world sucks. but you dont understand WHY. we cant even KILL wordblood properly. if he decides to have a snack on us or use TW on his own, we dont have how to stop him. without knowing what created this, we would simply recreate the tragedy that already happened twice.

shit sucks so bad that you literally cant call for help of heavens office because they literally hate your guts for things that you dont remember, problaby do not want to remember and if you did, would not really object against our death. luna would most likely not act against us directly but there would definitively be proper retaliation against wordblood.

the primordial created their servants that command the exalted. every single one of them is now cursed and cannot act in their own free will. we may just possess the power needed to break those chains, up to the point of actualy forcing equality between all parts. and then again, we can do some more.

solar and lunar exalt have a curse that makes them act "unrestrained" for some time. add power and merit to it and you get a power hungry dude that kills, fucks and steals as he pleases. in the end of the first age, not even solar exalts could tolerate other solar exalts. we can break that curse. its gonna be "fun" to discover it, but we can.

we can do little against abyssals and infernals directly. some of them may be "turned" or conviced but not all would listed, but there are more ordinary ways of turning them to solar or simply riding them of their resonance "curse". we can act against deathlords, but this would require a huge amount of manpower.

autochron detected the curse, he isolated himself in elsewhere because heaven's office was "bothered" by his existance. his exalted are the ones invading the south. if he wakes up we can repair the lunar exaltation (wich we dont know that is broken yet) make new exalts and methodically fight the deathlords. wich we can also free of their prison and oaths of servitude to the dead primordials/yotzi/whatever.

we can visit the mountainfolk, first creation of autocrhon. their tunnels literally connect creation as a whole, even their weakest exalt can make artifact of great wonder. they are a dying breed and, you guessed it, they are under a curse to not act on creation. we dont even need to break the curse to literally ask them for awesome stuff, imagine what they would do once they know alchemicals are on the south and rising.

and heavens office? infernals. you dont want to know.

there is too much that saulanna can do with wordblood. we cannot deny this is a plot device. we must plot for its use, but not to rely or abuse it.

>>328197
I wasn't pushing for any particular course of action, or trying to decide which side was in the wrong. I was only advocating the general worldview of "the strong should help the weak". I didn't even want to make that speech until we found out much more about the setting; that's one of the reasons I was so insistent that we put aside our plans for the future for just a few ticks while we solve our more immediate problems.

We got too far ahead of ourselves, and what happened? We lost control. We're lucky it happened now and all we did was eat a fish. In the future, the consequences could be much worse.

>>328198
yes, we need to focus on the here and now at the moment due to having too little power to effect long term plans. most likely salunna's blank slate state is a result of wordblood being in her when she was exalted, resulting in the exalted memories being turned into energy for wordblood to power up.

>>328198
If it's not too much trouble, could you try to make fewer posts in the in-character thread? And especially not just make posts replying negatively to other people's suggestions?

Of the last fifty posts in the in-character thread, more than a dozen are yours.

the best thing would be to eat the ghost of a lunar. we would learn how to do everything they could do, gain all charms, spells, whatever that they had.

>>328202
I try to say everything I have to say in one post, but I don't always think of everything the first time. Sometimes, I think of reasons why other suggestions wouldn't end well.

>>328216
well stop. no matter how eloquent your write it you cannot change someone opinion.

>>328217
Worse, he might convince people that they're not "good" enough to make suggestions, or that they don't want to deal with the hassle of it, which is basically just browbeating them out of participating, which is bad.

Every single possible course of action, including doing nothing, including the most cautious possible course of action, has many things that could go wrong.

>>328217
Some people listen to advice and gain a new perspective on their ideas. That can help them refine their ideas, or choose better ones.

>>328218
Other people get angry and make personal accusations.

Can we please not have an argument here? I didn't want to have the last one, and having another one will just make us all angry.

>>328207

Do lunar ghosts even exist? I thought the whole premise of exaltation was that Luna collected the souls of her dead champions and threw 'em back into worthy mortals.

>>328222

Well. You have shown a slight tendency to be snarky and opinionated when responding to some suggestions.

For example, you say you disapprove of a specific suggestion and explain why. When someone then throws his support behind that suggestion anyway, you >> the post and say "Let's not do this again", because...Why?

