Oh so you weren't just a one shot quest maker. I didn't recognize the ID code.

>>312941

But of course. Why would I spend hours dabbling around here if I will not spend WEEKS? :D

>>312943
Well it's good to have you, even if you are a bit eccentric. Nothing wrong with that.

Are you planning on continuing Sanya Quest next or starting a new project? Also is your coloring sloppy on purpose as a style or are you lazy?

>>312944

Sanya Quest will continue at an indefinite date. It must be obvious, as the thread has "Part One" written all over it.

I hate coloring.

The bucket tool is your friend, by the way.

>>312948

Ugly bucket tool leaves pixie dusts (read: WHITE PIXELS) along the way. Still needs a lot of cleanup afterwards.

What program are you using? My bucket tool works just fine.

Here's a tip: Draw the outline in a layer, then make a new layer under that one. Then color with a large brush. Thick outlines help.

Also, vyt is only a quarter as eccentric as I am, so welcome!

>>312959

I use Photoshop and GIMP. For Sanya Quest, I use the latter. Not to mention I use a tablet to draw in.

I do know what you want me to do, but it's either:
1. The pictures now look blocky because I used the cheaper method of doing my drawings: with a pencil tool;
2. I now require a lot of layers to carefully color the pictures in, always giving me more than 50% of the possibility of screwing something up and repeating the whole image once more;
3. A completely-filled picture just looks sucky.

What you've mentioned is actually the best way of filling an outline with color, but I do not want to waste precious time (which I usually do when I follow that method).

>>312975
The terrible coloring looks like a style. Just claim it's intentional and no one will be the wiser.

>>312975
>GIMP
That's your problem. GIMP somehow induces artifacting prior to fills. I don't even know how that was done.

I use Photoshop and Painter, but my whole quest is drawn and colored in Photoshop. I don't color with a big brush, though. I set a separate layer for colors and then bucket fill them, using a brush to color in whatever that misses. I mean, your colors are on a separate layer right now anyway.

If you are getting a little white line, just hit the bucket tool again in the same space and/or change the tolerance. Multiple clicks will fill in more and more area. Also, make sure the "all layers" box is ticked.

I guarantee it can't possibly take more time than manually coloring everything.

>>312976

As long as I'd WANT to admit it's a style, I will have to be honest and say coloring really isn't my forte.

Anonymous 2009/09/25(Fri)21:30 No. 3301 ID: 43d730
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My theory, anyway.

A lot of people have been asking me the same sort of questions about Sanya Quest lately. I'm going to put them in one reply so I won't have to be questioned again.

Q: Why does Sanya's nose change over time?
A: Laziness.

Q: Why do you keep forgetting her tail?
A: Laziness.

Q: Where are their weapons?! Why aren't you drawing them everytime?!
A: Laziness.

Squeegy 2009/09/25(Fri)21:47 No. 3304 ID: 64d98f
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nice quest

>>313101
This is less of a theory and more of a scientific law. Huge dense objects produce gravity, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, and Vyt is a troll.

>>313133

Your mom's a scientific law.

>>313133
Ooh, ooh, let me try.

Your mom's entropy must always increase.

Your mom's a huge, dense object that produces gravity.

Your mom produces an equal but opposite reaction.

>>313157
90% of everything is your mom.
No matter what it is, somewhere on the internet is porn of your mom.
No matter what it is, somewhere on the internet is porn of your mom as a man.
Every time you mention it, someone will reinstall your mom.

Nahkh!7BHo7QtR6I 2009/09/29(Tue)01:54 No. 3463 ID: 18212a
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>>313158

vytalibus 2009/09/29(Tue)05:20 No. 3465 ID: 5696d4
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>>313133
>>313157
>>313158
>>313263

>Sanasha is unamused.

Anonymous 2009/10/01(Thu)20:24 No. 3969 ID: 1e1edf
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>>313263

Sorry for bumping this little thread of mine, but I'd just like to ask the people who do read my quests for any general comments or suggestions. I am always looking forward to improving my way of running quests, and thus am always welcome to any critique.

tl;dr, GUYS I'M HAPPY FOR YOU I'M GOING TO LET YOU FINISH BUT-

I LIKE YOUR QUESTS YO

Uh, but yeah, my one overbearing complaint at the moment is that I seem to be responsible for like a third of the suggestions.

Then again that's not really your fault.

SO IN OTHER WORDS I AM USELESS

What the fuck is leather mail? Do you even know what mail is? (I'll give you a hint, it isn't a synonym for 'armor') >:C

>>314149
Well, that would be armor made of lots of little rings of hardened leather. obviously.
...honestly, it makes more sense than scale mail made of actual lizard skin.

>>314151
Wouldn't that just be lamellar?

Test Pattern 2009/10/19(Mon)23:33 No. 4879 ID: 7eda8b
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>"I know it's bad for you to know that I'm a prostitute"

Suggestion 2010/01/09(Sat)21:04 No. 8857 ID: 34470e
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<Goldude> Sanya kinda looks like Goshen in this pic: http://www3.tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/src/12630981257.png
<vyt> Goldude: Hush you
<vyt> :3

>>318657
Sanya x Goshen. It's awwwwrite.

In before Goshen is her father

>>318659
>>318661
Nah... Goshen prefers the dustbacks.

vytalibus 2010/01/10(Sun)17:34 No. 8910 ID: 5696d4
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Because I want to show what Luceana looked like.

>>318710
Nice.

>>318710
What the hell is with that crotch plate?

>>318718
That's not a crotch plate.

>>318719
Rug don't match the drapes?

>>318719
Sure it's a crotch plate. If it was pubes, they wouldn't be casting a hard drop-shadow.

>>318721
>>318718
It's a sharpened metal pseudopenis.
Why did you think there were so many jokes about tonberries + knives = rape?

>Sure it's a crotch plate.
...then what's holding it on?

>>318737
Smoke, mirrors and curly pubes.

>>318737
Special crotchplate glue. Or maybe it has a bulb in the back for attachment... those do exist you know.

>>318710
With Armour like that no wonder she's dead.

vytalibus 2010/01/12(Tue)17:27 No. 8990 ID: 5696d4
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This is now my art dump, or something.

