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106228 No. 106228 ID: b073ca

Oh hey, here's a discussion thread. Hopefully I use this one a bit more than the CoW one.
http://www.tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/762401.html
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No. 109399 ID: bb78f2

Which pronoun does Feist prefer? Just to be accurate. I don't think this has actually come up yet or if we should have Sam ask in quest because character development.
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No. 109408 ID: b073ca

Feist goes by she/her: Baxter at least refers to her as Miss Feist when berating Robin. It might be a good idea to have Sam ask later, but right now shes in commander mode.
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No. 109463 ID: 4d445e

I did wanna say I am enjoying this quest a lot. Sci-Fi,Action, Mystery, great characters, birds, badasses and butts. What's not to love?
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No. 109499 ID: 15a025
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109499

Buckwheat does even more sunfish fan art.
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No. 109515 ID: b073ca

>>109499
Awww thats a cute pupper.
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No. 109520 ID: f9c797

>>109499
Feisty.
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No. 109579 ID: bb78f2

Well I think it's obvious the repo men were holding back whenever the gang fought them in the backstory.

Now our only hope is BDSM Bunny with that mining railgun, hopefully stranding the repomen here until their backup arrives, then maybe we do it again to their backup... and again to the backup backup.
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No. 109588 ID: fe7355

>>109579
I wouldn't pin my hopes on their backup being only a single ship, and if so that they also don't figure out from the wreck or debris of the previous repo men's ship that it was destroyed by a mass driver. If the backup is more than one ship, or one that can tank a mass driver hit and still maneuver to fire back, then Bucky-ball's plan ain't gonna work.

Hell, for all we know their backup is in-system right now, jumped in outside of both the Starlette and Sunfish's sensor ranges, and the ship that dropped in nearly on top of the Sunfish did a intra-system jump. That would align more with the sensible idea for handling jumping into a unknown star system: Jump into the outskirts of the system, do a long-range sensor sweep to figure out what is where, then do a precision jump in. That could explain how the boarding repo men's ship could jump in so close to the Sunfish without hitting anything.
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No. 110047 ID: b073ca

I know people on here were telling me they wanted to throw money at me a while back, and I said I'd let them know when that could happen.
Soooo, yeah going to try to do a few commissions, they'll be listed over here http://www.furaffinity.net/user/nontoxo/ for the time being.
Still not really interested in doing a pateron, but right now I'm just testing the waters
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No. 110783 ID: e5b57f

Toxo, I swear, you and RML are going to be the death of me, with your well-drawn, character-driven porn quests. I discovered Coxwette Monday night, marathoned it, and then found Sunfish right after.

I'm now seriously considering starting a quest up myself. You two are inspirational as hell.
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No. 110784 ID: e5b57f

Also, you have my undying devotion because aardvark. They get zero love from artists, and are my absolute favorite animal.
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No. 110811 ID: d38e72

Concept for a body horror boss monster; some poor shmuck trapped inside a monstrous fleshy hulk sized space suit made up of many dead limb things, all competing with eachother to act the most like a normal body part and flailing appropriately.

Also I'm petitioning to call the limb monsters 'phantom limbs' because they attach inconveniently, have a mind of their own, have been removed from bodies and are very spooky.
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No. 110824 ID: b15da4

Can we keep the leg monster as a pet?
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No. 112162 ID: 15a025
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112162

Did another starfox style sprite portrait. This time it's Bucky.
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No. 112163 ID: 15a025
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112163

and also did a determined/angry version.
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No. 112355 ID: 4063a3
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112355

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No. 112356 ID: f1a994

>>112355
Fuck my fucking life.
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No. 112397 ID: 9a036d

>>112162
>>112163
awww thats awesome man!

>>112355
hahahah fuuuck
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No. 114007 ID: 5cbc25

>Bucky the rabbit is in serious condition
>No one looks positive
Is he kill?
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No. 114008 ID: 3ce125

I'm not even sure what injuries he's suffered, aside from teratoma bites and some decompression.
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No. 114042 ID: d36af7

>>114008
>>/quest/799386
>feel yourself being crushed against the strap, causing your ribs to creak
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No. 114076 ID: 3ce125

>>114042
Well that could just be bruises.
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No. 114169 ID: ed048e

Did that mouse guy get with his amour before that Repo-man Eggbot found him?>
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No. 114170 ID: fe7355

>>114169
No idea if Robin got together with Reed. Tox has drawn some porn of 'em together and put it up on his FA account, but that's not canon.

However, the mouse twin we saw at the end of the thread may have been Robin's brother, Baxter. Since Baxter was the one who went in with Sam and Annie to meet with Dr. Spencer, I think it's likely the security team would have questioned him for longer than Robin.
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No. 114174 ID: bb78f2

I don't think the Repoman is necessarily going to kill mousey, I think they're going to take the mouse hostage to get out of the situation at minimum.