Did you think you had concluded the issue by explaining that this wasn't something we should do, in your opinion?

Sir, that is not how /Quest works. Kindly revise your feedback method.

>Serious advice is pretty serious.

>>328216 >>328222
Try to cut your reasoning out and put it here. Crossboard link it (>>/questdis/328277) if you must. Downvoting a particular action is okay if you've advocated another one, but posting "Guys maybe you should think this through first," in the thread starts really derailing it.

>>328222
This is actually the right place to have an argument. Or was that post originally from the quest thread?

At any rate, Quest-Discussions is where we discuss and argue about quests. Quest threads are where we suggest. Posts in /quest/ should be suggestions only. I wish more people followed that rule.

>>328276
>Do lunar ghosts even exist?

The Exalted can leave ghosts, at least in theory. For example, the Deathlords, the 13 most powerful ghosts (disregarding the Neverborn), are the ghosts of Solars who died in the Usurpation.

Pyeh, nevermind my derailing.

Since this IS a discussion thread, I have a query for y'all: On what and why SHOULD we spend our Titan's Will on right now (or later), if at all? I'm just trying to see where the consensus is at.

Remember, our current supply is 2 TW, and these are our current options. And remember, PHYSICAL/EXTERNAL changes will take time, whereas SPIRITUAL/INTERNAL changes will not. Both will probably flare up our SOUL FIRE thingy again, unless we buy the Titan's Work that reduces that.

>Wordsblood's Titan's Works
>Efficiency of Consumption

It gives us a dot more of Titan's Will when we munch on delicious [strike]cake[/strike] souls, and turns us into less of a lightshow.

Cost: 1 TW

>Wordsblood's Titan's Works
>Ease of Consumption

Lets us OM NOM NOM stronger souls easier and with less stun feedback.

Cost: 1 TW

>Words of Power: Whatever.

So many uses.

Cost 1-3 TW, depending on power scale.

I'm currently championing getting us "Power Word: Confusion", due to it being useful in dealing with opponents with no sorcery defenses. Should cost 1 TW.

Getting "Power Word: Halt" should be handy as well, so I'd support that. Should also cost 1 TW.

>Soul Force+ Saulanna

We get more Lunar abilities and greater potential for shapeshifting. The strength of her Power Words will increase. We also get 3 moon dots.

Cost: 2 TW

>Soul Force+ Wordsblood

+3 moon dots. Wordsblood becomes able to tell us what powers Saulanna can get and generally performing better (for example, enhancing Gevin with TW becomes easier).

Cost: 2 TW

In lieu of getting Power Words, I'm supporting this, since a stronger Wordsblood can do more stuff, and tell us more about possible Lunar Abilities. I'm pretty sure he's trustworthy enough to boost a bit.

>Enhancing Gevin.

As I understand it, we'll sort of be 'exalting' a ghost with some of our power (i.e. Titan's Will). Not sure quite what the enhancement options are, but be aware that Wordsblood has said he needs to be stronger to do this without risking screwing up.

Cost: ?

>Increasing physical stat: Might, Agility, Toughness, Beauty

What it says. Improves a stat.

[Personal note: Why is Agility so important to boost? I get that we become faster and better able to handle combat, but wouldn't a couple of Power Words or well-written suggestions let us kick ass anyway? Maybe it's just that I'm not really behind the whole 'make her a kick-ass warrior' idea.]

Cost: ?

>Make other permanent physical alterations

The implications of this should be obvious. In before Godzilla Warform wrestling Ebon Dragon suggestion.

Cost: ? (probably scope-dependant)

>Draw forth dormant MOON ABILITIES or increase capacity to SHAPESHIFT.

Rather than increasing soul force to get Moon Abilities and increasing shapeshifting capabilities, Wordsblood can draw them forth or increase them specifically. At his current strength, he'll be drawing 'em out at random, as he can't tell us what these abilities are yet.

[Note: What's the benefit of this? Are there any specific abilities we would want to hunt down and get, in lieu of steadily increasing her SOUL FORCE?]

Cost: ?

And that's all, I think. Anyone spot an option I missed?