Anyway, I'd really want some opinion on how I'm doing with my own quest. I'm just curious.

The catboy seems a bit strange and out of nowhere, but you're doing pretty fine with it. Other than that, good job.

>>318877
i see elements of the catboy since when we "entered" sanya, but i do agree with the pick of species. catbois are weird when not scrhoedingian.

People are really confused about how Mind Crush works, so I'll try to explain it in my best way that would not spoil anyone about the things to come.

If you didn't figure out, Mind Crush is basically a roll-for-luck ability. That means the effects differ everytime, and it usually depends on the roll.

Now, I don't want to go into the technicality of this stuff, but the effects can range from an instant kill to a complete backfire. This also goes for the other four abilities I posted at the start of Sanya Quest, as their effects also differ depending on the roll.

I set these abilities up so that people can just "play with chance" for something that might be blocking their way. That the named characters are only mildly hurt at best is purely coincidental.

(However, I'd like to be frank. I don't like my quest to end just because someone "fucked it up" using this ability. Keep in mind the seemingly random effect of the abilities and be reasonable in your choices.)

>>319171
"Murdelp, get off of me. You're reminding me of my caravan."

vytalibus 2010/01/26(Tue)20:45 No. 9729 ID: f35d0a
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So I was riddled with questions about how certain things work recently. I think I've made my quest plotline too confusing with all those plotholes in place.

If you guys have questions about my quest, you can either post here or in the ItQ thread. Save yourselves and me the trouble of forgetting and/or confusing everything in the quest. I'm not very proficient at trying to tie things yet.

But I'll try my best.

Picture unrelated.

>>319529
Vyt, it's not much of a mystery when there's a major character that's been named but not seen called "T. Lord" and you can see his big ol' Tonberry tail.

>>319559
Because he still might be The Doctor?

>>319559

Suit yourself. I'm not saying anything about this character yet. :3

vytalibus 2010/01/30(Sat)21:12 No. 9976 ID: f35d0a
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Since we have Sanya's dress-up, why not add one for Amina as well? This will coincide with the current part until the dress-up games are over.

Otherwise, be happy.

Suggestion 2010/01/31(Sun)01:53 No. 10002 ID: 34470e
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>>319776
Damn. Looks like Amina has also Dai'd. We're no good at this.

GREEN!!IzZTIxBQH1 2010/01/31(Sun)02:11 No. 10004 ID: 9e9b47
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>>319776

A fresh and inventive new costume!

>>319776
I want to make a gimp suit but I lack familiarity with the concept. Closest I managed to get was Sul's default outfit.

Another idea I had was a Sneaking Suit.

Anonymous 2010/01/31(Sun)02:46 No. 10008 ID: 632862
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>>319776
OK I MADE SOMETHING

Test Pattern 2010/01/31(Sun)03:46 No. 10009 ID: cfad4e
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Stop dressing like a whore.

Test Pattern 2010/01/31(Sun)03:46 No. 10010 ID: cfad4e
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Alternately, start dressing like some kind of psycho ninja whore.

Test Pattern 2010/01/31(Sun)04:02 No. 10011 ID: cfad4e
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oh hi i was just admiring the shape of your skull

vytalibus 2010/02/01(Mon)22:15 No. 10082 ID: f35d0a
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Remember this? I do.

Anyway, The "HO-" thing there? Please disregard that. I am admitting that I was not thinking clearly back when I was listing this; that is one of the rejected ideas I had for the five stones I've established. It should be KN-, which should've hinted you to "KNOWLEDGE".

Again, I'm sorry.

>>319882
Either that, or the person who wrote the list in game is a REALLY BAD SPELLER.

>>319882
"HO-" as in HONOR?

>>319888
or hope.

The stone of Hoes?

>>319890
Best stone ever.

WE are the stone of hoes. Also, if there's a stone of knowledge and a stone of wisdom, the inversion of the stone of knowledge may be giving whoever's holding it false information about the world, leading to well-intentioned extremist territory or somewhere similar.

I'm starting to see some people... "raging" about my quest.

I must be popular now.

We're going to rage all over your quest :3

>>319921

Good luck.

Thanks, it's a tough job *nods*

It'll be the most rage-ist rage that ever raged rage town. (not really)
On a related note, I wish you would have let us see Sanya punch the crap out of that guy. I only condone violence when it's hilarious.

>>320089
They have telekinesis as a racial power?

...Fuck yes.

Some questions about Nocitomes from the IRC...

"That cross on their faces. They somehow look different in the quest."
It's just a placeholder.

"What is the reproductive organ? Is it a cloaca?"
Yes.

"Do they masturbate by telekinesis? Do they propel themselves onto each other with telekinesis?"
... If they want to. 8I

>>320093

Man, the life you'd have after being born with that face...

>>320089
I gotta know, is there a trollface one?

>>320100
If ever a trollface Nocitome was born, it would be put to death immediately.

Anonymous 2010/02/06(Sat)23:47 No. 10320 ID: 3066e7
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My Nocitosona has a WHITE WHALE face.

>>320093

D:

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/02/16(Tue)22:09 No. 10764 ID: a85626
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I...I think I know what happened to Sanya's father.

>>320564
He turned into the monster from Cloverfield?

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/02/16(Tue)22:25 No. 10766 ID: a85626
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>>320565

...no not that monster. Sin.

vytalibus 2010/02/19(Fri)12:51 No. 10909 ID: f35d0a
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I apologize in advance for this post. I feel the need to vent out what I've been bottling up for weeks.

Recently, I've been receiving backhanded comments about my quest. While they are usually ignored due to their lack of evidence and/or the person's sole intention of "doin it 4 the lulz", they do get on my nerves sometimes, especially when I am in one of my worst moods.

I don't feel the need to confront these people I'm mentioning, though. I don't think they're the ones I'm supposed to be focusing on. I want to improve on my art skills, especially the ones that make my quests running. No, comments like "your quest isn't interesting enough" do not help that cause, because they are subjective to the person's standards (or fetishes, whichever you prefer).

Still, I'd really like to hear from you how I am going with my quest. Any constructive criticism would be appreciated as long as their intentions are to help me know either my weak points or my strengths and improve on them.

