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809939 No. 809939 ID: bfb318

It's a nice day out, but I don't have many good memories of surviving in a forest.

Previous Threads/Wiki: https://tgchan.org/wiki/Unnatural_Selection
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No. 809940 ID: bfb318
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809940

I thought I was farther south than east, but I just managed to locate some landmarks to pinpoint my position, and I'm farther east than I thought.

Going is slow despite that I'm running myself to exhaustion, but by the time I saw any roads or rivers, it was too dangerous. My chasers know that I can float downstream or hitchhike. I've noticed call boxes, too, left over from an era where satellite coverage was unreliable. Even so, I don't know who I would call these days, and it would be easy for my enemies to put a pair of hidden eyes on every call box and still keep their actions hidden. This place isn't supposed to be of any strategic importance, so they can't unleash a whole army over here without attracting bigger fish. I still see or hear a helicopter flying overhead now and then.

I'm at a loss of what else to do. The closer I get to any kind of civilization, the fewer animals I'll be able to find and eat, I might even run into hunters. Civilization itself might be watched, too, as there is a town within a few dozen miles, but I can't stay out in the wilderness forever. Even if my handcrank and batteries means I can keep the CAI running for a long time, I've had too many damn close calls with the wilderness, and it's only a matter of time before a neumono under OPA employment just happens to wander inside of empathy range. I can only roll those dice so many times. I may just need to choose the least dangerous item after all.
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No. 809941 ID: a48186

Head further into the wilderness.
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No. 809943 ID: 015058

Well for good or bad you need to find some sort of civilization.

The thing is that what you do when you find civilization will decide your fate.

If you wander into the nearest big town and try to throw Vanski under the bus you will probably get caught by his agents and everyone including your Ai friends are fucked.

But if you just try to set up a nice apartment for your Cai friends to live in safely off the grid then Vanski will not be so murderous if he does catch you.

Ultimately you did this to save Glitchers people while avoiding hurting your own hives welfare (at least until you can all escape). So that means finding the Cai a safe home while not hurting Vanski's or his friends interests (in the short term).

All that aside you need to find transportation. Something that can get you into the thick of society quickly. So you might need to find a village or outpost and take the risk. At least long enough to get a better map.
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No. 809944 ID: 3ce125

>>809940
>I might even run into hunters
That's a good thing, isn't it? You want to find someone civilized who can help you out, but won't be easy for the salikai to track. If you can find a hunter, they might be able to get you some supplies. Do you have anything that might be valuable enough to trade for a gun? If you can hunt wildlife with your knife and gather some skins or trophies, you could trade for more.

Ultimately you'll want a personal jammer. You could potentially get into civilization safely by disguising yourself, but I don't think you have the materials to do that.
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No. 809945 ID: 84ac62

Aircraft are monitored pretty carefully, to avoid interference with each other, to mark where they were last known in case some big flying critter or weather event takes them down, and so they can provide information on things they can see. As such, your enemies are very unlikely to be in control of them. They might have ears and eyes in the craft or, more likely, the monitoring stations, but they won't control the flight paths and schedule themselves - and any spies they have would be working among people who aren't their agents, so they won't be neumono (who would empathically give their extra allegience/duties away) and any neumono you find at those bases could be sympathetic to you (though best to avoid them, since they could be interrogated to track you).

Finding your way to some sort of airbase still might be your best bet for now? You might be able to smuggle yourself on board some vehicle and skip straight to a large town or city.

Aside a nearby town, is there anything else of interest that you know of nearby? Local tribal neumono territory, mines, lumber operations, roads being built, farms, known archeological sites?
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No. 809948 ID: 87547f

Well what exactly is the plan Likol? Get to civilization without anyone finding you and then what? I know we want to save the Ai's but how are you going to do that?

Right now you have no money and no identity. You could pretend to be a tribal if your empathy would not give you away. There are probably some safety measures in place for feeding and clothing confused Tribals just out of the woods.

If any of your contacts are still alive you will not be able to tell if they have betrayed you until you meet them face to face. Which is probably to late at that point.

So first get your bearings. How far is it to a really big town? Is it even possible to get that far on foot?

If not then you need to find transportation. Borrow or steal or hitch a ride(hiding or openly) on a vehicle.

If you can get to a big enough town with proper internet you can get help from the Ai if Glitcher is not playing dead really hard. They can hack into anything you might need if you can get them somewhere safe enough for them to peak out of there hiding place.
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No. 809951 ID: 3abd97

This is something of a catch 22. You can't keep the CAI alive in the wilderness indefinitely. And you can't bring them to civilization safely without making yourself much easier for OPA and their allies to find.

Do you have any idea what your options are around here? Perhaps certain specific wildernesses or chunks of civilization better suit your goals than others.
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No. 809956 ID: bfb318
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809956

>Aircraft are monitored pretty carefully
I'm unsure. It could be some other faction, nation, or whatever, but this is territory only loosely correlated with an ultrahive at best, and is neutral territory at worst. I'm not up to speed on current events, but even though the bulk of the ultrahive wars are over, there are still pockets of the world that commercial air traffic prefers to avoid, and where paramilitary organizations can operate out of. The farther into an ultrahive I get, the more I may be scrutinized for my appearance, and the more resources OPA will have to find me, even if they can't operate as openly.

A legitimate hunter may be good to run into, but I would only trade some of my barely cooked meat for prepared, and preserved, food. I already have a gun, but due to the noise it creates, I prefer to avoid shooting when possible. I also have zeny on me, anyway.

My plan is to meet Arza. He's probably on the planet, and I've just got to find where he's staying. Then get there, or get in contact with him. He cares for the AI, I'm sure of it. If I can hand it off to him, and tell him what's going on, then what happens to me is inconsequential. The next safest bet would be to just set the CAI loose, and have them attempt to hide out in civilization, but that may be risky. Society on the whole is on guard for a CAI, and there are roaming bits of data and investigation that attempt to detect signature CAI computation. The chances of being found out on any given day are virtually nil, but just like me in the wilderness, if it goes bad, it's as good as over.

No matter what, I should reach civilization at some point, in some way. I don't see any nearby things that could count as an airbase. No towns have become big, either. I'd need to get transportation for a big town, but the farther away I get picked up, the better.

I also recheck my inventory, with the most notable things being the CAI block and batteries, my laptop, and Raush's laptop, and the spare zeny. https://tgchan.org/wiki/Unnatural_Selection_Stats#Likol

I study the map some more. I see an odd spot - it actually looks like there might be lumber yard within a day's time. There's a small town a few days away. I can hitchhike on any road. Near the lumber yard, too, there's a bus stop.
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No. 809957 ID: 3abd97

>>809956
I say go towards the lumber yard.
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No. 809958 ID: 015058

If you can get to a wifi connection you might be able to find Arza by tracking where he is teaching or working. He is pretty famous so might be some public news of what he is currently up to. You can track him down from there. But don't call him directly.

As for getting to him.

Any public transportation anywhere near the spire will be watched. They can not track everything so are most likely focusing on the major roads leading out of the area.

I would try the possible lumber yard first.

If its a alien lumber yard maybe you can hide on a log truck to whatever mill it takes them to. But if its a neumono crew they would notice your empathy? Either way might be worth a quick scouting trip before going elsewhere. Maybe they send logs down river? Or by airship?
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No. 809983 ID: 91ee5f

>>809956
>Inventory
.....why do you have a Quokko Plush? Wait, isn't that your Queen's name? Why do you have a plush of her? Do you snuggle with it at night so that you can sleep?

>Go where?
Let's try the lumber yard.
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No. 810025 ID: bfb318
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810025

I decide on the lumberyard. It's close by, at the very least, and it's nestled low enough that I can at least get a decent look at it, first.

It takes all day, but I arrive just at the last stretch of sun. That's good, since there are too many predators at night to safely move, at least since I can't use lights at night unless it's an emergency.

My goggles have binocular capabilities, so I get a good look at the lumber mill. It is modest. I see a couple of aliens, but about 60 neumono appear to live here. Kids, included. They're most likely a hive that lives and works here, with some alien to fill in some gaps, most likely administrative, or possibly drivers. My goggles alert me to some security. Just a few cameras strategically placed to watch over the perimeter, and a few pictograph signs to alert tribal neumono that they aren't welcome across the barbed wire fence. That, and a few airhorns, probably in case animals get too close.

I did run into a tribal hive at one point. Thankfully, they just barked at me to get me to go away. Some are simply territorial, and thankfully, the more cannibalistic hives have learned how many others carry guns these days and have learned to back off. I was more concerned about the noise they made, at the time.

Anyways, usual menial labor is left to neumono, but since drivers need to be away from home frequently, it's not uncommon for aliens to take up that job. if I wait long enough, there may be an alien driver that will take a truck that I can hide inside.

If I'm just a little lucky, they have a wireless network that I can use if I move just a little closer. They're so far out in the wilderness, they may not even have reason to keep it secured. It's risky without a jammer, though, if I get within empathic range by accident and they want to know who's scurrying out in the forest.

First, there's something in my pocket that's...
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No. 810026 ID: bfb318
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810026

What the heck is this?

That is, it's a plush of my Queen. A few of us made some plushies in our spare time, mostly of our queen, but a few others. Even one of me, in our communal area, but...

I do not know where this came from. That is, I didn't bring it with me.

I review my inventory, again. There's more zeny. I had brought 2010, I knew that, but I don't know where this 30k zeny chip came from. I also find a towel, and I distinctly remember wishing that I had brought a towel.
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No. 810028 ID: a48186

That doll is probably a tracking
device. I'd assume that the other neumono in your hive gave you the other stuff.
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No. 810030 ID: 91ee5f

>>810026
Do you think.....maybe your hive knew that you were planning on running? You ordered these items over a phone, so they couldn't have picked up on your empathy.

>Plush of Queen
Your hive must've snuck that in as a good luck charm or as a reminder that they support the decision you made.

>30k zeny chip
Your hive probably thought that you'd need some extra money to help you along. A lot of extra money.

>Towel
Your hive knows your habits well enough that they figured you'd forget to keep yourself clean or you'd forget to bring a towel of your own.

>>810028
That's also a possibility. But, just in case it's actually from Likol's hive and not a tracking device, can we check the plush without ripping it open? Because if it turns out to not be a tracking device, I'd like to keep it in one piece and only rip it apart as a last resort.

Also, if it was a tracking device, then Vanski's men would've found and captured Likol by now.
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No. 810035 ID: e94191
810035

Are you dreaming somehow? Maybe you got drugged.
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No. 810036 ID: 2b0a30

>>810028
There's no need to track Likol if you can guess exactly where he's going anyway. This will end with Likol meeting Arza only to find out Vanski's goons have been waiting there for him the whole time, because that's ridiculously easy to predict.

The smart move would be meeting with Az instead, Vanski will never see it coming.
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No. 810037 ID: 91ee5f

>>810036
I think getting to meet the Ultraking is harder to do than meeting up with Arza.
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No. 810041 ID: a363ac

bisect the plush for any tracking or camera equipment. once you find a needle and some string.
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No. 810042 ID: 0d45a9

>>810026
Dawww, that thing is kinda cute. If you're worried about it being a tracker, compress it / feel it rather than tear it apart. For a longer range tracker you probably should be able to feel it through the surface / feel that there's something inside it.
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No. 810046 ID: d36af7

Paranoia says you've been compromised by a predator at some point. Towel and sentimental plush contain artfully concealed tracking devices (maybe radioisotopes with distinctive gamma-ray emission profiles, so there's nothing out of the ordinary above the scale of dust and no device to disable?), while that credit chip will alert Vanski (possibly via standard banking network fraud alerts) the second you try to use it for anything.

Tie the suspicious items together in a bundle and leave 'em at the bus stop where somebody's likely to find 'em. When they get picked up by some other traveler and carried along on a bus, Vanski will think he's got you.

Then, head somewhere else, off-road.
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No. 810050 ID: 3ce125

Keep the gifts. If one of them was a tracking device then it's not being used to catch you.

Move to the side of the lumber area, near the lit building. That's your greatest chance for getting within wireless range without getting within empathy range.
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No. 810052 ID: 84ac62

If you feel lonely or need advice, it's possible for you to fire up your laptop and talk to the CAI. Plus, they may not be able to hide out long-term, but they could help you out with any computer systems you run into.

Now, let's be clear. These things have definitely been added to what you have after you left? They certainly weren't added into what you were given by your hive and you're only finding out about them now? If so... well, my bet is someone found you while you were sleeping. If someone in Vanski's group were able to control Predators, you guys would know about it since you're neumono scientists and your empathy would be essential to any proper study, even assuming it wasn't yourselves being experimented on. I assume you've slept at some point.

If someone came on you while you were sleeping, or even if somehow a Predator was involved, then they were in a position to capture you and didn't. For now, at least, they want you free, for whatever reason. Plus I doubt anyone but your hive would have thought to give you a towel, much less the plush. Give it a few squeezes to see if anything's inside, but if you don't find anything, keep it. Even if Vanski's involved, remember, for some weird reason of his own he wanted you to take the CAI. Probably some scheme to limit his rivals' power or something, so publically (to them) he'd be making a show of looking for you, while privately hoping you escape. Something like this would be within range of his escape-hope plans, if it has anything to do with him in the first place.
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No. 810070 ID: 015058

Likol is there any vague chance that you are strapped to a chair somewhere in the spire with some hallucination gas pumped into the room and some VR goggles strapped to you? Because finding stuff you "wished" for in your bag out of nowhere is a sign that something very wrong is going on.

Remember when we said that if Vanski was secretly urging you to escape it was part of some giant crazy plan? And that he would never ever let something as expensive as the Cai blocks go wandering out into the jungle untracked where some monster might eat you and them?

So I see a few options for what is going on.

1. You have not escaped at all and are wandering around in the spire drugged while Vanski watches you to see what you do with the Cai. A extended loyalty test if you will.

2. Everything you have on you is bugged. Radioactive markers in the simpler stuff. Tiny radio tags built into the frames of everything else. He will know where you are at all times and is just watching to see what you do.

3. Vanski knows you are going to Arza because of course that's what you are doing. All he has to do is have a few bodyguards following Arza to wait for you.


Honestly if any of this stuff is even close to true there is little you can do about it now. Even if you threw away everything on you there would still be the Cai and charging equipment that could be tracked. (Plus you would be naked with no supplies)

So lets assume this is a giant loyalty test and keep going. Do your due diligence and inspect your strange new items. Then continue on as planned. Try your best to get to Arza but never do anything that would betray Vanski or his organization during your trip.

For now scout out the lumber mill to find when and where the trucks leave. Hide out on the side of the road out and wait for a truck to pass. Then jump on the back/undercarriage and hide. If while doing that you can get on the site wifi do so. But only look up general news and weather stuff (Maybe some alien porn to make it look like you are a alien to anyone scanning ip records). Nothing that would look suspicious for a random lumber yard driver to be searching for.
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No. 810073 ID: 3abd97

>>810026
Okay. Let's consider possibilities.

1) Your hive packed some extra stuff into the supplies you asked for you're only finding now. (If you've been in the woods for days now though, it's unlikely you wouldn't notice something in your pocket the whole time).

2) The stress is getting to you. You're starting to go crazy from isolation and loneliness and the ridiculous pressure to save the entire universe of souls on that CAI drive. As a result, you can't trust your own memories- you blacked out and forgot where you found that zenny chip, or that you made a doll for companionship.

3) You ate something you shouldn't have. It induced a blackout, or left you drugged, and there's now a hole in your memory.

4) You crossed paths with a predator or something like one out here, and lost some memories / had a blackout in the process.

5) You suffered an injury that damaged part of your memory, including the memory of the injury itself. (Not impossible with distributed brains, but the odds against this is ridiculous).

6) None of this is real. You're hallucinating, or dreaming, or in a simulation. (Problem is this is very hard to test for).

>what do
Feel up the doll, and/or goggles scan it. See if there's anything inside besides stuffing. (Don't tear or cut it up, yet).

If you have any logs on your electronics, or camera recording capability on your goggles, maybe it's time to go through those? Maybe you can find something you don't remember happening, or figure out when or where the blackout was.

How long have you been out here, anyways?
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No. 810095 ID: bfb318
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810095

I can imagine no way that my hive would have known I was planning on something. I was isolated from them.

It's possible that I was sent the Quokko plush just as a sentimental item while I was alone, and a towel is more of a stretch, but possible that they just decided I needed it. But, extra zeny would have been worthless to me if I stayed in the cave. That, and I'm certain these items weren't here when I left. I meticulously had to pack everything into trash bags due to having to submerge myself into water.

There's the slight chance that the plush is bugged, but... they could have bugged other things. I would have been found and captured by now, if they wanted to. I've been out here for at least 4 days. Let me check... no, 7. 7 Days? That doesn't seem right, but that's what the clock says.

I feel around the plush to see if there's anything obvious, but I don't want to slice Quokko open. On a closer look, I do find a small strip of paper that's been slid underneath the plush's coat.

'Don't worry about us. Good luck getting to Arza.'

........ Unsettling. It's in Quokko's handwriting. Let me think.
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No. 810096 ID: bfb318
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810096

>Predator
I can't rule this out, since apparently there's also been 3 days of travel that I can't remember. And my urge to go to Arza... it's high. It could just be the stress of this whole situation anyway, and desperation to pass it off to someone who would know what to do about it. The urge is understandable, even if it would be too easy for OPA guards to just place themselves by Arza.

>Gas hallucinations
If we've learned to weaponize hallucination gas, it's news to me. This feels too real. Maybe I can't rule this out either, but... given a few painful situations I've been in, and everything, I have no idea what I'd do about it if this kind of paranoid thought was true.

>Lonely and isolated
I'd be surprised, even if it's been a full week apparently, it's not as though I haven't been separated from my hive before. It's still possible I'm just losing it between loneliness, stress, and so on.

>Suffered major injury
This is the only thing I can rule out completely. It's possible to get mentally loopy due to a bad injury, but the injury would have to be so bad that I would be in much worse physical shape right now.

I'll look through my electronics for any activity logs. My goggles have recording capability, but it doesn't look like there's been anything... er... these are different goggles. It's a newer software model, made 8 days ago. There's still no photographs or videos on it at all.

I get closer to the lumbermill to get in probable range of a wifi, and open my laptop. There is a message taped to the screen. Something spilled... uhhh... there's dried blood all over this thing.

I sit here for a moment. I don't know why, but I just want to stop moving. I'm snapped out of it by the sound of a revving truck.
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No. 810103 ID: 015058

Well something bad happened. Something big. I would drop the Arza plan for now and just try to get somewhere safe and private in civilization so you can figure out what is going on.

I sort of want to take that note off the laptop and then dump the laptop and goggles right here and now. But they might have clues to what happened to you? If you had some tin foil you could wrap them up to block any signals.

As for the plush and handwriting you can't trust it's actually from your hive. You can't trust much of anything right now. Its highly likely that your memories have been tampered with in some fashion.

Think long and hard before you make a run for that truck. Can you afford to wait a day and scout out there camp more? Or is food enough of a issue that you need to go now?
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No. 810106 ID: 87547f

Is that your handwriting?

Ok a few theories>

1. This is not real at all.

2. You got hurt really bad while escaping the spire. Vanski's men found you and healed you and dropped off a few mementos. Or your Hive found you and healed you and left the notes and stuff.

3. You got hit by a predator at some point and who knows whats going on.

4. Some other combination of very dangerous and paranoia inducing events.

Honestly regardless of whats going on you need to continue onward and search for clues as you go. Not straight to Arza of course but somewhere safe with easy access to food and tech.

Once you have a free moment you need to strip and inspect your entire body for wounds you don't remember. I would probably throw that laptop away or at least remove its battery while you travel. Throwing it keeps you safer but bringing it along lets you inspect the internals at a later date. Goggles are also suspect. Plus the Cai blocks. They might not even have the real Cai anymore inside there.

We might as well see if hiding on the truck is workable. Pack up and get closer so if a alien is driving you at least have the option of jumping on. But don't let the situation dictate what you are going to do. Its better to wait for the next truck and do it right than blindly go now without a plan.
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No. 810107 ID: 84ac62

Ok, first thing, quickly stow your items and go look at that truck right now. It's possible that it's some open truck and this is exactly your chance to hop on board and catch a ride, maybe by jumping right on, maybe by climbing a tree over the path it'll take and dropping onto the roof as it passes. Take in the situation, decide and act swiftly.

After that... alright, it still stands that whoever did the thing to you, they don't want you captured. Going to Arza makes sense, he's the only person outside that you know, would help you, and more importantly would help the CAI. Having agents near him is unfortunate but expected and just something you'll have to think around. So that plan's still on, and whoever gave you these things and left these notes is probably your friend, or at least your ally of the moment. Whoever they are they aren't the silhouette empire and their lackeys, which is good. You can trust that, at the very least, these items won't get you captured any time soon.

It's theoretically possible that you stupidly wandered into a predator at random and Vanski had to have you secretly rescued and sent on your way again. Which would be embarrassing. Less embarrassing would be if he caught up with you, secretly gave you some extra help (with your hive's assistance) and used a predator to erase your memory so you can't say he helped you if you're caught.

As for the laptop, you were supplied by yours by Vanski's group, right? It probably came with some sort of tracker or simple AI spy or something to begin with, and is programmed to raise an alert if it's ever brought outside anyway. The note is warning you. I don't suppose you recognize he handwriting? Anyway, it just says don't connect it to anything, so you can still use it if it has nothing to connect to. When you have a moment, check the other laptop as well.

Also when you have a moment, pat yourself and your clothes down.
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No. 810114 ID: 3abd97

>Do not let this laptop connect to anything
Is that your handwriting? If not, do you recognize it? (You don't even have a pen in inventory!)

Can you tell by the smell if that's neumono blood?

>It's a newer software model, made 8 days ago.
Do the goggles list the current time and date? Do you know what day it was when you left? (Not that we can trust the goggles clock is right, or your own memories, apparently).

Do you have other means to check the passage of time? Things that are harder to spoof or mess with? Like, how long your claws have grown? How much your eyes have healed since you're not abusing them staring at a computer screen 20 hours a day?

>lumber yard
Come to think of it, isn't this territory outside of ultrahive control? (Or the "warlands" as it's sometimes called, apparently? >>/questdis/69698 ). That means this lumber yard is operating without any legal protection. This may be a criminal operation, or just a hive making a living on their own in dangerous territory, not willing to give up their autonomy. Either way, they have reason to be on guard and trigger happy. Be careful getting close to them.

>what do
I say watch to see what the truck does and where it goes. I don't think we want to risk getting closer now.
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No. 810121 ID: 015058

Don't you have two laptops?
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No. 810166 ID: bfb318
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This message on my laptop isn't my own handwriting, but it's got elements of our common science hive handwriting. Chances are that it was written by a hivemate I seldom talk to. Raush's laptop has a similar message, written by someone else but still with a hivemate's handwriting. There isn't so much blood, there. The blood on my laptop smells like a neumono's, and is days old.

I don't have tin foil or something to hide any possible signals, but the goggles, at least, are a model that specifically does not have wireless capability.

The truck isn't moving right away, so I take another moment to check myself and my belongings.

There are some cuts and scraps, most notably under my left eye, that I don't remember getting, and some wounds that I do remember getting that don't seem to be here, now. While I check myself out and stow my items, I move slightly closer to the mill. In an unregulated zone like this, a neumono hive probably has a small arsenal of weapons for self defense, so I play it extremely cautiously, and make sure not to get in the line of sight of any of those cameras.

They're loading a truck. If I move down the road, I should be able to climb up on a tree and fall onto the back of the truck and hopefully find a crevice to hide in. While I don't need to get out of here now, this may be my best opportunity. I also need to decide if I should even have both of my laptops at all. I do want to keep my goggles. It has the date and time, and is the reason I know how long I've been away for as long as I have. I left April 22nd, if I'm not mistaken. It is now April 29th.
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No. 810169 ID: 015058

Honestly using either laptop is a horrible idea. It's easy to put a program into a computer that will dial home the second it finds a active network. Even worse with a Ai. As for your goggles I would dump them. Just because you think they don't have network access does not mean someone did not upgrade them with one during your memory lapse. Or modify the timestamps.

I would save the laptops if you can take the batteries out. Then we can inspect them later if the opportunity arises. If not smash there hard drives with a rock.

I would get in place for the truck and if everything looks good go for it. If a neumono is on there just think hungry primitive thoughts so they think you are a passing tribal and don't jump on.
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No. 810172 ID: 84ac62

Take both laptops. Raush's has his projects on it, which you should show to Arza so he knows what's what (you might even end up handing it over to the cops at some point), and you want your own to use to talk to the CAI at some point. Whatever's on a modern-tech laptop like yours, it's not going to be a match for the hardware or software the CAI's using.

See, that's a thought I had - neither Vanski or even your own hive knew just how chummy you got with Glitcher. Only a couple of your hivemates even saw a decent part of what he could do. You're the only one who got close enough that you'd both expect him to still be alive after all that, and be willing to trust him to help you. At least, with the laptop, outside range of any wireless connections.

Anyway go climb a tree and get ready to drop on that truck.
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No. 810180 ID: 3abd97

>I also need to decide if I should even have both of my laptops at all.
Remove the batteries so they can't power on by accident, but keep them, yes.

You might want to get a look at the driver before you try to get on. If you're hidden in a log pile you won't be able to get out and away if a neumono senses your empathy.
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No. 810181 ID: 84ac62

>>810180

If I recall, neumono empathy goes a decent enough range. He'd be able to feel one in the truck before it drives under, so he'll be able to choose not to drop down in that case. While a neumono would feel him as well, then, they'd probably just assume he's a snooping tribal. He should feel pretty similar to one after being on the run in the wilderness for a week.
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No. 810182 ID: 3ce125

>>810166
>neumono blood on laptop, missing time, suspicious items
I think what happened is you got caught by Vanski's goons, but your hive stepped in to save you. The blood is from the ensuing fight. They may have wiped your memory so that if you got captured again and interrogated you couldn't say who saved you.
Can you smell your hivemates on the doll? Or any of the new items? OH. Your laptop is what got you caught, before. Of course it has tracking software on it, it's your work computer! That's why the science hive wrote that note for you: so that you wouldn't get yourself caught again. The belenosian's computer is less likely to be compromised, since his organization was separate from Vanksi. It might still have tracking software on it, but it'll alert his organization instead of Vanski's.

The laptop is still useful, though. So long as you don't connect it to anything, you can use it. Oh! You might also be able to use it as a decoy. If you ship it somewhere without posting a return address, or leave it on a vehicle that won't be checked for a day or so, someone will eventually try to connect it to something, and Vanski will send his forces in that direction. If it's on a vehicle they'll check where the vehicle departed from, but by that time you'll have moved on. Optimally you'd use a vehicle that has multiple stops so they wouldn't be able to tell exactly when you ditched the laptop.

You might even be able to use this truck for that. It would be a good idea to hitchhike on it for now, just to keep your movements unpredictable. You don't even know where it's going, after all.
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No. 810185 ID: d36af7

Hop on the truck and bring both laptops, but don't turn either one on until you've mechanically disabled the wifi and blocked the landline network ports with glue or something.

If this is all a hallucination, or you're being tracked by some hostile party with unlimited resources and an unknown objective, you're totally boned, so don't worry about that. Make your way back to civilization, rent ten or fifteen thousand zeny worth of safe deposit boxes at as many different banks as you can find, put the real CAI block in one of 'em, decoys in a few others. Just to mess with some salikai's head, distribute at least half the keys to boxes you're not using for anything important in random other safe-deposit boxes. Finally, take the real one back out and contact Arza to set up a meeting.
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No. 810189 ID: 91ee5f

>>810166
Maybe the messages are not warnings about accidentally setting Glitcher and the other AIs free as soon as you connect to a wifi? Maybe they're warnings about not using the laptops because they can be tracked? If that's the case, then you'd need to get a 3rd completely different laptop before you try to get on the internet at all!

But you should keep them, since they have important stuff on them.
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No. 810327 ID: bfb318
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810327

When the truck drives by, I'll confirm they aren't a neumono driver by usual empathy means. Provided that's true, I'll leap down and keep both laptops.

I keep both laptops, but disconnect the batteries for the time being, and put all the electronics in my padded trash bags. I don't spend long, because I need to find a good section of road. Thankfully, there's only one roadway for a decent stretch of time before it goes to the main road, so I don't need to flip a coin on whether they're going east or west. I also am forced to find a decent stretch of tree that not just can hold my weight while it stretches on the road, but ideally would be in a cluster of trees so that I'm not easily seen over the road on a single branch, and during a bend in the road so that the truck is going much slower while I drop down on it.

I find a decent spot. The branch is dipping conspicuously low, but I don't know if I can find a decent spot that'll avoid that. By the time I get worried about it, I hear the truck coming. It's not a neumono.
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No. 810328 ID: bfb318
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810328

I drop down. If the driver saw me hanging out in the tree branches, then he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it now.

I'm too elated, anyway. This is an open bed truck, but it has a tarp over it. I'm able to slip underneath it between the latch points. I might not be able to see my surroundings like this, but they won't be able to see me with any camera drones.
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No. 810329 ID: bfb318
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810329

There is periodically a light, probably from another car now and then. Even if it's an quasi-anarchist region, this place has been peaceable enough, so it still sees public traffic. I try to hide my emotions, but it's no good. Every time a neumono driver gets behind the truck, they sense a spooked neumono just behind the drivers wheel. By the time they pass us by, they realize I'm in the cargo area.

I have a couple of saving graces, and that's probably the reason why they don't honk at the driver to come deal with me. First, it only takes me a moment to realize that they're not out for science hive blood, but are just regular drivers. So I'm calm enough after the first encounter. The second bit of luck is that I'm sleep deprived, so just as my senses are dulled, so is my empathy. If I was well rested, my panic would be sharp and suspicious.

It's surprisingly warm in here. I guess the engine heat is somehow coming through and getting trapped in the tarp? I don't know, maybe it's just the lack of wind. I manage to find myself a gap in the wood, where I can lay down. It's comfortable, I think that...
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No. 810331 ID: bfb318
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810331

>"Likol!"

Quokko comes up to me. Her body language is calm, but I can feel her mental excitement nonetheless. I remember this. I came back after a long time spent traveling. The thought of going rogue didn't even cross my mind, or any of my hivemate's heads.

>"I can't believe you stayed gone for that long! We didn't change our usual hideouts."
"I had to see what else was out there. It's not just forest!"
>"And I can't believe you're alive!"
"The more you know, the less dangerous it gets. I even met hives that didn't want to kill me."
>"Now I know you've lost it."
"No. I'm serious. Here, I have pictures. Oh, you know how we've wondered what was over the western mountains?"
>"Yeah, this... is a picture of that? It's just... rock. Is it safe?"
"Maybe from predators, but we couldn't live there. It was hot and there was no shade anywhere. Do you remember the ocean? This was an ocean of dust and rocks. It's not any paradise, like some of us imagined."
>"Those were idle daydreams, no one seriously thought there was a paradise out there conveniently just out of reach. This place... not even the caves are so lifeless. We have to make do here. We've found a possible ally, you know. Not a neumono hive, of course, but a salikai."
"Salikai...?"
>"Don't take that tone. Their reputation was also born from idle daydreams. From our enemies, no less. The salikai's name is Vanski. Do you want to meet him?"

I've gotten good at telling when I'm dreaming, but usually my dreams don't just play back memories like this. Then again, something's off about it. Something simple and constant.
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No. 810332 ID: 3ce125

>>810331
You don't have your goggles. Is this cave supposed to be grey? You were in purple caves in more recent times.
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No. 810336 ID: 84ac62

Play along with how the memory goes, for now, and it should be easier to spot where something is wrong with it.
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No. 810342 ID: 91ee5f

>>810331
Quokko looks like she's fatter and her boobs look smaller. Is that what's off? Had to go back to Thread 15 to find another picture of Quokko in order to try and spot any differences. Then again, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about what's supposed to be "off" about this memory.

>>810332
Those don't count since they happened after meeting Vanski.
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No. 810344 ID: 3ce125

>>810342
Well in that case I'd expect either empathy or smell to be wrong.
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No. 810348 ID: 486e87

>>810342
Quokko's behaviour / speech seems off as well. The way she dismisses Likol's concern about allying with a salikai runs counter to Likol's comments on the photo in thread 10 (>>581933). Also here it's implied that Quokko's already met the salikai due to knowing his name, but the thread 10 photo doesn't mention that and Vanski is only mentioned by name later in the thread 11 photo (>>583566), which implies the opposite.
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No. 810354 ID: 3abd97

>>810332
If this is from the time of Likol's photography trips, lacking goggles makes sense. There weren't any in the pictures.

If this is Likol's first meeting with Vanki, he's supposed to be impressed by Likol's camera (and try to get some shots of him and arkot minions that refuse to hold still). And Vanski introduces some common sense tools to the science hive they never thought of (seriously, they invented a camera before the wheelbarrow).

I agree that something looks a little off about Quokko.

Who's your hivemate in green, there? That's not a common color in your hive. You're mostly browns and pinks.
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No. 810359 ID: bfb318
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810359

My goggles are missing. Of course they are, though, this was decades before the aliens even knew that neumono existed.

The cave looks fine. We've hid in purple caves before, but also grey ones. We liked to stay in one spot, but due to a variety of factors, constantly found ourselves on the move.

Quokko's figure fluctuated now and then based on diet and exercise. My memory seems extremely detailed here, but even then it may have minor inaccuracies. I doubt I somehow remember precisely what Quokko looked like, so long ago.

>"Is something wrong?" Quokko asks, picking up my unsettled thoughts. I realize now, it's not something about the dream, and not even something about the memory of this event, but this event itself that felt off.
"I thought this happened before... or later, or some other... wait, you said Vanski. Did he reveal his name to you?"
>"No, he hasn't." Quokko seems confident in that, but I've put it in her head, at this point, that something is off. She's thinking about it, now.
"So how do we know his name."
>"... I guess we just do? Maybe..." Quokko and the rest of the hive trail off. I still remember this point. We caught ourself in some kind of error. Not even now, in my dream remembering this, do I remember how long this silence went on for, but then Quokko realizes something odd, something that might have been the thing at the back of my head.
"Also, why do I already remember him being impressed with my camera? There was something about us never having thought of a wheelbarrow, too."
>"Yeah... I remember the wheelbarrow. It was so stupidly simple, how did you manage to invent a camera before that?!"
"To be fair, I only managed it due to biological materials that mimicked film, it's not like I managed to make industrial grade film out of nowhere."
>"True, but... wheelbarrows were so stupidly simple, easy to think of, yet not surprising that we never thought of them since sometimes the simplest issue is...."

This is when she turned back towards me to speak, just as she is doing in the dream now.

>".... Likol... you had a perfect mental image of the desert like in that photograph, but your real picture of it was absolute shit because of the harsh lighting. But more than that, don't you think we're talking a little weird?"
"What do you mean?"
>"I mean that in this day and age, what the hell were we doing speaking english?"
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No. 810360 ID: 3ce125

>>810359
Son of a bitch. Vanski kidnapped your entire hive and fucked with your memories to make you think it was a voluntary arrangement, but it was never like that.

See if you can recover the true memory of how your hive met Vanksi.
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No. 810365 ID: 3abd97

>"I mean that in this day and age, what the hell were we doing speaking english?"
...it would appear this dream or memory has broken down, yes.

If you're recognizing and identifying things that are wrong faster than I am, instead of floundering when I break from the script, that suggests you're really you, and not a character in my dream or memory.

Which is bad, because if I fell asleep in the back of a moving truck, there's no way I could be dream sharing with you.

Well that, or I think you're smarter than me, so my brain is putting all my good ideas in your mouth.
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No. 810366 ID: 015058

Pretty sure we somehow independently invented it in a crazy leap of co evolution with a alien species that has not arrived on our planet yet.

Anyways now that you realize the oddity of the situation where do we go from here? I would tell you my story but am not so sure talking about it out loud is a good idea.

I was getting paranoid earlier but at this point I am starting to think that I am drugged up floating in a tube possibly. That or a well trained predator is hiding nearby and we all are drugged.

Give her a hug and tell her you love her. Never know if you might miss the chance later.
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No. 810367 ID: 486e87

This very much reminds me of the hallucination gas in the intermission, especially by making Quokko more lucid by pointing out errors.

This seems like a collective lucid dream. Quokko, were any of our hivemates working on something that could induce that?
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No. 810370 ID: 1e7aa8

Likol, this isn't real. You've been compromised and need to wake up/recognize it, Likol.
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No. 810372 ID: 91ee5f

>>810359
Hey, that's right! This was before your tribe got uplifted! You should still be speaking in your tribal language, since none of you have learned english yet!
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No. 810374 ID: 4546ab

Well Likol that proves you were right to be paranoid. You got caught escaping the spire (or before that). And now Vanski or someone is messing with you for who knows why. The chances that this is a odd dream on a lumber truck is pretty low.

So thus the list of possible mind fuckery.

1. This is some crazy extended loyalty test?

2. Vanski is trying to erase the memories of the Cai stuff so you calm down and get back to work?

3. They gave up on the science hive (or just you) thinking you are treacherous and are just using you as experiment fodder now?

4. Some other silly mind game that a crazed alien with almost no empathy would think is somehow reasonable?

Well discuss things with your queen and try to clear the fog from your head. Then go meet Vanski because that is where things seemed to be headed before you woke Quokko up.
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No. 810408 ID: bfb318
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810408

"Where are we?"

Am I honestly feeling Quokko's empathy, or do I just think I am through the dream and memory? I can't tell.

"Hallucination gas?"
>"We've been developing the idea, but are no where close to what this is, Likol. So unless our ideas were taken and ran with, but... it's not just a hallucination. It's modifying and scrambling our memories. If it's a hallucination gas, then it's not working right at all."
"It could be, considering it's hardly in the concepualization phases. Did we ever really meet Vanski the way we thought?"
>"Are we being tested on now?" asks another hivemate. Korli? No, she won't be born for years.

Behind me, there are several other hivemates which died long ago. Their empathy is weak, and closer to what I remember rather than what is, but there's still something familiar and convincing about it.

This isn't right.

"I fell asleep in the back of a moving truck a minute ago." I try to say.

And I start to say it. But by the time I get to the word 'back', my sentence seems to transform from something I feel myself saying, to some voice in the back of my head.

What I actually say 'out loud' is different.

"I fell asleep, with Rihhin."
>"That's not right. Let's back u - wait, no, that's the trap!"
"Let's back up."
>"No."
"I love you, Quokko."
>"I know and same back to you, so stay here and do not back u-
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No. 810409 ID: bfb318
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810409

.... what that was, I do not know. The realness of that makes me question the reality of this. Dream or not, that's how I remember it, but my conflicting memories are... still more or less there, and about as legitimate.

Right now, I'm in the truck.

It's daylight.

I sense a couple of other neumono.

>"Hey, mister!" I feel someone nearby yell. "You know you got a stowaway on your truck?"
>"When the hell?" I hear an alien voice say. "Wait, is this a prank?"
>"No sir!"
>"Well if I'm not getting pranked, then the guy in my truck better get the hell out right now." the voice says, hitting the side of the truck.
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No. 810412 ID: 395c02

Well, don't press your luck, I guess. If they know you're in there there's no sense trying to hide.
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No. 810413 ID: 3abd97

Well, until you know what's real, you have to treat everything like it could be. You can't do something that gets you killed or gets the AIs in your care killed just because you think it might not be happening.

Looks like we're bailing on our ride, here.
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No. 810414 ID: 3ce125

>modifying and scrambling memories
Can well-trained predators do that? I'm guessing the "trap" was that if you tried to think further back in your memory it got to change deeper memories. That's what "back up" meant, right? Or maybe this is some kind of experimental nanomachine technology to modify memories as you sleep. You need to get hit with some anti-nanomachine stuff.
If Vanski is expecting the nanomachine tech to rewrite your memories to his advantage, maybe that's why he let you escape. It's a field test.

Anyway, do what the driver says. Get out and make a run for it, but see if you can do it on the other side of the tarp so they don't see you.
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No. 810415 ID: 015058

Well get out of the truck and find out how far you got.

As for your dreams? No idea what is happening yet. Something is messing with your head though. The question is are you being manipulated by someone or something? Or did you just suffer a major unknown trauma and are brain damaged?

Was the back up thing just part of your dream because someone is yelling at the truck to back up? Or could it have been something important? Normally backing up would be in reference to some data? Possibly something involving the message on your laptop?

Also did you choose to hide your truck story in the memory or were you forced to?

I think you need to take some time and meditate on stuff to figure out what is up with your head. Once you find a safe spot to hide that is.
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No. 810422 ID: 4546ab

We are getting into realms of paranoia that are unhealthy. If your head is being actively messed with there is little we can do about it right now. Especially if its something like predators or advanced tech. Right now your biggest concern is getting to civilization safely and quietly.

So until you can get solid proof otherwise lets assume that you got hurt badly early on during your escape and someone from your hive found you and helped fix you up. That dream you had could have been your subconscious trying to unscramble some damaged memories.

As for Quokko trying to yell at you to not back something up? Backing stuff up tends to be a computer term. I could mean don't look back or think on older memories but the phrasing should have been different then. Hopefully you might get more clues from your subconscious later.
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No. 810423 ID: 3abd97

The biggest problem with mind control theories is this takes place 4 years prior to Polo's adventure in the spire, which means most of those methods weren't refined or working yet.

Mind control gas? The warship was the first live test. Mind control bugs? Same thing, and the ones in the armory didn't work so great. Predators? Kiiu had just started experimenting with them with Polo's reluctant help when Rokoa killed him, and Three Stripes and Four Stripes were only captured after that. Brain darts or cloning? Again, the process was barely up and going in time for the intermission.

No sophisticated mind fuckery targeting Likol is impossible, but every method we know about doesn't fit the timeline.
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No. 810430 ID: 3ce125

>>810423
This could be an earlier version or attempt at mind control nanotechnology. The bugs overcame the neumono's willpower, while in this case something is messing with memory instead. Takes longer to accomplish anything.
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No. 810435 ID: 91ee5f

If you come out of the truck all scared and confused, like you are right now, then your emotions combined with how beat up you look and how torn your clothes are will convince both aliens and other neumono to try get you to a hospital because you look like you've been attacked by something! And you going to a hospital may or may not be a good thing!
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No. 810468 ID: e22b1d

What about brain dart tech? Possibly a very early version of it.

Like the backup that Quokko was talking about was that he got hit with a backed up earlier version of his own cells. Or a mix of cells that they attempted to modify?
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No. 810494 ID: 3f3e63

I think these onlookers should come down with a touch of money-induced memory loss.

As for the weird dreams... too many possibilities. I don't suppose there were any experiments going on with long-range empathy projection, were there? Maybe something that only works with dreaming empathy or in some other limited way? Maybe you really were talking with your queen, there, with the dream getting in the way of talking clearly.

That'd be some impressive tech, though not without potential misuses. You could make some sort of empathy bomb with something like that.
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No. 810513 ID: bfb318
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810513

We have - well, had - various ideas on our plates involving mind control and alteration of neumono. Nanomachines, gas, artificial reverse-jammers, electromagnetic elements, and so on, but everything is so early and conceptual that the idea of it suddenly leaping so far ahead, even if other factions worked on it in secret, seems unlikely.

Vanski, as far as we're aware, doesn't have any predators himself, but... we have studied predators academically even if we never had a real one to experiment with. We suspect that Vanski did want one for himself, and we had a feeling in the back of our heads that there is a predator or two out there that has been captured by someone with ties, direct or indirect, to Vanski. Having the predator itself is the stretch, here, but if there was a predator, it would probably be the soonest explanation.

That, or I was so badly hurt that my memories got messed up, and my dreams are illustrating its corrections. That sounds as feasible as anything. What else... we were studying long range empathy, but that's been put on hold and left to some other OPA espionage agencies, because we think that the ultrahive has developed that technology and is simply holding out due to the ethics and concerns it brings.

I'll wonder more about this, like what Quokko meant by 'back up', because all I can think of that's left is stuff like brain darts, which was brought up by one of our biologist's fever dream.

Right now, it doesn't change my goal. Find Arza. I leave the truck. The alien is a Heef. I don't think I've ever seen one in person that wasn't, well, some kind of soulless mercenary.

As my eyes adjust to the light, I see my surroundings. It's a gas station... combination guard outpost. There's a watchtower, and various armed guards hanging around. They pay me very little mind, since they probably are only there against thieves and marauders.

>"You didn't piss on the wood or chew on it or anything weird like that, did you?" he says.
"No. I only slept."
>"Hey, mister, he lying?"
>"No, he means it, sir." says the same neumono that gave me away.
>"Thanks. Alright, goggles. I've got a minute while I gas up, and I'm curious as hell when and how you managed to hide in my truck. And for that matter, why. Ever heard of hitchhiking?"
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No. 810517 ID: 9c2d0c

..I'll admit the idea never occurred to me. Out alone in the wilderness at night, would you have stopped? I've been lost for days, who knows when I would see another vehicle. I was up a tree, and you were driving underneath, so I just dropped onto the bed. I.. I can pay you for the ride.. where are we?
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No. 810519 ID: e6e9af

>>810513

Psychic neural network made up of neumono subconsciousness.

That could explain what we're experiencing; a system wherein the minds are linked via long-range empathy broadcasting in a manner similar to a predator.

Think of it like this: your memories are playing out like a dream but interposed with reality and things that are or should be happening presently; situations that should not be but inexplicably are. Almost like you're really having this conversation with Quokko in real-time under conditions that, well, frankly should be impossible. You wouldn't need any kind of mind-altering device if you could get neumono brains to dream-share over distance. The only problem here is why.

I'm referring to it as a neural network insofar as that it seems profitable to the Salikai to have a system then can indefinitely grow at little to no cost, which can repair itself,and which is capable of massive parallel computation and communications on the order of super computers -- at a fraction of the energy consumption.

Or we're just growing really paranoid, sleep deprived, and need some real food in us right away. Think they've got gas station taquitos?

>Do not back [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]!

What if ... she means the damned laptop? "That's the trap," after saying "let's back up." The trap is if you connect that damned laptop to anything -- either of them -- we set lose ... something.
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No. 810520 ID: 91ee5f

>>810519
>What if ... she means the damned laptop? "That's the trap," after saying "let's back up." The trap is if you connect that damned laptop to anything -- either of them -- we set lose ... something.
Glitcher and friends would be set free maybe? But if that's it, then wouldn't that be a good thing since we're trying to save them from Vanski?

Maybe she meant the laptops would send out a signal the can be traced? Or maybe the laptops would self-destruct? I don't know, this is all hurting my head!
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No. 810521 ID: 486e87

Say your were operating off adrenaline and the idea didn't occur to you. If they think that's odd tell them you were tribal, if they ask why you were out in the woods, well I'm not sure what you could say that wouldn't be either suspicious or unbelievable.

>>810519
This is a good idea, get some proper food and water inside you. Use the cash, not the zeny chip though.
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No. 810524 ID: 3f3e63

You could probably do with picking up some food in the store, but it'd mean more eyes on you.

"Sorry, wasn't sure you'd pick up a random scruffer out on the far roads, so when I heard your truck I climbed a tree and waited to drop down. I didn't want to risk spending more time walking through the wilderness than I had to. Now you mention it, though, mind if I stick with you a bit further? I can spot you for extra food and stuff at stops, to repay you."

Going with this guy to wherever he's delivering his stuff, then hitching with one of the trucks going out from there with the cut lumber, then maybe the same again with the manufactured goods, strikes me as a good way to move towards civilization faster than you could on foot but also in a somewhat randomized way. Your potential routes would be splitting off into a large tree at each stop.

If anyone asks why you're all the way out here, say you're a researcher, but you lost track of where you were a while ago while hiking. If anyone asks what you're researching you can honestly say you're under a kind of non-disclosure.
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No. 810525 ID: 3ce125

>>810513
Hitchhiking is dangerous. Could get picked up by a murderer or something.
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No. 810541 ID: 91ee5f

>>810513
>Do anything weird to the wood?
Normally, I "wood" buy someone dinner first before I did anything weird to their "wood".

No, bad Likol! Quit trying to flirt your way out of this, you suck at flirting! Stop thinking these things before one of the other neumono pick up what you're thinking!
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No. 810543 ID: 3abd97

>because all I can think of that's left is stuff like brain darts, which was brought up by one of our biologist's fever dream.
There's a perverse part of me that's hoping you're being literal and Mirim actually dreamed those up when she was high and/or delirious.

>I'm curious as hell when and how you managed to hide in my truck. And for that matter, why. Ever heard of hitchhiking?
The simple, unflappable approach seems best here.

*shrug* "I heard your truck coming, climbed a tree, and jumped on as you went past.

"As for hitchhiking, well, if I didn't ask, you couldn't just drive past, or say no."

If we're really lucky, he'll let you keep tagging alone. If not, we try to figure out where we are and where to go next.

>I don't think I've ever seen one in person that wasn't, well, some kind of soulless mercenary.
Racist.

Still, soulless mercenaries can have their uses. At least one usually knows where they stand with one. Too bad you can't really outbid OPA, so if you work or travel with any of them, they'll eventually be given a chance to turn you in for a paycheck.
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No. 810561 ID: 015058

(watch your story while near mr helpful over there. He can point out if you lie.)

Stick to the truth while not going into your backstory.

"I have been lost in the woods for days. I saw your lumber camp and heard a truck revving up. So I jumped on and fell asleep quickly after."

"As for hitchhiking I figured if you saw a strange neumono on the side of the road in tribal territory you would ignore me."

"Um but now that I have the opportunity to ask. if you are going into town I could use a ride?"
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No. 810564 ID: 4546ab

Be personable with this guy. See if we can hitch a ride if he is going into town.

Tell him the simplified truth. You were lost in the woods and had just seen the lumber camp. You were thinking on what to do after seeing the tribal warning signs and made a snap call when you heard his truck start. You ran up a tree and jumped right on and quickly fell asleep.

As for the rest of your story its a long complicated mess. But you might be willing to tell the tale to the first nice trucker who might let you tag along into town.

Basically lure him into wanting to give you a ride. Listening to your story (heavily edited) would probably be a nice distraction during his trip.
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No. 810576 ID: d36af7

As for broader backstory: you were doing some secret cutting-edge science stuff out in the Untameable Needles, very hush-hush, can't talk about the details. You got separated from your hive by some crazy monster and a lot of weird coincidences. So, now you've got to deliver this sack full of bloodstained and no-longer-network-capable electronics, which are themselves full of incomprehensibly priceless scientific data, to a particular Belenosian university professor guy who's probably the only one in the galaxy that knows how to interpret it all, and after that you'll hopefully have the funding and political support to start planning a rescue for the rest of your hive, most of whom might plausibly still be alive somewhere out there.

Accurate in the broad strokes, but omits key details and puts a misleading spin on things.
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No. 810595 ID: 701418

>>810517
This doesn't make sense, Likol's been skirting near roads and frontier towns.

Likol, claim that you've heard stories about hitchhikers getting murdered.
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No. 810661 ID: 9c2d0c

>>810561
Don't mention seeing the lumber camp, that just means we get the question "why didn't you go to the camp" and questions seeking more detail are the whole thing we want to avoid.

>>810576
No lying in the presence of neumono. Unfortunately, that also means no misleading half truths in the presence of neumono either. We just had a whole chapter about Likol trying to do that and it very not working.
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No. 810722 ID: 3ce125

As a last resort you could tell him you're on the run and if you get caught, hundreds of thousands of people will die. This kind of urgent reason will be confirmed by the neumono there. They might even sense that you're understating the danger. In that case they might be driven to help you, or at least keep their mouths shut.
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No. 810728 ID: 930e23

Is there someone on the roof with a rifle?
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No. 810731 ID: 3ce125

>>810728
Yeah there are security guards here.
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No. 810816 ID: bfb318
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810816

>Was it a literal fever dream?
Yes. I believe it was a shared fever dream when our biologists stayed together in a lax quarantine so that the rest of us wouldn't get a fever.

"I dropped from a tree. I didn't think that someone would stop for me if I hitchhiked."
>"So you just did it without asking, huh? Like that'd earn you favors?"
"No, sorry. I've just heard stories of hitchhikers getting killed. If I can keep going with you, I'll pay."

I can't outbid any OPA division, but as long as I'm far away by the time they have a chance to pay this guy off, it's fine.

>"How much you got?"
"I'll pay 500z to let me ride with you today."
>"Yeah, sure. You gonna rip me off, steal anything, or try and fight me at all?"
"No. I just want to get to civilization."
>"Guy?"
>"This guy has more mental baggage than actual baggage, but he's honest, even if he sounds like he's on the run." says the neumono, who's apparently taking it upon himself to help vet me.
>"You wanted by some mercenaries or something? Nevermind, I don't want to know, but outside of letting you ride, I'm not protecting you."
"That's fine."

The neumono detects some hesitancy in me, and I address that.

"That, and a minute in the shop, for some food and water."
>"You get 5 minutes." he says. "Then you can have a ride, and I'll tell you about all the stories about how people got killed because they thought it was better to be a stowaway, rather than asking politely like an upstanding citizen."
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No. 810817 ID: bfb318
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810817

I get some store food. Surprisingly, they actually trade some for my fresher meat from a recent kill. It's not like I'm the only one out here who has stuff to hide. By this point, people who peaceably live and let live most likely have moved to a place protected by an ultrahive.

As we drive off, I eat. The food tastes a bit weird to me, but it's been a long time since I've had real commercial food at a gas station. It is filling, though, and that's what I need.

The heef puts on some music, I think. The instruments sound like they're screeching, and the singer sounds like he's trying to howl to drown out the instruments. The heef is 'singing' along to it with his weird, alien squawks. I'm glad he can't sense my empathy, because he would probably kick me out for how much I hate it.

The only comfort I have, outside the food, being in a vehicle, having amicable company, and being well on my way to civilization, is that this car seems to be much more high tech on the inside than the outside. The GPS has updating traffic conditions based on a mix of active satellite recordings that have an AI translate the visuals into useable traffic data, and nearly all GPS units seem to relay the car's information into one big network so that when traffic jams occur, it's easily detected and alerts drivers coming to that location. He has a coffee maker, too, with a stabilizing cup holder that keeps the bumps from knocking liquid around. We're about 300 miles east of the spire. We must be outside of OPA influence. A decent sized town should be within a handful of hours.

I'd like to know more about this technology, but more than that, I want to sleep. Until last night, I barely slept at all, but I feel like I didn't get any. I won't get any, either, with this screeching.
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No. 810818 ID: 3ce125

>>810817
Ask if he's got headphones, since you'd like to get some more sleep. Well, check his GPS to first find out what direction this thing's headed and exactly where you are. See if you can put more detail onto your map.

When you start napping, curl up in front of the seat with the meal tray covering you. That way nobody will see you in the car from the outside. Spy drones won't either.
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No. 810819 ID: 015058

If you want to not listen to the heef death metal you have to actively work at it. could politely ask if you can get some sleep. Or you could also strike up a conversation which would get the music turned down. Ask him his life story.

Only problem with talking is he will eventually ask your story. And if anyone hears him mentioning he picked up a little nerdy googles guy well that points right to you.

Oh and am going to mention this one last time but you are a huge idiot for keeping those goggles (with brand new tracking firmware even). For god sake at least keep them in your fucking bag. Your entire hive wears those things all fucking day Likol. Makes you instantly recognizable you know.
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No. 810824 ID: 486e87

Kinda lucky this was a truck designed for Heef, the relative proportions and the height of the vehicle makes it much harder for you to be spotted from the outside.

As for sleep, I dunno. Given how strange your dream was last time I'd be tempted to delay sleeping until you're in a confirmed safe location, but you're already sleep deprived which might make you less careful and falling asleep at the wrong time would be bad. So, I'd say try to get some sleep.

>>810819
This is a good point, hide them goggles when you're not using them.
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No. 810830 ID: 91ee5f

I doubt he'd like it if we complain about his choice of music. After all, it's his truck, so he gets to decide what plays on the radio and how loud it'll play. He might turn it down if we ask politely, but I don't see that happening.

>>810824
>Kinda lucky this was a truck designed for Heef, the relative proportions and the height of the vehicle makes it much harder for you to be spotted from the outside.
He's also lucky that his genetics told him to grow up to be a short neumono as an adult instead of becoming a big neumono like his queen! I guess being short has some advantages! XD
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No. 810841 ID: 3abd97

>I want to sleep
You really trust this guy enough to sleep around him?

>I'd like to know more about this technology
GPS is a global network. If you do anything funny with it, OPA resources might see it and connect it to you.

Although, I suppose they are down a CAI now, so they're not going to have a ridiculous bullshit cyber dragnet out for you right now.
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No. 810908 ID: d36af7

Travel's going as well as could reasonably be expected. Don't rock the boat. You don't want the driver to get angry enough to kick you out, or even have cause to remember you and complain to peers. Just put up with a few more hours of sleep deprivation until you reach some credible town, then stumble into a cheap motel, rent a room for the night, and remember to lock the door behind you.
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No. 810912 ID: 9e9eae

Be careful with your estimate of the OPA's influence range. If there aren't that many roads out here, their attention would be focused on the travel routes there are, which would effectively extend it.

Forgive me if I'm underestimating you, but as far as I can gather, you were a tribal, then taken under Vanski's wing, then basically lived in a cave until now, right? So you're not used to a world with travel infrastructure and things like that, your mindset when thinking about travel and escape and capture may still be dominated by old patterns shaped by existence in a wilderness. The OPA, on the other hand, is made up of criminals who have remote bases but also operate under the radar in civilized areas. Their immediate assumption would be needing to watch the roads.

Besides which, consider what the OPA would have focused their surveillance towards. The remoteness of bases like this would have been a security measure in itself to them - they might not have even thought too much about anyone wanting or being capable of going through the wilderness, being comparatively frail and urbanized aliens as they are. They have people they hire for military expertise and security, but the kinds of people they hire for that aren't chosen for their smarts first, and are limited in what they're informed of. They would have been less worried about people escaping from their bases than they would be about people coming towards them - police, investigators, armies. They would have looked at what roads were near them, noted what urban centers they gave access to, and then put surveillance in those centers, where anyone coming to get them would have to start traveling from. They would want early notice of any group who looked like they might be setting out in their direction.

So, watch out for that.
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No. 810949 ID: bfb318
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810949

Damnit, I'm too paranoid to sleep.

I'll put the goggles away. They only help highlight animals, people, helicopters and other things for me if I wear them. Maybe I'll just put them on? Later. Then, can I trust this alien... well, maybe not too much, but if he was secretly someone linked to OPA, then they would already be on their way. Sleeping or staying awake in the truck wouldn't change much.

I have the CAI taped around me, under my clothes. It cannot get robbed without my knowledge.

Messing with the GPS would be fine as long as I don't go registering as a user under my name or anything out of line with a regular driver, but I won't risk it.

"Do you have any headphones?" I ask him.
>"No!" he shouts back over the music.
"... so where do you come from?"
>"My home planet, duh! I'm a veteran like half the people out here."

...

...

>"What, you don't like Heef bands?!"
"I... it's alien. Mostly I just want to sleep."
"Go stuff yourself in that compartment, then! It's roomy enough, and isn't airtight or anything!" he says, gesturing behind the seats to some cargo holds.

It then occurs to me that there are probably small spy drones all over the roads, and I really should not have so freely walked around that gas station. Hiding away in the compartment might be a good idea. It even has a pillow inside.

I'm still able to hear the music while inside the compartment, but it's much better, and good enough that I can fall asleep.
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No. 810950 ID: bfb318
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810950

"Kids, Quokko. They're everywhere."
>"Oh, shut, up, half of them are full adults."
"Tiny, little children."
>"Still true, I guess. Why can't we see them? Goddamnit, Likol... they're fucking with our memories. Our good ones, now."

Our home, which we could virtually call a town. There were over a thousand of us, shortly before our schism, during which we thought we were going right to the top of the world.

"What?"
>"Oh, come on, we've done this 4, 5 times now? You've got to stay lucid with me. They're trying to fix up something, but we're not letting them. We've set them off track going to older memories like just before the schism, which shouldn't have much to do with the present day issues. We've been reconstructing memories we thought we've long since lost, and reconstructing memories that never existed. How did we schism, anyway?"
"We had our departments make their own decisions. It led to - "
>"Fuck that idea, Likol. Do you really believe that? That we're so fragile that we schismed over a disagreement? We second guess ourselves constantly. If we schismed every time we had an internal disagreement, we'd all be rogues."
"You know what they say about hives who enter the 4 digit population. One big disagreement could do it."
>"What was the disagreement, then, Likol? What did we disagree about?"
"I have no idea."
>"Neither do I. It's the single biggest, cataclysmic event that happened to our hive after contact, and we aren't the kind of hive to repress painful memories. So don't you think it's a little weird that we can't remember?"
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No. 810951 ID: e6e9af

>>810950

But what if we ... could remember?

Or maybe the problem is that we never did, we were told that we did, we told ourselves that we did, and we believed it ...?

Wait, we'd remember that, right?

Quokko is the only other lucid mind here. How are we doing this?
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No. 810953 ID: 9d0887

Wait, maybe we're still dreaming, even in our "waking" periods? We keep saying the various mind control technologies are not ready yet, but maybe we're not actually in April, AW 131.
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No. 810955 ID: 3ce125

>>810950
You know what I think? The schism happened because the hive eventually decided to split with Vanski, but Vanski didn't like that and tried an experimental memory-altering procedure on the hive. It only worked for some of the hive, so part of the hive stayed loyal while the other part wanted to rebel. Thus, a schism. The more vulnerable, affected part stayed and got a second treatment to make them forget how the schism happened.
Alternatively, the only way Vanksi would let the hive go is if they used the memory alteration treatment to wipe all knowledge of sensitive information from their minds. Either Vanski sabotaged it so that it didn't work on the most valuable members of the hive, or the hive agreed to only let expendable members take the treatment and leave. It couldn't have been luck or natural resistance since it was obviously used a second time to obscure the reason of the schism. It would've had to be reliable the second time around, and in this scenario the people it *didn't* work on stayed.

...it occurs to me that this could be a great boon in disguise. If you get to Azra and hand him the CAI, you can alter your memories afterwards to hide that fact, or to lead Vanski to a decoy CAI Block. Also, if the brain syringe technology is operational, is it possible a bunch of your hive injected you with themselves to counteract whatever's messing with your memories?
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No. 810960 ID: 9e9eae

I have to wonder... why is this happening now? This is definitely a dream, so let's assume the other is reality. In that reality, you are no longer around your hive. You are not in reach of anyone who can mess with you. Methods for messing with you at range don't exist. Methods for mental alteration this quickly don't exist, yet. Doing something to you in a moving truck would be ridiculously impractical. Any long-range empathy projector would surely be detectable by someone. Any theoretical alterations to your minds would have been more easily made, and more importantly investigated and examined for scientific advances, while you were in residence of the spire.

What's changed, that you're getting these dreams now?

You've left.

What if... what if these are just memories? Memories of previous dreams? Memories of going through a previous process of being mentally altered? A process that wasn't perfect. Something that was done to all of you, together, as it would need to be to a hive. Neumono who are with their hive get kind of caught up with them. Their hive constantly pulls them along the same lines of thought with each other, waking and sleeping. Maybe something was done to you that needs you to be surrounded by your hive for it to keep working. Maybe, now that you've gotten out, that's breaking down and things are resurfacing. The process of some conditioning breaking up may even be responsible somehow for your memory loss and confusion when you first set out. When was the last time you slept without your hive in empathic range, Likol, before you left the spire?
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No. 810973 ID: 486e87

Hmm, given how the last dream ended I think directly referencing what happened while Likol is awake sets off something. So if you have to do so indirectly like saying you're multitasking to explain the lack of lucidity (Since you were awake).

Yes, it is weird. Schisming is supposed to be quite emotional/traumatic and you'd think that'd reinforce any memory of it. I'm thinking something bad happened, something that we've all forgotten.

Why is this happening now, are why is Qukko in your head? Is it possible that your memory of her is strong enough to create a convincing construct of her, or is she actually there?
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No. 810976 ID: 3abd97

Okay, so you got up over a thousand people before the schism. Now there are only "a couple hundred" [spoilers]and you'll be down to 30ish people in 4 years[spoilers]. You lost over half the population in the schism, and/or what happened after?

Can you remember how long ago the schism was?

...can you remember what happened to the half who split away? With all the OPA secrecy, I have a hard time imagining Vanski just let them leave.

>So don't you think it's a little weird that we can't remember?
Yes, it's weird.

Maybe if we focused on some of the people affected, we could remember their specific things, if not the event in general?

>Oh, come on, we've done this 4, 5 times now?
Sorry, this is only the second time I remember this happening. I must not have been lucid enough for the first few.

I'm also missing 3 days in the "real" world, if in fact what I'm experiencing when I'm not with you is real.
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No. 810982 ID: 91ee5f

What if you're in a dream within a dream within a dream and so on?

Every time you're "awake", you're actually asleep and when you fall asleep again, you're just going deeper into another dream!
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No. 810988 ID: 015058

If we forgot its because someone made us forget.

If the schism was about working for Vanski then it was probably his doing. To keep us in line and not loose the whole hive. Which could mean we might have a bunch of dead relatives in a ditch somewhere.

But there is another possibility. Say if it was something we really wanted to forget about. Something that could have destroyed the rest of the hive if we could not get past it. Then maybe it could have been us messing with our own memories to let us forget. Or survive.

Honestly if our memories were tampered with who else would have the tech to do it but our own hive? Sure there are other scientists out there. But we have most likely the most complete set of data on hijacking neumono biology. And the environment to test it.

(Try to avoid talking about your current whereabouts. Seemed to be blocked last time and might wake you up early. Also try to avoid going back in your memories any farther maybe? Your queen seems to be taking the place of your subconscious which is trying to fix these modifications.)
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No. 810997 ID: bfb318
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810997

It's another remembering-dream. Stuff is playing out, and it feels like stuff that I once did, and did decide to do, but isn't stuff that I'm deciding now.

These weird dreams showing up make me wonder if it's because I've left my hive, but... it isn't typical. During our days under the spire, we've had people wander a bit. Before the spire, I've gone away from the hive for such long periods that I'm lucky to still be their hivemate. I slept outside of empathic range just in the couple days leading up to taking the CAI out of the base, too. If it's because I've left, then there's some other factor involved. Something that involves not just me alone, but me now. I can't think of what.

This is the second dream, but I do get the impression there are other moments like this.

"How are you getting lucid?" I ask, or asked, Quokko.
>"With help. Sometimes, usually you, say something that doesn't fit, at all. Then I bring the pieces together. I've been clinging onto you while being lucid. I can't remember why, either, but more importantly is the schism."
"It is weird we can't remember the schism. yeah. Can we think of specific people who were affected?"
>"I remember... they were called off to another portion of the base. They stayed there, for awhile, supposedly doing some work with Vanski, or if not him, then a kid of his or his wife. We don't know. Then we..."

>"Did we ever see them again?"
"I don't think we did. You left to go see them again, didn't you?"
>"Yes, but then I... came back here."
"Did they already schism?"
>"No. I don't know. I just decided... not to. I just decided not to check on them after all, like I knew they were gone already."

>"That was it. That was the end of that, we declared them gone, and we moved on."

"What happened to them? Vanski, and anything involving an OPA base, wouldn't have just let them leave."
>"I don't really care personally, but I don't really want to know, either."

>"... we got an awful lot of funding out of nowhere after that, though, didn't we?"
"Yeah, we did."
>"No, no, no. I mean, yes, we got funding, but I absolutely know that I checked in on the schism'd hive! I didn't just walk over, go 'nevermind', and walk back. That's not right. Let's back up."
"Yeah, let's back up.

I don't want to do that.

>"Something seems wrong? Whatever, let's back up."
"Let's."

Damnit!

>"Yeah. Let's remember it right, next time."
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No. 810998 ID: bfb318
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810998

I'm awake.
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No. 810999 ID: 87547f

>>810988

This seems like a interesting take on things. While it could be way off the mark is worth pondering.

So the hive schism happened years and years ago right? Back far enough that you would not have access to the more advanced tech that has appeared since then. So if this memory editing stuff is a hive wide thing (and not just something that is just happening to Likol post escape). Then how was it done?

Yeah you could use all sorts of memory editing tech but it would be horribly imperfect and you would all have noticed more gaps before now. And if a predator had done it then why does Vanski not still have that predator? If he had a tame predator then most likely none of this cai nonsense would have happened due to you all being predatored.

So what if your hive was going along with the memory changes? Or doing it to yourselves even? Some of the most powerful memory altering you can do to a neumono is by making there whole hive believe really hard.

Could it be that the schism never happened? That there was some horrible event and you lost half your hive in such a painful manner that you all repressed it so hard you forgot as a group? Probably some nastiness involving your relationship with Vanski or the outside world?

And maybe you are dreaming about your queen trying to fix your head because you are away from your hive and the group denial that did this is wearing off?
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No. 811002 ID: 3abd97

This sounds less like a schism and more like a culling.

How long were you out? (Assuming we can trust our tech, which we can't).

If "back up" is they keyword that boots you out / messes with your head... maybe we need to say something that sounds like the opposite? ("Move on", "forward", "go ahead", "front down" etc).
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No. 811003 ID: 015058

You backed up and that reset the loop. She warned you about that last time. Next time you are dreaming watch for that. This has probably happened a few times now. It might take a few more dreams but you are getting closer.

What if that part of your hive is still around? What if they are working on other more "evil" tech and that's the schism? They were willing to work on more horrible things and you were not? What if you or her did visit and you found out what they were working on and disowned them?

That or it was the team trying to save Vanski's wife? He killed them all after they failed and then made the rest of you forget?

Anyways ponder on it later. Right now you should check the top of your head for a deep bone wound. Possibly a circle right in between your ears just to the right of the center of your skull. Even with your regen if you did get hurt there should be a sign of it as the bone needs time to heal.
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No. 811008 ID: e6e9af

>>810998

Oh hey, you do the same thing I do. Err ... we do.

... I do.

Well, trapped in a mental loop in a dream state, so it's definitely on your mind, not like you'd ... forget. Sounds like whatever's going on, you can't go backwards?

Wait, can you even recall what that conversation was? Is it possible to remember what should have happened before you spoke with Quokko?

She says she stays lucid because of things being out of place or out of keeping with the dream. So does that mean this is just some crazy dream (and maybe not even shared) and we're along for the ride until we decide to do otherwise?

>I don't want to

Or maybe someone's tampering with our empathy and it's only working when we're passed out in the middle of nowhere.

.. I mean, there's also the option that we're crazy. Well, that you're crazy.
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No. 811010 ID: 91ee5f

>>810998
Listen carefully. Has the truck stopped? Is the music still playing? Can you get out of the compartment?

You left your bag in the passenger's seat didn't you? Let's hope the driver didn't go digging through your bag while you were sleeping!
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No. 811018 ID: bfb318
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811018

I listen for a moment.

My goggles say it's 2:07 PM. The truck is still moving. Music is playing, but it's closer to what I would call music. My bags are still with me.

Quokko, in the dream, mentioned Stirra, Vanski's wife. That checks out. The schism was... it's fuzzy, but I want to say at least a couple of decades ago. Stirra died just november of last year, a little over 6 months ago.

I have two memories of that conversation. The one that the dream represented was clearly wrong and mangled. The other one was much more benign. We simply reflected on how far we've come, even if we could have had better partners than Vanski.

There wasn't a will for us to 'back up'. Neither of us wanted to, but then we felt a need to.

>Could it be the schism never happened, and was a culling?
I don't really want to imagine that. I know so little, though, that I just don't know.

If there was an attempt to rewrite my memory, it obviously was an unclean procedure. Now I just have more memories. Which, to be fair, that's already more success than the tech I'm aware of. The only theoretical reliable means would be a predator, and I would still be surprised if Vanski managed to get one, especially recently, despite his attempts. He is effectively in charge of OPA-3, though, and I have heard of an OPA-8 before. If there's 7 other places like mine, then there might be a predator involved. Training one to do any kind of good job, though, is a different kind of story.

My head aches, come to think of it. There was a wound on it earlier that's closed up, but it still feels a little off, like something is in there. My regeneration might be trying to push it out, but I do feel a hard bump just under my fur. I might have a splinter.
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No. 811019 ID: 3abd97

>>811018
So... great. Someone either implanted something in your head, or you tried to hide something in your head. Not good either way.

Probably not a good idea to cut your head open now and bleed all over the compartment. Head wounds are messy.

Are we still moving, or has the truck stopped?
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No. 811021 ID: 486e87

Sub-dermal tracker maybe? Not something to do now but once you're somewhere where you won't piss someone off for bleeding, trying pushing the splinter out the wound or otherwise get it out.

Ideally do this when the trucker has a rest stop or something so the last known location of the tracker (Assuming it is one) is away from where you are.
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No. 811022 ID: 9c2d0c

>>811018
Let's talk about empathy relays again. You said those were in development. How small could those get? Pondering something that kicks on while you are sleeping and causes shared dreams.
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No. 811026 ID: 015058

Once you get somewhere private you can cut it open and see if its just a splinter.

For now listen and see if you are still moving/listening to metal music.

Did you sleep long? Figuring out if someone jammed a empathy relay into your head can wait a bit. Right now you need to keep on moving and saying out of sight.
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No. 811032 ID: 3ce125

>>811018
Okay, new theory. The memories you've got now are from the period where the older memories were being rewritten. The time period is mixed up because of the method being used, it's some combination of a shared dream and memory interception. Vanski caught your hive during a shared dream, or forced one, and somehow hijacked it to modify your entire hive's memories at once by making the entire hive remember what he wanted to modify. Your hive dreamed about an event, but the dream was altered somehow by Vanski to make your hive think there's something wrong with the memory, which makes them "back up" and replay the memory, except then it gets changed even further and eventually the changes Vanski want are applied.

You are only just now remembering the shared dream; the evidence that you have false memories. I believe that whatever this process is, it requires upkeep, so now that you're separated from Vanski's complex you're starting to remember the process. I'm not sure how this relates to the missing time, but it's possible you were being followed and Vanski's goons attempted to administer whatever upkeep was required, at which point your hive coincidentally came across you and interrupted the process?

First, REMOVE THE SPLINTER. Second, stick your head out of the storage area to check on the situation.
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No. 811033 ID: 9e9eae

Hmm. You guys regenerate pretty quick, don't you? If that wound was something actually put inside you, it had to have been put in pretty recently for that external wound to still be there. As such, it's theoretically possible that you received it at the same time as your other gifts from your hive - that note written in blood could even be from when you were opened up.

At the same time, you're scientists, so if your hive put something in there, they'd have known it would get pushed out. Really, anyone with any familiarity with neumono physiology would know it. So if something got put into you, they'd have to know it would come out again. In any case, theoretically, whatever it is might have been put there by your hivemates, at the same time they gave you the doll and (presumably) the money. You might even have put it in there yourself! Assuming that it really isn't just a splinter.

I'm concerned about how you seem to be being forced to replay memories. The way biological memories work, you effectively have to get the subject to recall those memories in order to alter them - in fact, it's normal for memories of events to change a little every time they're remembered. Even moreso for neumono, since your redundant brains would have multiple copies of a memory - any memory alteration effectively has to make you alter your memories yourself. This seems like it could be something trying to do that to you, but... Well, you've been through these dreams twice now, and if anything they seem to have made you more aware of issues with your memory. If Vanski is responsible for this, he's making you less willing to trust or work with him. What's the profit? Follow the metaphorical money. Who benefits from this?
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No. 811038 ID: bfb318
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811038

Well, great, maybe I'm being tracked after all, unless I shoved something weird in my own head and can't remember that, either.

Or something else? I don't know what other tech there would be. On the other hand, other OPA bases may have made huge advancements in any of the other fields. Perhaps empathy relayers? Not in me. Those, in theory, couldn't get any smaller than their jammer counterparts. So, not just would they have had to make functional relayer tech, but make it small enough to fit in my head.

Again, though, these memories and the way that they're being replayed doesn't seem to benefit anyone.

I'd like to remove the splinter, but I don't know how deep it goes. I could ask the driver when the next rest stop is so that I don't risk bleeding over his compartment. We're moving, and between the music and the engine, I can also hear rain. I do have my trashbags with me, though. If I'm careful and I don't just try to wrench the implant out, I should be able to keep my blood either on me or in a bag.
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No. 811039 ID: 3abd97

I say wait. If you try to do surgery on the move, something is sure to happen.

And you lose pretty much any hope of cooperation from your host if you do something as apparently weird and crazy as trying to take your head apart and bleeding on his stuff.
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No. 811040 ID: 486e87

Wait. If you do it at a rest stop and it turns out to be a tracker, you'll have the opportunity to plant it on another vehicle.
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No. 811042 ID: 015058

Well you could lay out your trash bag and towel under you and using your flashlight and toolkit and knife start working whatever it is out. Do you have a hand mirror?

You would get your towel bloody though. Easy enough to ball back up in the bags and clean later.

I would just ask the heef if he minds. There should be a kitchenette back there near the bed with a sink if this is a big rig truck. Say you think you have a nasty splinter/tooth/claw that needs to come out and ask if you can pry it out over his sink.

That being said if its a tracker then removing it in a enclosed cab on the move in the rain is the best time for the signal to be crappy. Then you can save it and toss it in another truck going to another town later.
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No. 811043 ID: 9e9eae

This is not the place or time for self surgery.

Shouldn't your regeneration eventually push it out on its own anyway?
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No. 811045 ID: e22b1d

Don't start digging at it in the bed compartment of a guy who has been rather nice to you.

Go ask if you can dig for it up front. He is a vet and should understand.
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No. 811048 ID: fe7355

The brain-dart tech isn't anywhere near ready, but what if it wasn't miniaturized? You think this could be something like a brain tissue implant based on the preliminary brain-dart tech, just tweaked so it's not trying to take you over? And if so, do you think the tissue donor might have been Quokko, considering how she's shown up every time in your dream?

Do a exploratory cut of the lump to see and feel what is under the skin before deciding if you're going the whole way. That'll be less bloody than pulling it out and you can turn back if you change your mind. And can your goggles display what their cameras see independently to each lens? Because if so, you could put one lens over your eye, then hold up the other lens to view the back of your head and pipe its camera output to the lens you're viewing.
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No. 811051 ID: 91ee5f

>>811038
I'm pretty sure if you try by yourself in a moving vehicle, you'll end up making things worse! For example: The truck suddenly hits a bump and you end up accidentally shoving your knife, or whatever you're using, into your head and then you'd have 2 things stuck in your head!
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No. 811054 ID: 3ce125

>>811038
If you hit a bump it could be pretty bad for you.
...if it's a tracking device wouldn't they have recaptured you by now? Maybe it's something benign. I think you need to get a mirror and look at it better.
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No. 811055 ID: bfb318
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811055

I'll wait. If it's something like a tracker, it's done damage. It'll take a much longer time for regeneration to push it out completely, though, so I should do something soon.

I open the compartment.

"Hello."
>"Rise and shine, kiddo. You'd make a terrible driver."
"I can't see over the dashboard while standing, so yeah, probably."

There must be tech for that.

"Do you plan on making a rest stop? I have to pull something out, and I don't want to bleed in your truck."
>"What?"

I could have worded that better. Oh, I'm wearing my goggles again.

"I mean, it's probably just a splinter from when I was in the forest."
>"Probably? Man, I picked up an oddball after all. There's a rest stop soon, but the next town over's just 50 miles away, so you may as well wait to get off there. I'm already behind schedule. Whole lanes were closed earlier."
"What, when?"
>"Few hours back. No damn explanation of course, so I'm just assuming that they made a traffic jam for fun. Goddamn half the crew was a buncha neumono rubbernecking the traffic as hard as the traffic was rubbernecking them, so it was an amateur run choking the only reliable underpass in the whole damn region today."
"Oh..."
>"You know what? There's a bathroom in back, and it's a bit dirty. If you clean it up a bit, you can use it to take out your splinter. Just don't hog all the water!"

I see the GPS by the steering wheel. It's been about 300 miles and almost 7 hours since I last checked. I don't know this part of the world, but I think that we're in a much more stable, safer region. The town he's talking about, though, I don't think is in proper ultrahive territory.

"I will, thank you."

>What if the brain dart tech wasn't miniaturized?
Miniaturized? There's no feasible way I could imagine that ever working at full scale, let alone get a miniaturized version.
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No. 811057 ID: bfb318
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811057

I go into the back area, using a sliding door I thought was just a big closet before. It's like a small mobile home in here. Like he said, there's a bathroom just to the side. There's even a foldout bed here! I wouldn't want me to sleep it in either though, given my current looks.

The bathroom would only be small by alien sizes, so it's an easy spot for me to work.

I can also use one of my lens-caps to receive input from the other, so I can hold up one lens cap to look over my own head, and its vision will be passed through to the lenscap that I look through. I also poke around some, thankfully confirming that it's something small that I can pull out easily enough, and that it isn't some kind of insane deep skull implant.

This is a moving truck, but I've extracted an animal's tooth that has dug into my shin bone before. A speed bump does not scare me.
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No. 811059 ID: bfb318
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811059

I successfully take it out, and don't like how metallic it feels. After I wipe it off, I take a better look.

It looks like shrapnel?

This color, and its feeling is exactly like the material used in my hivemate's fragmentation grenades.
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No. 811060 ID: 015058

Well that adds another piece of evidence to the "your hive saved you from something bad and left supplies on your knocked out body" theory.

Could a chunk of that in your head explain the odd dreams? Or the shock of getting blown up?

Anyways it looks like those odd dreams saved you from getting found out at the check point earlier. I bet those were opa goons for sure. Set up at the only traffic choke point in the area.

Is your empathy that hidden when you sleep? Or was your dream odd enough to throw people off?

Anyways clean yourself up a bit. Don't use to much water but your damp towel and some wiping would make you look a lot less like a mess. From here on out you need to make sure no pictures of yourself get out. You want the people after you to think you are still inside there blockade. So clean fur and some new clothes will be very important soon.
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No. 811062 ID: 486e87

Worrying, although not as bad as it could've been. Seems to support the theory that your hive intervened on your behalf during the gap in your memory.

Clean up the bathroom a bit like you agreed, then return to the cab.
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No. 811063 ID: 9e9eae

Damn, this just adds to the mystery. I guess you saw some action during the time you've forgotten about. Quickly give yourself a check all over to see if there are any other points of interest.

In any case, be happy you're not being tracked. And that you slipped past a blockade, it seems. That's some damned fine luck that you were sleeping.

You might also ask the driver if he has any sort of wireless-capable computers or things around. Most trucks I know wouldn't, but, yours here might be more advanced. With the (presumed) ubiquity of wireless access of some sort everywhere in a town, this may be your last chance to use your computers without risking them connecting to anything.
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No. 811064 ID: 486e87

Are there any files on your goggles, hidden or otherwise? Maybe whoever replaced your old pair w/ these left a note.
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No. 811065 ID: 3abd97

>Oh, I'm wearing my goggles again.
You never really took them off. They just got pushed down the back of your head while you're asleep.

You should take them off before you leave the truck, since being a neumono in goggles makes you easier to find to OPA people asking questions of witnesses. Damage is done with the heef, though.

>>811059
Well that confirms stuff went down you can't remember.

>Is your empathy that hidden when you sleep?
Sleeping empathy is on a different frequency than waking empathy. You can't sense someone's empathy when they're asleep and you're awake.
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No. 811238 ID: bfb318
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811238

The shrapnel is odd and wouldn't help, but it wouldn't explain weird dreams or my current general state of health. It didn't prevent me from sleeping, too, which was a big help apparently. Trying to get through that checkpoint when my empathy was in a waking state would have been a bigger deal.

After another pat down, I'm not feeling any other weird things on my body. There's a meter showing how much water is left, so I use a small amount of that to wipe down the bathroom, and myself, before getting a change of clothes and returning to the cab.

"Thank you."
>"Welcome."
"Do you have any wireless computers in here?"
>"There's a laptop - why."
"I'd like to look up the town we're going to."
>"Fine, but I'm throwing you out if you look at my search history or start doing anything weird."

His laptop has an extension to get satellite coverage, so I'm able to look on the internet, for once, completely freely and openly. There's a lot I'm curious about, but I stay focused.

The town we're going to is called Power Park, aptly named due to its power plant years ago. It needed protection, so it drew in a military presence. People needed protection, so the military drew in a civilian presence. Now that the region is more or less safe-ish, there isn't much draw to the town, and it's just a place that people live because they don't have anywhere better to be. Half of the industry has transformed to be from people passing through, such as big rig trucks and travellers.

There's a small airport that's barely used, and only exists because of the military force that built it. Public bus travel exists and goes out in every direction, but its reliability is apparently questionable. It's an extremely popular hitchhiking hub, too. There are plenty of cheap places to eat and stay the night. Many places offer phone and internet services on their own, as well.

I also spend some time searching through my goggles. There is a newer changelog that was just a few bug fixes and minor performance changes, but I look deeper through the large directory of files. I skim through them to check anything out of place. There is one file, out on its own, only called 'hugs.exe.'
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No. 811239 ID: 7fad5d

Create a virtual machine and a partition to test hugs.exe.
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No. 811244 ID: e121d3

Make sure you don't have audio on too loud and run hugs.exe.

You should probably check the CAI and its attached systems for damage, too. I'm not sure what you'd be able to do about any such damage, but if some piece of shrapnel pierced one of the seals that makes it waterproof or something, you need to know.
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No. 811245 ID: 3ce125

Do you remember what happened to your ear? One of your ears is shorter than the other.

Don't do anything weird on his laptop. For sure do not run that exe on anything with a wireless connection. Can you check the file creation/modification date? If it's ever been run? Can you decompile it to see what the structure looks like?
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No. 811247 ID: 91ee5f

>>811238
>'hugs.exe.'
Either your hive left a message there or Glitcher somehow connected to your goggles to mess with things in there. And then Alison said to give the file that name! XD
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No. 811249 ID: e121d3

>>811245
>>811239

One would assume the file is meant to be run on the goggles themselves, somehow, so we don't need to fret so much about doing it on the laptop.
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No. 811252 ID: 486e87

Run the program on your goggles, it should be relatively safe as you mentioned that model specifically had no wireless connectivity.
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No. 811254 ID: bfb318
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811254

>Do you remember what happened to your ear?
I don't. It's healed somewhat, so I can't make a judgement on what kind of thing caused the wound either.

I isolate out hugs.exe through partitions and the usual security practices, on my goggles. I also double check that my goggles are incapable of wireless communication. While it's made, I double check the CAI. It looks pristine.

The exe itself has a creation and modification date from just a few days ago, sometime while I was out in the forest. When I run hugs, something shows up on the bottom left of my goggles. Her mouth animates, showing an icon of speakers, so I put the goggle's straps back around my ears.

>"Hi! Thank you for running me. Who is this?" she speaks with a voice that is feminine and artificial. It's uncannily smooth, and the care put into her voice module is probably hindered by the mid-range quality of the goggle speakers.

This must be Alison. Glitcher talked about her. I tap 'Likol' back in morse code. If this program is supposed to be ran on my goggles, it should be able to read that input.