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>>328276
Your advice has been noted.

Squabbles like that are unpleasant for me, too. They make it hard to maintain the endearing cheerfulness I try to project.

Please accept this melon as an apology.

>Why is Agility so important to boost? I get that we become faster and better able to handle combat, but wouldn't a couple of Power Words or well-written suggestions let us kick ass anyway? Maybe it's just that I'm not really behind the whole 'make her a kick-ass warrior' idea.
Well, I dig the idea of using our brain instead of our brawn, but I don't feel we can always avoid combat. And even if we are avoiding combat, agility lets you literally avoid combat.
Agility is to-hit and defense, as I understand. When we were trying to beat that ghost, he was just a bit too quick for us. If we had higher agility, we wouldn't have needed to spend an MP on boosting agility. Plus, maybe some day (or potentially tonight!) we'll be fighting an exalt, and boosting our (improved) agility is the only thing we can do to avoid getting killed.
Plus, it has noncombat applications. When we were up against that cliff, our agility was too low to climb it (or am I mistaken?) and we also had an idea to punch it in the precise location to cause a rockslide, but our agility was too low for that, too. Sure, we got up the cliff anyway, but I like having more options.

It's just a really useful stat. I'm not saying we should spend LOTS of TW on it. Just enough to make us more survivable in a pinch, (I cannot overstress the value of survivability) and so we don't always have to spend an MP on every little thing.

PS: I don't think that we can rely on "well written suggestions" for attack/defense. Nothing we tried, short of spending an MP, would let us hit that ghost boss. I also don't think we should go "Oh, we can train that normally later." I mean, when we actually get time to train, I can't imagine that we'll go "oh, well, we could have trained agility, but our agility is too high, so now we wasted our chance and cannot do anything!"

Sorry to be so long winded.

Yes, now's the time to talk about upgrading! I said "when we have a chance to rest", and I'm standing by that.

Enhancing Saulanna's physical stats, I recommend against. We can train for that, and we can do so much more with Titan's Will.

Getting more Moon Magic would be a good idea if we could pick what we get, but we can't, so deciding on that is like not deciding at all.

Boosting Soul Force would give us more raw power. Probably a good idea in the future, but in the short term I think it would be best to get more options. We're supposed to be a tricky one, so we need tricks to work with.

Ease of Consumption implies that we plan on eating souls as a routine matter. I am against it.

Efficiency of Consumption would decrease the number of souls we need to get future upgrades. That is much easier to accept.

Our best options seem to be giving Wordblood access to new Titan's Works or Words of Power. Here are some ideas from me, though I don't know how plausible they are:

Dream Snare
Pulls a living soul out of its body, without killing it. The body appears to be asleep for the duration of the effect. If the soul is released, it returns to the body unharmed.

Dream Palace
Creates an illusionary world inside Saulanna's mind. Helpful for training and conditioning trapped spirits.

Soul Vivisection
Cuts out pieces of a soul without destroying it entirely, allowing us to absorb some memories and Titan's Will while leaving the victim alive. Since one spirit gave us three measures, this should theoretically be possible.

Power Word: "Submit"
Forces the target to cease whatever action they are performing and become receptive to commands. Can quickly end a fight, and aid in certain kinds of social interaction.

Power Word: "Confess"
Forces the target to speak any secrets they're trying to hide. Also usable on objects designed with a hidden purpose, such as secret doors and coded messages, indicating said purpose with glowing runes.

Power Word: "Fail"
Cancels out any efforts made by the target. Attacks miss, spells fizzle, and the like.

Before we can decide what to get next, though, we should know what we've got now. What's our current assortment of Moon Abilities?

>What's our current assortment of Moon Abilities?

Man, when people asked for combat-related MAs I put them up right away. I was wondering how long it'd take for someone to just ask for the complete list.

Saulanna has:

MOON ABILITIES
Beast Senses
Increases the senses of touch, hearing and smell, and allows Saulanna to sense any immaterial spirits of consequence.

Moon Claws
Saulanna can spring long claws of moonsilver from her hands, which deal high damage and can touch immaterial creatures.