Thanks in advance.

(Image attached is a preview of a frame in an animation I am working on.)

Yeah, okay, this may be really fucking obvious in my posts but anytime the prophecy comes up I just want to strung that character by the balls, particularly Gazzeno when he gets serious which is all he talks about then. I know this might not be helpful for the quest and all seeing as its an important bit of the story all and cemented like a muthafucker in SQ but the point just may help out in some way. Also possibly grating is the lack of an emotional rainbow going on. Just saying there's a bit not much beside perrvy happiness, stoic dutiful seriousness and BAAWWW.
Just not enough varying emotions going on.

The slooooowwww taaaaaaalllking kaaaaayyyyyy osssssss dark gooooooods is really annoying. I tend to just skip over it.

When everything seriouses the fuck up, it feels pretty railroady. Like, there's only one option and we can't mind crush them instead.

>>320709
My only issue is your sometimes oversized foreheads thing.

The prophecy ticks me off, but I guess that's the point isn't it?

>>320712

Duly noted. Whenever I update, I always get occupied with advancing the plot that I keep forgetting to spice things up by adding emotion to things.

On the topic of the prophecy, I will agree that it's getting annoying whenever it's brought up. It's just that it's the only thing gluing the events altogether. I am at a loss on how I can fix this, though. Any ideas?

>>320715

I've also already started on making Gezzono talk more normally. Don't worry.

The second part is also the case with me trying to advance the plot too much. I'll revise my plan for the next parts and see if I can do anything about this. Let's be hopeful I can come up with something.

>>320729

Haha, yes. The foreheads. I still haven't gotten a good grasp of figure drawing and anatomy. Unfortunately, the head is one of the things I can't draw well consistently. For example, sometimes Sanya's head would shrink up.

I am trying my best to practice drawing so I can be consistent and good at drawing. This is something that takes time, so I can't guarantee you that I'll be able to fix that problem before Sanya Quest ends. Still, I'll see what I can do.

>>320734

Same with my comment on Test. It's due to my hasty attitude. Should I add parts that do not concern the prophecy for a change? Maybe a side mission that the party can do. I'll look at my own options, but I'll appreciate it if you can give me ideas as well.

-------------------

Thanks for the comments, guys.

O_O 2010/02/20(Sat)17:53 No. 10977 ID: 2134ed
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So I noticed something...

O_O 2010/02/20(Sat)17:55 No. 10979 ID: 2134ed
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The same picture, minus the shading.

O_O 2010/02/20(Sat)17:56 No. 10981 ID: 2134ed
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I think I overdid it a little.

(Animated)

Your idea for side quests in place of the prophecy makes sense. Though it seems like we're almost endgame and dragging it out seems hazardous. Perhaps, as it is appearing, the prophecy is going to be less of a driving point and more of "FUCK UP DAD" and it looks like the person most concerned with the prophecy, Gazzeno, might have just gotten that message.

I hope anyway. Lord knows he hasn't gotten a lot of the messages we've been trying to send now that didn't deal with his girl. Fucking stubborn is what he is.

>>320777
>>320779
>>320781
Still not following you here.

They both have gigantic sideways-pointed cat ears.

...say, Amina's hair has certainly grown out since she was first introduced.

>>320784

I do see where you're going with this. Yeah, if something is obviously coming close to the end, it's almost pointless to drag it out. That's why I'm going for the "let's know the partymates out more" trick: events that will show the personalities and attitudes of everyone. It's kind of important to really know each other out, I'd say.

>>320801
you mean inside and out... right? :3 c

>>320801
Reminds me of a Bioware RPG where you'd go around and talk to the party members between missions.

>>320828
Every. Fucking. Team member.

Every. Fucking. Mission.

>>320836
Can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some calibrations.

Sorry for being away for two days straight. Second day's my birthday, and my wish was to get a life for that day.

Moving on, I'd like to remind people that Sanya Quest will continue later on. Also, as we are drawing to its climax, I'll probably have to tell you that any drastic action might affect the ending of this quest. Yes, there are multiple endings to this quest, and people will have to coordinate with the characters in order to achieve the ending they want.

That is all.

That is great news! Also, welcome back.

Happy belated birthday. Did you save me a slice of cake?

I'm guessing I lost a lot of readers (read: three or less) because of me not announcing this, so here I go:

I will be on a short hiatus for this week. It seems that school is starting to catch up on me, giving me projects that consume most of my free time. For this, I will have to sacrifice my questing time just to make it up.

I'll be back by March Break, which is next week. I'll have a lot of free time there, so until then, see you all.

(I can still opt to answer questions and clarify things about my quest, however. Compared to questing, those only take a few minutes.)

Awh.

See you in march.

FUCKING BACK

UPDATES BY TOMORROW

PEACE OUT, Y'ALL

>>322283
*rejoices*

vytalibus 2010/03/14(Sun)03:01 No. 12554 ID: f35d0a
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...

>>322354
.....................wha-*HEAD-EXPLOSION!!!!*

What, you noticed now that Gazenne is missing her tail?

>>322354
Gazenne has a dickbutt.

>>322354
O_o wut.

>>322354

ALL IS LOST GAZZENE YOU FAILED TO ACQUIRE HIS PANTS

Airi 2010/03/15(Mon)17:27 No. 12698 ID: 19ecf1
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>>322354
steps upon seeing
0_0
-_-
>_<
HEAD EXPLOSION

that is all.

I feel like I shouldn't riddle you guys with more reasons why I've not been updating much lately. It's kind of my fault for getting all these stuff on me recently.

When I return (hopefully well enough to be able to update again), please expect that I will be more lenient towards your requests. I'll be needing every help I can get to start drawing again.

'sfine, life always > quests

>>323086

As much as I'd love continuing Sanya Quest, several factors have contributed to me questioning myself on whether I should continue this or not. I'm not going to list them here, as what I need more is an immediate response from whoever here cares.

Should I continue Sanya Quest or not?

I'll see to your comments and decide this week. If I make a new quest, consider Sanya Quest graved.

>>325532
Continue it, but crank down the SRS factor a bit. Right now the quest takes itself WAY too seriously.