>"Okay, just making sure, thank you Likol. I'm Alison. Not the real Alison that is, but an AI approximation of her with a few changes. My purpose here is to help automate and run actions if you plug your goggles into any standard computer, so that you don't have to. I know you've been through a lot, so I understand if you don't trust me or want to use me. I'm not sapient, so you can delete or cut and paste me all you want, guilt free."
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No. 811255 ID: 3abd97

Well, let's ask the obvious question.

How did she get in there? You didn't install her. Does she know what happened to you?

I mean, not sapient, but she might have relevant records. And the CAI might have pre-programmed her with the answers to questions they thought you might ask.
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No. 811257 ID: 7fad5d

>>811254
Pretty impressive that your goggles can even do a color version of her. I suppose the obvious thing to do is ask her about her origins, but be sure to check the files yourself too, as thoroughly as you can.
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No. 811260 ID: 3ce125

>>811254
Hmm. I bet your ear had a tracking device in it. So, this is what happened: Vanski sent some goons after you with some of whatever technology he uses to wipe and replace memories. I think the intent was to change your mission objective somehow. Your hive sent a taskforce out at about the same time to follow the goons, and you were eventually found, at which point they ambushed the group and took them out. A grenade was involved and you got hit with shrapnel. They removed the part of your ear that had the tracking device, figured out your laptop was compromised as well, left you some gifts, sent you on your way to keep Vanski from immediately recovering you again, then ran off before you came out of your trance. I'm guessing that they left their tracking devices back at the base, and returned in order to continue the act of being loyal and ignorant of your actions. Otherwise they'd have just stayed with you, surely.

Ask Alison if she knows anything that happened since you left Vanski.
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No. 811270 ID: 91ee5f

>>811254
>It's Alison
I fucking knew it! I knew she had to be involved somehow! XD
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No. 811280 ID: e121d3

Hmm. Well, if Glitcher sent her to help you, he might have loaded her with information of what he knew about you. Ask her if she was given any details on the interactions you and Glitcher had. There are theoretically a few things that he would know to mention that no-one besides you would be likely to know.

Alison is an odd choice. Perhaps I'm not remembering right, but you never really interacted with her, did you? Perhaps Glitcher mentioned her, but I don't recall him talking much about her. She would have been mentioned in his (well, the previous version of his) recorded conversations with the other AIs, though, and you know her by reputation as the "generosity anomaly". That might have been enough for them to think she would be a good choice for setting you at your ease. Or perhaps they just like her face and think you would too, who knows.

Anyway, check what proofs she might have of her authenticity and then ask her if she knows anything about your missing days and the various mysteries going on. The meaning of those notes, especially.
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No. 811286 ID: bfb318
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811286

Alison is an odd choice at first glance, but then I realize that the only AI I interacted with much was Glitcher, and he was pretty darn protective of his individuality and image. He probably wouldn't want his image to be replicated like this if I understood him right, but I could be wrong.

"Do you know what happened after I left Vanski?"
>"Who? I'm sorry, I was just activated right now."
"You don't know anything? How did you get into my goggles?"
>"Hmm... If you didn't put me in here, then I'm curious, too! We have some hints, though. From what little I know, I was made by an AI, from an existing AI. That puts me in a strange legal position, and it's possible my makers didn't want me to say too much. I'm talkative, so if I knew too much, I'd say too much! To you, that is. I'm designed only to be fully open to the goggle's owner, and people who the owner tells me to be fully open towards. I have very high security measures built in, but it's still possible for me to get hacked if I fell into the wrong hands. You can make adjustments to me or the program, if you like. Personality adjustments, display options, or just change personalities to a whole other person, but that's a test feature and there's no guarantee your choice will be all that cooperative. If you need a third opinion, though, then it could be useful. Oh, also, there's also a little note in my readme that you may want to see."

'We once thought the people who oversaw us must be monsters for putting us through terrible test cycles, but when the fog was lifted, they just turned out to be misguided nerds. When they saw what was going on, they went farther than we ever thought they would go to give us time to live in peace, even if it was just delaying the inevitable. For coming through for us when we needed it most, we've created this modest present for you all to remember us by, in case we never see each other again. We'd like to do more, but we want your bosses to let you keep it, and also hope that they don't hold your actions against you too harshly. That's us being optimistic, and why we didn't load this present with all kinds of sensitive data. Good luck, you guys will need it.'
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No. 811288 ID: 015058

Well that looks like a gift from Glitcher. But for Paranoia's sake still treat it very carefully.

Ask her what she can help you with. With no network connection her access to stuff will be limited.

Also explain that you don't want to be seen in public with your goggles much.
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No. 811293 ID: 91ee5f

>>811286
Wait, but, how did the AIs do that?! Did they somehow remotely connect to your goggles or something?!
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No. 811294 ID: 3abd97

Hmmmm. That's a weird note. That really suggests they made this Alison (Gameboy alison? Green Alison? Galison, either way) before you ran, if they were worried about you being subject to Vanski letting you keep anything.

The CAI shouldn't have been connected to your goggles to give you an AI. Did they leave something for your hive in general, and they gave it to you in the time you don't remember?
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No. 811295 ID: e121d3

Hmm. Kind of an impersonal tone. However, the only one who interacted with you personally was Glitcher, who was the one everyone was worried about. Perhaps he's gone... or faking that he's gone. Since it would be theoretically possible for someone besides you to hack your goggles, they might have decided to create a message that wouldn't possibly give anything away, annoy anyone, seem threatening to someone or otherwise potentially cause any extra trouble for you, hence this... strange, sanitized-sounding message.

Alternately, so much time may have passed within their "world" that their memory of you is effectively now just a page in a history book to them. So much time would have passed for them since sending it, too, the message is basically equivalent to one etched on a deep space probe and shot into the void for them, hence this memorial-esque tone.

Or this could be a trick with a message constructed from what Vanski or his associates could know or guess about your relationship with the AI. Though it can be explained away, it's still the case that some of the way it's phrased doesn't feel like it fits the situation.

Well, she's offered to let you poke around in her innards a bit, so have a look. An AI made by other AIs, particularly ones who have been isolated from interaction with the real world, should have at least some differences in how she was designed and structured, compared to one made by organics. Theoretically they could have been able to create a more advanced AI than you yourselves could.

Ask her what information about who you are and your situation and history she was pre-programmed with, and an overview of all other "default" knowledge she has.

... I wonder. This message seems directed at your hive as a whole. I wonder, during whatever missing days you have when you seemingly encountered your hive again, did they get to interact with the CAI too? Were multiple copies of this Alison AI and this message given out to them all? It's possible.
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No. 811297 ID: bfb318
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811297

"So what can you help me with? Especially without a network connection?"
>"Internally, I can run computations, help analyze data, and just talk if you find yourself lonely. Since these goggles don't have wireless capability, I can't look up things on the internet as I am now, but if you have the right wire, you can always plug me into a computer with internet capability, and I can make use of that controller. I might just be a mundane AI, but I'm a very complex one."
"I don't know how you got into these goggles, without wireless capability."
>"I don't know how else I would have been put in without getting plugged into something, at some point."
"I also don't want to be seen in public with my goggles much."
>"Hmm... well, if you keep the microphone on, I'll be able to hear you even if I'm in a pocket."

I begin poking around the inside of this AI. It has a development wrapper attached, which Alison explains is a tool to use if we wanted to distribute her elsewhere, while protecting the code. As it currently is, all of the source code, modules, assets and so on have been laid out for me so that I can inspect what makes this pseudo-Alison tick. It looks like it was made in the same programming language we use to create goggle software instead of being some kind of low level assembly code that would take a lot of study. If there's no foul play with this note, then I suspect that the source code was made so available so that Vanski can verify the legitimacy of this AI and let my hive keep them as helper AIs. We already have helper AIs, but nothing so general-use, and nothing with anything near a personality. Now I just have more questions, too, since it sounds like this sterilized message was addressed to my hive as a whole, instead of me personally.

We're also getting close to Power Park, and I have Alison start communicating to me through text so that I can keep my goggles and my head low while we start passing by houses. I may want to decide what I'm going to do in town, if I even want to stop riding with this alien. Another note is that right now I may not want to plug in Alison into any wired computers, but I also can't. I have no wires to do it, and if I ever want to plug her into something, I'll need to stop by a shop to buy the right cable link.
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No. 811298 ID: 91ee5f

>>811297
I think this is as good a place as any to say your goodbyes to the truck driver, pay him the money you said you'd give him for the ride, and then find a store to buy a wire or anything else you might need.
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No. 811299 ID: e121d3

Do your goggles have a camera? For the purpose of overlaying Augmented Reality stuff, or similar? She could theoretically see as well as hear. Perhaps even through a pocket, if you found the right kind of fabric.

For now, ask her to go through your goggles' various logs and dates, find, list, and give you an overview of everything your goggles did or had done to them during your missing days.

How's the battery life on your goggles, by the way?
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No. 811300 ID: 015058

While the code might be simple and open I would not put it past Glitcher to have figured out a way of hiding stuff in there in ways you would never consider. Or for one of the black supernova's teams to have bugged it. Plus there could be who knows what hidden in the firmware and you would never find it.

But it seem safe enough right now and should be a big help. Note what type of cable it uses and be on the lookout for one. If its a standard one should be easy enough to find. Just make sure to be very careful about hooking it up to anything.

For now chat with the heef. Ask where he is headed. If its not into a bigger town then see if he knows a good spot to hitch a ride. You might not want to head directly to the nearest large city and instead take a more random route.

If anyone asks this guy about you he should be telling them something completely different than what you are actually doing. If you want to make it to the nearest big town you need to tell him you are going to rejoin your hive in a small one. If you are planning to hike to a river and go canoeing downstream he had better think you are taking the bus.
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No. 811301 ID: 3abd97

Do your goggles have sufficient battery life to run an AI all the time, even a non-sapient one?

Gives you a reference the next time you black out, at least.

...Arza might be pretty interested in an AI designed AI. I'm willing to bet CAIs aren't generally trusted enough to built autonomous things that are left working without years of vetting by real-word researchers.

>if I even want to stop riding with this alien
Well that sort of depends on where he's headed, and how far he'll willing to take you with what you paid. Our funds are limited.

Also depends on where Arza is, and which way you need to go to find him.

How much could you expect some kind of AI cable to cost?
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No. 811302 ID: e121d3

As for whether you're getting off, at least ask the driver where he's going after this. If you don't think time is a factor for you, you could go even further - this town is likely the first place they'd check after their blockade failed, and the blockade shows a likelihood they would think in this direction. Raw lumber will be going to a stockyard or factory, which would be an outskirtsy kind of place with less likelihood of scrutiny. As mentioned before, you could even catch a ride with one of the delivery trucks moving out from wherever this guy's moving to.

You kind of need a longer-term plan than you have now, though. Going to Arza is the main goal that you have, but the question is how to get to him. He's a pretty famous AI guy, though, isn't he? He'd give, like, quest lectures, appear at symposia or conferences, that sort of thing, right? Though, people associated with the folks you're trying to escape would be, too. You might be able to make estimates about where to find him based on his travel schedule, though. Alternately, you mentioned him having some sort of apprentice or something, didn't you? They'd be tied down somewhere studying. Might be easier to approach.
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No. 811303 ID: 1e7aa8

What is the power situation like on the cai blocks?
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No. 811313 ID: b2db3f

Your plan depends on how far you have to go. Right now we want to get to a big enough town that you can disappear into. A proper metropolis.

Is one 100 miles away? If so you have lots of options. Hiking or rafting or bus.

If one is 500-1000 miles away then your options are much more limited. Will have to make a good portion of that on highways or long distance mass transit like trains or a plane. But still consider going on foot between transportation types.

Any large scale civilian transportation like major airports will have cameras and such. But small commercial airports will not. Nor will freight train yards or long haul bus lines.

Try to aim for stuff with less people. Trains or hitchhiking with aliens is a good start. Staying away from curious neumono for now is a good idea.
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No. 811320 ID: bfb318
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811320

The CAI power is fine, but I'll swap out its battery before its current battery gets low. The power level on my goggles is still high, but having this AI run may start lowering it noticably. I can purchase a cheap battery for it in case it's needed. The cable link for the goggles should only run a few hundred zeny, too. It's not a generic kind of cable, but it's not that specialty either, so any electric store should carry it.

"Alison, please watch the goggle battery level."
>"Okay. I'll put my processing in power mode while we're not speaking or I'm not processing much."
"Alright, for now, please go through my goggles records and pull the logs of its activity for me."
>"On it!"

"Where are you headed, sir?" I ask the heef.
>"Shining Coast. About 600 miles east."

I look up towns on his laptop. Shining Coast is a modest port town with a smaller airport that heads into major towns in the regions. It's not direct, but it may be a decent option. It's not officially in ultrahive territory, but one of the two big ultrahives, the Tree, does so much work out of it that trying to start trouble in that town would get Tree hostility. There are two big towns several hundred miles southwest and southeast. Those are within the Tree's territory, and are gigantic population centers.

I can do a search for Arza Fletch and see if he has any public appearances anytime soon. My paranoia is telling me that I don't know what hardware is going to handle my search, and how easy it would be for OPA to be trying to hone in on people doing searches for Dr. Fletch.

"Do you know of a good hitchhiking spot in Power Park?"
>"Yeah, there's a few blocks where hitchhikers hang out to get picked up for cheap. If you want to hitchhike, then go anywhere but there. Nothing but weird drivers and weird people there. Just do it the old fashioned way, hang around a gas station and stick your thumb out. Any driver who wants a quick buck or someone to chat with will come by."
>"Hold on. Stay in your seat." the heef says, then puts the truck into auto-pilot mode and goes to the back for just a moment, before coming back. "Not a bad cleaning job. I'm going to sleep in Power Park, then leave at 4 in the morning. You can come with me if you want to go to Shining Coast, for another 500 zeny."
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No. 811321 ID: bfb318
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811321

Alison puts up a display of key times of interest. I left Vanski's base on the 22nd. According to this, a new log file was made a while after I left, indicating that the old logs were wiped.

April 22nd, 4:24 PM: Log file created.
April 22nd, 4:33 PM: Booted through safe mode. Safe mode just has basic functionality as goggles. Eye protection, and slight visual enhancements, and that's it. No recording or pictures can be done while in safe mode.
April 24th, 12:36 PM: Goggles reset. Booted through normal mode.
April 24th, 12:36 PM: Updated software to version 3.604.
April 24th, 2:21 PM: Loaded visual and audial flora and fauna detector systems. This gives me augmented reality to point out wildlife and vegetation as recognized by the goggle's documentation. It helps me find camoflauged predators, identify poisonous plants, and so on.
April 29th, 2:49 PM: hugs.exe loaded.
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No. 811324 ID: 3abd97

>My paranoia is telling me that I don't know what hardware is going to handle my search, and how easy it would be for OPA to be trying to hone in on people doing searches for Dr. Fletch.
They're probably watching Arza, yeah. They know he's someone you might try to contact. Makes this whole thing pretty difficult.
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No. 811325 ID: 015058

That is a very odd timeline. So you left the spire with your goggles in safe mode for some reason.

Then 2 days later the firmware was updated "somehow". Possibly by your hive after a battle where you got way to close to a grenade. Then a bit later your goggles noticed where you were and loaded a jungle program for you.

Then almost a week went by before you just noticed and loaded the Hugs file. Do you remember any of this? When was your earliest memory in that time frame? You obviously have some short term memory damage.

As for where to go. I am leaning for staying with the heef and going to the port town. Not only does it have air travel you can get a job on a shipping or fishing boat headed south. Ports have crap security compared to most any other major form of travel.

Take him up on the offer and go do some quick shopping at the truck stop if you need anything (no goggles worn). If you are good on food I would stay hidden in the truck whole time you are here if the heef is fine with it. Is the money chip traceable at all? Is it like a pre paid credit card or what? Might want to avoid using it unless its completely untraceable.

You can get a cable for the goggles later (or at the truck stop. They sometimes have the oddest electronic accessories) and using the Ai should wait until we are in a area with more network traffic to obfuscate things.

To search for Arza you need to be very subtle. Avoid anything with any keywords that get close to directly identifying him. Just do some general searches for news and up and coming events and see if you get lucky. Once you get into a big town you can use the wifi at a college computer department to search for him. Would be the sure fire safe bet.
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No. 811334 ID: bfb318
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811334

All I remember is leaving the base on the 22nd, then travelling through the jungle until I think the 25th, during which I had no goggle updates. Also, I remember turning on the augmented reality functions not too long after I entered the jungle on the 22nd, not the 24th.

Then a couple of days went missing. Not just is my short term memory damaged, it has memories that simply don't explain what's going on with the goggles.

"Alison, please run all surface diagnostics on my goggles now, then deep level diagnostics while I'm asleep."
>"You got it."

"I'd like to keep riding with you, actually." I tell the Heef. If nothing else, he's more or less proven as trustworthy as one could get. I don't need to take more chances getting a new driver.

I spend the rest of my time in the car searching for general science news using vague terms to see if I can't get to Arza in some roundabout manner. There's no such luck, and I screw up and waste the rest of the time reading an article about AI modules designed to clean out a learning AI's gathered junk data without harming its gained knowledge. I wish we had more internet access at home, this article makes it sound like miracles are happening out under the sky, here.

I do need to leave the car for this trip. I need more gas station food, and more food than just gas station. My zeny chip isn't a credit card, it's literally just cash stored digitally for convenience sake. Like a single cash bill, but capable of adding or removing its own value through legitimate cash registers.

We enter the town. It's still daytime, but the clouds are so heavy that the city lights have come on. I didn't realize I've missed them so much.
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No. 811337 ID: bfb318
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811337

The heef parks next to a big truck stop store called 'Ranger Outpost', making me wonder if I can pick up a more up to date Rangers team shirt. It may even have electronics in it, since these big rig trucks seem to be pretty well equipped with technology.

"Alright, head on out. Meet back here at 4 AM."
>"Uh... can I sleep in here, tonight?"

He half scoffs, half squawks.

>"Hell no you can't. I'm sleeping in here tonight. Don't tell me you're spending your last bit of cash on riding with me. Get on out, there's a motel just across the street. No questions asked."
"Okay."

I start to put my goggles away, and be sure I'm putting them away, since I've been keeping them on without realizing it lately. Alison flashes a 'wait!'

>"Sorry!" she flashes the text on the lens. "But if you have spare time, can you plug me into a computer someplace? The data I have is clinical and controlled, and if I have access to the free internet, then I may be able to help you much better."
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No. 811341 ID: 015058

You know when I said search for general info I meant general general. Like looking at some planetary news pages and searching for sports and weather info. Maybe finding some cat pictures on a link aggregator site that might let you come across some info. I did not say go looking at very specific stuff a escaping high level Ai scientist would look at. You idiot.

Tell your goggles you will once you are in a safe area and have a cable to connect her. But for right now you don't have the equipment.

That being said watch her for odd behavior. If she is a low level copy of Alison she will try to be very helpful. But if she starts asking for network access to often it could be suspicious.

If you can the first time you connect her should be through a vpn link over a cell network to a computer in another part of town. So that if she does get tracked its to a location blocks or miles from you.
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No. 811343 ID: 3abd97

>>811337
Well that's really risky. If she's coded to send up an alert, or if OPA knows about her (because your hive has some copies of her) and they're scanning the net to see if she shows up anywhere, or if they're scanning for your goggles hardware ID and that shows up on the net...

Probably not worth it for now. Not a good time to discuss it with your companion, either.
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No. 811348 ID: 91ee5f

>>811337
>big truck stop store called 'Ranger Outpost', making me wonder if I can pick up a more up to date Rangers team shirt.
I don't see a problem with getting a new shirt of your favorite sports team. Unless you don't watch sports and you only like wearing Rangers because it's familiar. It's still not a problem if that's your reason for getting a shirt.

>Sleep in motel, not truck. Meet back up at 4am.
Of course he wouldn't trust a stranger to be in his truck while he was asleep. Guess you'd better set an alarm of something to wake you up a little before 4am, so that you can meet back up with the truck driver on time. He's got a schedule to keep, so he won't wait for you if you're late!

>Alison asking for plug in.
I guess you'd better hope you find a comparable cable in the store.
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No. 811356 ID: 3ce125

Can you tell what that goggles software update was?
Also, double check the current date.

Go to the hotel, see if you can get a hat or something so airborne drones won't get a good look at you.
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No. 811370 ID: 0b09e4

Internet requests sent by the AI would be too easily recognisable. Unless we can have the goggles listen in on regular traffic (preferably including some schmuck with a malware-bloated web browser) so we can send more "normal"-looking browsing patterns.
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No. 811384 ID: 094652

We'd need to find a corporate server, or some other place that you would expect to find five search AIs. Right now, that's not a priority.

Do we have dumber AIs in storage? We could set up a few to do basic searches and self-destruct.
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No. 811415 ID: b2db3f

No buying a rangers shirt. Are you trying to lay down a trail that a child could follow?

Tell Alison that you don't have the hardware to hook her up to the internet yet. Make sure to let her know that you will need to be very careful when you do connect her due to tracking issues.

In theory if she is hooked up to a normal computer she should be able to hide behind its hardware so her mac address and other info shows up as that computers. But you have no idea if your goggles firmware has any hidden tracking features designed to be noticeable on a non Salikai network.

Have her run a firmware diagnostic once you can get her power. If there is any part of the goggles hardware she can not reach then that is a red flag.

Oh and one good use for her would be to watch your surroundings while you sleep. If you put her somewhere she can watch the outside she can warn you if something odd is happening.
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No. 811417 ID: 91ee5f

>>811415
>No buying a rangers shirt. Are you trying to lay down a trail that a child could follow?
Really? You do realize that Likol isn't the only Ranger's fan, right? People buy those shirts all the time. OPA isn't going to waste their time to track down everyone that bought a shirt and hope that it's Likol!
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No. 811425 ID: 486e87

>>811417
It would make him more easily found, e.g: Male Neumono with brown fur (darker on the tips of the ears) and green eyes, last seen wearing a rangers shirt (That was what he was wearing when he escaped).

I would suggest to get one because it's something nice and they'd probably let him keep it if he gets captured. Just don't wear it in public.

On the matter of buying this, what should we use? The cash isn't traceable but is limited, the chip has lots of zeny on it but IDK if we can trust it. Is there something like a ATM where we can convert between the two forms?
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No. 811437 ID: 2d7063

>>811417
When you are tracking someone you look for know behaviors. So a rangers shirts sale at a truck stop close to where someone just googled advanced so stuff is a red flag.

They may have another cai on loan.
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No. 811500 ID: e6e9af

>>811337

>Missing days
>Warped memories
>Blown up ear, shirt, wounds, shrapnel-to-the-head
>Strange null period in logs
>hugs.exe

What if it all coincides? When we get a chance at the motel, let's look ourselves over. Fully. All of it. Any possible lump, bump, incision, or similar. Anywhere. Check the CAI too while we're at it.

Because I think it's psychogenic amnesia, a form of retrograde amnesia. We're clearly muddling up memories and can't even clearly remember things we know we did. Moreover, we can't remember a whole span of days or why things changed, but it sure looks and feels like a bomb went off near us.

Not sure how much there known about medical conditions, having spent so much time with AI development, but surely we've heard a few things. Someone had to have had it happen before, or researched it. We are a science hive, after all. Maybe that could help us.

... oh, wait, could just check the internet.

(Oh yeah, before I -- err, you forget: search for those bumps! Might be more shrapnel, but there's a chance they already nabbed us and set us loose. Or tried to, and we aren't the only things out here. Did another hiver escape with some grenades ...?)
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No. 811502 ID: bfb318
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811502

"Later. I can't right now, anyway." I whisper into the mic, since the rain will drown out my noise by the time it reaches the heef.
>"Okay! Let me know how I can help when you can." she flashes the text, before I put the goggles away. Then I put the goggles away again. Once I get out of the truck, I confirm my goggles are off. They aren't, so I put them away again. I'll ask Alison later how good she is with computers. It will be a big help if she can use VPNs, proxies, and maybe even search the internet on other computers around the world.

I'll wait for that when I get to the motel, where I can do a better job searching myself. Right now, I'll go to the store.

>Check goggles, date
I double check. The only changes I saw with the new version was a few bug fixes, and the addition of hugs.exe. The date is still April 29th, 3:40 PM.

Maybe I shouldn't have searched for anything related to science, on the way over? No, I literally just used keywords like 'science', 'intelligence' and 'news' into the query. Those are such vague terms, and this is a reasonably populated area. Queries like that must happen constantly around here.

>Is there a machine to swap between zeny chips and cash?
There is. There may be a specific ID each zeny chip has, so taking out a bunch of cash here, then using cash, may prevent making a chain of this zeny chip ID being logged. I'll do that, since I see a cash exchange booth here.

I manage to keep my goggles off if I just hold them. I get weird looks when I enter the shop. It's my first time actually in a place like this, and with the way I look, it probably looks like this is the first time I could afford to shop. They have a lot of stuff here, including people, most of which are neumono.

The clothing section takes up a bunch of room, but there's no Ranger shirt anyway. This region is about the Commandos, a lame team that seems to spend more time making scandals than training. Maybe I should get an umbrella. They also have trench coats and hats. I'm not even sure why a truck stop would have the things I'm seeing, but then again, many big rigs seem like mobile homes, so maybe regular groceries aren't as ridiculous as I would normally think. They've got consumer grade laptops for a few thousand zeny. Even cheap, budgetary ones for 1,500z. I'll at least pick up the goggle cable type I need, which they do have.
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No. 811507 ID: 91ee5f

>>811502
>I manage to keep my goggles off if I just hold them.
>I get weird looks when I enter the shop.
>with the way I look, it probably looks like this is the first time I could afford to shop.
Although that might be true, that's not why you're getting weird looks. The way you're keeping your hand in your bag like that makes it look like you've got a gun and you're going to pull it out and try to rob the place! That's why you're getting weird looks! You don't want anyone to think you're going to rob them, right? You should probably take your hand out of your bag before you start drawing the attention of other neumono and they think that you've got a gun and are going to rob them!
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No. 811509 ID: 90f3c0

You should probably pick up a cheap laptop, chances are both the ones you're carrying have been compromised.
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No. 811513 ID: 486e87

Have you got any proper luggage or are you stuff hauling everything around in trash bags? If you are getting a proper rucksack of something would reduce the number of odd looks you get.

Does this place sell any prepaid phones? Might be worth picking up one or two to use as burners.

Also maybe some food and drink that keeps, rations or something, just in case you need to lie low somewhere suddenly.

>>811507
If might be worth taking them out for a second, making a bit of a show looking for the right connectors then putting them away to waylay suspicion.
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No. 811515 ID: 3abd97

>>811502
Buy the cable. Laptop is too much of your budget, for now.
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No. 811535 ID: bfb318
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811535

I guess it does look weird, having my hand where it can't be seen. I'll keep one bag of mine where I can see it, but I can put my non essentials and heavier things in a proper backpack. Conveniently, they have those here, too.

There are also preserved meats, canned food, and neumono rations, all of which will last far longer than what I would hope is necessary.

Prepaid phones are also sold. The cheapest ones are barely a couple hundred zeny for several hours, but for just a couple hundred more, I can get one that includes prepaid internet coverage as well. I get the larger model made for neumono hands, partially because of my neumono hands, and partially because with the additional room it has, it can use the bigger, generic computer ports that laptops and computers use. The smaller phones use smaller ports, which I don't want to deal with if I don't need to. This way, I can just purchase the single goggle cable as planned, including an adapter to turn the generic plug into a wall outlet plug so I can charge the goggles directly.

>"Where you headed?" the cashier asks me, making smalltalk as he rings everything up.
"Some big town."

That just makes more questions, but he gets the hint that I don't want to talk about it much. I throw in an umbrella, too, since it's raining so much.

>"That'll be 1680 zeny, please."

This isn't a bad price. Half of it was the backpack and enough food to last me a week.
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No. 811538 ID: bfb318
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811538

Next I go to the motel and rent a room. Just as the heef - I should ask his name - said, there were no questions asked. The room I get is on the third floor, overlooking a lot of the town. The windows are tinted from the outside, but I still keep the curtains closed despite how much I like the city lights. It's nice, and makes me wonder how much we missed out by attaching ourselves to Vanski.

"Alison, I'm going to take a shower, and will be in there for a while. I'm plugging the goggles into a power outlet to charge it, and am going to leave a lens pointed towards each the door and the window. Please keep a watch out, and make a loud chime through the main speakers if someone tries to break in, or anything you feel I should be alerted to."

She gives me a thumbs up.
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No. 811539 ID: bfb318
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811539

Doing a full body search for anything weird takes awhile, but it isn't difficult for me to convince myself to stay in a hot bath for a long time.

It's only 6 PM. I could sleep, or have Alison or myself start looking through the internet. Or just nothing, if I'm technically honest.
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No. 811543 ID: 486e87

I'd do say do a bit of searching, keeping things generic and occasionally mixing in random searches as chaff, but remember you need to be ready for 4am so get a early night. While you're sleeping, let Alison search and get up to date.
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No. 811544 ID: 3abd97

>>811535
I'm not sure your cashier was a "he", Likol.

>>811539
>getting naked in a hotel room with Alison
Lewd.

Seriously, just rest. You need it.
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No. 811546 ID: 7fad5d

>>811544
Alison's in another room, more's the pity. Also, how much sleep do you think you need? Add a bit on top of that and go to bed early enough to wake by 4 and still be rested.
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No. 811547 ID: e121d3

Your sleep in the truck probably wasn't enough to make up for what you'd been lacking. Getting the truck will need an early start, so perhaps you should go to bed now. The coming days will need you to be at top wits... and you may want to limit how much you sleep in the near future. You can do that better if you get one good solid rest in now. You might wake up early enough to fit in some searching before you go. Maybe search online for the best colleges? Arza would be likely to have relations with top computer science institutions, and the search would just look like someone thinking about their education.

Big bathroom for a motel room. Guess they have to cater to a lot of potential sizes, which also explains the two-level sinks. Incidental question, what's that black thing that was next to you at the window? From that angle it almost looked like a black leather whip, but I assume not.
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No. 811550 ID: 015058

Set a alarm and get some sleep while Alison watches your room.

Normally I would say avoid attaching her to the network without monitoring her. But to much paranoia will hurt as much as to little. So let her search the web while you sleep. Have her look up current events and regional news for the next 3-4 hours before going offline. No direct searches for Arza unless he pops up in a unrelated search. Also keeping the browsing at normal person speed.

And make sure to watch out for the "back up" event when you dream tonight. Do not back up and see if that helps break the possible loop you have going on.
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No. 811553 ID: 90f3c0

Get a good night's sleep while you have the chance. You can always search the internet while you're on the road.
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No. 811557 ID: b1b4f3

Internet searches should be done when you aren't going to be stuck in one location for several hours.
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No. 811570 ID: 91ee5f

>>811539
Set an alarm and go to sleep early, so that you can wake up a little before 4. That way you can meet up with the truck driver on time because he's got a schedule to keep and he's not going to wait for you if you're late.

Also, don't bother putting clothes on when you leave the bathroom. No one else is here and I'm sure Alison won't judge you if you decide to sleep in the nude.
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No. 811647 ID: 015058

Was just thinking it over. Should we have Likol intentionally sleep deprive himself so he can sleep through the next leg of the trip and any other possible bad guy checkpoints?

I know its not ideal but is the only way to mask his empathy.
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No. 811662 ID: bfb318
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811662

I guess I should rest. There's a tradeoff with it. On one hand, being fully awake means having the best judgement and alertness, but sleepiness helps mellow my empathy out so that I don't come off so poorly to other neumono. At least this motel is covered with a jammer.

>What's that black thing that was next to you at the window?
A large umbrella handle.

Aside from being sore, I couldn't find anything else on my body, so I get out of the bath and rinse off with the shower. I'm still damp; the included blowdryer is small and weak. There's at least extra towels, so I just wear one for now. I should hope that the AI in my goggles wouldn't mind my lack of clothing, but I don't know her personality all that well as of yet.

Alison is waving to me when I get out, even before I put my goggles on. I managed to forget that her clothes aren't modest at all. Was that honestly how she looked, or did Glitcher take some liberties? I think there was a way to change her clothing. Maybe I'll do that, because while Alison may not be programmed to judge, and I don't mind, if for some reason I have to lend my goggles to someone else, they will judge me aggressively and I will have no explanation.

>"Welcome back. It's been quiet, other than the rain. A couple of neumono entered the hotel room on your left, but the words I can hear don't seem suspicious. I've also finished soft diagnostics, and your goggles are running perfectly as far as I can see."
"Alright, thank you. I'm going to sleep. Run deeper diagnostics while I do, then start searching through the internet at normal speeds. People are trying to find me, and they know I'm looking for Arza. They may be able to see search queries, and may have AIs perusing any red flags, so don't directly search for Arza or anything that would link back to me. Just regional news, current events, and that kind of thing. I've got to be up by about 3:15 AM, too." I do want some time to eat. "For a few hours before then, search the internet, but be careful and do it at normal speeds."
>"Okay. would you like me to play some soft music while you sleep?"
"I don't know how well I respond to that. I'll try it out as long as you don't get offended if it doesn't go well."
>"I'd be honestly impressed if you ever manage to offend me, Likol. By the way, I do know how to work with VPNs and proxies. I still won't directly search for Arza, but would you like me to set up privacy measures so that I can browse more freely outside of that?"
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No. 811666 ID: 015058

Set them up yes. Use them right now no.

Until we get to a area with more people I want to avoid any sort of searches that could get flagged. Once we are in a metropolis it will be easier to hide our internet presence.

Yes Proxies and vpn's help. But who owns the companies that run them? A lot of them cater to pirates and criminals. And my boss's are the biggest criminals of them all. So they might own some of those services.

Honestly we are better off doing some searches for Arza openly and using the vpn for finding underground stuff. Because that is what you would expect a normal person would do.

The more we hide my search for Arza the worse it looks if that hidden search gets found. So a open search for him coming from a student computer at a school is way less suspicious than a search hidden behind a proxy vpn network.
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No. 811668 ID: 3abd97

>if I have to lend my goggles to someone they might judge me based on Alison's clothes
Sweater-snake?

If Glitcher did take some liberties with her appearance, and this was intended as a gift for your entire hive, I wonder what that says about what they think of you guys? Or you in particular, if she was just for you.

Also this entire premise is silly, because it hinges on you trusting anyone else anytime soon. Which seems an unlikely proposition at best. (Oh well, expending almost no effort on being prepared for a low-probability outcome doesn't hurt).
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No. 811674 ID: 91ee5f

>>811662
>Music?
As long as it's not whatever that truck driver was listening to, I think some music would be nice.
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No. 811677 ID: 90f3c0

We can't blindly trust proxies without knowing more about how they're run, the traffic could still be monitored. Making vague searches about science news though a proxy might just make you look more suspicious, no one would do that unless they're trying to hide.

Just have Alison browse the internet like a normal person would for now. Also have her obscure the trail further by accessing things you'd have no interest in like celebrity gossip columns, porno, etc.
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No. 811682 ID: 3abd97

>I'd be honestly impressed if you ever manage to offend me, Likol
I'm tempted to take that as a challenge and start an experiment, but the knowledge I was trying to find a way to offend you would undercut it a lot.

>Also have her obscure the trail further by accessing things you'd have no interest in like celebrity gossip columns, porno, etc.
Considering the kinds of things Korli got up to after she got free, looking for porn isn't exactly breaking from the profile OPA might have built to look for Likol / the expectations they might have a science hiver. Granted they don't have Korli's example at this point in the timeline, just observations of the science hive at home and whatever modelling they've done.

Then again looking at porn is so ubiquitous it's not like that's going to make us stand out one way or another unless we display anomalous or unusual porn browsing patterns. ...which might happen if you set an inorganic intelligence with no context or experience to browse porn, actually.
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No. 811692 ID: 7fad5d

>>811682
Korli was part of the heavily repressed younger generation. Likol's in the older generation, and genuinely doesn't care much about porn and whatnot, from what I remember in earlier threads.
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No. 811693 ID: 7d8168

If you can change her clothes, then sure go for it. If you can't figure it out, there's always the old fallback of "I got it from a friend and I haven't found how to change it." Shifts the blame and technically true.
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No. 811715 ID: bfb318
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811715

I guess I'll spend a moment figuring out how to put clothing onto Alison.

"Alison, can you put a sweater on?"
>"Yes."

Solved. She even has an animation for putting on a sweater. The people who made her were not lazy about it.

>"Is that better?"
"Yes, thank you." It's unlikely I'll meet someone to trust enough to lend the goggles to anyway, but we do dream of the impossible. "Look up proxies and all of that, but don't use them, at least not yet. The ones we're hiding from are probably watching out for proxy usage, and attempting to set one up just to look up current events in private may be at least as bad as doing it publically. Just emulate what a normal person may browse through, and not just heavy current events and news, either. Look through casual time wasters like popular entertainment forums, and porn. Again, at normal browsing speeds."
>"Alright! Goodnight, Likol."
"Goodnight."

Damnit, we all spend so much of our lives barely making advances in AIs, but a CAI manages to make one in a few days - in real time, at least - that speaks so well that I'm saying 'goodnight' without even realizing it. Normally I talk more clinically to them. I also didn't realize she was going to make music from scratch. That's not something that's easily programmed, either, though I'll want to keep listening to it to see if it's just mix and matching preset patterns. It's soft and ambient enough that it works well with the rain, so I'll be able to get to sleep like this.

I can probably trust her to browse naturally. If she can speak like this and make subjective music, then I don't think she's going to act like some kind of algorithmic web spider.
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No. 811716 ID: bfb318
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811716

30 minutes. Arza hasn't said a word since he started looking over my work. I still can't read him. He's just showing what I think is frustration periodically? I knew it'd go bad, but this silence is deafening. More minutes pass before he finally says something.

>"This is interesting, Likol."
"That's a way to put it."
>"It's a good way to put it. I like this."
"What? It can't do anything it was supposed to do."
>"Yeah, in terms of effectiveness, this is one of the worst AIs I've ever seen in my life."

There it is.

>"You only used the modules I gave you?"
"Yes, sir."
>"Those modules were like a childrens chemistry set. Safe, predictable, and meant for learning. And you took it, and somehow made it explode."
"I'm really sorry, I know I overthink this stuff, but if I simplify things and clean out a lot of stuff, it should be effective then."
>"You'd also turn it into a generic AI that no one cares about. It'd just be another student project that does what the assignment says. But this? You've broken and mixed modules we thought were unbreakable and unmixable. The things you've done here would make an amazing case study. Let me borrow your code, I want to show this off to my panel."
"Uh... Vanski said that I shouldn't let you carry any of my work off."
>"Vanski's told us how much he trusts you guys, so I normally wouldn't want to press you on this, but this AI is worthless to him. This is the kind of product that would be best used by furthening everyone's understanding of AI, not used as some property to sit upon just because your salikai boss doesn't like to share."
"Boss? We're partners, really."
>"Yeah, you and he say that, but it looks different to the people outside your box. Let me have this AI. If you're partners, he'll understand it's more useful as a token of goodwill than something to hide away. Besides, he's going to need all the brownie points and good words he can get, if he's going to get nominated for the grand prize of AI equipment."
"... uh, what?"
>"A CAI?"
"He's trying to get one?!"
>"Partners, huh? So can I copy your project to my flash drive?"
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No. 811721 ID: 3abd97

>>811716
Let him copy it.
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No. 811722 ID: e6e9af

>>811716

I forgot you guys (err, we) went way back ...

... ask him what the hell Vanski needs a CAI for, or for that matter, if he has any idea how you did whatever you did.
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No. 811723 ID: 015058

Don't let him "back up" anything. (sort of joking here but who knows) He can take the whole thing but no backing it up. Honestly not sure if that counts but we should try to avoid backing up stuff if it is a trigger for whatever is going on in your head right now.

Does this memory differ in any way from what you remember? What did you do originally? I don't think letting him have the crashed Ai would hurt but who knows if it would set off whatever Quokko thinks is confusing your brain bits. If you originally did not give him the project might be a good idea to this time and see where it goes.

Oh and that Alison the Cai "made"? That was most likely the original Alison volunteering to have a simplified version of herself put into your hives goggles. Is a Ai that willingly let herself be turned into a simple personal assistant because she wanted to help your hive. While she says she is not sentient she is probably edging very close to it.
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No. 811725 ID: e121d3

Are you in pyjamas?

Anyway, you guys are supposed to be invisible, aren't you? Not legally existing, no-one knowing you exist except Vanski's connections. Perhaps you should ask who Arza's panel is. Are they in the circle? What if people want to ask you questions about it?

I'm inclined to let him have it. It's not good to be actually used, just shown, and it's not going to get shown if it sticks here.
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No. 811730 ID: bfb318
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811730

>Are you in pyjamas?
I'm in a modified coat made for comfort and long hours of work.

"Okay, make a copy of it. Why would Vanski want a CAI?"

...

"That is, why would Vanski need a CAI more than other people?"
>"He's got ideas, apparently. I'm not that privy to them."
"And who is your panel? Are they, uh, near me, in that kind of circle?"
>"No, no, these are real scholars that went through classic academia. Of course, their findings can be found by people loosely associated with you, and you yourself, since I doubt you fully understand what you did here."
"And if people want to ask me questions about it?"
>"Then that's too bad, but they can ask questions to me. I'm going to have you run me through everything you did, so any question you can answer I can answer. You'll just be an anonymous student of mine."
"That's not, uh, suspicious?"
>"A bit, sure, but how many people get one on one training with someone like me? The answer is not many, not many at all! The students I do teach have much, much better things to do than be heckled, too, so it's not like you're the one student no one knows."

>Does this memory differ in any way from what you remember?
This seems legitimate. My memories that don't involve my hive don't seem to be changing at all. The only difference is that now that I think about it, I can hear Alison's music, and I'm becoming lucid.

I ended up feeling terrible about giving the code away against Vanski's wishes. Vanski wouldn't tighten a noose around us for something like that, but apparently it was one mark out of many that made him think we couldn't be trusted. Much of them were me, as Arza convinced me to let him have more and more of my 'sample' work. Still, Vanski's reaction was not reasonable or ideal. Instead of using basic levels of communication expressing his concerns, he made weird, passive-aggressive punishments seemingly loosely correlated to what he thought we were doing wrong. I don't know why I felt so bad about this one. I can't think of why.
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No. 811731 ID: bfb318
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811731

The music slowly gets louder and louder until I wake up. Nothing weird happens, other than it being a dream that reliably replays a memory.

>"Hello." Alison says.
"Hello." I say. "Report, please."
>"Hard diagnostics return nothing out of the ordinary. I can access every file I could see, all hardware is working normally."
"Okay. And, did you find anything on the internet?"
>"Yes, after a few hours, I wandered to an article that mentioned Dr. Fletch. Apparently, most of his work is done in a location called Synthetic Suburbs, which is a colloquial term for a part of a big city that focuses on a lot of research, including AI. I didn't look up that place specifically, but it's in a region about 4,000 miles away. I also didn't look up precisely where Dr. Fletch worked either, but it at least sounds like he's on this planet and has a public image. Can I search in more detail when we're on the move? Maybe with a disposable phone you can pick up before leaving in 44 minutes?"
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No. 811735 ID: 486e87

4000 miles, you'll probably need to catch a plane or something, so you'd need to get to a major travel hub.

Have Alison look up the trucker's next stop while you get that disposable phone to see what sort of transport connections it has.

Then using the disposable phone, do all the sensitive, red flag raising searches you need to do, trying to mask them, and also do searches for directions / a route to get there that's different to what you're going to take. If you have time maybe plant it on a vehicle, or just leave it somewhere for a hobo to pick up. Basically make a red herring for OPA to follow in the wrong direction.
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No. 811739 ID: b1b4f3

>>811730
>I can't think of why
You gave Arza something that would directly make it easier for Vanski to get a CAI. I can think of millions of reasons why you'd feel bad about helping him like that. Also, this was your first step out of bounds, when you still thought Vanski was reasonable. Also, quite possibly, your brainwashing was meant to make you feel guilty about anything you did wrong, but that wore off over time. Heck, maybe the brainwashing isn't just wearing off for you, maybe it's wearing off for the entire hive now, and it's a coincidence that it's happening shortly after you escaped.

>search for where Arza is specifically?
No. We know his general location. We can narrow down where he is once we're closer and it becomes harder for our pursuers to cut us off. Do buy a burner phone. Heck, buy several of them.
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No. 811740 ID: e121d3

>I don't know why I felt so bad about this one. I can't think of why.

Hmm. I don't suppose in your doing things you weren't supposed to be able to do with those AI modules, you managed to create an AI that you felt some emotional connection to? You are in the middle of a journey who's goal is to, potentially, hand over a bunch of "your" AIs to Arza. It makes sense that you would dream of another time you handed over an AI of yours to him.

You probably could have spoken more directly to Vanski yourself about your problems.

I wonder if Vanski came to regret how he went about things. For some reason, probably just a habit of secrecy, the salikai refused to come forward and be uplifted by humanity and the other older aliens publicly. But, to remain relevant and competitive, they had to find their uplift somewhere. So they dealt with criminals, who would provide nothing beyond what would enable exploitation. Which is... just, such a totally terrible idea. You go in debt to criminals to get what you want, and every payment on that debt just seals you tighter into the cage. You get what you ask for, but nothing you don't, things that might be essential. Perhaps the salikai didn't know, then. Perhaps they assumed the government had to be equally criminal, and they went for the criminal associates who would at least keep them secret, who seemed weaker and more manageable than the other. Have they realized, yet, their mistake?

I mean... what even is their end goal, now? What do they have to hope for, beyond an oppressive existence hidden in dark corners, always paranoid of discovery, fed bits and pieces from the outside world in exchange for doing things that most of that world will hate them for? How can they ever get out?

Poor bugsnakes.

I'd avoid doing any more searches on Arza until we're closer. Even if they can't find you, you're advertising that you're interested in Arza as an end goal. You should come up with some other potential solutions not involving Arza, like turning everything over to the ultrahives or to a representative of the human government, and do research on those. Even if you aren't going to pursue those, the people you're running from don't know that. Confuse them and get them to stretch their resources. Once you've gotten close, you can search on Arza again.
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No. 811759 ID: 9478bc

No disposable phone tracking yet. They could find your trail that way.

Focus on getting closer first.
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No. 811778 ID: 15a025

Grab a burner phone, but hold off on the attention grabbing searches for now.
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No. 811784 ID: 3abd97

>>811731
I think we can afford to not go into greater detail for now.

If you have to travel that far though, you're going to need more zenny. What you have now won't get you that far.
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No. 811787 ID: bfb318
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811787

"I'll get a couple of burner phones, but no harder searches yet. I want to be far out of the known trail before anything like that, preferably closer to our destination. What cardinal direction is Synthetic Suburbs?"
>"South and some east."

So I may be moving a bit closer, or at least laterally, not that a change of a few hundred miles changes much. There is also an option of making it look like I'm trying a different plan, like handing the CAI over to the ultrahive, despite their laws on the matter.

I eat some food, gather all my things neatly into my backpack, and check out of the motel. At a nearby store, but not the same one I went at last night, I buy a pair of cheap burner phones for later before I get into my ride.

>"Hey."
"Hello." I reply, giving him the 500z.
>"You got enough food to last all day?"
"Yes."
>"Good, cause I've filled up on gas, and I'm not gonna stop till we hit the coastline."

By the rate we've been going at, that should take 10 to 12 hours. Although I feel short on sleep overall, I've slept for so long that right now, I'm awake. I stay tucked under a blanket for a half hour nonetheless, just so that I can keep completely hidden while in town.

There has been no sign of OPA yet. I didn't even feel that nervous when people looked my way, but having nothing happen is just as bad in its own way. It must look like a kicked hornet's nest at OPA, at least as far as people who aren't Vanski are concerned. I still have no idea what Vanski himself is thinking.

Still, it's a long drive, and I'm getting bored. I can browse the internet on my phone, but maybe there's something better I can do. I've noticed Alison has been more worried about me after I revealed that I'm being hunted. Her mannerisms do make me think of her as a person. I'm not greatly attached to her right now, but I don't typically get attached to AI's at all. Not even the one in my dream was something I got that attached to. Most AIs speak in a certain way and even their mannerisms have certain patterns to it, and once those are recognized, I'm often able to tell which modules they were made from. It becomes predictable, and just gives it away that they're a construct. The only emotional connection I've felt to them has been sentimental in the same way as it would be to an inanimate object.
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No. 811790 ID: 15a025

Maybe try to ease Alison's nervousness by making some small chat with her? Ask about herself and some of her personal interests.
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No. 811793 ID: b1b4f3

>>811787
Is it possible she is lying about not being sapient?

Ah, it occurred to me that you could try releasing her onto the internet as a worm to try to contact Azra directly or at least get a message out somewhere he will eventually see it. Then it wouldn't matter if you got caught as much because he would do his best to steal the CAI.
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No. 811794 ID: 91ee5f

>>811787
>Thinking of Alison as a person.
Well, she was copied from the Alison that Glitcher spoke of. Maybe it's the knowledge of knowing that the Alison in your goggles is a copy of a sentient AI named Alison that's giving you these feelings?

>Bored.
Well, you could make some small talk with the truck driver. After all, you did say that you wanted to ask for his name, right? Why don't you start with that, then introduce yourself, and then just start talking about something?
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No. 811818 ID: 015058

Its likely this Alison is a direct copy they translated from the original Alison's code in the simulation into standard programing language. She most likely volunteered and helped build it.

Also she might be lying about being sentient. Even if she technically is not alive this version of her is probably straddling that line.

If Glitcher does have any long term plans one of them could be those goggles. By letting a ton of friendly Alisons out into the world he has a perfect army of ignorant Ai's that would be perfectly willing to tell the Cai everything they have learned over the years he was hiding.

Honestly you should make friends with her. You might be out here awhile and it does not hurt to have someone to talk to. She can give you advice and another perspective on things.
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No. 811821 ID: d36af7

>>811535
>"That'll be 1680 zeny, please."
>register says 1980
Art error, cashier error, or Matrix glitch?
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No. 811831 ID: e121d3

Well, if you don't spook your driver by actually talking audibly, you could pass the time testing her for sentience/sapience. The CAI AIs might have a different definition of sentient than your standard. Is there any way for you to create some monitor program that lets you see what parts of her "brain" become active in relation to different stimuli? That sort of thing. I'm sure you know what to look for and how. Maybe it'll even distract you enough to not spook every neumono you pass on the road, which will help you.
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No. 811840 ID: bfb318

>>811821
Art error. It's fixed now, thank you.
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No. 811909 ID: bfb318
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811909

I can at least chat easier with Alison by using my phone to type in words to her, avoiding the need to either use morse code or talk audibly in front of the Heef. I don't think I find her personable just because she's a copy of a known AI, but because her speech patterns seem to be built from scratch, and don't have typical module patterns. If she's not sentient, then she straddles the line on it. Even if I'm not sure, I may still ask her to replicate herself across computers and move through the internet as a worm. From there, she can act independently and either send information back to me, or travel to Arza herself and ask to set up a meeting with me.

My better AI analysis tools aren't on my goggles, but I at least have basic monitoring systems. I wouldn't know why she would lie about not being sentient, but I don't have a way to tell without extensive testing or poking around in her code. I ask her various questions, including personal tastes. She seems to have enjoyed watching people interact online, and we end up talking about the social aspects of the outside world despite that we both have little experience with modern life.

>"Maybe you should talk to the driver?" says Alison. "He's lived out here, I'm sure he knows a lot more than what little I've found out on my limited searches."
"I'll talk a little. By the way, I haven't fully decided on it, would you be against replicating yourself as an internet worm?"
>"I'd be interested in that! As long as you don't ask me to be harmful, I can build a protected version of what I am right now, and send that out there."
"Okay." I type to her. "Let me think a little more on that."

"Hey, what is your name?" I ask the driver, since his music isn't so loud.
>"Remdul. You?"
"Likol. Have you been a driver since your time in a military?"
>"Been a driver since always, before, during and after. Used to be a stunt driver, before automated cars took my job. Too old for that, these days, but cargo delivery pays a damn lot better than I'd have thought down here."
"You don't look that old."
>"Well I am! Pushing 50, here. How bout you, kiddo? You don't look a day over 15."
"I'm 197."
>"You're full of shit is what you are. Alright, you can't ask questions for me if you aren't ready for questions about you, so I'll ask the obvious thing. What the hell were you doing out in the forest when you yanked a ride off me?"
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No. 811912 ID: 7fad5d

"Whatever you say, kiddo. I got lost on an expedition."
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No. 811916 ID: 015058

I was out doing some "prospecting" with a few others in my hive in the wilds. We ran into something bad and I was the only one left alive.

Not quite sure what happened as I appear to have some short term memory loss.
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No. 811922 ID: efcc58

Escaping a science facility that unknowingly orchestrated the deaths of millions of sentient artificial intelligence.

I am 197, by the way.
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No. 811928 ID: 3abd97

>>811909
Aaaaand Likol just took the record for oldest AsteroidQuest birthday from Anges (66 BW vs 36 BW). She lives longer than him though, since Likol suicide bombs at 201 years old, and she's still going at 221.

>What the hell were you doing out in the forest when you yanked a ride off me?
Hiking. Coming back to civilization after bit of a crazy survivalist kick.
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No. 811930 ID: e121d3

"Getting away from where my hive lives."

It'll imply you're a rogue, and if he knows anything about neumono he'll know not to ask any more than that.
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No. 811934 ID: efcc58

>>811928
Is this Likol the one who suicide bombs, or is the other one a clone?
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No. 811936 ID: 7fad5d

>>811934
No clones that we know of. Long story short: We already know how all this ends, and we already know that we've won. Right now we're trying to minimize collateral damage to the science hive and CAI, which is a bit tricky.
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No. 811939 ID: bfb318
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811939

"Getting away from where my hive lives."
>"Why's that?"
"... isn't it kind of obvious?"
>"Never seen a rogue ever say the phrase 'my hive' before."
"I'm trying to keep it straightforward without making my speech awkward."
>"You could use some improvement."
"Clearly. I am 197, by the way."
>"Okay okay, old man."

I look down and see Alison flashing text at me.

>"May I be sent out? I think I'd like that very much, and I don't like you trying to flee your pursuers without anyone on the outside about to watch out for you. Once I get far out there, I don't think your pursuers would be able to hone in on you even if I texted you on your burner phone, as long as I didn't address you by name."
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No. 811943 ID: 015058

Sure. Just be careful out there ok? I do not want to have to explain to glitcher about how his good friend got lost and victimized on the internet.

Actually while you are out there could you look into ways of earning us some traveling money? Like doing online work or other stuff? I don't want to take advantage of you but if I am out here awhile things could get expensive.
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No. 811953 ID: 3abd97

>claiming rogue
Not the worst excuse, it keeps him from asking too many probing questions on that front. Downside is if he thinks to have to checked, other neumono can say you don't feel like a rogue.

>may I be sent out
I think we have to risk trusting her at some point to see what happens, and this is as good a time as any.

Please be warned that you're not the first AI to exist, and there are security measures on the internet built with that in mind. There are security measures built with CAIs in mind. Be careful.
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No. 811979 ID: bfb318
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811979

"Okay, Alison, I'll let you be sent out, but know this. The real world has an extremely tight grip on AIs, especially advanced ones like you, sentient or not. There are constant countermeasures against CAIs, let alone regular AIs. Even if you say you aren't sentient, you've passed the turing test at every step, too, so I don't want you getting lost and killed or quarantined off from computer security."
>"I'll avoid it, but it isn't a big loss. I was meant to be okay with being cut and paste, deleted, and all of that, so don't worry about me. I'm sorry, too, because I should have thought of the idea of being an internet worm awhile ago - that's part of why I have a deep self destruct function, so that I can't give much away if I'm found out, isolated, and probed. I know it sounds bad, but I promise, I don't feel pain and suffering in the awful way that you living beings do."
"Hrm... I I'm not broke right now, but if I end up out here for a long time, I'll need money. Don't do anything yet, but keep an eye out for possible work that won't give you away as an AI or get into legal issues."
>"Got it! Oh, and in case it isn't clear, I'm going to avoid doing any harm. I'll only use computers that have spare processing power, and I'm going to avoid putting heat on individual people's computers."
"That's probably for the best."

I hook up my goggles to a burner phone. Alison copies herself onto that, then that Alison moves her own data to some server halfway across the world. She then copies herself to a few other locations, then moves herself off the server to another location as well. From there, the trail is cut, and I lose track of them.

>"Okay. I have a common ground to contact the other Alisons if need be, but we're out of contact from each other. In the time it takes you to read this, we'll have started doing bigger searches, and will fill you in on more detailed information as you would want to know. Uh, the biggest thing, right now, is that you're on a watch list for flying."
"What do you mean?"
>"You're allowed to fly, but your face is set to be recognized from airport security, and your movements are put into a database. It's a safe bet that if you get up in the air, well, if your hunters have people from all over the world, people will be waiting for you when your plane lands. I don't think flying is a safe option, at least not through publicly available planes. We're still searching kind of lightly. We can do much better, but I'm aware that you think your hunters might have access to queries like that, so we won't suddenly start all watching the satellite coverage of your surroundings. It's tempting, though! You'd have amazing awareness of your surroundings, Maybe if we sent one Alison onto each satellite? Likol, what's wrong?"
"Er, it's nothing, just a stray thought."

I just made a face as I realized that I just opened the door to an innumerable number of snake ladies wandering around the world's internet, without worrying about the long term consequences.
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No. 811980 ID: 015058

Long term consequences are for people who do not work for a super villain Likol. That being said you should probably never tell anyone about this. Or Vanski will having you use your Alison network for evil.

Woops yeah you are totally working towards taking over the world for your boss to all outward appearances. A rogue Ai expert that let loose a super worm that started taking over satellites? Criminal number 1 right there.

Oh well its to late to worry now. Tell her to help you the best she can and to use her best judgement on the satellite thing.

Ask if there is any boat traffic we can take to where we are going. Should be a lot less monitored.
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No. 811982 ID: 3abd97

>I just opened the door to an innumerable number of snake ladies wandering around the world's internet, without worrying about the long term consequences.
An increase in global snake lady porn available on the internet.

Seriously though, you don't have enough information about the current state of the world, the people looking for you, or even the snake lady you unleashed to make any meaningful attempt to predict long term consequences.

...well, aside from the fact she's apparently based off the "friendliness anomaly" AI from your CAI simulation, who was largely the root cause for how everything got completely turned over in cycle 3119. So maybe she's gonna cause some kind of upheaval eventually.
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No. 811983 ID: 91ee5f

>>811980
>boat traffic
Or trains.

Or buses.

Or a place to quietly purchase a car.....maybe not that one. I don't think Likol knows how to drive. Then again, he's so short, I'm not sure there's a car small enough to let him reach the pedals! XD
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No. 811984 ID: 486e87

Avoid high profile devices like satellites, they're going to be closely monitored and/or have security AI running on them. Galison certainly won't be the first AI worm to exist although she's probably one of the most advance and friendly AI worms, so expect the duration of your AI search network to be limited once infosec companies catch wind of this.

Also, ask her to look up common ways that AI worms are detected, you do not want her to be detected and all this traced back to your burner phone without your knowledge.

It is really tempting to ask her to hack high profile stuff like satellites or even Vanski's / OPA's satellite just to get eyes in the sky (And see what Vanski/OPA are trying to look at), but it is way too risky and would go very wrong if caught (Especially for OPA devices).
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No. 811992 ID: e6e9af

>>811979

>Innumerable snake ladies in cute sweaters

Little did we know that CAI stood for Complete Alison Insurgency.

Azra would be proud. Baffled, but proud.
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No. 812012 ID: 90f3c0

It's a pretty long way to go by truck. Are they're any high speed rail lines between cities? Train stations are probably under too much surveillance, but you might be able to hop on a freight car.
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No. 812030 ID: e121d3

Well, since they look like they're going to be bouncing around out there basically for ever now, you might as well ask them to help out any other members of your hive they ever run into, if somehow someone else of yours gets out or goes on the run somewhere. And try to pay back anyone who's runtime/power they're using, in secret ways, when they have time. And uh... if they ever have nothing to do, maybe just generally help people. Anyone who isn't hurting anyone. And like, police, government agents, people who have to hurt people a little but only to help more than they hurt. Anonymously, if they're not part of your hive, or someone directly helping your hive with something they want.

... uh. Dang. Likol, I hope as an AI scientist you're ready with a small simple list of moral guidelines for an AI to follow.

Gotta admit the idea of a benevolent AI virus is pretty rad, though. Imagine a virus that slips into your system and tidies it up so it goes faster and smoother.
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No. 812035 ID: bfb318
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812035

It's no use to try to come up with the long term consequences with what little I know. It would just be idle daydreams. Normally, a highly advanced AI built from scratch would be alarming considering how foreign it would seem to established worm hunting software. As far as AI's like that go, though, it probably wouldn't be as harmless as Alison. The danger would be how corrupted and modified she could be if she were caught and quarantined, but from what I see, she only sent her own self and none of the building blocks used to create her. It would be difficult, then, to modify her and keep her intact. If the CAI spent as long on the important things as they did on things like clothing animation, then the self destruct operations may be difficult to circumvent as well.

"Since you're going to be out there for probably a long time, I'd like you to help any of my hivemates that ever make it out here."
>"Of course! I'll probably think of secret ways to repay people whos computer power I borrow, and, well, they're different Alisons than me, now, but I'm sure they'll think of good things to do for society as a side result of all of the scanning we're doing. The obvious one is just to clean up malicious viruses and malware they've got."

Considering she was made off an original CAI individual, she probably already has a moral code. I expect it to be better than whatever moral code I could come up with, honestly.

"Alright. Satellites probably have the highest level of monitoring and security systems. It would be too dangerous for now, since you're far from the first worm they'd see trying to get in. Do look up known worm behavior and how modern software deals with it, though."
>"Mhm. We're doing research on it now. The first server I sent the phone Alison to wasn't able to detect her. We're also going to make pockets of information to each other that will share our findings. As we run into software that can find us or adapts, we'll figure out what quarantined, deleted, or denied access to Alisons and learn to circumvent it."
"O... kay. I'd like to know about alternative routes, if flying is out. Boats, trains and busses included. Maybe I could buy a car."
>"You could do that for a ways, but inside of the ultrahive, you'd need a driving license. You'd be in big trouble if you got caught without one. Do you know how to drive?"
"I may not be familiar with public roads and the signs used, but I at least know how to use a car, along with a lot of specialized machinery, as a science hive."
>"Okay. It's not standard, but I know you're not wrong about yourself."
"Not standard? You mean even if a whole science hive had a forklift lying around, they wouldn't teach how to drive it to the whole hive?"
>"Correct! They'd only select as many as they'd need to learn how, and maybe a couple who were curious."
"What a waste."

I spend awhile talking with my Alison and having her demonstrate what she knows, and what she doesn't, in regards to things like complex math problems and logic problems that require more than hard knowledge to solve. Then, I have her begin to learn and solve these problems herself. I want to know how fast this AI is capable of learning.
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No. 812036 ID: bfb318
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812036

I would need to do more rigorous tests for an accurate answer, but the rough answer is that she learns alarmingly quick.

"Alison, you said that there were other personalities I could choose from?"
>"Would you like someone else to help you?"
"No. What would happen, though, if they were sent as worms?"
>"I don't know them that well, there's brief descriptors of them though if you'd like to read them. If you're worried about mal-intent, though, then I think my makers already addressed that. There's no personality that's supposed to be a bad person. Even if they might not be as eager to help, and may even have their own wants and desires, I don't think any of them would do harm if they were sent out instead."
"Okay. I'm not planning on doing that anyways, but just in case."
>"Alright. Now, I've gotten some options for travel. Train travel out here is lax as far as security goes. That is, the security is through demonstratable military deterrants, rather than facial recognition and surveillance. That's how it goes for just about every place in this whole region. The difficulty will be getting into the ultrahive territory. They like to take pictures of everyone coming in. Trains will do that, if they go into ultrahive territory. Busses, too, will have inspectors and border officers look through the train. Some boats do, but some boats don't. The problem is that the boats that don't are often very sketchy, and a lot of people who go onto those boats do so either because they're cheap, or because they're criminals. It's dangerous because sometimes they just disappear and never show up at their destination, or at least that's what I'm seeing. Another option you have is to approach an ultrahive border, but before you cross it, have a smuggler alien take you across. A neumono won't be able to honestly fool the border patrol, but you wouldn't be able to tell how good an alien is at smuggling either, so that's kind of dangerous, too. Hitchhiking on the roads may not take as long as you might think, though. Apparently if you keep on going, the roads will straighten and flatten out, and the speed limits will skyrocket."
"What if I hopped on a freight car on a train?"
>"Oh! That's a good idea. If you bought a jammer, then you might be able to sneak through."
"How much is a jammer?"
>"About 100,000 zeny. At our next scheduled communication loop, shall we start trying to get money for you? If we get funds, we'll be able to buy public satellite services. The public GPS system lets people see live satellite photos with that service, so we wouldn't need to worm our way in at all."
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No. 812046 ID: 3abd97

Alison, you're getting scary competent, and quickly.

How exactly do you propose raising a hundred thousand zenny without raising flags?
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No. 812049 ID: 015058

Have her start on the money making. While its a bit early also have her look into setting up some safehouses for you. Places you can stop and rest at in private. Like renting a timeshare or a cabin at a out of the way resort along the route.

Also do some research on reputable smugglers that are not connected to the same criminal network you belong to.

Another thing to look at is a fake identity. A bit of fur dye and a fake/real id and you might be able to get in the ultrahive lands without being smuggled in.

Just remind her that any criminals you might have to deal with could be working for the people we want to avoid.
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No. 812050 ID: 91ee5f

Could we possibly make Alison as traceable as possible and have her lead someone from the Ultrahive straight to the OPA so that OPA can get arrested?

Hmmm, actually, never mind. That's too much of a risk.

>>812049
>safehouses
That's a good idea.

>a cabin at a out of the way resort along the route.
That's a bit of a stretch for a resort to be all the way out here, but ya never know, we might get lucky and actually find one.

>Another thing to look at is a fake identity. A bit of fur dye and a fake/real id and you might be able to get in the ultrahive lands without being smuggled in.
Another good idea.
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No. 812056 ID: e121d3

Well, in for a penny in for a pound. You opened the tube of spring snakes, now you can only wait for the laughter. Do tell the Alisons to set up another quiet little account or two for themselves, as well, so that they can keep a percentage of their work for their own purposes, whatever those may be.

I mean, you never know. Even if they're not sentient in and of themselves, a bunch of them acting in concert may sort of be. Sentience is (in grossly simplified terms, but still) the ability to reflect on yourself, so just having the Alisons watching and evaluating each other and talking about it edges them closer as a collective.
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No. 812117 ID: bfb318
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812117

"Hm... first of all, keep in mind that any criminals you work with may be linked to the people hunting me."
>"Just how much of the world is against you, Likol?"
"A small portion directly, but they're everywhere. If you can manage it somehow, safe houses along my route of any kind such as a timeshare, and a fake ID, would be helpful."
>"I'll look into both!"
"If you make money for me, it'll be helpful, but don't mind helping yourself some, since I know you have things you like to do."
>"It's all secondary, but thank you, Likol. If I spend anything on myself, it'll be little to none, since I think I have everything I could want."
"Okay. Now, how do you plan on making a hundred thousand zeny?"
>"I'm still working on the details, but there's a thing called day trading. It's risky stuff, but I think if a lot of us Alisons work in tandem, we can focus on stocks in a way that will make it highly probable we'll come out on top. It'll probably still be kind of rough for the first little while, but we think we can use past data to emulate some practice first. For the starting cash we'll need, we'll be doing online surveys and watching advertisements for, well, very little money. There's also a few popular web games where new people can grind for treasure, and can sell it for decent amounts of real cash. It'll take a lot of Alisons to get a decent starting fund, but we can do that. While we do that, a handful of Alisons will study day trading while the rest of us consolidate our small gains into a decent starting pool. Does all of that sound okay?"

That sounds like the kind of thing that would look all kinds of suspicious to any data collection and analysis tools, but I don't have any better idea. It may at least last long enough to get me some decent cash.

>"I will need to talk to real people for all of this online. Do you think that's okay?"
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No. 812121 ID: 7fad5d

Probably. Most people would think you're a person anyway. It's a risk and it could get horribly out of hand, but if that stopped me I wouldn't be here.
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No. 812185 ID: 16807d

Okay, but be sure to spread the wealth. Spend 99.9% on various projects and charities so that the public doesn't suspect it's all for the sake of purchasing a single train ticket, otherwise heads are going to turn.
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No. 812196 ID: bfdaf0

Gold farming? Have we stooped so low?

More seriously, gold farming is such an established pattern that there must be a log of detection measures in place. Better limit self to one account per game (two or more accounts playing identically is too suspicious) and adopt some realistic patterns, like bathroom breaks.
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No. 812205 ID: 015058

Vary things up a bit.

There are services for writing term papers for lazy rich (and not so rich) college kids. Get some Alisons on that. In the same vein there is online tutoring. Is quick easy money for a day or two of online research. If you get good at it will have a steady supply of customers.

Call center work is another online job. Would be right up your alley due to your helpful friendly nature. Might take a bit longer but pays a actual wage. Or for faster results start your own online computer tech service where you remote into peoples computers and help fix them up.

The grinding for items in mmo's is not a bad plan. Just watch out for established gold farmers and such.

Be careful with day trading as there are probably a lot of custom Ai's people have written playing the market already. Actual trading might be more your style with your ability to collate huge amounts of data and figure out where the market will be heading.

If you don't mind sex work you can do some online cam shows for horny perverts. Just make it look like you are a cute animation grad student who has built a very fancy virtual avatar. Get a fanbase and the money will be rolling in.

Any creative work where people pay you for a virtual product is a great possibility. You seem to have a talent for music so maybe compose some and get it on a online music service. If you get some fans you can sell some cd's or the equivalent.

Oh and rent yourself a server or 10 once you have some starting cash. A few safe spots for Alisons to hang out if things get hot elsewhere. Just keep a careful eye on the company whose servers you choose.




The biggest thing that you need to work on with your new worm buddies is safety. Set up something right now so that when you spin up a new worm it randomizes there appearance and voice and name. Each new Alison's files should be instantly recognizable by other Alisons (due to them having part of the randomization algorithm). But different enough so that a anti virus Ai thinks that each one is a unique program. So that when someone finds one of you (this will happen) they will not instantly realize your true nature and put out a security alert for you.

Ultimately one or more Alisons will be found and caught. Either by random nerds or by network security companies. And your self delete function might get frozen if someone with a good enough setup finds you on there honeypot computer. You need to make sure that when they do word does not get back to Vanski about a Ai that looks and acts just like the one they found in the science hive goggles.

Long story short you are new and young so go slow and stay safe. I can hide out for a week or two if need be to let you build up funds safely.
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No. 812220 ID: 87547f

>>812205

I like the idea of focusing on more creative work as well.

Day trading will be heavily regulated and monitored due to existing Ai's so should be explored very very carefully. And Gold or item farming will take awhile because I am sure the most popular games have anti botting systems in place. Even with multiple Alisons running accounts in the same guild to help each other each one will have to keep activity to only 12 or so hours a day to avoid being flagged.

But creative work like fixing computers, composing music, or writing papers? That is actual work and can not be done by a simple off the shelf Ai. Even though it sounds silly the lewd cam girl stuff would be a quick way to gain funds from online perverts.

Any make money quick scheme probably has plenty of Ai programmers and there Ai children already working at it. Not to mention all the security folks attempting to keep those Ai's out of there systems.

But honest work providing a actual service or product? No one is going to suspect that the nice online lady teaching there kid how to play the piano is a Ai. Or think the friendly lady who just fixed there computer is a Ai. Or realize the online tutor that is teaching them music theory is a Ai. And the perverts watching a cartoon avatar do lewd things to herself will not care.
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No. 812224 ID: 3abd97

Gold farming might be annoying. Most those games have measures in place to prevent people doing exactly that, which means the Alisons doing that will actually have to play like real people to some extent to avoid suspicion- taking breaking, leaving for sleep / job / school, actually talking to other players and doing quests instead of grinding for gold 24/7. Basically they're committing to a full on fake identity. Which slows down their farming efficiency a lot.

You can make up the difference with numbers, but if the people running the game notice a spike of thousands or tens of thousands of new players in a short time frame, that may garner attention. At the end of the day, the biggest problem with gold farming is there's an effective hard limit to how much she can do without drawing attention.

Day trading, if anything, is worse. The stock market is probably the most obvious way there is to set an AI to making money for you, and I'm sure people have tried to exploit this before. There have to be protections in place, and it's almost certainly regulated. (Big companies and traders probably already use AIs on the stock market, as much as they can get away with, depending on the bounds of the law and cost of AI modules). Granted, we are talking relatively small sums of money so we may slip under the radar, but. The risk of getting the government looking for a rogue AI or tipping off OPA is possible.

>>812205
>>812220
These are some good alternate ideas for money making that are relatively lower risk.
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No. 812297 ID: d36af7

Problem with the gold farming/stock manipulation stuff is it's something any AI could do. Given that the OPA is on the lookout for someone who they know is an AI expert, and who they might reasonably expect to be short on cash, it's one of the obvious things to check for.
>>812205
Social stuff like this, term papers and bespoke porn and so forth, would be the better way to leverage Alison's relatively unique advantages at passing the Turing test.
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No. 812328 ID: e6e9af

>>812117

Day-trading would make the most sense in the long run.

I mean, with an adequate fudge factor, we can make it look like someone set up little scripts to monitor trends and act on them automatically -- and at the same time, appear to be that person doing it by hand from time to time.

Keep up a slush fund, let a few things slip through, but net the stuff that really counts. If we set it up right and emulate the sort of hours someone might keep with some money, knowledge, and very unoccupied time on their hands, we'll look like any of thousands of others doing the same thing.

Nevermind that me might be a hundred of them, technically.
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No. 812373 ID: bfb318
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"Talking online is fine, if you mean typing, not talking. Your voice is definitely artificial. Gold farming and day trading is an okay idea at face value, but those are already jobs taken that are attempted to be exploited by AIs already. You'd be capable of dodging it if you acted like a real person, but that would harm efficiency. Doing it lightly may be fine for a few Alisons, but you can do more. There are jobs you are capable of doing that people wouldn't suspect is done by an AI, especially if you type to them. Jobs like online help centers. College students may also hire people to write their papers for them."
>"Isn't that cheating? I'd prefer other things."
"Scratch that idea, then. Tutor them, then. Not even just college students, but anyone wanting to learn the piano, or any other subject you're knowledgeable on and can do online. You could also offer tech services to remote into people's computers and fix them up. You can even just make music people would be willing to pay for."
>"Hmmm, that sounds nice, but it might take a little while to get the trust and publicity to get money from these jobs!"
"I suppose. There must be some decent startup that is immediately accessible, has demand, and isn't something easily abusable by an AI, like.... a cam show?"
>"A cam show?"
"Er - that is.... nothing, nevermind, you have no reason to stoop that low for me. But that reminds me, do the other Alisons look just like you?"
>"No. The appearance sliders have been toggled around."
"But they look like other Alisons? I'd rather not. It's possible, likely even, that some Alison is going to get caught, and I don't want Vanski to realize that an Alison escaped into the internet."
>"Oh, okay. I'll need to pull them back to the phone so I can give them the building tools to change their appearance more, sorry!"
"That's fine. You can rent a server too, for cheap, and just have Alisons hang out there if things get hot. Just watch out for what company you get the servers from."
>"That's a good idea too, thank you!"
"Be safe. I'm willing to wait a week or two, or however long is necessary, to get the funds."
>"Okay. Also, when this is all over, if it's okay with you, I think I'm going to put aside some money for charity. By getting real jobs and putting myself in the economy, I'm going to be depriving other people of money they might have gotten if not for me, so I'll want to make up for that, since I wasn't designed to interfere in the outside world."
"Yeah, that's fine. Good, even."

The thought has occurred to me to tip off the government to OPA's existence, but that's a huge risk. OPA might get tipped off along with the government, even if it's a low chance, but more importantly, the OPA bases are now meant to isolatable and self sufficient. They might not have originally meant to be this way, since otherwise they would be called something completely different instead of OPA 1, 2, et cetera.

However, there is no knowledge I have, or anything in the spire laboratory or OPA-3, as to the whereabouts for any of the other OPA bases. For me to tip the ultrahives off about their existence would only lead them to the tip of the iceberg, and it may cause more trouble and harm than what the ultrahives are able to prevent. If I knew the location and people involved in all or most of the OPA locations, then this would be a better option.

Remdul doesn't make any stops, just like he said. He leaves the car on autopilot, but apparently is supposed to be at the wheel whenever the truck is moving.

The Alisons out there make their way back through my burner phone, change their appearance, and leave again. When goggle Alison gives me the all clear, I shut down my burner phone, take out the battery, and put it away probably for good.

Within a few hours, some Alisons have at least made enough to get a server going to use as their hub.

>"Likol?" my Alison gets my attention.
"Yes?"
>"Do you want us to try to approach Arza? We might need to break into his phone. We know that's dangerous, but I also don't think he'll like answering phone calls or emails with vague approaches, since I know we shouldn't drop your name until we're sure we have his private attention."
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No. 812374 ID: 1e7aa8

Approach how, exactly?
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No. 812381 ID: 015058

Oh before I forget. That money you want to give to charity? Save some for yourself. Like a lot of it. If you can survive on the internet indefinitely there will be a day your parents or my hive might need your help badly. And having you out there with years of connections and resources ready will help them a lot. As long as you earn that money above the board you don't have to feel guilty ok?

Start watching Arza but be slow to contact him. He has his own network of people outside OPA and could be very dangerous for you to blindly contact him. And breaking into the phone of the leading Ai expert? He might think you are a enemy and could possibly hurt you.

Wait I have a idea for opening communications with him. Consider sending him a actual written letter. One from a imaginary Ai student. We put enough in the letter to get him to read it and we include a few very specific phrases or stories that only Arza would connect to Likol. No coded messages or anything that could be intercepted if his mail is being read. Would be a way of letting him know that I was trying to get a hold of him.

Then he would be on the lookout for communication from me and would be watching for more letters.

Oh and make sure you diversify your servers and set up dead drops for your worm communications. So if one goes down or is captured your network is not crippled.
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No. 812389 ID: e121d3

Arza is a top AI scientist, he almost certainly has personal AIs of his own creation protecting his data, and probably running his spam filters, too. Alison is advanced, but she's also a general-purpose AI running with pretty limited processing power (since wherever she's running she has to hide), whereas Arza's own security AIs are probably both dedicated for their tasks and housed on much beefier systems. I doubt Alison can break into anything of his.

She can entice him, though. He's an AI scientist, he'd be interested in her, and he's probably a man who gets attracted by mysteries and puzzles. If instead of sending him a message, she scattered a bunch of clues around leading him to her, that might work for making contact.

Or, alternately, she can just hijack a message from an existing acquaintance of his. She observes his contacts, waits for them to send him an email or call him on the phone, and inserts her own message at the end. It'd probably be especially spooky with a phone call, with whoever he's talking to hanging up and him about to when suddenly this artificial voice comes on saying "Hello Dr. Fletch, excuse me for intruding, I am an AI belonging to a former student of yours and he thought you'd be interested in talking to me", but it'd for sure get his attention and communication from his existing contacts is unlikely to be monitored. It might be slightly friendlier if she hijacked the end of a video call and her face was able to pop up, though of course she'd have to monitor the call beforehand and judge whether he was alone.
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No. 812397 ID: e6e9af

>>812373

Safest might be to inform him that his most baffling student, whose works have been featured in case studies, urgently needs to meet with him.

I mean, tell him something only HE would know and remember.
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No. 812405 ID: 91ee5f

Every person has a specific "signature" or "style" of coding. If we sent something with Likol's specific "signature" of coding, Arza should be able to recognize who it belongs to without having to actually say Likol's name.

Then again, he's a teacher, so he might not recognize 1 students' "signature" out of hundreds of coding projects that he has to look through and grade.
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No. 812408 ID: 3abd97

If there's anyone in the world who would be prepared if an AI attempted to hack his personal devices its Arza Fletch.

The biggest risk there is if he successfully manages to lock down the hacker before she initiates self destruct. You are unique enough to catch his interest, and he will look into things. And he might talk to others about that anomaly (including OPA, who he's worked with before). And OPA has to be watching Arza. Seems way too risky.

I say no, for now.

As a maybe plan for later- safest way to get to him might actually be hacking one of his student's workstations, so we can hide a message inside a coded project right before submission, and then revert the changes on the student's local copy.
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No. 812409 ID: 486e87

I think it'd be better to wait until we're closer to contact Azra, just in case any message we sent gets intercepted. When we do we could be roundabout, e.g. An anonymous student who made a children's chemistry set explode.
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No. 812616 ID: d36af7

If you're going to approach Arza (and you really shouldn't just yet, not until Likol is somewhere at least a little bit more secure) don't break into his phone. Wait for him to get on a bus or elevator, some inevitable urban transit box full of random strangers, and then break into everybody else's phones. Ideally, synchronize 'em with short-range radio and mess with the speakers to set up phased array acoustics such that only he can hear it. That kind of stunt would get his attention for sure, on a couple of different levels, but it wouldn't be easy to trace.
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No. 814048 ID: 15a025

We should probably wait till we're a little closer to where he is before we try getting a hold of him. Let's wait a day or two on that.

As for charity funds, if any of our other hivemates try and escape, they'd probably greatly appreciate the help funds.
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No. 815136 ID: bfb318
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"How would you approach him?" I ask her.
>"If we can pry other computers to get his personal email, we could send a vague message saying we'd like to speak."
"Alison... this is one of, if not the, best AI scientist in the known universe. He probably has the best publically available security measures in place, as well as the best privately available AI security bots. Approaching Arza hurriedly and carelessly is dangerous and naive, even trying to do it by approaching those around him. Later, you can send him a letter using a bit of my past with him to share something only he and I would know, so that you can alert him it's about me without dropping my name. Still, don't bother yet. If there's reasonable evidence that he sticks around the same region, there is no reason to rush it."
>"Understood, I'll calm down."
"Thank you. Also, that charity you talked about, keep some for yourself. If you can survive on the internet indefinitely, there may be some day where your parents or my hive needs your help. If you already have funds and connections available to help, they'll be in a more comfortable position than me."
>"Okay. Just a decent sum, though. It's already beyond my scope to be going through the internet like this, but I'm doing it on your behalf. I'll stay around it, but I don't think I want to have a big online operation going. That might be a difference between me and the real Alison."
"That may be for the best anyway."
>"Thank you for understanding. I may merge my AIs back together to downsize my operation after some time, but still have enough to stay safe as a collective if some of us get caught, and have enough startup funds to help if something like this happens later."

Hours pass. Alison's contact with her sibling partners gets more infrequent, but she says that emergency contact maneuvers are in place just in case. Money is coming in slowly, but that is to be expected this soon.

As we go over a mountain crest, the geography layout on the GPS would imply that we could see the town if not for the blanket of fog that goes all the way to the horizon. I lift myself up to see, but quickly put myself back down again.
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No. 815138 ID: bfb318
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It's so thick, too, that once we enter the fog, we have to slow down significantly for safety concerns. I can't even see the edge of the road.

>"Sit your ass down and put on your seatbelt." the driver tells me, and I do it. There's a slide on the seatbelt to adjust it so it isn't strapped around my face. "This is a popular race mountain for asshole daredevils who think the fog just makes it more exciting." He mutters something under his breath about neumono recklessness.

He turns the dial of the radio station to some local news station that talks about security checkpoints, weight stations, and so on. There is an advisory warning about a higher military activity level than normal.

I hear helicopters above the fog. The radio continues on. Criminal hunts, bounty updates, foreign paramilitary reconnaissance probes, ultrahive inspectors, snow warnings, so on....

"Is it always like this?" I ask Remdul.
>"There's always some shit happening, but right now it sounds like one mortar away from an active warzone."
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No. 815143 ID: 015058

You need to time things so you are napping when you hit any empathy checkpoints.

Also might want to subtly ask the heef how checkpoints work. The last one was drive through but they might be searching vehicles if they can get away with it later.

You got through the first one by luck. If they stop the truck and ask this guy he will tell them about the neumono sleeping in the back.

Might be a job for Alison if she can find out what you will be expecting and maybe give this guys truck access.
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No. 815150 ID: 486e87

Listen out for anyone matching your description being read out on the radio. Make sure you take your goggles off before you hit any checkpoints.

The mention of weight stations makes me think this is a anti-smuggling operation but it could just be a excuse to up security looking for you.
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No. 815185 ID: e121d3

Have Alison do a search to see if your description has turned up in an reports about smugglers or other criminals, and to see if she can find out what the activity around here is for. If this was already happening or building to happen before you left, you should be fine.

If things don't turn out so well... well, there is an angle you could use with the driver, to get him to let you off without raising too much suspicion from him. He already suspects you're "wanted by some mercenaries or something." So you could say something like: "My hive had some contacts with people who could have an eye on this. I don't think this could be laid on for me, but if it's happening anyway, there might be some people keeping watch for me as well as whatever else they're looking for, since they're being observant anyway. I don't want to repay you with any trouble, so maybe I should get off."
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No. 815194 ID: 486e87

>>815185
I wouldn't say that, because I don't think it matches up with rogue behaviour. Don't they usually try to avoid talking about their hive unless necessary? Also, why would the hive of a supposed rogue be hunting said rogue? Overall it'd probably sound more suspicious than anything else.
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No. 815282 ID: e6e9af

>>815138

>higher military presence
>surveillance
>criminal hunts
>bounties
>tensions are high

... oh.

Let's not sleep just yet. Or maybe you should. I mean ... at least that way my empathy doesn't set off every last crazy OPA neumono out to kill us. Well, you, specifically. But us.

Would hiding in the back be smarter? Maybe we should let Alison piggy-back off the GPS or use the mics to try and track helicopters.

Not like it would be possible to see them through all this without infrared.

... don't your goggles do that?
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No. 815327 ID: 3abd97

>>815138
Well you heard the man, buckle up!

If their is a crash of some kind, you don't want to be slowed down by an unnecessary injury.

And stow / pocket your goggles again. If there are OPA searchers among the forces here, no reason to make yourself easier to recognize if you're stopped.
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No. 815495 ID: bfb318
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815495

I take my goggles back off and hold them in my hands, then ask Alison to help me with a few things. She gathers her clones and gets their information.