Flowing Defense
Saulanna's body takes on a fluidity that allows it to ease itself around non-magical bludgeoning or cutting attacks, so long as she's aware of them.

Inner Den
Saulanna can store a limited number and size of objects in her Mindspace, increasing as her Soul Force does.

Mask Sneak
So long as her Soul Fire isn't showing, Saulanna can pull a shroud of unnoticeability about herself that will render her invisible to mundane perception, scaling up to thwart magical senses of increasing power as her Soul Force grows.

Black-stripe Thief
Saulanna can ease her way through nonmagical bonds and open nonmagical doors or containers. Scales up to manage magical versions with Soul Force.

SHAPESHIFTING
Human Form
Totem Form
War Form
Captured Form

Captured Forms:
Pale Salmon

>>328287
2 of these habilities you could find in adamand circle of spells. they are hax.

we should also consider options to affect objects. im not creative at all wich is why i dislike power word now. terrestrial circle sound so appealing now =c

>>328286
there are better means to defend "uselves". exalted have perfect defense charms, these are literally required after some point in game. if agility is the same as dexterity it can become interesting to pick it due to possible craft skills.

id rather increase craft skill instead of beauty or agility. maybe beauty since a first impression is lasting, but we also have charms to help with that.

we also have to find a lunar tribe that can teach us, in a manner that they would accept us. more specificaly, we are lacking tatoos that would protect us from the wyld (and a bit more if we find a god crafter) and trainning with the lunar exaltation. they can even initiate us in the spellcrafting business.

>there are better means to defend "uselves". exalted have perfect defense charms
Doesn't the lunar perfect require high agility? Even assuming it works like in canon exalted?

Also, not to be a dick, but people are always 'oh, we'll work through everything without violence' right up until a bad guy attacks, at which point most suggestions turn into 'oh no a baddie kill it kill iiiiiit.'

>>328295
If you're going to plan, plan big. It'll give us something to aim for.

Speaking of "big", how much would it take to give birth to a new titan?

>>328298
Agility is certainly very handy, but I'm against spending Titan's Will on it because it's much harder to get than training time, and we can do so much more with it.

For the same reason, we shouldn't use it to power up Gevin. I'm all for helping him, but there are many other ways we can do that besides giving up a part of ourself.

In a way, it comes down to whether you think eating a soul is something objectionable or not. If it is, then Titan's Will is a difficult resource to get, and we should use it carefully. The less important it is, the less we have to worry.

>>328301
harder to get in an ethical manor, we could just go up to a random ghost, stuff them into our brain-ventory and have wordblood eat him. BAM at least 3 points of titans will and who knows what else from memories.

>>328301
A new Titan would take a lot of building up, and a lot of Titan's Will.

>>328302
Most ghosts will only give you 2 measures, maybe even just 1 for the weakest ones.

>>328303
ah, yes, i was taking the Efficiency of Consumption bonus into account when i said three.

>>328302
Yes, that's what I meant. The more we care about who we eat, the harder it is to get Titan's Will. Inconvenient, yes, but if you compromise your principles to gain power, there's really no point to having it, is there?

>>328303
I figured it wouldn't be easy. It's something to keep in mind for the future, in case we want to make a big change to the nature of the universe.

So how much would we need for those other ideas? It'll be harder to decide if we don't know that.

Speaking of which, it looks like we're good for combat and stealth, but we've got nothing to help social interaction.

i have read some more on the matter of primordials, and i found a lot of stuff.

a primordial had/have many souls. he is in fact at least 3 circles of several demons, the innermost being the more relevant to what he is. they can indeed spawn souls to serve them based on their will alone and each of them is replaceable, except for a fetish soul that represents the primordial itself, but even then, killing the fetish soul would change the primordial forever instead of killing him. every and each part of it can be summoned, but these demons are really difficult to even consider talking to. they are not only "dead" but cursed, so there is not much they can do. gaia wasnt destroyed or defeated, she simply decided to explore the wyld with too many souls.

by the by. wordblood matches even more the destroyed fetish soul of the ebon dragon, shadow dragon or w/e.

in turn this means epic battles ahead. the deathknight is a scourge and not exactly battle fit. furthermore, of all dead primordials, ebon dragon is the most reasonable. i actualy have reasons to trust wordblood and to prevent his capture.