>>325533
Gonna agree with fredrick, and try to increase the influx of revelations/information. But yes, continue.

I like Sanya Quest. I check it pretty much every time it updates if I'm around.

Here's a bit of stone-cold truth Vyt, straight from me to you.

A quest is supposed to be fun for you. That's why an author runs a quest. They have an idea, they want to tell a story with some friends chipping in and saying "this could happen, do this." and it works. You tell the story and draw so many pictures and put alot of time and love into it, and the readers appreciate it and enjoy it. But you shouldn't forget that a quest should be enjoyable for yourself too. The READERS should remember to make their suggestions something that would be enjoyable for you. That's what this is all about in a nutshell. Whether you continue Sanya Quest is up to you, not us. Do you like it? I do. I'd be sad to see it go. So you think about it.

I've been telling you to tone down the srs for months. (By which I mean I told you once and then was disappoint when you didn't)

Though, I mean it in the nicest way possible when I say I'm not sure if it's salvageable at this point.

I'll have to be honest here: I do not know what should I do to tone the seriousness down. Are the characters too emotional about stuff? Are the situations too grim? I keep asking myself this, and several other questions, everytime I update, but I seem to keep failing at trying to find a resolve to this. It only leaves the readers uninterested and discontented, and as a result, also leaves me uninspired to continue.

I will agree with Test. The quest has been running for fourteen chapters. Probably the only fun chapter I made was by the time when the Wisdom Stone took direct control over Sanya (lots of incestbold, was sure fun), but I kind of missed how I replicated that one (I even got berated for that chapter being irrelevant, so I got confused).

But enough babbling. I do need a very good reason why I should continue with it. Being met with responses like "it's kind of too late for that now" only gives me more resolve to give up.

You could do something drastic, of course.
Major cataclysm that flings the party apart, forced change of scenery, change that status quo.
For srs tone, yeah you do need to balance that out with something. Maybe not wacky sidekicks, but maybe witty banter, or the occasional chance for the characters to relax?

I don't know if I'm being helpful, but I hope you keep at it, Vyt.

Okay, fuck waiting for a week to decide. Just realized I can't really think while having doubts, so I'm going to decide now.

Goodbye, Sanya. It's been nice knowing you.

Will be working on a new quest. Maybe a light one, so it wouldn't seem so stupid.

>>325548
Any closure? Do we get a rocks fall?

>>325548
Does this mean she's a zombie now?

Dirtbag 2010/05/17(Mon)19:20 No. 15752 ID: e3f578
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I hope if he does anything Gezzeno ends up getting serious MILF ass from saving that mother tonberry. See, this quest is like K-On, alright but makes good porn.

Shit is the beesnees. Rest in peace, SQ, you did good kid. Ya did good.

don't just say it's exploded but put it on hold for a year or so. right now it's nothing but serious quests so everyone is tired of being serious all the time. when zany quests make a comeback then it will be fine.

Not enough badass quest man. That's what I've been saying.

Man, you shouldn't worry what people over on /tg/-prime are saying, even if it's all just us under even more anonymity. If you want to do it, just put it on hold for a bit and pick it up later. Take the (primarily constructive) criticism in stride and come back better than ever.

Oh, please do not misunderstand. I did not stop SQ because people hated it. In fact, I felt underaccomplished running it, and aspiration was running low every chapter.

Closure? I'll see how I should present that later on.

>>325562

*tries whispering subliminally* Northern Sergal...

>>325564
You mean her dad?

>>325565
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH BURN!!!

Well, if you're looking for inspiration for a new quest, may I suggest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjLuyBc-6c

vytalibus 2010/05/22(Sat)13:50 No. 16044 ID: f35d0a
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I got bored.

http://tgchan.org/wiki/Tinker_Quest

Created a new wiki page for Tinker Quest. Some information will be posted here, but only from established questions and answers. Still, feel free to check it out.

vytalibus 2010/06/05(Sat)10:43 No. 16924 ID: f35d0a
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Gezzono. Body details are removed for spoilers.

Are spoilers really an issue if the quest isn't being run anymore?

>>326740
Well, think about it.

Why would I still put a spoiler warning on a quest that's not currently running?

Because YOU'RE A NUT
YOU'RE CRAZY IN THE COCONUT

>>326741
OH LORD!
HIS PENIS/CLOACA HAS INTER-DIMENSIONAL PROPERTIES!

>>326742
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

so... ratata quest 2?

>>326755
It's not really a Rattata, nor am I starting another quest in a Pokemon universe. It's more on my inability to draw real rats.

Or ratfolks, for that matter.

>>326742
>>326750

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8BWBn26bX0
Is it weird that I recognized this?

>>326742
>>326750
I'M 'UNNA KILL YOU

>>326742
>>326750
>>326789
That boy needs therapy.

>>326787
Thanks, first time I've actually seen the video that went along with this!

>>326724
It's weird to see Gezzono being shy or bashful. Still, I dig.

Rat Quest Anonymous 2010/06/07(Mon)15:42 No. 17048 ID: 1a99f0
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K guys I made a thread where we can talk about the rat girl with public masturbation issues

technically, that's http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/312939.html

not that i'm going to stop public masturbation or anything

Diana Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/06/07(Mon)20:48 No. 17074 ID: c4c313
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Because she really could use the help.

>>/quest/190196
>>/quest/190207

I admit I was hoping for Diana to run into a little more trouble than most people here. Not that she should get locked away or tortured, but seeing some of the full spectrum of life, if you know what I mean. It's okay if we always steer her in the right path, but come on this is tgchan. It's like our duty to mess with the character's lives.

Off the record, I would advise her to avoid such dangerous public activity by masturbating furiously in privacy until she's used to it. But that is provided I was, in fact, giving her good advice. I could stop messing with her as much if the quest author doesn't like though. I really am only trying to help their efforts!

>>326875
usually this goes to psychology assignment.

then when results show, she is usually moved to another school to prevent furter niggur comments.

well, she could take pictures of him. its the official creepy japanese way of doing it.

>>326875
well, it's not like any of us want her to get all boring, but if you play with your toys too much they can break. We need to at least keep her out of trouble enough to keep her out of serious trouble. Like, if she gets expelled, it'll be pretty hard for her to see Jonah.