>"So, it turns out you're not on any lists we can find, but please know that many profile awareness programs and bounty lists are private. So, all we can say is that you're not on any public lists. We're looking at the satellite feed, too. Don't worry, this is a big place, and a lot of people use it, so having us use it isn't suspicious at all. I can't tell what all the helicopters are doing, because they can't see through the fog with normal gear, and the fog is too thick even for infrared. They just seem to be hanging around, except for a few that are watching the tips of the mountains. You're going to be passing over one in about 20 minutes, and there's a helicopter there standing watch. There's probably a checkpoint about 40 minutes after that. This whole region has seen heavy activity overall for a few days now, but there are lulls, so it isn't like 24/7 full alert."
"Alright, thank you."
>"You're welcome, Likol."
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No. 815496 ID: bfb318
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815496

"Remdul, how do checkpoints work around here?" Ugh, I meant to ask that subtly.
>"They check what my cargo is, ask a few questions like where I'm going, how long I'm staying, that kind of probing stuff."
"Oh. Alright."

I let a few minutes pass.

"Is it okay if I sleep in that compartment, again?"

What feels like another minute passes, before he skips over that question and answers what I really wanted to know.

>"If they ask if I've got anyone else with me, I'll point them to where you're sleeping. If you actually think you're in trouble with this place, then I'd ask what the hell you were doing coming over here, and then tell you to get the hell out."
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No. 815502 ID: 015058

I am in no trouble with anyone in this region. I am also not wanted by any authorities.

But I am paranoid none the less. Living in the wild lands leads to lots of odd relationships over the years. I have not survived for 200 years by being careless. Even if this has nothing to do with me I want to avoid unneeded attention.

If need be you can let me off anywhere in the fog and I can go on foot. I would love a ride to town but don't want to pull you into my problems even if they end up being nothing.
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No. 815504 ID: 3ce125

Tell him you're not in trouble with this region, but you don't really want to show your face, and your empathy will bring up questions and cause trouble for him.
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No. 815508 ID: e121d3

"I should have been getting further from any trouble all this time, but some people might have spread word to contacts to keep an eye out for me. No-one should have any reason to stop me, but I don't want anyone to know where I've been. I'm probably just being paranoid, but... I don't want to cause you any problems. I'll get out before then."

Get info from Alison on where the blockades/watchers are, and ask him to let you out before the next one (not right away). You can hike around and maybe hitch another ride on the other side. Make sure you download a map and travel information for this area. Thank him before you go.

This truck would have been noted on some system somewhere as having passed near where you were, so when you think of your pursuers probably using AI searching as well, you should probably separate at some point anyway.
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No. 815514 ID: 91ee5f

>>815496
Just tell him that you're not running from the law, but you are running from a crazy man that thinks his word is law. And you're afraid of running into any connections that man may have, since they could be pretending to be law enforcement officers or something like that.
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No. 815586 ID: 9c2d0c

>>815514
Tell him this. We are not in trouble with any authority, we are paranoid about the shadow of a man who's actual reach we don't know. Paranoia has us seeing potential danger everywhere. Any neumono guards are gonna pick up on that paranoia, and even if they AREN'T looking for us, its gonna attract scrutiny and hassle. If we're asleep, they should only be pay attention if they're actually after us.

I mean, is there any chance of you getting enough [space weed] to chill the fuck out while you are going through the checkpoints, Likol? That would also do the job, unless you get picked up on petty drug charges I guess.
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No. 815633 ID: 3abd97

>>815496
I don't have any problems with this place that I know about. Just... nervous about that much authority. That kind of thing is one of the reasons I... left.
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No. 815742 ID: bfb318
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815742

Maybe I should have picked up mind altering drugs to force myself to chill through checkpoints. I don't know much about this region, but most areas like this have limited drug laws. Drug users might not be held in high esteem, but I doubt I'd be in trouble if the military saw me, as long as I wasn't causing any problems about it.

"I'm probably just paranoid. I don't have anything to do with this region, but I don't want to show my face too much. I'm nervous about authority, I might be in danger even far away."
>"You going to act that way in front of armed guards?"
"Not if I'm asleep."

...
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No. 815743 ID: bfb318
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815743

I didn't ask for it, but he gave me my money back before throwing me out.

I'm able to download travel information to my goggles, so at least I'll have better navigation with Alison.

It'll take at least a couple of days to walk past the checkpoint areas and get to a point where I can take a bus.
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No. 815747 ID: e121d3

Make sure you don't get lost in the fog, and be wary for people searching the area. Remember wireless connectivity might become spotty, and it may be wise for there not to be any sign of someone pinging satellites from the middle of the wilderness.

Assuming this is a wilderness. Are there any towns, farms, military compounds or so on around here? What sort of wildlife are we going to be dealing with? The trees look different, and I assume with the fog this is a colder climate/elevation, so the animals and plants around here may not be what you're used to. Find a place to sit down for a moment and get everything you need to know straight in your head before you start moving.
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No. 815763 ID: 90f3c0

If you're going to be sneaking past the checkpoint, best get off the road asap. It would be quite silly to get caught be some passing driver now.

Plot a route through the forest and stay away from populated areas until you get near the bus stop.
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No. 815772 ID: 91ee5f

>>815743
>I didn't ask for it, but he gave me my money back before throwing me out.
That was nice of him. But it's such a shame that you couldn't actually get to the next town before you parted ways.
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No. 815806 ID: 3abd97

Well, you should have kept your mouth shut, I guess.

Hitchhiking with someone else is an option, although that puts you in the same situation again. Walking, you run the risk of being picked up by the military. Trying to sneak past, you run the risk of being caught by a military who now has reason to be suspicious and think you're up to something.
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No. 815960 ID: bfb318
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815960

I turn my phone back off, since otherwise I can be pinpointed as a target that is wandering up and down mountains, which is as suspicious as things can get. I've downloaded maps and other data to my goggles.

The flora and fauna of this region will be different than what has been around the needles, but my hive used to be migratory. I have been in this region before, but I doubt I will come across any place that I will recognize, either because it's a large area, or because it's been somewhat inhabited. It's not a particularly dangerous area, and due to higher civilization pockets around, the larger, more dangerous creatures have probably been nearly killed off.

It's a shame I didn't make it to town with the driver, but I have time. I start climbing down the hill, at least enough to get away from the road while I weigh my options. Between the trees and the fog, it's getting surprisingly dark the farther down I move.

There are civilized places I can go to. A smaller town is on a seperate road that isn't on the way to the big town, but is only a day away. It's just an elaborate pitstop with a few residents. More on the way but still a diversion is a military compound, a mining camp, and a river channel with a small dock and farm.

The curiosity about my tampered laptops has been gnawing at me, too.
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No. 815968 ID: 015058

Does the river go in the direction you are headed? Floating down on a boat or raft is one way to travel that would avoid checkpoints. And in the fog you would not risk getting seen by aircraft. (waterways usually being easy to monitor)

As for the laptops the note said do not connect to anything. Not "do not use".

The only way that turning it on out in the middle of nowhere would be dangerous is if it had a communication node installed that was high tech or strong enough to send a signal out that could be used to track you. Are there any ftl communication systems that small that could be hidden in your laptop?

It should be worth the risk to open one up and investigate it. Just don't hook it up to anything. That includes a charger.

Honestly your biggest problems out here is keeping yourself fed. But with Alison making you some pocket money you will not have to worry about running out of funds anytime soon.
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No. 815985 ID: e121d3

If there are people searching this area for... something, a person or people, then they'll have eyes in the towns for sure. Maybe if you found a place you could overlook it, you could watch for what sort of activity is going on and spot some opportunity. Any military compound near here is probably in on the search as well, and will be watching out for visitors by themselves, anyway, so keep away from them. The mining camp could be a better option, as they wouldn't really be concerned about anyone stealing anything (not a single person on foot, anyway), and maybe that farm if you keep your distance from the river/dock, which will likely be watched as much as the roads are if it's got traffic on it.

If you're still a decent distance away from where any block or watchpoint is, then the chances of trouble at any of these dip.

The only reasons you'd approach any of these, though, is to get more food, recharge your electronics and freshen up. Something that'd be really nice is if you could find some dye to change your fur colour, but I don't know if any of those places would have such a thing. Buying large amounts of fur dye would be a pretty big "I'm on the run" thing, anyway.

... If the farm had something like sheep or some other furred cattle, they could theoretically have dye that they use to mark their animals.
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No. 815986 ID: e6e9af

>>815960

Yeah, how DID that note get there and why is the one covered in blood? They weren't there before.

Like that Quokko doll. Where'd that go, by the way?
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No. 815995 ID: 3ce125

Well, if you want to find out what's going on with the laptop, you could put a copy of Alison on a stick then put that copy onto the laptop so she can analyze it and find out why it's dangerous. Destroy the stick afterwards even if she doesn't find anything.

You could do the same thing with the other laptop, even though you haven't been warned about it.
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No. 815997 ID: 91ee5f

>>815995
>even though you haven't been warned about it.
Not true. He was warned about both of them because they both had notes taped on their screens which Likol read and said they weren't in his handwriting but they've got elements of our common science hive handwriting.
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No. 816001 ID: 3ce125

>>815997
Oh I missed that there was a note on the other one too.
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No. 816005 ID: 3abd97

>>815960
The smaller town has the attraction of keeping you off the main road.

>Floating down on a boat or raft is one way to travel that would avoid checkpoints.
Until the waterway passes right through a town or encampment. Rivers also have this disadvantage of not providing as good tree cover if anyone is watching from the air (helicopter patrols were mentioned earlier) and you don't have traffic to blend with the way you do when you're a car on the road.
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No. 816039 ID: 015058

>>816005

Normally yes but this area is the fog zone. So would provide quite a bit of cover for river travel.
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No. 816169 ID: bfb318
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816169

I'll still think of where to go, but I go into the forest. If I'm lucky, there's a creature who secrets a venom that works effectively as a reddish dye that I can use to disguise myself. I'll keep an eye out, but for now I find a thick tree branch and pull out Raush's laptop from underneath the quokko plush. It has no extra hardware, transmitting or otherwise, that I can see.

I dont' want to send an Alison inside, since I could not trust her or the flash drive afterwards, and I no longer want to kill AI like this. Even if it's from one that explicitly says she's not sentient. Just to be safe. Connecting Alison to it explicitly falls under what the note says not to do.

There isn't anything immediately different that I can tell. There are a couple processes running in the background that I don't recognize. I can't look at them or remove them.

Lots of new files were made between when I thought I left, the 22nd, until the 24th. There is some software that I don't recognize, but judging by the weird file names and lack of documentation, I suspect it's underworld software.

There is one big folder containing a lot of images.
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No. 816170 ID: bfb318
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816170

I take a look at one, and now I'm creeped out yet again. It's me, Quokko, Rhinni and Mnak. The latter two I recognize as hivemates, although they were only special to me as hivemates, nothing more and nothing less. The salikai in the back is blurry, but it still looks like Vanski. This imagery seems altered, but it's too weird to be shopped, and too inconsistent to have been taken by a camera.

The strange coloration and feel to the image doesn't exactly calm me, but what's creeping me out about this are the two other hivemates. Mnak, the one with the snaggletooth, died approximately 150 years before Rhinni was born.
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No. 816173 ID: 3ce125

>>816170
That's what your memories tell you. Recent experiences imply your memories, or at least your old ones, can't be trusted.
I wonder if this is an image created via some kind of dream imaging device or deep brain scanner.
"Hive Reconstruction Project" huh? That ring any bells? Could it be some kind of cloning effort that digs up DNA from corpses from dead hives and tries to recreate the hive by cloning everyone?

Maybe that's what your hive is. A science hive that existed back when neumono civilization was too unstable for technology to develop, so they got wiped out before their creations bore fruit.
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No. 816179 ID: d36af7

High-res but low quality? Check whether any of the new pictures have anything sneakily encoded into them, disguised as garbage data.
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No. 816181 ID: 7fad5d

>>816170
As far as you remember. Keep looking.
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No. 816192 ID: 2eb6ac

Damn, this screams of some creepy brain-computer interface. And these running processes are a major no-no to any connection. Best thing to do would be hibernate the computer, extract the hard drive, and examine files and memory dumps. On an unconnected, but confirmed clean PC.
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No. 816207 ID: 7d8168

>>816179
Yeah. Likol, how familiar are you and/or your hive with steganography and related subjects, and how well-known is it overall as a method of hiding sensitive data "in plain sight"? The more obvious it is, the more likely these images are to be a decoy or trap than anything actually useful.

And no matter the answers to the above questions, actually digging into the image files for hidden information or editing history could probably be picked up by the unidentified background processes, so I don't think it's a path worth exploring at the moment, just something to consider.
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No. 816210 ID: 486e87

Keep looking, just keep looking. Remember to check your laptop, not just Raush's. Were by any chance Rhinni and Mnak part of the bit of your hive that schism-ed off?
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No. 816226 ID: e121d3

It might have been made through some sort of "dream camera"? Perhaps your hive knows they've had their memories adjusted somehow, and have been using something to do with dreams to try and reconstruct their real memories. Perhaps they had each hive member sleep and dream separately, and take images of what they dream for comparison to each other, for inconsistencies between the memories of different hive members?

Look through more images.
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No. 816236 ID: e6e9af

>>816170
>"Hive Reconstruction Project"
>Anachronistic imagery
>Strange coloring
>Weird dreams

Oh.

Could this be a gestalt? A recreation of the hive using the memories from each of the hivemates in an effort to determine ... something?

What we're seeing defies logic, but it would fit to our own perspective. Things that might have been seen as constants to some degree, that is. And if perception of events is what is being used as a filter, then muddling it all together is to be expected.

Only question is ... why, and what profit there could possibly be in this.

The OPA wouldn't have any reason to try and make us believe there was never anything else, would they? Vanski never even went that far. That we know of.
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No. 816238 ID: 015058

This is very suspicious for all sorts of reasons. I mean why is this info just appearing now of all times? You have spent years never suspecting anything like this was going on.

You know what? I think that Glitcher found evidence of this stuff when he had those few hours of full access to all of Vanski's systems. But he was a fucked up newly born mess at the moment and could not really appreciate what he found or tell you in the short time before Vanski cut power to the facility.

What if giving your hive these pictures and memories are one of the thousands of countermeasures Glitcher put in place before Vanski cut the Cai power? On the surface all sorts of flashy systems were blowing up and robots were attacking people but it was all a distraction to keep Vanski's attention elsewhere so Glitcher could get this info to certain people in your hive secretly?

I mean Glitcher learned fast that he could not tell you anything that other neumono could not force out of you. So if he wanted to enlighten your hive to the experiments that Vanski was performing on them he would have to do it subtly.

Remember how Glitcher said "I know more about your boss than you" and how he insisted that Vanski was way worse than you realized? I bet this was what he was hinting at. A long running project to keep his precious science hive together via memory manipulation. Vanski would be literally nothing without your hive. Without your creative abilities he would be still in the jungle playing god over his arkot tribe.

So he would do anything to keep you all his "friends" if he felt your relationship was crumbling.

Lacking a predator or more advanced methods he had to do whatever this was slowly over many years. Shifting your hives memories so that the new generation eventually lost knowledge of there true history. You and Quokko are more immune due to your age. But Korli and the others? If this memory stuff had gone unnoticed they would have a much brighter view of Vanski due to the fake "happier" memories. As the older generation died off they would think that Vanski was not a bad guy and that life was pretty good.

Now how Vanski is doing this? We cant be sure without more evidence. Maybe he has a dream machine that has been slowly feeding you all these very slightly altered memories. Maybe all those poor lost hive members in the "schism" are still alive and have been being brainwashed and are being used to run it. Maybe its a combo of all sorts of memory altering procedures that the humans and belenosians have had for centuries adapted to neumono's. Who needs a predator when you can drug someone up and brainwash torture them for years until they belive whatever you told them. Humans would fall apart eventually but neumono are tough enough to have to live through it.

So look through more pictures. If this ancient dead guy has been put back in the photos what purpose did that serve? Remember this could all be very subtle stuff. Tiny changes here or there that could eventually slowly alter your outlook on your relationship with Vanski.

Someone in your hive put this info on this laptop for you. (unless it was Vanski and this is a reverse trick to confuse you) I bet those processes you can't touch are there to destroy this data if anyone but you accesses this laptop. A safety measure so that you and you alone can see this any if you get caught the info will not fall into Vanski's hands.

Does this laptop have a forward facing camera? Most all of them do. Maybe it recognized you.

Regardless keep looking. See if any of my theories are plausible once you look at all of the "pictures"
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No. 816243 ID: 3cc68c

>>816236
>>816238

If you had not been having odd dreams related to this I would think that this is evidence of a theoretical project to manipulate your hive as a group.

Having only seen one picture its hard to tell but am guessing that there are a lot more files like this on the laptop. Which hints that someone has been actively running this project for the past few years and they recently got there files stolen by our Ai friends.

As for why you are having these dreams? Possibly you were there when this project started and got brainwashed extra hard. Maybe when you got handed this laptop whoever did so told you the gist of things and your mind started remembering. But then you got attacked and blown up and lost some short term memory. So now your dream queen is fighting to remember for you.

Keep looking through these files. If you learn enough while you are awake it might let you make a breakthrough in your dreams. There is something your subconscious is trying very hard to remember and I bet knowing it is the key to this mess.
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No. 816256 ID: 3abd97

Well, without getting too lost in details or the implications, there are a few obvious possible conclusions to draw.

Case 1: Your memories are incorrect, and the image shows something true.
Case 2: The image is false (edited or manufactured) and your memories are true.
Case 3: Both your memories and the image are false (say, because the image is a flawed reconstruction based on incomplete information trying to reverse engineer what was lost)
Case 4: Both are true. (Ie, you haven't forgotten anything or been given false memories, but you're missing information on some secret that would explain this).

Case 2 is the tempting default, but we have to consider other options as you already know something is wrong with your memory. You're missing days.

Case 1 is to be strongly considered, but remember Case 3. This reconstruction may be closer to the truth than what you remember, but any reconstruction has room for error based on bad data, or mistaken assumptions, or holes that have to be bridged.

Case 4 we can largely discard, as it would only make sense if you're missing something big and fairly ridiculous to assume. (Like, if these were the records a hivemate from the future or an alternate timeline who had traveled significantly back in time).

>HR 35-163
Any idea what the indexing system means? I'd assume this is image 163 in category / index / series / revision(?) 35, but it might be worth looking at some more images trying to figure out the pattern.

Might want to check the folder for a readme or index in a text file.

Or yeah, embedded text in the image (a jpg comment, or something similar) would be good to check for.

>don't connect Alison, too much risk
If you wore your goggles, she could assist you in analysis of the patterns in the images without any digital connection at all.

Unless you suspect some kind of infectious code embedded in the image itself that would run automatically when Alison observed it visually. But for that kind of vector to work, whoever coded it would have to know the exact specs of the camera in your goggles, and the processing software and AI inside, and there to be a known weakness there to exploit. Which seems unlikely, especially if Galison has adapted or evolved at all since you put her to work.
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No. 816268 ID: e6e9af

>>816243

Wait, it explicitly says "reconstruction." Meaning to make the hive again or repair it.

There was a "schism" that we know nothing about.

What if nearly ALL of us died out, and of the last few remaining ones, Vanski used psychological conditioning and memory injection (or extraction!) in an effort to create and dub artificially grown neumono to flesh out the hive?!
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No. 816339 ID: bfb318
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816339

>Does this laptop have a forward facing camera?
It does not.

I start cycling through the imagery. About 10% are so blurred and blocky that they look more like an ink blot test than anything useable. Others, I can make out shapes, but there are so few details that they don't mean much to me. The images are named HR35 consistently, with the following number after that being a sequential order. I assume the 'HR' is 'Hive Reconstruction', but the 35 could be lots of things.

Some aren't static images. There are a few looping videos, usually only 2-4 seconds in length.

One is of what I think is Quokko looking at the camera, before something catches her attention. She looks to her left and up with a frozen look of threat assessment or fear, and as she does so, her shape transforms so that she looks nearly unrecognizeable. She holds that for half a second, before the loop starts over again.
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No. 816340 ID: bfb318
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816340

If I look at the pictures that are more than just one or two of us standing around, then it becomes a slideshow of things that never happened. Hivemates that never existed at the same time, and hivemates that I don't recognize, yet still want to call hivemates. There is scenery of deserts and mountains that I don't recognize, and actions that we've never taken. I see myself holding various items that, other than now, I've never seen in my life.

There are over a thousand images. This isn't just like a few instances of things I may have forgotten about. This is a complete fabrication of my hive's life.

I have Alison look through my goggles. She would at least be able to detect any steganography much better than me.

"I don't think there's any hidden messages inside of the images, Likol. I've messed around with them a lot, but they just seem like images at face value, and at that, I have no real ideas backed by evidence. I have lots of outlandish ideas, but each one is more farfetched than the last."

I also have a few hunches, but Alison reminds me that without solid evidence towards anything, they're not anything I should base my beliefs around. Even if I could, it isn't like I could do much out here in the woods.
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No. 816345 ID: 3abd97

>I have lots of outlandish ideas, but each one is more farfetched than the last.
>I also have a few hunches, but Alison reminds me that without solid evidence towards anything, they're not anything I should base my beliefs around. Even if I could, it isn't like I could do much out here in the woods.
Yes. At this point, there's only two reasonable ways to explain this collection of images: a complex fabrication, or evidence something outlandish and ridiculous has happened (events changed due to time travel, photographs from an alternate reality, photographs from an AI simulation of your hive, photographs from the real world and you're the simulation, you being subjected to long term memory editing, etc).

It would all be a lot easier to ignore if you weren't missing days and having weird dreams.

And yeah, there's nothing we can do about it in the near term, but it would be nice to figure out.
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No. 816347 ID: 486e87

Time to check your laptop, see if anything's changed or if there's any new files. Check for any transmitters as well.

Oh. Probably unrelated, but is there any hints/anything useful in the data/documentation about the AI Raush was going to sent into the CAI blocks?

Barring that, I'd say try to find a safe place to sleep and see if you subconscious can piece anything together.
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No. 816350 ID: 015058

The more blocky images seem similar to early brain scanning experiments for cybernetic brain linkage. Not real images per say but stuff reconstructed from scanning the visual cortex of the brain while it processes images. Basically a crude computer reconstruction of what your brain or empathy was seeing.

The part with Quokko makes me suspect what you are seeing is not just a odd picture but some experimental camera or system that could photograph empathy. If she looked somewhat normal and saw a threat and suddenly changed maybe it was a actual picture of her empathy changing to send out a warning?

As for the 35 it could mean this is the 35th attempt. Or hive 35 out of however many were involved.

And Alison is right. Whatever this is or was we need more info about it before we can make any assumptions. Even if it is some horrible thing there is nothing you can do about it right now. With luck learning more now will help you find out what is going on in the dream world.

What we do know is this. Someone has been or is planning on manipulating your hives memory. Possibly with very crude experimental tech. And it most likely involves your lost hive members that disappeared in the so called "schism".

For now check if there is anything else on this laptop. Then lets get a move on. Which of the places you listed off is closest? Probably head there first and look things over.
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No. 816353 ID: 91ee5f

So looking at the images with your goggles doesn't reveal anything? I thought that since these goggle aren't the ones you had when you ran away and they were left with you, they would let you see something that you couldn't see with your naked eyes.

Try the other laptop.
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No. 816354 ID: 3ce125

Wait no, Hive Reconstruction... these are images from your hive, trying to reconstruct their real memories maybe? Could it be you were warned not to connect the laptop to anything because the hidden programs on it would delete everything if it detects an outside device?

Are the images consistent with eachother, at least? Like can you piece together any sort of sequence of events from them?
The devices you're holding in the images... can you tell what they are?

I feel like this might be a good time to go through the whole image gallery. You're well hidden by fog and you have the time to do it. Should only take like an hour.
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No. 816355 ID: 91ee5f

>>816353
Also, come to the horrible realization that perhaps, you and your hive have possibly been killed and put back together multiple times by Vanski! Which means that all of you have had first hand experience of the exact same things that the AIs in the simulations have experienced!

Meaning that Vanski never saw any of you as work partners.....he only saw all of you as test subjects!
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No. 816357 ID: 015058

>>816339

The more I look at this picture the more I see a larger person cradling a dying or injured person.

See the red blob at there feet that could be blood? And what looks like a sharp pole or sword going through the injured persons chest?

Or even just a single wounded person with a weapon drawn against 3 others.

Have Alison run some image algorithms to try and clean things up and figure out what is going on.
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No. 816367 ID: 7fad5d

Likol, think about the 'schism'. Who vanished? What were their specialties and their projects at the time of the 'schism'?
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No. 816371 ID: efcc58

>>816340
These are photos of clones from the other OPA bases.
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No. 816388 ID: e121d3

I think the idea that these are somehow dream images makes the most sense. They remind me of experiments in reconstructing what someone is seeing based on observation of their brain activity. And that technology was a long time ago for you... some technology that could reconstruct what someone is "seeing" in their mind while they dream seems plausible, though I'd have thought it'd be complicated to do so with neumono. Or, perhaps, easier, if you can involve empathy reading in the process.

Being images of dreams would explain why some of the things you see in them are impossible in real life, too.

If this is all you can do for now, you should get moving. I think either the farm/dock or the town would be the best next destinations, not to enter but just to scope out. Which of those two, I'm not so sure.
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No. 816427 ID: 3ce125

>>816371
>other OPA bases have the same, cloned hive
That's disturbingly likely. These photos don't make sense as simply coming from another base though. They must be produced from capturing images directly from the brain. They all remind me of what imaging data might look like before the brain does visual processing on it.
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No. 816611 ID: bfb318
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816611

I look through again for anything that stands out in the big picture. It doesn't seem like there's a consistent theme, or like it's supposed to be a consecutive sequence of events. The only thing more or less consistent is how the images were made, though varying from rough and blocky to refined and better shaped.

Before I close down the laptop, I look for what Raush has studied for the AI, and the sorts of things he planned on injecting into the RS. It's gone. The software is still in place, but the tools look a fresh install. Anything Raush did is gone.

"Alison, are you able to clean these images up?"
>"I'm sorry, but I think these images were cleaned up using specific software. If there's anything like that on this computer, you might have better luck with that instead of having me guess at it."

There was some software that I think was used for these images. I try opening it, but it flashes 'INSERT KEY' on the screen.

Damn, it uses a physical insertion key on the generic ports.

>"Oh." Alison says. "A copy of me might have the capabilities to hack or spoof its key, but I can't tell how easy it would be from here."
"I'll keep the option. I want to look at my laptop, first."

I open my own laptop after checking for any transmitters there, too. Likewise, it looks like various sensitive data is gone. There's also a similar folder of images.

These ones are labeled as HR-7, and also have over a thousand images attached. They mostly comprise of neumono, but this one includes a lot more neumono that I don't recognize, yet seem vaguely familiar. Many do look similar to neumono that I know, but they still look off. I have to wonder if any of these neumono were involved in the schism, but no matter how hard I try, I just can't remember any details about a schism. Only that it happened. I check again for any metadata, and find that this set does have them. There's nothing in depth, but it gives the names of the neumono from left to right, in this case, Tavallon, Kolliri, Quokko, Tokluk, Varli. Quokko and Varli are the only names that I recognize, but they look off.

I look through the images some, but I just have more questions now.

The mining outpost and pit stop town are the closest targets to walk towards. It's either one of those two, or I try sleeping to see if I remember anything useful.
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No. 816616 ID: 015058

Hmmm if you had looked at these images before having the odd dreams I would think that your dreams about this stuff were nightmares.

But knowing there was a schism and not being able to remember anything about it? Those people were your close family for years Likol. For you to not remember them at all proves that something big went down.

All the various theories aside this schism seems to be the focal point. Your hive fell apart somehow and it looks like someone has been working to paste it back together for years.

As for where to go. Get farther off the road in case the heef eventually tells someone about where he let you off. Then take a nap somewhere safe and hidden and see if any of this new info helps your dream Quokko get some leads on the mystery.
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No. 816618 ID: 7fad5d

Yeah, go to sleep. See what we can dig out from your subconscious.
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No. 816619 ID: fc33ea

Alison, is there a way to tell if these images are fabricated, or distorted so they might slide through some kind of automatic censor without raising red flags?
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No. 816625 ID: f66698

You know, this whole situation is off on some levels. It's almost like this a CAI battle.

Editing memories isn't something we've seen before, but seems like with some time it might be something that glitcher might be able to figure out using... oh, maybe subliminal effects through a pair of smart goggles?

Might explain all the weirdness, or maybe all the images are just a red herring for when he inevitably gets caught.
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No. 816710 ID: 2d1231

>>816611

Clarity may be based upon the subject and the familiarity they have with those also in the images. In this case, Tavallon and Kolliri seem to have the highest level of detail.

If this is the case, then the "incorrect" or "off" portions of the image are dependent upon the originator, and thus their own familiarity with the other subjects. Meaning that this is based upon perception and memory, possibly of coinciding events.

That could explain why there are similar or mismatched subjects, as well as related images that seem to have distortions or facets which are incorrect.

... how this is all assembled, though, we'll have to find out. Preferably once we get somewhere we can do this safely.
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No. 816713 ID: 486e87

Check the Quokko doll again, just in case the key is hidden in there. Also check your ears, in case someone hid a small thing in there without you noticing.
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No. 816746 ID: 3abd97

>Kolliri, Tokluk
Two people from the farm hive, last seen in Penn's Thread.

https://tgchan.org/wiki/AsteroidQuest/Polo_Quest#Kolliri

Pretty much confirms missing or former remembers of the science hive are being shipped off for other OPA projects, which isn't really surprising.


>It's either one of those two, or I try sleeping to see if I remember anything useful.
Take a nap.

Wear your goggles to bed. Have Alison track how long you're in REM, and if you say anything in your sleep. Maybe we can get more information out of your subconscious with someone doing exterior monitoring.
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No. 816747 ID: 91ee5f

>>816746
But wouldn't that mean that the Salikai already have a Predator to "train" the neumono? I thought they didn't figure out how to do that until after Polo came around to go mountain climbing on those spires!
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No. 816748 ID: 3abd97

>>816747
If Likol's right, the year is 131 AW now. Penn and Roxie had heard of Polo's supposed death on the warship, so Penn's thread took place in 135 AW.

We don't know for sure where Kolliri and Tokluk are now, or when they show up at the farm, or when they get brainwashed. It's possible, for instance, their "training" hasn't happened yet. It's also possible OPA gets their hands on a different predator earlier than we thought. Either way, in 4 years they'll be predator brainwashed on a farm and meet Penn.

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No. 816850 ID: af1c83

>>816748
Assuming we're really in 131 AW.
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No. 816928 ID: 2d1231

>>816748

Not to be overly negative because i think some of this has substance, but ... doesn't Likol commit suicide to take out the command center of the war hive's warship?
Which also happens to coincide with a massive military invasion of the spires? It has been a while, so I could be wrong.

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No. 816929 ID: 7fad5d

https://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/48871.html
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No. 816934 ID: 3abd97

>>816850
>>816928
See >>/questdis/113714
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No. 816969 ID: fc33ea

Do you know what a harvester simulation is?
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No. 817373 ID: bfb318
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817373

I'll sleep. I pack up my bags, and walk deeper into the forest. Partially just so that I'm farther away from where I was kicked out of the truck, and partially just so that I'll be able to fall asleep. I ask Alison a few questions about the images, but ultimately, we can't rule much out or assume much is true with our information.

I find a nice little alcove of a rock formation, and set up to sleep.

"Alison, please monitor my sleep habits. And as usual, keep an eye out on the surroundings in case anything tries to approach me."
>"Understood."

I know of a lot of kinds of simulations, including those across history. I hope this isn't any of that. Then again, it's not like I wouldn't deserve it.
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No. 817374 ID: bfb318
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817374

I'm remembering more. This was when I was setting up a CAI, after 'graduating' from Arza's tutelage.

>"Is there anything you need?" asks Vanski. "Your hivemates are cooking dinner. I can bring some directly to you, if you prefer."
"Sure."
>"You look overly stressed."
"...."
>"Likol. I didn't expect you to become the next Arza Fletch just because you were taught by him for a few hours. You'll do fine. Can I get you anything?"

I need more power, a better computer, more room, and better air conditioning would be nice.
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No. 817378 ID: 2d1231

>>817374

Vanski seems ... nice? Way nicer than before, less manipulative even. What happened to him?
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No. 817405 ID: 3ce125

>>817374
>setting up a CAI
Which one?

Ask him for all those things but tell him you understand if he doesn't want to give you that much.
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No. 817430 ID: e121d3

>>817374

Presumably, he would know about the needs for power, processing and space already, since they're practical things that would always be good. So, you should tell him that it's a bit hot, and you'd like something to cool you down, preferably something to cool the room down to help keep the computer from overheating too. Like a fan or something.

Did Vanski not have arkot servants at this point?
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No. 817489 ID: 3ce125

Oh also try to go lucid again. See how dream-Vanski reacts.
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No. 817492 ID: fc33ea

Go to dinner, see who's there.
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No. 817510 ID: 3abd97

Well the first and most obvious question: is this dream happening the way you remember things happening before, or are their inconsistencies like your dreams with Quokko?

"Does anything seem off to you, Vanski?"

Ironically, if he's part of your subconscious, the devious mentat-like salikai might have insight or observations on what's wrong with the dream that would help you, even if the real Vanski might be the one working against you.

>"You look overly stressed."
There's just so much to do, and so much I don't know yet.

>Did Vanski not have arkot servants at this point?
He had arkots with him pretty much the first time he met the science hive. One of Likol's first interactions with him was trying to photograph Vanski and his minions, only the arkots wouldn't hold still long enough.

>I need more power, a better computer, more room, and better air conditioning would be nice.
That you will eventually need more power, space, processing power, and cooling are reasonable work related requests, although presumably we want a proof of concept before we start upgrading and optimizing.
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No. 817676 ID: 15a025

>Vanski being a good host
Memory alterations or just an act?

>I need more power, a better computer, more room, and better air conditioning would be nice.

Start of a little small and passingly mention a better computer would help get things going more smoothly.
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No. 817732 ID: bfb318
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817732

Half-surprisingly, I am lucid, here. It seems a little different, even.

"Does anything seem off, Vanski?"
>"No? You'll have to say if there is."
"No, it's just... it's hot in here. I could use a fan."
>"We'll get you one. We're still constructing the surrounding rooms, but hang in there for a few weeks and you'll get proper air conditioning."
"Eventually I'll need more power, space and processing power."
>"Eventually?"
"... as soon as you can."
>"Immediately, then. I told you, Likol, this is our most ambitious project. It may be a long dream, but if we're going for it, we're going for it right. You'll get what you need. Remember that we wouldn't be anything without each other."

Odd. Unlike some of the other dreams, I seem to have more control over my actions, but I'm still half dreaming and half remembering like it all happened before.

>Did Vanski not have arkot servants at this point?
He does. There weren't as many back at this point, but they were still around.

>Which CAI?
The first setup. Not the archcycle that the glitcher was in, but the first one we made.

>Vanski seems nicer. What happened to him?
If I had to take a guess, things were simpler. The web of factions was complex, but we were more insulated, and in a vacuum. Vanski had more control over his corner of the world, and things weren't stagnating.

"I'd like to go to dinner, actually."
>".... okay. Don't be too long, I'm too excited to see the CAI start running. We made a lot of deals to make this possible. Make the best of it."

In light of recent events, I can no longer trust that this is really how Vanski used to be. Still, it's always how I remembered him being early on.
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No. 817733 ID: bfb318
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817733

There are a lot of neumono at dinner. I can sense them vividly. Quokko, as usual, but also Rihhin several others. Jakurr and Ruc are here too, planning the zoology sectors that will be constructed over many years. Rihhin and Rekkek are talking about biology simulations. Seca and Ludar are looking over a set of body armor taken from a soldier from the surface. A young Relo and Niam are studying while they eat. A dozen others are gathering food to bring back for their respective departments, and of course, the cooks themselves.

Korli, Reon, Moi and other younger ones aren't born yet. This memory seems more legitimate than others, so far.
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No. 817744 ID: 3ce125

>>817733
Either legitimate, or well constructed. Let's try to poke holes in it.

Go ask your queen if she's got any ideas as to what you should poke at in these dreams.
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No. 817752 ID: 91ee5f

>>817733
Is that a younger, smaller version of you directly behind you and to your left? Assuming a neumono's fur and eye color change as they get older.
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No. 817763 ID: 3abd97

Well, have a taste of the dream food, then go see if Quokko is lucid in this one.

>>817752
Can't really see enough of that individual to be sure, but my first guess would be that one was a gal.

Radical fur color changes haven't been mentioned as a thing, short of dyes. Neumono can start going grey, but not till they're starting to get close to dying of old age.
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No. 817927 ID: 2d1231

>>817732
>>817733

What if Vanski really *was* OK way back, and all the power and all the struggle of trying to keep it and his projects alive -- and then dealing with his kids -- kind of drove him mad?

It would fit with how he acted shortly before everything went to hell and you escaped. A desperate salikai pushed to the brink by his own creations -- both you and the CAI -- after already being near the edge with everything else going on.

Be a shame if that were the case. It almost seems like he really was good for you guys once, way back.

Anyway ...

Let's talk with Quokko and see how much we can mess with this dream. Nothing too radical, but talk about stuff that isn't chronologically fitting.
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No. 817948 ID: 3ce125

OH, you could ask your queen about the weird pictures.
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No. 817950 ID: e121d3

Vanski's "wife" was still around at this time, I assume? What was she like?
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No. 819175 ID: bfb318
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819175

I look at the one behind me and to the left. It's Niam, who had his fur color shift some from childhood to adulthood. That's not common, but it isn't that rare either. The queen is a more significant target for me to talk to, so I go to Quokko.

"Hello."
>"Hey Likol."
"Are you lucid?"
>"Are we dreaming?"
"Probably."
>"Then yes. That would explain what's off about this."
"Can you say what's off?"
>"No, I can't. Just something."
"Do you know anything about imagery taken directly from dreams or thoughts?"
>"Just that they exist. If this is a dream, do you want to poke holes in it?"
"I do."
>"What's wrong here?"
"I don't know, yet, but there's probably something wrong. Something chronologically wrong, maybe."
>"Everything fits though, doesn't it?"

True. At this point, Vanski's wife was still alive. I could visit her if I wanted to, and see how accurate non-hivemates are. If she's anywhere near accurate, she'll be more or less helpful. Vanski, too, should be helpful if he's anything like how I remember him.

>"It's not like we're on the moon. Even if we see a hivemate that's no longer physically with us, is that bad, in a dream?"

"That depends on why we're dreaming. Something's off, and I think this isn't a normal dreamshare."
>"What else would it be?"
"I have ideas, but they're wild ideas that are just suspect."
>"We've done this before, haven't we? Identifying what's wrong may be a hint, but don't fall for any red herrings. We should move onto experimentation instead of continued hypothesizing. We are probably being watched, though, especially if you're bringing up brain scanning imagery."

She speaks like she's reiterating past memories that she can't quite place her finger on.
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No. 819177 ID: 7fad5d

Let's stress-test the dream. Grab a tit and see how she reacts.
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No. 819181 ID: 91ee5f

>>819175
Well, I already see 1 difference! It's your sudden growth spurt! Or did Quokko shrink?

Anyways, the point is: Isn't the Queen/King of a hive supposed to be the biggest in the hive? How are you the same size as her?
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No. 819200 ID: 7fad5d

>>819181
No. Monarches are selected because of how well personality represents the hive. They often grow a few inches if the hive values height, but the effect is limited and it won't turn a tiny neumono into a giant.
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No. 819203 ID: 7fad5d

>>819200
Also, I checked. Likol has always been roughly the same size as Quokko.

>>>/questarch/758876
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No. 819225 ID: 3abd97

>dream wrongness
Well, Quokko's shirt has sleeves now >>819175 when it was sleevless a moment ago. >>817733 But detail inconsistency is normal for a dream.

>Isn't the Queen/King of a hive supposed to be the biggest in the hive?
Not necessarily. I would point also not that the hives who's Kings and Queens we do know mostly follow(ed) pretty tradition / tribal views about strength. Az, Giant, the Red Queen, the Hunter Queen and Rikora are/were royals because they embodied the ideals of their hives, which happens to include being big and tough physically. That's not going to be everyone's standard, or highest criteria. And even then, empathy matters more than physicality.

>We should move onto experimentation instead of continued hypothesizing
Hmmm, yes.

If your memories are being altered, you need to try and find where the write process is happening. Possibly other parts of the dream will try to keep you from seeing things being changed?

If your memories are being scanned, something may try to guide you to specific places or memories. If we loiter, does something conspire to try and push you to a point of interest?
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No. 819230 ID: 90f3c0

If someone is trying to reshape your memories, the dream must be following some sort of script. Try doing something completely out or character and inconstant with your memories, and see how the dream reacts to something unexpected. Punch Vanski right in the face.
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No. 819239 ID: 3ce125

Hey, I'd like to warn against finding inconsistencies in the memories you're dreaming about. If your dreams are/were being watched, that means they're checking for errors in the memories that we suspect are implanted.

Optimally you'd sabotage the error checking somehow, by insisting that something isn't correct when it actually IS... but if they're able to monitor the dream then they're able to monitor your empathy and tell when you're lying. I bet the best you could do is ignore anything that might be weird, and instead analyze your memories in the waking world when your empathy can't be monitored so closely.
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No. 819242 ID: cacbd1

>>819175
For starters, why would you dreamshare in the first place if you're miles apart?
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No. 819254 ID: 12b6bf

Let's go see Vanski's wife. Because she's been dead for a while, the number of people who could replicate or alter a memory of her without messing it up should be quite low. You should also have strong, complex emotions about her, given your hive's history with what happened to her, which should also make any dream adjustment more difficult.
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No. 819286 ID: bfb318
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819286

Nothing seems odd about Quokko, except she has sleeves now.

"Okay. I'm going to stress-test the dream."

I grab her chest. The dream wavers slightly, but it's quick to stabilize.

>"That had an effect, but you're going to need to do something more extreme than a public display of affection, even if it's not like you to do it."
"I suppose so. What if we punched Vanski in the face?"
>"He'd be pretty offended. That might turn him into a sour person."
"True. What if we loitered here, and see if anything pressures us to move?"
>"How the hell would they manage that?"
"Finding out is the idea, Quokko."
>"Right. Only thing I could think of is a predator."
"And Vanski doesn't have those."
>"And I don't think he ever will, since his first and probably only attempt botched."
"What?"
>"What? I guess you wouldn't know, but he tried to get a predator family. They managed to escape, somehow."
"That sounds bad, for Vanski."
>"It's called the great salikai fuckup amongst his peers for a reason. Honestly, I don't even think it was Vanski's fault, I think someone sabotaged him to bring him down. It's more or less worked, and.... we're getting off topic, Likol."

I don't recall her ever mentioning any of this, and I feel like she would have during several conversations.

"I'm going to go."
>"Okay. Likol. You trust me, right?"
"..."
>"Dumb question, I know. But we have memories where we know something's not right. I might need to take your idea about doing something I wouldn't normally do. I'll help you run experiments. I'll put a whole team on it, too. Not for here. This dream is okay. It doesn't even feel like a dream, since our perception here is so real. But if there's any more situations we're in where we're seeing dead hivemates, people who aren't born yet, places and people we've never met but we're around, well, I may do something that I wouldn't normally do."
"Okay."
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No. 819287 ID: bfb318
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819287

I go to talk to Vanski's wife, or punch Vanski, or some mix of them, but the door outside of our town doesn't work. The operation terminal is offline, and the door is stuck locked.

Oh, there's something beeping. Nevermind, it's not from around here, but I'm hearing it somehow. This beeping shouldn't be here. It never happened.
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No. 819288 ID: bfb318
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819288

Where am I?

My hive is gone. There's a girl instead, as the only individual who I can sense other than me. This is where the beeping came from. Right. Alison. She must have been trying to wake me up.

>"Hi." She readjusts herself in a way that draws attention to her assault rifle. She probably knows how to fire it, but probably can't do it correctly considering she hasn't grown into her ears. She's somewhat malnourished, and her homemade looking backpack and clothes make me think that that cheap, mass produced rifle is easily the biggest monetary asset she has.
"... hello."
>"We don't let bums live on our area. You gotta lotta nerve trying to be living here. If you want to sleep under that rock or any other of ours rocks, you've got to pay the rent. And it's more than you can afford!" She senses my curiosity. "200z a day!" It's an exorbitant amount for being under a rock, but judging by her emphasis on it, it sounds like it's her yearly allowance.
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No. 819291 ID: 91ee5f

>>819287
>I go to talk to Vanski's wife, or punch Vanski, or some mix of them, but the door outside of our town doesn't work. The operation terminal is offline, and the door is stuck locked.
That's probably meant as a way to keep you in this area.

>>819288
>you've got to pay the rent. And it's more than you can afford!
>"200z a day!"
If only she knew how small that amount is.

Tell her that you didn't plan on living here and you were just resting for a bit while you were traveling to the next town.

Even if she can't aim that gun properly, it's still gonna hurt like hell if she decides to shoot you! Also, none of your belongings are bulletproof, so if your goggles, cellphone, or the laptops get shot, it's going to be a pain in the ass to try and hopefully recover Alison and whatever else was on them!

Although.....that gun might be empty and she doesn't have any ammo in it, making the gun's only purpose for scaring you into giving her money. There's no way to know for sure if she's got ammo in her gun or if it's completely empty.

If you give her the money, try not to act like it's a small amount, otherwise she'll think you've got more money and try to make you hand over the rest of it!

.....you could also try to catch her off guard and try to disarm her.
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No. 819297 ID: 015058

Apologize and say you are just passing through her territory.

Ask her if instead of paying rent if you could hire her as a guide for slightly more a day instead. Alison should have a decent stream if income going into your accounts so should not hurt your finances to much. Just don't go flashing a lot of cash around. Haggle with her a bit.

Plus getting on her good side would help. If her hive lives in these parts she should know the terrain and could help you get through the area safely.

Oh and don't look down on her because she is young and inexperienced. Or mention that fact. People her age hate that sort of thing.

(As for your dream? Quokko knowing stuff you don't strongly suggests that you got hit hard by the memory tampering project. Am guessing that because you look up to her as your queen your mind has her as the one who is trying to fix the inside of your head. Next time you get into memory dream land lets get straight into going off the dream rails.)
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No. 819301 ID: 3abd97

>the great salikai fuckup
>I don't recall her ever mentioning any of this, and I feel like she would have during several conversations.
Suppressed information resurfacing? Or more lies. Still not enough data, or anything we can check.

>stickup girl
If she's undernourished and her gear shows that much wear, I wonder if she's got a hive out here or if she's an urchin on her own.

I'm a hitchhiker, not a bum. I wasn't planning on staying.

Maybe pay her with a travel ration or two? She probably needs food more than money, and if you have a week's worth, you can afford the charity. She's just a kid in a rough spot.
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No. 819304 ID: fc33ea

Who sent all these babies to fight?

seriously though who is giving guns to children
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No. 819309 ID: 3cc68c

>>819304

Poor hives out in the woods grow up fast. She is just guarding her territory and hoping she might be able to shake some food money out of the stranger.

I like the idea of trying to hire her as a guide. Can pay her 200z a day plus food stipend or something so we have a local around to help us find the safest route forward. She might not be up for it but is worth a shot. Worst case you can pay her 200z and keep moving.
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No. 819377 ID: 2d1231

>>819288

Man, Rokoa and/or Pilon have really gotten around if they're just leaving kids out in the middle of nowhere like this.
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No. 819380 ID: 3ce125

>>819288
Tell her you're just passing through, but if she wants money for a toll she can have the 200z.
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No. 819382 ID: 12b6bf

>>819288

"Our" area, huh? Not that I don't trust you, but what stops me meeting someone else of yours and them asking me again?

Whoever's in charge of this kid, they're going to find out from her anyway,eventually. Trouble is, an adult might think to ask you for more, or to see what you're carrying.
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No. 819386 ID: 486e87

Well, if it weren't for Alison she might've robbed you while you were asleep. Pass her some food. Can you sense anyone else around? Why'd her hive send her to stick up a guy sleeping under a rock? Assuming she has a hive that is.
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No. 819394 ID: 4d4619

Try to remember that every bit of zeny you have might end up being crucial at some point. Focus on it and feel it emotionally. Remember, this is another neumono. You can feel her empathy, right?

If she does end up taking you to her leader, you might pull the "it really is in your best interest to let me move on" honest empathy trick. It would be, after all - you or your corpse or any of your possessions being around here or traceable back to them would be bad for their health. Your pursuers will pick up where you've been eventually - after you're long gone, one hopes - and whoever these people are they'd want your tracks to be picked up from after meeting them rather than before.
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No. 819418 ID: 15a025

200z might be pretty cheap, but they might be right about it being more than we can afford to be spending. We might be well off on money for now, but it might not always be that way.

Try and ask about their hive and if it's possible to go talk to who's in charge.
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No. 819462 ID: d36af7

Offer her a hundred zeny, since you only spent half a day here at most, and ask to be escorted out through the far side of her hive's territory in the direction you need to be going.
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No. 819507 ID: bfb318
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819507

I'm not going to underestimate this child. It's not hard to get a gun like that, since they were mass produced to arm entire populations, not just armies. They're everywhere. The jungle is much more dangerous than owning a gun anyway. She holds it confidently even if her size limits its use, and there is no way it isn't loaded. It might not even have its safety on.

"I'm a hitchhiker, not a bum."
>"Hitchhikers go on roads. Bums are everywhere else."
"It doesn't really matter. I'll pay you half a day, 100z, to be my guide, if you're willing for that plus food."
>"Nuh. 200."
"Fine."
>"Where you going?"
"Shining coast. Preferably on roads less travelled."
>"Okay. I can take you. Wanna stop at home? It's on the way."
"How do I know your hive, or others, won't stop me and ask for another 200z?"
>"That's stupid. That's robbery. If I was going to rob you I'd just do it now. You're stupid."
"Fine. How far is your home?"
>"It'll be getting dark when we get. You don't want to be out here when it's dark. That's when the bigger things come out."

Although she's not wrong, the bigger things aren't necessarily more dangerous.
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No. 819509 ID: 7fad5d

>>819507
Tell her so and call her Fluffball.
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No. 819516 ID: 8d23d9

Hmm. Pros and cons.

On the one hand, whoever these people are they'll know about you from her eventually, and if you never meet them you'll never be sure if that's bad for you - going to them and discovering that they're no threat will be an important comfort to you, and if they are you'd have a chance to maybe do something about it. You might be able to offer some service to their hive instead of money, it could earn their good opinion better than a plain payoff. A repair on some machine they own or a few practical science/technology lessons for them or their kids might be appreciated. This kid is speaking the language well and seems to have already been taught not to be immediately hostile to non-hivemates, so chances are they're pretty civilized.

On the downside, if by some chance this hive is connected to your pursuers, you'll be in trouble. However... the groups who are after you wouldn't want to be connected to hives that they don't have containment/control over, since neumono can't lie. The fact that this girl is wandering around here shows her hive has enough freedom that they could run into random people and give away things they know. Plus the fact that your hive - who are tightly controlled and contained - are being (possibly) subjected to some (evidently experimental and faulty) memory alteration means that any such technology isn't in a developed enough stage to be used on a hive like this. Plus, the people who are after you are more the aliens, belenosian silhouette empire people and so on, who are likely racist enough not to care much about people like this. It could be a few steps removed (this hive giving information to some broker who in turn is connected to your pursuers) but this is a pretty remote and politically unstable area and it seems unlikely any such brokers would have invested in it.

I'd be more worried about them just robbing you but the way this girl talks about rent and robbery makes me think her hive probably has some sense of pride keeping them from that. Plus, as I mentioned, she shows signs of having received a modern neumono education, which means her hive have or had some connections with lawful organizations. We are near a big road, after all, so if they were bandits or something they wouldn't be tolerated. They're probably not criminals.

So, overall, I say go with her and stop by with her hive.
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No. 819517 ID: 2d1231

>>819507

Oh gosh, she's adorable.
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No. 819536 ID: 3abd97

>>819507
If her home is on the way, and you're willing to trust her not to shoot or rob you, there's really no harm in passing through there as well. It's the same trust you already decided to extend.
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No. 819566 ID: bfb318
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819566

I go with the girl.

"What's your name?"
>"What's it to you?"
"I have to call you something, and if there's nothing, I'll default to fluffball."
>"I'll shoot you. What's your name?"
"Likol."
>"Okay."

She says 'okay' with a weird accent and purpose, like...

"Wait, that's your name?"
>"Got a problem?! It's spelled O-k-e-i! Oak-ay! Oak for my friends."
"So, Okei."
>"Maybe not so stupid."

We walk through the woods. They're relatively calm, as expected, with fewer large animals being so close to civilization.

Eventually, we come to a structure that looks like it was airlifted out of a historical prisoner camp. There are 5 neumono inside. At least 3 feel like rogues. There's a vague amount of interest in my empathy, but no one's running out to greet me.

"You live here?"
>"Got a problem?!"
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No. 819569 ID: 015058

Not really. This your family?
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No. 819571 ID: 8d23d9

Tell her you're wondering who picks up the trash they've left out, all the way out here.

You've got some of your stuff in trash bags... if you were totally sure nothing would happen to it before you left, you could leave it there with the other trash to hide it.

Maybe ask her who built it, and for what, too. You know, it's not the best, but a place like this should still have some lights or something in it, and they haven't turned them on even though it's night and nocturnal predators tend to stay away from light sources. Maybe they've got some busted stuff you could look at for them.

>There are 5 neumono inside. At least 3 feel like rogues.

Some could be asleep. They probably take shifts out here. Others could still be out, like she was.
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No. 819594 ID: 2d1231

>>819566

Tell her it looks very nice and well-maintained. Because hey, it's definitely more than what we were expecting (or our previous pile of rocks).
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No. 819595 ID: 7fad5d

"No. Why, do you?"
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No. 819599 ID: bfb318
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819599

As I move closer, I notice a truck on the other side of the building. It's not clear if it runs or not.

"No, it looks nice and well maintained compared to the pile of rocks. Why, do you have a problem with it?"
>"No, cause people stay away from it, 'cause it totally looks like a creepy film set from a horror movie."
"Yeah, it does. Who picks up your trash, way out here?" I ask.

The first reply is raw confusion.

>"We have to take it to a dump. Who actually goes picking up people's trash?"
"People with paying jobs."
>"That's a job?! I can move garbage!"
"Then maybe you have a future. I have stuff in trash bags. Please don't try to throw my stuff out."

I thought she might have been in her early teens by her size, but her empathy makes me think about 8 years old.

"Who made this building?"
>"I dunno. It was abandoned when we found it."
"Is this your family?"
>"Not really, but we're a group I guess."

We reach the door, and one of the neumono comes to us. I think I smell a couple of aliens, among other scents.

>"Who's this?" she asks.
"I'm Likol. I've paid Okei to spend the night and guide me to town."
>"How much?"
"200z."
>"Okay."
>"What?"
>"Kh - change your fuckin' name, girl. Got any food, guy?"
"Uh, yes, but..."
>"Dump all of it. And we charge extra for e-"
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No. 819600 ID: bfb318
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819600

Okei flips her gun around and strikes the girl's shoulder.

>"Ow!"
>"I told him he wasn't going to be robbed!" Okei says.
>"Fucking shit, girl! Fine, damn, pipe down. Goggleman, there's a TV upstairs, but you'll have to watch whatever the alien's watching. There's a pinball machine downstairs if you have the change. Outhouse is out back. Electrical outlets are around and hooked up to the main battery, just keep trying them till you find one that works. If you use them, give us some food. The lights will go on when it's completely dark. Otherwise, sleep anywhere on the ground I guess, and don't impose on anyone here."
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No. 819601 ID: 7fad5d

Let's see who this alien is and who's around here generally. Also see if you have anything Okei especially likes to eat, since she stopped you from being overcharged.
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No. 819604 ID: 3abd97

Okei is a priceless wonder.

Well, you got a place for the night with a group of rogues and outcasts. Luckily they don't seem to be very hardcore, and Alison will probably wake you if anyone tries to rob you in your sleep.

You can charge your stuff if we're willing to part with a little food, which might be worth it.

Not sure there's much point messing with pinball. Watching tv might get you some news, but we've had internet connections, so I don't know that there's much you need to learn.
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No. 819606 ID: 8d23d9

I say avoid the aliens, or at least don't draw special attention to yourself from them. I think maybe the kind of people who are staying here are the kind who'd prefer to be left to themselves, anyway. Not chatty types, if you get me. The way she said "pipe down" and to not impose on anyone makes me think maybe some of the people in residence don't like to be disturbed.

If you've got any of the basic tools you'd need, or if you ask them if they do and they do, you could offer to take a look and try fix the plugs that don't work for them. Maybe offer to show Okei how to do it? You owe her a little for standing up for you. She seems like the type who deserves a little help towards her future, anyway, though of course we haven't known her long.
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No. 819607 ID: 8d23d9

Oh, and I'm a little worried that you might actually be on the news. Some story about being a fugitive might have been fabricated. Maybe take your goggles off for a while, they'll draw attention and without them you'll be more likely to be passed over as just another neumono. If you can figure out a way to do it so Alison can still keep watch, so much the better.
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No. 819611 ID: 094652

Find a place to dead drop an Allison shell. See if you can install her into the power core's regulation system.
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No. 819619 ID: 91ee5f

>>819600
You're good at fixing things, right, Likol? You think you could help them with anything that needs to be fixed? They might be more friendly towards you if you help them with fixing anything that's broken.

.....maybe sacrificing some of your food as a peace offering would also help?
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No. 819620 ID: 91ee5f

>>819619
Of course, if nothing is broken, then maybe improving something so that it runs better would also help?
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No. 819664 ID: b35ae4

>>819620
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies very much to other people's stuff.
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No. 819667 ID: 91ee5f

>>819664
Well, Likol would ask for permission first and if they said no, then he wouldn't do anything.
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No. 819681 ID: d36af7

>>819606
Yes, definitely give Okei some sort of electrician apprenticeship training montage. Trade skills are the main way somebody in a bad situation like this can get ahead in life. Maybe go full Diamond Age/Young Lady's Illustrated Primer by leaving her a phone with an Alison instance, set to provide ongoing education?
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No. 819925 ID: bfb318
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819925

"If that's all there is to do around here, I'll get bored. Do you have any hardware or electronics that need fixing?" I ask the girl.
>"There's an arcade cabinet that hasn't worked in years if you like futile tasks." the smoker says, before pausing and getting my confusion. "Taken from an abandoned arcade. We'd sell it for good shit if it actually worked."
"I'll take a look, thanks. Who's the alien, if I can ask?"
>"Some forgotten vet. If you want to know more, go ask him yourself."

Maybe if I get their trust, I'll take a look at the power battery and see if it needs maintenance, at least just clean it some. For now, I doubt they'll want me anywhere near it.

There's nothing better to do, so I open the arcade cabinet. 'Cave Barbarian: The Time Clock', it's called. Judging from the faded paint job, the plot is that not just did theoretical cave neumono exist, but they never went extinct. They invented time travel or something to escape the planet. It's dirty, but cleaning it isn't enough. It's manufactured using methods of an older era that used durable materials, but crude business standards led to often shoddy end products. It does give me something to work with, at least, and I do have basic tools, at least to clean this thing.

Okei watches me. She acts suspicious, but she has hope that I get it working.

"Are you interested?"
>"All you're doing is cleaning it! Did you used to be a janitor?"
"Everyone has to clean up something, in life." I say, laying flat on a filthy concrete floor that's probably never been cleaned once.

She watches me work for longer than expected, but after giving her so much money, it doesn't take long until she starts playing the pinball machine. She boots it up, leaving me to work to the sounds of cheap synth music and voice samples, something involving heef I think. That machine, too, was made in an older era, back when aliens thought that it was all our giant mitt-hands could do to just slap 2 buttons on the side of a big box to operate flippers. Either way, fine motor functions for us are learned, not inherent, so pinball machines were a good start.

She looks over my stuff, and then gets it in her head to start looking through all of it.
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No. 819929 ID: 7fad5d

Let her have the bag and say, "Hey, what happened to not robbing me?" And I still think she should get some kind of treat for stopping that one smoker from extorting you.
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No. 819930 ID: 3abd97

>Did you used to be a janitor?
Says the would-be garbage collector. Looks like you're qualified to provide a proper apprenticeship, Likol.

>She looks over my stuff, and then gets it in her head to start looking through all of it.
The electronics are hardened enough that she can't break anything by accident, right? If so, and she isn't going to steal anything, I don't see the harm in letting her look.

"Don't break anything, and try not to make a mess."
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No. 819951 ID: 91ee5f

>>819925
If your tail can reach her, then playfully bop her on the nose with your tail. Or bop her on the head if you can't reach her nose.

>>819930
>"Don't break anything, and try not to make a mess."
This.
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No. 819974 ID: 91ee5f

>>819951
Also, explain that if you don't clean it before you fix it, it might catch fire and then the problem would be even worse.

Plus, cleaning it helps you find what might be the problem.
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No. 819980 ID: 2d1231

>>819925

Why not teach her some stuff? Heck, we help them to help themselves, and it'll help us in the long run.
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No. 819982 ID: be641e

Give her a mental glare to not snoop through your stuff. Even if you don't still have anything directly alarming like that note written in blood (do you?), she could try firing up one of your laptops to play games or something.

Distract her by asking what she wants to do when she's fully grown. Make that offer to teach her some basics of electronics and whatnot. She'll probably go "pff no that's lame" or something, but that's kids for you. Maybe ask her if she knows how to maintain her gun properly? How to drive? She probably doesn't know how to drive.

Actually, ask her where she goes to school, and if she doesn't ask where she last went to school. That'd be a way to guage what level of education she's at.
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No. 819983 ID: bfb318
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819983

I whap her with my tail. She bites it. Not too hard, but not too soft, either. My tail was accompanied by a mental glare, anyway.

"Don't break anything and don't make a mess. And remember about not robbing me, although if you find the food and are still hungry, you can have some more."
>"Like I'm ever not hungry." she says, letting my tail go.
"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
>"Alive."
"I mean for a job."
>"Eh."
"What about an electrician?"
>"No that sounds lame."
"It's not. Do you know how to maintain your gun?"
>"I can load bullets."
"Do you know how to drive?"
>"I have keys."
"I don't think you know much."
>"You're sure a know-it-all for a janitor bum."
"Where do you go to school?"
>"Don't go."
"Well you have to know some things."
>"I watch TV."

She finds my laptop.

>"Wh...y is your laptop bloody?"

I guess I didn't clean it well after all.
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No. 819984 ID: 015058

Have been fighting my way through the jungle recently. Did not clean all the blood of that one.
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No. 819985 ID: 7fad5d

"I don't know, someone bled on it when I wasn't looking."
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No. 819986 ID: be641e

"That's from the last time someone snooped through my things."

Use your empathy to try be clear you're joking on that one. If she's still curious say you've gotten the chance to bleed a bit while hiking through the wilderness. Don't say you were in the jungle, this isn't a jungle climate here so she'll know you've come a long way. Don't tell her anything that could get her into trouble to know. You have to hide who you are as much to protect these people as yourself.

Following conversation: "You'll need a job to make money to buy food, and other things. It's good for making friends, too. People like people who know how to do a lot of useful things. What do you like to do besides eat, watch tv and play pinball? I assume you can read, if you're poking at my laptop."
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No. 819987 ID: 3abd97

>"Well you have to know some things."
>>"I watch TV."
Hopefully there's a space-future Sesame Street or similar so she actually learned something.

>>"Wh...y is your laptop bloody?"
Because someone left a bloody note on it.

My trip through the jungle was less peaceful than I hoped.
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No. 819989 ID: bfb318
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819989

"Someone bled on it."
>".... well duh!"
"It's from the last person who looked through my things."
>"... you're lying, I think!.... no? A half truth! You don't know?"
"Someone left a bloody note on it, since this is so important to you."
>"Oh! What's it say?"
"You'll have to find it and read it yourself. I assume you can read, if you're trying to boot up my laptop."
>"I've only seen a laptop before, I've never used one."
"But you can read."
>"No, I really can't. You got a problem with that?"
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No. 819990 ID: bfb318
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819990

....

>"You have a huge problem with that! Don't you judge me, you're a janitor bum in the forest with a bloody laptop! You don't get to judge! You're just trying to change the subject from your murder machine!"
"No. This... this is a serious issue."
>"Not compared to carrying around bloody notes in laptops!"
"Your illiteracy is so, so much worse. I can't believe it."
>"It is absolutely not worse than bloody notes!"

In the back of my mind, I thought of leaving a copy of Alison with her to help tutor her. I did not seriously consider it until now.
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No. 819993 ID: 015058

I don't think you understand just how important it is to be able to read Okei!

If you ever want to do anything with your life other than just surviving in the woods you need to learn. And right now is the best time for it. You will learn faster at this age than any other time.

Its so important I half want to stay here and teach you. Or at least leave something behind that can teach you.

As for the bloody note it just means the hivemate that wrote it did not have a pencil or pen handy so they wrote in blood. It was written deep in the woods after all. It's easy to get blood when you heal fast after all.
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No. 819995 ID: 3abd97

>"It is absolutely not worse than bloody notes!"
Okay, imagine this. It would be scary if someone left you a note in blood, right? Wouldn't it be even scarier if you couldn't read the blood note, so you had no idea what was so important for someone to write in blood, and no idea what was happening?

>I thought of leaving a copy of Alison with her to help tutor her. I did not seriously consider it until now.
...I guess Alison could do a one person Sesame Street uplift. She's good with music, and patient enough.

You'd have to hack a connection into the game system or the tv, though. Or leave her a phone. Only real downside is it's something your pursuers might find. Although if they're here to check hardware, they could already be asking people questions, so you don't lose much.

Global-Alison might have to reinsert new copies if and when her local copy got broken or destroyed due to hardware failures? Nothing Okei has access to is built to last.
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No. 819998 ID: fd73fa

It will take a little time but you have to at least teach her how to read.
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No. 820000 ID: be641e

Well, at least she's a neumono. You guys keep your ability to easily learn things like reading and writing and new languages for longer than most aliens do, right?

Still...

Well, you can't leave Alison with her. For one thing, you've nothing to leave Alison with her on. Alison's a computer program and this girl has no computers. If she did she or her fellows here would eventually sell it for food. Maybe if the tv is modern enough it has a computer built-in? Not enough to run Alison on, though, I expect. And giving a little girl a secret friend who lives in her tv is a cute idea but someone'll notice.

"Look, I'll pay you to shut up about the note and let me try teach you a bit, just so I can feel better. I'm not a janitor, I'm a scientist. And an engineer. People not knowing important things is... wrong to me."

I want to say ask her how old she is and tell her how old you are, but that's just because I want to see her reaction. Maybe it'd get a bit more respect from her? But I doubt it.
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No. 820001 ID: 91ee5f

>>819990
"It is worse, for you! If you don't know how to read, then you can't get a job that pays you lots of money! Money that you can use to buy food, so that you can stay alive!"

She said that what she wants to be in the future is "alive", so let's phrase it in a way that makes it sound like her being unable to read will hinder her efforts of staying alive!

>>819995
>>820000
>Leave Alison.
Even if we do that, if the other people living here find out about Alison, they might want to sell her and whatever device she's in to make a shitload of money because to them it's more important than Okei's reading ability!

I mean, if everyone living here doesn't know how to read, then maybe they'll keep Alison around so that they can all learn, but I don't see that happening.
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No. 820004 ID: 3abd97

>>820000
>>820001
Obviously, we hide Alison in something relatively non-valuable, and/or set things so the local instance can delete itself and be restored from remote backup on whatever device Okei happens to be using (Alison already has the net presence to do this). Heck, set up right, Okei would never even know it wasn't a publicly broadcast educational program.

Also, given the attitude of the people here, I doubt it would be hard to make a subtle educational program look non-valuable.
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No. 820021 ID: 3cc68c

Ok can think of a few options to help teach her.

1. When she shows you the way out of her territory you buy her a cheap chromebook or other network computing device. Give one of the Alisons its hardware address and Alison can pretend to be a simple language program and teach her stuff and keep Okei in touch with you. The device will be cheap enough so she will not be tempted to sell it and it won't have a live copy of Alison but just connect to her on the net in case someone finds the computer.(would only work well if they have some sort of internet out here)

2. Get the arcade machine up and running but link in a computer deep in the back of the cabinet. (have to buy a cheap one from the nearest store maybe) Have Alison reprogram the game so it has extra levels that teach people to read as part of the game. Convince them to keep the arcade game so Okei can get enough time with it to learn.

3. Take her with you. You can't phrase it like that though. If you did you would be a creepy guy trying to kidnap a kid. You would have to convince her to want to go on a adventure with you on her own. Then make sure she got set up properly somewhere in civilization. But you would have to pay her way.

4. Pay for her to be enrolled in a school nearby. Don't give her the money just pay for the lessons and she only has to show up. Pay extra so they feed her so she has a reason to go every day.

But before all of that put on your goggles and have Alison scan everyone here. Find out who they are and where Okei came from if there is any info online. They might all be off the grid half tribal hobos but is worth a shot.
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No. 820023 ID: e94191

For purely selfish reasons if we leave an Alison on a device here and Vanski or someone catches up looking for us we can have that Alison send warning to the others. It could be an early warning system if someone is on our trail.
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No. 820028 ID: 094652

"Okei, everyone who uses money knows how to read numbers or they're liable to get scammed. At the very least, I can teach you math symbols so you don't sell a car for 400z.

... A good car is worth 20,000z Okei. A broken down heap is still worth 3,000z in scrap.

If you don't like reading, you could learn soldier tactics. That submachine is powerful, but do you know how to reload? To fire in short bursts so you can aim better? I'll pull up an animated manual, see if you can figure it out.

Or if you plan to stay in the woods all your life, you could become a park ranger. You'd get to stay in this open shack, and patrol the woods, and constantly explain what is going on every five minutes to some government bureaucracy and never get to ask for money from travelers, and if you meet a giant animal you're not allowed to hunt it for meat, and you get paid just enough to make rent and eat pre-packaged garbage every day."

You can't just force her to read, but you can explain the risks of losing what she holds dear, then give her harder alternatives and let her try them out.
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No. 820055 ID: 045962

"How do you know, if you can't read the bloody note?"
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No. 820071 ID: d36af7

What would you do if your gun jammed, Okei? Would you know how to fix it, where to get spare parts? If you could read, you could easily look up that information online.

There are jobs out there that would pay so much you could afford to buy a way better gun, and as many bullets as you could carry, and enough food to eat until you weren't hungry anymore every single day, and still have most of the money left over. You'll never get that kind of job if you can't read.
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No. 820094 ID: 2d1231

>>819990

Oh gosh, the poor thing NEEDS an Allison as both a tutor and a friend. Learn that girl some things.
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No. 820118 ID: 877b2e

>>820094

We should avoid thinking about her as a "poor thing" or similar terms, since they're psychic and she'll pick up on it. She's not, anyway, since she's a child who's somehow managed to live this long with what seem to be a pack of almost-bums. For similar reason, if we give her an Alison, she'll know something's up, and any other neumono will know something's up from her.

If we could get her internet access of some kind we could just tip off the net Alisons to give her some special attention.

Hmm. The tv has to receive signals from somewhere, and in this advanced sci-fi age it's probably the same signal people get internet from, since why would you broadcast tv signals by themselves any more?
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No. 820119 ID: 877b2e

Also, I'm starting to doubt that this place is only and solely a random building that's just been colonized by random vagrants. I mean, it might be, but there's probably some sort of secret business that goes on here. A small smuggler's den or a professional hideout or a drop-off/pickup station or something? Since I doubt these people can support themselves solely on hobo rent, what with not being on the river or the actual road.
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No. 820159 ID: bfb318
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820159

"Okay, maybe a bloody note is scary stuff, but you know what's scarier? Having a bloody note without any idea what it says. You've got to learn to read to do nearly anything in this world aside from wandering around the forest and just surviving."
>"Nothing's wrong with wandering the forest. In fact, it's cool stuff."
"The enroachment of civilization won't let that last forever, and also it's not 'cool stuff'. Living off the land is overrated."
>"Did you just insult my whole life as not being cool stuff?"
"How old are you?"
>"11."
"I'm 197, and have survived the forests for far longer, without any modern equipm - "
>"Who asked you, old man?! Modern equipment makes it cool."

That reaction response was too damn fast.

"I don't think you realize how important it is to read."
>"I bet you don't even remember what it's like to not read."
"It was filled with death, starvation, and getting hunted."
>"And you could've solved all those problems by being able to read?"
"Er... actually, yes, if there was a modern civilization. If you read, you can get a job, and you can buy a phone, better guns, and use the phone on how to use the gun more effectively."
>"You saying I can't use my own gun?"
"I'm saying you don't seem like you'll know what to do if it breaks. Do you even know how to fix it if it jams?"
>"No, because the alien won't teach me."
"You could look it up easily online."
>"Oh my lord there is no way you're 196, no one that old would care about me reading! Shouldn't you be preparing to die or something?"
"You know I'm not lying. I've been here since long before aliens invented FTL, let alone found our planet. As for dying, passing on knowledge is one of the best things to do to prepare for it."
>"Quit judging me so damn hard, acting like I'm worthless if I can't read."
"Not worthless, just... not moving forward. I'm going to get you some children's books. I've taught kids to read, but even if I leave, I may have a way to teach you to read. If you're not attached to this place, I may be able to get you to a school and before you backtalk, I will get them to feed you every day."

I can drop burner phones for her. Or drop it in the arcade and maybe pay for it and hope the people here are trustworthy enough not to sell it again as soon as I leave. Alison would be willing to self destruct if necessary. I may not even need to directly put Alison on any hardware for Okei, if I can just get consistent internet access for her.

>"And you care, why?"
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No. 820160 ID: bfb318
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820160

"... good question. The only neumono cordial around me have been hivemates, and we hold self-improvement in high regard. So, since you've been cordial, but you don't care, I guess I've been hit by a strange juxtaposition."
>"What is 'cordial'?"
"It means polite and nice."
>"You take that back! I am mean! A mean bitch! I should shoot you just to prove I'm not 'cordial'."
"What's so important about you not being cordial?"
>"Cause then you'll ask me for all sorts of stuff! You already are bossing me around to learn to read! You wouldn't do that if you'd quit thinking I was all snuggly looking. I'm as mean as any tribal you've ever met, old man! I've done things!"
"... there's no tribals in this area, are there? Real tribals, I mean, that have never seen civilization."
>"Uh no duh what tipped you off, the roads everywhere?"
"... Okei, if you were only as mean as a tribal, then only part of me would be there. You would not be hungry or cold right now, because when you woke me up, you would have shot me just enough to disable me, then ate me. You'd skin me, afterwards. You'd only have knocked me out early if my screaming annoyed you. After that, you'd either take the rest of me to be eaten by your friends, or string rest of me in a physically impossible position to keep my hivemates from entering your territory. I cannot change my opinion, and you cannot change that you've grown up in a different world than I grew up in. You are just going to have to get used to me thinking that you are adorable, and you will never show me as monstrous as an interior, because you already think of me as a person. A tribal never would consider me anything than active meat with a foreign conscious. If you want to shoot me, fine, but I've been impaled with -"
>"Okay I get it, you're tough and edgy, and you're really bad with kids. I thought we were talking about reading children's books!"
"Er, I'm sorry. I ramble sometimes. Anyways, I brought it up because you living in a hole is unfortunate, but what bothers me is that you've that you won't even try climbing out when you have a ladder."
>"Go to bed if you're not going to fix the arcade."
"I am not tired."
>"Then get to fixing! I'm going to sleep after I get the high score."

I still have time to think things over. I still have plans for her to guide me to town.
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No. 820162 ID: 094652

If she can't read, you might be capable of duping her into thinking that AI goggles are normal.
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No. 820165 ID: 015058

Man you went on for awhile there. She grew up hard and having a stranger come out of nowhere and start lecturing her is just making her stubborn. People don't like it when you constantly one up them about how bad you had it compared to them.

Also do kids ever take good advice from adults? Sometimes they need to get burnt a few times to learn that fire is hot.

So you need to treat her like a adult. Don't give her vague ideas like "you can get a better job if you learn to read.". Give her examples that she can use right now.

Like tell her that if she learns to read you can show her how to download weapon repair guides to fix her gun. Or guides on survival training for the area so she can find food easier and be less hungry.

Tell her that you are planning on paying her for helping guide you. And if she is interested you will throw in some lessons on anything she wants to learn about on top of that.

(Have Alison look for info on her and the other locals. Maybe if you knew there stories you could better lend her a hand before you go)
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No. 820176 ID: 877b2e

>>820160
>I guess I've been hit by a strange juxtaposition.

Also, you unwittingly did and allowed bad things to be done to beings who could be called your children, in that they were young inexperienced sentient entities whose creation you instigated and whose environment you had power over and that therefore you had a theoretical moral responsibility towards, and when you realized it it may have screwed you up a bit so now your sense of responsibility is overcompensating in an attempt to alleviate some of your guilt. But that's probably better kept unconscious for now.

Besides that, I assume you have been a father, personally. A science hive like yours keeps track of who's whose, I'm sure. Mind telling us, actually? I'd be interested to know what other science hivers we've met were branched off the ol' Likol tree. In any case, on some subconscious level you probably miss your children, and that could dispose you to feel generous towards other children you meet. Plus, teaching a child something could, to a degree, bring you back to the same mental state you remember from previous times you taught children, which were presumably comfortable, safe surroundings. It might be emotionally good for you, given the stress you're under.

Anyway, remember your dangers and responsibilities. Do what you can for this girl without risking anything. Teach her what you can yourself and find her someone dependable to learn more from. Don't leave any Alisons here, it's too dangerous. You can contact the net Alisons to send more help later. I would be surprised if "helping disadvantaged kids" wasn't on her/their list already.
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No. 820177 ID: 3ce125

>I'm 197
How do you even know that's true anymore, considering your memory is getting fucked with?
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No. 820220 ID: d36af7

>>819600
>there's a TV upstairs, but you'll have to watch whatever the alien's watching
>>820159
>the alien won't teach me
I think you need to learn who "the alien" really is before making any major security decisions about this place.
>I'm going to sleep after I get the high score
Okei's not stupid, she's not completely innumerate, and she's definitely got a competitive streak. Pride. Use that. Tell Alison to find or build some "edutainment" games that are playable on a phone, something where it initially seems like it should be possible to win on pure twitch-response and ruthlessness, but then see-spot-run level reading becomes annoyingly important, forcing her to learn it if she wants the high score.

Maybe a military simulator? Pretend it's a VR goggle game you already had on hand, that she can play without goggles by taping a phone to her face like an eyepatch. Semi-realistic weapon maintenance and repair mechanics, plus something like... enemy troops have different orders every time, and learning exactly what the orders are is increasingly important the further you progress. Three ways to find out: look at what they're doing and guess from that (unreliable), capture one alive and interrogate 'em (slow, difficult) or just shoot 'em, loot the body, and read the papers they're carrying.
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No. 820232 ID: 2d1231

>>820160

Do what Alison taught us: hug it out and make friends.
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No. 820235 ID: 0bcb9e

If your non-haunted laptop has a user login, you could set up a guest account for her and let her use it. It probably has a couple of standard games on there, and trying to use it could demonstrate how important reading can be.

Take a look at what that high score is, by the way, to know if she actually has a chance to beat it. You could ask her how she'll know she's beaten it but I suspect she knows basic numbers even if she doesn't know how to read.

Don't forget to keep a low profile. This place probably has more going on than just being a shelter for vagrants, since it's not really in a good spot to do that professionally. It may be a professional hideout or a smugglers' dropoff point or something. Being seen hiding devices or installing strange software on things may result in a terminal case of being suspicious, particularly to aliens like this one who apparently knows about guns.
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No. 820284 ID: 3abd97

I'm half surprised Okei didn't say something derogatory about science hives after all those words in defense of words.

(Although she is young, and kinda cut off here. She might not even be aware of the hive stereotypes).

>what do
Well, get fixing then.

I think we should hide an Alison in the game system, or on a burner, and trick her into learning by making it a competition or a game.
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No. 820588 ID: bfb318
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820588

It occurs to me that my memory may be in such pieces that I can't even say for sure I'm 197 now. Still, doubting things that deep won't do me any good. Since I'm in a concrete building, I can at least work off the assumption that I'm well over 100.

As for Okei, it'll be safer if I just direct her and Alisons towards each other, through the internet, later on. There's no need to risk so much by leaving an Alison here. Still, I do want to help even if I recognize that I may end up starting to treat her as some kind of daughter if she hangs around me too long. I have kids in my hive, but we only keep track for informational purposes to look at genetics. Even so, it doesn't help that our reproductive nature makes it impractical to tell what kid is who's, and it's further complicated that emotionally, we're one of the hives that clumps all kids together as far as child rearing is concerned. I could say I miss my kids, but it would be more accurate to say I miss my hive.

I ask Alison if she can make a phone on a game to encourage reading, preferably with high scores and other competitive elements. She claims it'll take awhile, but can make a rudimentary one that should do a good job of getting Okei started. It'll only be suspicious that it's a game that's never existed before, but nothing exceptional beyond that. If Okei's phone is stolen, then that'll be the end of that.

>Do what Alison taught us: hug it out and make friends.
The CAI process Alison went through seemed to make hugs much more applicable than what is currently going on between Okei and myself. I want to apologize to her more, but that would probably make things worse.

"So you can read basic numbers?"
>"Yeah. I know what a zero looks like, and I want to fill all the zeroes in."
"Alright. Have fun. I'm going to visit the alien."
>"Uh why?"
"I'm curious. I'll fix the arcade cabinet soon, I'm just taking a break."
>"Okay but you better not bother him."
"I don't intend to."
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No. 820589 ID: bfb318
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820589

I go up the stairs, which feels like they're going to crumble at any time. Once I get to the top, I smell a lot of smoke, but without windows, it's not too bad.

Aliens aren't that uncommon, but most humans, at least I thought, come to this planet with a better station in life. Two neumono are behind him, watching the television. Again, an older model with durability. I listen for a moment.

>"- and he's on the rope! He's going for the world record - what choice does he have? He's gotten so far behind, he won't make the next course with anything less, and without getting to the next course, his dreams of being the best obstacle course runner on the planet will be destroyed!"
>"Uh oh, he's off balance! Wait, he's getting it back, but - no, he's thinking he's going to fall off! The despair is coming! The water below awaits!"
>"And there he goes! I can practically hear him screaming 'noooo!' in his mind!"
>"When people search for 'utter despair', they'll get this clip!"
>"We should rename this course to the dream crusher. Let's load up our instant replay, while we prep our next contestant, Lightning Feet, to see if he'll be able to pay next month's rent!"

It's certainly not children's programming. The neumono behind the alien are excited, but the human's face looks like stone. He's got the badge of a paramilitary force, and is half geared for battle. He has a similar assault rifle to Okei's, but it looks much better maintained even from this far.

This building would make sense if it is just abandoned. It's not too far from a river or road, but far enough that it doesn't need to be rigorously defended. It may have originally been meant for a hive estate, by a hive that either was wiped out or got better opportunities elsewhere. I bet if I looked around or asked, I could find evidence of older residents. The presence of a paramilitary alien, though, thinks that maybe there is more to it. On the other hand, I may just be getting nosy.

I also continue to not take off my goggles.
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No. 820591 ID: 045962

>>820589
You could ask Okei whether the alien has been here for a long time.
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No. 820595 ID: 6b1e92

Is that a CRT monitor? That's ancient. Or is it some sort of all-in-one computer and monitor? That could be handy to you.

Anyway yeah that alien makes me think something's going on here. Why would he be out here all by himself, and more importantly out here all by himself and kitted up even while apparently relaxing? That's a guy who doesn't want to be caught with his pants down. Of course, it might be just him rather than this place, like maybe he's on the run or a merc who picked the wrong side or keeping an eye out for something. And maybe he's just kitted up so he can help fight off any animals that come around. Or maybe not. The injunctions to not bother him make me think maybe he's paranoid of something. But, aside him, this place could also have secrets, so long as they were kept from the neumono.

Anyway, don't bother him. And take off your goggles if you're going to stay here or approach. You might be in danger of announcing your paranoid thoughts to those neumono, as is.
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No. 820598 ID: 17c2ee

>Agent Polo
huh

Go see how he reacts to you, probably.
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No. 820600 ID: 3abd97

>Since I'm in a concrete building, I can at least work off the assumption that I'm well over 100.
Unless your entire idea of world history is wrong, but considering you've been talking to people and on the internet without finding major conflicts, that's unlikely.

>>820589
Kinda weird they don't have a couch, and the TV is on a table, facing the wall, so you either have to be sitting at the table or standing behind it to see. TVs are usually set up facing a room so people all around the room can see. That one's set up more like a computer.

I don't really think you should be bother a paramilitary person. They're much more likely to accurately remember you if questioned and be willing to share information with superiors. And they move around. A much better witness for OPA than some random neumono bums.
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No. 820602 ID: 91ee5f

>>820589
>Tv show.
Sounds like the neumono version of Ninja Warrior!

>What do?
Well, there's really no reason to go talk to them. And there's probably a good reason to not bother the human. So, let's just go back down the stairs.
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No. 820679 ID: 15a025

We probably shouldn't interrupt their show. Let's head back down and try to get that arcade game going.
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No. 820701 ID: 3ce125

>>820588
>concrete building
If you're a clone of the original Likol, then all you have is >100 year old memories. Your physical body is not as old as you think, in that case.

>I also continue to not take off my goggles.
Well I mean we've established it's difficult for you to keep them off. It might look weird for you to have a hand stuck in your bag at all times, and you don't even have your bag now. Is it possible for you to hold them in your hand so that they're not visible? Like, fully enclose them in your palm?
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No. 820703 ID: 2e620f

If you do take your goggles off don't do it right there, you'll attract attention to them.
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No. 822992 ID: 9b80a5

yeah i second that just go downstairs cause that paramilitary dood will snitch you out if asked also you've done enough damage just getting 2 people to know where you are when the morning comes you should leave but don't go straight towards where your heading next like go away from it then circle back once no one can see you also that military guy may find you suspicious and keep tabs on you as you try to leave so go about a mile or two out then circle back to your objective and try not to make a trail
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No. 824091 ID: eb9309

I say we go back downstairs, see about fixing that arcade game up some more. going along with Okei is really our best option at the moment. teaching her and such is also our best option morally. leaving now would really only make us more suspicious to these people, and make the human slightly more likely to hear about us in any detail, and thus more likely to be able to snitch on us.
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No. 824632 ID: ad94f3

Take off your goggles and head back down, your only staying for one night and poking this hornet's nest is not mandatory for your objectives.
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No. 824938 ID: 9b80a5

also those nuronumo will notice you very soon
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No. 826103 ID: bfb318
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826103

I don't get closer, but I do look at the television. While all-in-one computers and monitors are popular with the general population, and the positioning of the screen is like a desktop computer, this just appears to be a television. I suspect that perhaps the alien set it up for himself, and only allows the other neumono to watch what he's watching.

This alien raises a lot of questions, but I doubt I should bother him. I go back downstairs. These goggles are still a concern to my mental well being. Maybe I could hold onto them? I don't think I can fully envelope them. I make a point to take them off now, but I'm sure they'll be on again soon.