>>328312
eventually the principle will come out clear. maybe we will even get a exaltation to experiment upon, after all, deathlands and a death manse do means a abyssal is around.

as for social interaction, we have high intuition and we arent ugly. id say all we need is actual etiquette. becoming pretty in a lad that do slave trade isnt exactly ideal.

>>328313
I know you're trying to help, but we're better off without the out-of-character infodumps. It'll be more fun for Saulanna to figure things out in-character.

>>328317
That and it says in the first post of this thread that this isn't quite Exalted, so a not insubstantial portion of what 5copper keeps quoting at us is probably incorrect. :/

>>328319
Isn't quite canon Exalted, rather. >_>

>>/quest/201397
I still prefer choosing a broadly useful power word instead of one that's only useful in specific circumstances. (On the other hand, uses of 'No' could probably get pretty abstract with increasing power.)

That said, if Saulanna can't resist his compelling voice, well... you guys want to solve our problems with talking, right?

>>328613
if we get enough words, could we make a Power Phrase? like 'burning down the house' causes a building to be instantly incinerated.

>>328614
Wouldn't "Burn" or "Fire" work just as well?

>>328615
i said instant, those would light it up but it will still take a while.

>>328616
Why would using more words make it faster?

>>328617
by being specific. everyone knows that the more unambiguous your target is the better things work.

It's kind of hard to decide what Power Word to get if we don't know how which ones are plausible and how much they cost.

We should take Power Word: Arousal. Or Naked.

>>328620
i agree with this.

we need to think aterally. id say power word love could get us a ally much faster that power word arousal could get us raped.

So, guys? um...

Power Word: Cocks

It seems like a versatile and useful word to know.

>>328634
Indeed, we could summon a swarm of angry chickens to attack them. Or something.

>>328627
Love could still result in rape. It's an empowering, unpredictable emotion, no good for controlling others or oneself. For controlling people, it's better to either be more subtle, or be more direct with a Power Word like "Obey" or "Submit".

For a mental defense, we could go with Power Word: "Silence", which would also help with stealth.

How about two dots in efficiency of consumption? Sure, we don't get any pornography related magic right now, but future souls should yield more Titan's will for more pornography related magic.

>>328645
not sure we can PUT two into that. looks like a single tier upgrade.

>>328645
That would be a good choice if we're planning to do more soul-eating. But how can we justify something we would find horrifying if done to us?

>>328647
Easy: We did it before they could do it to us.

>>328634
why not just say orgy or some shit like it?

>>328647
exalted is a strange world. we can justify it because others eat soul as well. above anything else, the world is a mess and we have the power to set it right.

>>328638
we would still need to say it to him, thus revealing our position.

>>328645
Well, let's not go crazy trying for MAXIMUM efficiency, even assuming there's multiple levels.

In my opinion, the name of the game is "good enough." It's never going to be perfect. And, in the meantime, imagine how dumb we'll feel if we put both TW into efficiency and then die before we eat another dude.

Besides. This is a quest, not a corporate financing final exam. Let's try and have SOME fun.

>>328650
its a safe bet to put one point on it. we should do that before discovering that the undead vampire abyssal deathlord wanna be has ghosts escorting him instead of unedible undead.

>>328649
>exalted is a strange world. we can justify it because others eat soul as well. above anything else, the world is a mess and we have the power to set it right.
If there are so many powerful people in it, why is it so messed up? When a lot of people each strive for a different "greater good", and each one makes sacrifices to pursue their own goals, nobody gets what they want and everyone is left with the consequences. To save everyone, we have to hold ourselves to our own standards.

>we would still need to say it to him, thus revealing our position.
Yeah, Silence won't help us sneak away from our immediate problem; being quiet when you're on fire is a wasted effort. But in the long term, it could be very helpful.

Another option: bribe the possible-vampire with a Word of Power for himself, either as payment for leaving us be, or as a demonstration that cooperating with us would be far more beneficial than, say, drinking our blood and making us a zombie slave.

So there I was just thinking I had completely run out of good type-mashup character ideas that I hadn't seen done previously.