Are you blind or what.

>>326848
>>312939

>>326882

Good as blind. I did check for anything, but didn't see it. -_-

>>326769

You have an incredability to draw ratfolk. <3 Dem teef

>>/quest/190281

>> a relatively fulfilling relationship on each side,

Mine has two relatively uh, fulfilling relationships on each side. Incest is wincest, as they say.

I thought you'd point it out, but the reason my diagram sucks is because I deliberately picked "Boring" as one of the points of the triangle. I could have picked the triad of "Love, Hope and Dreams" or something new-age faggy like that. I was trying to demonstrate that when you pick three points that can be related to each other, it looks like you're covering the full spectrum when actually you're only covering your narrow, biased slice of it. It's like making a color pyramid out of red, orange and red-orange. I don't like narrow restricted views of sexuality, whether they do give you the illusion of being the One True Path to lead you to the Only Good Relationship and are colored green, or not.

>> as written it looks too credible for comfort.

Sorry for doing my job too well. :3

>>326888
but the green diagram never claimed to cover everything related to relationships or sexuality. It just had three major pillars of relationships on it.

>>326891
>Implying there are only three pillars
Mneme's criticism via a gamut analogy is quite appropriate.

>>326897
..no he said three major pillars, implying more pillars exist.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/06/08(Tue)09:41 No. 17099 ID: c4c313
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For the record I also find this thing quite annoying.

>>326898
tis true.
That was only a triangle designed based on a theory of relationships. Those are only major thigns, and there are many many more things. Hell, you could probably overlap the red triangle and it'd still make sense

>>326899
That's not even a proper triangle! Proximity to the top point is largely arbitrary.

>>326899
>You can see exactly what I mean from this handy pyramid.
>It keeps me safe from evil alien censorship.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/06/08(Tue)14:23 No. 17110 ID: c4c313
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>>326905

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/06/08(Tue)14:25 No. 17111 ID: c4c313
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I felt kind of bad for making such a crappy 10 minute stupid pyramid thing, so I took another shot at it the last hour or so. Didn't think people would take it as seriously as Roseanne Barr

>>326911
that's better, but I think that the labels for the top side and center are a bit strange. I like it other than that, though.

>>326911
Uh
>physical: touching, kissing, sex
>buddies
what

>>326916
Also:

>All 3 combo is Best Friends Forever

whut?

>>326916
Friendship with touch. Ya never punched yer buddy on the arm, tapped his back?

>>326919
you can tap a perfect stranger on the back, or hi five or brofist someone you just met. You can get in a fight with people you like, dislike, or don't even know. The diagram seems to be talking about intimate contact, which is less common among people who aren't familiar with each other.

>>326911
also I'd be willing to bet that there's plenty of contact between any two people that consider themselves soulmates.

>>326911
Mneme... do you molest all your friends?

>>326958
that.
explains.
EVERYTHING!

vytalibus 2010/06/15(Tue)16:21 No. 17756 ID: f35d0a
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Something I made when my computer stopped working for a day.

>>327556
Her head is too big.

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

But yeah, I realized that. I'm still not consistent with proportions.

at you got the tails.

vytalibus 2010/06/17(Thu)00:39 No. 17818 ID: f35d0a
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Most of you might not know which quest this came from. It's from my first quest.

Anyway, Kim picks up a note while Danny... is distracted.

>>327618
Psh, how could we forget your first quest? It was like Ruby Quest, only potentially more adorable (even if slightly less thought out).

Of course, the most memorable part was the whole "I'M AWESOME AND SO CAN YOU" spiel. ;)

What if a vibrator made a vuvuzela sound.

>>327690
I'd quit

>>327690
i'll take 100

>>327690
It'd be like having sex with BEEEEEEEEES.

>>327686
She looks kinda like Mewtwo to be honest. :V

vytalibus 2010/07/02(Fri)10:00 No. 18921 ID: 7c97d9
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Mika fishes out a very peculiar creature, while Agga looks on with bewilderment.

Sorry for crappy quality.

vytalibus 2010/07/03(Sat)21:02 No. 19057 ID: 7c97d9
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Only recently have I finally decided to give my characters their new looks. This is in accordance with my desire to make my drawing style more realistic. The only thing holding me back from doing this a long time ago was the fear that people might not get used to the new look, but it turns out that it's actually the least of my worries.

These are still prototype versions, but do let me know your opinion about them.

>>328857
huh, looks pretty good.

>>328857
LOOKS BETTER

vytalibus 2010/07/03(Sat)21:30 No. 19068 ID: 7c97d9
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>>328858
Thanks. I think I screwed up Diana's look there, so here's more sketches.

The main problem I have right now is with the likes of Sanya and Diana, whose heads aren't really humanoid and thus are hard to draw for me. I've been looking around for references on non-humanoid heads, and taking note of how they're supposed to look like. Granted, it'll still be pretty hard for me to adjust to something I've only had recent experience in, but hopefully I'll be able to pull it off.

>>328868
downward slant diana looks kinda evil.

>>328868
That's some nice stuff.

vytalibus 2010/07/03(Sat)21:48 No. 19071 ID: 7c97d9
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<MiB> silly ratgirl you cannot a Gendo... you have no glasses.

But someone does. And she'll make sure Diana will be the perfect candidate.

vytalibus 2010/07/03(Sat)22:37 No. 19075 ID: 7c97d9
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Even the Tonberry looks more realistic than that snowman-looking figure I used to apply.

Anonymous 2010/07/03(Sat)22:46 No. 19076 ID: bc1727
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Dammit Vyt, you went to bed too soon. Sheesh.

Tracing is so fun. Hopefully you get something out of this. I believe you were really on the right track to begin with.

If you want to go for a less cartoony look, I can give a few pointers (but I like your style as it is, forget the haters).