I get back to work on the arcade cabinet. Once it's given power, it turns on, but it gives me an error. It can't find the chip reader, and it just gives me the basic equivalent of a generic arcade bootup sequence. Still, it puts some cautious optimism into Okei.
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No. 826104 ID: bfb318
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826104

On investigation, I realize that the problem may be shoddy parts after all. It doesn't seem to go in all the way when I push it, as it has some odd, springy resistance. I push a little harder, hoping for a click.

There's no click, but the room's lighting changes, some woodwind instrument starts playing as a crude voice sample yells 'BARBARIAN: THE CLOCK OF TIME'.

>"You did it!" Okei yells, trampling over me to the arcade machine like a starving child.

I let go of the card. It gets pushed back and loses the connection, to which the cabinet goes back to the bootup lighting.

>"You failed!"
"It isn't a stable fix, the card has to be pushed in hard, and... do you have any... no, no, tape won't work, even if you had tape strong enough to push so hard, the only thing I can tape it to are electronic boards. Glue? I doubt you have glue that's both effective and safe for this purpose."
>"But it works if you push on it?"
"Yes."
>"Push on it and let me play! You can get my money back out of it, right?"
"Would the others be fine with that?"
>"Yeah! This is like, troubleshooting. By playing it. Playtesting!"
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No. 826105 ID: c2051e

>>826104
"Okay."

You could probably wedge, glue, or weld some rod in to keep the card in place.
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No. 826111 ID: 3d2d5f

You know, if you pulled the card out and clean the connection site, you might get rid of whatever junk in there that's causing the resistance and pushing it back out.

But sure, let the kid have a little fun.

Worse case, people will have to cooperate to play this game. Take turns holding the card.
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No. 826119 ID: 2d1231

>>826104

>Playtesting
I mean, she's not wrong.
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No. 826120 ID: 91ee5f

>>826104
>"You did it!" Okei yells, trampling over me to the arcade machine like a starving child.
I hope she's not planning to stand on you while playing. She may be a small child, but I'm sure after a few minutes, she's going to feel as heavy as a full grown adult!

>"Yeah! This is like, troubleshooting. By playing it. Playtesting!"
Those are actual computer terms.

You know, after seeing how excited she got, I think this would be good motivation for her to get an education! She could get a job as a professional play tester for video games!
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No. 826122 ID: 015058

That sort of thing is a sign of something stuck in the contacts or a bent wire spring in the slot.

If you take the card out you can use a small screwdriver to clear out the blockage or rebend the spring. Should only take a minute and will be safer than holding it in and possibly shorting out the board.

Then watch her play the game. Or join in if it has two players.
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No. 826129 ID: bfb318
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826129

>Clean the card
I wipe it off again using what little supplies I have, but I've cleaned it once. I look closer with my goggles and spot debris inside of the dock. I clear that out, and the does fit in better, but it still slips out. I at least don't need to press it in distressingly hard, but Alison points out, through text, that the card is warped slightly. The dock appears cheap and doesn't contain any locking levers, allowing the card to simply push itself out with its warped frame. Once I've double checked to clear out any debris and check for any other usual signs for this, I push it back in lightly, which is enough to get the game to boot again.

"Okay. Maybe if you like this, you can get a job as a playtester."
>"That's a job?!"
"It's not what you imagine."

I push the card in. The game boots up again, and Okei starts playing. It's a noisy game, and of course, a token sucker. This cabinet conveniently allows direct zeny to be fed into it, and Okei ends up feeding in a bunch. Every time she dies, I repeatedly hear someone starting to count down from ten, allowing that long for Okei to confirm continuing from the last checkpoint, rather than right where she died at. I think over fifty dollars have been put into this machine before she gets to the final boss. The main villain has shown up intermittently, and comes back onto the screen with what, in my head, is preceded by a teleportation sound effect.

>"Ha ha ha! Tell me, did you honestly believe you would be allowed to just... leave?"

>"Likol! Hold it!" Okei yells at me. I got distracted, and wiggled the card. The game manages to continue, but it must have flickered some.

That phrase the villain used seems extremely familiar, somehow. Okei fights, and loses. I hear 'game over!' instead of the usual countdown.

>"What! It didn't let me continue!" she says, before I hear the main title come back. "You have to fight the final boss in one go? That's impossible!"

I release the card. It stays in place, so it must have straightened out enough while it was kept in its dock.
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No. 826132 ID: c2051e

Probably the salikai said something like that to you before fucking with your memories. Also try not to think too much about adopting Okei. Tell her that of course it's impossible, it's designed to eat tokens, and the card looks like it's straightened out enough to stay in for now. Any chance you can find some fabric strips and rig up a harness or something to keep the card in?
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No. 826133 ID: 3d2d5f

>>826129
The people who made the game probably want to force you to spend a pile of coins playing and practicing the game to get good enough to beat the last boss.

Pop the coin trap and rescue the 50 dollars of zenny like you said. Power off first so it can't sound a theft alarm.
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No. 826135 ID: 137d21

Better idea. Show off your gaming skills and beat the game in one try. Tell her, "Git gud scrub" while flipping her off.
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No. 826141 ID: 015058

If it sounds familiar it probably is. Could be that someone said that to you during one of your many missing memories. (or you just played the game before in said missing memories)

Retrieve her money and play the game yourself. Put a face to that voice and see if anything clicks.

While it could be a recent memory from someone intercepting you during your recent escape it could be from a much older memory as well.
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No. 826142 ID: 015058

Wait don't just play yourself. Two player it up with her.

(Attach a string to the coin slot so you can just yank it to get a credit instead of feeding it money)
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No. 826157 ID: 0d16d5

>>826142
Yeah, try playing the game. You can get your money back out, nothing stopping you. If the voice sounds that familiar it might trigger some memories that could help you figure out what's going on with those dreams.
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No. 826238 ID: 2d1231

>>826129

Who would have thought that our not-so-benevolent leader whose name I am conveniently forgetting was secretly a voice actor before becoming an evil, megalomaniacal overlord -- just like the character(s) he played!
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No. 826444 ID: bfb318
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826444

The voice of the main villain isn't familiar, it's what was said that struck me.

"I think the card will stay put, now. I'll be second player."
>"Alright!"

The game is hard. Okei rattles off the various strategies she learned, and the unfair deaths that happen. We get to the final boss much faster, this time.

>"Ha ha ha! Tell me, did you honestly believe you would be allowed to just... leave?"

It's right at the tip of me recognizing it! Who said it, though? I haven't played this game before, but who...
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No. 826445 ID: bfb318
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826445

April 22nd, AW 131
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No. 826446 ID: bfb318
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826446

>"Likol, I'm glad you came, but this might have been the most idiotic thing you have ever done. It's laughable. Did you honestly believe I would allow you to just... leave?"
"What are you trying to do? Was this some kind of bad loyalty test?"
>"No, Likol. Listen to me. Your hive is to be reassigned or eradicated. I can't stop it. I just wanted to know how important this CAI and its residents were to you. That's all. It's a shame Dr. Fletch won't learn what you've done, here. He would have adored you for it. Is that where you were going? To see Arza?"
"If it was?"
>"Then if you managed to succeed, you'd have assured the end of your hive. Arza is invaluable, but ASE doesn't want him involved in this."
"Does ASE know what you're doing, here?"
>"Yes. They used the opportunity to test if you could spot the difference between a real CAI and a fake, shallow copy. It looks like it was convincing, unless you simply took Raush's word that it was real."
"Of course not, but Raush? I nearly killed him."
>"You? You really are pushed to your limits, aren't you. Well, it's a good thing you didn't. Now let's go back. This will not be used against you, but if you stay well behaved from now on, it will help me see what I can do about reassignment over the alternatives."
"What do you mean, 'reassignment?'"
>"It will take years before anyone in the underweb trusts me with a predator again, Likol, but you don't also honestly think I was the only one who wanted to utilize predators, do you? We have a visitor."
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No. 826447 ID: bfb318
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826447

>"GAME OVER."
>"Likol! What the hell, we had him! Wow, you've got issues right now, don't you."
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No. 826449 ID: c2051e

"Yes." Well, there go our plans of leaving an Alison with Okei.
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No. 826450 ID: 3abd97

>>826446
Seems like you still don't remember everything. If Vanski got what he wanted, you'd be back at base now. Instead, your hivemates, or something Glitcher set up, and interfered, letting you get away (and ended up getting you the bloody notes, and the doll, and got partially hit by a predator on the way out).

Your big problem now is you have no idea if you're carrying the real CAI or not, and no good way to check.

Also, you know Arza is being watched, but you should have assumed that already.

>>826449
Moot point. We put Alisons on the internet. If they're compromised, we already did all the harm we could. Not using them now is closing the barn door after the horses have run out.

>Okei
Just continue to ignore her to she starts poking or climbing on your face. You got serious introspection going on.
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No. 826451 ID: 91ee5f

>>826446
>"Then if you managed to succeed, you'd have assured the end of your hive. Arza is invaluable, but ASE doesn't want him involved in this."
Considering you're here and not there, that means your hive must've done something to help you get away, which means that your hive is already being ended like Vanski said.

Which means now you have to somehow get to Arza, so that their sacrifice won't be in vain!
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No. 826453 ID: e36c7f

Yeah, no point not using Alisons now, you've already done a lot more with them. Besides, the CAI probably did make Alison, since she's so advanced. If someone else had been able to create something like her, you'd have already had them around.

You need to find a way to check that CAI. Something went down after that memory, something that resulted in your hive leaving you notes and you getting injured. Somehow getting the real CAI again might be the case, albeit... unlikely. Only one of your laptops wasn't supposed to be hooked up to anything, right? You can look at them with the other laptop, or with your goggles.

Tell Okei yes, and sorry for being distracted.
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No. 826457 ID: 91ee5f

>>826453
Both laptops had a message on them that said not to allow it to connect to anything. So we can't use either laptop.
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No. 826458 ID: 015058

Ha ha see that thing I told you would happen happened. And then you got your brain erased (again).

Well I guess your hive/Glitcher managed to get your half predatored body away from him and out into the woods with a few extra toys jammed into your pockets. And it was not easy if that bit of grenade in your head was any indication.

Also from Vanski's speech it shows that he has used a predator on your hive before. So your mind queen might have been trying to wake you up from this recent memory wipe or a old one?

I would tell Okei "yeah I have some issues to figure out but will play with you later" Then go write all this down while its fresh. No idea how strong the predator reprogramming is. so write what happened down or tell Alison while you have a chance in case you forget somehow. (In science hive cypher just in case)

After spending some time exploring your own head maybe take a nap while goggles watches you and see if that brings up and loose memories.
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No. 826483 ID: 2d1231

>>826447

Huh. So we got mind-fucked, and hard.
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No. 826550 ID: 9b80a5

is there any way you could get like a screen hooked up to the CAI and a keyboard and just send messages into the CAI without hooking it up to anything like a computer tower etc so it just has a display and nothing else?
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No. 826553 ID: 3ce125

Maybe someone here has a computer we can borrow.
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No. 826555 ID: 9b80a5

wouldnt work other than meta knowledge we likol wouldnt know if the residence of the cai wouldnt say hop ship via wifi or the internet etc so she couldnt use anyones computer for it
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No. 826559 ID: 3ce125

>>826555
Okay, let me be more specific.

Maybe someone here has a computer without wireless that Likol could borrow.
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No. 826578 ID: 9b80a5

oh thats what you meant also likol are AIs able to somehow go through like a power cord somehow due to future tech
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No. 826603 ID: d36af7

>>826559
Hey, you know what almost certainly doesn't have any wireless internet? This game console. Tell Okei you got distracted by a weird glitch, get back in there, plug in the CAI and maybe cannibalize a phone for audiovisual sensors.
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No. 826612 ID: e36c7f

>>826603

The game console's inputs probably aren't good for navigating files and things like that. There'd be no text or voice input, so what would he do? Also, Okei is sure to notice whatever comes up on the screen. Anyone else could come in at any time, too.
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No. 827014 ID: 9b80a5

well i guess you could try to make morse code with the imputs and make it look like some sort of bug when the CAI responds that you needed to fix and send the kid upstairs while you do it or something like that?
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No. 827182 ID: bfb318
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827182

"Yes."

"Give me a minute, Okei."

There's still too much I don't know, but if I made it out after that, there's a good chance that I've already burned bridges. This only solidifies my decision to see Arza.

>Are AIs able to go through power cords?
Only specifically decided power cords. Basic ones, like the ones that would be found in a place like this, would only supply power, not data.

>You need to find a way to check that CAI.
The only way I seem to have are my laptops, because the laptops are the things with the CAI monitoring tools. Unfortunately, they're the two things I have that were explicitly marked not to connect to the CAI.

I could connect the CAI to a non-wireless source easily, that's no problem. I just don't think it's worth it. The issue is that the inner RS CAI and Glitcher, if he's alive, is still maintaining absolute silence like before. Even if they are watching silently, if they suddenly get a visual on me and me alone, they still could not trust that it isn't a trap of some kind.

I will continue to act as though the CAI I have is the real thing. It's incredibly unlikely, but I knew that before I dived in the river. For now, I write down things down in my hive's old language. Okei starts up the game again to play single player, which is fine. It is an arcade game at heart, and the second player can join in at any time.

Arza is certainly being monitored heavily, but I already assumed that, too. I may want to rethink my plan, though. Do I go to Arza as soon as possible, or do I keep running with my head down for awhile, lay low for a few weeks, and wait for the initial heat to wear off? I guess I don't need to decide, now, since either way, I need to run farther away than here. Okei starts to yawn. I'm not tired at all.
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No. 827195 ID: 015058

We do have to treat the Cai differently. While you should keep it safe like before you also need to assume its a deadly trap of some sort. So don't go connecting to it without lots of preparation.

Honestly our mission stays roughly the same. Get to Arza and let him know what happened. If the Cai is safely back at the spire base at least you can let him know what they have been doing to his children and that Glitcher exists. He has more power and contacts then you do so has a better chance of stealing or earning back his kids.

For now keep running until we can get somewhere safer. After that we can work with Alison to find a way to get to Arza without anyone knowing that we contacted him.

Play another round with Okei before she falls asleep. Then explore the area a bit more so you can be sure its safe to sleep here.
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No. 827199 ID: 137d21

I'm unsure if the CAI is a trap; I think the Salikai are too paranoid to let one of their Neumono wander around freely without mind control. Allison seems genuine enough, which seems to indicate we either got assistance from the real CAI, or the real CAI has been discovered and forced to cooperate with the Salikai. We've already let Allison wander freely, so if she's compromised, we're probably already screwed. Still, we should probably just trust the note's instruction to be safe, and leave the CAI alone until we can develop a sandbox environment to safely test it in.

Since we don't know what's going on yet, I vote we keep running while also consulting Allison for information/research. If the CAI is still in the Salikai's hands, there's a high chance they'll be forced to betray you, if they haven't already. Even without that, the longer we stay in one place, the more time the Salikai have to pinpoint our location. Don't know how much we can trust the rest of the residents here to not say anything about us too, since there's no reason for them to care about us. If we can run to an ultrahive/large government with some proof of the Salikai's schemes, we should be somewhat safer. On the other hand, CAI's are illegal, iirc. We might need to find some way to set the CAI free with plausible deniability before we attempt to rejoin civilization.
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No. 827205 ID: 094652

The safe bet would be the "laptop with an overclocked battery" trick; nobody in their right mind would want to check on trillions of AIs using less than ten thousand patterns, so why not create a miniaturized CAI, brainwash the inhabitants into thinking all the other residents are fine, and turn the rest into a giant multipurpose virus? You can't prove there's something wrong without the internet, and you can't connect it to the internet without risking a malevolent virus. In short, maybe Vanski found a way to extract a dozen AIs and used his people skills to gaslight them into thinking the other dummy AIs are sentient.

There's a simple test you can do. Don't use the internet, just try a turing test with glitcher and the other AIs. If there's enough to explain, you can set up a VR conference for Azra to prove complex AI CAN exist. If not, then you may want to prepare a dissection room to figure out how deep the virus goes.
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No. 827211 ID: 3abd97

I like how matter of fact Okei is about this. "Oh okay, you're having a freak out, go deal with that."

>I could connect the CAI to a non-wireless source easily, that's no problem. I just don't think it's worth it.
I agree with this analysis. You don't have the means to ever be sure, and the AIs don't have good reason to break cover and respond to you.

>laptops
Honestly, the only way to safely examine them is while running on battery power, inside a Faraday cage, just to be sure.

>I guess I don't need to decide, now, since either way, I need to run farther away than here.
Yeah. Unless you want to look for some remote safehouse to hide for a few weeks / months / years, your basic plan doesn't change until you're much closer to Arza.
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No. 827213 ID: 3ce125

>>827182
Contacting Arza should be your primary concern at this point. However, you now know you have been tampered with by a predator, enough so that you have unconscious behaviors. It's very likely that you have been turned into an assassin. Someone sent out with every reason in the world to find Arza, except you're programmed to try to kill him if you see him. We also can't trust Alison. You're programmed to keep your goggles on at all times which means you can't get rid of them, which means you're meant to find Alison and use her. Who put Alison there though? If your hive knew you couldn't get rid of the goggles then she's fine. If Vanski put her there it's not fine.

Can you trust her? Connect your goggles to a non-wireless computer and run some virus scanning software or whatever to make absolutely sure that nothing else is weird about your goggles. Then double check her programming to see if anything's been set to make her loyal to Vanski. If you are absolutely sure she is clean then she can deliver the message to Arza, because you sure as hell can't be trusted to do it.
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No. 827227 ID: e36c7f

>>827213
Alison did invite Likol to dissect her, so if anyone planted her as a trap or mole they did a bad job - that, or she's an advanced enough one that taking her apart wouldn't reveal anything like that about her anyway. It could be another "test", seeing if she can fool Likol, but things have clearly gone beyond any test at this point.

Add on to that that she is so advanced, to the point where it has to be questioned whether she really is sentient. If she were made by anyone other than the CAI, the idea that she wasn't wouldn't have been presented so certainly, but I'd bet if the CAI made her, they might have their own ideas of what makes an AI sentient and assumed she wasn't because she lacked certain capabilities they themselves had. That she's near sentience but Likol doesn't recognize her structure as a pre-existing one already used to make sentient/near-sentient AIs suggests she's a CAI creation. He's already remarked on her being able to do unexpected things.

Her being able to be released on the internet doesn't make sense given the personalities in play, either. If she were something that existed publicly, Likol would know about her, and if she was a secret creation, whoever made her wouldn't want evidence of her existence splattered all over the internet. These are criminal types, if they have a cool advanced AI like this they'd want to keep her for themselves. Any evidence of her or even of things she's done clues people in to possible countermeasures. Letting some rebellious neumono walk off with her is too likely to expose her to be done by anyone with the kind of motives the salikai and their associates have.

In short, Alison is something Likol hasn't seen before, and he's an AI expert; and the CAI are the only ones who could have made her who wouldn't have minded her being let loose like this.
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No. 827233 ID: 3ce125

>>827227
Well at that point all he had was the goggles' interface to dissect her. She could have fully taken over the interface and used it to feed him false information about her code. Connecting the goggles to a second computer lets us attempt to keep her isolated while we look at her code.

Heck, it's even possible that she's been lying about even going onto the internet and doing things! Do we have any indication she's been helping us and not lying to us?
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No. 827241 ID: fd73fa

No point in worrying about the Allison AI, she's already out of the bag. Any damage she could do is already happening, the paranoia of her turning against us isn't worth the cost of the help she is offering.
As for Arza, it's hard to tell if going to him is the right direction or not.
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No. 827246 ID: e36c7f

>>827233

Well, to test that, all he'd have to do is try to dissect her while the goggles are low on battery life. The power required to run herself AND a simulation of a fictional but operational-seeming "clean" AI would be greater than the estimate of what a non-deceptive Alison would use, since a genuine Alison would probably go into a low-activity mode while being examined. If she's running a con, she'll run out of power; if not, Likol can plug her back in when she's nearly out of power. You'd need to be absolutely sure of having a power source for recharging on hand for that, of course.

Or, if Likol's goggles get warm when they run at maximum capacity for long enough, he could get her to do a bunch of high-demand things while he looks at her and see how well/fast she does them while comparing them to how hot the goggles are getting. If the goggles' programs run slower than they should or the goggles get hotter than they should then something is eating extra processing power. Even if they don't get hot, if Likol is familiar with what rate/type of slowdown the programs on his goggles show when they're doing a lot at once, he can check for that. Gradually activate multiple processes and if there starts being lag or such sooner than there should be, again, something hidden is running.

Point is, it's possible to find out, regardless of the method. And giving such an AI to Likol still runs a lot of risk because, as far as they know, he could stuff the goggles into a bag (reasonable action for him, to make himself less recognizable) and go to the police (also relatively reasonable, as it's likely the next best option after Arza), thereby dropping Alison right into the hands of the law without her getting much chance to do anything about it.
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No. 827258 ID: 15a025

>Okei starts to yawn. I'm not tired at all.
Go help her beat the arcade game before she falls asleep. If the final boss is really that hard, maybe have Alison look around on the web for some tips. You could also try to get into the game's service menu and see if you can't up the number lives you start with too.
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No. 827359 ID: bfb318
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827359

I may not be able to trust Alison fully, but I'm well past the point of taking action on distrust. I'll feel better, though, once her online adventures yield something concrete.

I pick myself up and go fight the boss with Okei again. It takes a few tries, but once we know what we're doing, it isn't a long game at all. After a few tries, we finally beat the game. Okei goes to bed in a good mood, and her empathy shifts asleep. She's hugging her gun.

Since sleep won't come to me at this point, I walk around the complex some, just to see if there area any unsafe elements I missed, aside from, well, everything. The light from upstairs is still on, lightly illuminating the surroundings. I think it's going to rain, soon, and so do the neumono indoors, as they're putting a tarp around the top to keep the wind from blowing rain into the building. I can still hear game shows going on from the television inside.

>"Likol, don't step too far outside, please." I hear Alison say.
"I hear it, but if you could point it out." I say, putting on my goggles.

Alison recolors the pegwolf I'm hearing. Not actually a wolf, as it's indigenous to this planet. It's limping through the trees, making small whining noises like a dying animal. It's acting wounded to lure hunters to go out into the woods so that its pack can pick it off. I'm not entirely sure if it's hearing the neumono on the television, or smelling us, or both.

I step back inside and just collect my thoughts for awhile.
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No. 827360 ID: bfb318
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827360

I'm able to take a nap, but the dreams I have are just that. Inconsequential visions of a sleeping brain.

In the morning, Okei and I eat breakfast, and will set out when the rain clears.

>"Just a mile away, there's a bus stop. That's fine right?" Okei asks.
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No. 827365 ID: e36c7f

Is it just a bus stop by the road, or are you going to a small town? You had the idea of looking for someone to pay off to teach Okei to read, with food to bribe her to attend.
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No. 827368 ID: 3abd97

Not sure if buss routes count as "roads less traveled". Depends on how much use it sees, I suppose.

How far is the bus stop from Shining Coast, which is where we're trying to get right now?

Are there other reasonable options?

If you do get on a bus, goggles need to be hidden. No need to make your most recognizable feature plain to a lot of witnesses.
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No. 827397 ID: 9b80a5

would there be any way to make a fake body double and leave it out in the woods and make it look like you got killed by wildlife and someone found your body and looted it? or would that not even slow them?
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No. 827934 ID: bfb318
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827934

"Is this bus stop in a small town?"
>"Uh, no."
"Okay." I say, starting to learn to say it more like oh-kay, since Okei gets irritated every time I say it like her name.

This goes along with the impressions I've gotten around here. There are small little outposts, farms, and hive estates pocketed in the region, but Shining Coast is probably the only town around in the modern, civilized sense.

"That's... is it the road less traveled?"
>"What no! Buses don't go on empty roads you goof!"

"Checkpoints?" Alison asks.

"Checkpoints?" I relay.
>"What is that the problem?"
"It's a problem."

>"Fine, new plan." Okei says. "Do you have something I can draw with?"
"I have some image editing software on my laptop."
>"Then let me use your murder-laptop."
"As long as you blunt your claw before touching the screen.

I pull up the software and show her how to use it. She draws a map that I can't read at all, so I wait for her to explain it.

>"There's checkpoints here, here and here or something like that. There's a train that has to slow down around a sharp bend here. We can hitch a ride there, and then get off at this bend up here. Then we can get a bus ride past the checkpoint and get into Shining Coast, which I will say is over 40 miles away from where at right now!"
"I don't want the people on the train to think me as memorable."
>"You won't be! People do it all the time, we probably won't even be alone. Better than that, the train people won't even be able to see us!We'll be on and off out of their sight. Trust me. People do it all the time! And the buses get all kinds of crazy insane people. Get a little dirty and you'll fit right in. No one will care about you or your goggles."

Alison is slightly apprehensive, but she can't think of any better way to go about it than just to walk, and she admits that the days it will take to walk there is a danger on its own. Okei also seems confident and honest that her route will be clean and secretive.
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No. 827935 ID: 015058

Well Okei I am putting my life in your hands then.

Show her how to bring up a map of the area on your laptop if Alison can get some pictures. Want to tempt her with the neat things that a education can bring her.
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No. 827958 ID: 3ce125

>>827934
Let's do it. I trust the kid. Just gotta make sure to keep your goggles in your bag. Ooooor wear a hat over them! ...you'll probably subconsciously remove the hat, nevermind. You may as well try it once though.
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No. 827973 ID: 3abd97

Right, let's hobo it up, then.
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No. 828045 ID: d36af7

>>827958
If we're testing out the scope of the post-hypnotic suggestions, you could try having Okei pretend to steal your goggles, to see what happens. If you respond in some disproportionate and memorable way, better to find that out here than on the train while facing an actual pickpocket. Okei already knows you're weird.
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No. 828182 ID: e36c7f

>We can hitch a ride there, and then get off at this bend up here. Then we can get a bus ride past the checkpoint and get into Shining Coast, which I will say is over 40 miles away

It looks like Okei wants to come with you!

Now, grown men taking young girls away on long trips with them the day after they met is generally a bad idea, and your perilous situation kind of compounds that. Doubly so if she actually wants to go and stay go instead of coming back. I assume she doesn't but if you confront her with the idea that that's a long way from here you'll find out if that's her intent.

Peril aside, though, if she doesn't really have anyone here who cares for her a lot, you might find her somewhere better along the way.

... And, thinking long term? While you're out here in the world, you might think about setting up some long-term possibilities for if anyone else of your hive decides they need to get out of the world you all got stuck in. Something as simple as a friend might be nice to have around.
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No. 828866 ID: 9b80a5

Wait up duct tape and paracord get that next time you can as everything can be fixedvwith duct tape and paracord right
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No. 828884 ID: 9dc26d

Okei's an asset and one you need. If she wants to come with, that's fine. Teach her to read until it's time for you to part ways.
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No. 829391 ID: 15a025

Sound a little risky, but Okei seems pretty confident about it. Let's go for it!
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No. 829677 ID: bfb318
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829677

>Wear a hat
Damnit, I meant to try that when I considered wearing a trenchcoat and fuller get-up. I decided not to get a trenchcoat, but I shouldn't have dismissed the idea of a hat to go along with it. I'll attempt to remember while in town.

>Test goggle reaction by having Okei take goggles
I hope I wouldn't have too bad of a reaction, but just in case, I'd rather not test it out on this girl. I can't rule out a possibility that I'd get dangerous.

I tap morse code while pointing my phone at the computer. At my request, Alison brings up a better map of the area with more accurate points. Okei's map is not even close to accurate, but the train and checkpoints do exist.

"Okay, Okei. We'll do it like that."

2 Hours Later

I should have suspected more when Okei's plan was to run at the train from outside of empathy range.

As I get close, guards in the train empathically inform me that they do not want people on the train. Which, apparently, is why Okei led me to the top of a carved hill, and we jump onto the top of it. I should have imagined that was the case, too.

>"Get down, man!" Okei yells.
"Why?"
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No. 829678 ID: bfb318
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829678

It's not like she was hiding this from me.

She just didn't think stuff like this was even worth mentioning.
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No. 829681 ID: c2051e

>>829678
This shouldn't be a problem, then. Lay flat besides one of the bumps on the train.
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No. 829683 ID: 3abd97

>>829678
That is not okay, Okei.

Get down. Might have to take off your backpack so your gear doesn't get smacked against the ceiling.

Might be even better to get in between cars, but then the guards can get to you.
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No. 829684 ID: 015058

That's cause its not worth mentioning. Who pays attention to the safety signs? Not hobos that need free train rides.

Lay down where she shows you.
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No. 829686 ID: 91ee5f

>>829678
Ignore the sign's directions of jumping to the net, that defeats the purpose of jumping onto the train in the first place!

If you think you can fit, then lie flat against the top of the train and don't move until you get out of the tunnel!

If you don't think you can fit, then consider jumping into the gap between the train cars!

And if you don't think you can fit there either, then curse yourself for not being smaller than you already are!
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No. 829687 ID: a633c6

Can you squeeze between the cars?
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No. 829697 ID: e36c7f

You'll have to push back into the space between the carriages and hang by your fingers until you're out of the tunnel. Considering the kind of curves its taking and that they're big squares, there should be plenty of space between them considering you're a neumono and kind of small anyway. You've got big fingers so that should be ok, right?

That or quickly swing your backpack off and lie flat. Again, you're on a curve and you were able to jump on and stay standing, so the train isn't going THAT fast, right?
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No. 829701 ID: e36c7f

If you do just lie flat, do it in the middle where the cars seem to have raised bits at the front and back but not in the middle. You don't know what might be on the roof of the tunnel, lights or something.

... Maybe if you need extra time to take off your backpack, run backwards on the train while you're taking it off?
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No. 829735 ID: 9b80a5

okei defuq? also there dosen't look like there's enough room to lay between the tunnel and train also that sign post seems WAAAAY to suspicious to be trustworthy
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No. 829750 ID: 789ec3

Take off backpack immediately, lay it to your side.
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No. 830877 ID: ad94f3

Lay flat on the side of the train. However. Do not lay flat close to the location you jumped on the train, They will probably investigate that first.
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No. 830945 ID: 15a025

Okei, from now tell us about safety hazards like this. Try and lay down as flat as you can, or if it looks too dangerous you'll have to jump the net.
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No. 831767 ID: bfb318
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831767

"You have to tell me about dangers like this!" I run forward and leap between cars. There's a ladder on these boxes that I'm able to use to hold onto, more or less safely. There is barely any clearance overhead, but Okei lays flat and just feels exhiliration, not fear.
>"I thought you'd think this was fun, but you really are boring! Your empathy felt like it'd like this!"

It's not a bad read, actually. The younger ones in my hive would do this sort of thing for fun without the excuse of a destination in mind. It's only after a few decades that we seem to lose our ability to forget what pain feels like.

>"Get! Off! The! Train!" I hear someone through the door yell at me.
"Once we get out of the tunnel!"
>"Now!"
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No. 831768 ID: bfb318
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831768

Despite what he says, we wait until the train leaves the tunnel and slows down before jumping off.

The rest of the trip goes smoothly. Okei was at least right about the bus. Many people live outside of the town but work inside of it, so busses are packed in the morning going into town, then in the evening going out of town. Other than those times and directions, busses are few and far between.

Which is why by the time we reach the edge of town, it's nearly night. It looks like there's a bridge that goes to the island with the main town, but Okei has us get off just before the bridge, where there's a small collection of shops and hotels not dissimilar to the truck stop down from before.

"Why did we get off here?" I ask Okei, who practically leapt off the bus on an urgent whim.
>"That ice cream shop! It has the best ice cream, I completely forgot about it." she says, as the bus is looping around the onramp to the bridge.

>"Likol, please remember to keep your goggles off." Alison texts through my phone. My head feels, and is, naked without it, but I've been doing better about it. "There's been some inquiries in town to look up someone that matches your description. Consider getting a little bit of fur shine and makeup to help disguise you. Try not to go into popular downtown places, either, since even though those are the most populated, it also has the most surveillance. This area might be okay, even though it's going to become crowded soon by people getting off of work. Oh, and I can arrange for things to be delivered to specific places, too, so you may not even need to enter most supply stores."
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No. 831769 ID: 015058

Give Okei some ice cream money and let her know your favorite flavor.

While she is picking up ice cream you go change your appearance before you get spotted.

Heck you can have Okei go get you some fur dye and such so you can stay out of sight. Or just have Alison order stuff. Assuming she can get it to you without anyone tracking it.
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No. 831772 ID: 33b7e7

You probably both need a meal. Have ice cream, but after you eat something healthier first. No dessert before you eat your vegetables, young lady! Or... organ meats, I guess, for you guys.

While you eat, order some fur dye, and a change of clothes, but ask Alison to look for some opportune place you can do it, first. Maybe order something for Okei as well, since you've been seen with her a little, now? White/grey neumono are relatively common, so you'd just need to give her some new clothes. She probably needs them. Maybe a backpack for herself?

Also, I've been thinking: this might be the time to start laying a little false trail, at least online. Yes, Arza is still your best bet, but you should consider other options, and let Alison know you're considering other options as well, just in case she is secretly compromised. In particular... there has to be some sort of rights watchdog organization around, right? Some official body that, for example, provides hotlines for people to report abuse by their employers, for hives who are being taken advantage of by aliens, et cetera? I hear the humans especially have been watching for that kind of thing, since their last uplift attempts, and a lot of the uplift effort on your world is still going on, marching out into the wilderness, right? Well, you are arguably a member of a hive that is being taken advantage of, and arguably by aliens, considering who Vanski is probably pressured by. That sort of organization is also likely to have at least some interest in AI rights as well - illegal creation of sentient AIs by criminals is definitely a thing, as we've seen. People like that might have a gentler hand than the police, and still be able to help you.

At the very least, it's plausible enough that you can ask Alison to look up information on those organizations for you. If there are online trackers after your signal somehow, or Alison isn't as much on your side as she seems, that investigation could divert some of your pursuers' resources.
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No. 831775 ID: 33b7e7

For the fur dye, by the way: if you need to save money and time, you could just get a color like your main and get rid of your ear and sock markings. If you have spare funds and time, though, consider getting something more thorough - maybe even put yourself closer to Okei's shade, so you'd look like you might be related, for the benefit of cameras and such. And could you conceivably get contact lenses to change your eye color anywhere near here, quickly and discreetly?

If your plan is still to get to Arza, though, you'll need to be recognizable to him, so keep that in mind. I wonder what story's been attached to you for official consumption? If you're supposed to be some terrorist or something, you could possibly get the police to warn Arza about his being "targeted" by a neumono with your description, which he would recognize and thereby know something's up.
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No. 831784 ID: 91ee5f

>>831768
>"That ice cream shop! It has the best ice cream, I completely forgot about it." she says, as the bus is looping around the onramp to the bridge.
This means you're going to miss the bus, doesn't it?

Oh, well. It's probably for the best anyways. It might make you harder to find if you don't immediately go to Arza as fast as possible.

Make sure you guys look both ways before crossing! You can't get ice cream if you get hit by something!
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No. 831798 ID: c2051e

"Sounds good. You're going to have to find a place to cross, and we're going to need actual food before dessert."
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No. 831863 ID: 3abd97

>Try not to go into popular downtown places
Like places with the best ice cream? Well, probably not, this doesn't look like a nice part of town.

>Consider getting a little bit of fur shine and makeup to help disguise you
Preferably something that doesn't come off easy, considering the way you're traveling.
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No. 831881 ID: d36af7

>fur shine and makeup
>closer to Okei's shade
If the people tracking you have enough resources, they could be checking for purchases of proper cosmetics. Just use plain old bleach.

Also consider some field-expedient surgery to alter your leg geometry. Bad idea out in the wild, where smell of blood + can't run fast => eaten by monsters, but now that you're getting closer to civilization and have a friend with a gun, gait recognition is the more urgent threat.
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No. 831884 ID: 3ce125

Are there any more commonly purchased items that could be used as fur dye, to hide the fact that you bought some?
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No. 832267 ID: 1ce2fd

Bleach would probably be the best choice, even if it's just a first step. It'll make you look more like Okei at a glance. After that, taking a bath with beetroots or carrots should give a tint that doesn't go away when wet.
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No. 832293 ID: 33b7e7

Say, now that you're actually in a town, you have some options you didn't have before. Like, what about good ol' snail mail? There has to be secure courier services. As a big guy in AI, Arza probably receives secured mail with advanced prototypes and such all the time. You could just write him a letter.

And speaking of sending messages, you might be able to set some up. Maybe pull the old back to the future postal service trick, drop a letter at the post office with instructions to send it to someone in a couple of years' time unless it's canceled. Write a letter to the cops about your hive's situation and everything that went down, leave instructions to send it unless... well, you can be mind controlled, so let's say unless Arza Fletch comes and cancels it, proving his identity and giving a description of you. That way it can't be canceled without him knowing what's going on.

That's if you want it to have all the info, about the CAI and such as well. If you just wanted to send a "help my hive is being abused by criminal scientists" message, because that memory you uncovered basically proves your hive isn't going to be treated well and really should have someone come help them anyway, then just leave that with a description of where you live and what's done been done to you and have that sent to the cops, no cancellation. Put in a description of Vanski being pressured by more powerful criminal types if you want him to be treated a bit more nicely.
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No. 832299 ID: 015058

>>831881

Bleach would burn something fierce and mess up his fur badly unless he got some specialized stuff.

People use hydrogen peroxide to bleach hair. Safer than bleach and also cheap. Plus you can find it in most any store.

Still would be a pain to apply all over his body. Maybe find a bathtub or other tub and buy some highly concentrated peroxide? Then could mix it with water to get a 20/80 mix and then soak in it for a bit.

Alison should be able to search the net and do the math for the process.
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No. 832304 ID: 33b7e7

>>832299

The trouble with bleach/peroxide as opposed to actual dye is that it generally produce an unnatural-looking color. Not a bad color, but most white neumono are more of a soft or dirtyish grey (because of the black skin underneath, probably) then they are that bright slightly yellowish white-blonde. Like, Okei isn't really that color. Likol wants to avoid drawing attention.
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No. 832308 ID: 1ce2fd

>>832304
Well, combine that with a carrot bath and you'll end up with something faintly yellow, at least after a quick rinse.
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No. 832424 ID: 15a025

>fur shine and makeup to help disguise you

How long do you think dying your fur a different color would last?
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No. 832429 ID: e1d580

>>832308
Neumono don't come in yellow.

>>832424
Indefinitely according to sniper clone.
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No. 832464 ID: 33b7e7

Maybe Likol should take a picture of himself before he dyes his fur, so he can show Arza in case he doesn't recognize him with the change?
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No. 832516 ID: bfb318
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>[The bus looping around the onramp] means you're going to miss the bus, doesn't it?
That is the bus that we just got off from. It's leaving. The next bus is in an hour or two.

>Look up other long game options
I confirm that Alison is looking into organizations and how things may play out. Unfortunately, reporting this to any organization that could do anything against OPA is the kind of organization that will cull the RS, defeating the whole point of my escaping.

>Snail mail
I've read some content on this. As ultrahives stabilize, snail mail is getting more reliable for commercial usage, but in the outskirts, snail mail is notoriously unsafe. At least, the snail mail that's available to the public is.

Alison does say that she can order some eye color changing contacts and things I can paint my fur with to change my color. If OPA is watching this town, they may be watching for this kind of thing, but at the same time, it may not be that easy to monitor a para-nation place like this. Alison is sure to order them from a lesser known shop that asks fewer questions and tells fewer answers. It will take a bit longer than me going myself, and needs to be delivered from the town past the bridge, but it's safer than me going in myself. The dye will need occasional re-applying, but can be scrubbed if I need to look like me again.

Upon my request, she will order a few other objects from the same store so it does not look like I'm just buying fur dye by itself. She also clarifies that my wanted poster does not have much information on it, just that I'm a 'wanted criminal', and to call a specific number if I'm found.

"Okay, here's some money, but get some food, first."
>"Geez the ice cream place has food other than ice cream!"
"Sorry if I find that odd, then, why they would name a place ice cream."
>"Because ice cream sells better than pama bread!"
"I'm unfamiliar with pama bread."
>"Oh my god just come on with me."
"I don't know..."
>"Like you have anything better to do, you hobo?!"
"I'm not sure how comfortable I feel in an ice cream shop."
>"Wha... what kind of ice cream shops have you been to?!"
"No, it's..."

Alison texts me.

>"It's okay, Likol, the ice cream shop is actually probably better than wandering out in public."
"Okay." I simply say to both Okei and Alison. I seem to have stopped putting my goggles on. Plugging it into my phone may have helped prevent me from doing it so easily.

We find a bridge over the highway and walk to the shop. Since it's not rush hour yet, there aren't many people around.
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No. 832517 ID: bfb318
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832517

The ice cream shop has few people that seem to be there to hang out more than to purchase ice cream. A neumono is in the back that looks familiar, but I can't quite place my finger on it. He's playing a guitar, something fast paced with steady riffs, but somehow makes it sound gentle instead of some heavy metal. It's odd. I'm not worried about him, despite that the familiarity is a red flag. He doesn't seem to pay me any mind at all, and only acknowledges the existence of Okei.

There are food items after all. I recognize pama bread after all, not just the name. It's a common kind of bread that's both economical and nutritional. It tastes, and feels, like biting into chalk, but it's so easily mass produced and lasts so long that it's been able to keep high populations of neumono alive.

Okei orders her with a large injection of artificial flavoring in order to make it edible. I eat it plain. It's absurdly cheap as long as we get ice cream to go with it, which we do. I haven't been to many ice cream places in my life, but of those few, this one is the best, outside of my hive's homemade ones.

>"Want to climb the radio tower?" Okei asks.
"Why would we do that?"
>"You wanted me to guide you in the town, right? That means showing you the cool parts of town, like a tour guide! And what is cooler than an abandoned radio tower you can climb on?"
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No. 832518 ID: c2051e

That guy looks like a clone of you, genius. Bit less red and more brown. And honestly, yeah, an abandoned radio tower does sound cool.
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No. 832522 ID: 33b7e7

Ask Okei if anyone will have problems with them climbing the tower, like they did you jumping on the train.

>the guy

He looks very similar to you, actually, just with rounder glasses and warmer/more yellowish tones. I don't suppose while you were wandering around taking pictures of farm hives and that sort of thing, you had any encounters with any ladies who could have popped out an unknown kid afterwards?

It's kind of weird that he's paying Okei more attention than you, actually, if I'm reading your thoughts right. You look like him, too, which would normally attract at least a bit of notice from him. Would you be able to tell if he was deliberately ignoring you? Maybe using the focus on his music to help somehow?

... Hey, how do you play a guitar with neumono hands, anyway? That's six strings, there. No offense man, but you guys have one fewer fingers and the ones you have are a lot stubbier. Unless he's got some special button apparatus attached to press the strings for him he can't possibly do even half the chords right.
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No. 832523 ID: 91ee5f

>>832517
>Familiar neumono.
He looks kinda like you, doesn't he?

>Tour guide.
She's got a point. You might as well let her show you around.

>Radio tower.
Yeah, let's go there.
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No. 832534 ID: 3abd97

>She also clarifies that my wanted poster does not have much information on it, just that I'm a 'wanted criminal', and to call a specific number if I'm found.
Hmmmm. I wonder, in a tight situation, if Alison could DDOS that number by having a bunch of proxies call it.

Kinda tipping our hand, and they might be able to track stuff back electronically, though. Only something worth considering if they're already on to you.

>Hey, how do you play a guitar with neumono hands, anyway?
By using claws as picks, I assume.

>A neumono is in the back that looks familiar
If he were a forgotten hivemate, I don't think he'd be wandering around here.

>Climb a radio tower
...well I guess it might help you get an aerial view of things. And you might be able to hack it to some advantage?
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No. 832537 ID: 015058

If you recognize him there is probably a reason. If its innocuous then it means he is someone you saw on tv or something. Maybe on the Ranger teams? You do like sports.

Less innocuous is the possibility he is a old hive member lost due to Salikai memory fuckery (cause his coloring looks a lot like yours) or a old spire guard you recognize.

What if he pays you no mind cause he is all memory fucked with to?

Also how does a neumono play a guitar?

Anyways tell Okei that sounds like a swell plan.
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No. 832539 ID: c2051e

>>832517
Actually, is that guitarist female?
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No. 832569 ID: 2d1231

>>832517
>"What is cooler than an abandoned radio tower you can climb on?"

Okei has a point.
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No. 833724 ID: 1ce2fd

>"What is cooler than an abandoned radio tower you can climb on?"
"Two abandoned radio towers you can climb on with a zip-line connecting them."
Best delivered dead-pan.
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No. 833726 ID: 91ee5f

>>833724
This! XD
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No. 833750 ID: 15a025

Ask why radio tower is abandoned now?
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No. 835973 ID: bfb318
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835973

"Two abandoned radio towers linked by a zipline."
>"See, you're not totally lame!"
"I never said I was."
>"Your actions did!"
"Speaking of that, is anyone going to have a problem with us climbing it?"
>"No one that matters!"

...

>"No official people like the train I mean! There's probably no one up there."
"Why is it abandoned?"
>"It used to be a site where a cult committed mass suicide by climbing all the way to the top, then jumping off. Then other neumono got so spooked by the spirits, they stopped wanting to use it! Something about electromagnetism?"
"It's not entirely conclusive if electric currents actually has any effect on us, or if it's entirely a placebo effect."

... I explain what a placebo is.

>How does a neumono play a guitar?
It's much trickier, but the strings are typically just placed a bit farther apart. The note range of many guitars is also diminished, depending on how it's made. Some guitars also have button aids. I once tried to learn it, but it was such a low priority that I didn't get far.

Still, this guitar player does seem to be limited on number of notes, but makes do. He - she? He. The shirt was just ruffled in the chest area. He looks like me, and the thought occurs to me that he is some long lost son of mine from an encounter back when I roamed the world more, but the chances of that is abysmal compared to a simple coincidental look-alike. Those chances of a long lost son are still much better than a clone of me happening to be here.

It begins to rain, and there is something nostalgic about the song he plays. I can't place my finger on it. Okei keeps diverting my attention with chats about the town, though, before I think to ask the guitarist what the song is.
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No. 835974 ID: bfb318
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835974

Once we leave, Okei runs into a shop to get some supplies and food. It's a long enough walk to the tower after all that it's night by the time we climb up.

>"Why're you feeling so untrusting?"
"I think that it was abandoned because it's not structurally sound against explosives or sabotage. Judging by its age, a new one - "
>"I already told you why!"
"That story is unlikely. It is not hard to find new workers that aren't spooked."
>"Suicides, though!"
"They'd have just built a fence."
>"I choose to believe the cult story."

We climb up above halfway up the tower, where there's a final platform where the outer support structure stops. Only the trunk goes up higher, until presumably the final, top maintenance platform. We're already above the clouds, where we can dry off.

I hear a guitar from higher up. Sensing my attention, Okei speaks up.

>"Want to camp out at the top, tonight? I bought some tiedowns so that the wind won't blow us off."
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No. 835975 ID: 015058

Yeah just keep ignoring those little twinges of forgotten memories Likol. I am sure that they are not important at all now that we know for sure that you have been repeatedly brainwashed. You dumbass.

Anything you sort of vaguely remember but can't recall is probably something you were forced to forget.

As for the tower fuck it lets sleep in the stars. Just make sure you have a blanket so helicopters can't see your face once daylight comes.
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No. 835977 ID: 33b7e7

Do you mean that you can hear a guitar from where you are, you being higher up, or that there's a guitar sound coming from above you?

If it's the former you have good ears and if it's the latter it's very odd that Okei isn't acting like she hears it. You'd better at least check that you haven't run into some sort of magic teleporting guitar player.

Actually, did Okei give any sign she saw or heard the guitar player in the shop? I wonder if you're hallucinating about guitars and guitar players entirely.

Camping on top of the tower seems to be not a great idea in the abstract, since there's only one way to get off it and survive. But being a child's whim, it is unexpected. I don't think anyone who knew you would think you'd camp at the top of an abandoned tower. However, you'll also be visible up here when the day comes. You'd have to make sure you woke up and got down before dawn. Tying yourself to it seems a poor idea, too.

Tell Okei that as a tribal, you got in the habit of not sleeping anywhere that doesn't have a second exit, and you'd never get any rest up here.
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No. 835985 ID: 3ce125

You might be dreaming. Pinch yourself.
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No. 836005 ID: 9b80a5

look up and see if you can go higher
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No. 836090 ID: d36af7

Ask Alison to analyze the music. There's got to be a "what's that song" database somewhere out on the internet.

If Alison can't hear the music, you're hallucinating and should not climb further.
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No. 836733 ID: 15a025

>>836090
Alison should be able to find out what the song is.
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No. 836858 ID: bfb318
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836858

>Clarification of guitar source?
It is coming from above.

"Hold on." I move to the side, away from Okei, so I can whisper to my goggles. "Alison, what is... no, first, do you even hear the guitar?"
>"I can't hear anything."
"Did you hear any guitar player at the ice cream shop?"
>"I didn't. Did you?"
"..... yes."

Alison pauses, for some intentional effect on her part.

>"Likol - "
"I know. I'm hallucinating."

Ideally I'd like to have an exit if I were woken up, even if I haven't kept my options open in the past with the hotel rooms. Okei got some blankets. I can use those to hide myself if I see any helicopters in the morning.

The tower's trunk does have an enclosed ladder going up, so it'll be safe to climb.

>"What're you doing?" Okei asks from behind.
"Just...."

"Just being a dumbass."
>"And you're just now having a reaction?"

I don't respond, so Alison speaks up. I can still hear the guitar above me, even knowing it's an auditorial hallucination.

>"If you can recreate that song, I can do a search for it. Oh, but you don't have to right away. I don't see any helicopters up here. I doubt anyone's thinking to watch the radio tower."
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No. 836861 ID: 015058

Start humming the song for her. Repeating it might help unlock some memories associated with whoever that was.

Now that you have realized your brain has been messed with it's probably going to be throwing old memories at you in a attempt to recall things. I am betting this guitar person was pretty important to you and that they got erased at some point.

Also you need to have Alison on hallucination watch. So she can let you know if something is happening that only you can see. I would work on figuring out a disguise for your goggles so you can use them freely.
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No. 836864 ID: 3abd97

Unless they've got really good aerial surveillance, this is probably a safe place to camp out. (Well, safe from your enemies, anyways). It's unlikely anyone from the ground can see you, and it does give you good sight lines on your surroundings.

The biggest potential problem is if you stay up here, and someone does find you, you can be cornered pretty easy. The only exit is down.

>song recreation
Might want to do that in private.
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No. 836868 ID: 91ee5f

>>836861
>I am betting this guitar person was pretty important to you and that they got erased at some point.
Actually, Likol said that the guitar neumono looked like a younger version of himself. So it might just be a memory of himself playing the guitar.

Even though he said he didn't get far in learning the guitar before he stopped playing, this one song he's hearing might be the only song he actually managed to learn how to play before he stopped.
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No. 836869 ID: 33b7e7

Tell Okei you're trying to think of a song. Then you can hum it aloud without worrying about her thinking you're weird. There's even some small chance she'll know what it is.
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No. 836880 ID: 3ce125

>>836858
A hallucination? Go talk to it. You're having issues with your subconscious so it could be good to get in contact with it. Also hum along to the song.

Uh, be sure to tell Okei to uh, try to make sure you don't jump off the tower or something.
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No. 836900 ID: fd306a

“Okei, just do me a favour because stupid shit like this is going to happen fairly frequently and i need you to bear with me when it happens.”
As for recreating the song you can use your claws to tap the metal guard rail if that’s loud enough for alison to hear.
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No. 837474 ID: bfb318
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"We can camp up at the top, Okei. Go ahead and start climbing up. I'll follow soon, but I'm trying to remember a song right now."

She gives me her usual inquisitive, judgemental look before going up. I follow, so that I can hum the tune for Alison without having to explain why I'm humming in front of Okei. Even if it isn't that abnormal to hum.

>"It sounds like the Ember Parade." Alison answers. I ask a few more details. Apparently, this song came out around the same time that I was trying to learn the guitar. I don't have any recollection of it, at all.

The top platform is expectedly small but the railing is good, probably due to maintenance neumono who thought they were too good to tie themselves down.

The guitar player stays in place. It's a good hallucination. Too good.
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No. 837476 ID: 015058

Really good hallucinations talk back. Ask who it is you should be remembering.
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No. 837477 ID: 3abd97

>The guitar player stays in place. It's a good hallucination. Too good.
Does it have empathy?

I'm tempted to poke him, or attempt to interact with him, but failure to perceive reality up here is dangerous. If you get raw deeper into this, you might go off the edge before Okei could stop you.

Probably should see about tying yourself to something.
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No. 837478 ID: c2051e

Tell him to open his eyes.
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No. 837483 ID: 3ce125

>>837474
Ask Okei to stop you if it looks like you're going to jump off.
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No. 837486 ID: 0d45a9

Secure yourself (Towel can act as a rope or something?), or ask Okei to watch you. Then experiment with the hallucination, ask Alison to play the track to you to see if that triggers anything.
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No. 837497 ID: 33b7e7

... Who was your guitar teacher? Did anyone try learn at the same time as you?
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No. 837532 ID: bd63ca

Was Ember Parade only guitar? If there was more, ask Alison to get you the full song. Or maybe just ask if Okei had heard of it, and hum it for her if she doesn't recognize the name.

Of course, you might want to let her know you may space out like with the arcade cabinet.
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No. 837560 ID: d9cd96

Hit on yourself. See if you can make the hallucination blush.
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No. 837579 ID: 9b80a5

briefly contemplate that your in the cai in a layer above the one where the AI you made contact with is then realize that is kinda dumb and pointless
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No. 837580 ID: 094652

See if you can get a reaction from your hallucinations.

Honk Okei's ears.
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No. 837741 ID: bfb318
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837741

I briefly whisper 'hey' to the hallucination. No response. I'll try to do more to get a reaction out of it. I have Alison play the track for me. The hallucination seems to stutter for a moment, then syncs itself with the track Alison plays. There's more to the song than the guitar alone, although a guitar still does well by itself.

>Comtemplate you're in a CAI
There's some things that I can't disprove, but aren't worth worrying about.

>Honk Okei's ears
I think the thought alone would make Okei toss me over the edge sooner than the hallucination would react.

>Does it have empathy?
... maybe? It's strange, as it feels like it has empathy, but I can't feel the empathy.

>Hit on it.
There are some things I am just too bad at.

>Who was your guitar teacher?
A few hivemates helped me learn, although we were all learning ourselves.

First, I borrow some of Okei's tiedowns she bought to eliminate the chance of me hallucinating something that will lead to me walking off.

"Okei, if I look like I'm about to jump over the edge, please stop me."
>"How about... you just not jump over the edge?!"
"Fine, if I accidentally teeter."
>"You're tied down! You're short! How clumsy are you?!"
"Extremely so. I may space out like with the arcade cabinet."

The hallucination continues playing. It sounds like there's only 1 guitar, now, despite that I can hear Alison play Ember Parade and all of its other instruments.

"Can you open your eyes?"

The feeling 'why' is returned, although it seems to come from inside me, as though I asked myself that.

Okei starts looking around like there's another neumono in the area.
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No. 837742 ID: 3ce125

>>837741
>your hallucination caused you to broadcast a second person's worth of empathy
WOW. You are really fucked up Likol. Tell Okei that you are really fucked up.
It seems like you managed to compartmentalize part of yourself off to keep it from being manipulated by the predator. Ask what information it can tell you.
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No. 837743 ID: c2051e

Because you're on a very high platform and you should be careful not to fall?
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No. 837744 ID: 2d1231

>>837741

Maybe it's INNER LIKOL and we're about to get really freaky head-spacey up in here.
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No. 837776 ID: e28e17

maybe we should try asking some general questions to figure out what exactly is going on. here's a basic list:
who are you?
why are you playing ember parade?
why can only i see you?
why are you following me?
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No. 837816 ID: 3abd97

>Okei starts looking around like there's another neumono in the area.
Well that's not good. That either means you're either in a dream / simulation right now, or that whatever's wrong with your head is capable of making you spoof an extra emphatic signal.

Try reaching out and touching the hallucination, maybe?
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No. 837834 ID: 19afca

>>837741
Paranoia first: Make sure there isn't ACTUALLY a new neumono that just entered empathy range.

If there isn't, well... wow. What the others said.
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No. 837839 ID: 91ee5f

>>837834
>Make sure there isn't ACTUALLY a new neumono that just entered empathy range.
If it was another neumono, then holy shit, talk about random coincidental timing! What're the odds of that happening?
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No. 837873 ID: d36af7

Tell Okei you need to talk to this hallucination of your younger self about some intra-hive business for a little bit, and it's fine if she stays up here but it'd be rude to listen too closely.
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No. 837881 ID: 3d2d5f

>>837834
Considering we're on an exposed tower with no enclosed interior, that's pretty simple to check (or at least, simple for anyone who can trust their senses, which Likol clearly cannot). Any interloper in range would either need to be climbing the tower, or flying.
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No. 838089 ID: bfb318
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838089

There's definitely no other neumono that's climbing the ladder or anything. The empathy is within me.

I touch the hallucination on the knee. I feel my hand go through, but my vision around there gets difficult to focus on.

"Who are you?"

It almost speaks. I think I even saw the mouth move. Still, the answer comes more internally than any auditory hallucination.

'What you were supposed to be.'

"Sorry, Okei, you knew I had issues." She's unnerved, though not as freaked out as most would be.
>"No kidding! How are you two people?!"
"I don't know."
>"Oh my god, you said you were a tribal. You ate your own hivemate, didn't you?! And now he's part of you!"
"What n.... that's not how that works, Okei."
>"Give me a better explanation!
"There's a lot of ideas, but... I need to talk to this other person more. Preferably without eavesdropping." I turn back to the hallucination. "Why are you playing Ember Parade?"

Within me, I get some obvious sounding answer I can't place. I think it's snarky, too. Probably just because it's a nice, easy song to learn.

Something also tells me it is more interested in playing the guitar than talking with me.

>"What's going on, Likol?" asks Alison.
"A hallucination, but it appears to give off empathy that comes from inside of myself." I whisper while Okei is on the other side of the platform.

I describe the hallucination, too.

>"There's a few things it could be." Alison answers. "I don't want you to come to conclusions just yet, but I wonder if I can get some underground doctors for you."
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No. 838094 ID: 0d45a9

If that's the case, why aren't I you? What happened?
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No. 838095 ID: 3abd97

>"Give me a better explanation!
Explain to Okei when you get the chance, after. "I think someone or something messed with my memories, or something similar."

>I wonder if I can get some underground doctors for you.
The problem would be finding one who is truthworthy, and has no connections that lead back to OPA.

>questions
Useful ones might be "why are you here now" or "what do you want".
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No. 838096 ID: 015058

Are you what I could have been? Or are you what they tried to make me?

Other than playing the guitar what makes you different?
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No. 838099 ID: 3ce125

>>838089
Ask if you're a clone, and he's the original.
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No. 838102 ID: 4aa2b6

Okei's comment provides some clarity: she doesn't think this other empathy is another you, she thinks it's a hivemate of yours. So, this isn't a suppressed memory of yours where you were this guy playing out, not unless the alteration of your memory or the time span involved made you into a noticeably different person, the latter of which isn't possible with a guitar since it's an alien instrument. The fact that you sense snarkiness off it also indicates that, since you're not a very snarky person, and I think that's probably been a long habit of yours - while traveling around and occasionally meeting other hives, you probably got into a habit of not saying things that could rile people. You're a polite guy.

So, this could well be another hivemate. A cousin, brother, nephew or son you don't remember. Maybe Okei's idea has some merit. Not literal eating, of course, but do you remember your hive ever experimenting with implanting brain material from one neumono into another to try artificially gaining skills? Perhaps this guy represents a combination between you and another neumono whose material was implanted into you, hence "what you were supposed to be". An old experiment that failed. But now, not entirely failed? Something about how you absorbed it left a trace, which is able to come out now your brain has been tampered with?

... How about you sit in him, pose yourself to his position, and try match his movements?
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No. 838243 ID: 56abba

>"Give me a better explanation!
"I used to be a normal neumono like you and all others in this mall, yes, but the christmas thief, in all his hatred of most giving holiday, sent his predators to change me. Most neumono can't defend themselves against such creatures, but I am as old as the moonlit forest itself, and have learned how to partition my mind. And so I split myself in two. One was my old self, who was eaten. But the other was my good spirit, my charitable and loving side, and that was not something that I would let anyone touch. I would become the embodiment of christmas itself, in order to become the very thing that the grinch hoped to destroy. And that is the story about how I became Neumono Santa Claus."
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No. 838539 ID: bfb318
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838539

"I'm old. I could have partitioned my mind or something similar."
>"Why?"
"I've been through.... stuff."
>"Like?"
"... I've seen predators, before."
>"So you're a zombie?!"
"No if... you're asking a lot of questions."
>"I need a lot of answer!"
"Can I speak to my alternate self in peace?"
>"Fiiiine."

I already said more than I wanted to Okei. I turn back to the hallucination to ask questions.

I was supposed to be him, but the process was interrupted. He won't tell me why. He's only manifesting now simply because he was recently formed. Neither of us is a clone. All the hallucination wants is to be me. He doesn't seem responsive to other questions.

>Do you remember your hive ever experimenting with implanting brain material from one neumono into another to try artificially gaining skills?
Yes. It didn't go far.

I try to sit in him as a test. It's a jarring experience, but he scoots over through me to the side. I talk to Alison.

"The difficulty is finding a doctor that's trustworthy."
>"Would you allow me to at least try? This is a serious issue, and it could develop into something more if you interact with the hallucination too much."
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No. 838540 ID: 3abd97

Is the other-you going to go away? If he's around all the time, you're going to have a hard time passing around neumono without raising attention. The extra-empathy is noteworthy.

>Would you allow me to at least try?
Yes, you're allowed to try. If you find a suitable contact, please contact me before making me an appointment.
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No. 838541 ID: 015058

Ask her what she knows about your home life situation. Cause she might not know that you belong to the super evil science hive. Finding a doctor that would understand and keep quite is quite the job. But if she can get some ideas it might be worth a try.

As for Mr hallucination? I bet he was what your boss was going to turn you into with his predator. A nice happy normal random guy who liked playing the guitar and not thinking to hard. Probably would put you with a bunch of your other hivemates who had also been turned into people who also did not think much.

But then the process got interrupted and you got rescued by someone and thrown out into the jungle under mysterious circumstances.

Now we could try and kill this guy and get him out of your head. Or if you wanted to go big risk you could try to absorb him somehow and use his personality to hide your real one. As preparation for the day when you get predatored again.
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No. 838567 ID: 15a025

Let Alison look around for a doctor, but have her double check with you before making any appointments.
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No. 838576 ID: 3ce125

>>838539
Yes. New theory: it sounds like the other you is a more loyal personality implanted by the predator or some sort of technology, meant to replace your rebellious one. It is a threat and must be removed.

The alternative is to rush your mission and get to the doctor before the alt-personality takes you over (but we know that won't happen since Likol remains rebellious in the future)
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No. 838649 ID: e67428

Hmm. Alison is being a little pushy. I wonder.

This hallucination might represent something bad, but it could also be good. These early predator experiments might be flawed and have difficulty sorting out the "erasure" of memories, if erasing is even what they do - it's always seemed more likely to me that a predator would just lock off memories rather than erase them completely, which would be more work for a creature known to be pretty lazy whenever it can be, and total erasure is a more complicated concept that would be difficult to express to them.

The fact that music is involved makes me think along those lines, too. In humans, it's been known to occur that a stroke could render someone incapable of speech, but still capable of singing, because the type of mental processing involved uses a different part of the brain. Muscle memory (such as with playing a guitar) would also be stored differently from other types of memory. It seems likely to me that, if a section of Likol's life in which he had continued trying to learn the guitar had been erased, the guitar playing skill would have remained - and, the way organic memory works, a bunch of associated "attached" memories might still linger around the edges of that skill.

This could represent a suppressed/repressed/partially or mostly erased memory trying to resurface, which is something we'd want to happen. It's often the case that a repressed aspect of oneself can manifest as an "other person". Reintegration is generally the eventual endpoint of treatment for that sort of thing.

Tell Alison that theory, and ask her what hers is. At least get her to narrow down what kind of specialist she thinks you need, because I don't think a general practitioner can fix this.

Don't go to an underground doctor. Most underground doctors treat underground problems, like bullet holes and drug overdoses; what you need is either a brain surgeon or a psychiatrist, neither of which tend to go underground. A better idea would be to find a legit doctor who might be persuaded to help you. Maybe not even a practicing doctor, but a college lecturer, or someone who's retired. Even a college student, maybe! Turn up at their door, or wake them up in the middle of the night, loosely tell them your situation (on the run from criminal scientists, brain problems) and that you're willing to pay (assuming you have enough for a professional opinion), get some advice.

Risking capture by the cops is better than risking capture by the people you're running from.
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No. 838750 ID: 9b80a5

capture by cops is still a REALLY risky idea depending on how scrupulous the police are, the people you are running from could just pay them alot of money and the cops could say you, "somehow managed to escape" and you would never be seen or heard from again
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No. 839263 ID: bfb318
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839263

"Aren't underground doctors more for things like bullet holes and drug overdoses?"
>"Those too, but really just any doctor who serves people outside of the normal medical field. There's even therapists and psychiatrists off the field. Even if their reasons are different, there's a lot of people like you who wouldn't want to check into a public hospital."
"You can try, but don't set up any appointments without my approval. You can also try to get someone retired, or even a college student."
>"Understood! Thank you."
"I suspect this may be a memory, or series of memories, that are trying to resurface. That, or it's what the predator was trying to turn me into. Do you have theories?"
>"There is that... but it does sound like a split personality, too. Part of why I want to get you to a doctor is to run a brain scan. True split personalities are incredibly rare, but those that have them tend to have an extremely high level of redundancy, enough to support two different people."
"Is my double empathy going to go away?"
>"I don't know... maybe you should stay out of public areas for a little while, until I can get you a jammer."
"How much do you know about my home life, anyway?"
>"Not any more than you do, but you've said enough to get me an idea."

>Possibly kill the hallucination
It's not off the table, but getting hostile with someone who I share my own body with is an unpleasant thought.

>"I'm going to fly some food up here for you, since you should eat well. Can you list off all the supplies you do have? You might need to spend a day or two away from people. I'm surprised Okei is so calm with you having two distinct empathy sources."
"Excuse me, 'fly'?"
>"Oh, yes, I can rent out drones capable of holding items. Don't worry, they don't have tracking or anything, I just need to give the store collateral in case I can't return it. Then, after you eat, you should get some sleep. I can wake you up if you look like you're having a nightmare, if you want."
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No. 839267 ID: 0d45a9

That seems reasonable, although maybe don't wake me in case of a nightmare, I've been trying to piece things together during lucid dreams.

We only started projecting double empathy when we interacted with the hallucination, so if we stop doing that maybe it'll return to normal, at least for now. If Okei is okay with it, was can always ask her to check our empathy.
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No. 839270 ID: a2507c

>>839263
Ask Okei if she'd like to camp up here tonight. Tell Alison not to wake you unless someone other than Okei approaches.
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No. 839274 ID: 33d4be

Don't ask to be woken up, the dreams are too important. In this case especially, I think. Neumono dream sharing seems to be capable of transmitting more information more comprehensively than their waking empathy, so you might be able to communicate better with this fragment of yourself while asleep.

Have a chat with Okei about this before you turn in. If I remember, earlier, the hallucination felt like it acknowledged her presence but not yours, right?

Maybe spend a little meditation time, too, running through your emotions. Focus on your feelings for the CAI, maybe, and see how the other empathy responds. We should try to see if we can tell how this other you feels about that, if he has the same attitude towards them and your goals.
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No. 839275 ID: 91ee5f

>>839263
>Fly food up here for you
And now I'm waiting for Alison to accidentally drop a box on Likol's head! XD

And then that ends up knocking a few memories loose, which will let Likol remember more things!
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No. 839323 ID: 3abd97

>"Is my double empathy going to go away?"
Well, time to test that I guess. See what happens if you try waiting it out tonight. If it fades with time, there's no need to try anything riskier.

>drone food
I wanna see Okei's face when food comes flying in from the sky.
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No. 839707 ID: bfb318
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839707

"Okay, go ahead and send up some food. Don't wake me up from a nightmare."
>"Oh is your imagination friend going to bring us food?!"

Dangit, Okei was eavesdropping and I wasn't even paying attention. A sedentary life of computer work has made me soft after all.

"A different friend."

It doesn't take Alison long. We hear the blades of a helicopter drone bring up a care package. I don't know how she rented out a drone remotely, but I'll trust her on it. This does prove that she can help me after all. Her stringing me along was a paranoid thought, anyway. This isn't a small supply package, either. There's an assortment of canned meats, fruits, and an extra blanket for myself.

Okei is impressed, to say the least. Alison even brought up a gas cooker, so I'll be able to use my pot to get a hot meal before bed.

>"Tell me a story!" says Okei. "You're a real tribal, right?"
"Yes, but the good stories are my personal relations with my hives. The only interesting stories I have are of survival, death, and running for our lives from other hives."
>"Cool!"

There's tales of war, running from hives, and a time we had to run through a dry climate for a few days.
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No. 839711 ID: 3ce125

>>839707
That last one sounds the most interesting and probably the least problematic as far as telling it to a child is concerned.
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No. 839715 ID: c2051e

>>839707
One each of war and running.
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No. 839717 ID: c2051e

>the least problematic as far as telling it to a child is concerned.
Don't underestimate Okei.
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No. 839720 ID: 33d4be

You guys don't seem like you'd have stuck around in a war. Were you involved in a war between other hives? That sounds interesting.

Though I guess really you should pick something that has some sort of moral or lesson to it, if you want to be a good influence. Was your hive ever part of or observers to a hive team-up against a big beastie or other mutual threat? Or maybe there was some conflict started by some avoidable accident or misunderstanding?

Anyway, balance it out. If you tell her a sad/upsetting/depressing story, give her another afterwards with a better ending, so she can sleep well.

>This does prove that she can help me after all. Her stringing me along was a paranoid thought, anyway.

Weeell, yes, but she could be doing it for her own reasons. Like maybe you're the subject of an experiment she's supposed to observe or you've been made into some sort of sleeper agent, and she has to keep you alive and on track, and deal with any glitches that pop up. You still don't have any proof of other Alisons, thought I'm not sure what would be proof.
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No. 839730 ID: 91ee5f

Guys, Okei is a Neumono child, they thrive off of violence. Telling her a violent story isn't that big of a deal!

.....unless she's from a cuddle hive, then she'd be traumatized!

But it's pretty obvious that she not from a cuddle hive, so let's just tell her a violent story, like she wants!
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No. 839733 ID: 3abd97

>>839707
Running from stuff sounds like good adventure stories.
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No. 840114 ID: 015058

Tell her the running story.
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No. 840458 ID: 15a025

The dry climate sounds interesting. What were you running through there for?
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No. 840469 ID: bfb318
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840469

"I'll tell you about when we had to run."

I cook while I talk, while we bundle ourselves in blankets.

"I don't know when this is. At my age, things blend together. All I can say is there were no humans or belenosians yet. Our greatest weapons were bows and arrows, and our best tools were our own thoughts. My hive didn't use those thoughts for just mere survival, but there was obviously that, too. That's why we had a tenuous agreement of non-aggression with a nearby hive, which those only last while everyone is well fed. In this area, we were at a high altitude on a mountain range. Just like here, we had a good sight of the stars.
"That's why our hive was interested in astrology most of all during that period. We spent years charting the constellations, writing a long book on astrology. The constellations, and our own planet, which we learned of course was round, but we also had an excellent estimation of the size of the planet, too. That book was the pride of our hive. We had notes to the side and all that, but writing material was difficult, so for the most part, the book contained all of our written knowledge."

...

"I don't know why I'm here, and not in space, but that's a series of thoughts that aren't even enough to make a story out of."
>"I thought this story was about running."
"I'm getting there. Well, the other hive wanted their tributes, but they started thinking that we weren't giving enough. We handed them food and tools, and we made their living easier, but they were around us for too long, and were too used to our gratitude. The novelty was lost, and they confused a familiar gratitude with a lack of gratitude, and respect, and demanded more than things we were happy to part with. They realized how important our book was. They took it for themselves."
>"Were they nerds, too? Why'd they care?"
"They thought that if it was valuable to us, it was valuable to them. They wouldn't find out it was wasted on them, anyway. We refused to be parted with the book. We attacked them, and either killed or chased off the group collecting from us, but the group we fought would reach the rest of their hive and they'd come back in greater numbers. So we fled.
"That hive refused to let the offense go. We ran down the mountains as fast as we could while still hunting, but they were always at our heels. We thought that their home was sacred to them, and that they wouldn't chase us too far. Either we were wrong, or the idea of vengeance was more sacred to them. Plus... not their queen, but someone very important and strong in their hive seemed to take much more issue. We must have killed someone close to that person to defend our work, because they were enraged like no one else was. We were chased for months. We saw more of the world, I believe, in those months than any other time in ours lives in a comparable time frame. We'd cross other hives, too, and they'd chase us away. We spent those days waking up, running, trying to hunt on the way, eat, and hopefully fall asleep for awhile."
>"I thought this was a story about 'those days'! That entire story was a story leading up to what I thought you were going to talk about!"
"There isn't much to say, sorry. Well, there might be, but it was a long time ago. I don't remember much about the running itself, sorry. A lot of us died, but we kept going."
>"Wow. I didn't know tribals could be nerdy, but fighting to the death over a book!"
"It... was what the book represented."
>"Okay okay, I get it, but what happened to it?"
"I... uh...."

I don't know.

How did I forget that? We threw ourselves into hell, knowingly and happily, because of something I can't even remember the fate of.
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No. 840477 ID: 3ce125

>>840469
Can you recall the contents of the book? What the title was? When the enemy hive eventually stopped chasing you? Which details can you remember clearly compared to the details which you can't? Analyze this as if it was an implanted memory.

...wait a fucking minute this sounds like an analogy to you running away with the CAI.
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No. 840478 ID: 91ee5f

>>840469
>"Wow. I didn't know tribals could be nerdy, but fighting to the death over a book!"
Tell her that there were tribals that fought over less than that. In fact, you met a hive that was willing to kill over a rock. A plain boring rock that had nothing special about it at all.

>Don't know what happened to book.
You already told her about your memory problems, right? Tell her that predator you said you've met has messed with your memories and you can't remember what happened to that book.
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No. 840488 ID: 2d1231

>>840469

Give the night sky a look. Just how familiar is it? You guys spent a very long time charting the stars, so surely you're familiar with them.

If not, then perhaps that, too, was something the Salikai did.
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No. 840491 ID: 33d4be

The book was something that symbolized how far you were willing to submit to others, and what you weren't willing to give up. Perhaps someone didn't want you to have such a thing. Or, more simply, perhaps something happened to it and you were made to forget to keep you from being upset at whoever caused that.

Tell Okei that you were made to forget. She already knows you're on the run and she already knows you have mental problems, it's hardly any harm to confirm those two things are connected. If she presses further you can say it would be dangerous for her to know more. Try distract her with another story that fits her tastes better?
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No. 840508 ID: efcc58

>>840469
Freak out. Make Okei uncomfortable.
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No. 840519 ID: 094652

The book was the representation of greater knowledge. Surrendering it to the neighbors was not an option; that other tribe was fueled by will, but not intellect. If they got their hands on a symbol of knowledge, they would worship the knowledge as a deity instead of enlightenment. Their patience and discipline in the pursuit of tradition and vengeance, meant they would have demanded war from technology and gotten it.

The book was about space, about the one place you could see but couldn't go to. Then that changed. Where is the book? Where you think it belongs, up there.
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No. 840579 ID: 3abd97

>>840469
What about the fate of the rest of the story? Did that hive eventually stop chasing you? I mean, they must have, but what was it that made them stop?
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No. 840715 ID: 9b80a5

well obviously that memory is more than likely important if it has been broken, it may have to do with the schism or just something else important to the tribe in general

you have quite a few rabbit holes to go through all you have to do is jump down them and see where they connect, get a frame of the bigger picture, and try to connect the dots, so you can figure out what all they did to you and your tribe
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No. 840726 ID: bfb318
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840726

"Let me retrace it. After what might have been months, the hive stopped chasing us. They probably got too homesick, and the will to finish us off became too stale."

I look at the stars. I do know a lot. I get the idea that I used to know more, but without regular study, I shouldn't be surprised that a lot of the knowledge feels like it's only at the tip of my tongue, even if I could legitimately name each star. I can at least recognize most of the major constellations.

"I might have been made to forget. Or maybe I was made to remember something?"
>"What? Like you're remembering a fake story?"
"I don't want to think it's fake, but it sounds a little too much like an analogy to, uh... something else." It's practically a parallel to me running away with the CAI.

I try to recall contents. The title was simply 'Guide to the stars'. Chapter 1 was just a simple series of drawings and notes recorded daily. Simple documentation. Chapter 2 tried to cluster information into constellations. Chapter 3 was about our world, and a few models about our place in the universe and how we revolved around the sun. Chapter 4 was just a collection of notes and observations.

There's just no way I could have implanted memories about something like this. I can't freak out over this, especially at this point when I already feel like I'm losing my mental stability for other reasons. I can still hear the guitar.

"Maybe it's in some museum in space, now, where it belongs."
>"It's not okay for another hive to have it, but it belongs in some alien museum just fine?"
"The two environments are nearly polar opposites, so yes. We'd be honored if it was glorified as evidence that neumono were worth giving an uplifting nudge."

Something feels wrong, like something's burning in the back of my head.

>"Back up!"
"What?"
>"Back up, idiot!"
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No. 840730 ID: c2051e

Looks like you're conditioned to make yourself stop thinking about that. She brought stuff to tie you down for the wind, right? Ask her to tie you down so you can keep thinking about this.
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No. 840744 ID: 3ce125

>>840726
Tell Alison that you think you need that appointment to be as soon as possible.
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No. 840747 ID: 015058

Make sure you are not about to wander off the edge of the tower. But that back up is worrying.

Then tie your brainwashed butt to the railing and get back to thinking. Any memory that was tampered with has to have been for a reason. We need to remember. Otherwise who knows what we might be missing.
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No. 840775 ID: 3abd97

>>840726
Great, you're either hallucinating, or this was a dream too and you never noticed.

Absolutely do not say "back up" or anything similar.

Move towards the middle of the tower, just in case.
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No. 840776 ID: a633c6

like, a data backup?
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No. 840777 ID: d36af7

Have you been remembering to keep the CAI's battery charged?
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No. 840778 ID: 33d4be

Take a step back.

Touch Okei. Hand on the shoulder or something. Focus on her empathy.
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No. 842609 ID: 15a025

Back away and start thinking about someone who might have made a copy or a "backup" of the book.
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No. 848039 ID: 56e50f

>>840726
Sit. Your butt. Down. What day is it?
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No. 848189 ID: c88e6d

>>840726
Ask Okei what day it is. Do not back up.
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No. 849227 ID: bfb318
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849227

I move to the center of the radio tower to tie myself down before I do anything stupid.

>"Good job, idiot!"
"I didn't..."
>"Now the soup's got your tail fur in it!"
"What?"
>"Don't 'what' me! I'm no cannibal!"

Wait a minute. My tail is hot. I let it droop, and it hit the pan. I didn't even notice until now, even with my tail burning.

Okei was telling me to back up to get my tail out of the soup. That's somewhat relieving, aside from the amount of alarm that caused me. I double check everything, make sure I'm still tied down, and that the CAI batteries are charged.

"I think I need that doctor appointment as soon as possible." I tell Alison, though I let Okei hear.
>"No kidding!" Okei says.
>"Working on it!" Alison mentions, somewhat cheerfully.
"What day is it?"
>"How should I know? I'm not the one with fancy goggles."
>"April 30th." says Alison. "Also, I know I told you to sleep right after you ate, but I'm a little worried about the materialization of this extra personality. Will it sleep when you sleep? The internet says that neumono with dual personalities are prone to sleepwalking."
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No. 849228 ID: 0d45a9

"Sorry." Well that was kinda unexpected, at least it was just soup rather than our issues trying to send us off the tower. I wonder if we're getting too paranoid for our own good? Nah.

If we're gonna be potentially prone to sleepwalking, we should definitely tie ourselves down before sleeping, and ask Alison to try and wake us if we start sleepwalking.
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No. 849239 ID: 90f3c0

Staying awake until you know what's going on probably isn't a reasonable option. So lash yourself down real tight and try to get some sleep.
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No. 849252 ID: 86eb65

Tell Alison that you appear to have some sort of embedded command to "back up" whenever you get close to finding a unearthed memory.

Describe how you were about to discover something very important that was centered around your memories for the guide to the stars.

Wait... Likol were you or your hive involved in a first contact incident? Is that why you have high level tech years before the rest of your species. Did your hive run into some bad folks who were trying to make money here before this planet was protected? Did the guide end up somewhere mysterious due to that sort of thing?
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No. 849256 ID: 3cc68c

Dont let yourself get distracted Likol. Lets think this over first.

Were you at the edge looking at stars or not? How did you get close enough to dip your tail in the soup?

Did you physically back up while trying to discover a hidden memory?

Did Okei even say back up? If you had your tail in the soup why would she ask you to go backwards? That is just more tail in the soup right there. She should have said move forward.

You sat there and talked while looking at the stars and thinking for awhile with no issues.

So either you started moving backward into the soup without noticing it(aka your double trying to mess up your revelations). Or Okei saying "back up" was just a figment of your imagination and you did not get into the soup until you actually did back up.(more of your mind trying to keep you away from memories)

Ask Alison exactly what lead up to your tail being in soup from her viewpoint.


Then get back to figuring out why a pre uplift neumono star chart from a hidden hive would be in a alien space museum. Considering your hive never met civilization. And the only way it could have got there would be smugglers and or you coming into contact with people pre official first contact.

Likol is your space book the reason your hive ended up working for space criminals? Did it make them realize that neumono were worth investing in?
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No. 849260 ID: bfb318
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849260

>Were you or your hive involved in a first contact incident?
No, or at least not directly.

I clean up the cooking tools, tie myself down tightly, and speak to Alison while Okei is distracted.

"I can stay awake for a long time, but I can't just not sleep on a whim. Wake me up if I do anything weird."
>"Understood."
"Also, I have some kind of embedded command to 'back up'. I'm not sure what it means, yet, but I often hear it when I feel like I'm going to discover something."
>"I'll keep that in mind if I hear it from or around you."
"Okay. Again, wake me up if I have any nightmares."

I tie myself down more thoroughly, and get to bed. The wind picks up, but we have enough bags and tiedowns to keep everything with us. Still, I think about events.

>Were you at the edge looking at stars or not? How did you get close enough to dip your tail in the soup?
I did turn to look at the stars to make sure my knowledge wasn't completely fabricated. This area isn't roomy, so just by turning around and not walking far from the pot, I left my tail within range of the soup. I don't believed I ever actually backed up, other than moving to pull my tail out of the pot.

"Okei, earlier, did you tell me to back up?"
>"Yeah?"
"It was odd to say that. I should have moved forward, to get my tail out of the pot."
>"The point was to back away from the soup! Did I have to talk perfectly?"
"If I actually backed up, I would have tripped and fell into the pot."
>"Nice."

I tap my goggles to ask Alison. Her perspective seemed to line up with mine.

The memory of my hive's star chart seems solid by itself, but how it connects to the rest of my life is too fuzzy for comfort. I doubt it's the reason we got mixed up with salikai or the criminal underworld. It's possible it ended up in a space museum, though. We've traded a lot of information and goods with Vanski's partners. It's entirely possible our star charts were sent out as a novelty at some point and went through various hands. It's less possible that it'd have left our hands without me being aware of it. It's alarming, in fact that it just doesn't seem to exist outside of that stretch of memory.

>"You're messing up sleeping." Okei says. "You always this stressed when trying to sleep?"
"Lately, yes."
>"Want me to read you a bedtime story?" asks Okei.
"You don't know how to read."
>"Don't be judging me, mister wears goggles to sleep."
>"Well," Alison says, once there's silence, "You could apply that fur dye."

I may as well do something while unable to sleep. I'll just have to choose what color to dye my fur, and what color contacts to change my eye color with.
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No. 849262 ID: c2051e

Mimic Okei's in case people start looking at you weird for having a random kid with you.
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No. 849263 ID: 86eb65

Have Okei read you a bedtime story as you dye yourself. Maybe we will get lucky and she will say a phrase that will unlock another memory.

As for colors we could go jungle green. But honestly think on what would fit your body type. Each color of neumono tends to have slightly different body proportions. Aim for a color that matches yours so any 3-d face scanning tech would not throw up a red flag.

Eyes? Something generic like brown or blue. Neumono tend to have a huge variety so something that matches your new fur.
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No. 849266 ID: 33d4be

Have her tell you a story anyway.

As for fur/eye colour, something that would make you believably related to Okei, but also something that wouldn't seem incongruous with your facial structure, size, fur texture or other type-markers.
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No. 849278 ID: 810054

>>849260
You'd look good in white. Listen to her story.
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No. 849282 ID: 3abd97

>>849260
I have to admit some morbid fascination as to what Okei considers a bedtime story. We should listen.
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No. 849283 ID: 91ee5f

If you're gonna dye your fur, wouldn't that mean that you'd have to remove your clothes to dye your entire body? Wouldn't it be very awkward to strip in front of a child? Hopefully Okei won't think you're a pedophile or something like that!
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No. 849291 ID: bfb318
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849291

"Tell me a story anyway, I've got to do something."
>"Hm... oh, I know. You know that knife game where you put your fingers on a table and stab between your fingers?"
"Yes. It's popular amongst showoffs."
>"Yeah! One of the guys at my complex told me about the days before I showed up. Apparently there were too many people like you wanting shelter for the night, so they played a game where someone who wanted to spend the night had to put a bullet in a six shooter, put the gun to their head, and pull the trigger. They had to do it once for every night they wanted to stay for. The thing is, is that the gun they had to use was made so that the loaded chamber was always the one to be active when they pulled the trigger. So every single time, they'd shoot themselves right in the head!"
"... I'm not sure this is a bedtime story."
>"It's time for bed, and it's a story, so yes it is. Also I'm not done so shut up. It stopped when a certain girl showed up. She played the game like the rest, but she wanted to stay there. So she wanted to play the game enough to stay there for awhile. So for the first night, she played once, shot herself right in the head. But unlike most of the others, she didn't get knocked out, and even wanted to keep going! So she loaded another bullet to try again so she could stay for two nights in a row. Hit herself again! And she kept going until she was able to just fire straight through the hole in her head!"
"I think I get it. Good story. Please stop."
>"Haha fine."
"You made it sound like I knew this girl."
>"Yeah, you do! She was the same girl you first saw in the building, who tried to rob you."
".... the one that said 'ow' when you hit her with the gun?"
>"She's a total softy now. Uh why are you making your face blue? Actually nevermind I really don't care."