Then BAM.

Vampire magician.

>>328652
> When a lot of people each strive for a different "greater good"
uh, no. there is no greater good. it ended in the first age wich we definitively arent anymore.

in the first age there was fate ninjas, solars and dragonborn working together. everything you needed or wanted was supplied with magic or any magical device equivalent. a example would be dinosaurs that piss heroin, monster mash with gengineered humans/animals, orgies involving enought people to exaust the exalted as a form of adoration and magical stone monoliths set at the very edge of existance, keeping pure chaos from pouring in creation.

then the terrestrial exalted decided they wanted to run the show, beginning the second age. they did not knew how. long story made short, if you are alive by the end of the second age you are very lucky. and the magical wonders that actualy kept the world in one piece were slowly breaking, at least a quarter of creation fell to the chaos, adding to the already huge pieces of deathlands created by the death of the primordials.

>bribe the possible-vampire
thats a huge no. he must not know we have a power word. its like telling him we have a cooperative entity that can reshape existance when requested. you think its bad that we want to eat the souls that deserve it? he will enslave souls to reshape existance at his will.

also its likely he is a death knight. this is not "terribad", but i belive he is a diplomat type and thus not able to fight so effectively. however if he is a experienced abyssal he can wipe the floor with us, power words or not. he may be the most elaborate snack i am yet to find. we should not be able to "eat" him because he has high soul power.

and i fear he may pull a magnifcient bastard on us and the pairings would begin.

>>328654
when i saw him i immediately thought that he would pull a "what is a exalt, but a miserable pile of motes?"

>>328654
It is a good concept!

>>328656
You don't have to tell me about Exalted. I know.

For the sake of asking, how much would the various things we've been suggesting cost?

Also, congratulations on reaching one thousand posts. I think that makes it the largest TGchan topic ever.

Holy crap the quest thread has 1000 posts!

I think it's about time we made a new one or split this one or something.

>>328673
One of the Golem Quest threads is bigger.

>>328675

Only because I've gone and left so much time for people to talk, it's not so great updatewise.

I know where this first chapter will end.

i just noticed that saulanna has her chaste mark showing and its different that the current moon. am i forgetting something here?

also, why is everyone telling her to pretend she is a "common" raccoon? she failed acting in front of a bunch of dumb thugs, she will succeed against a enlightened ghost?

>>328681
>chaste mark
:3

Jukashi, will you show us some official colours for Kaan?

I love him already because he seems like a suave bastard of a villain.

You rule.

>>328687
ohu.jpg

>>328693
he is a ghost. those are his colors.

>>328699
;-; Oh right. Dammit.

>>328699
Actually wait, are you sure he's a ghost?

He has colour on him which none of the ghosts so far have. I mean, Saulanna is black and white with occasional colour so who is to say that Kaan doesn't have a body?

>>328701
Probably not. Our senses told us he was alive. When we met Gevin, there were clear signs he wasn't alive - he wasn't breathing and his body was cold to the touch.

>>328699
>>328701

Ghosts are drawn in gray lines.

He is obviously an Abyssal.

...or am I missing something?

>>328708
not a ghost, thus, must be a abyssal.

well, it seems only the BG will/would be colored. a bit counter intuitive but im ok with it.

>>328711
>>328708

Based on this image:
>>/quest/194724
Kaan is definitely an exalted and this figure (derp)

Well. I assume he owns this graveyard of a land. Is that manse his? I know I keep hearing the manse belongs to some dragon-whats-his-face but Wordblood says that she preferred her draconic form as do many supernatural creatures. She and Kaan/manse owner could easily shift into a human form.

>>/quest/199347

The Dragon's Shadow, that was his name.
>"He prizes his own interests and freedom above all else. He is the Shadow of All Things."
>He can be quite charming though.

Charming you say? Like how suave/charming Kaan is being now?

Sorry for the rather large post but I want to get some things straight before I sleep.
And; name-fagging.

>>328708
He does have a black Caste Mark...

...but he also introduced himself by name.

>>328717
It's probably his stage name. He is a magician, after all. I can't think of any magician who uses their real name.