Anonymous 2010/07/03(Sat)22:47 No. 19077 ID: bc1727
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Sketch layer hidden.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/07/03(Sat)22:50 No. 19078 ID: c4c313
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>>328868

Depending how much you want to anthropomorphize it, mouse teeth follow the angle of the muzzle, not sticking out at a 90 degree angle as many cartoons have it. The best I've seen of this effect is to:

1) ignore the realism to draw the cute buckteeth in drawings facing the viewer.
2) most of the other angles of the head don't show the teeth at all
3) perspective on the head from below, throw caution to the wind and dive right into uncanny valley!

Honestly mouse teeth aren't as big as people make it out to be. Now beavers they got some teeth, but mice mostly just have a permanent :< expression.

>just have a permanent :< expression.

That made me d'aww.

Also, all true.

Wow, I'm actually glad I had to finish something up before thinking about sleeping.

>>328876
>>328877
I guess you weren't really lying when you said I was on the right track. One thing I noticed in your redline is the ear placement, which I usually place randomly if I don't get it right the first time.

Wow, you just made my sketches look adorable. Thanks for the help :3

>>328878
The huge mouse teeth was more of a preference, so expect them to be intact on my drawings for no apparent reason. Still, that image will give me some pointers on how to draw the head looking up. Thanks!

Now I have some good images to hopefully make a dream out of when I sleep now.

Mneme!CRITTerXzI 2010/07/03(Sat)23:12 No. 19081 ID: c4c313
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>>328876

Ooh, nice! Only thing I would suggest, Reaver, is that you integrate the eyes more into the head. Looks too much like stock eyelash templates just pasted on. Not that it isn't all ink on paper in the end after all, but there's a certain trick to getting the eyes shaped with the edges of the head, getting those negative spaces to look right, that makes the eyes look like they're part of the head.

>Reaver

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Have you -ever- seen Reaver red-line someone's art? Hehe, I'll take it as a compliment.

Anywho, thanks for the suggestions, Mneme. I was going for the OP style as much as possible and it's admittedly pretty far from how I usually draw eyes (hopefully that isn't terribly detrimental). I'm still pretty happy with it, had fun with it and I'm glad if it helped, however remotely, Vyt.

>>328882

Aw, well you draw as good as Reaver then, with similar styles. And eyes. I mean that lower right one just screamed Garth to me.

Maybe Reaver just doesn't redline people's art under the name Reaver. :3

>>328884
He really does draw very well. I hope I get to see him doing quests one day. :D

vytalibus 2010/07/04(Sun)17:08 No. 19126 ID: 7c97d9
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Last redesign. I'll get back to updating sometime later.

>>328926
gezzene is tiny.

>>328926
Gazzene's face isn't as long as that other newstyle Tonberry's.

vytalibus 2010/07/04(Sun)22:05 No. 19151 ID: 7c97d9
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>>328942
Gee, I wonder why.

Also, Zeekar helped me by redlining this, particularly the whole body. So I'm inking the final version.

Murdelp just gets more adorable all the time. I am sad that Sanya is done.

vytalibus 2010/07/05(Mon)21:56 No. 19212 ID: 7c97d9
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>>328996
Sanya Quest will not be continued on that point. However, I do plan on "recycling" some parts of it if I ever want to redo the quest.

And by the way, people were wondering about Diana's fur color. Here you go~

>>329012
Does she have grey fur or is that GREYSCALE

>>329023
>Diana's fur color

I doubt it's greysacle.

This is like a driver's license photo, only magnified in severity.

Male mouse tears are an aphrodisiac to female mice.

>>329164
that's nice, but diana and jonah are rats.

vytalibus 2010/07/15(Thu)23:29 No. 20093 ID: 7c97d9
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This is from an oC session, and I cropped this out because it's probably the only thing I've done right in that session.

I do hope you still remember her swimsuit. It still fits her new design~ <3

vytalibus 2010/07/30(Fri)00:59 No. 20999 ID: 7c97d9
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With the right convincing, Agga can utilize inventions specifically for dangerous missions.

Underage b&

I dead? No no.

Last few weeks have been very busy weeks for me lately. First official job plus a series of apartment clean-up and pest control have left me with little time around the internet. I've almost thought of undergoing a quest hiatus because of those, but ultimately decided not to.

However, there will be very limited activity coming from me and my quests, at least while the aforementioned conditions haven't been completed yet. Fortunately, I still find time to draw, though it's during the day and so I can't really indulge into stuff that I'd usually draw when I'm up at 3 AM with no one else.

Status report, there.

Congrats on the job. Glad you'll still be around, I really enjoy your quests and stuff.

:3

vytalibus 2010/08/30(Mon)21:28 No. 22424 ID: 7c97d9
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>>332056
Hehe, thanks for the support. I'm just seven days away from finishing this job, though it only gets busier and more stressful from here. Hopefully I'll be back once I'm done.

Here's something I whipped up just now. A Talyxian which to me looks almost anatomically-correct. Could it be Amina from Sanya Quest or someone unrelated?

There's a chance you might see this in Tinker Quest, so watch out! For now, I'll work on how to make it even more Talyxian-like.

>>332224
huh is a good filename, was like "huh, look at that" you are totes getting better.

vyt i am the first to rip you a new one but your art style is definitely improving

maybe now i just have to worry about getting squicked out by the subject matter, instead of the art AND the subject matter

vytalibus 2010/09/08(Wed)18:42 No. 22804 ID: 7c97d9
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Been working on my drawing, starting with Sanya from Sanya Quest. Some very noticeable changes if you've been around since I started. If not, I'll list them out:

* More convincing appearance. No more dragon boobs; we all know they're unrealistic.
* Better body proportions. Had I continued Sanya Quest, there will no more be "short-legged Sanya".

... and that's pretty much it.

>>332604
Wider shoulders (and maybe hips)

The tail doesn't quite look right.

Oh I know why the tail doesn't look right. It shouldn't be trespassing in between the butt cheeks.

yeah, raise the tail a smidge.

>>332604
Neck seems a little thin.

http://hippie.nu/~unicorn/tut/xhtml/#basic-anthros-tail

I disagree that simply moving it up is the right thing, since that'll give you Kidney-tail Syndrome.

The issue with Sanya's tail is trying to fit it in with her body. I know that the tail is just an extension of the backbone, but I'm having difficulty putting in a draconic tail to a humanoid body. I'll probably have to compromise by not exaggerating the butt cheeks, as well as other advices given out.