Judging from the scenerio they're in, they MOST likely just care about getting Sam, Annie, and Bucky and don't know jack about the people from this ship. Otherwise they wouldn't have stormed in like idiots and got owned so quick.

Also, judging from Annie's origin, these guys are practically brainwashed so they probably don't care about pay and care more about the mission, so they have tunnel vision and don't even want the delicious classic regular DNA they might think the Sunfish crew have.

So I'm pretty sure the most we have to sweat and worry about is saving the mouse from a hostage situation, which means there probably will be a deal of some sort. Hopefully, repodude will simply want to leave the Sunfish and not demand the Starlette crew in exchange, only wanting to survive. Thing is, the Sunfish crew isn't going to take a chance to let a survivor ever leave the ship and go on his merry way, even with a hostage.

So mouse is gonna get shot in the head, they repo dude, then mouse heals from bullet wound and everyone just claims neurosurgery saved the day.
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No. 114177 ID: fe7355

>>114174
>So mouse is gonna get shot in the head, they repo dude, then mouse heals from bullet wound and everyone just claims neurosurgery saved the day.

Um, if I remember correctly, Robin and Baxter don't have the regen/immortality capability. It was the crew that got that treatment, since they wouldn't be frozen in cryo, unlike the passengers that were. The mouse twins came out of cryo, so they're passengers, so they didn't get the treatment. So if one of 'em gets shot in the head, he'll be dead or seriously brain damaged.

Also, I suspect if a regenerative immortal treated person gets brain damaged, the neuro-pattern stored in the damaged portion will be lost when the nerve tissue regenerates. That means personality changes or memory loss. So getting shot in the head is something they won't want to happen anyway.
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No. 117834 ID: 094652

So, we're playing one of the Repo-Bird squad's previous missions?

Does reNu implant memories of effective but fallen squad units until one of them doesn't go insane, or are the 'cadets' all trained from scratch after their brains are rewritten the original memory package?
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No. 117938 ID: a6af03

>>114177
Yup, the twins are normal everyday mortals. Also yeah, as we learned from the terratoma from the asteroid: theres certain things that dont regenerate properly. As Dachelle mentions- he was different after the accident. also the implications that captain stokes is suffering from a neurological problem that regeneration alone cant treat.
>>117834
basically they lump a bunch of older repo men memories together and cram them into the new bodies.
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No. 118778 ID: f7498c

Just caught up on the quest and I love it. Is this a thread where I can shitpost about how I want to have sex with half of the characters in the quest, or should I keep that to myself?
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No. 118782 ID: be350b

>>118778
Higher up this thread, there's a link to a wonderful place with lots of awesome drawings of such situations. I feel the comment section of these drawings would be the best place.
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No. 118796 ID: f7498c

>>118782
>tox hasn't drawn any lewds of the characters i most want to fuck

It's better this way actually, now they can remain pure everywhere but in my imagination. I'll just keep my patrician tastes to myself.

Also
>FA
>wonderful place
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No. 118798 ID: 3ce125

>>118796
...who, the repomen? Or some of the other crew members?
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No. 118810 ID: f7498c

>>118798

C'mon man, give me some credit. I suppose it isn't impossible to have a repoman fetish but I don't think I would consider that "patrician." Besides, wouldn't Annie lewds essentially be repoman lewds for all intents and purposes?
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No. 120565 ID: a30024

https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/845350.html#866647
https://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/845350.html#866701

Honestly, some of this is for convenience sake. I originally had the Annie clones raised completely separately from the other kids, but it meant having to come up with absurdly convoluted bullshit in order for them to have even interacted together at all. And believe me I had a way to do it, but it was stupid and took away from the story. Basically they'd be meeting, "in the drift" pacific rim style during memory transfers. I'm not saying it couldn't have worked, but I feel like the current setting is more suited to how the story evolved.

In a similar vein: I try to appeal to reality where I can, but for the purposes of a narrative I have to build in a certain amount of incompetence when it comes to the antagonists in order to make the story progress. I could, in theory, ramp things up to "maximum difficulty" but I don't find that kind of thing fun or interesting. I think there's certain types of stories where that works well, but with a reader driven narrative its more important to me to pace things out and let characters develop.
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No. 120585 ID: 600f38

>>120565
It DOES cause a plothole.
Annie being a clone soldier created for ReNu's Repomen was a shocking reveal, but both Sam and Bucky apparently knew that she was a clone soldier created by ReNu.
I guess they just assumed that ReNu contracted out their clone enforcement agents to some other company's clone soldier program?
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No. 120621 ID: cdb7be