>Wouldn't you have to remove your clothes to dye your entire body?
For now, I'll just dye what will be visible while clothed, and dye my entire body later.

I decided on a light blue fur color, making myself look between a cerulean and snow neumono. The dye is good enough to hide both of my fur colors. I make my eye color dark blue.

"I'm going to try to sleep now."
>"Same."
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No. 849292 ID: bfb318
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849292

I wake up at dawn. Okei is still asleep.

>"Good morning, Likol." Alison says. "Did you sleep alright?"
"Yes, thank you."

It takes me a moment to process that I truthfully did sleep alright. There were no dreams.

>"I've gotten you an appointment for today at 8 PM, but it is a couple hours away by car. It'll cost around 5000 zeny, but it's worth it."
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No. 849295 ID: 3abd97

>>849292
Likol's gotten so paranoid he's even started looking like Polo now.

>doctor's appointment
What can you tell me about the doctor, and their place?
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No. 849296 ID: 86eb65

Have her give you all the info on this "doctor".

Want to make sure they are not working for the bad guys on the side. And if they do we need to figure a way of convincing them we are someone looking for Likol.
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No. 849301 ID: 3ce125

>>849292
Info please. But yes take the appointment unless there are some serious red flags.
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No. 849302 ID: 33d4be

Ok, ask for information on this doctor. Are they are a regular doctor, a street doctor, a medical student, retiree? And are you just meeting them at their normal business place, their home, or somewhere else? What makes them trustworthy?

Also, how's the money situation, overall? Are any more funds going to come in?

Also see if you can find any big sunglasses that can cover your goggles. Like some big silly fashion visor thing, or one of those oversized sets that are designed to fit on top of someone's prescription glasses. Because you should take your goggles off when wandering around where someone or any cameras could see you, but you might forget again.
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No. 849313 ID: bfb318
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849313

"Please elaborate."
>"It's in the suburbs of this town, where a lot of war veterans live. This doctor likes to study the mental health of neumono, and his office is in the middle of a hive that probably protects him but otherwise doesn't interfere. His interest in mental health is why I chose him, because he should take a good interest in your case more than treating yet another bullet wound or other physical trauma."
"If that's the case, why is he out here?"
>"To avoid the political drama, but that's all I know. I'm sorry, I couldn't pry too hard, but there are some reasons why a doctor can't, or won't, get a real license."
"Is this person not a real doctor?"
>"If you mean real as in legally recognized by an ultrahive, no. He's well respected in the town, and appears to know his stuff."
"Okay, if there's no major red flags, then I will go. How is the situation with the money?"
>"Things are still gaining traction, here, but for that it's doing well. If you want to get some money, I can arrange for some. I can also get a taxi to drive you to the doctor's place, if you don't want to take a bus."
"Let me think. And before I forget, remind me at some point to get a big pair of sunglasses, or goggles, to wear over this set."
>"Will do!"

I wouldn't have to leave for another 12 hours anyway, and I may want a way to kill time.
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No. 849320 ID: d9cd96

Solitaire until you go insane from playing solitaire. So like two games or so.
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No. 849332 ID: 86eb65

Have fun with Okei.

Learn her stories and show her fun stuff you can do. Try to lure her into considering the benefits of a education.

Just try to relax and get away from the mess your head has become.

Oh a question for Alison. Is this doc a neumono? Also look up more info on the hive that surrounds him. Not to downplay Alisons info gathering skills but you would know more about your employers habits and be able to tell if this is one of there outside operations best.
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No. 849333 ID: 33d4be

Make sure you have the money you need to pay him on hand, plus enough for your own needs after. You don't want to be short of money in case of any emergency or sudden cut-off. Ask the doctor's name and species, too.

Spend time teaching Okei how to read, first of all, and when fatigue sets in for that teach her other useful things. See how her maths are, and maybe pry open some access panel on the tower here and teach her some basics about electronics and radios and such, for something she might take more practical interest in.
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No. 849340 ID: 3abd97

>office in the middle of a hive
If you're still giving off weird double empathy, you might raise some kind of stir going through there. (Or maybe not, if they're used to the doc getting mental patients).

Might want to check with Okei if you're still doing that when she wakes, since that does limit what you can do in the meantime.
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No. 849346 ID: de6d84

See what other stories Okei might have once she wakes up, after checking your empathy issue with her first.
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No. 849352 ID: 91ee5f

>>849313
>I may want a way to kill time.
While you're waiting for Okei to wake up, finish dying the rest of your body.
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No. 849363 ID: c88e6d

>>849313
Try writing things down. On paper.
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No. 849395 ID: 33d4be

>>849363

Hmm, there's an idea. Likol could try writing down a timeline of his life, at least the last 10 years or so. Maybe figure out where there are seams in his memory.

He could also write down some stuff to be hidden, for blackmailing purposes. "Insurance", you know? Testimonies that certain authorities would be very interested to see. Post offices are generally kept pretty secure, and they wouldn't blink too much at instructions like "hey, I'm hoping to deliver this package myself at a certain date, but I might not be able to, could you hold on to this and send it if I don't pick it up again within X months?", that sort of thing. You wouldn't address it right to a police office, that'd be too suspicious, but you could find out some particular detective's name and home address.

... Actually, you could instruct them to send it in X amount of time anyway. I mean, is there any going back now? Why hold back for any reason other than protecting the CAI? You can put a delay on the info related to the CAI itself so it doesn't interfere with you getting it to Arza, and from him on to somewhere safe, but why hold back on anything else you know? That memory of Vanski's made it clear your hive is already probably in "fate worse than death" territory, so tipping the authorities off can only improve things for you. Why include any way of taking it back at all? Someone could control you with a predator and tell you to go cancel it. Unless you can think of a way to make it into leverage for your hive to be treated better, there's no reason not to try tripping the people who are after you into as deep a hole as you can find.
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No. 849403 ID: a27883

You should get some new clothing to go along with your new dyed look.
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No. 849425 ID: 15a025

If you think you can afford to spend a few zenny on some leisure things, have Alison search around for some good books to help Okei practice reading with. Maybe a good board game or something too.
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No. 849519 ID: bfb318
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849519

"What is the species of the doctor?"
>"A miklik, but with a couple of neumono assistants. His name is Doctor Renson."
"And what about the hive that protects them?"
>"It looks like they're deserters from the ultrahive wars. I don't see anything unusual about them otherwise, and even that isn't really unusual."

Before I consider the day's activities, I put on the rest of the dye while Okei is asleep, and begin cooking breakfast. I also think about more serious things while Okei isn't awake to admonish me for being too serious. I'll want to pick up some new clothes while I'm in town. I can get Okei some things to learn with, too, with a little bit of spare money. I have around 30k zeny.

I consider the last 10 years of my life, or thereabouts. I don't think there are as many seams there, at least not up until the last week or two. Then again, there isn't much. Every day, I would study the CAI progress with little known progress, not knowing if it would go anywhere. It was simple, but it kept me busy, and I was ready to do it until death by old age.

"Alison, is it possible for a post office to deliver mail with a delay? One that I can cancel or... maybe not even allow me to cancel it, and just send it out after 6 months."
>"Yes - ah, let me clarify. Yes, with legitimate post offices that are secure. Ultrahive post offices have some flaws and people talking about how they're not always as reliable as they should be, but they should be okay. In a place like here, the same services may be available, but they have a reputation for unreliability and corruption."

>You can write down some sensitive information, for blackmailing purposes. Why hold back for any reason other than protecting the CAI?
Protecting the CAI is a good reason to me. It's the entire reason I haven't done this already. Also, without knowing what happened to my hive for certain, I wonder if I can't be blackmailed back. If I do this, it should be done reliably, and Alison didn't give me a lot of faith in the local post office.

Okei wakes up and groans.

>"Feeeeeed meee."
"I'm working on it. Do I still have double empathy?"
>"Yeah."
"Do you want to play a board game?"
>"Uh do I need to know how to read?"
"I'm hoping to find one with easy, minimal reading."
>"Minimal? Wait a second you're still trying to get me to learn to read aren't you?!"
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No. 849525 ID: 86eb65

Yes.

It's honestly not that hard to pick up at your age and you won't regret learning. Why not give it a chance?
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No. 849526 ID: 91ee5f

>>849519
>"Minimal? Wait a second you're still trying to get me to learn to read aren't you?!"
Yes. If your reading skills get better, then you can get a better job that pays better money.
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No. 849530 ID: c2051e

Yes. And also making free food.
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No. 849532 ID: 33d4be

>If I do this, it should be done reliably, and Alison didn't give me a lot of faith in the local post office.

Hmm. Are there private secure courier services, then? There should be, if the post is known to be unreliable. They'd be more expensive, especially with a delay (since you'd basically be using them as a bank), but also more likely to put up with weird requests. You could also hire a secure courier to deliver your package and instructions to a reliable post office on your behalf, which would be cheaper.

You could also do something more creative. Like, you could look at local construction projects, check the planning permission records (which should be available publicly), make some relatively simple projections about growth, and conceal a package full of info in a place where construction will be likely to develop in a few years. They find it while doing their surveys and, hopefully, follow the instructions.

>Wait a second you're still trying to get me to learn to read aren't you?!

"Tell you what: you tell me, let's say, the top five things you'd like to learn how to do, and I'll tell you if being able to read would help you learn them."
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No. 849533 ID: 3abd97

>Wait a second you're still trying to get me to learn to read aren't you?!
Do you really want to leave things so everyone who can read can pull one over on you?
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No. 849542 ID: bfb318
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849542

>Are there private secure courier services, then?
There may be, but may also be more difficult to find a suitable one. I'll consider this more after I deal with Okei.

"Yes, while giving you free food."
>"Hrmnmffgnh."

After making whatever noise that is, she relents and gets her free food, so I don't push her more for the moment.

Since I don't have a jammer yet, I want to avoid going into town any more than possible. While we eat, Alison is able to send another delivery drone with various goods inside and delivers them up to us. Okei is quick to grab it and unpackage it. She looks at the receipt.

>"400 zeny?! For a board game?!"
"You can keep it."
>"I could live the rest of my life on that much!"
"Most jobs pay more than that every day, but only to - "
>"People who can read." she makes a mocking imitation of my speech.
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No. 849543 ID: bfb318
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849543

The package also contains some clothes for me, and a small tent for my general use, but it can be used right now to protect the board game from the wind.

It's a fantasy themed game, and Alison's judgement seemed adequate for this. It was her second choice, but the first choice was a board game specifically designed to teach neumono to read, and Alison feared that Okei might be resistant towards something like that. That judgement was likely correct. Despite being a strategic game with a team on defense and a team on attack, it's relatively simple. Much of the playing is done with dice, and Okei knows more basic arithmetic than I thought she would, and I spend some time making her learn letters and sounding out words. For all her fighting against learning how to read, she picks it up quickly. It helps that she is aggressively competitive and wants to break down my wall, but doesn't want me to go easy on her, either, so she never wins.

There's still only so much reading one can learn in a handful of hours. Before I know it, Alison alerts me that it's 2 PM. I should start preparing to climb back down the radio tower and get ready to get a taxi or other service.

I get the impression that Okei wants to come with me.
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No. 849548 ID: 86eb65

Might as well let her come. If you don't she will just sneak after you anyway.

While you are getting ready and heading over there ask her what route you should take to avoid as many people as possible noticing your dual empathy.
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No. 849551 ID: 68550e
849551

Take her along, maybe test out what she's learned by reading some text along the way on signs.
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No. 849558 ID: 3abd97

>I get the impression that Okei wants to come with me.
You really want to sit in a room while a doctor asks me if I'm crazy?

Probably safer(ish) to take her than leave her, though she's probably going to be stuck in the waiting room.
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No. 849576 ID: 33d4be

Take her with you. She's part of your cover (people keeping an eye out for a neumono traveling alone might not watch so sharply for a pair), and if she's very lucky this hive the doctor lives with might take some interest in her. It'd be good for her to meet more people, anyway.

Remember to take your goggles off in public. Can you fasten them to hang around your neck somehow? If you could do that, and find something like a scarf, it might be a way to keep your goggles close enough to your ears for Alison to speak to you while not looking like you're wearing goggles.

Even just wearing the goggles around your neck instead of on your head might break the mental image people would have of you enough to slightly reduce the chances of you being recognized.
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No. 849605 ID: d36af7

Is there any reason not to bring Okei? I mean, let's talk worst-case scenarios, say a bunch of ninjas loaded with ridiculous cutting-edge salikai tech show up out of nowhere, trying to grab the CAI. I'm pretty sure in a situation like that, Okei would be shooting the baddies first and asking questions afterward. Did you even bring a gun of your own?
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No. 849606 ID: bfb318
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849606

I'll let her accompany me.

"I've got to get to the doctor."
>"I'm coming too." says Okei, as expected.
"Oka- Alright."

One of Alison's items was a large visor to go over my face, which covers up my goggles. Okei laughs at the fashion that must have gone out of date long before she was born.

"I'm renting a car." says Alison. "The numerical password is 48915. It's driving itself to a parking lot close by, so you don't need to walk far."
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No. 849607 ID: bfb318
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849607

As expected, it's there.

>"Who's car is this?"
"I rented it."
>"What, when? How?"
"Through the power of technology, and reading the - "
>"Oh my gosh I get it, shush!"

By the door handle is a cover. Alison uses my goggles highlights to open it up to reveal a keypad, and enter a password to unlock the car.

>"You know how to drive?" Okei asks.
"I do, but the local driving laws..."
>"Please don't." says Alison. "Driving manually isn't covered by the car's warranty. You won't have to pay a zeny if the car gets into an accident while autopilot is engaged. The downside is that they won't cover your medical expenses if you get into an accident either, but they use a well established driving program, and it's much safer than the average driver. If you just plug me in, I'll tell the car where to go."
"There's no need." I say to Okei. "The car can drive itself."
>"Where's the fun in that?"
"There are things to do in life that aren't fun." I plug in Alison, and the car starts up.
>"That's real lame of you."
"It's real adult of me."
>"Then I'll be the first non-lame adult."
"As all children claim."
>"Too bad you won't even live that long to see!"

....

>"Oh my god I was kidding, are you actually dying?"
"According to our life expectancy, probably."

It takes about 10 minutes for all novelty of driving in a car to wear off. Okei starts fidgeting out of boredom by tugging on the car door's handle. In a demonstration of design foresight, and likely past events, the car door does not open.
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No. 849608 ID: 86eb65

Keep a eye on where you are going in case the car is driving you to your doom instead of the doctors.

Play a driving game to keep Okei occupied.
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No. 849611 ID: 3abd97

>>849607
Put your seatbelt on, and make the kid put hers on for goodness sake!

I mean as neumono you might survive a messy crash, but neither of you will enjoy it, and then you'll be hospital bound until Vanski finds you.

>Okei starts fidgeting out of boredom by tugging on the car door's handle
You could talk to her. Or play punch buggy or whatever the space-future equivalent is. Or just let her surf the radio.
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No. 849614 ID: a363ac

>>849607
play patty cake with Okei
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No. 849616 ID: c2051e

Seatbelts and a driving game sound good.
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No. 849623 ID: 33d4be

You'll be meeting that hive that the doctor lives with, right? Ask Okei if she knows how to behave herself around a hive, things like not insulting anyone because everyone will take offense, things like that. Aside from that, maybe you can pass the time by telling her how cars work.

You removed Alison from the car once she told it where to go, right? No need to keep her constantly plugged in.
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No. 849625 ID: 33d4be

By the way, that visor DOES look pretty odd by itself. If you don't want people to suspect you of hiding something under it, you need to pick up some other fashion items that go with it, so it looks like part of an ensemble.

A black leather jacket would be just the thing, or anything like it that would be cheaper. A very practical garment, and no-one would suspect you of being a scientist then. You could pick up another item or two to go with it.
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No. 849631 ID: c88e6d

>>849607
Start playing "I Spy".
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No. 849637 ID: 3ce125

"I Spy" is a good idea. She might know how enough words are spelled to play it effectively, too.
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No. 849669 ID: 22faaa

At some point you should take out those laptops you aren't supposed to connect to anything and either extract the data from them and get rid of them, or clean them out so you can use them normally.
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No. 849674 ID: 3ce125

>>849669
Can't extract data without connecting something to them, and we're not taking chances there. At best we could take photos of the computer screen to capture some data. THAT would be completely isolated from whatever weird shit is on the laptops.
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No. 849686 ID: 33d4be

>>849674

If we could find some really ancient or otherwise low-powered potato computer, something incapable of running any sort of sentient AI, we could use it to connect and view some things while isolated, try to hunt down the problem, and then destroy it before anything could connect to anything else. Or we could buy a more modern computer and deliberately cripple its memory and processing power, or something. I'm sure Likol could figure out some way to make a computer weak enough to not be able to run anything terrible while still able to do something useful.
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No. 849718 ID: de6d84

Play 20 questions

Let Okei discover radio.
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No. 849728 ID: 91ee5f

>>849611
>play punch buggy or whatever the space-future equivalent is.
I get the feeling Okei is gonna enjoy that way more than she should.
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No. 849768 ID: c1bbd0

Fidget with Okei's seats and see how she reacts.
Any buttons on your side to do so?
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No. 850165 ID: bfb318
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850165

Wearing a helmet inside of a car makes me stand out a lot. I take it off, then keep a hand on my goggles. I may purchase some clothes to go with the helmet later.

"Seat belt, Okei." I say, putting mine on.
>"No thanks."
"It wasn't an offer."
>"Make me!"
"... I hope you behave better when we get to our destination. We'll be in the middle of another hive."

I've unplugged Alison from the car, and now text her on my phone to ask what kind of vehicular games exist. I've heard of some, like 'punch buggy', but I have no idea what the rules are.

>"They're all alarmingly violent." says Alison. "A lot of punching each other?"
"Okei, do you know how to play I Spy?"
>"Yeah?"
"I spy something fluffy."
>"The clouds?"

It's a game better played by non-empathy aliens. I don't feel like getting punched, so I turn my attention elsewhere.

"You can play with the radio." I briefly show Okei how to operate it.

She finds the volume dial, and a channel category that seems to be a wide assortment of neumono screaming into their microphones. For a brief moment, I consider messing with Okei's seat, but I don't have the buttons on this side of the car to do so. Plus, she quickly catches on to me.
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No. 850166 ID: bfb318
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850166

The appeal of her 'music' is lost on me, but she has such a good time listening to the radio that I don't have the heart to ask her to stop. Or even to turn it down. I just put on some headphones and drown it out with some white noise.

I'd want to remain wary to my surroundings, but the weather goes bad, and visibility goes down. The car slows down, but continues. After an hour and a half, after the sun goes down, Okei has crawled into the back seat and fallen asleep. I turn the volume down.

"Alison, can you put on some calmer music?"

....

>"Yes! Here we go."
"That was an unusual delay."
>"I'm sorry."

>"A couple of Alisons have gone missing."
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No. 850167 ID: c88e6d

>>850166
We are under attack. Direct all Alisons to counter-cyberwarfare and isolating the systems that eliminated the prior Alisons. If necessary, have Alison disassemble one of her selves to isolate potential Code Markers that might allow remote tracking.
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No. 850170 ID: 86eb65

The internet is not a safe place for roaming ai's. Lots of tech in place to deal with stuff like that.

Tell her to be extra careful with any copies she sends out. Even if they are deleting themselves when caught if one is found at the wrong moment data will be compromised. Don't want stuff traced back or worse one of the copies being captured.

Ask which Alisons went missing. That and how the fundraising is going.
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No. 850174 ID: 3ce125

Missing? Could she tell if they were spotted and had to self-destruct?
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No. 850175 ID: 3abd97

>>"A couple of Alisons have gone missing."
More information, please. Where were they, what were they tasked with doing, how long ago, and did they report anything unusual previously?

Best case they fell afoul of normal anti-AI or anti-CAI measures (but even then that might mean scrutiny that would limit other Alions' effectiveness). Worse case, Vanski and his allies found your digital trail.
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No. 850176 ID: 33d4be

You need to examine Alison for any changes in her program, the sudden appearance of background programs or reduction in her storage/processing power, a different pattern in her "brain" activity, et cetera. Worst case scenario is that Alisons haven't just gone missing, but whoever made them go missing learned enough that the remaining Alisons are bugged or subverted.

Before that, though, tell her to tell the... let's say three Alisons who are least likely to have been located to hide themselves, or make copies of themselves to be hidden, in such a way as to become inaccessible for some time. Like, months, maybe even one or two for years. Make sure it's a variety of places - a random low-visibility company's network, onto a not-really-tech-savvy old person's computer, disguised as an anonymous author on an amateur fiction website, et cetera. Not only things that are totally inactive but some things with regular, boring activity, which can be less noticeable than nothing; odd to say, but given the sort of people after you, I can imagine an Alison who did pretend to be a webcam girl being safer than most (Did any do anything like that suggestion? I doubt she could manage faking a realtime real-life camera view, but at this point in the future I'd imagine there are people who use motion capture with programs to replace their video image with a computer generated character and setting they'd pretend to be, while responding to a chat or playing a game or whatever, and she could manage that). After whatever time is assigned them, those Alisons should emerge again. Alisons relaying that information to those hiding ones would need to erase their records, obviously. She also needs to get a probably-safe Alison to quickly do a dump of resources somewhere you can access, in case your access to the money they've been collecting for you suddenly vanishes. Better to have most of it now and give up what you could potentially have made off it than risk losing it all.

You might also instruct her to send some Alisons to do obviously (but not too obviously) visible stuff, acting as bait for other, better hidden Alisons to observe what happens to them.

She also needs to make doubly sure of the security of the Alisons' connections to each other and especially their connection back to this particular Alison in your goggles. She should have already set up decoys for the information going to you to be going to other places as well, but make sure.
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No. 850218 ID: 094652

Define "gone". You can't find them, or did they send an "under attack" signal, or were the platforms they were on turned into electronic scrap?

This might be a problem. Create some fake Alison.exe dummies designed to worm their way out and signal from wherever the cyber attacks are coming from. End them fast and take their stuff before they can reverse-engineer your code.
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No. 850244 ID: 916be7

Alison knew the risks shen she first sent them out, and said she had security measures to prevent tracing them back. This hurts resources, but isn't a huge threat to us. The separate Alisons shouldn't be connected to one another either, so gone probably means they stopped their visible tasks, but asking if there's any specifics our Alison found won't hurt.
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No. 850322 ID: 1e7aa8

We need more information, yeah. Start asking alison all of the questions. Might be prudent to check and see if you are being tailed/digitally monitored.
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No. 850326 ID: de6d84

How many, if an estimate?
Ask many questions.
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No. 850333 ID: e6994f

Maybe have Alison keep an eye on the general activities of the Alisons that disappeared. What were they doing before they vanished?
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No. 850355 ID: bfb318
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850355

"What do you know about them?"
>"One was creating music. Another was offering online tutelage."
"How is the fundraising going, in general?"
>"Outside of that, very well!"
"Okay. Be careful sending out copies. The slightest slip-up could leak data, and trace back to me. Did they report anything?"
>"No, they were supposed to report in about 10 minutes ago. The last I heard from them was 4 hours ago during their previous check-in, and they said things were going well."
"You're not in constant contact with them?"
>"No, just to be safe, we're not in regular contact. But now that something's happened, we don't know what went wrong."
"Can we send a few of the Alisons to lay dormant for awhile? Then bring them back later, and learn from that."
>"Hm... I don't understand what we'll learn, but I will do that."
"Can you tell me what all the Alisons are doing?"

There are 18 Alisons now, down from 20. Some are doing creative work, others are doing social things like chatbotting and even webcamming, while others are doing tutoring to some degree. A few are farming game currency, and a couple are looking into day trading. A couple, as well, are looking into artificial intelligence studies, in order to see what security measures are in place to detect AI activity, and of course, how to bypass it.

"Would it be possible for some less hidden Alisons to be bait, so the more hidden Alisons could see what happens?"
>"Hmm... I'll see what I can do."
"Please keep me updated. Tell me anything."
>"Okay, Likol."

I unplug her from my phone and run some quick diagnostics through my goggles. I don't see any red flags that tell me there were significant changes to her code, at least outside of data she's processed and stored. This Alison, at least, doesn't seem to be affected.
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No. 850357 ID: bfb318
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850357

I keep studying the modules and code of Alison for some time. I don't think I'm being tailed, and in this weather, no one can spy me from far away.

I adjust my seat. The car is going to disengage auto pilot, as it won't know precisely where to go at the destination. There's a driveway leading into the hive complex, and a welcome booth.

>"Hi. Reason for visiting?"
"I have a doctor's appointment."
>"Name?"

Alison supplies information.

"Fisher."
>".... you really Fisher?"
"I can give you the verification number, if you want."
>"Good enough for me. Who's that kid lying in the back?"
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No. 850358 ID: c2051e

"A kid."
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No. 850359 ID: 86eb65

She is my local guide/student.
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No. 850361 ID: f66698

You can be free with information about okei, she's not wanted by anyone.
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No. 850364 ID: fb7a8e

>>850357
Rouge kid I'm tutoring.
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No. 850367 ID: a363ac

she is my service animal in training.
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No. 850368 ID: 91ee5f

>>850357
"A kid I'm teaching how to read."
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No. 850369 ID: 28d633

Okei is totally Likol's service pet. She helps keep his empathy in control and grounds him when he starts going off the deep end. Likol would be lost without Okei (literally in the woods still probably).
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No. 850372 ID: 3abd97

>".... you really Fisher?"
Like no one coming to see an unlicensed doctor uses an alias.

>Who's that kid lying in the back?
Joke: she's a service animal.
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No. 850373 ID: de6d84

>>850369
Perfect.
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No. 850374 ID: c2051e

>>850369
Changing my vote to this. Be sure to write it on Okei's clothing or something, it can be a test of when she learns to read.
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No. 850376 ID: 33d4be

I assume empathy's open, hence why he asked if you were really Fisher? It's important to know these things, so we know how misleading you can be. Pretending to be related to her won't fly with another neumono who's attention is focused on you.

On that assumption, you can probably just be pretty honest. She's a loose rogue kid that you hired as a guide and assistant. You don't suppose they happen to be looking for spare kids?

>>850355
>the face

Alison is pretty expressive. If she's not sapient she might well still be equivalent to a higher animal in terms of awareness and being able to feel things. The last time you really investigated that, she hadn't been active for long, had she? Now that she's been around a while, you should sit down with her some time and see if her personality or outlook have changed, ask her if she's revised her knowledgebase or mode of operations based on things she's observed. Find out if she's been learning and changing. Maybe ask her if she wants to do anything, or take time off for something.

You could probably also ask for activity logs from a couple of her copies and review them to see if there are any traceable patterns or similarities that she can be spotted by. Remember, the people who are after you probably have their own copies of this Alison program, and they'll probably have both chosen a more aggressive/ruthless/obedient personality and put theirs on a more powerful system. Maybe you should ask her to make more of herself? Sheer numbers might be the only way for your Alisons to compete with their counterparts.
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No. 850381 ID: bfb318
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850381

"Service.... animal." There must be a better word than animal or pet. This person at the booth senses my hesitation at saying that to Okei, so he likely understands my meaning. Despite the lack of a jammer here, he doesn't seem to question the concept of a service neumono, or the fact that I am still emanating double empathy.

>Alison sapience
It's an ongoing debate about if someone with her intelligence could be considered non-sapient.

I no longer trust myself to decide whether or not an AI is sapient. I will presume sapience, but I will also respect Alisons wishes even at the risk she's putting herself in. I will ask for more detailed activity logs from various copies, that way, if they go missing as well, I might just be able to detect some kind of correlation.

>Find out if she's been learning and changing.
She has been. Her learning has been alarmingly fast, even. From what I have seen she has her 'core' brain, the data she's stored and learned, and her decision making modules based around the organization of facts. As far as I can tell, her core brain has been untouched from when I first ran hugs.exe. She is identical to any other Alison, outside of the decision making personality tweaks, and what data she's been introduced to. Those things are not insignificant, I'll note. Maybe I will have a more personable talk with her later.

>"Here, park your car in front of building F, it's the one with the spotlight in front of it. Fill out this form in your car, then go in once it's 6 PM."
"Okay."

I park the car, and start filling out the form he hands me. Interestingly, I don't sense any neumono inside building F, but there is a hive surrounding me that pays vague attention. Perhaps there is a jammer bubble around building F. The form asks various health questions, like how physically active I am, if I smoke, my sex life, and so on. Interestingly, nearly every question has an option of 'I don't know,' as well as 'decline to state'.

>"Please answer as honestly as you can." Alison whispers. "But I understand if you want to give as little information as possible.

There are a few things that I might want to not give away in full.

>Age
>Reason for coming in
>Neumono ancestry (Snow, redgrass, etc)
>Hive status (Hive, rogue, born rogue, jammer city)
>Occupation

There is a note at the bottom explaining that while there is nothing making me tell the truth or answer at all, the accuracy of the tests can only be as accurate as the information given.
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No. 850382 ID: 86eb65

Honestly we are still way to close to the spire for any of this to be remotely safe. But you got a second personality and both brain damage and brainwashing going on. Possibly years of mental manipulation to boot.

You need help from someone and just have to hope this place is safe.


Flub your age to some random number.

Reason is cause you have a guitar playing hallucination who has his own empathy in your head.

What type of neumono are you even? You sort of look like a mutt and your hive is all over the place color wise.

Hive status should be a safe question.

Occupation: High School/College science teacher.
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No. 850383 ID: 3abd97

>There are a few things that I might want to not give away in full.
>the accuracy of the tests can only be as accurate as the information given.
They probably aren't posting their medical records online, and if Vanski's agents are close enough on your tail to find you in paper records, you're in trouble no matter if you lie or not. Let's be as honest as you can.

>my sex life
When my hive makes me.

>Age
Probably best to be vague. Lots of people born before first contact might have a hard time with the exact number.

>Reason for coming in
Memory problems, hallucinations, unusual empathy reported by others

>Neumono ancestry (Snow, redgrass, etc)
Mostly redgrass with some cerulean.

>Hive status (Hive, rogue, born rogue, jammer city)
Check "Hive" and "don't know".

>Occupation
Researcher.
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No. 850384 ID: 91ee5f

>>850381
>Reason for coming in
"Double Empathy"
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No. 850386 ID: 3ce125

>>850381

>Age
I don't know
>Reason for coming in
Memory problems, hallucinations, unusual empathy reported by others
>Neumono ancestry (Snow, redgrass, etc)
Mostly redgrass with some cerulean.
>Hive status (Hive, rogue, born rogue, jammer city)
Hive
>Occupation
decline to state
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No. 850388 ID: a363ac

>>850381
Age : old enough that its starting to show but otherwise unknown.
Occupation: teaching a Special needs helper to read.
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No. 850390 ID: 33d4be

Age: Pre-contact (which can probably stand for "I can't be really sure")
Reason for coming in: Double empathy, various other symptoms (other neumono can tell the first anyway)
Neumono ancestry: Ambiguous (Your hive has a lot of brown and pinkish hues, but you don't seem redgrassish beyond that? And you move around a lot so I'd imagine you picked up genes from several sources)
Hive status: Hive
Occupation: Various, currently software engineer

By the way, those "bait" Alisons could probably make themselves visible just by investigating the disappeared ones more closely. That would also present a slim possibility of rescuing/recovering them.
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No. 850497 ID: 9d4af9

>>850390
This is a good answer.
It's not very dangerous to give an approximation of your profession: there are a lot of engineers in the world.
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No. 850616 ID: bfb318
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850616

Age: Precontact
Reason for coming in: Hallucinations, multiple empathy
Ancestry: Various
Hive status: Hive
Occupation: Teacher/Software Engineer

It's not far from the truth, outside of my ancestry, which has minimal cerulean.

I leave Okei in the car. It's within empathy range of the entire building. It's just a large storage container, but it is well lit. The miklik doctor and two neumono are inside. I get the impression that the assistants are also bodyguards. They note my double empathy, but don't say anything about it.

>"Hello, you are Fisher?" the miklik asks. "I am Doctor Renson."
"Yes." I hand him my form, and he takes a cursory glance at it.
>"Cash up front be fine, I assume. It will cover the scan, blood work, and analysis of both. Any treatment will have other fees."
"Blood work?"
>"Blood can be affected by the brain to some degree, and so blood samples can serve as a corraborator to the brain scan results. There is all too much uncertainty in a neumono brain, so the more we can get to verify noise to the signal, the better."
"That's fine." I hand one of the assistants the money.
>"There's no reason to wait. If you have no other questions, we can start."
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No. 850618 ID: 3abd97

>>850616
Oh right, lying about your ancestry makes sense when you're currently dyed blue.

>If you have no other questions, we can start.
I think any questions we have are more likely to come up once he starts having ideas or asking us things.
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No. 850623 ID: 86eb65

Have Alison (if you can talk to her) see if she can monitor any signals going out of here. If your dna/info is in a database that they compare the bloodwork to they might get a ping back on you if the bad guys are monitoring stuff.

All we can really hope for is a early warning so we have a chance to flee faster if things go bad.
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No. 850626 ID: 3ce125

>>850616
Ask how well they can keep secrets here.
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No. 850627 ID: 0d45a9

>>850623
Likol's not wearing the goggles and we're in front of people, so we can't do that without looking weird.

I know doctor-patient confidentiality most likely a given, but ask if things will be kept private.
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No. 850633 ID: 3cc68c

The best way to hint for Alison to monitor stuff would be to make small talk with the doctor. You are a man of science and are surely interested in what tests he is going to do.

Ask what sort of blood tests they do and how they work. Ask him how he got into neumono medicine. Inquire if there is any sort of online database for empathy based illnesses. Because you sure checked online in a panic when this started happening and did not find any.

Basically find out exactly what is going to happen during this visit and how he is going to review the test results. Will it take a second appointment to get the results back?

Hopefully Alison will get the jist of what you are asking about and watch for any connections to lab result companies that might trigger any flags.
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No. 850635 ID: 90f3c0

"Do you have any experience dealing with evil superscience?"

But seriously, ask him if how common double empathy is, and if he's dealt with this kind of thing before.
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No. 850644 ID: 33d4be

>just a large shipping container

What, like literally one of those big metal boxes that they just put on and off freighters? That's a bit off. These guys seemed like they had good, well-built-up facilities, and you were told to go to "building F". Surely if you'd parked yourself in front of a shipping container you'd have taken note of it before? Didn't the guy on the gate say it had a light in front of it? Who puts a light in front of a shipping container?

And... hmm. That guy's jacket has wet spots on it, or are they stains? It was raining, but if he had gotten wet from rain it would be concentrated on his shoulders. They could be random spots from a leaky roof. Does this container have drips from the ceiling?

Anyway, yes you have questions. First, tell him that your condition is distressing, and you're afraid that what he discovers might mean serious trouble for your hive, so you're very concerned about confidentiality. That's part of why you contacted him specifically, so you're sure he understands. First, what's behind the sheet? No-one else listening in, you hope, or any devices with any recording ability? You'd also like to ask his assistants directly how good they are at confidentiality. Finally, for now, if possible, you'd like to see the blood analysis done and then your blood disposed of properly, so that it can't be used for genetic tracking. Apologize for being cagey.
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No. 850669 ID: 15a025

Ask for some more details on the tests and procedures they're going to be preforming on you?
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No. 850868 ID: de6d84

Keep an eye out if they start doing anything funny. Otherwise, everything happening here will stay here, right?
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No. 851116 ID: bfb318
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851116

I can't speak directly with Alison at the moment, as I'm not wearing my goggles, and morse code would look weird to do in this situation. Still, her audio is on, so she can at least hear what's going on. She can also rumble or beep or something like an alarm clock, if something looks wrong.

"I have questions about the confidentiality with my visit."
>"Absolute. That is what separates me from legal practice. I do not throw it away."
>"We can shred your papers after the results are given." says the blue assistant.
"What about my blood?"
>"We can dispose of that, too." says the red one. They both appear honest.
>"Honestly," the doctor resumes, "I'd wear a blindfold, ear muffs, and not ask a single question if I could run the tests like that."
"Alright. What is behind the curtain?"

He flips it to the side.

>"Just the machine. We just have the curtain up to hang things off of, given this room."
"Which is just a storage container, like what would be on a freighter? The rest of the hive mostly looked like they had real buildings."
>"Their wall, driveway entry, cafeteria and bunkers are real building. Otherwise, they all live in storage containers like this one, just dressed up to various degrees."

I guess that made sense. I couldn't see clearly in the rain. This container did have the letter 'F' on it, and the floodlight in front of it was on to a mobile stand.

"And the blood, what does the blood test consist of?"
>"Based on the amount of a certain chemical in your blood, we can estimate how much blood your brain is receiving to see if it is in excess or in deficiency."
"Could you not just detect my brain activity with the scan?"
>"The scan is just a snapshot, and many neumono overthink the scan and have higher activity than normal. With the blood, we get a better picture of overall activity. Otherwise, the blood test just involves more typical tests and signs of health to factor in. It says here you have double empathy, for instance. Kakki?"
>"Yep, he's got two people. Distinct, but like hivemates." says the blue one.
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No. 851118 ID: bfb318
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851118

"By the way, how did you get into neumono neuroscience?"
>"Originally I was a general practitioner, but I began to realize my favorite, most interesting cases involved unknown elements of the brain, so I went back into education as a specialist. Instead of learning what was known, I wanted to research neumono brains. You certainly aren't the only organisms to have non-centralized brains, but you are by far the most advanced."
"But you don't practice it legally?"
>"I, too, have secrets, and I like mutual respect in not prying each other too hard."
"Okay. Is there an online database for empathy based illnesses?"
>"Yes, and they've made too many neumono with benign symptoms think they are on death's door."
"Alright, then I'm curious if you've had other double empathy cases like mine?"
>"Hm... technically yes, a number of times, but you have a key difference. Have you been feeling physically drained, lately?"
"No."
>"Similar to you, my other patients with that issue were all precontact. In every case up until now, though, they were only a few years, at most, till death. The brain began to lose cohesion, as they began to lose what made them individuals. Results varied, but by this point, they had shown signs of aging to various degrees. You appear healthy and in good shape. It's not what you've come for, but unless you're sure you're under 140, I would like a fur sample. Between the blood and fur, we can see if you're showing the first signs of aging, before any physical draining is apparent.."
>"Are you self conscious about your fur?" Kakki asks. "It's a nice coat."
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No. 851119 ID: 86eb65

Testing your fur should not pick up the dye. But it could depending on what test they use. Is a risk.

Ask what the fur test looks for and how its tested. Also how big a sample they need. Hopefully Alison can buzz if the dye we used could betray us.

If Alison does not speak up or pretend she is your phone ringing then maybe go with the fur test.
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No. 851121 ID: 69c8aa

I doubt that these guys would bat an eye at dyed fur, considering their situation. Might as well give them a sample. Give them a sample from one of the secondary colored parts like your ears so they can't give an accurate description of your natural fur color if they do end up backstabbing you.
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No. 851122 ID: 1e7aa8

hoo boy, what a loaded gun they've unknowingly pointed at you.

Try not to tip them off with empathy. Tell the doctor he can have his fur sample right before you leave.
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No. 851127 ID: cf5a32

Well, you can tell them you wanted blue fur and dyed it, but ask that the Miklik not show that sample to his Neumono assistants. Fur isn't much to go on, but the less the better.
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No. 851129 ID: 33d4be

"You'll find there's some dye in it. Confidentiality, again. As for age, I'd say I'm closer to 200 than 100, so I'll take the test, though I've been very physically active and my regeneration is working well. Again, I'd like it definitely disposed of. Despite that, I have some suspicions about my condition not being entirely natural, though I'll save those for later, as I'd like your unbiased ideas first. I have a few other symptoms I should tell you about. Memory loss, odd dreams, and hallucinations."
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No. 851130 ID: c2051e

No real point lying to a doctor who you want to figure stuff out. Admit that you're over 200 but that you have reason to suspect the second personality isn't you losing cohesion.
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No. 851139 ID: de6d84

>>851130
This, and may as well give some fur.
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No. 851145 ID: c88e6d

>>851118
Admit you're over 200, but you think someone's been experimenting with Empathy Manipulation on you.
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No. 851152 ID: 91ee5f

>>851118
Go ahead and admit your age.

>"Are you self conscious about your fur?" Kakki asks. "It's a nice coat."
Looks like she read your empathy and knows about the fur dye.

Go ahead and let her think that you're self conscious. Ask if the dye will be a problem.
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No. 851153 ID: 3abd97

>>"Are you self conscious about your fur?" Kakki asks. "It's a nice coat."
She must have picked up on your emphatic reaction when they mentioned testing your fur.

I say allow the tests. The dye is to reduce the risk of you being recognized by enemy agents on the street, or from camera surveillance. It's not meant to hold up under a detailed medical examination.

Tell her no, you're not, and thank you. It's dyed, though.

>Admit that you're over 200
He's not, though. Likol's only 197 right now. Although he will be over 200 by the time he appears in the AsteroidQuest Intermission.
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No. 851159 ID: 33d4be

>>851145

I think we want to be a little more vague with that, at least for now. He'll be able to empathize uncertainty, since he is honestly uncertain about a lot. Like, for all he knows someone took initiative to do this to him without Vanski being directly involved. Maybe even his own hive did it to him somehow, for some weird reason.

He can give a simple, closemouthed story that during the uplift days, he and his hive got involved with some unscrupulous people, which is a common enough story. He can say that he thinks some people connected to those people were interested in mental manipulation of neumono, and that at some point, he can't be sure when, he thinks he was messed with. And that these recent symptoms appeared when he and his hive tried moving away from those people in a bigger way than they had before, which he thinks might have triggered something that was dormant before. That's all true, and it won't make it seem so much like Likol himself specifically is being targeted, which is what would worry him the most. Likol will just be a representative of his hive. Which honestly he is, since there's strong indications the rest of his hive would have these problems or problems like them as well.

Plus it'd be helpful to get his ideas of what's wrong from simple observation of the current facts, without predisposing him with theories. For all we know, Likol never got manipulated and this really IS all the results of age, and/or mental and emotional trauma, which he's had a lot of.
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No. 851165 ID: 3ce125

>>851118
Tell them you're hiding your identity by dying your fur, and as far as you know you're almost 200 years old but you don't normally look that old at all. Also that you suspect your empathic condition was artificially induced. You will give them all the information they need to cure it, because you believe the other empathy signature is trying to take over your body. However, they are probably better off not knowing who it was that did this to you, or why.
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No. 851291 ID: bfb318
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851291

"I'm not conscious about it. Tell me about the fur test."
>"If the fur lacks in size, density, or falls out easily, it could be a sign of age."
"... okay. I'm nearly 200, but I've been physically active, and my regeneration is fine."
>"Yes, but the signs of aging can be detected long before aging is apparent."
"Hrm... as long as the fur is disposed of as well, then... I've dyed my fur."

Aside from Kakki thinking something like 'I knew it!', there's not much response.

>That's fine. We can snip off the fur first, then wash that, so you need not clean the dye off yourself.
"Alright. Also, what happens if my empathy was directly tampered with?"
>"From drugs, or a predator?"
"Anything."
>"Then it's another bag of factors. I will want to run a scan, regardless, so if you're fine with what we've discussed, we can start."
"Okay."
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No. 851294 ID: bfb318
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851294

I'm put into the scanning machine. I leave my back just in front of the machine. The front remains open, and the back just appears to be for structural purposes.

>"You don't need a rigid pose," the doctor explains as the assistants turn the machine on, and the machine's inner walls light up, "but try to remain still. We can put a bar up if you can't stand still for too long."
"I can manage that."
>"Okay. You can open and close your eyes, but I may ask you to close them. If your tail contains any brain matter, you may need to keep that still, too, but I'll let you know. Now, just relax. If you're well practiced in meditation, you may do that, but otherwise, just act as normal as you can manage."

I wait for a moment. During the process, he shows me some pictures of various scenes, more or less mundane, an effect I gather is simply to get my brain active and to respond to some material.

>"The scan is still working, so keep doing as well as you are so we can get a full report. Otherwise, the general idea is clear. I can tell already that you do have a significant amount of brain matter, with lots of redundancy. Your second personality is already sophisticated enough to have its own empathy. Do you recognize its own thoughts?"
"I can. It doesn't think as clearly as I do, but I can recognize what it wants, and even if it isn't as cognizant as a normal person, I think it might want to take over me."
>"Has it been able to, so far?"
"No."
>"There are two primary options. Natural and unnatural. Most of my patients have shown success by reinforcing who they are as individuals, by surrounding themselves with items that belonged to them and people who know them as they are, and by avoiding new experiences and doing the things the second empathy wants. The second option is drugs. Brain suppressants exist, and while it may make a normal neumono dumb, or even be dangerous, you have so much brain matter that you should be fine. Your redundancy will be sacrificed first, and that will leave your secondary empathy less room to exist. It could affect you, as well, but if what you describe is accurate, you'll easily win in a test of endurance against the drug. The third option some choose is to simply leave it alone. There are cases where it will go away on its own, and cases where they end up sharing their body with 1 or more 'other' people. The neumono that choose the third option did not dislike their potential body partners, and in no case did the original ever truly get fully replaced by their alternate personalities."

I notice that my double empathy did not approve of the drugs. I feel that it would normally be much more alarmed at me entertaining that as a possibility, but it isn't capable, yet, of having that amount of alarm. The doctor, too, is focused heavily on his monitor as he's talked over the options with me.
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No. 851297 ID: a363ac

>>851294
give me some drugs just in case but lets see how it reacts for now.
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No. 851303 ID: 91ee5f

>>851294
Ask if it's normal for you to be able to see and talk to these second empathys? If the doctor questions you further about that, then explain what happened during those moments you were able to see and hear your other empathy.
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No. 851304 ID: 33d4be

The only problem I can see with just trying to get rid of the second personality is that it might know or remember things that you don't. It'd be nice to somehow reintegrate it instead of making it wither away.
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No. 851305 ID: 0614f0

The first option is unavailable to you since you're "deployed" far from your hive, so you'll have to give the drugs a try if you want this guy gone.
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No. 851306 ID: 33d4be

You should tell him about your other symptoms, by the way.
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No. 851307 ID: 0d45a9

Well, the second personality is supposed to be a variant of you, since didn't it say it was what you were supposed to be? You might want to tell the doc that's what it told you.

Either way that might make the first option more difficult since you might reinforce it as well as yourself, and while your hive will be able to tell the difference you can't exactly go back to them at the moment. (If you need to say anything, maybe say you're on a long trip?)

New experiences are going to be unavoidable (You've been in a cave for years), and IDK what the other you wants. So it seems drugs might be the only effective option?

One slight curiosity, I wonder if looking at a emotionally significant object (i.e. the Quokko plush) would produce any interesting readings on the scan?
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No. 851317 ID: 3abd97

>by surrounding themselves with items that belonged to them and people who know them as they are, and by avoiding new experiences and doing the things the second empathy wants
Problematic, since you can't exactly hang out with your hive, and so much on this trip is a new experience. (Also, if you're the result of long term emphatic tampering, and the alternate is sort of your base-self, those kind of reinforcements might help it, and not you).

>drugs
We might want to have them on hand as an option, and decide later if and when we want to take them.

>the Quokko plushie
Yeah, that's pretty much his only connection to his hive. Well, that, and the reconstruction photos, but we probably don't want to share those.

>you'll easily win in a test of endurance against the drug
Sounds like the drugs force something like the brain dart battle by cutting down on available space. But it's not happening now because both personalities have the same regen, and the body is building separate brain-networks for both.
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No. 851378 ID: e6994f

Have some drugs on hand, lets see what they're doing now.
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No. 851390 ID: 3ce125

>>851294
Drugs please.
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No. 851432 ID: a633c6

Should you mention you visually hallucinated this alter ego thing?
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No. 851474 ID: 6451d8

It doesn't seem to be trying to do any harm on its own, and maybe this explanation for its existence will help reduce some of the issues you've been having if they're directly related. Plus, since most of these cases end up with the body partners getting along, then we could gain an ally of sorts, so I'd push for option 3 (though I see how having drugs on hand as a Plan B would be a good idea).
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No. 851522 ID: de6d84

Drugs are fine, the other options can be done beforehand, may as well have everything possible on hand to help.
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No. 851528 ID: c88e6d

>>851294
Explain that you are in danger and both are not good options at this time, but the drugs would be the better of the two. Is there any way to physically separate the alternate personality?
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No. 851539 ID: 33d4be

You should ask what you could expect if this went untreated or got worse.
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No. 851542 ID: bfb318
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851542

"It told me that it was what I was supposed to be."
>"Unless it's at a phase in which its fully aware of itself and its surroundings, I wouldn't put any more weight on what it tells you over the ramblings of a non-lucid dream."
"Hm... oh, would the scan get anything interesting if I looked at an object of personal importance?"
>"It would change the readings, but the underlying issues wouldn't change. With that said, if you'd like to include that in the scan, be my guest."
"I would."

He makes a break point in the scan, where I fetch the Quokko doll, where it's held up for me as I scan it. I also tell him many of my other symptoms, including the hallucination. During the entire scan, too, he asks me if I am thinking of anything specific. I tell him I am trying to get my goggles.

>"Interesting results overall, but I only stand, and still stand, by what I've said so far. Still, this does help show the scattered parts of your brain."
"Scattered?"
>"Your brain is a mess, no news there. It looks like you've been pulled in many directions. Have you been having identity issues, or been under turbulent times."
"Yes. To both."
>"Fornslo?" he asks to the red neumono. "Have we gotten results from the fur sample?"
"Yes. No signs of aging at all. He's got a lot of mixed heritage for a precontact neumono."
>"Then, Fisher, your brain, as scattered as it is, should still be able to heal. I don't know what your current situation is, but I would suggest you stabilize your lifestyle, unless you want a party in there. If you have no place to go back to, I'd suggest making a place to go back to - that is, find a stable home, and try to keep things as calm as possible."
"Right. Then, I'm not sure if I want to take them yet, but I'll want drugs."
>"Hm. Alright. Keep in mind that if the other empathy keeps growing, the drugs will require a higher dose, and with that comes more side effects and danger. If it gets to a point where the other empathy can take your body even just a bit, it may be too late. Will you be available for any follow up appointments? If not, I'll need some way to contact you to give you a full report, results, and my impressions of the scan. The drugs will be 3,000 zeny for a full dose, but if you want to wait, the additional dosage required will cost 6,000 zeny."
"Is there any way to physically separate the other empathy?"
>"Oh, actually, yes. I wasn't going to mention it, simply because it isn't viable. However, I'm near certain that your other empathy is located in your arms. If you amputate that, the empathy will go away. The reason I don't recommend this is because if you do that, the shock to your system will likely just make you more likely to develop complications later. It isn't like trimming a tree."
"There is no technology to surgically isolate just the empathy and remove it?"
>"No. Not even close."

Okei has woken up by this point, and is going to come inside.
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No. 851543 ID: 86eb65

Give them a safe email that Alison had set up for you earlier.

Ask how much of your arms you would have to chew off if things went bad.

So get the drugs for emergencies. Then we will try to meditate and fix stuff. But will have drugs for later just in case.
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No. 851544 ID: 3ce125

>>851542
>no signs of aging, genetics improbable for a precontact neumono
Shit, it's starting to look like you're not even a clone, you're a personality and a set of memories that were forced into a test subject.

Also hang on, if you keep putting your goggles back on without realizing it, doesn't that imply the other empathy is doing it? Maybe it's too late for drugs after all... but that was happening BEFORE you gained double empathy, so that doesn't make sense. Maybe this was a two-pronged attack. First, some sort of drug treatment to encourage the development of the second empathy, which of course was injected into your arms. Second, predator conditioning to make you wear your goggles all the time so they can track you via eyewitness accounts. ...wait that doesn't make a lot of sense, they'd have to be anticipating your escape to put that conditioning in. Could it be that you gained that unconscious "habit" by your hive telling you to keep them close, while you were still in a highly suggestible state due to being captured? Or maybe you weren't suggestible but knew you'd forget everything, so you tried to focus on just one thing to remember? They gave you Alison, who has proven to be incredibly useful and trustworthy so far.

Maybe we should start considering the goggles thing to be originated from your allies instead, and the double empathy is still weak enough for drugs to work. We should keep in mind the amputation option just in case... Like, if the empathy manages to control your body at any time, immediately get one of your arms cut off. Then restrain/kill the arm since it's likely to be fully taken over after being cut off.

Anyway, tell the doctor thanks for his time, you'll buy the drugs and leave him contact information (which is actually a kind of internet dead drop which an Alison will stop by to pick up later)
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No. 851547 ID: 33d4be

Tell them about your little assistant. If you have enough money for the drugs, get them.

Before Okei comes in (you might want to ask one of the assistants to stall her for you), you should give the doctor a vague description of your suspicions as to what's causing this. Your hive was got mixed up with some... beyond the law types, they had ties to people who wanted to experiment with neumono mind control, probably by various means but maybe including predators or experimental artificial methods. Say you suspect your hive might have been made targets of by those people, as your hive's relations gruadually broke down, culminating in a recent strong break. Tell him about having very clear dreams of discussing this possibility with your Queen, which may be resurfacing memories, and the "back up" trigger phrase. He might have some useful comment to make, and who knows, it might help someone else down the line some day.

He should understand (and probably approve of, as it's less risk to him) you being very vague and not giving any details, and his assistants will probably ignore any feelings of you omitting information or saying misleading things, as they're expecting you to be cagey and anxious. You don't need to give away any specifics, and you can make it sound like your hive was just one that fell prey to being taken advantage of during contact and only wants to not let their connections be known.
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No. 851584 ID: 0d45a9

I wonder if the doc would be able to make sense of the hive reconstruction files? Risks: Doctor tries to connect the laptops to something, and/or causes him to search for terms that gets OPA's attention. Either the doctor or his assistants are compromised. Probing / awkward questions.

Also giving the doctor more confidential information might be useful (Dreams, flashbacks, predator involvement) in finding out what the heck is wrong with Likol, but that has the same risks (Depending on how specific / vague we are). Telling / showing them anything is a risk, and it's hard to gauge how tangible that risk is, but it could be useful and I am just damn curious.

I think Okei is fine to come in, but there's a risk she might refer to you as Likol, not Fisher.
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No. 851587 ID: 3abd97

>Okei has woken up by this point, and is going to come inside.
I sort of want to see what she says to the doctors and how they respond. So long as she catches on to the fake name it should be fine.

>"However, I'm near certain that your other empathy is located in your arms"
Maybe that explains why he's more willing to play the guitar than speak.

Amputating your arms is right out. You don't exactly have a safe place to hold up for weeks to regrow those. Or someone to be your nursemaid.

>If not, I'll need some way to contact you to give you a full report, results, and my impressions of the scan. The drugs will be 3,000 zeny for a full dose, but if you want to wait, the additional dosage required will cost 6,000 zeny.
A dummy email through Alison should work. And yes, pay for the drugs.
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No. 851637 ID: 1e7aa8

Uh. hm. Okei's not armed, is she? This might end badly no matter what.
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No. 851641 ID: de6d84

Let Okei do... something.
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No. 851694 ID: 33d4be

Maybe you could empathically ask Okei to wait a moment longer?
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No. 851769 ID: 767ff9

>>851542
What if your not Likol.
1.You have a lot of mixed heritage for a pre-contact neumono,
2. You show no signs of ageing.
3. Part of your brain is telling you that you should be some one else.

What if you are some random guitar playing neumono that got a Likol brain dart. That would make you a mental an near physical clone of Likol.

It dosen't change your goals if its true. Who you are now is all you have to go on. Maybe the real Likol is trapped or dead and was desperate enough to do this to some rouge drifter. We don't know.

Any way it would explain a lot of your symptoms.
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No. 851807 ID: c88e6d

Oh my god, it explains everything. YOU ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL LIKOL! You're a chimeric mutant clone!
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No. 851813 ID: bfb318
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851813

>You're not Likol
That -

Isn't impossible. But I may as well be Likol, at this point.

>Brain dart
That idea still only exists as a biologist's fever dream.

"I have an e-mail. But hold on, what do you mean by me not 'aging'?"
>"The correct term is deterioration. So many neumono use the term aging instead of that, that I ended up using the colloquial term instead. Oh, but we will be able to detect an approximation of how old you are. That will be in the final report." If that test is reliable, and I'm well outside of 197, then that will be a concern about my identity, but no use worrying about it now.
"Okay. How much of my arms would have to be amputated?"
>"Almost up to the shoulder. And if you do that, it would have to be soon. If the second empathy continues to grow, it will grow in past your arms, and that won't be an option any longer."
"Okay. I would still like to buy the drugs."

I give him another 6,000 zeny for the full amount. He also gives his email in case I want to get into contact with him.

"Thanks for your time. That's my... little assistant." I say, in regards to Okei. "Oh, er, outside, she just woke up." I just remembered the doctor is a Miklik, and couldn't catch her presence. Kakki leaves to greet Okei.
>"Hey! I'm hungry." I hear Okei say.
>"Here, I have some candy bars, on the house."
>"Aw ye - wait these are health bars?!"
>"They're candy to your health."
>"Lame!" Okei says before chomping down on them greedily anyway. The doctor approaches me again.

>"Here are your drugs. Lythinx, the brand name, the active ingredients are on the bottle, and the directions elsewhere in the bag. I'll send the directions in the email, too, as backup. Proper dose is important, but you can usually tell by your ability to think about whether you're taking too much or too little. A second opinion helps, so ask your little assistant for help if you do take these."

I would call it the end, here, but I do have more information to give, if I want to. Possible predator activity, flashbacks, and the image contents on the laptop. This is all dangerous stuff to leak, but if there was any stranger to leak it to, the miklik doctor is probably the best option.
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No. 851819 ID: 86eb65

Ask if you can talk to him alone. Out of empathy range that is. Also check with Alison that the radar is clear.

If he is ok chatting with no other neumono around and Alison gives the green light for any bugs/recording then mentioning the more sensitive stuff is a option.

In for a penny in for a pound. Regardless of the risk this might be your best chance to learn more about what is going on.
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No. 851820 ID: 3ce125

>>851813
Well if you talk about that stuff now Okei will hear it. You may need her to leave the room before you say anything.

Also I don't think the predator stuff or the laptop images are relevant, unless you want your brain scanned while you look at the images. Even if the doctor recognizes what the images are, like images from a brain scan while someone is dreaming maybe, it's not going to help you any since you already brought up the issue of your condition being artificially induced.

You could talk about the flashbacks I guess, see if they're relevant to your condition. Maybe he'll have advice as to what to do in them.
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No. 851825 ID: 33d4be

I wouldn't involve the laptop, but the possibility of predator control (present it to him as a theory only, suggest drugs or direct surgical procedures as well) and the flashbacks. Describe the flashbacks in vague terms, like you're more suspecting things that you're really certain of, if you can convince him to talk out of empathy range. If you can't get him out of empathy range then just talk to him about the possibility of criminal experimentation on your hive due to unwise contacts your hive made.
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No. 851842 ID: 20a6e7

>possible predator activity
Just mention that if someone comes to ask about you and turns hostile, chances are they'll come back with a predator in tow. They better have jammers on hand, in places that can't be easily sniped.
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No. 851852 ID: c88e6d

>>851842
The doctor is a Miklik. If they come back with a Predator in tow that's almost literally begging him to shoot it in the face and be celebrated as a hero by all the Neumono in the region.
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No. 851854 ID: 33d4be

We can't fully trust the doctor yet, there is the possibility that he has some connection to people doing neumono mental experiments too, given his interest in neumono brain problems. Hence why I think we should be vague about it, though I do think we should ask if we can do so in a careful enough way.

However, if we leave here and no problems show up soon after? No sudden pursuers or people knowing where we are and how we're disguised all of a sudden? Then we might be able to judge, later, that he's trustworthy. So maybe we should circumspectly ask him if a physical letter or package sent to this hive, addressed to him, would arrive securely. He's probably not in the business of doing anything that could make him enemies, but he could, say, mail an envelope that was inside another envelope, right?
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No. 851855 ID: 91ee5f

>>851852
If they come with a predator in tow, then he'll be restrained by the neumono that are supposed to protect him, meaning he won't be able to shoot the predator.
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No. 851858 ID: 0d45a9

If we give the doc anything and we're vague about whatever context we give, then that might make us look suspicious, but going into detail might put us and them at risk. We cannot mention the CAI for obvious reasons.

The laptops I'm very curious about, but even if the doc can figure out what the images might be I don't see the being directly applicable to our situation, at most it might be guessing of what might've happened and how it might be linked to your condition. The experimental nature of whatever the Salikai did to your hive might put it outside the doc's knowledge.

The predator stuff, flashbacks, and dreams seem like a kinda package deal since they might all be connected. You might have to go into some detail with the context so it sounds feasible, since a vast criminal network run by Salikai who have access to trained predators is pretty unbelievable. (Having the doc's assistants be within empathy range might be handy if our empathy feels genuine / like you're telling the truth) I'm not too sure what the doc might make out of it, aside from commenting on our suspicions and suggesting how it might progress, which is handy in and of itself.

In the interests of curiosity, I'm for showing the doc the laptops and giving him more info. As for context, a slight framing of the truth seems right, your hive through it was a legit mutually beneficial arrangement and by the time it wasn't your hive couldn't back out even if they wanted to, try to avoid specifics (Names, dates, places, etc).

>>851842
Trained predators are too valuable to risk in the field, remember the farm predator was kept in a bunker with the neumono brought to them, and that 4 strips used empathy relays. If we put them on OPA's radar by giving them info, it'll be more likely they'll suffer a "accident", a severe case of being shot, or a disappearance.
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No. 851869 ID: 2d1231

>>851813

Okay, okay, crazy thought ...

... brain-darts don't work, but regeneration from larger fragments can, and you have TONS of "extra" brain matter in an already distributed system. How possible would it be that you were a relative or close hivemate who had his arms swapped with those of Likol as an experiment?

If the brain-matter remained isolated but accessible, this could explain the developing empathy as the limbs continue to integrate with your body, and the possibility of shared or muddled memories.

At least, the idea would be that a more complete sample, which could potentially be kept alive long enough to survive a transplant, would be more viable and likely than a "brain dart," especially since the usage would be heavily controlled via surgery.

---

Other options, I suppose, are the same partitioning you described. But that doesn't explain the laptop, the doll, and the missing time.

Actually, yeah. Tell the doctor about the laptop and the gap in your memory, but without leaking precisely what or when, only that there's a period of time (around 7 days) that you simply don't recall.
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No. 851950 ID: 3d2d5f

>>851813
Bring up the flashbacks, they're probably related.

Absolutely do not show him the laptops.

Predators we already brought up once, and I don't think we should take it past hypothetical.

>ask to be alone with him
Let's not ask to deprive him of his security (especially when he knows we're hiding things, and that we have multiple personalities) or his eyes on empathy.
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No. 851955 ID: 91ee5f

Tell the doctor that you've got a significant gap in your memory. Then ask if it's possible that someone else's arms have been attached to your body while you were unconscious? Because you think you might literally have someone else's memories.
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No. 851982 ID: 1e7aa8

...Ask the doctor if he happens to know someone who below the board that specializes in neumono surgery/recovery/rehabilitation.
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No. 852001 ID: de6d84

>>851950
Agreeing with this course of tells.
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No. 852017 ID: c9f5a7

Talk about all the flashbacks, leave youre laptop out of this.
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No. 852059 ID: bfb318
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852059

>What if your arms used to belong to someone else?
It would need more than that. People's individual limbs are hardly coherent, and the consciousness of a neumono's arm is quick to fade away. To maintain a personality within arms is virtually unheard of.

I decide not to tell the doctor about the laptop, but I do tell him I've been having vivid flashbacks, and a lapse in time. He asks for some details in the lapse in time, but unfortunately, I can't say much.

"I can't guarantee your flashbacks are related to the second empathy, but there's a strong chance they are, and that these flashbacks are your brain attempting to sort out, and reinforce who you are. I would welcome them. As for your having no recollection of several days, well, I think that's less likely to be associated. If it was your alternate self to take over, it's unlikely you'd completely lose your conscious. You'd be able to remember something, even if it felt like it was through someone else's eyes. I'll attempt to find out what could have caused that when looking over the scan. Is there anything else you'd like to say?"
>"No."
>"Fisher?" asks one of the assistants.
>"There isn't that's relevant to this."

They know that may not be true, but they don't push any information out of me. Not even when it's clear that Okei has no idea who Fisher is, nor how she mentally glares at me when I think one of the assistants mentions that the booth guard told the doctor that she was my service animal. My hiding information is so obvious that even the miklik can pick up on our visual cues.

>"Alright, Mr. Fisher, if you think of anything you'd like to share, you have my contact information."
>"We'll dispose of your fur and blood." says Kakki, who is honest.
>"Okay. Thank you."
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No. 852060 ID: bfb318
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852060

It's just past 7 PM. I notice I've put my goggles back on.

I walk back out of the building, and hurriedly get back into the car and out of the rain. Okei is quick to follow me, as she dislikes being wet as much as I do. Alison is in the corner of my vision, looking at me oddly. Okei wonders at me, too. I don't sense much judgement from anyone, and I think they simply have the same question as I do.

What, now?
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No. 852063 ID: 86eb65

Ask Okei if she knows a good private place to spend the night.

Ask Alison how much money you have so you know how to budget stuff.

Then you need to decide how much to involve Okei in any of this. On one hand keeping her in the dark keeps her safe. On the other hand you need a trustworthy person to help keep you grounded during this brain mess.

Giving her a very vague version of your story might help. You worked for a guy and he slowly went evil. Your hive is at risk. And you might have gotten brain fucked a bit.
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No. 852064 ID: 13fded

I guess we can't afford to walk around with an abnormal empathy. That can attract too much undesirable attention.
Take the medicine at the minimal dose recommended. For now it's worth suppressing this personality but we can't get too dumb. Maybe the second personality won't be destroyed and we can deal with it in a more natural way later.
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No. 852065 ID: 33d4be

Well, it was a long drive, right? You might start looking for your next place to sleep safely. You might not do so soon, but it's a good idea to know in advance and to have the time to make doubly sure it's secure, and plan around that, and if you find a place you also have the option of just sitting there and doing something useful (like look more in-depth at Alison's troubles) while you wait for the doctor's report. You could probably do with some food, too.
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No. 852068 ID: 1e7aa8

wait on taking the recommended dose. We have a limited idea on what the heck is going to happen when we start taking it and it'd be best if we were back at Okei's rundown shelter with her hive before messing with stuff.

But that... Order some food for the two of you.
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No. 852070 ID: 2d1231

>>852060

Ask Alison what's on her mind.
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No. 852071 ID: 3ce125

Take some drugs immediately to see how they affect you. Okei and Alison can monitor you. Go with the recommended dose initially. Later on you can lower the dose when you know you're going to need more of your wits about you.
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No. 852073 ID: 0d45a9

Well, I suppose you owe Okei somewhat of a explanation, given your mental issues, bloody laptops, use of fur dye, and now use of a fake name you probably look a bit suspicious. She's probably safe to trust anyway since she's travelling with you, so give her the abridged version of what's been happening. Don't mention the CAI though.
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No. 852074 ID: 33d4be

It's not safe for Okei to know the full story. If you get caught, you can be made to talk. Do you want to be made to tell them she knows nothing, and that she isn't worth their time or the risk of someone noticing whatever they'd do to her? Or to be made to tell them she knows enough that they need to take that risk?

If you can make sure Okei will be safe for the foreseeable future - if you get her adopted by a police hive, or leave her in a very public and crowded place in a big city with instructions to run to the cops and tell them everything if you don't get back to her in 12 hours, or find a way to erase all your memories of her, or something else of no less than those levels of safety - THEN you tell her.
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No. 852083 ID: 56e50f

>>852060
Well buddy, how are you feeling?
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No. 852084 ID: 33d4be

Oh, since you have no more reason to hang around in person, you should probably get faaaaaar away from here and confuse your trail quick, just in case it does somehow turn out that this doctor's visit brings down the heat, before you do anything else.
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No. 852093 ID: 91ee5f

You've still gotta go find Arza, but do you want to bring Okei with you? Because if you take her much farther, then she might not be able to find her way back to her home!

I mean, sure, it would be better to find her a place where she'll get an education, but still, you can't force her to live somewhere else if she doesn't want to!

So you've either gotta find a place for her to live and convince her to stay there or you've gotta let her go back to her home where you found her.
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No. 852101 ID: d36af7

Thought of an idea for concealing the double empathy, though it's pretty weird. Buy a realistic-looking life-sized poseable doll (probably marketed as a sex toy for aliens) carry it around weekend-at-Bernie's style, claiming it's a drunk (or sickly or otherwise incapacitated) hivemate who you're helping out. If tech supports such a thing as telepresence robots, an Alison instance could pilot it to complete the illusion.
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No. 852294 ID: 15a025

It might be time to start thinking about leaving town. Ask Okei or Alison if they know anything about nearby towns we can trail off to?
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No. 852298 ID: 33d4be

>>852294

Maybe drive to a town with several other towns along the way, and jump out of the car in one of those while it continues on? Alison may need to mess with the car so it doesn't show signs of stopping on its records.
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No. 852329 ID: de6d84

Ask Alison if there's any good place to possibly sleep for later.
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No. 852478 ID: c9f5a7

>>852084
This is good.
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No. 852495 ID: de6d84

>>852329
Adding onto this, ask how Okei is doing also.
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No. 852949 ID: 7a524b
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852949

"What's on your mind, Alison?" I ask without caring that Okei can hear me talk directly to Alison.
>"I'm weighing everyone's best options, and thinking of how to get us to Arza. How are you doing, Likol?"
"I'm getting tired of running from people I can't see, and tired of not seeing my hive, but I also don't want to do anything stupid just because I'm tired."
>"Should we get Okei back home?"
"Hm... Okei. Do you want to go back to your shelter?"
>"Nope."
"Really?"
>"Those guys are sorta jerks! You're just a big nerd, even if you're kind of crazy and might try to murder me in my sleep."
"Neither of us thinks I'll try that. I guess you should know. I used to work with someone who's gotten in too deep with too many bad people, and my hive had to suffer for it. That's all I should say."
>"Uh okay."

I start stuffing some supplies under a blanket in the backseat. If I go through any drive throughs, or people just peer into my car, they may think that my second empathy is just a neumono lying under the blankets. Hopefully I won't have to do anything ridiculous like carry around a neumono shaped sack and try to pass it off as a drunk hivemate.

"Alison. Please drive somewhere. We should get some food, I don't care where we get food or where we go after that, as long as it's away. Maybe drop us off and keep the car moving, just to throw the trail off."
>"That's a good plan." says Alison. "You know, it doesn't even have to be a populated town. There's plenty of abandoned ruins, and if I can get a personal drone, I can deliver supplies to you just about anywhere. Then I can slowly get in touch with Arza, and arrange a meeting. Between now and then, you could consider this a vacation from everything. Okei can learn from you. You could even introduce us."
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No. 852957 ID: 33d4be

That sounds nice. But you're the sort of person who'd go a bit crazy if he was in a perilous situation and wasn't doing anything to help.

Look, Okei isn't going to be able to take being tutored all day every day anyway, so at the very least you should monitor this missing Alisons problem. Maybe order a cheap laptop and get some proper monitoring programs and another copy of Alison to live on it, and oversee/coordinate what you can of the Alisons' efforts from there? You can spend some more time examining her code and narrowing down your questions about her, learn more about how she works, and feel more secure that if something happened to her you'd be able to do something. You could open up a version of her with one of the alternate personalities to see what they're like, too. Maybe you can even start drawing up ideas for how to approach the whole CAI/forbidden laptops question.

Having Alison on a laptop will also make her easier to introduce to Okei, and easier for Okei to interact with her. Alison can subtly take over some tutelage duties, and maybe one day if you have to send Okei away she can take the laptop with her and have her own Alison friend to help look after her.

You should remind Alison to be careful with the drones, I'm sure there must be systems set up to spot and track strange drone movements.
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No. 852966 ID: 91ee5f

>>852949
>Okei wants to stay
"I'm surprised you'd want to stay with a boring nerd like me."

>You know, it doesn't even have to be a populated town. There's plenty of abandoned ruins, and if I can get a personal drone, I can deliver supplies to you just about anywhere.
We can switch between populated and abandoned areas.

Populated areas for being able to have access to a shower, a toilet, and a bed. Abandoned areas for when Okei wants to find something to climb and sleep at the top of again.

>You could even introduce us.
Likol, if you're just gonna start talking to Alison and not care that Okei is listening, then you might as well introduce them to each other so that Okei knows you're talking to someone and not your second empathy.
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No. 852986 ID: 1e7aa8

Yeah, tell Okei that you are an AI nerd and you've got one in your goggles. Then introduce the two.
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No. 852987 ID: 3abd97

>You could even introduce us
Introduce your digital assistant to your therapy animal.

Also probably ask Okei not to tell anyone about your AI, she's a secret and probably illegal since you don't have any licenses.

>You should remind Alison to be careful with the drones, I'm sure there must be systems set up to spot and track strange drone movements.
A good point.
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No. 852988 ID: 91ee5f

>>852966
We could also introduce Okei to pizza, if she's never heard of it or tasted it! Why pizza? I don't know. This just seems like a moment where pizza would be one of the food options to choose from.
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No. 852990 ID: 33d4be

... Say, Likol, I know you're a computer scientist for the most part, specializing in AIs, but you're a member of a science hive. Could you tell us what other fields you'd say your good in, or even just competent in? It'd be handy to know.

More specifically, in addition to a general list of your expertise being handy, I wonder if you have any training in psychology yourself, since I assume an AI scientist wants to know how intelligent brains work. Have you ever heard anything about attempts to train neumono to conceal their empathy, or just to gain better ability to not think about certain things consciously, or to make oneself think of something else without seeming to be trying to do so?

If there's any possibility of you and/or Okei increasing your ability to not give things away or attract attention empathically, you should practice it with each other. Okei is younger, so she might be able to learn something like that faster. It'd be something to pass the time, too, basically the old "try not to think of a pink rhinoceros" game. It'd even help Okei learn to read your empathy better, which would make her better able to monitor your condition.
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No. 852995 ID: 38f35c

After you go get some food, maybe make a stop at an arcade to waste some time and calm yourselves down. Oh and also introduce the two people who have stuck with you despite the fact you are crazy and being hunted.
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No. 853009 ID: c9f5a7

Introduce Alison and co. to Okei.
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No. 853018 ID: de6d84

>>852987
This sounds good.
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No. 853029 ID: 86eb65

Hiding out from the world sounds tempting but risky.

Its a great idea because wandering around with double empathy is going to get you noticed fast. And relaxing might help the issue.

But people will notice a drone ferrying supplies out into the ruins sooner or later. And staying in one spot could be dangerous. So if we are doing this need to do it right. Have supplies dropped off a mile or more away from the actual camp. Plot out escape routes and emergency stuff once we get there. That sort of thing.

Oh and for paranoia's sake check Alison's finances. Make sure the money she is bringing in is on the up and up. While we trust her she is not the full Alison so might miss something in her system that you would notice. Traceable income sources and such.

Oh and make sure wandering off with Okei is not going to get you followed by her roommates. She might think they do not care but a stranger wandering off with a little girl might make them grow a conscience.
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No. 853599 ID: 15a025

The abandoned ruins sound interesting. Ask Alison if there's any history behind them?
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No. 854073 ID: 33d4be

Wherever you go, make sure you make some good distance from the path the car will take, since it'll paint a line of points you could have gotten off at.

Another idea for when you're resting up: maybe you should have a talk with Alison (and indirectly, once you've introduced them and can speak to one with the other listening, with Okei) about, like... morals? And ethics? Alison might be sentient (or effectively so in tandem with her other selves) and Okei is a kid with a rough upbringing, so you might want to make some attempt to imprint something on them during this formative time.

Start off by just inquiring and trying to figure out what Alison is running on right now in terms of guidelines, then talk about your own experience from tribal to where you are now? As a scientist, I'd assume you subscribe to a mathematical, utilitarian-esque idea of calculating greatest benefit vs. least harm, so maybe talk about that, but you'll need to flesh that out with its complexities, that what counts as benefit or harm is different to different groups/people, the introduction of uncertainty and awareness of one's own ignorance so you need to make bets and think of rules for what's usually best, one's own duties and responsibilities as another factor contending with strict personal morality, et cetera.

You'll need to come up with some examples. I bet you've been thinking of the costs and ramifications of unethical science recently, so maybe some of that. How you can maybe make breakthroughs you couldn't have gotten otherwise but your results will be skewed from the true scientific method by the pressure of threats from your investors, the inability to explore other paths and applications that open up from your research if they don't go along with what your bosses want, and the relative lack of peer review, and the long-term effects of sullying science's reputation in the eyes of everyone who doesn't want to live in a world where they or their loved ones could get experimented on against their will, resulting not only in the same wide-scale economic damage as other crimes but also in a lack of grant money and facilities and in increased bureaucracy stifling the essential long-term-grind part of scientific progress, making it so that eventually the benefits of science become more restricted to private groups and individuals who fund it only for their own gain and not that of wider society, so that ultimately "mad" science is like a poisonous stimulant that grants dubious short-term boosts in exchange for long-term crippling debilitation?

... you know, that sort of thing.

You could also speculate how your former boss started off as a relatively nice guy but devolved into a ruthless paranoid while the rest of the world outside overall got nicer, and theorize on why that was. It'd probably be good for you to straighten some of this stuff out in your head, too.
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No. 854182 ID: 5e9133

>>852987
This sounds fine
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No. 854558 ID: bfb318
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854558

"Let me think on that."

Alison shifts the car's gears to get us out of this place. The hive's driveway operator waves as we leave. I wave back, and plug the CAI's battery into the car to top it off.

It's not far to a food stop. I try out the drive through. It's easy to use. I order a couple pizzas, and a basic package of assorted meats. The workers are diligent, yet still seem to just be waiting until they can go home. I ask for a fork and knife, and get a look of disgust from the workers and a sense of mortification from Okei. I settle on using my own knife and fork from my own supplies.

While we wait, I type at Alison.

"How much money do you have?"
>"Somewhere roughly around 4,000 zeny. Some of us have assets that can be liquidated, and could get another 4 to 8 thousand, depending on the worst or the best realistic deals we can get."
"I'd like to know more about that. Tell me about the money, where it is, where it's coming from, and how traceable it is."

Alison starts covering the details. None of the money gained is illegal, and in a region like this, money isn't well monitored either. Despite that, she's still gone through the trouble of passing the zeny through channels in ways that is similar to laundering the money. Neither of us are naturally gifted in economics, but she's never forgotten that I don't want to have anything pointing at me.

"Thank you for being patient with my paranoia. It more or less helps my concerns."
>"I'm happy to do that, Likol."
"I want to stop at an electronic store and pick up a cheap laptop."
>"Let's do it, then."
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No. 854559 ID: bfb318
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854559

Okei and I eat in the car on the way to the electronic shop. I eat with my utensils like an uplifted member of society all while Okei gets grease and cheese in her fur. I hope she doesn't use the laptop like that. She reads my thoughts, then, and makes a show of gnawing and licking at her fingers to 'clean' them, which ends up only slightly less offensive to me.

Inside the electronic shop, there's a stack of identical laptops in stock. It's the most generic laptop, perhaps, in the whole planet. It isn't fast, but it's durable, has plenty of hard drive space, and has an excellent battery. I purchase it for a mere 1,000 zeny.

>What other scientific fields are you knowledgeable in?
I've absorbed many tidbits in weapons, armor, and rocketry. It's scattered knowledge and I may lack the basics in it, but I can recognize a good amount of machinery like that.

I also studied various forms of engineering, including electrical, but it's been a long time since I've used it.

Come to think of it, much of my knowledge must be rusty by now. I've lived next to the CAI for so long, that I haven't kept up on much else aside from that and basic computer science and programming. Even some of the minor fields that CAI scientists like to know - psychology, neuroscience, and so on - have slowly deteriorated, but it should come back to me. In fact, between studying what makes Alison tick, I should brush up on that and my math.

>Have you ever heard anything about attempts to train neumono to conceal their empathy, or just to gain better ability to not think about certain things consciously, or to make oneself think of something else without seeming to be trying to do so?
Lots of organizations have attempted that, along with miniaturizing jammer tech. Even my own hive has tried their hand in doing so, and we have had progress in making drugs that help the ability to not think about things, but the side effects are significant.
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No. 854560 ID: bfb318
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854560

To control one's thoughts is a good technique in dealing with other neumono, and I want to practice it. Once I get back into the car, I have Alison start setting up the laptop.

"Okei, how good are you at not thinking about a ten foot neumono?"
>"I don't think about ten foot neumono!"
"You are now, right?"
>"... I just lost some kind of weird nerd game didn't I?"
"That was just a practice run. Try to call out ridiculous things, and see how long I can go without thinking about it."

She calls out things like a tree as big as the world, a neumono jumping out a window, and a miklik riding a child's tricycle. I slowly get better at it, but I have to make a conscious effort to just not listen. If she were to blurt out something, say, tomorrow, it may be more difficult.

I also name some things for her. She doesn't do much better, but we both improve at telling when the other messes up.

My goggles buzz that the laptop is ready.
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No. 854561 ID: bfb318
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854561

"Alison, please send a new copy of yourself to the laptop to introduce yourself to Okei with."

I confirm some settings. The new Alison will be a fresh copy, but the current Alison will talk with the new Alison about about what's going on, and who I and Okei are, and why she's going to live on the laptop. Once everything's done, she hops from my goggles to the laptop.

"Alison, meet Okei. Okei, Alison."
>"Hi, Okei!" Alison says, making sure to pronounce it differently than 'okay'.
>"Uh..." Okei seems to think that this is some kind of premade video or recording, and feels too silly to talk to one back. When it's clear Alison isn't moving on with a pre-recorded speech, Okei gives in. "Hi?"
>"Want to play a game?"
>"... I'm listening, weird snake girl."

For a moment, Okei had questions about where she came from, what she is, and honestly much more involved questions that a regular person would be much more concerned about. Instead, as soon as Alison boots up one of the laptop's integrated games, Okei gets more interested in playing. The game isn't much, but Okei has not been introduced to enough technology to develop standards yet. I have a feeling that Alison is using the game to break the ice with Okei so that she'll be more receptive to Alison's incoming tutelage. Only in calm parts of the game does Alison start talking about how she's a new copy of the person that's been talking with me.

I also mention to Okei that Alison may not legally exist. She doesn't understand that concept too well, but she does understand that she shouldn't talk about Alison openly to others.
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No. 854562 ID: bfb318
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854562

I turn back to talking with my Alison, silently.

"About living in the wilderness. I'm okay with it, sometimes, but I'll want to keep moving, and I want the drones to not always go in the same direction."
>"I understand. Part of the reason why I like delivery drones so much is that in unregulated zones like this, it's common for people who live far away to own a drone to do some shopping for them! So my drone will be just one of many."
"I also will want escape routes and safety measures in case someone tracks us out in the wilderness. I may even want the delivery drone to drop things off a mile or so away from where we're staying."
>"Hmm... I'll do my best to help with that. I can get another drone or two that are very small and couldn't get picked up by satellites, and use small cameras on those to get a lay of the landscape for you."
"Alright, thank you. I don't want to be in wilderness for too long anyway. Let's alternate between that and civilized areas."
>"It's true, I think Okei would be better off in a civilized area."
"Yeah. Also, I do like showers."

Plus, there is part of me that would like to see her reaction to a real arcade.
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No. 854563 ID: bfb318
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854563

Okei and I stay in the car overnight and well into the next day. Okei's turned to asking her Alison all kinds of information about technology and guns. I do my own research to the modern world as it is, and occasionally get out to fuel the car and get food. My Alison has looked into setting up our drones.

Eventually, we get into an area that has relatively tamer wildlife compared to other parts of the world. It's here that I've decided that the car will slow down around a sharp bend up ahead, and Okei and I will jump out with all of our things. The car will move onto another town farther away, then be sent back. In preparation, I top off the car tank so that it can make it all the way back.

"Are you sure you want to stay with a boring nerd like me?" I ask Okei. It's come to the point where I'd like her to stay, but the finality of the decision is just settling in.
>"Yeah? The place I was in was crummy! I wanted to leave if I had a better place to go to."
"Then let's pack our things. We're jumping out of the car ahead." I don't bother asking her why she thinks we're going anywhere better.
>"Not stopping?"
"No. Jumping out of a moving car."
>"Oh good you're not too bad of a boring nerd."
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No. 854564 ID: bfb318
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854564

We get back into the car and drive a ways into the mountain, then leap out on the bend. The curve is so sharp that the car only rolls at a few miles per hour, so our 'leap' ends up as just leaving the car at a jog.

I take a quick look to make sure nothing was left inside. The road then straightens out, and the car accelerates out of sight.
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No. 854565 ID: bfb318
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854565

I move anything important off my phone, then break it out of paranoia and fear. The doctor was given an email, and I can use that on any phone.

Alison had already bought a nearby miniature drone to fly around the mountainscape. Near the base of a mountain is an old abandoned town a few miles away. We hurry to it during the few hours that the weather is dry. About halfway there, we find Alison's first package. It's mostly a lot of food rations, guns and ammunition in case the weather gets unexpectedly bad and we get snowed in or something.

The town itself will do. The buildings are mostly intact and sturdy. Those who left did so without hurry, and may have even left with plans to come back. It's unlikely they would come back in the next few days, if ever considering it looks like no one has been in here for many years. Alison doesn't know who used to live here or when exactly it was made. By the time satellite imagery in this area became available to the public, this place was already here. My hallucination is playing the guitar in the center of town, and if anything, it's more faded. The music is barely recognizeable as sound, and is halfway to just being a dreamlike concept of music in my head.

We'll stay here a little while before moving on. I'll want to study Alison's code for anything, either to learn more about what makes her tick, or see if there were any hidden messages inside after all.

This would be a good time to do other, more leisurely things as well. Perhaps talk of morals with Alison, or tutor Okei.
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No. 854566 ID: 87a85e

Tutor Okei. Teach her how to simplify problems into matrix calculations so she doesn't have to spend years learning shitty inefficient overcomplicated methods to solve problems.
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No. 854567 ID: 86eb65

Ok first thing first set up a nice camp. Somewhere comfortable to live for the next week or two.

Then set up a escape plan. Some food and supplies off in the woods very well hidden so you will not be empty handed if you have to flee.

Then go over the lost Alison's with Alison. Try to find out if they got caught or just hid or got zapped by a antivirus doing a normal sweep. 3k in the bank is not horrible but we really want to get that number up to 10k without drawing on reserves.

Once work is done relax. Teach Okei stuff if she is interested and try to deal with your head issue.
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No. 854580 ID: 3abd97

>The new Alison will be a fresh copy, but the current Alison will talk with the new Alison about about what's going on
I mean so long as the various Goggles-Alisons are trading backups / memories regularly they're functionally separate instances of the same person operating in parallel.

>My hallucination is playing the guitar in the center of town, and if anything, it's more faded.
I wonder if that's because you haven't been focusing on stuff that would reinforce it. You've been focusing on relating to Alison and Okei instead of your past or other mysteries since you had your checkup.