Thanks, though.

>>332611
hmmm, from that it looks like the biggest problem is the base is too thick.

>>332659
Sevi ~<3

vytalibus 2010/09/13(Mon)19:23 No. 23144 ID: 7c97d9
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The nightmare!

I've been thinking about this thread and how it serves little purpose nowadays to the discussion of my quests. I'm planning on making separate threads for my running and future quests while remodeling this one into art dumps and discussions about my quest running performances and other stuff like that.

I did not do this way earlier because I somehow foresaw that I won't be getting substantial discussions about my quests, and so thought it'd be a waste. However, I now have a very cluttered thread that spans across different quests, and it does not help me in the long run.

If you have opinions about this decision, feel free to post. I will put up the new quest discussion threads for my running quests later on.

vytalibus 2010/09/19(Sun)20:12 No. 23394 ID: 7c97d9
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<Clai|Work> draw a sad robot vyt

I don't think I did a good job. But it's animated a bit, so take a look.

>>333194

:<

 

>>333194

Finally got a new motherboard to replace my old, supposedly dying one. This means no activity from me in a few days or so, give or take another few days.

I will try to come back as soon as possible.

>>333435

Godspeed, Vyt.

vytalibus 2010/09/28(Tue)21:10 No. 23766 ID: 7c97d9
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After forgetting to buy something essential, I'm back to doodling again. This whole thing took me under an hour.

Top left: a practice in sketching something similar to Stitch from "Lilo and Stitch". Not quest-influenced.

Bottom left: Something I forgot to implement in Tinker Quest - bags. After this chapter, you will see Agga and Mika carry some sort of inventory storage; this means I will be utilizing items for once.

Top Right: "I'll draw random quest characters that come to mind!" Behold, Tom and Ruby from "Ruby Quest" and Penji from "Tozol Quest".

Bottom Right: ???

>>333566
Eeeeeeee Chibi-Penji is so ad'aaawable I wanna just snatch her up and hug her to bits :3c

okay those are pretty damn adorable

>>333566
You're getting better, vyt! Although that Tom and Ruby pic creeps me out. Uncanny, it is. That Penji is the most adorable thing, however, and the Tinker sketch there is pretty good. They're looking very anatomically sound, which is something I recall Sanya having trouble with at times.

>>333566
I'm going to be a dick and point out that Penji's legs are completely wrong because I tend to make exactly that mistake myself.

>>333598
That's not being a dick. This is being a dick:

> "THIS IS ALL WRONG YOU SUCK GO BACK TO FA YOU FURFAG"

... What I mean is, you pointed it out and I'm taking note of it. Thanks.

>>333574
Anatomy's only one of the things I failed to do properly in Sanya Quest. Now I have to work on my story-telling.

It's good to see you practicing. That's a very mature response to the complaints you've gotten.

Chibi penji is darn cute even though the legs are wrong.

I am back with a new motherboard. Hopefully this will be the end of my problems.

Whether they are fixed or not, activity from me will resume in a few days.

vytalibus 2010/10/07(Thu)22:16 No. 24571 ID: 7c97d9
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Remember when Sanya first met Amina?

Well, it got a bit... "up close", right?

oh god dragon grope

vytalibus 2010/10/13(Wed)13:45 No. 24963 ID: 7c97d9
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Some assery I've done at school. Note the inconsistency found on the tail.

vytalibus 2010/10/13(Wed)17:53 No. 24976 ID: 7c97d9
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More assery!

The tail shouldn't decrease in width like that when it gets close to the butt. Why did you think it would? Go look at pictures of lizard folk or something.

>>334776
Her tail should line up with her coccyx.

vyt|class 2010/10/14(Thu)07:41 No. 25014 ID: 03f4bc
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I got the tailbone right. The skeletal structure is pretty much solved. However, I'm confused by how I should flesh the whole tail out. It's not as easy as "joining two bones together", as this concerns all those muscles around the tail. Please understand that I am having problems with the tail mass, not the tailbone.

I'm hoping this reference image will help me out, as it shows the skeletal structure of an authentic dragon as well as a muscular shadow beneath it. Hopefully I'll be able to figure out how I should shape the tail out.

vytalibus 2010/10/14(Thu)13:40 No. 25024 ID: 7c97d9
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Glorious assery!

Anonymous 2010/10/14(Thu)14:17 No. 25027 ID: a41aaf
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>>334824
DEM BUTTOCKS
>>334814
>However, I'm confused by how I should flesh the whole tail out. It's not as easy as "joining two bones together", as this concerns all those muscles around the tail. Please understand that I am having problems with the tail mass, not the tailbone.
Basically, the muscles at the base of the tale have to be strong enough to lift and support the entire mass of the tail. For fleshy tails, these muscles are BIG. Imagine the base of the tail as a cone of muscle, with the base sitting under the flesh on top of the pelvic bone, and the tail bone extending out from the point (with the rest of the tail musculature wrapped around it). The tail should not narrow as it reaches the pelvis, but widen.
<-- Informative elephant butt.

vytalibus 2010/10/20(Wed)23:00 No. 25391 ID: 7c97d9
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Might as well. I mean, Sanya's a pretty unstable half-dragon, anyway.

>>335191
Oooh yes so dark and brooding, liking torture for no fucking reason but to like it and seem grim and dark.

It's like you never even read Silvermoon.

>>335192
Funny how you think this is still related to the quest. Though I guess it can't be helped anyway. :3

Also, yeah this is just something I've always wanted to do ever since everyone picked it up. No hard feelings or anything.

>>335197
It's related because you still think it's a good idea, for god's sake. Being Grim and Dark for no reason but to be Grim and Dark is inane and juvenile.

>>335204

Trine.


Be nice.

>>335191
I take it she failed the candidacy or what ever the fuck it was called?

>>335209
He doesn't have to be nice when he's giving critique in the discussion thread.

>>335213
sure, but he didn't give any advice on how to fix it, just complaints.

>>335213
Dunno why I bother or you try, Beakie, it's not like he'll listen or bother to improve what we point out.