>>120565

Shit I didn't realise you'd commented on the discussion thread. I'm sorry if I've fucked things up, I'm kind of paranoid now that the reason there has been a longer than usual update period is because of that. Obviously it's up to you how you do things, I think it's partly unfair of me that I highlighted it and then didn't provide any alternative, but I'm kind of in a bit of a fuzzy headspace atm and all I could manage was pointing out the basic issue. However I have since been thinking of how it could be patched up, it's still not developed but at least initially it goes something along the lines of there being a mis-communication in the procedure between the off-world higher ups and the facility management, meaning that for a period they didn't realise that the repo kids and the normal kids are to be separated.
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No. 120625 ID: cdb7be

>>120621

I think when you go along this vein it means you can preserve the overall sense of "maximum difficulty" as not a thing you're necessarily going to be exposed to, but more a boundary condition of reality itself. Even though reality *is* maximum difficulty (in a way, but I don't look at it that pessimistically), adversaries *do* fuck up a *lot* simply because they are organic and not necessarily as scary or efficient as they could be.
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No. 120680 ID: a30024

>>120621
https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questarch/res/801983.html#820139
>"They started us young: before we can even walk we were being programmed for battle. They kept us together, encouraged us to fight. Anyone slow, or weak or just different was singled out and hammered into shape by the rest of us. By the time we were integrated with the rest of the kids, we were already Repo-men: reporting on anything suspicious and quietly solving 'problems'."

Ive already addressed why normal kids and the repo clones are integrated together: they're supposedly pint sized enforcers, keeping the other kids in line by keeping them in fear. Its not perfect narratively, and leaves some room for some plot holes but its what Ive gone with lore-wise.

Also yeah Im going to have to ask you to chill out with the huge blocks of spoiler text and stuff. Glad you're enjoying the quest but, to be frank, Im kinda over people telling me how to "fix" it.

Honestly the whole point of the clone transfer program is that its not a perfect system. And while Im sure in the real world, over generations of cloning, someone would fine tune it to be nearly infallible, thats not the story Im telling.
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No. 120681 ID: a30024

also, AI discussion has been moved to the BDA thread in /general/
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No. 120699 ID: 088f85

To amend what i said yesterday: i do want people to be able to come to me if they feel like theres a problem with my quests. Especially if it’s something that makes them uncomfortable reading them. Being able to get more than one viewpoint while writing is why i use a quest format to begin with and more than anything i want my stories to feel accessible to anyone. And i want to be able to work with people to course correct, which can be hard on this make-it-up-as-you-go format. There’s some really awesome readers I respect who’ve cone to me about problems they had with, for example: the white savior shit i pulled in book of worms. And i look at that now and admit, yeah not great, i can do better than that. And thats what ive tried to do, even though im still really proud of BOW as a completed work.

But its up to me to “fix” my quests. I cant always be on point about it, but its my responsibility to make something that i think everyone should read.
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No. 120704 ID: d0bba6

>>120699
>white savior shit in BoW
???
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No. 120727 ID: 088f85

>>120704
Yeah, Dale and Beth roll into a native american reservation and Dale gets a vision of the thunderbird, and they lead everyone to safety (by putting them all in danger). Dale’s heritage isnt specifically stated but Beth is explicitly stated to be of european decent. Its not the most egregious example of the trope Ive seen, naturaly, and Dale really is only a “saviour” by being a huge coward, but its still not great.
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No. 120735 ID: 499d93

I don’t really think you need to worry so much about that stuff. It’s not like anyone here’s going to overanalyse it and pick on every little detail they don’t like, especially when details like dale & beth’s heritage aren’t major plot points.
Just relax and do what you enjoy, because it’s what we enjoy too.
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No. 120752 ID: c31aac

I think maybe you're reading too much into your own writing with that "white saviour" stuff, they're furries man

Speciesism could be a thing, sure, but it's not like there's not necessarily a direct correlation between where you're from and what color you be, aye?

On top of that, worrying too much about these kinds of tropes can lead to situations where your tiptoeing around them starts to distract from actually writing things well.

Don't stress too far out over these things, you're not some hollywood producer cutting black people out of roles because it "won't sell" you're some dude on the internet telling cool stories about animal people
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No. 120930 ID: 2e758a

Im just sad that wasps left the way it did anddidn't have and closure. I know you have two quests now but still feel sad bout it
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No. 121539 ID: f89a48
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121539

When Bausch+Lomb restructured their business, nobody could have expected what they had planned.
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No. 122685 ID: bb78f2

I wonder if there's only ONE company that does the cloning process, or if there's multiple.

If there's multiple, and the company goes under, do the repomen under it become like... ronin repomen?
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No. 123235 ID: 2202fb

Is there an update schedule (or trend)?
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No. 123243 ID: 8b2814

presently, it is "updating Moot Point instead"
Sunfish will return later.
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No. 128704 ID: 688dd6

>>120930
Big same, dude. Moot Point doesn't interest me anywhere near as much as Book of Worms, Conspiracy of Wasps, and to a lesser extent Sunfish did. I respect the direction Toxoglossa has taken over the last few years, and support him wholeheartedly in all his endeavors, but as a fan... I can't help but be disappointed.
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