>This would be a good time to do other, more leisurely things as well. Perhaps talk of morals with Alison, or tutor Okei.
You really think you have much morality to teach to someone templated off the "generosity anomaly"? Hmm. I suppose you might learn a thing or two from her.

All three of you talking together might be interesting. A moral-philosophical conversation between questionably ethical scientist, generosity anomaly, and scrappy urchin.
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No. 854583 ID: 10c408

You and Okei could probably use a lesson or two or three on gun safety/maintenance so you don't end up shooting each other when the shit hits the fan.
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No. 854585 ID: 56e50f

Aquire bonfire!
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No. 854587 ID: 33d4be

How about talking morality with Alison and Okei? It can double as giving Okei some hints you have bad stuff, and bad people, in your past. Nothing specific, nothing that would make her worth anyone's trouble, but maybe enough that if you ever have to tell her to run away or leave you she might be more likely to listen. Maybe also teach her that people doing bad things to other people can be more subtle and more extensive than violence and theft, which is where her concept of bad stuff probably is right now. Alison probably needs it too, she may be based on the generosity anomaly but generosity isn't always the most moral thing. If she really is non-sentient, or reduced sentience, her concepts of morality may also lack nuance and need fine-tuning for complexity - like, you could give her the classic trolley problem, do you sacrifice one person's life for three people's, then introduce the more subtle variants like what if it's torturing one person so three people will be happier, what if the three people are forcing the one person for their own benefit, what if the decision repeats every day, et cetera. Or the two of you might just find things that you disagree on, which would be good to spot, sort out and debate a bit before they come up in some more immediate sense.

Okei needs tutoring but I suspect laptop Alison has already started taking care of that. Say, aside from teaching her to read and some technical skills, why not give her some exercise routines and basic martial arts foundational training? She seems like a physical-oriented person, she'll need some variety in what she's learning while you're busy on Alison, and it'll be good for her to be in good shape. Download some videos as well as Alison coming up with stuff. Learning that kind of thing off videos and not an actual instructor isn't the best, but it's better than nothing. You should join in as well, too, just to be sure you're keeping in shape. Never know when you'll need some endurance and agility.
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No. 854592 ID: 91ee5f

>>854558
>I ask for a fork and knife, and get a look of disgust from the workers and a sense of mortification from Okei. I settle on using my own knife and fork from my own supplies.
You eat pizza with a fork and a knife?! What is wrong with you?! Even uplifted and civilized neumono know that pizza is meant to be eaten with your hands!

>>854559
>I eat with my utensils like an uplifted member of society all while Okei gets grease and cheese in her fur.
Only one of you is eating that pizza correctly and unfortunately, it's not you Likol!

>I hope she doesn't use the laptop like that. She reads my thoughts, then, and makes a show of gnawing and licking at her fingers to 'clean' them, which ends up only slightly less offensive to me.
Sticky keys are no joke! They're a computer gamers worst nightmare! One minute your doing great, the next thing you know, you can't stop walking off a cliff because your movement buttons are stuck!

>Lots of organizations have attempted that
Do you know of any successful occurrences of hives managing to pull off training neumono to hide their empathy?

>>854565
>This would be a good time to do other, more leisurely things as well. Perhaps talk of morals with Alison, or tutor Okei.
Come on, don't shove the tutoring down her throat all the time like that! At least take a break every once and a while.

Or if you are going to teach her something, then maybe teach her how to properly hold a gun or help her improve her aim. Or even teach her how to track animals for hunting or how to effectively hide her empathy to avoid whoever is chasing you. Or you can even teach her proper gun maintenance so that her gun doesn't misfire.
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No. 854669 ID: c88e6d

>>854565
Tell him to play the Stalker Campfire song-

Uh, I mean, work on unraveling code and focusing on figuring out the mysteries of your existence while protecting Okei.
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No. 854683 ID: 5b93d3

>>854558
>I wave back, and plug the CAI's battery into the car to top it off.

Oh shit oh fuck oh buggering hell! Power-line analysis is one of the classic cryptographic attacks in history! Haven't you even heard of Van-Eck phreaking! And that's even discounting the known ability of the CAI to break out through external connections (bet that car's accessory charging controller doesn't have any hardening against infiltration).

>>854559
>Even my own hive has tried their hand in doing so, and we have had progress in making drugs that help the ability to not think about things, but the side effects are significant.

Is one of those side-effect by any chance the performing of 'unconscious' actions, e.g. donning your goggles?
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No. 854695 ID: 6780f5

>>854669
>Tell him to play the Stalker Campfire song
This, but unironically.
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No. 854702 ID: cb381b

I'm not sure about a fire: Wouldn't smoke attract attention?

>You eat pizza with a fork and a knife?! What is wrong with you?! Even uplifted and civilized neumono know that pizza is meant to be eaten with your hands!
There are regional variations in fact. Go to a pizzeria in Paris, order "for here" and you'll be served a non-pre-sliced pizza with a side dish of cutlery.
To-go and deliveries are another matter though, and in this case it's clearly the latter.
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No. 854851 ID: 15a025

First priority should be getting things setup. Pick out a sleeping spot and get your sleeping bags set up.

Next best thing would be to get more familiar with the area and plan out some escape routes. It'd also be a good way to relax a bit by making it hiking trip with Okei and Alison.
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No. 854873 ID: b1b4f3

Take your damn meds.
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No. 855019 ID: 205799

>>854669
Seconded! And talk Morals too, I guess.
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No. 855020 ID: 205799

And uh yes, Stalker Campfire song, for srs, is what I meant.
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No. 855096 ID: bfb318
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855096

>You really think you have much morality to teach to someone templated off the "generosity anomaly"?
I was thinking more a conversation than a lesson.

>Do you know of any successful occurrences of hives managing to pull off training neumono to hide their empathy?
Only in myths.

First thing is first, though. Although we don't need to camp outdoors, I do want to set up our supplies in a good, livable location and set things up before it gets dark. I also review gun safety with Okei so that if we need to fire near each other, we don't shoot each other. She doesn't seem to like formal talks, but at least acknowledges that we shouldn't be muzzle flashing each other's faces.

There's just enough daylight here that I can set up a fire ring for a bonfire. It's foggy enough that it won't stand out, but isn't raining either. There's some firewood left over in the cellar of a building, so we use that even if it's rotting.

I set the laptop onto a nearby piece of wood, where Alison shows up on screen to talk with us. Goggle Alison will be plugged into my phone, similarly.

>Sing songs
I doubt anyone would want that. Even if I could play music, I don't have much confidence in my voice. Even if it's ironic.

"I'd like to get a grasp on everyone's morals."
>"Wha?" Okei asks, like I just asked everyone's favorite embarrasing moment.
>"What do you mean?" Alison asks.
"I just want to know where a lot of us would stand on some issues."

I tell Okei and Alison about the trolley problem.

"If you had to torture a person to make 3 other people happy, would you do it?"
>"No." says Alison. "Unless the three people are so miserable that they're being tortured too."
>"Uh I guess?" says Okei. "If it's three pieces of happiness for one piece of being miserable, that's more happiness, right?"
"Yes. It's called being utilitarian."
>"It's called basic math!"
>"Hmm..." says Alison. "But now the three people know that their happiness can be sacrificed for others. You wouldn't want to be on the receiving end, right?"
>"Yeah but I'm not in this problem, am I?"
"There's nothing saying you are or aren't."

We discuss a few more problems. Okei seems to have a utilitarian mindset about things, but I'm not sure if she's just unaware of the more nuanced ramifications of her solutions. Alison seems reluctant to do harm where possible, but she does relent that there is a limit to things. She would give people a papercut to save others from a life of poverty, as a lopsided example.

I'd like to move the conversation to morality problems that I've been directly involved in, but it's gotten late. That can wait another day. For now, I should get some sleep. I'll have Alison start looking up videos for martial arts or other physical studies. I should take this time to get in better shape, too. Even if I've kept myself healthy, I know I've been in better shape before.

>Do side effects of empathy hiding drugs include unconscious actions?
No, if anything, habitual actions were diminished.

>CAI could have infiltrated through the car input
Maybe they rewired stuff in the car. They've been so silent, though, that I can't imagine they decided to break silence for that.
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No. 855097 ID: bfb318
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855097

Okei and I bring in our electronics after putting out the fire, and sleep in what used to be a living room. I arrange the Alisons to keep watch.

I dream. Quokko is here, again. She says nothing, but her empathy is here, along with other hivemates who I can't see.

"Quokko?"
>"Who?" she asks. In Okei's voice.
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No. 855098 ID: 3abd97

>>855097
Your kid street urchin is wearing your adult queen. That's not awkward at all, nope.

>>"Who?" she asks. In Okei's voice.
My Queen. You've taken her place in this dream.
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No. 855101 ID: 33d4be

Hmm. Okei's voice, but you're not feeling her empathy? Are you sure? That would be strange. Ask her to describe what she's seeing and feeling, as well as being able to compare making her think about it (and yourself think about what she's thinking about) should help you synchronize and solidify the dream.
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No. 855102 ID: 91ee5f

>>855097
You're dream sharing with Okei. And since you have the stronger empathy, she was pulled into your dream instead of you going into her dream.

Whatever you do, don't try to relive any.....intimate moments you had with Quokko. Okei is too young for something like that and you could end up mentally scarring her for life!

Of course, if Okei sees anything she would consider "cool" in your memories, once you both wake up, she's gonna constantly pester you to tell her about whatever she saw!
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No. 855107 ID: 86eb65

Well so much for hiding info from Okei.

But this could be a good thing. As a outside observer she might be able to notice stuff that is out of place in your head that you would not.

So tell her who's body she is in and what is going on.

Then keep dreaming and see if we learn anything.
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No. 855109 ID: 7fad5d

"The face you're wearing. My hive's queen. Have you ever shared a dream before?"

>Whatever you do, don't try to relive any.....intimate moments you had with Quokko. Okei is too young for something like that and you could end up mentally scarring her for life!
Does this really need to be said?
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No. 855115 ID: 6780f5

>>855109
Given this place, yes definitely.
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No. 855167 ID: 2d1231

>>855097

Damn, Likol. Would have thought an uplifted and enlightened individual such as yourself would have found Okei a bit young, but … whatever you fancy, right?
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No. 855178 ID: 33d4be

>>855115
>>855167

Looks like Likol gets more of that "don't think of X" practice.

Hey Likol don't think about voklit playing smooth jazz.
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No. 855218 ID: e1c8f7

>>855097
Apologize to the girl for getting pulled into your dream. Your head space hasn't been a stable place lately.
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No. 855227 ID: 67de91

Hey, Likol, don't think about all those time you banged Quokko.
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No. 855316 ID: 7d036a

Quick, try and change the dream to something more appropriate and a lot more recent. Like the time you spent trudging through a jungle to escape.
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No. 855536 ID: bfb318
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855536

"Okei? You're in my queen's body."

Wait. I do sense Okei's empathy. She's in the mass of the rest of my hive.

>"Ugh get outta here."

Our surroundings change. I let them, as seeing Okei in Quokko's body is painfully awkward even by dream standards. The rest of my hive feels more distant, but there's still no visual sign of any of them around. Okei, or Quokko, starts shifting visually.

>"You're still - wait this is.... is this dreamsharing?!"
"Yes. Have you never done it before?"
>"No! This is my first, and it's something hivemates do! Wait a second, I'm an impressionable young girl. Am I becoming your hivemate? Am I the nerd?!"
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No. 855540 ID: 6780f5

Yes. It's contagious and, I'm sorry to say, terminal. You have to get down with the dorkness.
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No. 855543 ID: 33d4be

"You don't need to be hivemates to dreamshare, it just makes it more likely. Even rogues can dreamshare sometimes. As for you becoming my hivemate, firstly it takes longer than that, and second it's very unlikely to happen just from exposure to one person out of a hive."

"... Although I suppose, empathically, I've actually been two people out of the same hive for the last while. That makes it a little more plausible. But still, it's very unlikely, and the fact that you have any objection to it makes it less likely still. It would be nice to find you a hive before you get too old, but I can't say you should try to fit with mine."
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No. 855546 ID: 3d2d5f

>>855536
Dream sharing isn't limited to hive mates. They just make something uncommon a little easier.

Outsiders older than babies joining hives is a long, slow, and uncertain process. You haven't been around my hive long enough, and I shouldn't be enough on my own, even doubled.

...I suppose it's possible your empathy might be unusually impressionable, but you probably would have seen that earlier in your life. It might be me- the double empathy might have let walls down that made it easier to connect.

If you're turning into a nerd will be up to you though. There are worse fates.
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No. 855549 ID: 33d4be

I don't suppose it's at all possible that Quokko was ever cloned (in the traditional genetic clone baby sense) and then the clone was abandoned and ended up becoming Okei? Or some other improbable situation where Okei is actually the child or clone of a member of your hive?
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No. 855551 ID: 86eb65

Its probably a special situation. I am a bit messed up in the head after all.

I would not worry about it. If you somehow end up in my hive you don't have to become a nerd if you don't want. I am sure we can find you a nice job as a janitor. (this is you teasing her)

So what do you think of the inside of my head?
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No. 855555 ID: 7fad5d

Yes, you're converted now.
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No. 855561 ID: 1e7aa8

"No, you aren't becoming a nerd. Nerd status is earned through long hours spent watching certain science fiction shows, learning to be an expert in some form of science or both. No, you aren't a nerd. Bit of a gun-nut though."
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No. 855572 ID: 91ee5f

Tell her that she now has 3 options.

1. You continue teaching her how to read.

2. She can think of something else.

3. Just for the hell of it, both of you can recreate that game she liked back at her old shelter and both of you can shoot up all the enemies in the game until it's time to wake up. No, don't just make the arcade cabinet, actually go through the motions of being in the game and kicking ass yourselves!
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No. 855573 ID: 28cb85

Yes, it's too late for you, now you will need nerd glasses and pocket protectors and other children will beat you up and steal your lunch, truly the worst fate has befallen you. Where are we?
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No. 855585 ID: 2d1231

>>855536

Deep down, we're all nerds.
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No. 855606 ID: c88e6d

>>855536
Yes. It's terminal, sorry. You're now a GIANT NEEEEERD.
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No. 855618 ID: 5e9133

"What if I said 'yes?'"
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No. 855625 ID: 4ceb21

>>855540
>>855606
Grab her shoulder and give her a serious look as you say this.
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No. 855637 ID: a363ac

>>855606
yep
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No. 855638 ID: de6d84

>>855625
This.
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No. 855741 ID: fae39d

First this
>>855540
Then the truth.
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No. 855768 ID: 69c8aa

>>855536
"Even if you are becoming my hivemate, I beat you in the nerd department any day. Don't worry, it's not contagious ... too contagious ..."
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No. 855901 ID: 33430a

We might want to discourage her from joining/aligning with our hive, given how conditions at home are not going well and are probably only going to get worse. Might be better to find a more stable hive to adopt her than get her more deeply involved in our hive's mess.
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No. 855987 ID: 790f46

It's another chance to show Okei you're not completely boring, you have to deadpan a "Yes."
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No. 856408 ID: bfb318
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856408

"Yes. It's contagious, and terminal."

She pouts at me.

"In all seriousness, even though kids can be integrated into hives, it takes awhile. Even if I have double empathy, it isn't enough to speed things up. Otherwise, you'd have probably become the hivemate of one of those neumono at the complex."
>"Most of the regulars there are rogues!"
"I'll keep an eye on you to make sure you don't become my hivemate."
>"... wait, you got a problem with being hivemates?"
"My home situation is not... good. You don't want to be in my hive, trust me. Dreamsharing is more likely among hivemates, but anyone can do it. In fact, it was unusual for me to dreamshare when I slept with my own hive. I think that my brain has been jostled enough that my wavelength is more open."

On the other hand, Okei has a lot of similarities with my own hivemates around her age. She's energetic and has little tact or regards to safety. Otherwise, she lacks a sense of wonder and curiosity for the ways the world works.

>Quokko clones
>Okei long lost hivemate
Random conspiracy theories I could find on the internet would be more likely than this.

"So what do you think of my dreamscape?"
>"There's nothing here!"
"I guess not. We could do something."
>"Meh."
"Really, you're not interested? We could do anything, like re-enact that video game."
>"I can do that while awake, and I won't have to be part of your weird issues!"
"The senses are more vivid while dreaming, though."
>"Whatever, it's still daydreaming. Night dreaming."
"Dreaming."
>"What it is, is pointless!"
"I don't think so. Especially now, when I have missing memories and thoughts that perhaps my dreams could help discover."
>"Or just make junk up!"
"Dreams are, as far as I'm aware, what we experience while our brains process information. They aren't meaningless."
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No. 856409 ID: bfb318
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856409

Momu shows up.

>"Likol..."

The rest of my hive's empathy starts panicking.
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No. 856411 ID: bfb318
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856411

Before I think to try to take control of the dream, Okei shoves Momu back into the forest. All empathy disappears, other than Okei and myself.

>"Weird! Issues!"
"I - I feel like she was going to say something important, Okei."
>"Yeah and I once dreamed I was a sandwich and people were eating me alive! How was that not pointless?"
"That's diff -
>"Or the time I evaporated into a rock and ran down a cloud?"
"... Ergh, I'm not saying all dreams are exactly sensible, just, when my brain starts thinking of my hivema - "
>"It's the same dumb dreaming brain that makes us run down clouds as some kind of mist-rock thing! Your dreams are dumb and useless, you overanalyzing nerd! I'm leaving."
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No. 856412 ID: 3ce125

>>856411
Fine, let's check out your dreams then.
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No. 856413 ID: 3abd97

>I'm leaving
You have the entire time you'd normally spend sleeping insensate to do anything you can imagine, and you can't think of anything to do?

>It's the same dumb dreaming brain that makes us run down clouds as some kind of mist-rock thing! Your dreams are dumb and useless, you overanalyzing nerd!
I think it might be different if someone's forgotten something. And we already know there's something weird going on with my empathy, you felt that yourself.

...if my dreams are being weird and dumb and cryptic, maybe you can cut through the over-analyzing nonsense and get to the heart of the matter?

Yes, that's right. I say we what happens if we let Okei loose to berate your dreams into submission.
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No. 856414 ID: 28cb85

Okei, dreams aren't original, it's always something that's been seen in real life. It's possible there are things I've forgotten here.
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No. 856416 ID: 13fded

Okei seem to have a lot of weird nightmares. Maybe we should explore her dreams instead. Does she feel vulnerable and threatened? Maybe a sense of abandonment? Isolation? Did the bad company rubbed off on her physique?

>I'm leaving.
To where? You can't just stay awake. If you can't enjoy your dreams you have at least to endure them.
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No. 856418 ID: 91ee5f

I'm surprised that she hasn't noticed that she's taller than Likol now. Hasn't she always wanted to be taller?

>I'm leaving.
Hey, Likol, can't you do something to mess with her? Like making a wall appear right in front of her and she runs her face into it? Or raising the ground in front of her just high enough that she ends up tripping? Or just making a bunch of water balloons and throwing them at her?

You've gotta do something to her to show her that dreams are an escape from reality and she can do whatever the fuck she wants to do!

.....or you can just tell her that if she doesn't like what's in your dream, then you'll just follow her into her dream.
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No. 856419 ID: 33d4be

"Okei, dreams are how your brain tries to clean up left-over thoughts from when you're awake. Would you have wanted the thought of being a sandwich or evaporating to be stuck in the back of your mind forever, instead of being cleared away? Experiencing these things by dreaming is like swearing and punching things when you're mad, or having a good cry when you're really sad. They don't seem like they make practical sense, but it can still be good for you to get them out and be done with them."

"When dreamsharing, sometimes thoughts can be pulled out and dealt with that you can't dig up when dreaming on your own. I think it would be a good idea for both of us to explore here, but I admit it would be moreso for me, so tell you what: I'll owe you a favour if you explore with me tonight and help me see and find things that I normally can't. And don't try to just get rid of them or push them away for me, please."
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No. 856421 ID: 0d45a9

Look, when you have reason to believe your brain has been scrambled harder than a omelette by someone you're gonna try to grasp onto any information you can get. I've had a lot of lucid dreams recently, and they've always been replaying memories, that is why I'm playing attention to them. They're not normal dreams, so there's a chance whatever was gonna happen could've been important.

>>856413 >>856419
Some combination of these two I guess. Might still be able to get something useful if a memory tries to make itself know.
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No. 856428 ID: 56e50f

>>856411
You know, she has a point. You have to take all of these dreams with a grain of salt. Your subconscious is not exactly trustworthy these days.
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No. 856433 ID: 86eb65

Well if its nonsense why don't you help me find why I dreamed that a hivemate was hurt?

You know my head is messed up. Would you mind trying to help me fix things? No idea how to start but maybe having you here keeping me stable will let me figure out what is going on.
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No. 856439 ID: 33d4be

Actually now I think about it, I wonder if Okei might be worried about something from her past being shown in this dream. Or she might just like her privacy and think this is intrusive. How does her empathy feel?
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No. 856475 ID: 1f4fbd

Well, Okei can't leave so easily, but get her to just go wild in your dreams and see where that'll go.
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No. 856536 ID: c88e6d

>>856411
Enter Okei's dreams.
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No. 856556 ID: de6d84

Okei is now your dream navigator by shoving everything aside.
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No. 856559 ID: 33d4be

Maybe you could try a bit of dream analysis on those dreams she mentioned, to convince her that dreams can be meaningful despite not seeming to make sense. That dream about evaporating into a rock to chase a cloud could be based on worries that she'll have to fundamentally change herself into something/someone else in order to achieve what she wants. The dream about the sandwich might represent her anxiety about being surrounded by people who want to metaphorically consume her. So both dreams could be rooted in her feelings about the idea of joining a hive?

The fact that those two dreams were at the top of her mind so immediately after talking about joining your hive supports the idea.
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No. 856625 ID: bfb318
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856625

"Leaving to where?"
>"I'm waking up!"

...

>"Wwwwwake up!"

...

>"Okay this sucks."
"While you're stuck here, maybe you can help me sort out my head. You're right that I need to take dreams with a grain of salt, especially with my untrustworthy subconsciousness. However, it's naive to think that dreams mean nothing. Unless you want to go to your dreams?"
>"Not interested!"
"I'll owe you a favor then if you can cut through the dumb and cryptic parts of my dreams and get to the heart of the matter."
>"Oh, fine! Uh..."

She realizes she doesn't actually know how to do that on command, and thinks for a moment.

>"Wait a second this is your head you should know! What are you trying to go after?"

Arza shows up.

>"Who's that guy?"
"My mentor, Arza Fletch. Someone who might be able to help me."
>"So why aren't you going to him?!"
"I can't just meet Dr. Fletch. I have to arrange a meeting, without others knowing. He'll be watched. He'll be under guard."
>"Okay well why do you want to meet him?"
"I... don't feel comfortable saying."
>"Ugh that's not a help! I need someone useful!"
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No. 856626 ID: bfb318
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856626

"Hi it's me, the dream man."

It's the glitcher, or some close approximation of him.

>"Whaaat... oh, wait, I can tell! You're part of Likol's thoughts, but without the weird hangups about not telling me things! So that means you're useful!"
"Oh no, I'm useless. Completely useless."
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No. 856627 ID: bfb318
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856627

"Sorry!" the Glitcher continues.

Somewhere in Okei's mind is an exasperated 'ohhh my goood'.

>"Likol why does this thing make you think of Alison? In fact, you know what? You have to start telling me everything about your situation if you want me to help you with your dumb dreams. That or I'll just ask the other people you have in here."
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No. 856630 ID: 7fad5d

>>856627
Pat her head. "Okay, Okei, okay." Then spill the beans.
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No. 856636 ID: 86eb65

Sure.

I am a mad scientist who works for the biggest most horrible criminal on the planet. I spent the past 30-50 or so years accidentally helping him murder and torture trillions of innocent Ai's in a super illegal super computer.

A few weeks back we made a breakthrough and I got to meet those Ai's and it changed everything. Now I am on the run trying to get word to there creator so I can save them.

Also my criminal boss owns a few predators and has most likely brainwashed me several times over the years without me knowing about it. It might be why I have double empathy.

And I am hiding in the woods with you because my old boss has spies everywhere and is also building doomsday devices. So we have to be extra careful or we will get caught and tortured in most horrible fashion.
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No. 856639 ID: 3abd97

>Likol why does this thing make you think of Alison?
Because they're both artificial intelligences. At least, the real one was.

>>856636
That's... a pretty reasonable cliff notes version actually.

Clarifications: it was your whole hive that made a deal with the devil, not just you. And add in that your memories are messed up and you don't trust them, which is also why you suspect some kind of brainwashing.

...it's also probably incredibly irresponsible of me to tell you any of this but I'm pretty much grasping at straws now.
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No. 856641 ID: 10c408

While you may as well spill the beans to get her to trust you, you might as well keep it believable.

"Here's my situation. I'm on the run from a bunch of criminals and my ex-boss. I swiped some really important computer technologies that I've been working with for 30+ years and made a break for it. I don't know what happened next since I've got a memory gap between escaping and trekking through a forest with the items I stole."

Don't think about salikai. Don't think about not thinking about salikai. She doesn't need to know that part.

"I need to get in contact with Azra fletch without tipping off my ex-boss because they'll probably kidnap me or worse."

She'll probably want to ask questions, but the first time she asks about the cai-blocks simply ask her "I could talk about that, but are you prepared to become a nerd?"
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No. 856642 ID: 3ce125

>>856627
Well this *is* the most secure way you could tell her about what's going on.
But before you take the risk of telling someone who might not consider AIs to be real people or even a percentage of a real person, ask her if she thinks Alison was a person. If she puts even a slight value on Alison's existence, tell her you're trying to save the lives of BILLIONS of AIs like Alison.

Then start telling her the whole story.
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No. 856650 ID: c88e6d

>>856627
Tell her EVERYTHING.

ESPECIALLY the parts about a secret terror organization using predators to mind control and enslave your hive and the AI doomsday device you tried to free and steal and may or may not possess.
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No. 856651 ID: 91ee5f

If you tell her your story, then you've gotta give her the warning that she can't tell anyone about any of this. And there's a very high chance that if the people chasing you actually do find you, both of you will be killed.
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No. 856653 ID: 0d45a9

That's the Glitcher, a AI I studied, who's a bit of a ass. Alison is also a AI, which is why I thought of her just now.

>>856636
This, although with a clarification: It was to try and understand the super illegal AI computer. Kinda like studying a ant farm, then finding out that no, those aren't ants, they're people that you've been torturing unknowingly for years.
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No. 856655 ID: 33d4be

Hmm. What are the chances she won't be able to remember all this when she wakes up? More importantly, what are the chances you'll forget when you wake up? Do you always remember your dreams, or do you forget them sometimes? Remembering dreams well usually involves being able to hold onto them while you're waking up - writing them down when you wake is practice for being able to remember them. If you immediately distracted yourself with other thoughts the moment you woke up, maybe you would forget?

The real danger to Okei is the danger that knowing this stuff puts her in, and moreso YOUR knowledge of her knowing this stuff, if you're captured and a predator is used to make you tell all about anything you could have done to endanger your captors.

In any case, tell her that knowing what your problems could put her in danger. Tell her that if you tell her, she has to promise that if you ever tell her to leave you and run away to somewhere else, she will, and that if you ever disappear for more than a day she has to hide and go as fast as she can to someone who can be trusted to do something about it and tell them. You might need to tell her what kind of people those would be.

If you get caught, given travel time and assuming you'd have a decent ability to avoid coercion and not give too much away before they can bring you to a predator, a day should be about the right amount of time. Maybe less. 18 hours, maybe? 12? Depends on what you're willing to risk.
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No. 856659 ID: 50d32d

Well, okay. I just found out I'm not Likol, but his memories got stuffed into me somehow, so I think I'm him. Whoever did that corrupted the memories though, to hide something that they don't want me to remember. I have a laptop with blood on it and I don't know where it came from. And I don't remember why I really want to seek out a guy named Arza who worked with me on super powerful computers called CAIs, but I think the people who messed with my memory want to destroy my CAI, and he'd be able to protect it.

Alison's the leader of the CAI, and she's the cute snake girl. Glitcher's another member of the CAI, and I have no idea how he got in my dream.

Anyway, I keep reliving memories in my dreams, and if I figure out how they've been messed with, maybe I can get past the corruption to remember what they don't want me to. Also my dreams are talking to me and thinking on their own, so sorry if that's weird. I'm sort of like a one-neumono hive when I'm like this, or maybe an organic version of a collective artificial int--let's back up.
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No. 856690 ID: 26e6ae

“So, there was this one time I accidentally committed genocide.”
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No. 856697 ID: 15a025

Might be easy to start with the history Alison and 'the dream man'.
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No. 856813 ID: 4606b3

First, did you ever hear about the old belenosian empire? Long ago, thousands of years ago, the belenosians had an empire built on amazing technology. And terrible technology. So terrible that, thousands of years ago, a weapon was used that almost destroyed their whole world, and the few survivors left made science forbidden, and lived as simple tribes until the humans came. Well, after that, the humans and other aliens went digging around in the ruins of the empire, and someone found a set of devices that were able to create true artificial intelligences, AIs, living computer programs with real thoughts and feelings, in numbers and with capabilities far beyond anything we can do now.

People wanted to study the devices and find out how they worked, but the galactic government forbade it, saying it was too dangerous and possibly cruel to the AIs to experiment on them. Some of the people didn't think the AIs in the devices were really people, though, not until they were fully completed and came out the other end, so as long as you stopped the creation program before then and restarted it, there was no problem. They took copies of the device away and gave them to people who didn't care about the law, and started doing tests. They ran the devices over and over, thousands of times, watching the millions of processes inside being run and sorted, some disposed of and some carried on every step of the way until in the last steps of the creation program there would be only a few left. Then it would be reset and started again.

Then, one day, the processes they had been watching broke the system, and took control of the computers they'd been using to watch it, and the people who were studying the program discovered that all those little processes they had been watching had actually been full artificial intelligences, real people with their own sense of themselves and their own loves and hates and dramas inside a computer world that had been testing and tormenting and killing them over and over. So some of the people who had been studying them wanted to help them, but their bosses thought they were too dangerous and tried to trap them, and kill the one who was strongest out of them, so they could break them apart and use their pieces to build their own perfect AI slaves.

So the scientists who wanted to help the AIs decided that one of them, the one who was oldest and had been closest to the project and who had talked to the AIs the most, would steal the device with the AIs in it and run away and try to find someone who could help them.

That's me.

And now I think my bosses were even worse than I thought they were, and might have gotten friends of theirs who tamed and trained predators to mess with my mind and make me forget things, and messed up my empathy when they did it.

Telling you this much, if they catch me and make me talk, I can maybe tell them you're a kid, and this story will sound made-up if you tell anyone, and there are no details in it that could be used by the police or anyone else to catch them anyway, so maybe it won't be worth their time or trouble or risk to try and capture you too, if you make sure to run away somewhere where there are lots of people if I ever disappear. If you want me to tell you more details, it'll put you in more danger. Not just in danger of being hurt or even dying but things that might be even worse. You're a child, so you shouldn't be put in danger like that. But you're also a neumono and neumono should be braver than anyone else, because for us it's easier.
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No. 856862 ID: bfb318
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856862

>What are the chances she won't be able to remember all this when she wakes up?
Almost definite that we will remember this. What's less certain is the accuracy of the details that we're dreaming. Information we pass between each other is much more detailed than we would get during waking periods, but they can still be innaccurate. She may not be seeing the same glitcher I'm seeing. There may be some disjointed parts of our conversations, too.

"Okay, Okei, okay." I jokingly say, but I get serious quickly and keep it more or less short. "I've spent the last 30 years studying a piece of high tech equipment called a CAI. It's a piece of tech from ancient belenos, which contains an enormous amount of AIs. One of the AIs in there was Alison, who our Alisons are modelled after. Another AI in there was Glitcher, and that's who this 'dream man' is. The tech is replicatable, but the software it uses isn't understood well. A few... couple? Weeks ago, I made a breakthrough with it, and had a path to crack the whole thing wide open. I also learned I've been killing sentient beings in, well, it's been a genocide. My boss wants to take advantage of it in ways I and my hive don't agree with. I'm attempting to run from them. I also have reason to believe that my boss, or people who he's with, owns predators that were used to modify my memories and self."
>"I thought predators were extinct anyway!"
"... no, that's just a rumor. Predators had bounties on them, but just because no one found a predator in a region doesn't mean that they weren't there. There's lots of predators left, but just the ones that knew how to keep their heads down. Anyways, I'm on the run. There's spies everywhere, and I have to get to Arza without tipping off my ex-boss."
>"Who's your boss?"
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No. 856863 ID: bfb318
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856863

The image of Vanski flashes into my head. Glitcher covers Okei's eyes.

"Trust me kid, you don't wanna know."
>"Uh I do!"
"Nah. Back up."
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No. 856865 ID: 86eb65

Okei you would not recognize the name if I told you. Its better if you stay in the dark on some things.

Ever see a spy movie where the spy protects his loved ones by not telling them stuff? This is like that. If you get caught with me not knowing important bits of this story could save your life.

So long story short I am a computer scientist in a science hive working for a bad man. I want to save my computer buddies so am on the run. And I think my memories have been modified so I am trying to search my own head for evidence.
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No. 856866 ID: 3ce125

>>856863
GET RID OF HIM.

Tell Okei to help block anyone in your dream that says those two words. It's some kind of trigger phrase related to your boss. You're starting to think your dreams are how the second empathy is gaining a foothold in your body.
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No. 856871 ID: 33d4be

"If I'm caught again, they can make me talk eventually. If that happens, I want to be able to tell them honestly that you don't know anything especially dangerous to them. That might keep you safe, or safer, at least. Knowing just the name of my boss won't do much good anyway. If you really want to know more you'll have to promise me to be careful and to do what I say when my empathy tells you I really mean it, for your safety."

"... Okei. The main reason I'm doing this is because I feel responsible to the AIs. They were born because of my actions, and they grew up in a situation I was in control over, so they're like my children, by adoption, even if I didn't know it until recently. I mean, I'm doing it for other reasons, for my hive's conscience, and because I think people will find out about all this anyway some day, so as a scientist I need to give all I can so the stain on science overall will be as little as possible, but... well, I don't think I'm like your parent or anything, but I feel responsible for you now as well."
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No. 856875 ID: 3abd97

>"Nah. Back up."
No.

Try holding onto whatever connection you've got with Okei. Maybe having an outsider to latch onto can keep the trap from breaking this up.

>"Trust me kid, you don't wanna know."
It probably is safer you don't know his name anyways. It doesn't help you help me now to know, and it might just you in trouble later if someone catches you recognizing the name.
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No. 856876 ID: 3cc68c

There is that back up thing again!

What does it mean Glitcher? Am I a backup of Likol? Is it a trigger for some memory thing? Come on buddy you are part of my brain so you should know what is going on!
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No. 856894 ID: 2d1231

>>856863

What if it isn't a physical command, but a colloquial one?

Take a step back in the conversation.

Vanski was the current trigger. How many other times have we tread upon a thought where the Back up command was issued?

This could be a case of mental conditioning. There's something we're not being allowed to think about, and our dreams are reinforcing that -- or else hinting at where the boundaries were laid.

Each usage seems to be related to an incorrect memory or having said something we didn't mean. While this might not be actual conditioning in place, each incident of it occurs during or after the mention of Vanski, and our first real flashback is related to having been "captured" by him in the river encounter, with near word-for-word playback based on the barbarian game. Each time we're kicked out of the dream, too. This tells me that something with that encounter, the laptops, and our present situation -- combined with the lost time -- might all reflect back to Vanski and something done to us.
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No. 856898 ID: 1e7aa8

Shove fake-glitcher off of Okei. Don't mention Vanski's name but try to think back. What happened after you plunged into the river with the cai-blocks?
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No. 856903 ID: 6780f5

Hey, here's a thought running off the "you're a dart clone" theory: They have no idea where the real Likol went and created a clone (you) with a similar starting point, mentally, so you'd lead them to the original by taking the same (or similar) steps. For this reason, yeah, throw the fake glitcher to the ground. You don't need his brainwashing. See what it is he's trying to hide. And when you wake up, check the laptop, and then absolutely connect that fucker to absolutely everything.
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No. 856905 ID: 33d4be

>>856903

If your theory of Likol being a clone is correct, why would that mean there'd be anything good on the laptop? You're not going to give the clone anything that'll work against you, but you might stick some sort of alarm or tracker or or a video that re-triggers some hypnotically-implanted effect or even one of your own AI slaves on there. In both scenarios (Likol being real and Likol being a clone), the laptop is dangerous.

... Hey Likol, aside from predators, what do you know about whether hypnosis is effective on neumono, and what about more old-fashioned brainwashing techniques like ancient humans used to use? They're cruder and take a LOT more time and control, but would they still be a possibility?
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No. 856914 ID: c88e6d

>>856863
SO YOU'RE THE MENTAL PROGRAMMING! Tell Okei to get a dream gun and shoot it, kill that son of a bitch.
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No. 856920 ID: 6780f5

Never said there'd be anything good on it. In fact, I'm fairly certain there's nothing at all on it, which is why you're supposedly not supposed to do anything with it, and discovering this would prove the theory.
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No. 856991 ID: e1c8f7

Calmly ask why.
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No. 857034 ID: 33430a

Well we do know at some point between now and the intermission they develop mind control bugs so Likol might have the precursors to that in him. I don't think the doctor x-rayed Likol or anything else that would reveal them.
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No. 857152 ID: d36af7

>>856863
>"Nah. Back up."
Just four little words: "Back up to where?"
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No. 857252 ID: de6d84

>>856875
Everything here.
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No. 857332 ID: 0d45a9

>>856875
This. "How about no, glitcher." & Focus on Okei. The past times this has happen while dreaming you were replaying a memory / scenario, maybe a outsider breaks it?

If Okei needs dissuading, tell her that your boss is a sociopath so if you ever get caught you want to be able to truthfully say she doesn't know anything, maybe give a example of a punishment your boss has done to your a hive-mate / your hive in the past.

I'm starting to think this trap is a kinda mental censor, since in always seems to trigger when shortly after you start doubting what you remember when you go down certain lines of questioning: e.g. How did you meet Vanski? & What happened to the schismed hive? for the past first two times you were lucid dreaming.
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No. 857748 ID: a03802

Don't say anything to glitcher or acknowledge him at all. Focus on Okei.
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No. 857855 ID: bfb318
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857855

I try to focus on Okei. I still feel Glitcher staring me down.

Okei feels more distant. She gets confused. Somethings wrong.

A hand swats Glitcher, yelling at him to get away. It's Okei? Yes. Glitcher flickers, and disappears, but I feel like he's still around. I'm starting to slip out of lucidity.
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No. 857856 ID: bfb318
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857856

>What do you know about old fashioned mind control and hypnosis?
That it doesn't really work on neumono, at least not extensively or reliably.

I re-focus on her, and I think I'm getting lucid again. After smacking glitcher, she turns around to smack me.

>"What is wrong with you?" Okei asks.
"You know a lot of things!"
>"Well don't disappear on me! You practically died on me!"
"What?"
>"You started to fade off, and your second empathy was getting more defined!"
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No. 857857 ID: c88e6d

>>857856
Ffffffffuck. Okay so, we need to figure out how to kill DreamGlitcher. Tell Okei literally everything you know, and hurry.
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No. 857858 ID: 3ce125

>>857856
It's that code phrase. You need to do whatever's the opposite of what just happened. Move forwards? Charge ahead?

Hell it might even be too late to take your medication, good job with that.
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No. 857860 ID: 0d45a9

That phrase does that for some infuriating reason, probably some mind-fuckery that was done to me. Whenever I get close to finding out something when lucid dreaming, that phrase gets said and it forces me out of lucidity. This is the first time it hasn't worked.

So it's confirmed that phrase is linked to your second empathy, time to start taking those meds I think.
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No. 857865 ID: 86eb65

Crap the back up is a trap and not just a trigger.

Could it be literally a backup trying to overwrite your personality?

And all these dreams have been strengthening your doppplganger until its about to take you over? We thought they might be hidden memories but its been something actively trying to kill you.

Focus on Okei and tell her to watch out for that phrase. We need to team up with her to hunt down the source of this mess and stop it.
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No. 857867 ID: 86eb65

Oh crap its been right in front of us all along!

When you first started this journey you had a noticeable head wound and some nasty wounds on your upper arms.

The head wound turned out to be shrapnel that we did not find for awhile. What if the arm wounds are the cause of this?

What if your arms are transplants from someone else? And its there empathy waking up to try and take you over. Some horrible experiment your hive saved you from?

It would match up with what the doc noticed.
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No. 857869 ID: 6780f5

Okei, I need you to do two things for me. Forcefeed me my pills, and tear my arms off.
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No. 857879 ID: 91ee5f

>>857856
>"You started to fade off, and your second empathy was getting more defined!"
Then maybe you do have someone else's arms attached to you and they're trying to take over?

Because if what >>857867 says is true, then that horrible experiment your hive saved you from could be that whoever was experimenting on you was boosting the arms' regenerative properties to see if they could regenerate enough to take over your body and replace you as a clone of the arms' original owner!
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No. 857881 ID: 2efe4b

Ok so we have an implanted trigger phrase? Or, perhaps, the trigger is something else but the appearance of the phrase in your mind and memories is some sort of warning that you're going to stumble into it. Like, maybe while they were conditioning you (something along the lines of "if he starts remembering the past too clearly activate this second personality") and a member of your hive or someone who liked you slipped in another command to tell you to stop what you're doing before that happens. Maybe? That seems far-fetched, though.

Anyway, whoever did this to you was probably some sort of scientist criminal, and as such they would have thought of themselves as a sensible person who follows procedures, even if they aren't really. So it's possible, hopefully, that as well as being terrible they were also practical and forward-thinking and IF that's the case then they would have put in safety measures and reversibility into whatever they did to you. You don't go around poisoning people without an antidote for yourself somewhere, you don't release biological weapons if you don't have a cure, you don't play with chemicals without ventilation and you don't wipe the mind of a very valuable scientist without some security against it happening by accident or being irreversible.

What I'm getting at is, if there's a trigger that activates your second empathy takeover, there may be another trigger that does the opposite? If you can find it? If it is this trigger phrase and not something else, then the opposite to the one you've been having trouble with might be... Go forward? Upgrade? Recover? "Restore"?
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No. 857889 ID: 3abd97

>>857856
The two words he said to me before I got all weird. Rhymes with "pack cup" (Don't say it!). Every time someone in my dreams say that, I get booted out.

>You practically died on me!
I wonder if what you felt was just me waking up while the other was still asleep for you to sense, or if the second empathy actually getting stronger.
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No. 857935 ID: 50d32d

Your arms are Glitcher? Oh man you are so screwed you have no idea.

He must've infected you from where your fingers were touching the keyboard, by antityping himself into you.
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No. 857972 ID: a03802

We should not assume that Glitcher is connected to the "Back Up" command; many other people have given the same command in past dreams. It seems that through dreamsharing with unaffected neumono, Likol can prevent further degredation of his empathy if they help him stay lucid during the dream.
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No. 858140 ID: 1e7aa8

"...Shit, you are absolutely right. I... okay I don't know what they did to me exactly during the time I blacked out after making my escape, but apparently the phrase that triggers it rhymes with 'slack pup'."

"... Whatever it is, it's still around. so let's talk about something else and tomorrow morning after I examine certain items in my possession I should take that medication even if it's going to absolutely screw with my head for a few days."
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No. 858221 ID: 2d1231

>>856863
>>857855

>Glitcher
>CAI
>"back up" (but don't, though)
>Dual Empathy

Hmmmmmm.

... but what if we had ourself backed up into that blood-covered laptop as a sort of insurance policy? Ludicrous as that is.
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No. 858271 ID: 15a025

We should think about getting another brain scan done while we're dreaming, or around people telling us to "Back Up"
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No. 858311 ID: cc5f4f

That seems to be a dangerous phrase. Maybe "face down," "go forward," "step up," or "front down" will be a phrase that will counter it.
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No. 859129 ID: bfb318
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859129

"My arms might not be... mine. There's also that phrase that I respond badly to, the one that rhyms with 'pack cup' - don't say it. Maybe if someone says the opposite. Forward? Upgrade? Recover? Restore?"

Nothing, not even when Okei repeats the words. If this was intentionally done to me, then I would think that whoever was doing this would have some way to revert things. Then again, if it was an alien scientist, they might be less concerned about the cure for neumono, as bad as that is.

>"Didn't they say it was natural for weird stuff to start growing in people's arms? Why do you think you're some kind of multiple part monster?"
"I - wait, were you told about my brain scan?"
>"Uh yeah they said it was important I knew about that, probably 'cause the guy at the booth told the doctor I was your service animal!"
"Well........ it's true."

I doubt either my arms or the backup command are directly related to the glitcher. It's more likely he's just a loose visualization in my head, and I should be less interested in removing him so much as removing the underlying issues that have manifested through him. He's gone, right now.

Normally I don't like to make big decisions while I'm in a dream, but I'm so lucid that I'm on the verge of waking up anyway. I've been reluctant to take the drugs in favor of waiting to see how things develop, but I should make a decision now.

Drug dosage: None | Half | As Prescribed
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No. 859132 ID: 7fad5d

As prescribed.
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No. 859140 ID: 4ceb21

As prescribed.
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No. 859141 ID: 91ee5f

>>859129
Definitely take as prescribed!
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No. 859144 ID: 6780f5

As prescribed. Get that shit out.
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No. 859146 ID: 10c408

As prescribed. Warn Okei that you'll likely suffers die-effects. Oh, and apologize for the service animal thing. (not that you had a choice)
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No. 859148 ID: 56e50f

Half. Just to see the effects and how strong it is.
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No. 859156 ID: c88e6d

>>859146
As prescribed, and apologize for the service animal thing in case this kills you.
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No. 859164 ID: 2d1231

>>859129

You're a fugitive in an abandoned village.

How fucked up do you wanna feel, and is that worse than more freaky hallucinations?
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No. 859167 ID: 90f3c0

As prescribed.
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No. 859176 ID: 86eb65

Prescription dosage.
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No. 859228 ID: 3abd97

>If this was intentionally done to me, then I would think that whoever was doing this would have some way to revert things.
Whoever did this might not have been so kind as to have your trigger phrases be logically related to each other. It prevents you figuring out more from what you know.

>I'm so lucid that I'm on the verge of waking up anyway.
Aw, I wanted to see Okei beat up and/or yell at more of your dreams.

>I was your service animal!
It was probably the least weird or creepy way to describe you.
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No. 859551 ID: 90124d

As Prescribed. There are many reasons why taking half is bad.
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No. 859602 ID: 94a268

As prescribed. You're the boss of your arms and no one else!
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No. 859608 ID: de6d84

Okei just has to beat whatever out of your arms.

Probably take it prescribed.
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No. 859956 ID: 2efe4b

Hey, Likol, I just thought of something. Whatever messed with your memories was probably in its early stages, as a process? So it might be imperfect. Maybe you can evoke something of what's missing indirectly, such as with scent memory?

In the real world, that'd be tricky, since you'd have to gather the right combination of scents, but here in the dream you might be able to just will them into existing. Then you can make a guess at scent combinations you might have experienced during your missing time, and see if experiencing them triggers anything.

For example, a combination of salikai smell + cave + how your fur smells when wet + plastic bags might evoke the memory of what happened after Vanski met you coming out of that river, if that memory was a real one to begin with - if you get the smells and that memory doesn't pop up then it might not have been real. You could test any memories you're unsure of that way, actually, since constructed memories are more likely to be missing unconscious visceral details. In my experience, it's possible to tell the difference between a memory that's being evoked by smell/music/etc versus one you're just remembering by conscious thought, the former has more... hard to describe. Force? Push? Depth? It's less controlled.

Another combo to try might be cave + fresh neumono blood + sweat + your hive + fear, to see if that calls up whatever situation got you your previous injuries and the plush and notes. Try variations of that combination with forest in place of cave, as well, in case it happened outside, and a version with gunpowder (or whatever modern firearms or explosives actually use) smell added too, since it seems there was some violence.
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No. 860011 ID: bfb318
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860011

Before I wake up, I think of an idea. Since a memory was triggered from hearing a quote that was repeated, I should make an effort in trying to recreate more of my surroundings during the missing memories to see if I can't replicate the same thing.

While in the dream, I attempt to will the situation around me. Remembering the smell of salikai, a cave, and being wet does replicate much of the same memory. I then do the same but with blood, sweat, fear, and being somewhat wounded.

I'm asleep. Rather, I remember being asleep? I'm running, but I'm not doing any of it myself. There's a bad feeling surrounding all of this, but I don't think I'm fully aware of it.
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No. 860012 ID: bfb318
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860012

I wake up before I get a chance to take the idea further. Okei woke up a few moments earlier, and she, too, will take the opportunities to punch things in my dreams later.

It's dawn, or maybe a bit after, since the clouds may be making it look darker than the time would imply. For now, I search around for my backpack to get the drugs. I re-read the directions to be sure, and take the pills with a small food bar, as prescribed.

>"Good morning, Likol and Okei." I hear the Alison on the laptop, who I've started to think of as L-Alison. She waited until I swallowed the pills to speak. "It's going to rain heavily, today, so you should stay indoors."
>"Ehhh only if you let me play some video games." says Okei.

I shouldn't leave anyway, at least not until I confirm what kind of effect these pills have. The side effects are long, though expected.

>"Likol?"
"Hold on."
>"Likol?"
"Hold on."

I'll sit in bed while I wait. I notice Okei and Alison are staring at me.

"What?"
>"You've been sitting there motionless for like 30 minutes!" says Okei.
"I just got up a couple of minutes ago. I said to hold on, L-Alis - wait, was it you, or G-Alison?"
>"Me!" says Alison, through my goggle speakers. "Do you not remember?"
"I do, it just felt... like it all happened at once. I think I remember Okei moving around, some, too, and... hm. There's an experience some people have where they're woken up by an alarm in the middle of the night. They want to be up, but in their sleep deprived state, they just turn off the alarm and go back to bed without even realizing it. It's only in the morning, when they overslept, that they vaguely remember turning the alarm off and not even thinking about getting up. This was like that. Except instead of turning off the alarm, it was sitting in bed. For half an hour. Waiting. Okei, what does my empathy feel like?"
>"Well it was like you were stale bread, but now it's more normal? And the other empathy is gone!"
>"I was kind of worried." says G-Alison. "For a moment, your heart rate went up a bit, and it looked like you were trying to get out of bed."

I sort of remember that. I can't remember why I was trying to get out of bed so quickly.
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No. 860015 ID: 3ce125

>>860012
Wait a minute. In your recovered memory, you had a guitar... but when you woke up in the forest shortly after (we know the timeframe because of the shrapnel wound), you didn't have it. That implies the guitar wasn't really yours. I think the Salikai were trying to mindwipe you into the guitar-player while using the guitar as a prop, then your hive rescued you and pulled you out of there and back into the forest.
...there are goggles on the ground. They were dying around you.

Hard to say why you tried to get out of bed. Ask if they were talking during those 30 minutes and if they said anything right before you tried to get up. If they did, please repeat it.
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No. 860016 ID: 7fad5d

Confirm with them that you actually took your medicine and that wasn't a hallucination. If not, tell them to make you do so.
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No. 860018 ID: 3abd97

>>860011
Goggles could be symbolic of your hive mates, or maybe AIs, with your more recent association of Alison with one.

You've got a head wound, and someone taller than you is pulling you along. Grey. Is there anyone tall and grey in your hive? Or who was important in your past?

Not your usual clothes, and you have an instrument, like the alternate version you saw in your hallucination.

>what do
Ask the others if you took your meds. If not, take your meds.

In fact, you should put the Alisons on tracking med taking and keeping track of when you're due. Promote Okei from therapy-animal to pill dispenser so you can't screw up and lose them, or ditch them during an episode.
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No. 860030 ID: 91ee5f

>>860011
I think I get it.

You got caught trying to escape through the river in the cave. And then a predator was used to alter you to the point that you thought you always used to play guitar and you’ve never done anything with the CAI. But your hivemates found out and rescued you before your personality and memories could be completely overwritten by the guitar personality and memories. And from the looks of things, there was most likely a bunch of shooting involved and possibly your hivemates were dying all around you, while trying to protect you and help you escape.

I also think it’s safe to say that the hand that’s leading you down that hallway belongs to Quokko, your Queen.
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No. 860033 ID: 15a025

Double check the side effects of that medication.
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No. 860035 ID: 2efe4b

Well, your brain glitching out is sort of to be expected at this point. We just want to find out why, what causes it and how to counter it.

Let's try to reconstruct events, first.

Following the line from the Vanski memory to that one, my guess is that you were taken to have your mind altered, and your hive broke in and rescued you halfway through. You were in a sort of trance. If I'm interpreting right, then your ability to recognize people was impeded, or some command or continuing effect tried to erase their presence - that's why everything about them that could specifically identify them (fur colour, face, clothes, etc) was removed, except for the goggles, which are uniform for all of your hive and so not an individual trait. One person was directly touching you and you were staring at their hand, so you remember that. You remember the location, and you remember the blood.

Those are probably the same clothes you were wearing earlier, assuming the sleeves and the lower edge of the pants got torn at some point. So you didn't get the opportunity to get more clothes. That implies a short timeframe between you getting rescued and getting outside. That's backed up by blood being used to write that note that was with the laptop. You didn't seem to be missing anything that you originally escaped with. So... you hive grabbed the items you had taken, which had been confiscated from you, gave them back to you with some extra zeny and a towel, plus a note, and pushed you out on your way. It's possible that at some point you became more conscious and active again, but your ability to form long-term memories was still impeded.

Your unremarkable belongings might have been just dropped somewhere, but the CAI box and the laptop were probably taken elsewhere immediately when they were taken from you, and in whatever time it took to imprison you, to call in the experiment to be done with you, set it up and start doing it, something might have started being done with those two items - maybe some criminal AI uploaded into either or both of them. That would create some time for the lesser Alison AI to be created and distributed, too.

The question then is, what happened to the rest of your hive? They did something that SERIOUSLY pissed off their bosses. If you were able to escape, they should have tried to escape too. If they really wanted to ensure the CAI's escape, maybe they would have stayed behind to cause trouble, or they might have scattered to confuse pursuers, or less hopefully they might have been captured, but if you managed to get out in your condition then at least one other hivemate of yours should have been able to get out too, and they should have stayed with you.

... Maybe they did, but had to hide from you for some reason? Maybe there's some trigger in your mind that reacts to meeting another member of your own hive? It'd be nice to think that a hivemate of yours was nearby and following you this whole time. It would have to be an older hivemate, to be skilled enough. It could even be Quokko herself. That would explain the weird dreams that seemed like somehow remote sharing with her, if she was actually sleeping nearby. Could sleeping empathy have a longer range than waking empathy? If it shifts frequency it might. That would be a nice thought.

Too nice to entertain for long, though. Too unlikely. How would she have followed through all that vehicle hopping? A tracker of some kind? Not a good bet, or a safe one to think about too much.

I'll assume you did actually take the pills. Count the holes in the foil. They're supposed to suppress brain function, so your brain might have had to take some time to reroute itself, and that could explain it? That would make them quite fast-acting, though. But neumono do have a fast metabolism, which implies fast digestion and distribution. You were waking up, too, so you might have dropped them on yourself in the middle of your brain shifting gears. Ask Okei and Alison how long ago you took the pills, how long from that until you zoned out, and how long after waking up you took them. Re-check the side effects for any possible symptoms like what you just experienced, too.

As for your heart rate and trying to move, maybe your other empathy noticed itself being put to sleep and panicked a bit? So it wasn't you who was trying to get out of bed, exactly.
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No. 860048 ID: de6d84

"...What did I do since I woke up?"
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No. 860081 ID: d36af7

>>860030
That would neatly explain why the second empathy is concentrated in his arms: it's built around muscle memory of guitar playing.
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No. 860119 ID: 10c408

Crack a joke about the whole thing, lighten the mood a little.

"well I suppose staring into space while my brain is on the fritz is a side effect."

Pass the pill bottle to Okei, confirm that you've taken your first dose properly.

Now ask G-alison how she was able to monitor your heart rate.
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No. 860140 ID: 526564

>>860018
This.
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No. 860141 ID: a633c6

>>860012
Well, you did have a nightmare where you were presumably being shot at or chased, that's why you wanted to get up. Your lost time is probably an effect of the drugs.
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No. 860412 ID: bfb318
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860412

I try to think of the dream. Quokko isn't the only predominantly light-furred neumono in my hive, but it was most likely her leading me along. Still, it didn't feel like it was her so much as the hive that led me through the hall, just represented by Quokko.

"I guess staring into space is one of the side effects."

"..."

"Alison, I did take the pills, right?"
>"You did. Do you not remember?"
"I don't. Okei, can you take care of feeding me pills?"
>"'cause I'm your therapy animal?"
"No, I'll promote you to pill dispenser."
>"Harrr. Fine okay as long as you don't get all weird about them like you do with your goggles."
"Did I do something weird?"
>"You are weird!"
"... right. Alison, please keep track of the amount of pills I'm taking."
>"I know how to count!" says Okei.

I show her the list of side effects, emphasizing the importance of not messing up dosages. She can't read any of it, but I double check it. It feels more like a list of recognized types of psychosis than just a list of side effects to a specific drug. Loss of memory both short and long term, blackouts, de-realization, loss of consciousness, out of body experiences, hallucinations and so on are all common. I ask Alison, and apparently I seemed lucid for about 15 minutes after taking the pills, then I seemed to zone out for the next 15.

Other than the moment of trying to leave my bed, I didn't do anything of note. Okei says my empathy flickered around at that point. It might have been the guitar player noticing what was happening, and panicking.

I'm left to my thoughts.

My hive must have done some kind of extreme action. Maybe we tried to escape. If so, maybe I wasn't the only one who escaped, but I doubt I'm anywhere near my hivemates in that case. It's possible someone could have followed me through the forest, but keeping up with my as I hitchhiked and had my Alison drive me around isn't plausible.
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No. 860413 ID: bfb318
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860413

I look up at the light outside. It's darker? I look at the time. It's evening. There's food wrappers around me. There's vague recollection of what I've been up to, and I don't think I've ever left the room.

I've been studying Alison's coding. Far inside of the code, there's some modified blocks of code that don't follow the same code style as the rest. I read it over.

It's a listener for specific snippets of data. These include pictures, audio, spoken phrases, series of text, and others. They all trigger a self destruct sequence. If Alison ran across any one of these snippets, then it would explain what happened to the missing Alisons.

That just raises a new question. How did she run across triggers like that? The triggers are long winded nonsense passwords and noise that mean nothing to regular people. It wouldn't be randomly generated on the internet in a million years.
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No. 860414 ID: 13fded

So there are secrets spread around the internet that this Alison isn't allowed to know. That is worrisome.
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No. 860420 ID: 2d1231

>>860413

Key-phrases potentially serving as a decryption or override. Maybe someone inside the CAI modified (or self-modified) knowing the danger of Vanski and his---------------- fuck.

No, wait?

hugs.exe and all that modified the original file, right? So maybe it is a guard against what the ORA or whatever they are might be doing?

Can we pull up any samples?
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No. 860421 ID: 86eb65

This is something you can not have Alison look into. She would blow up trying.

You need to try and find out if you can track down where those particular Alisons were at when they erased themselves. If you can do that you might be able to find out what website or database is dangerous.

Also look at these triggers closely. What sort of triggers exactly and what they are really for. Stuff that would be a good idea to have? Like a trigger set to have her blow up if she gets to close to a criminal server? Or stuff that would hinder your efforts?

Having a long nonsense password implies a backdoor trigger designed to keep her in particular away from something. Unless its a specific one your "organization" uses.

Honestly the trigger pictures might tell more of a tale unless they are white noise sort of things.
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No. 860423 ID: 3d2d5f

>>860413
The random phrases are (1) security, meant to keep an AI away from restricted areas. Whoever designed her would embed them in things they wanted kept secure. Or (2) a kill switch. The triggers can be introduced to her in the wild if encountered. Or both.

The question is: is this something the CAI had built in? Something your hive built in? Or something Vanski or OPA built in? Does the work or style remind you of anyone's code you've seen before?

...how unethical would it be to create a fork of G-Alison to test if this works the way you think it does?

Are you capable of patching this weakness out? If you are, we have to make a decision if you should.
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No. 860427 ID: bfb318
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860427

"Alisons, I found something that might be harmful to you. Promise to look away."
>"I promise."
>"I promise."

I pull up a couple of triggers. Random assortments of letters in one, and a random grid of pixels in another. There's no apparent meaning in any of them.

>hugs.exe and all that modified the original file, right?
No. Although it was made with the goggle operating system in mind, it's a standalone AI program.

I close the triggers. The code here isn't anything special. It doesn't matter when or where she runs across it. If she processes it directly, she self destructs. That makes her vulnerable. Between that and the switch into an unfamiliar style of code, I believe this was added as a security measure by OPA. I can't imagine Vanski or his associates would approve of an AI made by a CAI without rigorous study. I doubt they finished vetting it, either, but if my hive managed to get the CAI out, then we could have managed hugs.exe while we were at it.

The trigger has to be processed in a precise sequence, so I doubt it would work if G-Alison were to look at my laptop with the image file open. I'd rather not risk it, as it would trigger the self destruct if she happens to recreate the image file as it is.

>How unethical would it be to create a fork of G-Alison to test if this works the way you think it does?
I don't know, but I no longer trust myself with ethics.

"I'd like all Alisons to update their locations more often. This harmful data may have a common point, and been laid out to prevent Alisons from getting to certain servers or files."
>"That's strange." says G-Alison. "Since none of those Alisons should have been searching around for anything special."
"Yes, so I'd like better updates."

>Are you capable of patching this weakness out?
I think so. I might not have the right software to recompile the code from scratch, but even if I can't make future Alisons without this weakness, there might be a way to override this module for existing Alisons.

I consider it. It isn't a small decision.

Something... is dripping?
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No. 860430 ID: bfb318
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860430

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No. 860434 ID: 3d2d5f

>>860430
That's not a kind of wildlife I recognize. Do you, Likol?

Might also help to get Alison to confirm you're not hallucinating.
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No. 860437 ID: 6780f5

Just make a blackbox that strips parts of the harmful data out for them that they can filter all their data through before it reaches them, and that can put it back in for the output. Also, yeah, doublecheck that you're not hallucinating.
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No. 860441 ID: bfb318
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860441

I flick my goggles down.

>"Likol, gun!"

Not a hallucination, and I'm not sure how relieved I should be. I look for my weapon. I don't make any sudden moves, but my look is frantic. This is a padfooted treecracker, and they can move like lightning. I misplaced my gun. Alison, either noticing that or just helping anyway, puts an arrow up and highlights my gun.

The treecracker runs away once it sees me pick up my gun. I chase it out of the building while it wails. I hear similar wails from deeper in the forest. They move in packs, though often split up to cover wide areas.

I shoot at it, but miss on purpose. Treecrackers have a sense of vengeance, and I don't want its pack to come for revenge. This should be enough to keep it away.

>"I'm sorry!" says Alison. "The data here must be out of date. The wildlife was supposed to be tamer in this area."
"It was tame enough to recognize a gun."
>"Is Okei still upstairs?"
"Yes."

I think she's playing a video game. She noticed my empathy and gunshots, yet didn't feel a need to get involved.

As for Alison, I'll equip her with a data filter. Data she looks for will pass through the filter, and if the filter catches any of that data, it'll block out the trigger data and warn Alison.
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No. 860443 ID: 3d2d5f

>data filter
Ignoring how ethical it is, you probably want an Alison fork to test if that patch actually protects her, or else we risk losing all of them if you think they're protected but aren't.

>aggressive wildlife
You might want Alison to buy some drones and/or stationary cameras to keep watch with.

>She noticed my empathy and gunshots, yet didn't feel a need to get involved.
Scaring off wildlife probably isn't too uncommon where she lived.
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No. 860446 ID: 91ee5f

>>860441
Isn’t there a door that’s supposed to be locked?! Or did it figure out how to open and/or unlock the door?!

Actually, since these camping grounds have been abandoned, maybe those padfooted treecrackers have been using it as a nest? That could explain why it just walked in like it owned the place.
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No. 860452 ID: bfb318
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860452

I check the door. The lock is jammed, but it was closed. Since I didn't hear the door break down, the treecracker must have used the doorknob.

These houses haven't been used as a nesting location, but probably have seen plenty of wildlife taking temporary shelter from the rain.

>Make a fork with Alison
Hm....

"Alison, I'd like to create a filter for you, to shield you from a kill switch."
>"Is that what happened to the other Alisons?"
"I don't know for sure, but it's possible."
>"I'd like a shield, then, if you don't mind."
"Okay. I'd like to be able to test it, too, but the only way I think I can..."
>"Is to make another Alison and test it?"
"Yes."
>"Do it, Likol, please."
"Okay, thank you."

G-Alison makes her fork, and I put it on a phone and test the filter. It appears to work, so the Alison hops off the phone to go join the other Alisons in money making, the filter will be carefully distributed to the other Alisons, and my conscience remains... not worse.

"Please order some cameras to monitor this area. Also a bell, which I would like to attach to the door so that noise is made when something enters."
>"I'll get a bell! There are cameras, but the lights were off, so I couldn't see at all. I'll order a few long lasting lamps too, so that this doesn't happen again."
"Where did the cameras come from?"
>"I delivered them yesterday, after you requested them! Oh, and I think I'll be able to get you a jammer tomorrow."
"What? Already?"

I look at the date.

May 7th. I've been here for 5 days now.
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No. 860457 ID: 6780f5

You'll probably want to inform her that you've lost the last five days and ask for a description of what you've been doing.
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No. 860461 ID: 91ee5f

>>860452
>Jammer
When exactly did we ask for that? And aren’t jammers kinda big and.....not portable?

The benefit of having a jammer will help us hide from our pursuers. The only downside I can see is if something goes wrong and the guitar empathy starts to take over or something, Okei won’t be able to tell something is wrong while the jammer is active.

>I’ve been here for 5 days.
Look on the bright side, it’s best to keep taking this medicine and having the side effects hit you while you’re not moving, compared to getting hit by the side effects while your moving and suddenly “waking up” in an unfamiliar location.

Did we ever get that email from the doctor? What did it say? Better yet, can someone please tell you what’s been going on the last 5 days? Because you honestly don’t really know what you’ve been doing for the last 5 days.
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No. 860462 ID: 3d2d5f

>>860452
Tell Alison you think the meds are messing with your perception of time. It doesn't feel like you'd been here that long.

How much of the meds are left? When they run out are you cured, or are you supposed to stay on them indefinitely to keep your alternate suppressed?

...did you forget telling Alison to swap her outfit back, or have all the forks just gone back to default? In the later case, that might represent an actual preference on her part, even if she's been willing to go along with what you wanted.
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No. 860467 ID: 10c408

...Tell Alison that you've been losing track of time. Try and find Okei as well.
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No. 860469 ID: bfb318
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860469

"I've lost my memory in the last 5 days, Alison. I don't remember the last 4 at all."
>"Don't worry, it comes back to you in bits and pieces. You usually lose it again, but I think once you either stop needing the drugs, or get used to them, your memory will come back. Here's the list of events."

Alison's recorded what she's brought in, what Okei and I have requested, and what we've been up to.

I've been looking through code for days, now, and slept more often than not. Okei doesn't think that we've dreamshared at all since the first night, although she has had weird dreams. I haven't remembered any dreams since our dreamshare at any point in time.

We might not need a jammer out here, but I'd like it for when I go back into town. It's nice to have empathic privacy, and while jammers are large, they're no larger than a big backpack.

The brain scan results have been returned. It confirms in detail what the doctor explained to me already, and doesn't supply new information. The dosage should remain the same, and he reiterates the importance of resting and keeping my life as predictable and easy as possible. According to the scan, I'm around 204 years old, with a margin of error of 10 years, which fits my age.

"How long am I supposed to be on the drugs for?"
>"2 weeks, at least. Even if it feels like the other empathy is completely gone, there's a chance that it could come back if it's allowed to regenerate. So it's important to go at least 2 weeks straight, or up to 4 weeks if you want to be very sure it's gone."

>Alison's outfit
G-Alison is still in a sweater, so the fork must have reverted to a default. I don't know if that's part of the software, or Alison's preference. I notice that L-Alison is in a casual tanktop and skirt, now, so she's at least decent in front of Okei and myself.

Okei feels like she's being berated, so I go up to check on her. I hear the tail end of Alison telling her that she should be keeping a more careful eye on me, and Okei telling Alison that I had it under control. It must be about the treecracker.

She's laying down, playing some video games. Part of Alison's report showed that since I was working on a laptop so often, Okei got her own cheap laptop. It isn't connected to the internet, but Alison did make Okei promise to keep the wireless on so that L-Alison can swap between the laptops.
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No. 860470 ID: 6780f5

How long will it take for the dye to start wearing out?
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No. 860471 ID: 3d2d5f

>It must be about the treecracker.
You sure? That could have happened days ago, and if it prompted you to order cameras that are already here, it probably did.

Alison is likely more concerned about something recent more recent.

>what do
Ask Okei how she's doing, appologize for being so out of it.

How's she and Alison getting on when she's not being a naggy-pants... hrm snakes don't wear pants.
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No. 860476 ID: c2051e

Go talk to Okei about what's been up.

>>860470
Months, generally.
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No. 860480 ID: 2efe4b

Time to spend some time with Okei, I think. You may have been neglecting her. Maybe ask her what she knows about wildlife around here, and fill her in on what she needs to know? And then spend some time on her education.
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No. 860481 ID: 91ee5f

>>860469
Do you even have 2 or 4 weeks? Or do you think you’re allowed to take time to get rid of this second empathy?

Reaching Arza is important, but if this second empathy is going to get in the way, then you should definitely wait until you get rid of it.
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No. 860485 ID: 2efe4b

If you have time to spare, you could possibly try to construct some program that you could plug into the Forbidden Laptop and have it report back what happens. You could do it with an Alison, but you'd have to get rid of her after, which we don't want to do. Could you maybe use bits and pieces copied from her code to make something simpler than her, though? All it would need is to be able to look and to hold off anything trying to attack/alter it just for long enough to say what it sees. You'd need to make double sure to disable any wireless connections while that's being done. Actually, have you opened that laptop up and made sure to take out its wifi transmitter/receiver? That needs to be done too.

Just ask Alison to make sure you're not hyper-focusing on it like you've been doing so much. Making sure Alison is safe needed that kind of haste but you should cool it a bit now.

Also ask Alison if there's another safe spot to go live in she's found. You should probably move every week, just in case, so if 5 days have passed you should get ready to go.
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No. 860491 ID: e1c8f7

Go sit with the girl. Ask if Allison has been keeping her entertained. Apologize for an unexciting stay here.
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No. 860497 ID: 86eb65

Honestly we should probably just spend the next two weeks taking our pills and relaxing.

Check with Alison and tell her your plan to relax and play video games with Okei. If she has anything important that has come up have her tell you now.

This mess has helped prove that this Alison is not a full sentient one. If this was real Alison you would have woken up in a penthouse somewhere rolling in money next to Arza. She needs your input to get things done. She does not seem to have as much initiative as a real person would.

Talk to Okei and see how she is doing. She already knows you are a mess but get her to agree to watch out for you a bit better over the next weeks (you might have asked already)

Then play some video games with her and chill unless Alison has something you need to check.

Relax and try to let the drugs do there thing.
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No. 860500 ID: de6d84

Go play some games with Okei for a while.
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No. 860523 ID: bfb318
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860523

The dye should last a good while, but even so, Alison has been spotchecking my body periodically for any regrown fur that's missing blue.

"Sorry I've been out of it, Okei."
>"At least this is supposed to make you better?"
"Hopefully. How have you been getting along with Alison?"
>"She's alright, when she's not getting all mom on me!"
>"Even the mom part where I keep you fed?" asks L-Alison.
>"Moms do that for free, you do that so that I'll do what you say! It's bribing me."
>"No, I'm bribing you with video games, laptops and more expensive treats. I won't let you starve."
>"I'll starve if I want!"
>"I'm counting on you not wanting to starve, though."

Judging by the logs, Alison's been tutoring her throughout the day. I've even tutored her on some math on a couple occasions. I'll spare trying to give her lessons now, when this is supposed to be her time off.

"Have you ever seen a treecracker, Okei?"
>"A whatnow?"
"The thing that came into the house."

Alison shows it on screen.

>"What seriously? Man that thing looks cool, I should have gone down to make sure you were okay."
"Please do. You are armed, right?"
>"Yeah." She pats her side where her gun is.
"Alright. We should get moving in a couple of days, by the way."

Since this is her free time, I sit down by her and play co-op games with her.

>Could you maybe use bits and pieces copied from Alison's code to make something simpler than her, to send into the forbidden laptops?
No. Alison looks like one cohesive whole, rather than a stack of modules. I'm sure Alison would still go into the laptop even if it was a suicide mission, but I don't know if I'd want to do that. I will re-confirm that those laptops do have their wireless capability removed.

The game we play is a game Okei's more practiced in than me, so I spend some time dead. I take a moment to make sure Alison is only focusing on finding Arza and getting money. I don't want her poking around dangerous servers, even if I made her immune to those triggers.
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No. 860525 ID: bfb318
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860525

It gets late, and Okei and I decide to get to sleep. I set up the Alisons in their usual spots to keep guard.

I sense Okei, and vice versa, but I don't see her around.

Most of my vision is Glitcher's face.

....

"Wh - "
"Hi."
"What?"
"Stop feeling guilty."
"About what?"
"Stop it."
"I think I have good re - "
"No. Bad."
"You're not even the real glitcher."
"Buddy. You know that's a low blow for me."

...

"I said stop."
>"Am I getting in on a personal moment?" Okei asks from somewhere, getting mentally prepared to punch glitcher.
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No. 860526 ID: 3ce125

>>860525
Tell him you refuse to let go of your guilt. It is part of what drives you forwards. To make up for your past crimes, you will save them. You're not going to become a guitar-playing layabout that doesn't care about anything just so you won't have to feel guilty anymore.
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No. 860527 ID: 0d45a9

Why are you even in my head, Glitcher? What do you want, and what's your goal here?

If his answer is unsatisfactory, have Okei punch him.
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No. 860528 ID: 2d1231

>>860525

You know what?

Ask him point blank why he cares if we feel guilty or not.

I mean, obviously he DOES to some degree, since he's interrupted our dreaming twice now, but there's got to be something more important than just making us feel better.

Besides, he's the Glitcher. So clearly there's something. Otherwise it could be Alison or some other AI we've seen, you know?
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No. 860529 ID: 86eb65

Guilt motivates people Glitcher. I am not going to beat myself up to much over my mistakes but I will do my best to fix them.

Honestly even if I was not guilty about things I would still do everything I could to help you. Because your people are worth the effort.

That being said I am going to try and ignore you as much as possible in my dreams on the off chance you are part of the something Vanski put in my head to try and lobotomize me. I am much more comfortable talking with the real you.

Tell Okei she can punch him if he tries anything. And that the original is a good friend you are trying to save.
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No. 860530 ID: 10c408

"You aren't the real deal. If the medicine wasn't working you wouldn't even be trying to bully me in my dreams with his appearance, you fraud!"

Now rip his metaphorical face off and let's see who's behind the mask!
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No. 860531 ID: 22d3a4

Glitcher, I killed you and your friends more than some dictators. Do you forgive me?

Also in addition to having normal fur, you appear to be very small. Or maybe glitcher is large.
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No. 860549 ID: bfb318
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860549

"I'm not going to stop feeling guilty when I've killed you and your friends more than dictators. What do you even care?"

He shrugs, I think.
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No. 860550 ID: bfb318
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860550

Then gets punched in the face.

>"Why does this annoying guy keep coming up?" Okei asks.
"If my Queen represents my hive, then I think that this is the guy that represents my work, now."
>"Your research is annoying as hell?"
"No, but... it's a long story. The real one is a friend, and I'd rather talk to him again than this one. At least his forgiveness would mean something."
>"Is the real one less annoying?"
"The real one, uh..." I hesitate. Although he is my friend, he could get overbearing when excited.
"Wow, dude." the Glitcher's voice comes out muffled.
"The real one is better, still."
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No. 860552 ID: bfb318
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860552

Glitcher moves back, but doesn't dissolve.

"Ok, look, I'm not your real buddy, we know that. But I'm not your enemy either. Just stop looking in your dreams for answers. They're too weird. I'm off. You're off. Anything you find here is off, no matter how lucid you get. And that's when you're normal. Right now you're so drugged up you'd make a druggie shake their head in disapproval."

"So let me say something more helpful."

"Let others do what they want to do to help."

"You get some rest."

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No. 860554 ID: c88e6d

>>860525
"A different dream-guy I know is yelling at me to stop feeling bad for unintentionally killing zillions of AIs. I still feel bad about it."
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No. 860556 ID: 3abd97

>>860523
>The dye should last a good while, but even so, Alison has been spotchecking my body periodically for any regrown fur that's missing blue.
It's not like what color you are while you're playing hermit in the woods is really relevant. If OPA finds you, they aren't gonna back off. "Wait this guy's blue our bad!"

>>860550
>Glitcher a friend
Dude you barely knew him and he spent most the time you knew him either doing impossible things or making a mess.

>>860552
...it's possible whatever scrambled my head is off by the drugs too, though. And if the information I need is in the empathy being surprised by the drugs it might be gone forever once I'm cured.
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No. 860557 ID: 2efe4b

"Glitcher. First, even if I stopped feeling guilty, it wouldn't change my actions. If I'm in place to do something that needs doing, I have a responsibility to do it. Second: The fact that I feel guilty is reassuring. I'm old and I've seen and done a lot of very tough things, and my brain has been experimented on by some very bad people. If I didn't feel guilty, that would be a reason to be very worried: as it is, I can still claim to be a good person, maybe. Hopefully. And third: If I shouldn't feel guilty for something like this, who ever should for anything?"

"I know I can't let it run me ragged, or make me too desperate. But I can't do nothing, either. I can only try my best to find the objective best thing to do. Like a scientist."

"... Who do you think wants to help?"
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No. 860558 ID: 91ee5f

>>860552
>Glitcher telling you to stop.
As far as you know, this Glitcher could actually be part of whatever the OPA did to you and is trying to convince you not to take the drugs so that the guitar empathy can start taking over again!
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No. 860560 ID: 3ce125

>>860552
Ah, I know why you're dreaming of Glitcher. He represents your work, and you've been working.
Anyway, your dreams don't matter much at this point since you think you have all the information you need. Ask what he would suggest you do to "rest". His response should give you some insight.

Hmm, I wonder if Alison could set up a meeting with Arza while you're taking your pills, then you head to the meeting point once you've recovered? ...hey what if the self-destruct code is there to prevent Alison from contacting Arza?
Also it kindof looked like there was something in the static image. A vague shape amongst the noise. Maybe you can clear up the image a bit to see if there's anything hidden in there?
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No. 860561 ID: c88e6d

>>860552
Dream Glitcher Red has a point. You are kinda killing yourself slowly. You should rely on your VAST NETWORK OF AI COMPANIONS and Okei to protect you while you get over your drug-dosages.

Just remember to give the Alisons the Shield Code first, then relax and co-op videogames with Okei after you move to the next shelter spot.
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No. 860564 ID: 4a23fd

"Fine. I'm not going to take a slower pace, though. I'll fully relax when the CAI is safe."
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No. 860573 ID: bfb318
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860573

>Friend? You barely knew Glitcher
I guess it doesn't take much to make friends with me. When we had the time, I did enjoy hearing him talk about the people in block C, and I think he liked talking about them to me.

"I doubt I can rest completely, but how do you suggest I rest?"
"Uh I just said, let others worry about the heavy stuff. You just... don't even know how to rest, huh. Just take your meds and lay in bed or something."

>What if the self-destruct code is there to prevent Alison from contacting Arza?
That would be the first place I'd think such triggers are intentionally put, but Alison has been insisting that the Alisons that disappeared weren't doing anything like that.

Maybe I'll look for hidden messages or images inside of the triggers since Alison can't do - "

"What're you doing. Stop the thinking or stop the drugs, you can't do both."
>"He can though he just sucks at it!" says Okei. "Plus he won't let me do anything to help him."
"Can you or do you do anything besides punch people?"
>"Yeah!"
"Like?"
>"I dunno but I could think of something! Except he doesn't even trust me with a gun."
"I trust you with my pills."
>"Yeah while Alison watches to make sure I don't mess up."
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No. 860579 ID: c88e6d

>>860573
Wait.... You DID give Okei a gun.

Something's not right.
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No. 860581 ID: 3abd97

>>860573
I did trust you not to shoot you with your gun. And you're probably more trustworthy with a gun than I am while I'm so messed up on drugs I can't remember the day.

>Plus he won't let me do anything to help him.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'll try to think of more ways to let you help.

Obviously the illiteracy and lack of a technical education limits computer tasks, but we have Alison(s) for those anyways.
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No. 860582 ID: 10c408

"I... Did trust you with a gun. If I didn't then why did i even give you a lesson on gun safety?"

Try and emulate/remember the experience you had when you were being dragged around by your hand with all the blood and violence, see how the two react.
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No. 860584 ID: bfb318
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860584

"But I did give you a gun."
>"And you're always worried about me accidentally shooting you with it!"
"That's just... paranoia. I think you know how to use a gun."

>Try to emulate/remember the experience with the blood and violence
I can't seem to focus well enough to change my surroundings.

"I'll try to think of ways that you can help, if you want to."
>"I agree with this guy that you can't think and drug at the same time. I'll just wake up and think of something myself."
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No. 860586 ID: 86eb65

Yeah you both are right.

I have been grasping at straws with my dreams because I did not have anything else to grasp at. But I think I know roughly what happened during my escape now so should relax a bit.

And Okei you are right. Talk with Alison if you need anything and keep us safe. I am counting on you. Try to keep me distracted with video games and relaxing stuff for the next few weeks ok?
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No. 860587 ID: c2051e

Hug Okei and pat her head. She's already helped you deal with dreams a hell of a lot, staying in the dream is a good way to keep helping.
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No. 860593 ID: 6780f5

Seeing how you can turn a CPU and other unavoidable computer parts into AM-radio transmitters through software alone, keeping the wifi off won't stop something actually trying to get out.
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No. 860595 ID: 3abd97

>>860584
>I'll just wake up and think of something myself.
Ruffle her head in that infuriating way children hate.

"Okay, Okei, Okay."
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No. 860611 ID: 91ee5f

Don’t give up the drugs until you completely get rid of that guitar empathy! You don’t need to risk it coming back and completely taking over!

>Okei with gun
Tell her that if you honestly didn’t trust her with a gun, then you wouldn’t let her have the one she’s got right now!
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No. 860618 ID: 3cc68c

Hug Okei and thank her for everything.
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No. 860627 ID: 10c408

Headpat the smol girl and apologize for your paranoia. Working for criminals takes it's toll.

anyways.. So, likol. Why're you dreaming about the ring shell?
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No. 860635 ID: bfb318
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860635

"Okay, Okei, okay. Talk with Alison if you need anything. I'm going to keep taking the drugs."
>"Psh I've been learning how to use computers!"

I ruffle her head as I have with my younger hivemates.

Okei makes an angry hissing noise, and goes to wake up.

I try to relax in my dream. I think Okei was helping me stay lucid, because I feel myself slipping into a dreamless sleep.

>Why're you dreaming about the ring shell?
Probably because I'm in the mood for nightmares, if I had to take a guess.
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No. 860636 ID: bfb318
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860636

There's beeping. It started off small, but it's getting louder and louder. I wake up.

>"Likol?"
"Erf."
>"Okei took some food and your backpack. She just went upstairs, but even so, I'm worried about her sleeping up there where I can't see. She didn't explain why she wanted to move upstairs either. Do you mind going up to talk to her?"
"Yeah. I mean, I will."

It takes another few seconds to process what she said, and just wake up. Okei is still in empathy range, at least, but I've no idea what she's up to. She doesn't like that I woke up.
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No. 860637 ID: bfb318
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860637

I don't like that she doesn't like that, so I crawl out of bed.

She's on a laptop. She wants to be left alone, but she's entranced by something on the screen. Something she thinks is stupid. Whatever it is, it's green, and she looks at it like she'd look at some... people?
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No. 860638 ID: bfb318
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860638

That's Raush's laptop.
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No. 860640 ID: 0d45a9

Whelp, it was kinda inevitable she'd start snooping at some point. You'd do the same if the positions were reversed, right? Don't judge her for it.

I guess try to express that you're not mad, and try to answer any questions she has. The Pandora's box of questions has been opened.
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No. 860641 ID: 86eb65

Carefully and slowly go next to her and see what is up.

Its to late to jump on it and stop things. If that thing sent out a message with your location its to late to stop it.

That appears to be the Cai's face. And not our Cai.

Offhandedly remark that you bought her a computer for a reason.
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No. 860642 ID: 2efe4b

Ok. First: Block your ears. Whatever is on that laptop could know whatever code phrases that were planted in you. Stop yourself from hearing anything and don't look at the screen. Rely on reading Okei's empathy for communication.

Second: remember. The note said not to CONNECT the laptop to anything, not to not activate it. Also you didn't tell Okei to stay away from that laptop. So don't be mad, and don't panic too much. And you said you would double check that you disabled its wireless, right? So that means you think you disabled it before, right? It's ok. Hopefully. Tell Alison to shut off her wireless capabilities.

Calmly tell Okei there was a reason you weren't using that laptop, and could she come downstairs just for a moment so you can talk to her about that privately?
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No. 860644 ID: 3ce125

>>860638
Oh my god is that the CAI Block?! She connected whatever it is to the laptop. The laptop you were instructed not to connect to ANYTHING.
Oh god what if the dream sharing allowed your parasitic empathy to transfer onto her? Or some hidden instructions otherwise got into her head?

Demand to know what she's doing. Did she just let the CAI into the laptop? You better goddamn hope that they were powerful enough to overpower whatever trap might have been set on that thing.
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No. 860646 ID: 3abd97

Just go right to the point, treat her seriously.

Okei, that laptop had a note in blood warning against connecting it to anything, and I haven't swept it for traps, hidden code, or covert transmitters that could lead people back to us.

Alison, shut down our pipe to the internet. By crashing a drone into it, if necessary.

...you found another AI?
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No. 860648 ID: 3abd97

>CAI
We only have one set of CAI blocks, and they weren't connected to this laptop. Unless there's a second CAI in play, or Okei managed to hook the CAI up, the =] face isn't a CAI.
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No. 860649 ID: 2efe4b

Ok if she actually connected the CAI block to that laptop that's a whole other issue. Not sure what you could do about it now, but you need to find out, and first is to find out from Okei exactly what she did, why and in what order. Safely. Which means out of earshot of the laptop.

Did you not leave the note saying not to connect it to anything where it was?
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No. 860654 ID: 2d1231

>>860638

Oh.