>>335214
How about not writing a character to be GRIM AND DARK for no reason other than that? Perhaps he should try for an honest to god background? Ooh, ooh, I know, maybe he should make the character more than a stupidly jerkass hard-boiled asshole!

>>335216
okay, we already gave him that advice, you are being redundant.

>>335217
Too bad he doesn't really care, huh?

>>335218
Trine, you're this [-] close to being a new... ugh I hate comparisons they make me sound like a dick. Point is, brah, you be insinuating.

Anyway does it matter if he cares? Has he said he doesn't care? Do we care if he cares? Fuck no, he's some dude on the internet.

>>335219
I care because I want to see him improve. His art is growing, and so should his writing, likewise. Unfortunately, it isn't. If it had, this reboot wouldn't have started the way it did: With a professional bounty hunter killing his only source of info JUST BECAUSE it would seem grim and dark for the character to do so. Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but I'm feeling incredibly cynical.

>>335214
>sure, but he didn't give any advice on how to fix it, just complaints.
The complaints are advice. It's called user feedback.

If someone has a complaint about a quest it should be brought to the author's attention, and the author can then decide whether or not it's actually an issue.

I'm not going to complain much, but I am going to clarify stuff so people don't assume stuff that isn't.

As a practicing artist and author, I am open to criticism. That includes complaints and advices, and I do take them into consideration. Just because I am full of mistakes doesn't mean I'm aware of them, and so even the silliest of complaints give me a heads-up on what's happening. For someone like me, any response is better than none.

That being said, I have limited knowledge of how to fix stuff myself. If I commit mistakes over and over again, it's a good assumption that I don't know jack shit what to do with them. I know this might be asking for too much, but I do want to hear more of what can be done to resolve my problems. Hearing what NOT to do is one thing, but helping a guy out with sound advices is better.

Trine, I've already considered your complaints the moment I read them. I'm working on the things you've mentioned myself, though if you really wish, you can contact me via IRC (Rizon server, #tgchan or #rubyquest) or Steam (ID: vytalibus) to sort things out personally. Hopefully I can at least entertain you after everything's said and done.

And to clarify what I meant by >>335197, it's that I did that more to mock myself for such a horrible start. It's something I have to live with, now that it's kind of gotten stuck in my "reputation".

With that out of the way, trust me that I'm working on making Sanya a believable character. That includes her motives and personality. Again, you can contact me personally if you want to talk about it.

>>335241
You want me to be specific, I'll do it right here, thanks.

As I said, your art is growing, and so too should your writing. Had this been the case, the way the current thread started would not have happened: professional bounty hunters don't kill their leads because they can. That's called "Being a fucking moron" and raises questions, such as "Why hasn't this person found employment as something else, if her methods are this asanine?" It shakes the sense of reality and tears down the suspension of disbelief. I'm guilty of similar acts, myself, but I learned really quick that erotic writing is not my forte and is in fact kind of creepy.

So I stopped.

To be frank, I really like Tinker and think it's a great step in the correct direction for you. Or, rather, a leap. You don't focus on silly fanservice, the characters are more like people than caricatures, things actually make sense rather than be convoluted in such a way as to cause maximum suffering to one person, the plot isn't centered around sex, it gave me a lot of hope.

And then you started this other one, which I prefer to think doesn't really exist.

>>335249
I started Tinker Quest without any plot whatsoever. The readers are free to choose between characters, and little plot or character information is needed for the readers to be able to suggest what to do. While I admit that I find it easier to run Tinker Quest than any other quests, I felt it wasn't helping me with characterization and plot.

And thus Bounty Quest was born.

As much as I appreciate your comments about Tinker Quest, I do want this to be realized: I aim to improve. You already mentioned that I haven't really worked on my writing much, and that same notion drove me to start Bounty Quest. This way, I get to hear what you think about the things I lack.

Bounty Quest went off to a rocky start, as I was not able to deliver a very good introduction. It jumps off to an immediate point with little explanation whatsoever (which I blame on my constant struggle to create an actual starting point), and the character seems to be violent than ever. It was my intention to portray the character as lacking in terms of morality, but I fail to deliver a backstory to support this stance. Nonetheless, I'm continuing with it, since I believe I owe the readers, including you, an explanation for all this before I consider my quest an epic failure.

Bounty Quest isn't a fanservice quest. It isn't an angst-only quest. It's simply me treading on unfamiliar grounds, and trying to keep my balance steady. I wish that you stick around for a little while longer while I manage myself to bring a half-decent plot and characters: something I cannot do in Tinker Quest.

>something I cannot do in Tinker Quest.

But you are. It's weird that you recognize what you're doing wrong, but not what you're doing right! Tinker is full of likable, enjoyable characters, and it doesn't feel tied down to a 'plot', instead growing one organically that we feel much more influential in.

Again I'm going to point to my own success and try to drive you from there. In Hat Quest, I had no prewritten plot either. If you're looking for it, this becomes evident by the way the plot turns so rapidly (Coyote is the villain! No, Clown is! No, both are!) but it's important to note that plots can emerge from almost nothing. If you watch your suggesters, and take note of how they react to situations, you can more easily craft a story for them.

Quests are powerful in this sense that they give this feeling of power to people who normally, as observers, don't have it. They bring change and resolve issues present in the world, and this satisfies them.

My point here is that You don't need to write a plot ahead of time. Sometimes, it can even hurt you. Instead, it's better to start as vague as possible, perhaps with a small goal, and let it grow from there. Hatquest was originally going to go from Hattori destroying the Hat and taking over the world, instead, the suggesters made him a hero and saved the world. The less defined your story is, the easier it is to tailor it and refine it in a way that your audience enjoys.

You're doing this in Tinker already, perhaps without even realizing.

The point is, when players know there's a story already, they're more likely to simply give up, and follow it blindly, then blame you for terrible writing.

Less restriction in Quests is generally better. There are some examples where it's not, but for you, I think you should stick to the more freeform manner. Bounty feels less like an adventure and more of hitting signposts you've marked for us.

vytalibus 2010/11/03(Wed)19:35 No. 26130 ID: 7c97d9
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It took lots of convincing from Maomar for the goblins to cooperate sincerely.

Lots of it.

>>335930

Yeah, we kind of guessed that.