...or maybe abyssal names aren't that big of a deal in this version of Exalted. Or he could be an infernal. Or maybe the Yozis and the Neverborn teamed up to corrupt solar essences instead of making two different kinds. Or maybe he's just a Solar who likes skulls a lot. Or something else entirely!

Probably a stage name, though.

>>328714
of all the big primordials ebon dragon is the only one that literally does not leave the dragon form.

also the manse is in his homenage, thus its possible the undead gentlemen carries the ownership and the heartstone. since its safe to say he is indeed a abyssal that works for the ebon dragon, he is a scourge, master of deception and lies.

>>328722
its possible that is the name his neverborn master gaved him. altho im votin for lies.

peregin kaan is like Pilgrim khan, literally wanderer ruler. yus, google dictionary can get weird results sometimes.

and something i didnt noticed, as a abyssal this puts the quest after the time of tumult.

>and something i didnt noticed, as a abyssal this puts the quest after the time of tumult.
The Solars came back before Gevin was born. He said as much. Also that there's a second sun in the sky. (Ligier or equivalent, I guess) Also, Autochthon showed up. Dunno how that went down. Not too important right now.

>>/quest/197433

In the sense that this fits into canon exalted at all, centuries may have passed since the Scarlet Empress disappeared. I'd guess 150 years, but that's just a stab in the dark.

From the sound of things, Dragon's Shadow took over the entire Underworld. There may no longer be a difference between Abyssals and Infernals. They appear to have the same boss, now.

He's probably also taken over huge chunks of Creation, but probably not all of it, since the Gods still exist, and Luna didn't sound very... besieged.

>Also that there's a second sun in the sky
wow i missed that detail.

>Also, Autochthon showed up. Dunno how that went down.
want info dump? im sure its irrelevant unless we go to the elemental poles or to the south.

>Luna didn't sound very... besieged
haha. damm. i need to tell you one thing.

luna's palace has a door to the underwold behind her trhone room. on it, a huge dining room is set for her and the ebon dragon, supposely named dragon's shadow now.

>>/quest/201542
>>/quest/202375
Wait, does this mean Kaan is Saulanna's Solar Bond?

>>328771
no, the fact she got a social attack from a charm does not means she is his lunar mate.

the fact she may remember him is. im hoping she is actualy remembering him due to the gangster ghost's memory.

>>328802
like i said, could be just a past life's memory. last person with our exaltation could of just met him once. don't need a bond to remember things like that.

>>328771
On second thought I suppose there's a slight chance it's memories from before we got tabula rassa'd (since apparently we were held at his house and escaped). Not confident in this though, mainly since the implication of that whole process was that no pre-exaltation character traits survived.

>>328730
I don't actually know the setting enough to get what you're saying here, but it'd be pretty hilarious if we eventually screwed up and Luna found out about Wordblood, and she was just like, "huh. that's neat."

Also, not really strategy related, but... the fact that we're "voices of the past" is kind of interesting, given that all this happens a measurable amount of time since the creation of the known universe. Wonder if we'll ever find out more about that.

>>328802
>>328803
It's more the "moon power won't help, something inside her wants to obey" part. Even if he spiked his request you'd think we could channel some MP into resisting, unless he had a hook on our moon powers themselves.

>>328823
simple, we don't know HOW to channel MP into resisting.

>>328823
this isnt exactly true. moon power and social attacks interact differently, most likely he can easily control other weak willed beings.

>>328828
if i remember correctly in exalted you spend willpower or something like it. it seems we have none.

>>328831
Fair enough. To be honest I probably don't know enough about Exalted to make these kinds of arguments in the first place. >_>

"Social" effects in Lunar Quest bear only miniscule relation to how they're done in Exalted.

The use of both Willpower and Virtues has been subsumed into a character's Emotional state, and their broader outlook and goals. "Social combat" is basically about comparing your Dickery/Inspiration/Beauty to the other person's Acuity/Intuition/Beauty, but you increase your chances and decrease their by layering on good arguments, appeals to their key emotions, being seductive/intimidating, bargaining, etc. And magic, if you have it.

>>328853

All depending on the individual in question, of course.

>>328853

Also competencies.

I have to remember not to post about this sort of thing when I'm tired.