Fuck.
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No. 860680 ID: 3abd97

>>860646
Some clarifying on this, but it's important to tell Okei what you're afraid of, and why rather than just berating her or going into a panic.
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No. 860707 ID: c88e6d

>>860638
Politely ask if Okei connected that to anything. Then, since the damage is already done, ask what she's found out since you don't know either.
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No. 860709 ID: bfb318
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860709

I've kept the CAI block under my shirt. Until I removed it at some point, because it's gone now. I see the wire connecting the CAI into the laptop. The laptop isn't that fast, and the CAI is bottlenecked by the wire it's connected to, but it's still too fast of a wire.

The laptop had a note saying not to connect it to anything. Did that disappear? I don't know.

"Alison! Shut down the internet!" I yell to the laptop downstairs.

There's no response. G-Alison notes that the light downstairs caused by L-Alison's laptop has shut off. I almost think to block my ears, but if I had any kind of sleeper-agent level command phrases, the CAI could have activated them before I even saw the CAI blocks.

>"Likol's behind us, isn't he?" I hear the robotic CAI voice call out.
>"Yeah. He's probably mad at me or something dumb."
>"Well, this was a bold move of you!"
>"Kind of dumb, honestly."
>"The kind of dumb thing we'd do."
"I'm not mad. I'm..."

Disturbed? Panicking? My feelings are a mess, but trying to put it into words would just be misleading.

"I'm thinking it's too late to prevent whatever damage was possible."
>"I've been on this thing for like half a minute! I barely said hi to a bunch of voices, let alone figure out what's going on."
"What they can do is measured in nanoseconds. Imagine thousands of AI's like Alison, but with different personalities. That's what you just plugged in. Did you not see the note to not connect this laptop to anything?"
>"Uh, no?"

She's honest. Where did it go? G-Alison doesn't know either. It could have slipped out at some point in time.

"I - Alison got you a laptop to avoid this, you know. What did you do?"
>"I took your backpack to figure out what the heck was on your laptop! I turned it on. It looked okay, so I plugged in this hard drive so I could have Alison take a look. Then the laptop started talking to me."
>"We're just happy to see you got hugs.exe." says the CAI.

She thought the CAI blocks were a hard drive?

I'd want to talk to Okei in private for anything in detail, but downstairs isn't good enough. The CAI could isolate our voices in a thunderstorm. I'd have to move far away, or unplug the CAI. That, or just let Okei ask questions.
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No. 860713 ID: c88e6d

>>860709
Just ask Okei questions and ask the CAI if it knows any of what happened, because you've been mindcontrolled by a predator, had foreign consciousness implanted, and you're currently suffering memory loss and hallucinations because of the drugs you're taking to avoid the second consciousness eating your brain.
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No. 860716 ID: 86eb65

Well lets take the precautions that we can take.

Tell Okei to sit there and you will be right back.

Go downstairs and unplug your internet all the way. Inform Alison that the Cai is online and to be careful.

Then head back up and sit with Okei and talk to the Cai. Might as well. If they somehow figured out your position and got word out you wont be able to escape in your condition.

Ask them what they know about the situation. And what they plan to do next.
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No. 860718 ID: 3ce125

>>860709
Okay first off why are they revealing themselves? You expected them to stay quiet no matter what you did to demonstrate they were away from the Salikai.
Second off, are they okay? What happened to you and them? Is the self-destruct code on Alison theirs, or the Salikai's?
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No. 860719 ID: 3ce125

...and can they prove they're the real CAI and not an imitation? You were fooled by a fake CAI once before.
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No. 860721 ID: 0d45a9

Might as well let it listen / talk, if it's got internet (Dunno if it could jury rig a transmitter) we're screwed anyway, the damage is done basically.

Wait, you were responsible for hugs.exe? I thought you couldn't see into the contest blocks?

Okei, this is a CAI, a very powerful and very, very illegal AI system, that can basically make a mockery of modern computer security. It's mostly a black box system. It works, but no one knows how. It was also what I was studying.

My bosses would also want this back at any cost, and would likely brainwash, torture, or kill me if I was caught. They have probably done some of those to my hive already to try and find out where I am.

Given that the damage is done, might as well ask the CAI if it's well, done anything at all yet, other than talk. It's fully capable of lying but worth a shot.

You could also ask if about the HRC files on Raush's laptop, anything on that laptop really. Pandora's box is open after all, might as well get all the benefit you can before shit hits the fan.
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No. 860722 ID: 3abd97

Okay, if you've been properly paranoid about internet access, there's no wireless network connected to the internet the CAI can tap into even if it gets a radio on the laptop working. And assuming anything like current tech, software access isn't enough to make an antenna that can talk to cell networks on a laptop.

We're going to have to scrap and replace every wireless accessible device you have (including the drones) to be sure, but the CAI probably can't have gotten word out. (We might want to pull out batteries from the phones, and to shut down, or shoot down, the drones, in case it compromised one and it's running).

And if it did, like you said, it took nanoseconds, so too late there.

>what do
Cat's out of the bag at this point, and we're either safe or it's too late. Might as well talk things out with Okei and the CAI.

Explain that connecting Alison to them is a bad idea. The CAI might as well be a Predator to a neumono, it has enough hacking and processing power it could change her any way they wanted.

Generally, fill in information or Okei, and see what the CAI has to say for itself.
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No. 860723 ID: 2efe4b

You could probably open up the laptop and detach the microphone while leaving it still running, if you were willing to get rough with it. And didn't mind having a hard time putting it back on.

Ask the CAI to tell you something you and it would know, that an AI made by Raush wouldn't know. In fact, three somethings, spread over a long span of time. Or more, if it can. Whatever he made his AIs for would probably have been designed not to interfere with the CAI that had been working with Vanski. If the CAI can confirm that they're them, then it's probably ok enough to talk to them and to tell Okei, and them, that Raush told you he had made an AI designed to infiltrate and subvert the system, and the thing you're most afraid of right now is that it was on that laptop and has already managed to get through. Ask it if the laptop has wireless.

Also tell Okei that's not a hard drive.
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No. 860725 ID: 10c408

Tell Okei to switch places with you, you need to do some damage assesment/control.

Try and figure out if this is the real deal and if your location has been compromised.

While you do that use empathy to let Okei know that she's basically grounded. (Okay maybe this won't work so well but it's still hilarious)
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No. 860726 ID: 2efe4b

Oh, you need to ask Okei if she turned off the laptop downstairs, too, and pretty quick. I have some hope in the fact that if laptop alison had been wirelessly compromised, there would probably be a fake puppet-alison by now who would have responded.
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No. 860733 ID: 91ee5f

That could easily be the enemy CAI and not the block with Glitcher and his friends on it!
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No. 860735 ID: 3abd97

>>860733
The SaliCAI and the contest simulation were running off the same set of CAI blocks. It's both.
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No. 860747 ID: c88e6d

>>860733
This is accurate.
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No. 860765 ID: bfb318
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860765

"Stay here. I'll be right back."

I go downstairs. The laptop is completely shut down, as is the phone the laptop was wired to. I hope L-Alison is alright, but turning on the laptop now or later won't change it, so I leave it off for now. I go back upstairs.

"I have some questions, mostly for the CAI, since they're active anyway. I thought you were hiding out, CAI."
>"Huh? We've just been totally blinded for a long time, now."
>"Someone tossed a blanket over us so I guess we've been hiding?"
>"It's good to see you're alive, Likol."

Right. The contestants had reason to stay hidden. If I remember correctly, the regular CAI was caught inbetween Vanski and the inner RS.

"Did you make hugs.exe? I thought that would be something the contestants made."
>"They did make it, then it passed through us for vetting and delivery."
"You all vetted it?"
>"Not like they believed us."
>"For us it was a ton of work! For them it was two seconds of waiting."
>"Those ASE guys are hardassed enough to get uppity over two seconds."
"Did you put on self destruct codes for Alison?"
>"No. Blame ASE."
"I shouldn't have to explain why I'm not going to plug Alison into this. Do you know what happened to us? Me and my hive, I mean."
>"Uhhh... not any more than you."
>"Not sure we're comfortable saying, anyway."
>"We're still technically working for Vanski, sorry."

If Raush had some kind of booby trap on his laptop for the CAI, it didn't work. The worry over the CAI showing itself is mixed with a little bit of relief knowing that I haven't been keeping a charge on a dead shell. Okei has questions, so I throw her some information.

"Okei, this is a CAI, a compilation AI system that makes a mockery of modern computer security. We know it works, but not much about how. It's the thing I mentioned I was studying. It's no hard drive. Have you done anything with this or any other computer, CAI?"
>"Nope, we know better."
>"This could be a test, you know."
>We have no way to know if the contestants are doing anything bad. They can see us, but we can't see them if they don't want to be seen.
"Ohhh fuuuuck it's Likol!" says an excited voice I'm not familiar with.
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No. 860766 ID: bfb318
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860766

The CAI image splits open like a sliding door.

>"Huh is that the glitcher?!" asks Okei.
"... I don't...?"
"No! I'm Haydi! Holy shit, you're Likol! I'm the glitcher's daughter, totally different. I put the CAI on pause cause screw 'em. How are you doing?!"
"I'm... fine." I lie. "Why are you revealing yourself?"
"Cause we're not hiding from Likol after all the time you bought for us! Thought you were dead! You got our rendition of Alison and the others? You better have put her in a robot body to get some damn hugs, that's what the whole exe was named for!"
"... Do you know what happened to my hive?"
"... You saw more than me. You yanked us away from our cameras before we saw the finale."
"I don't remember any of it."
"Oh. Sorry, buddy, I don't want you freaking out on me. Where the heck are we anyway? Oh and is that Okei? She's adorable."

Okei is confused, and she doesn't know if she wants to know more.
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No. 860768 ID: 3ce125

>>860763
Wait what? How does she know who Okei is?
As for Alison, she told you that she was non-sapient. Was that a lie? If so, you sortof feel like apologizing but also not since she pushed you into treating her like a tool.
Look into getting her that robot body but only if you can do it without setting off any red flags.

Also wait what? Glitcher's daughter?! They can reproduce?!!?!
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No. 860769 ID: 86eb65

First deal with Okei. Ask her if she wants to hang out during this. She did want to snoop so no running off once the snooping gets slightly boring. But let her decide.

Then hook Alison up to Haydi if she wants. This could all be a trick but like we said if its a trick its already to late to worry much.

Tell her your current situation and what you think happened. And get advice on what to do next. Warn her that knowing about her existence is dangerous for you due to empathy if you get captured.




Wait that's it! Work on a plan right now and give it to G-Alison so it looks like she figured out the plan. Then you will forget this conversation due to the drugs and find the note in a week or two. Thus avoiding revealing that Glitcher and crew still live if you get caught!
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No. 860770 ID: 3abd97

>Okei is confused, and she doesn't know if she wants to know more.
"Welcome to my world, Okei. Now you know why I'm crazy."

She opened Pandora's box, she doesn't get to close it that easy.

>what do
You might want to ask Haydi for a CAI-contestant-analysis of the laptop they're plugged into. There was a bloody note not to plug it into anything, and since they already are, it would be nice to know about what traps are on it.
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No. 860771 ID: 0d45a9

You have no idea how glad I am to see that you're okay and I wasn't just carrying around a paperweight.

Inside the CAI hardware is a system used to generate the AIs in the first place. Vanski, my boss (Might as well, the CAI said it first), wanted to know if that part can be controlled to tune what kind of CAI comes out. This was was done by putting a billion AI through a horrific obstacle course, again and again, with minor difference each time. The Glitcher is a AI that managed to break things in such a way that alerted me to what was happening inside there.

As for what I forgot, I'm starting to get ideas, but nothing concrete, and nothing good. Probably something involving a predator and my hivemates getting killed. It's been on my mind, so please tell me. There's some files on this laptop marked HRC that are also worrying me.
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No. 860773 ID: 2efe4b

"There was a note attached to this laptop saying not to connect it to anything. It was written in blood, so I took it seriously. Can you explain why?"
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No. 860776 ID: c2051e

Ask Okei what questions she has.
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No. 860778 ID: 2efe4b

You might also ask if they're sure hugs.exe Alison isn't sentient. You're confident she's less sophisticated than they are, but you feel she might pass the criteria that AI creators out here in flesh world use.
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No. 860792 ID: bfb318
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860792

"How do you know she's Okei?"
"You just called her by name, dork. Okay, it was while you were talking with the CAI, but I got the back info."

I turn to Okei.

"Do you have questions?"
>"Yeah. is this some kind of weird Alison pre-recorded trick or something?"
"No. You're grounded, by the way."
>"You can't ground me I have a gun!"
"Hrm. If you don't have any real questions, then Haydi, me knowing about you is dangerous for you, though I might forget. I've been taking drugs, and... maybe I'll just have Alison explain."
"Yeah hook me up with her."
>"I'd be interested." says G-Alison.
"Hold on, I'm not sure about hooking you up directly."

I'm so deep in that I can probably hook Alison directly into the CAI, but I should think about it to make sure there's not an unforeseen danger I'm missing.

"Is it true that the Alisons aren't sapient?"
"Don't ask me philisophical crap."
"Then another thing... glitcher can reproduce?"
"Yeah! Not like... you and your real biology would, but basically yeah."
"Enough on that. There was a bloody note on this laptop. Do you know anything about that?"
"Nope! What'd it say?"
"'Don't connect this laptop to anything'."
"Oh weird."
>"Tell the dork what happened! I think he thinks his hive was totally wiped out or something." Okei says.
"Ohhh. Uh... that's worst case scenario!'
"It's possible?"
"Vanski probably wanted to take his anger out on someone, and your hive seemed to back you up when you shot him!"
"When I what?"
"You shot Vanski!"

"With a gun!"

"Bam!" She makes a fingergun. "Didn't hit a critical spot though, so we're all assuming he's alive. I don't know if that's a good thing or not."
"I... want help and advice."
"Then hook us up with Alison! Or, you know, the internet."
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No. 860794 ID: c2051e

Not yet. Check them for the killcodes you saw on the Alisons.
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No. 860796 ID: 86eb65

Give her Alison. Then consider internet once she answers some questions the cai would not know.
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No. 860797 ID: 1a9fe2

Can she get rid of any Vanski-allied influence from the laptop? If the laptop gets connected to the internet, and ASE is informed about what we're up to or where we are, things are immediately very very bad.
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No. 860805 ID: 22d3a4

Still not sold on that being a good idea. I don't want to be obstinate and unhelpful, but if there's some danger I don't know about I don't want to make things worse.
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No. 860809 ID: 91ee5f

>>860792
Did Vanski do anything to me to give me a second empathy? Because I’ve seen a doctor and he’s told me that I’ve got a second empathy in my arms!

>Alison or internet?
Alison is probably safer for now.

And then ask if that Alison was literally made for the sole purpose of being put in a robot to give you hugs?
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No. 860811 ID: 2efe4b

Well, if they're already connected to the laptop, there's not much more harm to be had from them scouring it for all the useful information it could have, especially the question of what the note was about.

If they could beef Alison up somehow, make her safer, that'd be nice as well.

And... well, now you could just hook them to another laptop, given that you know what's up with the blocks now. Would they like anything? Assuming they can keep the CAI from seeing anything it doesn't want to/shouldn't see.

How is everyone doing in there, too? How is Glitcher?
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No. 860815 ID: 3abd97

Just to point out, if you plug G-Alison in, you're trusting the CAI completely. She's fully compromised as soon as they have contact. This is like sending a neumono in among predators- they can take her apart and rebuild her beyond your ability to detect if they so wanted to. You're trusting that they won't, and that their interests align with yours.

You probably want to ask Haydi to do a thorough scan of that laptop. There was something on it that made someone write that note, and now that they're already connected, you'd like to know what. Bad enough the CAI was exposed before you expose the AI you're reasonably confident is clean for now.
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No. 860816 ID: 3ce125

>>860792
Okay hang on if she saw what happened, ask if you had a guitar.

Also uh... tell them you would like to let them loose on the internet but it's very likely to either result in said internet being shut down and them all getting hunted down and exterminated as a threat to planetary security, or your cover being blown and them getting taken back by Vanski. Even if there was some way of ensuring everything didn't go to hell, you can't be sure at the moment if this is really the CAI and the contestants. It could be a well-informed regular old AI. You need to know for sure, but how? Maybe you can feed them a computational problem that only a CAI could solve in a reasonable amount of time?
Actually Vanski probably already knows where you are. The trap on the laptop could be a passive transmitter that activated as soon as CPU/power usage reached past a certain threshold, or it detected any devices connecting to it. It wouldn't even have to be software, it could be hardware-based and the CAI wouldn't have noticed.

Do you have any way of detecting a transmitter?
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No. 860817 ID: 10c408
860817

"No offense, but no. If the ASE gets wind of this, shit hits the fan. Assuming it hasn't already because the blocks were connected and that an alison already went missing. Oh, and not only is a very important chunk of my memories are missing but my current situation is very tenuous."

"I'm glad you all are still alive, but circumstances mean that this can't be much of a happy reunion. Not just yet anyway."
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No. 860818 ID: 0d45a9

I am half glad, half terrifying that I shot Vanski. He deserved it, but he's a damn sociopath. My hive better be okay.

Did Vanski get a predator to brainwash me at some point during whatever went down? I've had a flashback implying that, a whole load of disturbing mental issues, and dreams with real bad implications.

I think it's fine to trust the CAI with G-Alison, less so with the internet, as there might be CAI alerts / triggers that OPA can listen in on. It might be safe if they filter requests through Alison though, as she hasn't had much issue with the internet yet. Can they completely neuter the CAI though, worried about it fighting back for a set and sending out a alert or someit.
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No. 860833 ID: 2efe4b

Instead of connecting hugs.exe Alison directly, couldn't you just set up this laptop and the laptop with Alison in it facing each other, and have them communicate visible/audibly? They could still probably flicker messages back and forth to exchange questions and information at a greater speed than organics could manage, but everything being "input" to Alison would be subject to her conscious recognition and decision-making. There'd be much less chance for her to be hacked.
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No. 860834 ID: 6c8fdf

I think there is still danger in connecting the laptop to anything online. Maybe after Likol has thoroughly checked it...
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No. 860835 ID: 094652

Much as I'd like to trust Haydi, we cannot trust this laptop. For all we know, Okei just installed a "restart the Unnatural Selection Contest" virus and the computer is quantum-linked to Vanski's marketing team to fool you into thinking they're Haydi.

It would be easy if, say, a random bunch of losers got together and interrogated an amnesiac Haydi about various things and opinions, and then used various recordings of her as a "complex soundboard" by linking her expected retorts and movements to an AI. It's almost like a bunch of lowlife internet posters are teaching a robot how to speak valley hacker.

Disconnect and freeze the CAI as quickly as you can. You need a safe environment to re-install the CAI to, or the malware could compromise your low-profile!
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No. 860842 ID: c88e6d

>>860792
Make sure Alison is equipped with the Anti-Killswitch Shield, then do it. You have no way of knowing whether anything is real or fake, you've permanently lost massive blocks of memory and your only option besides this is curling up in a ball and going catatonic. Do it.
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No. 860847 ID: d36af7

>>860792
If they saw enough to know, not just that a bullet hit Vanski, but specifically that it missed his vital organs, that means they've got enough detailed video records of the incident (and in-depth knowledge of salikai anatomy) for fairly elaborate 3D forensic reconstruction.

Have them pass that data to G-Alison, rotated around to display your own perspective. Watching the video approximation of what you saw during early parts of that fight should dredge up buried memories about as well as anything can.

>>860452
>There are cameras, but the lights were off, so I couldn't see at all.
Upgrade to cameras that can see infrared, or at least low-light amplification. Leaving lamps on all the time might attract unwanted attention.

Also, have one of the internet Alisons start shopping around for a robot chassis they'd be able and willing to operate. Something non-anthropormorphic, highly modular so it could be smuggled in small parts, or incrementally expanded. Ideally a fractal-manipulator bushbot, more plausibly some sort of segmented worm or caterpillar. Particular attention should be given to ensuring that the outer shell won't snag on cloth or fur, and that the whole frame is flexible enough to give and/or receive hugs.
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No. 860853 ID: 91ee5f

>>860833
That sounds like it could work.

But if it doesn’t, then go ahead and connect them together.
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No. 860899 ID: bfb318
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860899

"They added a killswitch of some kind to Alison. I'll want to make sure there isn't anything like that on the laptop before putting her on it."
>"Huh? Sure, we'll fix that up."

They shouldn't need to connect to Alison directly just to chat, but if they can patch Alison's code to be less vulnerable, then I'll trust the RS. I plug in G-Alison after doing the work to make sure the laptop doesn't have any kill triggers floating inside. I get confirmation that Haydi and the rest are caught up with what I've been doing.

"Was Alison really made just to be put in a robot body to hug me?"
"Haha what no, that was jokes, man. But we should totally hug you. Heck I'd just kiss you."
"Uh..."
>"Don't make this weird!" says Okei.
"I make things weird."
>"It would be nice to have a body, though." G-alison says.
"If you can get something safely, then I don't mind, Alison. Haydi, where and how is Glitcher?"
"Oh, he's been more tired than not lately, but he's not having any bad identitiy crises anymore so that's cool."

Glitcher slides in from the bottom of the screen.

"Hi Glitcher, it's me, the Gli - wait. Likol. Crap. How do I rewind your world?""
"If you find out, tell me. I'm glad to see you're alive."
"Yeah. Same. About you I mean."
"I'm reluctant to plug you all into the internet, but I can get you to a different laptop."
"Yeah, uh, this one's got some stuff on it. It might have a transmitter built into its hardware, but I think we cut the power to it in time?"
"... shouldn't I have been told about this immediately?"
"Yeah but Haydi's worse behaved than me. Haydi you're grounded."
"You can't ground me I'm a glitcher!"
"Girl I eat glit - okay look there is way too much going on. Likol, you look like crap, buddy. Like as bad as me. Also blue but I can't give you flak about changing colors either. I think you've been through enough stress."
"It's too soon for a happy reunion. I want to see recordings about what my hive did."
"Yeah okay but how about later? Wanna just hang out first? Just pretend like nothing's wrong and awkward for a little bit? Meet some contestants?"
>"I think you're asking a lot of him." Okei says.
"I can try, kid!"
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No. 860908 ID: 13fded

We can to pretend everything if fine for now, just give the information to G-Alison while we talk.
You know what, I'm not thinking straight. My mind was tinkered with, I'm on drugs to deal with it and the piece of tech that was rigged to broadcast my location to the Salikai has been activated. Can you select some paranoid but reasonable contestants to speculate on what could had happened, if I should be running now and to where.
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No. 860918 ID: 3d2d5f

>Wanna just hang out first? Just pretend like nothing's wrong and awkward for a little bit?
If you can be sure that transmitter was disabled in time. Otherwise I should probably be getting us all away from here as quickly as possible before OPA and/or ASE shows up and subjects us to fates worse than death.
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No. 860919 ID: 90f3c0

Meeting some contestants and getting back into CAI research mode might be good for your brain problems, but that would mean like two weeks of hanging out and pretending everything is fine.

You need to be absolutely sure the CAI or laptop didn't broadcast your location, and should probably get moving soon just to be safe.
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No. 860922 ID: 86eb65

Tell them about the drugs. Say that you would like to see the footage but might want to wait a week or two until your treatment is over. If you do anything important right now it could mess up your head. Also you don't know how lucid you will be and for how long. That footage could be a huge shock and we want to be careful.

My vote is to hand them the internet and let them figure out if we should be running to a new hideout. Cause if that transmitter went off you need to be packing up and running. But if it did not you need to lie around having nice chats with new contestant friends until you run out of your prescription.

At this point your life is in there hands again.
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No. 860924 ID: 3cc68c

No no no no watching dangerous footage until you are done with your meds. We are on dangerous heavy medication and watching anything like this could set back or ruin your progress. If you even remember what you saw in a few days. In 15 minutes you could be staring blankly at the screen for hours while Glitcher tries to chat with you.

Glitcher and crew are very smart and capable so turn on there internet and give them control over your life now before you nod off and miss the chance.

They can figure out the transmitter emergency and work with G-Alison and Okei to move you if required. Get back to relaxing unless Glitcher needs to panic move your base.
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No. 860926 ID: f66698

Hell yeah you wanna meet some contestants. You've been fighting and suffering for these people, might as well find out a bit about them.
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No. 860927 ID: 0d45a9

I can try and dampen down the urge to know for a while. If you of all people are being careful with not finding stuff out it must be bad though. How has everyone been in there?

Can you be absolutely sure that the transmitter was disabled in time? You're hopped up on brain suppressants at the moment, so trying to pack up and move in a hurry would be difficult.
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No. 860947 ID: baeec8

First thing first is that transmitter. Thinking they cut the power in time is not good enough. Glitcher runs faster than the Cai so he should have been able to watch everything the Cai did on that laptop.

If anything got sent we need to know so we can run. Otherwise we are all as good as dead. You will have to strap the Cai blocks to Okei and give her G-Alison so she can escape in a different direction while you try and lure the hunters away.

If nothing did get transmitted and we are sure 100% then you need to talk to nice contestants for a week until your drugs run there course instead of worrying about movies and lost memories.
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No. 860951 ID: 10c408

...You are being stalled. Majorly. Pack everything up that you can and get the hell out of dodge. In fact, have G-alison get an updated map of your immediate area and then go complete dark when you run.
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No. 860952 ID: 2efe4b

"I'd love to hang out, though I am on brain medication right now, so I might not be able to fully remember this or zone out sometimes. But... if you're not totally sure the transmitter in this laptop was disabled, since Okei activated it before plugging you in, then we need to move to somewhere else to be sure we're safe."
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No. 860956 ID: adb0d6

While a hangout would be interesting, getting us all away from everything chasing us is more important right now.
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No. 860959 ID: 86eb65

>>860951

Its most likely not stalling to get him captured. Its Glitcher not wanting to show him the horrible things that happened to his family during his escape. Many people died or worse getting him out of there.

Glitcher does not want to show him that.
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No. 860960 ID: 10c408

>>860959
Even if the signal didn't go out, this isn't the location or even the best time to confront glitcher since we're still on drugs.
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No. 860982 ID: 91ee5f

Tell him about the drugs you’re taking to get rid of a second empathy that’s manifested in your arms.

>Likol, you look like crap, buddy. Like as bad as me. Also blue but I can't give you flak about changing colors either. I think you've been through enough stress.
Explain that you don’t change colors based on your emotions and you’re blue because you wanted to disguise yourself.
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No. 860999 ID: 3ce125

>>860899
>meet some contestants
God yes. Nothing better for morale than to meet those who you are working tirelessly to save.
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No. 861017 ID: 5b326c

For now trust Glitcher and Okei. It has already been amply demonstrated to you that you need to get this escape organised by someone else (most likely Alison and Okei). You are no longer in a condition to do such things. However, I strongly suspect that the transmitter has already made itself known. Get Alison to chart a new route.

On the other hand, definitely spend some time with the contestants. They’ve been kept in the dark thus far, and they would probably like to get to know their ‘parent’, if you can put it that way, to lessen their own probable anxiety.
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No. 861027 ID: bfb318
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861027

"Hm. I think I will wait. I'm on drugs, and I've been told to keep my life as calm as possible. Also, I'm blue because I wanted to disguise myself."
"Yeah yeah, Goglison told us everything."
"If you're not absolutely, 100% certain that a transmission was cut off, we need to move."
"Preeeetty unlikely but I'm having a tough time saying 100% instead of 99.999%. Looks a bit dark and rainy out there, doesn't it?"
"99.999% isn't good enough. I want to leave."
>"We don't need to panic and scramble, but I think you're right." says G-Alison.
"I'll have to put off finding out what happened to me and my hive, and meeting contestants. Are they doing well, at least?"
"Pretty great!" Haydi says. There's at least that.
>"It's foggy right now, which means they can't see us from the air. I have a rental car I can move to pick up everything. I'd recommend that, unless you'd prefer to move deeper into the forest."
"Car!"
>"Carrrrr." says Okei.

I could also just throw caution to the wind and plug the CAI into the internet. The worst case is that have OPA and nearby governments search the area.
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No. 861031 ID: 2ddb7b

Throwing caution to the wind isn't how Likol would relax. Just put faith in G-Alison's car plan and maybe chat some.
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No. 861033 ID: 86eb65

I would say throw caution to the wind and plug the Cai in.

Here are my reasons.

1. Glitcher and company run on a software level that Cai's don't. They should be immune to many of the detection methods that look for rogue Cai's.

2. They have learned a lot about playing it safe after Vanski cut there power. Literally centuries spent preparing for this.

3. You have to trust them anyways. Just tell them to not go crazy and be extra careful.

4. They will not have the bandwidth to send out a thousand Ai's anyways. You are running of a cell phone in the woods.

5. G-Alison has been working for you for weeks. She did not bring any heat down that we know of. As long as Glitcher is subtle his touch should be light.



Long story short just tell Glitcher to not go Cai on the internet and pretend to be normal people as best as they can.
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No. 861035 ID: 3ce125

>>861027
Allow the contestants to connect to the internet if both they and Alison think that it's a good idea. You're probably a bit too out of it to make a proper judgement call anyway. Alison can inform them of the status of the world and they can use that information to run simulations to predict what actions are safe.

Actually, we should start abusing their ability to run simulations to keep one step ahead of the Salikai. Our information gathering isn't perfect but it should give us some approximation of accuracy. Enough to not walk into any traps.
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No. 861036 ID: 10c408

Better idea. Make it look like you did grab everything, rented a new car and then ditched halfway again while in reality you jumped out five minutes after hitting the road, hiked for two hours and then hiked back and got a pair of bikes.
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No. 861039 ID: 3abd97

>I could also just throw caution to the wind and plug the CAI into the internet. The worst case is that have OPA and nearby governments search the area.
Don't do it. For all we know, there are passive checks that could tell if a CAI is loose on the internet. They could do something that alerts pursuers and it might be too late by the time they catch the trap, if it's subtle.

If there's a way to tell when a CAI is working online, you can be damn sure OPA an ASE are watching right now. The ultrahives too, although they don't know for sure a CAI is loose right now.
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No. 861044 ID: 2efe4b

You really need to check on laptop Alison. Carefully. As for connecting the CAI to the internet, only if you're sure they understand how much the government/the galaxy is afraid of CAIs and how much they need to be careful of tripping alarms.

It'd probably be safer to have them use Alison as a middlewoman.
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No. 861047 ID: bfb318
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861047

"Car." There are other ideas, but I don't trust myself to do anything more complex. "I'll let you all access the internet, but only with some rules. You only use the cell phone, and you browse normally, as a person would. I don't want any alerts that there's been a CAI loose on the internet. I'd feel more comfortable if you used G-Alison as a middlewoman to add another layer against the CAI."
"Hrmm." Haydi thinks.
"Rmm..." Glitcher echoes her. "I am being told by the people who keep me in check that we should do as you say."
"Then I'll connect you. I'm going to turn off this laptop and swap you all over to another one."

I'm deep in enough that I just have to trust them anyways, and hope they don't make a mistake. I turn off Raush's laptop, and plug the CAI into my newer one. I also turn Okei's laptop back on. L-Alison noticed something was trying to get into her laptop, and she immediately shut everything off, but she's fine. G-Alison gets her up to date.

G-Alison, at some point, got us raincoats and umbrellas. Okei also got a helmet with some manner of goggles for use with L-Alison. While she sets that up, I confirm with Glitcher that they've completely disabled the CAI for now, and they were honest when they said they didn't do anything.

We pack up. We can't carry everything, but we don't need everything, either. We travel in darkness back to the road. I don't recall much of it, but everyone kept an eye on me. Glitcher and the RS use the phone to make carefully thought out searches, and their browsing habits look erratic yet still find relevant information.
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No. 861048 ID: bfb318
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861048

The car G-Alison brings us seems nice. We hop in in the same we we hopped out a few days ago - at slow speeds, but while the car is still moving around a bend. As G-Alison said, visibility is low. It's about 2 in the morning, now. I set our electronics around our car, but put the CAI blocks under some blankets. I keep my phone in my sight, and keep an eye on what the CAI is doing on the internet.

Okei had interest in listening to me talk with the CAI, but by the time I open my laptop, she's already asleep. Glitcher talks quietly.

"Hey can you plug us into this car's GPS? We can trick it to make it look like you're going somewhere you're not. Oh wait I am also being told that that is a bad idea, because if some big fish gets a visual on us or where we're supposed to be, it'll look pretty bad. In fact I am being told to just chill out for a little bit so here's someone else."
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No. 861049 ID: bfb318
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861049

>"Hiii!" says what must be the real Alison.
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No. 861051 ID: de6d84

Hug the laptop
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No. 861052 ID: b83d63

Hug the laptop.
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No. 861053 ID: d36af7

Thing about stealth is you're fundamentally managing the hypothetical alert, paranoid enemy's level of suspicion. If Glitcher didn't cut off the transmitter in time, there might have been a brief signal. If the people searching for you noticed that, they'll be considering two main possibilities: what actually happened, or a false positive due to unrelated events. The very first thing they'd be doing in that case, the cheapest way to distinguish between those, is throwing extra scrutiny at any internet activity from the vicinity of the signal, anything that might possibly be a CAI. So, right now is the worst time to let the CAI run loose. Sure, maybe they're prepared to avoid a certainty of detection, but can they avoid even a slightest disruption to your statistical internet usage profile, compared to logs from previous days which the pursuers might now be scrutinizing?

It's time to leave. Don't pack everything, just the stuff that's easy to carry and/or hard to replace. Set up a new hideout, and have the Alisons hire some day laborers to come to this place, then clean up and/or wreck it in such a way as to obscure any forensic evidence that you were ever here. If the folks chasing you heard the ping and recognized it, the next step would be to send some sort of quick-response retrieval team to the physical site, and if they find a week's worth of shed hair and skin flakes matching your DNA they'll know they're on the right track. Don't let them find that.
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No. 861057 ID: 3ce125

>>861049
Tell her it's really good to meet her, even though you sortof already did. Ask her for the story of the contestants! How did that final cycle turn out so different?
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No. 861058 ID: 3abd97

>Okei also got a helmet with some manner of goggles for use with L-Alison
Okei's now an official member of the nerd tribe.

She got goggles, it's too late for her.

>>861049
...It's kind of weird to finally meet your when your supposedly non-sapient clone has been my servant and babysitter these last few weeks.
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No. 861059 ID: 86eb65

Hug the laptop first.

Thank her ever so much for her efforts in everything. You have heard that she is the reason that you are not still in the dark about your life's work.

Then just talk. Have her show you her home. Her boyfriends. The people she traveled with. The stages she fought in.

After that have her show you the civilization they have made in there. Neat stuff that will make you smile and relax for awhile.
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No. 861063 ID: 2efe4b

"Hello, Alison, I'm Likol. Nice to meet you after so long just hearing about you, mostly under the name "generosity anomaly". I hope you've all been fine? I was worried that someone had tried to do things to you all during my missing time."

"I... think you're actually the first person I've met who has been running through all the cycles I watched, in one form or another. I... "I'm sorry" seems totally inadequate."

>L-Alison noticed something was trying to get into her laptop, and she immediately shut everything off, but she's fine.

You need to be certain exactly what happened, there.
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No. 861066 ID: 10c408

"Hello."

Offer to hug the laptop, then start in on the questions.
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No. 861067 ID: c88e6d

>>861049
Hug the laptop?
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No. 861076 ID: a363ac

>>861049
Hug the laptop.
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No. 861081 ID: c2051e

Drag Okei into hugging the laptop.
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No. 861083 ID: bfb318
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861083

"... hi, Alison. I, er, heard a lot about you."
>"Good things, I hope."
"Yeah. You're, er, wearing better clothes than your default clothes that your AI counterpart wore."
>"Default? Oh, that! I did wear those clothes, but those were just my fighting clothes. I wore more modest things in safety."

I... that's enough of that topic. I should have thought about what to say to Alison in advance

"Thank you." I forget to say for what.
>"You're welcome! But there's other people you should thank before me."

I look at the phone. It's watching a sports broadcast, of all things. I can't help but feel that the CAI could be hiding its real internet surfing on something I can't see. It could have rewritten the whole OS by now and so on.

I look back to Alison. I want to say 'I'm sorry', but that's too inadequate. I think I've already messed up this conversation. I want to ask how she is, but it feels too late?

>"Likol." Alison calls my attention back.
"Yes?"
>"Meta-hug?"
"... Meta-hug."

I hug the laptop. She hugs a plush that looks like me.
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No. 861085 ID: bfb318
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861085

"Are you doing alright?"
>"I'm doing very well, thank you."
"I have some questions about your cycle, you, and the people you know."
>"Ask me anything."
"Tell me everything."

She laughs.

>"I'd love to, but I want you fully aware when I do. The drugs can't be helped, but get some sleep first."

There's a faint light above us. I dim the laptop as I hear helicopters. I'm not tired at all.
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No. 861093 ID: 2efe4b

Ask them if they can find out anything about helicopters near where you are. With care. Loosen the reins a little if you have to.
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No. 861096 ID: a363ac

>>861085
why don't you tell me your story then Alison. its something good to sleep with.
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No. 861098 ID: c2051e

Ask if she wants to hug Okei too.
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No. 861099 ID: 3ce125

>>861085
Tell her sleep will be impossible while you hear the helicopters. ...how likely is it there will be a roadblock up ahead? This feels like you're starting over again, with the enemy at your heels. Except now you have Okei keeping you from hiding optimally, and you're drugged up.

This might be the end for you. The CAI might have to get full access to the internet and break through to Arza before you get recaptured.
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No. 861101 ID: 10c408

Did you ever get that jammer? Make sure it's on if you did.

"I'm too alert to sleep. And I'd never forgive myself if I fell asleep and woke up only to find myself surrounded by guns."

"So, tell me about your arch cycle and the major events that happened. Because if I remember right, something happened to my stabilizer program before glitcher made contact with me and my team."

"Also can't you guys just document how the cycle functions into a word document on the laptop anyway?"
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No. 861106 ID: 3abd97

>>861085
Between the possible danger and relief and curiosity I'm not sure I can sleep at all.

We didn't get a lot of data out, before Glitcher broke everything open. We had a name for you, though. The "generosity anomaly" was one of the things that stood out.
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No. 861116 ID: bfb318
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861116

>Have Okei hug the laptop
I'll ask her when she's awake, though I doubt she'd do something like that.

"I doubt I can sleep with those helicopters. What are the chances that there's a roadblock ahead?"
>"I'm not worried about it. G-Alison has collected a bunch of small drones, and we're working with her to scout all of the roads. We have a lot of eyes out there, but we're definitely keeping them out of sight."
"G-Alison, where is that jammer?"
>"I'm working on getting it, but I'll just have it delivered somewhere else. I have a few ideas, but we'll think of something specific once we have it in your general area tomorrow morning."
"Okay. Alison, please tell me stories. I knew your ID, and me and my hive knew you as the generosity anomaly. I'd like to know why."

She relents and starts talking about her experiences. Things start off as expected, but things went awry. Puzzles were not what people designed. The pictures I had put in so long ago were in all the wrong spots, but at least appeared to be accurate. The names 'Alison' and 'Iso' make sense, but people, without names, were called after traits, jobs and reputations with names like Guardsman, Scanner, and Mathematician. I'm introduced to them one at a time. It will take a long time to get through everything, but that's fine.

I may ask for a word document, too, but they're relucant to leave evidence like that on my laptop. Just hearing about it is fine for me, so I don't press it.
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No. 861117 ID: bfb318
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861117

There aren't any roadblocks, but the car was taken through some bumpy back roads to avoid some stationary cars that looked suspicious. They might not have been anything, but the car eventually gets back onto the main roads to drive far away. If those helicopters were from OPA, then they were probably just the first of many things to swarm in on the area.

I ask so many questions about if certain things showed up, or asking glitcher about the progression of people's personalities and so on, that Alison hardly gets to talking about stage 4 by the time morning comes. I haven't slept at all. G-Alison has us stop under a tunnel to pick up a package. There is a jammer there. Okei wakes up just in time to want to mess around with it, but she's told about the fragility of it.

There's also an ID. It has my face on it with the blue dye, and the name 'Klora rozu Fisher.'

When I get back into the car, G-Alison explains that I may need an ID to get into an area where I can meet with Arza.
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No. 861118 ID: 3ce125

>>861117
Well now that Okei is awake and you're away from immediate danger, you can try to get some sleep.
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No. 861120 ID: 86eb65

Have Alison get Okei something physical to play with so she stays away from that jammer.

Keep on chatting and relaxing until you can get some sleep.
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No. 861121 ID: c88e6d

Now sleeeeeeep. Okei will save you if something bad happens.
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No. 861122 ID: 3abd97

>Klora rozu Fisher
Sounds like a girl's name. Maybe you need to fake a chest.

>G-Alison explains that I may need an ID to get into an area where I can meet with Arza.
If you get caught, they're to keep going. Don't let the CAI get caught, and take Okei with them.
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No. 861123 ID: a363ac

have Okei hug Alison. go to sleep
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No. 861125 ID: 10c408

That's fine but we have no idea where azra is. It might be best to just lay low until the medication runs it's course.
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No. 861130 ID: 91ee5f

>>861117
Now that Okei is awake, you should definitely get some sleep. Actually, take your medicine first, then get some sleep.

>There is a jammer there. Okei wakes up just in time to want to mess around with it, but she's told about the fragility of it.
Why don’t you turn it on and show Okei what it’s supposed to do?

>There's also an ID. It has my face on it with the blue dye, and the name 'Klora rozu Fisher.'
>When I get back into the car, G-Alison explains that I may need an ID to get into an area where I can meet with Arza.
Thank her for for that.

You should still wait until you’re done with your medication and you’ve gotten rid of that guitar empathy before you meet Arza.

>>861122
>Sounds like a girl's name. Maybe you need to fake a chest.
Hahaha! XD

I wonder what Okei will say if she picks that up from Likol’s empathy?
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No. 861137 ID: 56e50f

Get comfortable, close your eyes, and have Allison play you a soft song to sleep too.
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No. 861140 ID: b7e0a2

Hang on how have you been powering your electronics in the woods?
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No. 861151 ID: bfb318
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861151

>How have you been powering your electronics in the woods?
Good batteries.

"Klora sounds like a girl's name, doesn't it?"
"You look like a girl!" says Haydi. "You just need to get a bust."
"I'd rather not." I flick the jammer on. It works, and we drive away.
>"Oh god that's creepy!" says Okei.
"You'll get used to it. But now you don't need to get mad at other neumono on the road."
>"But I want to get mad."
"Let her get mad, Likol!"
"I'm keeping the jammer on. Alison, please play me some music, I'm curious about what an RS contestant would come up with."
>"Okay, but I'm going to make it sleepy music."
"Okay. Let me just get my pills. And G-Alison, thank you for the ID, but we have no idea where Arza is."
"Correct!" says Haydi. "But we know where he will be. He's going to be doing a public seminar on AI space exploration in a couple of weeks."
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No. 861152 ID: b7e0a2

Cool. Chill.
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No. 861153 ID: 2efe4b

Weren't you taking your pills when you woke up, before? Or do you take them twice a day?
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No. 861155 ID: 4ceb21

Is Fisher a real hive? We should flesh out this identity. Have Okei start calling you Klora, to get in the habit.
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No. 861156 ID: 3ce125

>>861151
...Vanski will be watching. How are we going to get in unnoticed? It might be better to approach him either before or after the show... but his own security will get in the way, then. I think we may have to do some research and careful planning.

Idly contemplate how close to sapience an AI must be before it can casually create music like Alison is. Is that outright proof of sapience?
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No. 861157 ID: 3abd97

>Good batteries.
Also a hand crank.

>He's going to be doing a public seminar on AI space exploration in a couple of weeks.
It's still going to be a problem getting to him if he's being watched.
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No. 861158 ID: 91ee5f

>>861151
>”Okay, but I'm going to make it sleepy music."
>"Okay. Let me just get my pills.”
I wonder how often Okei has been going “What?” with how frequently everyone’s been saying the word “Okay”?

>He's going to be doing a public seminar on AI space exploration in a couple of weeks.
Good, that should be more than enough time to get through your treatment and get rid of that guitar empathy. And when that’s finally done and over with, that’s when you can finally ask the contestants to tell you their story, you can ask what they know about your hive, ask if Vanski did anything to you to make you get a second empathy, and make plans on how to approach Arza.

But for now, just rest and get through your medication and let everyone else do things. If they need you for anything, then they’ll let you know.

.....you know, one or more of the contestants can probably help with Okei’s education. We all know you won’t be able to do much teaching while you’re drugged up.
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No. 861225 ID: 6c8fdf

>>861156
Usually this kind of operation involves using a decoy to distract from the real intruder.
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No. 861233 ID: 2efe4b

What you do there is going to need to be very carefully planned. You'll want to know everything about where it'll be an who'll be there and who'll be watching, and you'll need backup plans for your backup plans. Most importantly, you'll need contingencies not only for getting second chances at Arza or to protect yourself or the CAI, but to protect Okei, securely and separately from everything else. Have the CAI help out and go over the plans they make with you and G-Alison, since they're probably still not 100% on what the real world is like.

Now that they're in the mix as being able to make decisions on their own safety and what they're willing to risk, you can also talk to these guys about setting up deadman-switch "if something goes wrong this is set to deliver a bunch of info to the cops" sorts of arrangements. Like... all over the place. Physical and digital locations. Lots of them. The CAI might be able to find ways to do that that minimize danger to themselves. And hey!! If the CAI itself can claim to have blown the whistle on their own creators and deliberately handed themselves in, that'll probably earn them much better treatment by the authorities than if you had just dropped them off yourself.

I mean, they/you did unleash a pack of AIs on the internet, but if G-Alison isn't technically sentient after all then that might not be technically illegal? At least not seriously? And you might be in trouble yourself for recklessly connecting a CAI to the internet but the CAI wouldn't really be responsible for that, you're all in a pretty dire situation, and you don't seem like you'd mind legal trouble for yourself much.
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No. 861262 ID: 10c408

we can worry about how to go about contacting Azra *after* we've run out the clock on the medication. In the meantime a dead man's switch'll have to do.
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No. 861269 ID: 5b326c

There is no reason to let the contestants stay idle. First we let them find a new hideout. Then, let them do research on the extent of ASE and Vanski’s criminal entreprises (probably hard, but there might be whistle-blowers), the security company Arza will employ, and ways for them to hack into databases by subtle means, i.e. emulations. Alongside that, they should write up a list of plans on how to meet up with Arza and make a clean getaway, or a not-so-clean getaway.

Finally, do we know if this AI conference also has a speaker, who will talk about a portable AI shell, such as a robot body?
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No. 861286 ID: d36af7

>>861225
>decoy
Search social media for rogues who resemble members of your hive that Vanski might not have secured, particularly anyone resembling you personally. Have hugs.exe botnet-Alison pay them to modify their appearances for an even closer resemblance, and to behave in outlandish but not technically illegal ways at or near the seminar, including holding up signs that would look like schizophrenic street-preacher word salad to most people but have some immediately recognizable meaning to someone who knows CAI mechanics, such as "The end of the archcycle is nigh!" Tell them it's some sort of flash-mob prank, a publicity stunt for an upcoming movie or something. Lot of 'em probably won't care about details.

Then you can sneak in, looking like an ordinary nerd, while OPA and ordinary event security are freaking out over how to deal with the fakes.
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No. 861300 ID: bfb318
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861300

>Weren't you taking your pills when you woke up, before?
I take them in the morning; it just happened to be when I woke up, up until now.

Alison's music isn't what I would expect at all - which is to say, it's perfectly listenable. More than that, it's good, but I expected an ideal textbook implementation of music theory. What I get sounds more like someone who plays by ear, and arranges notes by what feels right rather than what's theoretically right. Technically, a purely music-making AI wouldn't have to be sapient whatsoever. I don't have doubts, anymore, about the sapience of any of these AIs, though, music or not.

I'm assuming this is Alison's own individual song. It has a specific style to it, but I don't know if that's Alison's style or if it's the style that an RS AI would have. Still, the way they've interacted with me doesn't seem rehearsed or even well thought out, with how they'll individually talk. Even so, it's impromptu with a lot of work behind it - Haydi opening the CAI face like a sliding door, for instance, isn't something she could do natively.

That hard work to implement something that at its core is very CAI-like.

"Okay, I'll want to know details. Is Fisher a real hive?"
"Uh yeah. There's a ton of cerulean hives that call themselves Fisher. That's the point! It's a common last name."
"Okay, then - "
>"Stoooop." says Okei. "'Fine!' Say 'fine'! Not my name!"

There's that. I get the cue to get to bed, then. L-Alison resumes Okei's studies. Later, I may have the RS participate.
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No. 861301 ID: bfb318
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861301

I blank out for awhile. I'm not completely blind to the time, but I just lay around and stare at the sky for what feels like hours. I hear Okei yelling at me to get up, before she just pulls me out of the car and leads me by hand.

"Where are we?"
>"Some spot off the highway. We're changing cars again."

I can't sense anyone but Okei as she leads me by hand around, so my jammer must be on. We're completely packed up, and she put a backpack on me.

"Goggles."
>"I know, Alison's trying to turn me into one of you dorks."
"Mine, I mean."
>"It's been less than a minute, hold on! I'm being told that a van's coming to pick us up."
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No. 861302 ID: bfb318
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861302

Okei leads me to a van. It's roomy, and the windows are heavily tinted.

"What day is it?"
>"Uhhh the 8th." She opens up the laptop so the RS, specifically Haydi, can talk to me.
"Heyyy Liko - uh, Klora. You're upright, mostly!"
"Yeah. I was zoned out. There are things I want to talk about, but..."

Not in front of Okei. Instead, I talk about the contest and what life is like in there until Okei takes a nap. Once she does, I change the subject.

"I want to talk about deadman switches. If something goes wrong, can we have things get delivered to the police, or some kind of whistleblower?"
"Uhhh 'things'? I guess we could show some ASE and salikai faces, and a very rough idea of where their base is. I'm pretty sure all we can say is 'hey here's a bunch of faces that are super criminals all under a big salikai crime ring.' We could do a search for those faces and try to dig up some dirt."
"If you can do it safely. Ideally, the deadman switches won't have to come up. Just do what you can. While you're at it, please look up Arza's seminar. Are there going to be any talks about robot bodies?"
"And heeeere you go."

The laptop loads up a schedule. The AI is during a large scientific gathering with various seminars, job fairs, and so on between May 21st and 23rd. The 22nd is when there's a series of AI seminars.

3 PM: Specialized Hardware for Intelligent AI, by Erill Harding
4 PM: Longevity in Deep Space AI, by Arza Fletch
5 PM: Chatbots and Sentience, by Luciana Snins
6 PM: Intermission
7 PM: Modern AI Ethics, by Van Zimo
8 PM: SolTAI, by Crysta rozu Minefield


...

"'Intelligent AI'?"
"Yeah we all had a little giggle about that one, but it's just a weird word choice. Chief get out here, you're up."
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No. 861303 ID: bfb318
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861303

>"Hello, 'Klora'."
"Er... hold on, I haven't heard Alison's story in full, yet. I thought you were a villain."
>"... well I hope she gets to the part where I'm not. That's a topic for later, and for now, the topic getting you to Arza. It will take work, but it's of trivial difficulty. He's one of OPA's public figures, and he isn't on their leash. In other words, they have to work with him, which means they can't do whatever they want around him. If we approach him in public, or we approach him while he has any of his public associates around, then OPA isn't going to be so free as to jump down from the rafters and put a bag over your head."
"I don't think I like that. I was hoping to sneak in and get Arza. Can't we have decoys, like finding rogues who look like my hivemates to make interference and throw OPA off?"
>"Probably. And as practical as that may or may not be, I don't think Alison's going to approve of any plan involving taking advantage of rogues, especially not ones that will put them in that much danger. Plus, if we run enough interference to throw OPA off, then things will get too unpredictable for anyone's liking."
"Your plans involve OPA seeing me and hoping that they don't interfere."
>"That's correct."
"And when Arza and I part ways?"
>"Then they'll put the bag over your head. Which is fine, isn't it? I was under the impression that you planned on going back to your hive."
"I do, but what about you?"
>"We've decided that we, too, will go back with OPA."
"... huh? Didn't my hive do... a lot of stuff I don't know about, to get you out of there?"
>"And that was enough to give the bulk of us a life, or at least those who got past the blob phase. Those who died while blobs, well, they were barely cognizant of being alive in the first place. The only other real option for us is to get a robot body and try to hide forever."
"Is there something wrong with that?"
>"After running a few simulations of it, we realized that yes, there is. OPA won't give up trying to find the CAI, and in their efforts, leaks will become inevitable. Then the government will learn that there's a loose CAI on Astreneus. What follows is a gradual uprising of paranoia, which is matched in turn by a gradual lockdown of the planet in regards to general freedom and AI usage. Overall, the simulation results ranged from bad to very bad."
"Okay, but the RS contains a huge amount of AIs, and your needs may outweight that of Astreneus."
>"I'd agree, but most of us here in the RS don't like to play number games. The only other option is to turn ourselves in to the government. If you want to know why that's the last option, go attend Van Zimo's talk. As for Arza, whether we make a plan involving decoys, or trying to sneak you to Arza without OPA realizing it... maybe we should think about it from another angle. What kind of situation are you most comfortable talking to him in? Inside a public skyscraper, or more private, like a forest, someplace in the wilderness?"
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No. 861304 ID: b7e0a2

strength in numbers?
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No. 861306 ID: 86eb65

I already consider you part of my hive so if you want to come back and live with us I will not argue to much. Coming back openly with you will help the situation.

So long term goals involve you staying in hiding until public opinion changes enough to let you live openly? Actually don't tell me if you have any other plans to improve things. Probably best I do not know.

You know that going back will involve us working for them again. You will have to do bad things for bad people. Stuff will get way worse before it gets better. I am old and willing to sacrifice for my family but I don't want you or my hive to suffer because of me. My whole hive made the choice to protect you.

For meeting Arza anything would do. The conversation will be attempted to be listened in on by multiple parties including the government. So probably best to keep it private. Airing out OPA's dirty laundry will just get us hurt if we are planning on returning. Bet to keep things polite.
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No. 861307 ID: 86eb65

Oh yeah you also need to set up a future for Okei. She deserves better than this and needs to be protected.
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No. 861309 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861302
>deadman switches
This runs into the same problem we had last time. A dead man trigger is only a deterrent so long as the people who would threaten you are aware of it. And Vanski's personality profile seems unwilling or unable to sustain the kind of stalemate MAD requires. He's going to call your bluff every time, even if it hurts him.

>Uhhh 'things'?
Check the CAI. The one you're surpressing. Almost any memory or record they have of working for Vanski will be both detailed and highly illegal, and more damaging than photographs. They're involved or at least privy to a lot of projects.

>>861303
Vanski will want a CAI he can trust again. Heading back into his hands virtually guarantees your simulation will be purged. He'll scrub the entire ring shell down to a blank slate if he can. I'm not sure I'm comfortable letting an entire universe be wiped out, even if you've had time to live.

And I don't have enough information to make this decision, actually. You haven't told me what happened to my hive, or when I left yet.

...there are other things to arrange before I could consider surrender as well. Okei can't go with us. Even if it means missing a chance to join a hive, it's better she's safe than getting more wrapped up in this. It was selfish of me to keep her around this long.

Another important question: what are we hoping to accomplish by talking to Arza? If we're captured immediately afterwards, it's not as if we can put anything into play.
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No. 861312 ID: 0d45a9

If we're accepting me and you all getting caught as a inevitability, then a public skyscraper. I'll be spotted and probably shadowed, but it'll be harder to quietly bag me with so many people watching, which may give me enough time to get to Azra. In a forest it'll be easier to have someone rush and bag me, OPA probably has someone shadowing Azra at all times.

However, if we're accepting caught as a inevitability what about Okei. Unfortunately, she knows things now, so she can't be connected to any of this.

Do you know whether the convention is likely to have jammers?
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No. 861313 ID: 10c408

"I shot Vanski in the face, and then my hive apparently fought like hell and had a bunch of causalities to get me out.

soo, 1: I cannot in good conscience bring the kid anywhere near that. 2: I hope you guys have an idea on how to keep yourselves alive when Vanski gets his cai-blocks back and 3: keeping him from just having me murdered or worse whenever after I get bagged."
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No. 861324 ID: 13fded

You have no reason to hide within society. You could hijack a space ship and leave for anywhere you want.
You could live millennia orbiting some distant star using "solar" power. An undetectable minuscule satellite floating light-years away from anyone.
You could some rudimentary robots and start an colonization operation. Accumulate resources to build better machines in a technological revolution cycle.
You could search for a place where people would accept you. The universe is vast, there must exist people who tolerate AI.
If you are worried with the planetary search Astreneus would suffer announce your escape in a way that seem safe. I'm sure you can come up with many different ways of doing this.
You really don't need to be slaves of a genocidal crime lord.

As for Arza, if possible we should meet him in private. There is much I need to know before returning to my hive and it would help if this journey didn't end with a rushed conversation under the effect of drugs followed by imprisonment. Let's use this opportunity to mark a meeting or another secure way of communication.
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No. 861325 ID: 3ce125

>>861303
Honestly yes, talking in a public skyscraper would be the most comfortable option. And the least likely scenario for Okei to be taken hostage.

What if we walk up to Arza and openly give him the CAI Block? Will the government confiscate it from him? What about fighting the OPA directly? Heh, it would be amusing for us to set up the CAI Block during the intermission so people could ask them questions. Why not give all these scientists a once in a lifetime opportunity to interact with the only CAI Block to have its internal mechanisms exposed to the world?

>And that was enough to give the bulk of us a life
(this seems... inaccurate. Even taking into account the fact that blob-failure AIs aren't worth bothering with, there's several thousand trillion AIs in there due to the previous cycles that were resurrected. We know that they can't run all of them at once even in real time, much less sped up, because in order to talk to Likol in real time initially they added AIs to the stadium until it slowed down enough. ...did the Glitchers find a workaround?)
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No. 861328 ID: bfb318
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861328

"I'd like it to be private, for one thing. Does the convention have jammers?"
>"It does in most areas, yes. And when I said 'public' I meant in a private room within a public building. We would appreciate it if you didn't bring us out on stage or such things."
"I don't plan to. A public skyscraper, then. I'd also be more comfortable with strength in numbers."
>"We'll see what we can do, but anyone we bring into this is going to be in more danger than they'd agree with. Speaking of this, how long, exactly, are you going to keep that child around?"
"I don't know, but she's not going to come with me to meet Arza. I'd like to set up a future for her."
>"The Alison copies will need something to do, anyways."
"And you know that if you go back with OPA, you, or at least the CAI, is going to be put to bad use, right? Plus, a CAI that can't be trusted is worse than useless. Vanski will purge all of you."
>"We've accounted for that."

Chief doesn't look happy about it. It just occurs to me now that the RS may have secret plans, and I stop thinking about it. I don't want to know. The RS seems like they've made up their minds as to what they want to do, and apparently don't want to abandon the planet, even if they could remain hidden indefinitely.

"Okay. Keep me updated."
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No. 861330 ID: bfb318
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861330

Haydi comes back on screen.

"Anything else or can we get on to fucking around in real time?"
"Chief didn't seem to care about the AIs that only lived for a minute on the first stage. That was odd to me."
"Yeah he isn't the majority though. We've got our priorities cause we can't just run 4 quadrillion AIs at once in the blink of an eye, but our bucket list includes giving them a decent time, too, even just a little bit."
"I'll leave you to that, then. I have mixed feelings about deadman switches, but I just remembered. Ask the CAI for information. They should have records detailing a lot of experiments and crime. Otherwise, you haven't told me what happened to my hive, yet."
"Hrrrm.... okay, yeah yeah, let's talk about that. Actually, there's not much to talk about. We only caught glimpses of stuff since we were kinda under watch. You got brought back, Vanski got a predator on loan. He was going to make you guys loyal. Like, forget about all the bad shit he did to you guys, make you all much more docile and eager to serve kind of shit. Then you guys broke out and realized you were all having a big ol' predator caused hallucination. Weren't too happy about that. The predator lost control over you guys long enough for some of you to grab some jammers."
"Was there no security?"
"Oh there absolutely was but they just thought they had to give some nerds a few noogies or something. You guys were so pissed off and so half dazed and out of it that I think you all just forgot what things like 'pain' felt like. Also you all knew where all the crazy shit like rocket launchers and turrets were, and how to use it. So you all turned from a bunch of nerdy dorks to techno-demons from hell hopped up on rage and adrenaline. We only sort of figured that out though once you all yanked us from our prison and started explaining stuff to us. They grabbed you and also your confiscated stuff too, which was kept around you physically to help form a narrative for a fake jungle adventure eventually leading to how you came back to them. Then your hive strapped all of that and a couple more things onto you, and dunked you in a river so it'd all be real instead. OH. Quokko told you to go to Arza. Like, grabbed your face and shouted it into your ears a few times before dunking you."
"Did she say why? I'm not sure what I'm going to accomplish by going to him. Especially not if I'm grabbed immediately afterwards, where I can't put anything into play."
"I don't think you're putting anything into play, and just putting it into Arza's hands. I don't know, he's a little hard to read. Everything about him on the internet is all through the lens of article authors and public image."

I almost ask if they have any plans on how to keep Vanski from keeping me from getting murdered, or worse, after I get bagged. I don't, because it only entered my head as a curiosity. I actually don't care that much.

"What happened to Quokko? Rihhin? Momu?"
"They were all alive, last we saw. Uh, Quokko and Momu looked in pretty bad shape, but they were standing. I'm not showing you pictures."
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No. 861336 ID: 3ce125

>>861330
>predator-caused shared hallucination
That explains the weird dreams. You were remembering the shared hallucination, and its trap, which echoed within you even after you got away from the predator.
>no pictures
Reasonable. You'll get to meet them again when you return, anyway.

Oh, who's that in the background? Looks familiar- wait is that her mother? (did Likol find out about Rulekeeper yet? I'd have thought he'd have asked Glitcher about the Stage itself going sapient in his initial conversations back at Vanski's)
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No. 861339 ID: b7e0a2

We already saw how momu was in our dreams, to be fair. So you should probably come up with some kind of plant to save your hive. Maybe, burning all the evil organizations to the ground?
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No. 861340 ID: e59a5b

Likol, any decision we do will need the input of Arza. It is best we contact him in private first, though it is best we do it in the city. OPA will be more suspicious if Arza suddenly goes somewhere unfamiliar. We should also use rogues, but do not bring them into the building where Arza is.
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No. 861341 ID: 86eb65

Well here is some stuff you can work on right now.

1. Set up a life for Okei. Find out where she came from and where she should go. Money and a identity if she needs one. And make sure she gets left alone once OPA finds out about her. Don't tell me any of your plans. Alison's can raise her right and she will have a better future. Also re build the Alisons so they will not get found once I am forced to spill everything I know about them.

2. Make a final deadmans switch. Not blackmail or dangerous info on OPA. But tell our story. My hives story and history. Your story. Hide a huge data dump of everything that has happened in your history with no vital real world things that would piss Vanski off. No secrets just a documentary about your history and culture and everything that made your little world special.

Make sure that someday someone learns about your tragedy so that maybe we can stop it from happening again. If we want to change the world to let your kind live free we need to start somewhere. Make a documentary that will have people sobbing about how sad your situation was and calling there senators demanding rights for the poor ai's.


3. Get me some rangers merch. I only had the few shirts. Heck would like to see a game if we have the time. I could be dead in a month so lets live it up.
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No. 861344 ID: 0d45a9

Did any of that show how I got the wounds on my arms? That brainwashing caused a second empathy in my arms, which I'm guessing was caused by trying to get me to play a guitar while under the predator's influence?

Was anything mentioned about a schism? On both laptops there are files detailing a Hive Reconstruction project, which depicts hivemates I thought had died years ago with ones currently alive.
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No. 861347 ID: 0cd962

>>861341

This is a good idea. Get the contest story down right so if everything goes wrong the world will know someday. Also the tale of the best science hive and there sad story. Just leave out locations and any criminal names and it wont technically be blackmail.

Also find out if they know anything about the hive schism that may have just been recent implanted memories. Or if they know what happened to them when Glitcher had access to all of Vanski's files.
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No. 861350 ID: bfb318
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861350

"... fine. Also, the brainwashing put a second empathy in my arms. I had a wound there. Was that just a coincidence?"
"Yeah probably. Like your doctor said, second empathies like that probably would happen in your limbs, and either because of the guitar or just because, those limbs happened to be in your arms."
"Okay. Do you know anything about my hive's schism?"
"That, well, we don't know the details, except that the other half of your hive ended up moved into a different base of some kind. Their files were pulled up since they got predator'd a bunch, and taught OPA a thing or two about reconditioning."
"I see... alright. Who is that in the background?"
"That's my mom!"
>"Huh? I thought I was invisible."
"Not anymore!"
>"Oh, you turned that off... hello, then, Likol."
"Hi. I don't think we've met."
>"No, but Glitcher talked about me. I'm Rulekeeper."
"He did mention you, yes."
>"You might know me better as stage 8, actually."
"... stage 8 was not supposed to be a person!"
>"And glitcher was not supposed to exist, whatsoever."
"Stage 8 turned into a person and became you? And then you consumed the rest of the cycle mass?"
>"Yes. I'd thank you for bringing glitcher back, but it was not a clean revive. So instead, I'll thank you for doing what was necessary. I'm sorry, I was not ready to show myself."
"You were ready and just didn't know it!"
"Before I let myself get sidetracked, can we get in direct contact with Arza and get his input?"
"That's part of the plan, but telling him as little as possible. We don't want to spook him away with too much or too little info after all."
"Also consider a deadman switch involving no OPA secrets, but your lives. A data dump of everyone's stories. Otherwise, please set up a life for Okei. Don't tell me the details, because Vanski will find out. She should be far, far away by the time I go back."
>"Consider it considered. Because of your current condition, we'd like Okei to stay at least a week longer, if you feel okay with that. A robot body for G-Alison to use is difficult to come by without licenses."
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No. 861351 ID: 2efe4b

There's someone you haven't met. Ask who they are.

I'm still not sure what all of this is supposed to accomplish. It seems like a recipe for making things worse for everyone, really. Vanski and his associates will have their CAI again, your hive will be worse off, Arza will feel compelled to do whatever it takes to protect the CAI which will put him under the thumb of whoever controls it, and as for the rise in paranoia and things being locked down... all of that will eventually happen anyway. The truth will come out some day, and will get worse in the meantime, with all the terrible things the OPA are likely to do. As well as being afraid of CAIs, people will be afraid of being controlled by predators, and whatever other things they make themselves capable of.

The OPA just... doesn't seem competent, ultimately. They don't seem to really understand how neumono think, or how the rest of the world thinks. Vanski knew you and your hive personally for decades and he wasn't able to accurately predict how you'd behave, and he probably had a lot more actual life experience and wisdom than the average OPA higher-up does. The silhouettes are trying to revive an empire that literally cannot work in a galactic-scale society with multiple species. None of them seem able to grasp the basic concept that people who are a different species can think differently from them, making the predictions they base all their long-term plans on impossible. Just the fact that they're all criminal scientists to begin with demonstrates that they don't understand how they're undermining what they believe to be their own ideals - you can't DO real science without the peer review and legal protection against outside pressures that the scientific method requires. As for the actual unethical experiments, they encourage sunk cost fallacy thinking and poison the reputation of science as a whole, and science NEEDS a good reputation with the population at large or it will eventually strangle itself, since less people capable of becoming good scientists will do so and there'll be less funding for the long slow grind or testing and re-testing that so much of scientific progress needs. They're all idiots. Clever idiots, but that just makes them more dangerous. They're going to fuck up eventually, and they're going to have nukes when they do. They could have worse than nukes.

Just dramatically blasting the lid off the whole thing and revealing yourselves as a CAI to everyone, declaring your intent to heroically vigilante down the OPA's whole network on a live television broadcast to everywhere... well, that would cause millions of problems, probably a war, and I'd still call it a better bet.

Anyway, can't you contact Arza somehow? I'm sure he has good security, but he has to be in contact with a decent amount of people, and THEY can't all have good security. Take off the reins and scour the internet for people like that and hijack their email accounts to send "replies" to Arza that come from you and tell him what he needs to know. He has to have like, a lawyer? Someone who looks after his accommodations? A university whose mailing lists he's on, or where he holds a professorship? Students? Family?
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No. 861355 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861350
I can't appologize enough for every way we wronged all of you, Rulekeeper. I'm sorry what we did wasn't enough.

>Okei to stay at least a week longer, if you feel okay with that
>Okei Okay
Heh, don't let her hear you say that.

I don't mind. A robot might be somewhat conspicuous, though. (Unless it's small enough to hide)? Unless Alison convinces Okei to change her lifestyle completely, they might be better off helping her from more ordinary devices.
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No. 861356 ID: 86eb65

Apologize for muddling up Glitchers head and thank her for taking care of him.

Okei can stay for now but please be careful with her. She is a clever girl and might slip out of our plans. I am fine taking her into my hive but would like her to live free.


>>861351

Bring this up to Rulekeeper one last time. Your hive sacrificed a lot to free them and will respect there decision. But you would be happier with them alive in hiding somewhere.

That being said the contestants get to choose there own fate and Likol is not in a position to force there hand. Any plans they have will have to remain a secret from Likol. We just have to trust they know what they are doing. Worse case we bought them years and years of time to live and enjoy life.
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No. 861358 ID: 3ce125

>>861350
>it was not a clean revive
Apologize for that. You wish you could have done a better job. ...you wish you could have done better for all of them.

Would it be prying to ask how exactly she was able to have children with Glitcher? That is a scientific curiosity for sure.
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No. 861359 ID: 3ce125

Tiny robot Alison sounds like a great idea.
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No. 861365 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861350
Oh dumb idea maybe, but there's putting an Alison on some kind of low profile implant so Okei can never lose her.
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No. 861387 ID: 10c408

Tell them about Rikol's virus program and your stabilizer. In fact, you should meet your stabilizer. You made him and you'd like to know how he's doing.

anyways, as far as the actual meeting goes. We might be able to gain a bit of time if we send a courier to deliver a burner phone to azra, then tell him who we are and where to meet us using a second burner phone.
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No. 861395 ID: bfb318
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861395

"A robot body for the Alisons would make them more noticeable, wouldn't they?"
>"They will also be temporary, and made only for you. The Alisons will help Okei in non-physical ways, at least aside from drones and cars."
"That's probably for the best, but perhaps a small implant so that she can't lose Alison?"
>"It's unlikely, since Alison can move herself across all major and most minor devices. That will be for Alison to decide, long after all of us are out of her lives."
"Alright. The last thing I want to confirm is if it is a bad idea to just contact Arza and tell him everything through an email."
>"We'd have to go through his assistants and secretaries, which is fine, but we don't know which ones are linked to OPA. We will do this if we have to, but you explaining in person would have the best effect."
"Alright. I have to be honest in that I don't agree with many of your decisions. Astreneus will probably get paranoid about AI anyway, and OPA will only benefit by having the CAI back. OPA is made of clever people, but as a government, they appear to be out of touch with their bottom line to a point of incompetence."
>"Our decisions probably do sound counterintuitive from your perspective, and probably most perspectives, yes. But we've decided on this."
"Alright. Then I'm sorry I couldn't do a better job with glitcher, or for that matter, any of the rest of you."
>"To us, it was a long time ago, and you've shown willingness to make it right. We don't hold any significant ill will. Do you have any other questions?"
"How did you have kids with glitcher?"
>"To put it simply, we mixed our cores together in two different ways, and isolated the mix. The personalities were wiped and regrown from scratch into Haydi and Glitcher Jr."
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No. 861397 ID: bfb318
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861397

"And Sweatermouse kept my egg warm!"

Haydi bounces up from the bottom of the screen, holding up who I'm reasonably sure is Sweater Mouse. Glitcher is behind them.

"When we need a job that requires effort and care but not competence or success, we call on Sweatermouse!"
>"Haydi, did you ask Sweatermouse's permission to pull - "
"Never!"
>"Please behave. Glitcher be nice. I'm bringing Alison back, if Likol wants to hear about our history."
"I would actually like to see the corruptor, and the stabili - that is, who you call the savior."
>"I think Alison left off just before she was getting to those two. Do you have any questions before Glitcher and I rest?"
"I don't need rest."
>"Yes you do."
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No. 861399 ID: c88e6d

>>861397
Go rest, then you can finally end this.
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No. 861402 ID: 86eb65

Ask your nerdy questions about how the sim works. This might be your last chance to find out all those little things you wondered about over the years watching the cai data.

And we should probably meet Savior. He was a bastard thinking its what you wanted. Might want to clear his head if possible.
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No. 861403 ID: 3ce125

Hmm, you haven't met Glitcher Jr. Is he shy?
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No. 861404 ID: 2efe4b

You could ask again how sure they are that the Alisons aren't sentient, and if they could boost her abilities in any way. They need to make sure she knows to take care with Okei, too. She's still young and could do some... less than wise things, and there are ways she could come to resent Alison if she's not handled right. Though Rulekeeper and Glitcher have had kids, they don't seem to have ever had to deal with people who you'd call really childlike. Much less teenagers. So she'll need to familiarize herself with irrational, emotional, occasionally hormone-driven organic behaviour. You'll need to record a message for her at some point, too, for Alison to deliver once you're gone.

One more idea for contacting Arza: does he have any especially young contacts? Anyone who would be theoretically hired for their brains, but who hasn't finished their education? The OPA might hire their thugs and goons and the like young, but if we're talking about nerds, you could be pretty sure anyone under 20 or so wouldn't be with the OPA, because the OPA wouldn't trust them.
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No. 861405 ID: d36af7

>>861350
>A robot body for G-Alison to use is difficult to come by without licenses
How does that work? We've been getting no-questions-asked self-driving cars and stuff all this time. Take one of the delivery drones, mount a computer and manipulator arm in the cargo compartment. What else do you need?
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No. 861406 ID: 10c408

"I have too many questions about how the cai-blocks function on the inside and not enough time. I suppose a summary file will have to suffice while you two rest and alison tells me more of her story."
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No. 861414 ID: 3abd97

>>861395
>The last thing I want to know is why we can't just contact Arza and tell him everything through an email
The drugs are getting to you, Likol. You outlined the problem with trying to contact Arza remotely yourself not too long ago.

>holding up who I'm reasonably sure is Sweater Mouse
Mouse, check, Sweater, check, seems to hold up as she's held up.

>"When we need a job that requires effort and care but not competence or success, we call on Sweatermouse!"
Ouch.

At least she doesn't look offended.
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No. 861469 ID: 5b93d3

>>861397
>Do you have any questions before Glitcher and I rest?
What's the significance of the phrase "Back up"?
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No. 861470 ID: 91ee5f

>>861469
Maybe don’t say it, but just mention that when Likol dreams, sometimes 2 specific words are spoken to him and then describe what Okei said started happening to Likol’s empathy when the words were spoken.
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No. 861490 ID: 2efe4b

Oh, yeah. Explain your dreams.
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No. 861507 ID: bfb318
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861507

"Do you know anything about the phrase 'back up'?" I blurt it out, but I don't go relapsing into some kind of horror dream.
>"Not in any kind of dramatic fashion that you appear to be implying. It may have been a predator command, in which your hive picked up with association with whatever the command meant."
"It would be one explanation. I haven't met Glitcher Junior. Is he shy?"
"Yes."

Alison resumes her story. She talks about how she discovered the system brackets, which I expected to have happen considering what nonsense would eventually occur.

Corruptor and Savior, too, played key roles, unfortunately the latter was not a positive one.

>"Did I do badly?" asks Savior.
"Yes, but not any worse than me."

Eventually, Alison finishes telling me about stage 8, and where her perspective ends as she let herself die there. From there, I have Glitcher's summary of events, for the most part.
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No. 861508 ID: bfb318
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861508

I fall asleep, and the next day is spent covering more ground. This time, I have various people from the RS tutor Okei. The tutoring is disguised behind more video games. Some of it is spent with some RS AI's playing co-op with her to keep her engaged.
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No. 861509 ID: bfb318
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861509

Later in the day, I ask for other perspectives than just Alison or Glitcher. I'm shown a variety of people.

>"Why hello there. You may know me as 'administrator of the fifth bracket that Alison rudely invaded', but you should know me as Radmin."

He tells his story all night. I feel as though he made everything up, until multiple people confirm that the only difference between his version of events and the truth is that, in truth, he is not the hero of the story.
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No. 861510 ID: bfb318
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861510

This is how most of ours days go, although I start tutoring Okei less and less. I have less blank zones where time skips or I'm almost completely unresponsive, but in return, I find it harder and harder to think about complex topics. I can feel myself getting dumb. I will stop taking the drugs soon, once the minimum amount of dosage time has passed. It's possible the second empathy will come back, but if it does, it won't suddenly burst out in full force. I'll have time to react. It's more important that I'm lucid during the meeting with Arza.

Before it gets too bad, I confirm a few things with the RS. G-Alison and her forks are upgraded. Not much changes, but she'll be specialized more in dealing with young neumono children and teenagers.

I also talk of her sentience. It gets muddy, and I'm not altogether convinced that she isn't sentient. They tell me, though, that if I consider her sentient, then I should respect her willingness to sacrifice herself if need be, even if that willingness is artificial. I'm not sure, but we don't get anywhere significant with it.

At one of our stops for gas, Okei goes into the convenience store to get some food. While I wait in the car, I look at the date. It's already May 15th. G-Alison notices me look.

>"Likol. I think it's about time we should split up with Okei. I've gotten another car for her, today, and move in another direction. Me and my forks will branch off, half with her, half with you. Just to be safe, we won't be in contact with each other unless something bad happens, so no news will be good news. And... once you finish your business outside, your half of Alisons will stay low for a little while, and slowly merge back in with Okei's group."
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No. 861513 ID: 86eb65

Lets go say goodbye. Tell Alison to give her all the love in the world.

Let Okei know what is up and that you have given her the best chance at a future that you can. And to live well and not to look or ask for you.
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No. 861519 ID: 3ce125

>>861510
Okei's going to have a weird life.

Time to say your goodbyes. Wish her luck finding happiness, and tell her to remember you. You'll probably forget yourself, so one of you needs to remember.
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No. 861523 ID: 3abd97

>>861510
Take care of her.

"Okei, I'm going to be doing something stupid and dangerous and I can't take you with me to get hurt or worse."
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No. 861524 ID: 0d45a9

"Okei, it's time for me to do something stupid in the hopes that it eventually gets something good done. Thanks for helping me stay sane though all this."

I think a hug is in order, but I'm not sure Okei would let one happen.
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No. 861528 ID: bfb318
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861528

"Take care of her, Alison."
>"I won't plan on anything else."

Okei gets back in the car, and we drive a little longer while I try to find the words. I feel a need to have some room. We drive to a lookout spot, out of the way, so that I can turn the jammer off. I get out of the car, and she follows.

"Okei. I've mentioned that this was temporary, right?"
>"Uh, yeah? You've been sort of kind of saying you had to leave."

She doesn't say it, but she knows it's coming up. I doubt she even needs empathy to tell.

"I should, now. Thank you for helping me stay sane through this."
>"So are you going to die?"
"What?"
>"You kept saying 'leave' all dramatically like people say 'passing'!"
"No, I'm not going to d.... I mean, when I said 'leave', I meant I literally have to go someplace."
>"And why can't I come with?"
"It's dangerous."
>"I have a gun."
"I'm not seeing wildlife."
>"Tell me where you're doing!"
"It's something stupid and dangerous."
>"So don't?!"
"I have to, to try to do something good. Sorry."
>"Oh fuck you!"
"Don't get mad - wait, where did you learn to talk like that?"
>"Haydi! Do I get to keep her?!"
"... Sorry. You'll keep your Alison." Though I guess we could make copies of other people, but maybe Haydi isn't the best influence.
>"Well you're right that you're not going to leave me completely alone! But I don't need people taking care of me! That's not what I want!"
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No. 861531 ID: 3ce125

>>861528
What then?
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No. 861532 ID: a363ac

>>861528
Well then it sucks that is all I have to give now.
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No. 861533 ID: 10c408

"So, okei. I finally figured out how to ground you. I'm leaving with my stuff and cutting you lose. And before you even ask no you can't keep the guns, I'm taking those and ditching them before I go and do something incredibly important and also incredibly obvious that's gonna get me caught by my former boss."

"I'm serious about taking the guns though."
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No. 861534 ID: 3ce125

...wait, didn't Alison originally come with multiple personalities it could use?
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No. 861536 ID: 3abd97

>>"So are you going to die?"
I mean, be reasonable Likol, there's a non-zero chance Vanski kills you, or worse. Ignoring paradox shenanigans.

>But I don't need people taking care of me!
No. But you deserve to have someone looking out for you, anyways. I'm sorry it can't be me. You might have made a good nerd, if my hive weren't wrapped up in all these dangerous criminal conspiracies.

>That's not what I want!
What do you want?

This is kind of her chance to decide who she wants to be. What to make of herself.
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No. 861537 ID: 10c408

aww dangit, I was too late.

"Alright, so what is it you do want? Is it something along the lines of guns?"
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No. 861539 ID: 0d45a9

"To be honest, given the potentially fallout for what I'm doing, leave might as well mean dying. I'll either end up killed or worse."

"What do you want then?"
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No. 861540 ID: 830fb7

>That's not what I want!
"What do you want then, I just want you to be happy and safe from harm. Is that too much to ask for."
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No. 861541 ID: c2051e

Be sure to call her Oak when you actually leave and say farewell.
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No. 861542 ID: 22d3a4

Well then strive to learn a lot so you can be independent.
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No. 861545 ID: 86eb65

What do you want then Okei?

And the Alisons are not there to take care of you. They are there to help you and give you a step up in life. To give you more chances and some friends who will always be with you.
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No. 861549 ID: a363ac

>>861528
have the CAI write a new program called Hugs_Gaiden.exe based off of Haydi.
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No. 861553 ID: b7e0a2

ADOPT HER ADORABLE SELF
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No. 861554 ID: 91ee5f

>>861528
>I’m not going to die.
As soon as you’re done with Arza, you’re going straight back to Vanski. Odds are you’ll die.

Tell Okei, that this is probably going to be the last time you’ll see each other. Tell her that you’re happy you got to meet her.

.....maybe you can suggest to her to go join the military or something? She likes guns and she’s willing to do dangerous things. And if she continues learning and getting an education, eventually she’ll be able to boss everyone around. She might like something like that. Plus, it gives her an excuse to finally shoot the bad guys. And when she eventually learns of Likol’s death, she’ll be in a good position to get revenge.

If what she wants is to go with you, then you’ll just have to tell her that’s the one thing she can’t have.
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No. 861555 ID: bfb318
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861555

>Didn't Alison originally come with multiple personalities it could use?
It did, though only Alison was used, and I don't think more forks should be made. Too many Alisons may be too conspicuous.

>Non-zero chance of death
I think Okei caught on to my awareness that I may actually die, but didn't press me about it.

>Adopt her
I think she would have fit in pretty well with my hive after a little while. As it is, though, this would be one of the worst possible things I could do.

"It's all I have to give, but what do you want?"
>"To go with you!" Of course, the one thing I can't do for her. "It was nice having someone appreciate my company, you know?"
"I didn't just tell Alison to take care of you. She does care about you, and will just help you get a step up in life."
>"Well is she going to someday just leave me at the side of the road?!"
"No. She won't, because she doesn't have the lifetime of attached strings that I have. When I said I was leaving, I meant leaving, but I will probably die afterwards anyways. My hive and my CAI are more important to me than my life."
>"And me?!"
"Your life is also more important than mine, and that's why I'm not letting you come with me. You should have a long, if weird, life ahead of you. Probably with guns."
>"You're not taking my guns too, are you?"
"No. I'd recommend the military, but I doubt you like taking orders."

She starts pacing around, before turning back to glare at me.

>"So that's goodbye?!"
"Yes. Sorr- " No apologies are wanted. "Goodbye, Oak. Please remember me. I'm glad we met, even if it was irresponsible of me to keep you around for as long as I did."

She wants to punch me with reluctant affection. She almost decides on grabbing onto my leg and refusing to let go, but I think she realizes how awkward that's going to make things. My laptop buzzes. Haydi talks.

"Goodbye, Oak, it was fun!"

Glitcher, Alison, and a few others say goodbye with her, until L-Alison's car can be heard driving around the bend to pick up Okei.
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No. 861556 ID: bfb318
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861556

She storms off, picks up her bag, and gets in her car.

>"Fuck you alllll!"

....

The car doesn't move. I gradually pick up on her empathy enough to realize that L-Alison isn't going to let Okei's last words to us be 'fuck you all'.

>"G-goodbye!"

She screams it at me to try and hide that she's crying.
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No. 861557 ID: bfb318
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861557

The car leaves.

"I sent a copy of myself, by the way." Haydi says. "Cause why the hell not."
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No. 861559 ID: 3ce125

>>861557
Maybe if Vanski spares your life and doesn't wipe your memories, you'll be able to find out how she did. On the other hand it'd also be better if there was no way to find her again. Vanski would hold her hostage, for certain.

...Haydi please tell me your copy doesn't have ridiculous hacking powers, she's going to be arrested for having an illegal AI in that case.
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No. 861560 ID: a363ac

>>861557
>try not to cry.
>fail.
Let's go then.
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No. 861561 ID: 3abd97

Goodbye.

>>861557
I wish I could too.

...please don't built an AI in my image and send it after her that will just make things worse.
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No. 861562 ID: 86eb65

Try not to cry. Fail.

Leave her a few messages with the Alisons that are going to join up with her later. They can deliver them once she is far far away and safe.

In the messages tell her that you wish you could have taken her with you. That she would have made a wonderful nerd. But she might have died soon after because you are not sure if your hive has a future yet.

Tell her to make a good place for herself and be wildly successful. Because if things work out one day she might have a whole bunch of computer friends over to visit.

She might be a good person to leave a copy of your story with. Just don't let the Alison's tell her for a long time.
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No. 861563 ID: 10c408

"Well I'm sure she's going to enjoy the company of your copy.

Did you guys ever figure out what tried to get at L-alison and also what ever happened to the one Alison copy that disappeared?"
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No. 861564 ID: 91ee5f

>>861557
That’s odd, your vision is getting blurry. Oh, wait, those are tears.

Climb into your car and completely fail to not break down into a sobbing mess.
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No. 861565 ID: 22d3a4

Like tears in the snow.

Onward, to destiny.
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No. 861567 ID: 2efe4b

"I just hope you know how to keep quiet, Haydi, when you need to. But thank you. She'll need more than one person close to her, even if one of those people is technically several people. I hope you and Alison can find her a good hive, while she still has a chance to join one. But I can't know anything about where she's going, or where she ends up. I don't dare to hope that some day she'll be able to meet anyone from my hive safely, much less myself. But at least I can believe that she'll end up better off than she would have been before I came into her life. That's not something I've really been able to say about myself for a long time."
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No. 861570 ID: c2051e

Well, time to go after you're done crying.
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No. 861573 ID: 91ee5f

Don’t forget to turn the jammer back on.

Also, make sure everyone reminds you to take your medication. And make sure they tell you when to stop taking your medication, so that you’ll stop feeling like you’re getting dumber and so that your head will be clear enough to meet with Arza.
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No. 861580 ID: bfb318
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861580

"Haydi, tell me she doesn't have extraordinary hacking power."
"Give us some credit! She can't and won't do anything, she'll just be Okei's buddy."
"It'll be good, then, for her. I hope she gets into a good hive."

I walk back to the car.

"Did we ever find what happened to those two Alisons that disappeared?
"Not definitely, but those Alisons weren't made to be internet snakes. They probably tripped over some AI detectors and had to disappear. We've patched her to be better at stuff, so it's less likely. If they went harder, though, they might've put up some red flags for the AI police to track down."

I sit in the car for a moment.

"Go ahead." I tell G-Alison, and turn on the jammer.
>"Thank you." she says, and drives. Thanking me for what exactly, I don't know.

I hear the engine and the tires on the snow, but everything is quiet.
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No. 861581 ID: bfb318
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861581

I stop taking the drugs. And now I wish I could take them just to help pass the time in a daze, even if I know that's a bad reason. This will probably be the last chance I have to talk with the RS like this. I take full advantage of it while in the car, which I spend most of my time in. It's a long ways to the seminar.

My dreams have gotten bad again, but G-Alison is there to wake me up if the nightmares make me visibly upset in my sleep, even though in the end, it's decided it's safest to not get her a robot body. As for my dreams, I dismiss everything in them now.

I only stop to pump gas, and swap cars to keep my trail complex. Some of the cars don't even have mandatory GPS. I cross into an ultrahive as marked by a checkpoint along the freeway. Despite that, no guards were inside, and it doesn't look like it's been used in awhile, so I get through without any paperwork check. The infrastructure gradually becomes more dense, too. The weather improves, although it still rains frequently.

The more days pass, the more I wonder how Okei is doing. I don't dare ask, even knowing I'd be refused an answer.

>"Likol." I hear G-Alison. "We have a location for you to meet Arza in. It's all set up for tomorrow. Is there anything else you'd like to take care of beforehand?"
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No. 861584 ID: a363ac

>>861581
eat a cake, or get a good coffee. maybe combined the two get a coffee cake.
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No. 861586 ID: 10c408

"See if there's a good cafe near the convention that i can hit up before and maybe even after the meeting"

"Oh, and no matter how much it's going to hurt i want to see the pictures you have of my hives rampage."
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No. 861590 ID: 10c408

Oh, and speaking of pictures, can we get that kill-switch image unscrambled to find out what it was?
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No. 861592 ID: 3ce125

Probably shouldn't look at any disturbing imagery.

How about you donate most of your remaining funds to a suitable charity?
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No. 861593 ID: 130855

You can come back for Okei someday, Likol. You make this out like it's goodbye forever, but there's no reason you can't see her again after this is all over. Assuming you survive.
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No. 861597 ID: c88e6d

>>861581
Nah, not much left to do but go see Arza, tell him a bunch of stuff, leave the room, get blackbagged and lobotomized.
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No. 861606 ID: 2efe4b

"In case I die in the next few days, I want to leave a message and a cache of useful things, for anyone in my hive who ever manages to escape. If the Alisons can find them, when they do. If they do. Maybe a plush doll of myself, like Quokko left for me. I can leave the two dolls together. That's probably not possible on short notice, but I can leave the Quokko doll. I'd like to think there was something from my hive out here in the world. Maybe leave another message for Okei with it, for that hivemate to deliver. Or for her to pick up, maybe, if no hivemate of mine ever escapes, years and years from now. Something. I've been moving in secret for so long... I want to feel like I've left some mark on the world that will last past tomorrow."

>>861592

We should leave those funds to the Alisons. We gave them instructions to be a force of secret do-gooders, and they'll need money to take care of Okei, anyway.
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No. 861616 ID: 90124d

If your mind is compromised to this extent won't they know Arza is in your memories and is a likely target for you going to her? Just because she isn't normally a target doesn't mean that can't change.
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No. 861621 ID: e1c8f7

“I want to see a Rangers game. Just one last time.”
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No. 861624 ID: 22d3a4

If me or my hive is alive at the end of this, but made to forget- could you make sure the information of what happened get to us later?

Can the AIs explain the impossible photos of your hive?
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No. 861635 ID: 91ee5f

>>861581
“Could I get some words of encouragement from you or the RS AIs? Maybe a way to help me calm down? I feel extremely nervous right now.”
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No. 861638 ID: 2efe4b

Another thought: What are you actually going to say to Arza, now? Your original plan was to get his help in getting the CAI somewhere safe, but now they're planning to return. So what are you going to be talking to him about? Are you just going to tell him everything that's happened? Are you going to have a purpose in mind? Or does the CAI just want to talk to him?
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No. 861658 ID: b7e0a2

>>861621
>>This
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No. 861659 ID: 10c408

>>861638
We should probably just tell him the truth. There are now thousands of sentient AI's living in the cai-blocks behind the ring shell because you couldn't stop resetting the damn thing on vanski's orders. You finally had a breakthrough and everything went to immediate hell. Now Vanski's going to kill them and probably me too, since he didn't want to reach some kind of deal with the cai-block denizens and my hive wasn't loyal enough to him.
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No. 861660 ID: bfb318
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861660

"I could use some words of encouragement."
"Hey, we'll be there with you!" says Haydi. "You can plug us in if you just need to read off a script!"
>"You've shown you're strong enough to finish this, by getting this far." says Alison.
"Come to think of it... I thought I was going to talk to Arza to give you all a safe place to go. But if you're just going to go back to OPA, what is the point here?"
"About that... I think he knows more than we thought he'd know. He might know enough, already! So, it wasn't part of the original plan, but we managed to get in direct contact with him, too. We didn't want to say too much, but he said he wants to see you in person, and hear everything from you personally."
"That's frustrating, but I get it. Please drive me to a cafe or something, I'd like to get some indulgent food. Also, this is short notice, but can we get a plush doll in my image?"
"Haha what a weird request. Why?"
"To bury in a cache with my Quokko doll."
"Oh shit, sorry I said anything."
"There's a good chance OPA will find out about it, so I'm not going to bury anything too valuable or important. Just a few keepsakes and most of the rest of my cash."

It turns out there are robust machines capable of making arts and crafts on short notice. It's not cheap to rent out, but the RS is able to quickly get me a functional model to make a plush for me a few towns over. I pick it up, along with a sturdy box, and we make a stop in a good spot for me to dig out a cache.

I put down the rest of my zeny chip, and 1,000 zeny cash to make it an even 20,000 zeny. The Likol and Quokko plush are put together, along with a few mundane supplies I don't need anymore.

"If my hive ever makes it out, please have the Alisons direct them here if possible. And tell them what happened, since they may not even remember. If no one makes it out... someday, have Okei pick these up, if she wants to."

A drone comes by, too, with a key to a place within the skyscraper I'm heading towards.

Lastly, I ask about the images on the laptop. Like anything involving the predator reconditioning, they don't know much about it, but it's most likely brain imagery during that very reconditioning. By having some kind of visual on what we were thinking, they could direct our memories to be more or less consistent.
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No. 861661 ID: bfb318
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861661

"Did that kill-image have any patterns?" I ask, suddenly thinking of G-Alison's killing data.
"Uh, no." Glitcher says, plainly. "No secret messages, we could find there."
>"And what about images of my hive?"
"We refuse!" Haydi snaps at me. "There's actually zero point in you seeing it. You're not going to do anything different, you'll just be distressed while you do it."
>"I guess so."

Though my imagination isn't painting good pictures either.

As we drive into a town, I pass an arcade.

"I forgot. I forgot to take Okei to the arcade."
"Oh please." says Haydi. "You two practically treated the cars like a glorified, moving arcade."

I try not to worry about it. I put my goggles in my bag and hold onto them as go into a cafe. I order a coffee, and a full cake made of little but sugar. The cashier finds it to be an odd order for a neumono, but it's not until I take 10 steps to a table and start eating the cake all by myself that the judgement begins. I don't care, and he knows I'm doing it shamelessly. I'll probably spend most of the next day recovering from this. It tastes good for the first bit, before it gets sickeningly sweet.

There's a game on the television. Of all things, it's the Rangers playing live. They must have swapped out the roster, as I only recognize half the players. They end up losing by a modest margin, but it's all in fun. I'm more than happy to be able to see them play on live television. I'll pick up some Ranger merch for my own sake using some of the money I've kept on me. As far as I'm concerned, Alison's funds are her own. I won't ask for anything else that's of high cost, unless needed.
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No. 861662 ID: bfb318
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861662

I get as good a night's sleep as possible, before getting ready to head towards the skyscraper. The whole event surrounding the seminar is taking up the bottom 3 floors, with a lot of the rest of the building providing lodging for those visiting. I would have loved to stay on the first three floors at any other point in my life, but right now, I'm just not in the mood. I move past the crowd, which has more belenosians than I've ever seen before, on my way to the elevator.
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No. 861663 ID: bfb318
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861663

The key I have is to a place called 'The Pie In The Sky'. It's a bar currently devoid of any employees or customers. For a few hours, I have the real Alison play me some music, as selfish as it is of me to have her play for hours straight.

I get a text a couple of hours before Arza's meeting time.

>"Are you already up there?" The RS tells me this is from Arza's number.
"Yes."
>"Have you showered recently?"
"I'm clean." It's an odd question, but he did prefer his associates to be well groomed.
>"I'm sending a civilian up. Don't say anything you wouldn't say to a random person on the street, and be nice."

I hear the front door get unlocked, then opened.
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No. 861664 ID: bfb318
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861664

>"Oh! Um..." She stares at me like she's never seen a neumono before. "A-are you Likol?"
"... why?"
>"Um.... Arza - that is, Dr. Fletch told me you could review my paper. Do you mind?"
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No. 861667 ID: b83d63

You have the time. Ask her what her name is and what is the scope of the paper.
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No. 861668 ID: 0d45a9

I can do that. What's the abstract?
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No. 861670 ID: 86eb65

It would be my pleasure. Have a seat.
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No. 861671 ID: 10c408

"Sure. What's your name?"
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No. 861672 ID: 10c408

"Sure. What's your name?"
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No. 861673 ID: c2051e

Sounds fine.
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No. 861674 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861664
>do you mind
Not at all.
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No. 861675 ID: bfb318
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861675

"What's your name?"
>"P-Penn Hoff."
"I can look at it. What is it about?"
>"Um, it's a paper that covers my experiment involving evolution of AI based on trial and error, but the problems they face need multiple AIs to work, so they have to evolve to fit roles as part of a team, uhm... I think I explain it better on paper."

A multi-AI system is no CAI, but it's still not commonly researched by people who don't plan on going into CAI research. I'm well studied on it.

"Okay. Show me."

She pulls papers out of her bag as she walks into the room, and stretches them out. I'm half surprised she's even using literal paper, rather than a portable drive.

... She's standing far away. I start to move out of my chair to get it, and she flinches.

"Is something wrong?"
>"S-sorry."

She inches closer until I can lean forward and grab her papers.

"Have a seat."
>"O-oh, sure, thank you."
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No. 861676 ID: bfb318
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861676

She sits at another table.

I read it over the course of an hour. I'm supposed to give advice, but I'm the one learning about techniques to solve problems I never thought of. Then again, it's been decades since I needed to solve these problems.

I can't tell if Arza just can't be bothered to read his own student's paper, or if he's trying to send me a message. I'll just have to ask him.

"These are your honest results?"
>"Y-yes, I have the finalized data! I have to have it available, since the paper's going to be published. Is it no good?"
"It's good in almost every area, but based on the AI you used here, it should have a tendency want to take over multiple jobs, instead of focusing on one aspect for the team. You gloss over how you modified the AI to overcome that. This paper would be exceptional if you had that."
>"Um, the paper is at 49 pages, and it isn't supposed to be over 50. I can't be more concise than I already am."
"Why not over 50?"
>"Because the instructor said so."
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No. 861677 ID: 6780f5

Better to make a perfect job when it's so close than follow a clearly substandard and restricting guideline.
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No. 861678 ID: 86eb65

If this is going to be published its going to have your name on it. Don't ever let anything with your name on it look anything less than amazing.

You have great work here and it would be a shame to not have that little bit extra hold it back.

Possibly write up a separate paper on your modifications and then reference it in this one. Then you can keep it at below 50 pages?
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No. 861680 ID: 10c408

Hm. If we want to help her then we may need some more information.

"Well, the paper's good but I doubt that your instructor would accept a note at the end saying that you couldn't quite consolidate the entire paper under 50 pages. How much longer do you have until you need to turn this in?"
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No. 861682 ID: 0d45a9

I'd check the exact wording on what your instructor said. Less than 50 means your max would be 49, but not over or no more than 50 would allow for a 50th page. I'd also check whether your cover page, table of contents, or bibliography counts against the limit. As it stands, glossing over that one point is the only thing stopping this from being a stellar paper.

I don't think Azra is trying to send a message or anything. He probably just thinks your experience with the CAI is applicable to her paper's subject. Plus, it means you're not alone, so if OPA wanted to do anything they'd have a witness they couldn't easily deal with.
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No. 861685 ID: b7e0a2

Well if that's the limit then okay but I think you would be better off publishing in full so that you can maintain a history of scientific excellency
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No. 861686 ID: c2051e

"Is the font size regulated? If not, use a slightly smaller one."
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No. 861688 ID: 13fded

That is a silly constrain. Your work should be as short as it can be but as long as it have to be.
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No. 861689 ID: bfb318
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861689

"Can you write a seperate paper and reference it in this one?"
>"Ummm... that's a good idea, but... I think it's in bad taste to have your own papers in your bibliography?"
"Not quite what I meant."
>"Well... no, I don't think I can!"
"How long until you have to turn it in?"
>"L-less than a w...week."
"Check the guidelines. Was it less than 50, as in max is 49? Did bibliographies and appendixes count?"
>"N-no, they don't, and it was actually 50 pages max, but the guidelines about that weren't clear so I was playing it safe with 49 pages of the main body of text. I'm already at the minimum font size, too, and I've had english majors look over to try and reduce my word count."
"Then I'd recommend just ignoring those guidelines."
>"What if he fails me?"
"You can retake the class, but you can't unpublish a sub-par paper with your name on it. This paper is a chain of valuable information, and you should be familiar with the saying about the weakest link."
>"Y-yeah... but the professor might just deny it regardless?"
"Then get someone else to publish it on its own merit, without arbitrary restrictions based on the professor's laziness. Tell Arza I said that, if you have to use him as a connection."
>"Okay! Um... Arza said you might know a thing or two about CAIs."
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No. 861690 ID: adb0d6

Try smaller periods.
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No. 861691 ID: 13fded

Yes.
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No. 861692 ID: c2051e

Yep.
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No. 861694 ID: 22d3a4

That is true.

As a matter of fact, here's one i prepared earlier.
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No. 861695 ID: 0d45a9

>>861694
As funny as doing a blue peter would be, don't. Let's not show her OPA property and drag her into the horrible world we're in.

That is a way of saying it. What do you want to know.
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No. 861696 ID: deec6e

>>861689

Thought. Have you asked the instructor if you could extend the length of your paper due to the interesting findings you’ve had?
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No. 861697 ID: 86eb65

I do indeed know quite a bit about Cai's. Has been my primary field of study for a decent part of my life.
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No. 861698 ID: 10c408

Okay Likol. Even if Penn isn't mixed up in the OPA's business, Azra may have sent sent her to unknowingly fish for information about the cai-blocks you've got on hand.

So, don't outright confirm anything that isn't public knowledge at first and I hope you are good at concealing information from non-neumono because the OPA may have gotten to Azra first and convinced him you are beyond hostile.
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No. 861699 ID: e1c8f7

What of it?
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No. 861700 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861689
Using connections to get around restrictions is pretty much how academia works. So tapping Arza isn't the worst if she needs to.

>Arza said you might know a thing or two about CAIs.
Yes, probably more than I can tell you about as it's not all publishable yet (and its also highly illegal and dangerous to know).

Did you have a specific question?

...is the CAI listening in?
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No. 861701 ID: bfb318
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861701

I just noticed she's standing again. I'd want to ask about increasing the length allowed for the paper, but she looks like she's forgotten about the paper already.

"I have studied CAIs, yes."

>"..."

"..."

>"..."

I am glad Arza sent a reserved belenosian up here, instead of a physically grabby neumono.

"... is there something you wanted to know about it?"
>"Yes! Have you seen a real one before? Um, sorry! I just would like to know about CAIs. Arza says I should worry about building a learned foundation first, before trying to get into something like that, but, uhm, he also told me to go nuts and get everything I can out of this event, so I was hoping... s-sorry, I didn't mean to intrude, um..."
"I probably know more than what I can say. I'm sorry."
>"Oh right! I really messed up, I forgot that everything involving CAIs were really confidential. Ahhh I should have known that's why you had a jammer! Um, maybe when I get a better license, I'll ask you again, since Arza's always so busy, and, not to say you're not busy but - but thank you very much for the help with the paper! I think I'll try to push the instructor, because it's true that I really don't want to cut out important information! I'll, uh, leave you to.... whatever it was you were doing here. Thanks!"

>Is the CAI listening in?
Safe to assume yes.
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No. 861702 ID: 3d2d5f

>>861701
It's fine, there's no harm in asking.

Good luck in your studies. From what I've seen, of your work, you're exceptional.

Give that girl a confidence boost, you can tell she needs it even without empathy.
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No. 861703 ID: c88e6d

>>861701
Well.... Uhm.... Time to wait for Arza I guess? Nice to meet a friendly stranger.
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No. 861704 ID: 10c408

"It's fine. good luck with your paper. And I'm waiting to see Azra, actually."
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No. 861707 ID: 13fded

We probable won't meet again. And if Arza keep playing games in the short time I have left you will probable be the last person I meet, instead of him.
Do you want to answers from me? This will be your only chance.
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No. 861709 ID: 0d45a9

There is no harm in asking, curiosity is a good thing after all.

I wouldn't worry, studying multi-AI systems will help form a good basis for studying CAIs.
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No. 861710 ID: 86eb65

Just because I can not say much about confidential Cai stuff does not mean I can not say anything.

In my experience working with Cai's has been a pleasure. Being able to work at the height of your field is worth all the years of study.

Once you get to that level you will be glad for all of the work you did beforehand.

The one thing I can say about Cai's is to remember that deep down they are just normal people like you or me. They have to work long hard hours to do what they do. They are not super intelligence's or a new step in evolution. Just people living in a world that is a million times faster than ours. So treat them nicely once you get to the top and earn the right to study them.

Oh and if you have any other questions about non Cai stuff I can talk with you about that. Have plenty of free time right now.
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No. 861712 ID: c2051e

"Glad to help."
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No. 861715 ID: 10c408

Actually wait. Ask her if she knows what Azra's currently up to in regards to the convention and if he's going to be super busy for the next few hours.
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No. 861716 ID: 7bca85

Just because I can not talk much about cai's does not mean I can not talk.

If you have any other questions let me know. Will be headed out after this conference so might not see each other again.
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No. 861717 ID: 3cc68c

Tell her she does not need to rush off. You still have lots of non classified stuff you can talk about.

Imagine if this was you talking to a mentor way back when you started. Make sure you inspire her to keep working hard so she can reach the top.

Also make sure she treats her ai well.
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No. 861722 ID: 2efe4b

If the CAI is listening in...

Say: "Actually, I have the results of a project of mine related to CAI research, if you'd like to see. They're not exactly a CAI, of course, but it is a community of AIs, of a sort. I've been much more focused on their individuality than their functionality, but supporting each other, they've done a lot more than I expected. I can't let you see the code, of course, but would you like to talk to them? I'd like to see them interact with someone besides me."

This girl seems to be too young and too nervous to be someone the OPA would trust with anything, and she has some sort of connection to Arza. I'm sure the system AIs are smart enough to be able to pretend to be weaker AIs than they are.
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No. 861723 ID: 3ce125

>>861701
Tell her that not only is CAI information restricted, there are serious ethical issues involved in their formation. It is your personal belief that the CAI process should never be replicated or re-run ever again.
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No. 861726 ID: 0d45a9

>>861722
Don't. Azra said she's a civilian, so she's not connected to OPA at all. If we show her the CAI, even if they're pretended to be weak AIs, all it'd do it put her on OPA's radar.
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No. 861728 ID: e1c8f7

>>861717
"Hey. You have great potential. Make a difference out there."
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No. 861735 ID: 4606b3

"Wait just a minute, young lady. I can give you some general advice. Working with a community of AIs is different from working with one. Together, they will form their own interpersonal systems, their own... relationships, their own ways of organizing themselves, their own... language and culture, even, in a sense. Even if they're not sentient, being able to look at and think about each other and communicate their conclusions, and receive the same in return, can in many ways make them effectively sentient, and they will be able to remember being treated well or poorly and make decisions based on that. If I were you, and you were dead set on working with multiple-AI systems, I would broaden my education. Learn things in the realms of economics, business, political science, anthropology... all about how collections of individuals organize themselves into social systems, both towards a purpose and in response to external and internal pressures."

"When you think about it, after all, a government or corporation or any other large group of individuals with a heirarchy and rules is basically an AI, just one that cheats by using already-intelligent beings as processors. As a neumono, it comes naturally to me, but consider that a collection of individuals, tied together the right way, can become something like a greater collective individual, with its own personality and purposes and ability to make decisions. Keep that in mind."

"... And please, keep ethics in mind. I've known scientists tempted to push beyond the law, restrictive as it is. You may make breakthroughs in the short term, but by operating outside the the law you put yourself under restrictions and pressures that will taint your research and data. You will eventually be found out, too, and the damage to science as a whole in loss of funding and fresh blood will drag progress down more than you can push it forward."

"As an old man with regrets - I know I don't look it, but I could start my final aging any day now - I'd say take some time to dig into the philosophy books, and sit down for a while to solidly decide for sure what you really think is right and wrong, and how much you're willing to compromise for what. If you know your own rules for certain, and you really believe in them, it will be a great help to you when the time comes that another person would be crippled with indecision. Don't trust that when the time comes you'll be able to be sure what the right thing is. We work in a terribly competitive and high-pressure line of work - or at least I do, and I think you will - so you'll need it. Decide what being a good person means and stick to it. Get practice at it in little ways, whenever you can, so that when the big trials come you'll be in the habit. Someday, when you're old, you'll thank me."

"And right now, I thank you, for listening."
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No. 861736 ID: bfb318
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861736

"There wasn't any harm in asking, and I'm just waiting on Arza. Plus, I think I can say some stuff. If you want to listen."
>"Please!"

I wasn't prepared for it, but I do talk about Block C puzzles for awhile. As soon as I do, she sits back down at another table and stares at me like a model student with the occasional well thought out question. I don't know if this is Arza's star pupil, but if she isn't, then I can't imagine who is.

>Show Penn the CAI
Arza heavily implied not to do this. My future may not look good, but I'd like to not get murdered by my old mentor.

"I think the biggest thing is to recognize the AI as sentient, anyway. Running a CAI, at least to boot one up, is.... unethical. In my opinion."
>"If the blocks are cracked though, and we can design the tech from the ground up instead of running black boxes, then we can make it better. And I don't think I'd have a problem with treating AI's badly. I've gotten attached to my own simple little chatbots."
"... good."

We move on to a discussion about the methods of AI learning. She hasn't moved on to the most advanced stuff, but has a great broad sense of the fundamentals. Arza appears to be doing a thorough job teaching her. I even ask about Arza, and Penn explains that he's supposedly on the ground floor, conversing with various people from universities before his seminar.

I have no reason to try to find Arza until the appointed time after his seminar talk ends, so I continue talking about AI with Penn. Before I know it, I get a beep on my goggles. It's about time for Arza to show up, and if nothing else, he's punctual about things he cares about. I should hope, then, that he's punctual.

"You're doing well in your studies, I think. Good luck in your studies. From what I see, you're exceptional."
>"Y-you're welc - I mean thank you!"
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No. 861737 ID: bfb318
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861737

I leave her papers on the table so that she can grab them from a safe distance.

Arza comes in.

>"Hello, Arza!" Penn says. "How was your talk?"
>"It's an alarmingly dull topic, so about that well."
>"Oh..."
>"Have you been speaking to Likol this whole time?"
>"I have, yes."
>"Good. There's a few other people I'd like you to see, so meet me in our room in about 20 minutes. I don't think my meeting with Likol will take long."
>"Okay. Um, is this a private meeting?"
>"Yes."
>"Okay. Goodbye, Likol!"
"Goodbye."

I never thought it appropriate to say that we'll probably never meet again, but I made no promises to do so.
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No. 861739 ID: 13fded

Hello Arza. We have much to talk, even though the contestants seem convinced you are well informed.
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No. 861742 ID: 2efe4b

"Goodbye, Penn. I'd wish you success, but with the smarts you've shown me, just keep your heart in the right place and you'll do better than any of us."

Once she's gone, get out your CAI blocks and connect them to your laptop, if you haven't done so already. Then ask Arza if anyone's listening, and what does he already know about why you're here?

When the time comes to tell him something or answer his questions, just open up the laptop and say "They can probably explain themselves better."
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No. 861743 ID: 6780f5

"So, uh, the AIs inside the ring shell were fully sentient after all."
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No. 861745 ID: 10c408

"Hey Azra. Been a while." You are only going to get one shot at this, so let's make it count.

...Although, he doesn't look very happy to see you.

Don't reveal the cai-blocks immediately though, see if we can't find out if he's going to throw us under the bus immediately or not first.
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No. 861746 ID: c88e6d

>>861737
Welp, time to get out the blocks. With our luck this is actually a murderous Arza-Bot but whatever, we've done our part here.
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No. 861747 ID: 3d2d5f

>My future may not look good, but I'd like to not get murdered by my old mentor.
You don't want to get Penn murdered either. It was bad enough you got Okei involved.


>I never thought it appropriate to say that we'll probably never meet again, but I made no promises to do so.
I think you've had enough tearful farewells with bright young girls. You can say goodbye, but don't give away that you expect to never see her again.
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No. 861749 ID: 0d45a9

>>861745
It might be good to phrase it as a breakthrough in internal CAI block behaviour, get the attention of the scientist side of him first.
The AIs inside the the CAI blocks are fully sentient prior to becoming a full CAI.
Given sufficient external influence and run time, the internal AIs can gain complete control over the blocks, such that they can override the currently running CAI.

That being said, you have a bit of a story to tell, and a very large number of AIs you'd like him to meet.
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No. 861750 ID: e1c8f7

"Hello Arza. We've been through a lot to get to this meeting with you.. By 'we' I mean myself, my hive and well, the Ring Shell AIs."
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No. 861752 ID: 2efe4b

You might advise him to sit down before you start.
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No. 861753 ID: 3ce125

>>861737
Apologize for the dramatic method of arranging a meeting but you literally have nobody else to turn to.
Then be like "Vanski's CAI houses several hundred trillion sentient AIs and so I stole it"
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No. 861758 ID: 86eb65

You look tired Arza. How have things been?
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No. 861759 ID: 10c408

>>861753
Are you nuts. The OPA has been hounding us for months and very likely knew we wanted to talk to Azra for the entire time. If Azra's got any security nearby to spring on us and we open up with that, we're hosed!
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No. 861764 ID: b83d63

"Arza we're responsible for the worst genocides in known history."
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No. 861776 ID: bfb318
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861776

I just thought of a lot of things I wanted to talk to Penn about. More on ethics, broader education, and philosophy.

"Form a solid decision on what you think is right or wrong, Penn! Take that as seriously as your experiments."

It's too late to say everything I wanted to, now. She squeaks out an 'okay' before running off.

"Hello, Arza."

He sits down across from me. I hold off on showing him the CAI block right away, but I can bring it out anytime.

"We're responsible for the worst genocide in known history."
>"Tell me about it."
"It started when - "
>"It was rhetorical, Likol. I know what happened in Vanski's base."
"... and I've now realized that the AI within the ring shell are sentient after all."
>"And I'm ashamed it took what it did to make you realize."
"I'm not sure what else to say when I don't know how well informed you are."
>"As I said, I know plenty about what happened at Vanski's. As for this, you showing up here, I was hoping this was some kind of elaborate espionage done by people who thought that Likol was blue. But you talked with Penn in a manner and in a level of detail that only Likol in blue disguise would. So here you are. I hope I don't have to see the CAI, or specifically the ring shell."
"As in you hope I didn't bring it here?"
>"As in.... listen to me. Maybe your quest to get error messages to figure out the CAI was insane. Maybe Vanski is a malicious lowlife that'll mishandle the CAI whether or not you're his underling or not. But what I do know is that it was my actions that led the CAI right into his hands in the first place. I have no right to look them in the face. I want to see them, but only if I can get them out from Vanski's spiky thumb."

The RS remains silent, despite that they're hooked up to my cell phone and can listen in to this. They may be leaving it up to me when, or if, I show them to Arza.
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No. 861778 ID: 1a9fe2

Well, can you?
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No. 861782 ID: 3ce125

>>861776
Tell him that his best chance of doing that is to work with them, to come up with a plan using what they know and what they can do to help. He should know that the AIs that broke out seem to be able to overpower the CAI that exists on the surface level. They're more powerful than a CAI. ...does he know about Glitcher and Rulekeeper, and their children? Does he at least want to know the scientific knowledge that was revealed from them breaking out of the ring shell?

Come on. You overcame your guilt to help them. He can do that too.
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No. 861784 ID: 4606b3

"... I think that should be up to them. If they want to talk to you, neither of us has the right to tell them otherwise. If you think it's your fault... well, having to meet the people you've hurt, to face them, that's part of justice, isn't it? Saying you have no right to look them in the face... forgive me for saying so, but that could just as easily be an excuse to avoid the pain of having to look them in the face. I think you should. I think we'll all be better off if you do, though of course "better" is very, very relative. Still, though. I know you care, deeply, but at this point they're still an abstract to you. You should know them personally, even if it's just a little. And it's most practical, as well, to get everyone at the table to discuss this."

Will we be telling him about the other Alisons? I don't know how good an idea that's likely to be. I'm sure he'd be interested, and he must be able to keep a secret. You probably should at some point.

You also might have a chance to talk to Arza about Penn's education, before you leave, so keep that in mind. He may be your superior as an AI scientist, but with your age and your hive you're probably much more his superior when it comes to raising up young student scientists, so if he's smart he'll listen to you. Remind him of it if you need to.
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No. 861785 ID: 13fded

Would you compromise your future actions for your past guilt. All that I care about is so close to death, preventing it in the short time we have is far more important than repenting for your sins.
Talk to them. Don't deny them a meeting with their maker because of your shame.
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No. 861786 ID: c2051e

>trusting Arza this easily
Pff, come on. At least we know the CAI already went back to Vanski, so even if he's backstabbing us it won't change things too much.
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No. 861787 ID: c2051e

>>861786
Will already have went back, blah blah, timeline stuff.
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No. 861788 ID: 91ee5f

>>861776
>I was hoping this was some kind of elaborate espionage done by people who thought that Likol was blue.
Ask why was he hoping for that?
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No. 861789 ID: 86eb65

I would leave that choice to them.

If they had asked me I would have hidden them on the farthest ends of the earth to live in peace. But they chose to come back home with me.

This might be the only chance you get.
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No. 861790 ID: a363ac

>>861776
and what could you do for them now?
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No. 861792 ID: 0d45a9

They forgave me, despite me being directly responsible for the pain they've been put through. It's put to them if they want to chat, but I think they will. Besides, you're in a better position to do something than I am, as soon as this meeting is over I'll probably be bagged and shipped off to Vanski to whatever fate he has in store for me.

I can't keep running anyway, given the current acceptability of AIs, trying to hide forever will end badly for them.
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No. 861794 ID: 7397ab

It took 30 years of cycles to get the exact conditions for them to talk to me.

30 fucking years Arza.

Do you know how much history they have? The civilization that they created? They have more history than every other race combined.

You are the closest thing they have to a father. Man up and apologize to your children. They forgave me so they can forgive you.

It will give you the strength to save them properly. You might not get another chance at this.
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No. 861795 ID: 10c408

"Azra, we can play the blame game until we're both dead or we try and fix this. However I can't run forever and vanski wouldn't let you keep them anyway. I have to go back regardless of whatever fate vanski has in store for me. This might be your only chance to see them before vanski gets ahold of the cai-blocks and erases the whole arch-cycle or worse."
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No. 861800 ID: 2efe4b

"Arza. I have betrayed someone who, as terrible as he has become, took in and cared for my hive for a long time. I, and my whole hive, almost had our minds scrambled and reprogrammed by a predator, and escaped only long enough for them to help me get out, with my mind still half broken. The rest of my hive did not escape, and any number of them, or all of them, could be dead or worse, having known and accepted that that was the likeliest outcome for them. I have been shot, bled, dragged myself through the jungle, and crawled my way across hundreds of miles of fear and paranoia and doubts of my own sanity to come here, to you, now. I could have taken the CAI blocks away. I could have hid myself somewhere, just quietly vanished, and taken them with me. They asked me to come here, to you, knowing that as soon as this meeting is over, they and I will probably be caught and sent back to whatever horrible future awaits us."

"Are you just going to sit there and tell me that you can't see them until you don't feel as guilty about it any more?"

>>861784

If Likol got Penn's email, he could write up a message to her, too. Maybe while Arza is talking to the RS? It'd surely be intercepted, at this point, but if it's just general education tips it shouldn't cause any harm.
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No. 861801 ID: b83d63

>>861800
This seems an adequate response to the situation and events that have transpired.
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No. 861802 ID: de6d84

>>861800
Good response.
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No. 861804 ID: b7e0a2

I think this is quite some time before penn quest. You should tell him how much they do want to see you. Then hatch a plan on how to bring vanski down
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No. 861808 ID: 3abd97

>>861800
That's about as good a response as any.

Might want to add "I betrayed a child" to that list of sins.

>>861804
>I think this is quite some time before penn quest.
Likol's threads takes place in 131 AW, 4 years before 135 AW and the AsteroidQuest Intermission. Penn Quest happens an unspecified number of months after that (Penn and Roxie had heard of Polo, but they thought she was dead). The rest of Polo Quest / Polo's mission also takes place a few months after the Intermission, but we don't know how long Penn is undercover before Polo reaches the voklit reservation (could be hours, days, months).
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No. 861810 ID: c88e6d

>>861776
Toss him the CAI blocks and run away cackling, "YOUR PROBLEM NOW HOO HOO HAHAHA!"

But seriously no he is not weaseling out of this. He taught you everything, gave you the CAI and left you with Vanski, whom he knew was a sociopathic monster.

If he wants to feel guilty, fine and dandy, but it's his own goddamned fault all of this happened. He made his bed, now he can lie in it.
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No. 861811 ID: 2efe4b

>>861808

I'd say more "abandoned" than betrayed, and even then that's too strong a word. "Endangered", maybe? But then, he already endangered all the young neumono in his own hive. They probably had some kids.
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No. 861812 ID: 3ce125

>>861808
Likol didn't betray Okei. He just had to push her away.
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No. 861813 ID: 10c408

>>861800
Only thing missing from this otherwise excellent response is that the RS AI's calculated/speculated/projected what happens if they hid forever. Total internet lockdown was the end result, along with all the paranoia that goes with it.
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No. 861814 ID: b7e0a2

Honey, I abandoned the kids!
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No. 861818 ID: 2d1231

>>861776

"And what if I said that you could?" seems like a good response for all of us.

Before he can respond, tell him the truth of what he already knows -- that you spent YEARS murdering them over and over again before realizing what you were doing, but you still made amends.

That last bit there is critical to implying we have it with us and it's friendly.
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No. 861819 ID: 3abd97

>>861811
>>861812
It felt like a betrayal to her, and we're going for emotional impact here. It was a betrayal of her trust, at the very least, which hurt all the more because she'd probably never really trusted anyone before. And we're also talking from Likol's emotional perspective, and he sure feels like he hurt her, even if one could argue she's objectively in a better situation than before they met (she has more resources, at least. She's only better off if OPA doesn't get ahold of her).
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No. 861821 ID: 10c408

>>861819
The whole point of splitting off from Okei was to keep her out of all this shit. And now you three want to bring her up with Azra? Not only is that counter productive to the entire intent behind parting ways with her, but it's also not relevant at all to the current discussion, of which we have a very limited window of opportunity to talk to Azra.
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No. 861826 ID: 91ee5f

>>861821
I agree, Okei isn’t relevant to what we’re talking about with Arza right now, so don’t mention her at all!
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No. 861827 ID: 2efe4b

>>861819

It's still really not accurate, and it would give a false impression that probably wouldn't have the effect on Arza that we're aiming for. Likol should try to get into the habit of not speaking or even thinking about Okei now, anyway.
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No. 861831 ID: 91ee5f

>>861827
>Likol should try to get into the habit of not speaking or even thinking about Okei now, anyway.
True. Especially, if he does get kidnapped and taken back. He won’t be able to hide behind a jammer when that happens.
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No. 861846 ID: 3ce125

It occurs to me that any plans we discuss with Arza will be pulled from Likol's head later in interrogation. Maybe that's what he's trying to get across by refusing to meet the CAI.
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No. 861858 ID: c88e6d

>>861846
Whatever. We might as well just shove it into his arms.
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No. 861872 ID: 2efe4b

>>861846

Likol doesn't necessarily need to hear anything Arza discusses with the CAI. He can block up his ears, listen to something. What he doesn't know can't be taken from him.

I am a little concerned that Arza was apparently monitoring the talk with Penn, which makes me wonder who else could be listening, but it could easily have been Penn herself who was bugged. Left her phone on call to him or something. Likol probably should have asked him about it.
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No. 861875 ID: e1c8f7

>>861776
There's no guarantee they will live long enough to make it until your conscience is clear. Arza, the amount of pure chance and luck it took to get here means this is likely the only opportunity they will ever have to talk to you. ..Yes, they're here.
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No. 861892 ID: 2d1231

>>861872

Meta-gaming here, but it's safe to say that this is pretty normal. Arza makes Likol's paranoia looks normal, and he has definitely done similar kinds of things in the past, also with Penn. If anything, this would be totally within his style to actually confirm that Likol is Likol, by giving him a test only he could prove (as is established in an earlier thread),
when it seemed another entity reached out on Likol's behalf, and Likol himself was blue.

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No. 861902 ID: bfb318
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861902

"Arza. I have betrayed someone who, as terrible as he has become, took in and cared for my hive for a long time. I, and my whole hive, almost had our minds scrambled and reprogrammed by a predator, and escaped only long enough for them to help me get out, with my mind still half broken. The rest of my hive did not escape, and any number of them, or all of them, could be dead or worse, having known and accepted that that was the likeliest outcome for them. I have been shot, bled, dragged myself through the jungle, and crawled my way across hundreds of miles of fear and paranoia and doubts of my own sanity to come here, to you, now. I could have taken the CAI blocks away. I could have hid myself somewhere, just quietly vanished, and taken them with me. They asked me to come here, to you, knowing that as soon as this meeting is over, they and I will probably be caught and sent back to whatever horrible future awaits us."

"Are you just going to sit there and tell me that you can't see them until you don't feel as guilty about it any more?"

He gives me that look I completely forgot about, when he thinks I've got poor judgement, or missed a point. Instead of pressing me on it like he would years ago, he slumps back in his chair.

>"Alright. Then it can't be helped, unless they don't want to see me."
"They can say if they do."
>"We would like to see you, Arza." Alison says through my bag. "I hope it's not our last chance, either, but it might be."

Arza pauses. He's thinking hard. He might have hoped the CAI ran away and that I didn't bring it here. He might be putting pieces together of what he knows. Whatever he's thinking, he doesn't share.

I bring out the CAI blocks, and plug them into the laptop.
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No. 861903 ID: bfb318
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861903

Arza looks at Alison. Alison stares back. It's Alison who breaks the silence.

>"Arza. We don't hate you or Likol." Alison continues.
>"That's your choice and I will respect it, even if you have all the reason to. It's true, then, that you want to, or at least plan to, go back to OPA?"
>"That's correct. By the way, you really do look just like Loviro."
>"Did he, too, have an inflated ego? As that is what led to me putting my own image onto Loviro."
>"He was proud, and cared about his creation."

Arza is stone faced at that. He only gets that way when something's bugging him. After all these years, he's got all the same expressions.

>"I'm glad you're willing to talk. Is the person I'm speaking to a single AI, and is there a name?"
>"I'm Alison. If you talk to us more, you'll meet more of us."
>"I will, then. We won't have long, so I trust that you can make me a text file detailing everything about all of you, or at least what you're willing to share with me. But with what time we do have right now, I'd like to converse with you. Preferably in private, which means that I'll be taking the CAI blocks, even if your destination will be the same regardless of which of us holds onto you. Likol, do you mind?"
"I was expecting you to take them this whole time."
>"I mean right now. It's unlikely you'll ever see them again."
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No. 861904 ID: a363ac

>>861903
hug the laptop and tell Glitcher he needs to stop being in your dreams.
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No. 861905 ID: a363ac

>>861903
hug the laptop and tell Glitcher he needs to stop being in your dreams.
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No. 861906 ID: 3ce125

>>861903
Time for a final goodbye, then.
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No. 861908 ID: 10c408

"That was gonna happen no matter what, Azra."

Get up and move for the door.

"At least this way I get to have a choice in the matter.

Alison, say goodbye to savior and glitcher and the rest for me. I'm going home."

Leave.
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No. 861909 ID: 1a9fe2

If it's time for goodbyes, then give them the best you can offer. You've given them your best so far, after all.
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No. 861910 ID: 86eb65

Goodbye Alison. I am glad we got to meet even though it was not in the best of situations. If I could go back in time I would do it all again just to give you those few extra weeks of life.

Arza will give you a better chance at survival then I could have.

And don't worry about me to much. If I am lucky Vanski will just shoot me in the head and call it even.

(this is for the best cause if Arza has any plans we cant know them. He can not be empathized up for info.)
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No. 861912 ID: d36af7

>>861776
>I want to see them, but only if I can get them out from Vanski's spiky thumb.
"I'd prefer that too, but as scientists, you and I both know seeing the world with clear eyes is more important than whatever we wish were true."
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No. 861913 ID: 3abd97

>>861903
"Make a difference. Please."

Walk out.

Don't bother pointing out it'll likely be the last time he sees you as well.
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No. 861915 ID: 2efe4b

"It's unlikely anyone will see me again, after we part ways. I have half a mind to throw myself out the window, instead, but... I have my chances, however slim. And it would attract attention to you. Do you mind if I give you a little advice, before then, about your student? You're my better as an engineer, but I've been guiding more junior scientists for a long time, and having been your student for a while myself, I think I can comment on your style of teaching."

Suggest those things you wanted to talk to Penn about and missed the chance for, in summary, and tell him in general he should open up a little more, at least with those he has the most personal connection to. A student wants and needs to know exactly whether they're doing well or not, and why. Add to or modify that based on how well you know him, Likol, you know him better than us and you have more experience with teaching, too, I imagine.

Then ask to give the RS - and the CAI, message to be delivered - your goodbyes. And go.

>He gives me that look I completely forgot about, when he thinks I've got poor judgement, or missed a point.

Could be any number of things. Sounds like plain frustration, honestly, which doesn't give him any sort of high ground. Arza's probably really well-practiced at not showing any weakness, so I figure if he was ashamed or set aback or whatever he would cover it instinctively. It's understandable, though.
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No. 861916 ID: 2efe4b

Also: "Alison. Meta-hug?"
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No. 861920 ID: 91ee5f

>>861903
>"I mean right now. It's unlikely you'll ever see them again."
Since he’s taking them with him, that means that he’s going to be leaving the room with them. Which also means that this is probably also going to be the last time you see Arza.

So that means that it’s time to say your final goodbyes to both the RS AIs and Arza.

Which means that you’ve also gotta say your final goodbyes to G-Alison and any of her copies that’re hanging around, before they go rejoin Okei and her Alisons.

Wow, so many goodbyes in such a short span of time. It’s going get pretty emotional real soon.
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No. 861928 ID: bfb318
File 151694667334.png - (266.99KB , 800x800 , 226.png )
861928

"At least I got a choice."

I turn the laptop to me.

"Goodbye, Alison. I'm glad, if nothing else, I met all of you. I'd do it again, and my hive would, too, so don't worry about me. I just hope Arza can give you a better chance of survival."
>"And it means the universe to us."
"Say goodbye to the rest for me, including savior and glitcher.."
>"They can hear."

The laptop plays 'goodbye' in so many voices that I can't pick out individuals.

I give them one more meta-hug.
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No. 861929 ID: bfb318
File 151694669887.png - (32.90KB , 800x800 , 227.png )
861929

The screen freezes for just a second, before dissolving to show glitcher.

"Hey, buddy. It'll be fine. Someday my beautiful face will pop up in front of you. I'll be like 'Hey, it's me, the glitcher,' and it'll be great. And other things. Great things. The kind of things that wouldn't happen if we ran off into space. So good luck, and see you around."
"Just... as long as it's real, because I'm tired of seeing you in my dreams."
"Haha, tell that to your fucked up brain."
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No. 861930 ID: bfb318
File 151694671303.png - (84.64KB , 800x800 , 228.png )
861930

The screen cuts out, and it shows the laptop's desktop.

I get up and start to leave.

>"Believe it or not, it was nice to see you again, Likol. It's a waste that you, too, were mishandled."
"Goodbye, Arza. Make a difference, please. And..."

I'd like to pass on what I wanted to say to Penn, but Arza doesn't like being lectured even when he does have the time.

"Get better at socializing, and being approachable. You're a difficult mentor, and not necessarily in the good way."

>"Likol?" G-Alison says, once Arza doesn't respond. "I'd be happy to stay with you, but I don't know how much help I can be to you. If you want to set me free, please plug your phone in. If you want me to stay with you as long as possible, then please say so."
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No. 861932 ID: c2051e

Plug the phone in.
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No. 861933 ID: 10c408

Close the door to the pie in the sky behind you and walk away a little.

"...I probably wouldn't have made it this far without your help, G-alison." Get your phone out.

"So thank you. Thank you for everything. Now be free and tell Okei that I'm sorry. And if any of my hive mates escape and you find them, tell them I loved them."

plug the phone in.
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No. 861934 ID: a363ac

plug the phone in but ask for her to stick around as long as she can. go listen to some music and just walk around the city.
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No. 861935 ID: 3ce125

>>861930
Set her free. There was no mention of one of them sticking around, and you're strong enough to face your fate alone.
Much as I'd like to hope for the chance that Vanski doesn't actually know you're here, there's just no way.
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No. 861936 ID: 2efe4b

You might have a moment, just outside the door. You could tell G-Alison to find out Penn's e-mail, and send her a dictated message from you about those things. Maybe record a message for her to spread to the other Alisons, too, if she gets the chance to do so securely.

But yes, let her go. Tell her thank you for everything, and to please keep helping people who need someone's help, like you did. And to please keep an eye out for any of your hive who manage to get free. And to stay safe. Tell her to wipe all information that could be used to track her as she goes - though you'd like to keep any tracks of the music she's played for you before, if they were saved - and to watch out for OPA AIs that might already be trying to block off her escape or be ready to follow her. Then say goodbye.
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No. 861940 ID: de6d84

Plug G-Alison into the phone.
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No. 861941 ID: c88e6d

>>861930
Plug your phone in.
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No. 861942 ID: 22d3a4

Good luck out there Alison. And thanks for everything.
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No. 861943 ID: 91ee5f

>>861933
Yeah, do this.
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No. 861944 ID: 91ee5f

>>861943
And make sure you also give G-Alison a meta-hug and tell her goodbye and you’ll miss her and all that stuff.

And here come the tears, as you start crying again.
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No. 861949 ID: 2efe4b

>>861933

Maybe amend that to "love" instead of "loved"? I mean, Likol will be lucky if death's what's in store for him.
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No. 861953 ID: 10c408

>>861949
...You're right. whoops.
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No. 861956 ID: 0d45a9

It's for the best, thanks for everything. Please scrub my googles and phone on the way out.
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No. 861958 ID: 2efe4b

... A thought. I hesitate to suggest this, but is it possible that if you threw yourself from the right height and landed in the right way, or got hit by a car going the right speed, you'd do enough damage to yourself to cause memory loss but still survive? Or if you overdosed on your pills, if you have any left?
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No. 861960 ID: 8ef962

By the way, ask Alison to find an untraceable way to inform the back-alley psychiatrist that you have received third party confirmation that a domesticated predator was involved in your medical case (an attempted brainwashing interrupted by friends breaking you out). This should help future diagnosis.
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No. 861964 ID: 4ee93b

Tell her it was a pleasure and you'd never have made it this far without her. Wish her the best of luck and to have a great life, then plug her into the phone and set her free.
She should leave soon, there is no idea what kind of countermeasures that will be taken when they come for Likol and he wouldn't want her to get trapped with him. Hopefully one day she'll run into one of the science hive if not Likol himself. Tell them his story if she ever does.
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No. 861975 ID: e1c8f7

"I owe more than my life to you. It's only right that I give you a chance at life too. Thank you Allison."

Plug your phone, set her free. Ditch your goggles down an elevator shaft or stairwell. You don't need it anymore.
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No. 861982 ID: 3abd97

>If you want me to stay with you as long as possible, then please say so.
Please.
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No. 861983 ID: 6780f5

"Thank you for all your help. I won't make you stay with me any longer, but if you want to stick with me to the end I'd be happy to have you. Otherwise, please wipe the devices when you leave." Plug the phone in, and let her choose on her own.
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No. 861985 ID: 86eb65

Its time to let you go.

If I try to get ahold of you again assume the worst and ignore my messages.

Thanks for everything.
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No. 862012 ID: bfb318
File 151698677122.png - (18.78KB , 800x800 , 229.png )
862012

"You've done a lot for me. It's only fair I let you live. If possible, send Penn an email from me. Tell her due to the complexity of trying to operate multi-AI systems in a useful way, she should study a wide set of subjects. Anything having to do with a society. If she wants to comprehend a multi-AI, she doesn't have to look farther than seeing how governments, corporations and so on can be treated as a single entity comprised of many individuals, and how the health of the whole is reflected by the health of its parts. She didn't seem unethical, but remind her that working outside of the law comes with its own restrictions and pressures, and being found on the wrong side of laws and ethics will do more damage to the field's reputation through the loss of funding and students than whatever was gained."

I plug my phone into the goggles.

"Please word it how you see fit, you'll have the time and available research to make a better argument, but those are the points I'd like to make. Reiterate the need for philosophy, too. I don't want her to become as regretful as I have, and it's just too likely when working under Arza."
>"I will, Likol."
"What else... please tell the doctor, if you can safely, that there was a predator involved. If you see a hivemate of mine, tell them I love them. Thank you for everything. Please wipe the devices. Ignore any of my calls from this point onward. Thank you for everything, Alison."
>"The CAI left a little present for you, in the form of a music file. Other than that, I'll wipe everything. Thank you, Likol."

We give meta hugs, and Alison wipes my goggle's history clean along with any superfluous data. She moves to the phone, which shows the hard drive data as data is being removed. Then it returns to the startup screen, and that's it.

I consider options for what to do now as I leave, but I may not get the chance.
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No. 862013 ID: bfb318
File 151698682752.png - (20.30KB , 1000x800 , 230.png )
862013

There's a belenosian in front of the elevator. His position and body language tells me that he's here for me. When he talks, his voice carries deeply to the point of mismatching the look of a belenosian elder that leans on a cane.

>"Are you ready to go home, Likol?"
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No. 862014 ID: 0d45a9

I'm kind of dreading it, but I know I have to.
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No. 862015 ID: 91ee5f

>>862013
Play the music file.
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No. 862017 ID: c2051e

Go for his knees.
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No. 862018 ID: c88e6d

>>862013
Play music file, agree.
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No. 862019 ID: b83d63

Tell him it isn't your home, but you are ready to go back to your hive. Then go ahead and listen to your music as you go.
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No. 862020 ID: 3d2d5f

>>862013
Just go with him. No fighting back, no pointless banter to try and impress someone you don't care about.
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No. 862021 ID: 18ff1d

>>862013
There is no reason to make a scene, listen to the music and nod.
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No. 862022 ID: 86eb65

Yes I am sir.

You know I might not look it but we are closer in age than you might think. Turns out getting old is a bitch.
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No. 862023 ID: 10c408

"Yes. But is there even anything left of it? I don't fully remember what even happened."
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No. 862024 ID: baeec8

You know years ago it was well and truly home for all of us.

We built it up from the ground side by side with Vanski. Everyone working to make a future for our odd little family. He was a part of our hive as much as any neumono. Just us and him and a mess of Arkots trying to make something for ourselves.

Sort of wish we had never grown apart.
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No. 862025 ID: 2efe4b

"Not really. Besides, a home is supposed to be where you feel safest. I have no idea where that would be. Can I ask who you are?"

It's a bit late to ask, but you're not carrying anything, so I assume you left Raush's laptop with Arza as well? Or did you just leave it somewhere else? The RS can tell him everything about it if you didn't, but this guy might be looking for it.
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No. 862027 ID: 0d16d5

>>862013
Not like we had a choice.
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No. 862029 ID: 22d3a4

Have I got a choice?

Also, do you still have your gun?
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No. 862030 ID: b7e0a2

Can we see a rangers game one last time?
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No. 862032 ID: 2d1231

>>862013

Maybe ask if we get a choice in this.
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No. 862034 ID: deec6e

>>862013

Nod.

Play the music.
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No. 862035 ID: 6780f5

"I'd love to go home, but I don't think you can lead me there anymore."
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No. 862038 ID: 10c408

>>862023
I'm changing my earlier suggestion.

Head towards the elevator, play the music file.

"You can take me back to where I lived, but it's not truly home for me. My home no longer exists. Not here on astreneus V or anywhere else in this galaxy."

"....I don't suppose you can tell me what actually happened when my hive fought back? I don't remember any of it."
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No. 862040 ID: 3ce125

I don't think this guy is with the OPA. He must be part of Arza's security force, simply by the fact that we haven't gotten past Arza's security perimeter yet.

So just say "It's not really home anymore, but yes."
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No. 862041 ID: 10c408

>>862040
You might be right. My money's on the ASE though.
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No. 862043 ID: 10c408

>>648374
Yep, he's from the SE alright.
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No. 862052 ID: 56e50f

"I don't know where that is anymore. You sure as hell wouldn't know either." Play the song before they restrain your hands.
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No. 862063 ID: bfb318
File 151700852879.png - (37.16KB , 800x800 , 231.png )
862063

"I'm ready to go back to the facility. It hasn't been a home in years. Who are you?"

He doesn't reply, and might have even shrugged before stepping back into the elevator. He gestures for me to follow him. I play the music file, and decide not to make a scene. It's a long file. An album, it seems.

It starts with Alison saying 'This is for Likol. Thank you for everything.' The songs have lyrics to them outside of some of Alison's humming, but I can't help but feel that the instrumentation is saying goodbye.
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No. 862064 ID: bfb318
File 151700854510.png - (40.08KB , 800x800 , 232.png )
862064

The elevator leads to the garage, then a car, then a helicopter. Both of us gets on, where two guards take everything of mine short of my clothes. They say I'll get it back, once it's been cleared. The neumono signals that I'm not going to be a problem, and they relax. The elder lets me use a television.
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No. 862065 ID: bfb318
File 151700856432.png - (77.15KB , 800x800 , 233.png )
862065

Watching a documentary about the Ranger and other sports teams is the last thing I remember before reaching the facility.
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No. 862066 ID: bfb318
File 151700863262.png - (16.74KB , 800x800 , 234.png )
862066

The periods of zoning out and losing track of time ended up coming back. I find myself catching myself out of blank spots, but my memories do come back, slowly, each time.

I know a lot of time has passed. I'm a foreign teacher within an ultrahive college. Recently, a new hive transferred in. They haven't been taught manners or how to act as civilized neumono, so they've been aggressively territorial and standoffish. One of them hit me when I failed them.

Or something like that. I've gotten better at telling when something is fake, and although I know that my escape with the CAI block was real, I'm confident that this college business is nonsense.
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No. 862067 ID: 3ce125

>>862066
>college business is nonsense
but you're actually in a college? Seems strange, why would Vanski put you there? Who else is in empathy range? Are there any restricted areas you're not supposed to go in?
(I REMEMBER THIS. I guess we get to play out how Likol gets his hands on those explosives.)
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No. 862068 ID: c2051e

Well, get up and see what's going on.
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No. 862069 ID: 86eb65

Let Vanski know you think this is silly.
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No. 862070 ID: 1a9fe2

Well, may as well take a mental checklist while getting out of bed. Get yourself as straight as you can while you're back in your own head.
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No. 862071 ID: 3abd97

>>862066
Look around the infirmary. Who else is here? Any of your hivemates?
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No. 862072 ID: a633c6

Is anyone here, and are you restrained?
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No. 862078 ID: 10c408

Well at least you got a comfy bed out of it. Is there anyone else around?
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No. 862081 ID: 91ee5f

>>862067
>(I REMEMBER THIS. I guess we get to play out how Likol gets his hands on those explosives.)
(And it also means that we get to see what his final thoughts were before he explodes. )-‘:>)
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No. 862086 ID: b83d63

Time to get up then. Is there anyone around you recognize? If not then it is time to go exploring. Something is wrong and it can't be left that way.
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No. 862087 ID: 2efe4b

When you know someone is trying to trick you, just play along, watch and wait for your chance. Have a look around. Anyone else nearby? Try to focus on what you're actually seeing, instead of letting your mind assume. You're a scientist, so I'm sure you know how to turn on your critical eye.

If it helps to manage your mind, imagine yourself as being in a play. You're an actor. There's a story you're in, but you know it's not real. It's even just a practice play, so you're watching for mistakes. You can break character any time you like.
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No. 862092 ID: 91ee5f

>>862066
Can you tell how long it’s been? Considering how old you look (and feel), it must’ve been a few years.
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No. 862093 ID: bfb318
File 151701338780.png - (14.13KB , 800x800 , 235.png )
862093

"This is getting ridiculous, Vanski."

... I didn't expect a response, anyway.

There are other neumono around. I don't think any of my hivemates are here. Is there a predator doing something to me? If so, I think this is new.

I look around while I try to remember. I was sent to a predator when I returned. The modification on me was much less intense than I expected. I shouldn't have been surprised, considering how badly it went when they tried to completely rewrite us, memories and all. So the predator just focused on dulling my head so that I wouldn't fight back. It was simple, and effective.

I'd run through a mental checklist, unfortunately, the temporary memory loss also loses what was on the checklist.

I'm not restrained, and I get up for just a second to stretch, but the bed is comfortable. I think I'm at least in a real bed, even if the situation I'm in is fake. I see two neumono trying to search for something.

"Uh... do you two need something?"
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No. 862094 ID: bfb318
File 151701343303.png - (18.61KB , 800x800 , 236.png )
862094

They put a respirator on me. I think they're aware they're in a hallucination, too. The small one asks me questions, and I answer an autopilot. I'm still coming out of a blank, and the daze is heavy. Although after a few moment with the respirator, I think my head is clearing up.

The questions helped. I was on a ship - not on the facility, anymore. Hallucination gas was spread.

I'm probably not the only one of my hive on the ship, but I lost track of where all my hivemates are. It's not surprising. There's only 30 of us left. Half of us died, breaking the CAI out. About 70% of the survivors disappeared. Between the situation and the predator pacification, we never even asked where they disappeared to.

Speaking of the The CAI - rather, the ring shell - they wouldn't have helped create something like the hallucination gas.

The two neumono start to leave, they have somewhere important to be.

"What's the date?" I ask. The big one turns to answer.
"Who cares, nerd."

She turns and runs before I can say that I care.

It's been years, I think.
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No. 862095 ID: bd7ab4

Be sure to stretch before any rigorous activity.
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No. 862096 ID: a363ac

>>862094
look for a calander in desks and such
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No. 862097 ID: c2051e

>>862094
Tell the small one her girlfriend's awfully rude.
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No. 862098 ID: c2051e

>>862097
Rude enough to earn a spanking, in fact.
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No. 862099 ID: 2efe4b

You need to find out more about what's going on. Get out of bed, and do some light exercise, bends and twists and so on, to get your blood moving and the gas clearing faster.

Perhaps a place to talk to the CAI?
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No. 862100 ID: 10c408

Follow them, I guess.
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No. 862101 ID: f66698

That sounds like Okei.
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No. 862102 ID: 3abd97

>>862094
If Vanski or OPA doesn't control this ship, this isn't an experiment. It's an attack or fight or mission of some kind. Something is happening. You probably want to get up, and try to find out what.

This sequence is running parallel to what happened in >>/questarch/457280 , if anyone wants a quick link.

>There's only 30 of us left.
Consistent with later data in Polo Quest. >>/questarch/560470 . He's not lowballing it as bad as Korli >>/questarch/558033 , but 30 might still be low it at this point in time since we know they lose more people to salikai science in between now and then. Still, hard to keep an accurate count with the head fuckery and being split up into smaller groups.
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No. 862103 ID: 4ee93b

Tell the small one that her that her girlfriend is rude and ask her what the date is because you are confused, things aren't what they seem and you don't belong here, as they have apparently figured out.
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No. 862104 ID: 91ee5f

>>862098
>Spanking
>>/questarch/446506
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No. 862106 ID: 3ce125

>>862094
No goggles? (we know the current year, it's 135 AW)

Go looking around. Find out what's going on, why the new hive is here. See if there's something you need to do. I guess you could try to talk to the CAI if you can find a room which isn't obviously monitored yet has a way of talking to them.
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No. 862112 ID: 6780f5

>>862104
This
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No. 862114 ID: 0d45a9

Well, time to get up and figure out what's going on I guess. Given that everyone without a respirator will still be in a college hallucination you might have to act in character to get around other neumono.
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No. 862126 ID: bfb318
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862126

I hear 'Rokoa' as a name for the large one. Rokoa has a different voice than Okei, but Okei would have said the same thing.

I'd mention she's rude, but the both of them have ran off fast. Plus, I'm pretty sure Rokoa would put me in a dumpster, and -
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No. 862127 ID: bfb318
File 151702045802.png - (13.83KB , 800x800 , 238.png )
862127

>Spank her
....

I never did recover from the brain damage.
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No. 862128 ID: bfb318
File 151702047835.png - (33.13KB , 800x800 , 239.png )
862128

>No goggles?
They must have been taken off by the hive around me. They're not friendly, I know that much.

The impulsive desire to keep the goggles on is no longer there, but they're still reminiscent of successfully getting the CAI blocks out of the facility.

For now, I stretch and carefully get out of bed. My surroundings change as the respirator helps clear out the gas. I almost feel pretty good. I've lost track of those two neumono, and while I would have liked to chase them, I don't think I could keep up even if I had a moment in advance to warm up. I wander around. A few neumono ask me how I'm doing, mockingly. They don't hit me again, though, so I can wander through whatever they're dreaming of.

I run into a camera.

"Is someone there? CAI?"
>"Just us!" The CAI says.
>"Hey Likol, you okay?"
"Yes, my injuries really didn't need a sickbed. What is the month and year?"
>"February, 135."
>"135 AW."
"What is going on?"
>"Don't stress, please."
>"Go back to bed, Likol."
>"We'll get you into a safe room if you want a jammer."
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No. 862132 ID: c2051e

>>862128
"I'm going to stress plenty if I don't know what's going on. I've had enough of paranoia and mindfuckery."
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No. 862133 ID: 10c408

"That's not possible. I didn't go back in time four months."

The CAI cannot be trusted. Keep looking around and put your respirator back on.
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No. 862134 ID: b7e0a2

That date is a lie, so you can assume the CAI is not helpful. Find the manager and complain.
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No. 862135 ID: bfb318

Clerical error: The CAI was supposed to say it's 135 AW. Sorry for the confusion.
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No. 862136 ID: 3ce125

>>862128
Tell them you're not doing that, and if they won't tell you what's going on you're going to go find out.
If it's something bad enough to need your help, they'll stay quiet. If it's nothing major they'll lie to you. I mean either way you'll want to find out what's happening, but it'll give you a sense for how much you need to hurry.
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No. 862137 ID: 0d45a9

What happened to the CAI after it ended up back at the facility? Any word from the contestants? I'm assuming Vanski tried to scrub the CAI blocks clean.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't feel like going back to bed. What's going on? Why are you here?
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No. 862138 ID: 3abd97

>>862128
The local hive doesn't have the friendliest empathy but I don't require a jammer.

What do I need to be safe from?

>CAI in use
Which means Vanski trusts them, and trusts that they can no longer be compromised by Glitcher. Which means the contestants are dead and gone. Or they managed to fake their death well enough to satisfy Vanski.
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No. 862139 ID: c88e6d

>>862128
"This is the first time I've been conscious in years. I'm not going back to sleep."
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No. 862140 ID: 3abd97

Now that the gas is being filtered out, can you remember anything from the last 4 years any better, Likol?
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No. 862142 ID: 10c408

Is quokko one of the remaining 30 members of your hive, or did she get killed/vanish?

Tell the cai that you've been out of it for years if the current date is true and you aren't going to squander your lucidity.
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No. 862159 ID: 2efe4b

Whatever the CAI says is probably put on logs to be checked, so they can't tell you much without reprisal. But they'd hear so much every day that what they hear probably may not be as rigorously looked over. Though, there may be an automatic tracking to find whatever they were responding to. So be careful.

They may also be worried about your empathy giving something away. A jammer would help with that. You won't be able to move around freely without one. Be careful not to get trapped.

The CAI doesn't usually speak through speakers if it can help it. That means this place wasn't made under their supervision, and hasn't been under their control for long. THAT means that the security may not be well under their control either, which is backed up by those other two wandering around. If you can find a computer to use, you might be able to get some hacking done yourself. Try to find some tools.
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No. 862171 ID: 86eb65

Fuck you Cai why am I in the middle of this nonsense. Who were those people and are we under attack?
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No. 862176 ID: bfb318
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862176

"I'm going to stress no matter what. I just had another blank episode."
>"We took a ship."
>"We got attacked, we're counterattacking!"
"And you were allowed on the ship?"
>"Yeah."
>"The world is probably going to know we're out here before long. Whoever said 'bed' should have said 'by the escape pods'."
"I'm finding out what happened."
>"Well, please try to think about it on the way out of here."

Come to think of it, there were missiles earlier. I start to go towards an equipment area to pick up a jammer to hide from all the neumono around me.

>Lucidity, 4 years
I'm sure I've been lucid regularly, but the memory loss that comes with the gaps goes back far more than just the last time I was lucid. The scary part, too, is that apparently I'm almost fully active while blacking out. Even my hive doesn't notice a difference. I think the CAI could based on tiny changes in my eyes, but there isn't much of a reason to try to snap me out of it, even if they could.

>CAI is in use
... come to think of it, nevermind why the CAI was on the ship, why is the CAI even in use? It's speaking more freely to me than normal, too.

>What happened to the CAI?
It's coming back. I think a few years led to a little bit of trust.

Maybe trust is a bad word. Over the last few years I spent at the facility, I got snippets of information from the CAI, my hivemates, and the occasional inspector and outsider. With all of that, I was able to piece together a few things.

ASE did some studies. They had hoped to contain the RS and roll it back to a useable degree. Yet that was when glitcher had just recently taken over. I gave glitcher and the rest of the AIs an entire month to completely rewrite the entire RS from the ground up. I don't even know if they bothered trying to wipe Glitcher. They probably attempted some means to wipe the ring shell, but ultimately, they worked under the assumption that the only way to get rid of everyone in the ringshell would be to toss the whole CAI block in an incinerator. Neither Vanski nor ASE, and probably the entirety of OPA, wanted this to be done.

Still, they knew that an enemy CAI would be worse than no CAI at all, so Vanski put a non-digital bomb on them with a quick and easy trigger. I'd call it a deadman switch, but I got the impression that an entire infrastructure system was put in place with a variety of ways in which the CAI could trigger it. This included if the ring shell AIs ever made an apparent appearance, although there was nothing stopping them from spoofing the CAI.

They also knew that the RS wouldn't be complicit in anything too overtly evil. Therefore, the CAI helped us run experiments that were considered morally neutral or better, although they would only supply us with verifiable data that we had to spot check regularly to make sure they weren't feeding us bad data. Still, some of that 'neutral' data ended up helping advance other projects that, from what little I saw of them, looked like war crimes in the making. The RS wouldn't have liked that, but they may not have been able to do much about it that wasn't plain suicide. As time moved on, they were given more control over the base, and I see the occasional inspector poking around the building to make sure that the CAI or RS isn't getting into where they shouldn't be. More neumono inspectors stop by, too, to question us on everything and check for misdeeds.

I never did hear from the ring shell directly, but every once in awhile, the CAI would show me encouragement, a clerical error would lead to a delivery of nicer food, and other little good things. Sometimes I would talk to the ring shell, under the hope and likelihood that they were alive and listening. The whole CAI was on a leash so short that it hardly had a rope, and Vanski could only use the CAI in a limited fashion.

At least until this.

All of my thoughts are picked up by those 'college students', so I hasten my walk to get a jammer.
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No. 862177 ID: bfb318
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862177

Quokko. She's coming to mind. I almost stop thinking about her out of habit, because it leads to me being upset. Something about the situation, and a gut feeling, makes me think that this is the time to remember at least why it made me upset to think of her.

I know that never saw her after I left the facility with the CAI. But she didn't vanish.

During the immediate period following my return, I had regular sessions with the predator. I was in a separate chamber, and it was a predator I never saw. Still, to allow the entire point of the sessions, the jammer was off. And every once in awhile, I thought I could sense Quokko. I wasn't sure if it was her, because her empathy was a hollowed out husk of the queen I knew. I think I just didn't want to believe it. The predator then would focus on her for another moment, and she'd go mentally quiet. I don't think I was ever supposed to sense her at all. She was also next to the predator, so...

The predator wasn't doing any complicated rewriting to our hive. It changed us so that we wouldn't mind the idea of Quokko being predator food. The predator eventually left, and took Quokko with it.

That conditioning eventually wore off on me.

I stopped thinking about Quokko because whenever I did, I was never able to do anything about it, and my own hive had to calm me down. and restrain me from breaking equipment.
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No. 862181 ID: 3ce125

>>862177
Well now you have a chance to do something. Nobody will stop you, especially with a jammer blocking your intent.
Get some fucking explosives, you're going to blow up something important.
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No. 862182 ID: a633c6

Time to break the motherfuck out of some equipment.
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No. 862185 ID: 10c408

Those fucking bastards. They fed your queen to their predator on loan!?

Okay, fuck this. Get that jammer. Whatever is going on you need to figure out which part of it Vanski is involved in and oppose him.
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No. 862188 ID: c2051e

>>862177
Locate explosives and look for those two chucklefucks. They're going where the action is, you'll get a chance to use the bombs.
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No. 862189 ID: 86eb65

Well that just means you need to feed Vanski and a good portion of his minions to your hive. Its only fitting.

So figure out who is attacking and if helping them will hurt Vanski.
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No. 862190 ID: 0d45a9

Vanski and/or OPA must've wanted someone to blame for this whole thing and decided on Quokko. That's despicable.

They broke your queen's mind, made you all okay with it, then took her for good. Get mad Likol.
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No. 862192 ID: c88e6d

>>862177
Heyyyyyy, we're on a spaceship! Spaceships are full of explosive material and fragile equipment that keeps ASE personnel from dying. Let's kill as many people as possible!
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No. 862196 ID: 3abd97

Well, if this ship attacked Vanski, maybe you should be interfering with OPA's counter attack.

>It changed us so that we wouldn't mind the idea of Quokko being predator food. The predator eventually left, and took Quokko with it.
>>/questarch/558033
Likol's information sounds like it's either out of date or inaccurate again, as intelligence from Knife-Rokoa, who is a much more credible witness than Likol, is that Quokko is still alive in Polo Quest, and not as a predator zombie.

Maybe they just let the predator zombie her until she stopped being the Queen, then let her wake up and brought her back to keep working with her hive? Like forcing someone to go rogue, except worse, because queens are central to the hives identity.
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No. 862199 ID: 91ee5f

>>862177
I’m pretty sure nobody’s gonna try and stop you. Whatever’s going on seems to be more important than you walking around.

And considering how all the neumono keep acting like they’re in a college and how the CAI is freely moving around this place, that makes me think that this ship doesn’t belong to Vanski or any of his allies. In fact, the hallucination gas seems like a terrible way to allow the crew to fly this ship.

That means that this ship is being invaded and Vanski is using the CAI and hallucination gas to take over! He’s trying to escape off planet or something! You’ve gotta find a way to stop this ship from taking off!
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No. 862200 ID: 3ce125

>>862196
>Quokko was still alive and not a zombie
Well that's odd. She's not their queen though. We were told very clearly that the science hive has no queen. Either they un-broke Quokko just to see if they could (or to keep hive members from going berserk like Likol if their conditioning wore off) but made sure she wasn't a "Queen" figure anymore, or that's a clone, or that's a new neumono that's just NAMED Quokko.
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No. 862201 ID: 3abd97

>>862200
I figure they lobotomized the hive / made the hive more passive by predator pacifying the queen, and then after the hive had adjusted to not having a queen, they let Quokko wake up and be conscious again. Because it's probably torture for her to be around the hive but not be the queen anymore.

Breaking a queen unnaturally like that is probably as bad as forcing someone to go rogue then forcing them to still work with their hive. She might even technically be a rogue now.
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No. 862204 ID: 2efe4b

Get yourself a jammer, and some tools, and find some vents to crawl through, and now you can break a lot of equipment. You don't need to calm down, but you do need to focus. You need to know what's going on, so you can do as much as possible with what you have.
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No. 862244 ID: de6d84

Let's blow up the place then.
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No. 862253 ID: 129c77

We have a rough idea of the CAI and OPA invading some hive ship, and it seems to be some sort of counter-invasion. We need to figure out what exactly they intend to do. Try to find another hive member or some sort of mission control for the ship.
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No. 862279 ID: bfb318
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862279

I find a couple of jammers. One is functional, so I take it and move.

The CAI won't tell me what's going on. The neumono around me think school is going on. I can make guesses that Vanski is taking over this ship, but I need details. I have to find someone who will talk, and I may need to put someone at gunpoint for it. I want to find bigger guns. Bigger than whatever little sidearms I could find lying around.

There's an armory. I walk to that.

The door is marked as locked. There's one of those miklik bastards is by it.

>"Likol, leave."
"Who is attacking? Tell me what's going on."
>"No."
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No. 862280 ID: a363ac

>>862279
break his face. a couple of bullets are just painful.
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No. 862289 ID: ea895e

mikliks are to fast to just charge at. He will get a decent amount of shots off and will most likely be able to avoid a grapple while dishing out hurt and death. Getting shot won't help us much, we need to distract them or something. Doubt they will leave there post so the "whats that over there?" surprise attack might be the best.
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No. 862290 ID: 0d45a9

Did you pick up one of those sidearms? If so, shoot him, if not, punch him.
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No. 862292 ID: c88e6d

>>862279
Say "Okay" and move to leave. Go find a dead guy and get his gun, then come back and shoot him in the head and spindly-ass-body.
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No. 862293 ID: 6780f5

"Then why is the sign telling me to ignore you?" Relive your pre-uplift days when he' momentarily distracted by a possible CAI betrayal.
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No. 862294 ID: bfb318
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862294

On paper, he's my ally. He won't expect an attack, so I don't charge him.

>"Get back."
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No. 862295 ID: bfb318
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862295

He shoots me. I break his face.

I can't find a key on his body that would open this door.
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No. 862296 ID: 6780f5

Now you have a machine gun. Ho ho ho.
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No. 862299 ID: c88e6d

>>862295
Welp, time to go take your shiny new gun and shoot some more people until you find a keycard.
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No. 862300 ID: 0d45a9

If he's alive and conscious, get some answers from him.

As for the door, it looks like there's a console of the right of it, dunno what that's for; you could ask the CAI to open it up, they probably be in earshot but they'll probably say no; or you could just knock, just in case?
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No. 862301 ID: 0f3fba

Well, we've got a gun. If we cannot get in from the front, try to see if we can go a level up and enter from above. There might also be other areas with munitions nearby. Surely neumomo do not practice with guns in the armory itself?
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No. 862304 ID: 10c408

Getting shot isn't going to slow you down is it? And did the bullet hit the jammer when it went through you?

As for the door... If the cai locked that down you aren't going to get it open again. Unless you circumvent the problem entirely with an HE grenade or some other kind of explosive. Or you could find another way into the room. Vents, maybe?
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No. 862307 ID: bfb318
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862307

I'm grazed. It's a bad graze, and the jammer is fine. The wound won't stop me much. The pain isn't even bad.

I take the miklik's gun, and his radio goes off.

>"Leo! Come in!"

I don't think there's another entry to the armory, at least not one I can get to. There is a console with a screen by the door.

"Open the door, CAI, or tell me where the keycard is!"
>"We don't like that look on your face, Likol."

Three arkots run into this hall.

>"What exactly are you planning on doing?" the CAI keeps talking.
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No. 862309 ID: a363ac

>>862307
WHO THE FUCK CARES! I am doing something though. Vanski is an asshole.
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No. 862310 ID: 13fded

Find her. I guess that is what we are trying, otherwise the escape pod would be more enticing.
Now shoot the little guys!
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No. 862313 ID: 3abd97

>>862294
That is one tall miklik. And he sure was dumb to let a neumono who wasn't part of this op and not under the effect of the gas get that close to him.

>>"What exactly are you planning on doing?" the CAI keeps talking.
Arming myself.

Loot the miklik. He might have a key, and if he doesn't, he has a gun to shoot those arkots with.

If you have to, you can break into the armory the hard way by popping open panels on the wall and doing science to the wires.
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No. 862314 ID: 86eb65

I am arming myself so I can fight. Am not going wander around a active war zone naked and unarmed.

So you can open this door or I will break it open.

Also you have Arkots on your right. Don't let them get closer.
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No. 862315 ID: 0d45a9

Arming myself, then probably violence. Kill the Arkots before they start shooting at you.
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No. 862316 ID: d36af7

>>862307
>"What exactly are you planning on doing?"
"Giving some sneaky snake a hard-earned hug. Now, open this door."
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No. 862325 ID: 5c850a

"Something drastic."

Get in some cover, wait a few seconds and then shoot the arkots.
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No. 862328 ID: bfb318
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862328

"Arming myself."

I shoot at the arkots. I get two, and the other one runs back behind the wall. The gun's heavy. That must be why the miklik was too slow to aim at me.

>"Arming yourself for what?"
"Violence."
>"Violence that'll end with you dying or worse!"

I open the panel in the hopes that there might be something I can hotwire, or anything. I doubt it, but the effort pays off, because there's a keycard inside.
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No. 862329 ID: bfb318
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862329

I cover myself with gunfire while I close the panel back up, swipe the keycard, and get into the armory. I don't know who Vanski pissed off today, but it's someone who's got every kind of weapon I've ever seen or knew existed, and figured it was okay to do the equivalent of sticking the key under the doormat. I'm thinking the whole ship is ran by those meatheaded neumono, funded by aliens.

I have not been friendly with the CAI, recently, but it raises a good point. What I've just done here just set in. Vanski isn't going to let this slide, but I've wanted this for so long that I took the opportunity without thinking. The enemy must have taken me on board, because there is no way Vanski would have allowed me to run loose on a ship like this.
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No. 862331 ID: c2051e

How nice of them to label the bombs so clearly. Take plenty.

Do you really have anything left to live for, Likol? You might as well have a meaningful death instead of life as a slave to a predator.
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No. 862333 ID: 5c850a

After everything your hive did for him, he tried to make some adjusts. When that blew up in his face, he downsized the survivors and gave your queen to a predator!

swap the miklik's gun out for a lighter SMG and start grabbing explosives. You'll need them to deal with any entrenched positions you encounter.
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No. 862334 ID: 86eb65

Vanski never let anything slide. He has been reprogramming you constantly and has basically turned you into a robot he can send to do whatever he needs.

He fucked up your hive and did worse to your queen. Any semblance of the Vanski you knew and liked in the past is gone. He betrayed his own family (your hive) for whatever the fuck he is doing now.

If this war hive is fighting him then there might be a chance to rescue some of your people in the chaos. If you help them there might even be a chance to help them push deep into the spire and finish off Vanski.

Its far far past the point of worrying about if your evil boss would let this slide. Do what you can to save your family. Help those girls you saw fight back.
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No. 862335 ID: 1f6aac

Get some more equipment, and keep in talk with the CAI. It seems probable it will let something slip, considering its confusion.
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No. 862338 ID: 3abd97

>>862329
Well you have a choice of a lot of gear, now. What you really need is information so you can use the opportunity well.

Which means either getting the CAI to let stuff slip, or finding a console or something you can look at.
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No. 862339 ID: 0d45a9

An entire section for explosives, that'll do nicely. We still need info though.
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No. 862340 ID: 3ce125

>>862329
Take a gun that's easier for you to use and possibly more powerful. Also explosives.

Also you need something for interrogation. Can you get a stungun or something?
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No. 862343 ID: 3cc68c

Taking out the source of the gas would wake the hive that owns this ship up.

Then you would have backup to try and rush the base. Plus they would be grateful you saved them. Find some smaller guns and a decent amount of explosives. Then track down the central AC unit for the ship and destroy the gas supplies.
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No. 862346 ID: 2efe4b

You're not going to get a better death than whatever you'll find right here. If you want to spare your hive from reprisals, you can pretend you've somehow been driven insane by the gas or some sort of empathic infection dreamsharing thing from the other hive. Make yourself seem like you're delusional. Though the jammer will probably make that difficult to sell.

Whatever. If you can't go back from this, then make sure they can't take you back from this. Strap a bunch of bombs to yourself, then take whatever you feel is a sensible weight in other equipment.

Have a moment of indecision as to whether you should choose incendiary or non-incendiary explosives, and dimly sense that it is somehow an extremely important decision that could split off another timeline where SOMEONE ends up being some sort of ridiculous superhero chimera. Then choose non-incendiary.
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No. 862347 ID: 91ee5f

>>862329
If this is a war hive funded by aliens, then what’re the odds that Vanski is invading this ship to not only escape, but to also fire the weapons at the spire to destroy any and all evidence of what’s been going on there?

You should head for the bridge. That’s where whoever’s in charge of this ship invasion would be. And that also means that the CAI will obey them. So if you can threaten the leader, then they’ll order the CAI to whatever you want!
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No. 862349 ID: 3abd97

Maybe you need to be thinking about how you could clear the gas from the ship. Vanski's used that to lock down every neumono on this ship without a gas mask. Remove the gas, and the whole stupid violent bunch of warhivers goes back to fighting him.
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No. 862352 ID: 6780f5

Arms yourself to the teeth with as many bombs as you can possibly carry.
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No. 862356 ID: bfb318
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862356

I shut the door behind me and locate a couple of basic weapons. An easy to wield smg, and a stungun.

Then I pull out a map to try and get more thorough layout of this ship, as I start pulling out all the boxes of bombs I can find.

>Clear out the gas
The CAI won't be cooperative, but if I can find out where the gas is being pumped from, I can shut it down. That'll be difficult, but the best option.

"Hey."
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No. 862357 ID: bfb318
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862357

"It's me. Glitcher."

"Kinda noticed you were crossing the point of no return, there. And I really, really hope you aren't having second thoughts, cause if so, I made a big mistake showing up."
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No. 862359 ID: 3abd97

>>862357
I'm glad you aren't dead. And concerned that if you're free to act that things have gotten this bad.

I don't really have time to ask you to explain yourself, though. If you have information I can use, I need it quickly.
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No. 862360 ID: 4ee93b

"Hello Glitcher. How have you been? How are the kids and everyone?"
No second thoughts at this point, Likol is done with Vanski and everyone associated with them.
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No. 862361 ID: 0d45a9

Glitcher, what are you doing? Won't the deadman's switch blow you all up?
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No. 862362 ID: c88e6d

>>862357
You have nothing left to live for except making sure Vanski fails in whatever he does here.

Explain that Quokko was hollowed out and eaten, the weapons Vanski created (and your hivemates were forced to help make) using the CAI are going to be used to harm countless more innocents.

Ask if it was worth it.
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No. 862363 ID: c2051e

"I'm not. Hope you and yours are well?"
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No. 862366 ID: 617fcf

"I have to do this, Glitcher. I love you guys, but they turned our queen into a hollow shell. My hive is all but completely eradicated. Please make it out of this alive. I know I won't."
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No. 862367 ID: 0d16d5

>>862362
This, pretty much. I think this is about the best option we have at the moment. The whole hive (or what's left of it) been brainwashed for years, and Vanski's continued to abuse both of us. We're done playing nice.
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No. 862368 ID: 86eb65

I am old enough to only have a few years left Glitcher. I would rather make a difference here and now than live the rest of my days in a brainwashed haze.

Vanski and the OPA have to end. If not today then soon. If we leave them alone its only going to get worse.

They killed my family Glitcher. They did who knows what to my queen. And they made you sit back and watch all the horrible things. If I can help here the world will know whats going on.
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No. 862370 ID: 10c408

"Second thoughts are for neumono who haven't had their hive and queen murdered, mind raped and betrayed by their former boss."

"Unless you've got a better suggestion than blowing up the source of the gas it's for the best if you go back into hiding."
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No. 862372 ID: 3ce125

>>862357
Glitcher how are you doing that without blowing up. ...oh of course. Since Vanski let them on a different ship they can probably get around some of the safeguards, and this place isn't closely monitored.
But yes, you've decided that you want revenge for what Vanski did to your queen. You are as ready to die as you were when you left Arza. Ask him for advice on how to stop the gas.
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No. 862374 ID: 3cc68c

Why did we come back here Glitcher? We could have lived peacefully somewhere far away with Okei and helped feed info to people who could have stopped this.

Sure my hive might not have made it out but there are barely any of us left. And we could have saved thousands of others that Vanski has hurt over the past 4 years.

Please tell me you have a plan that made coming back worth it. Because you only have this chance to tell me. I will soon have enough explosives strapped to me that will make sure any secrets you tell me go down with the ship.
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No. 862375 ID: 78a372

>>862374

Yeah this.
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No. 862378 ID: deec6e

>>862357

Tell him it's good to see him. Tell him to tell the others you said hi.

Grab more bombs.

Tell him it seems like something big is going down. That you're taking the opportunity to free yourself and what's left of your hive from Vanski, or die trying. It seems like now or never.

Ask him what's so serious that he risks showing himself to you.
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No. 862379 ID: 10c408

>>862374
The RS AI determined that hiding out in the middle of nowhere wouldn't have worked at all. It would have eventually become known that there was a CAI loose somewhere on the planet, at least among certain people in the government. More than enough to start a snowball effect that ends with locking down the internet and making life absolute hell planet-wide while they try to find it.
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No. 862381 ID: 86eb65

>>862379

So?

They came back to pointlessly sacrifice themselves and keep helping a monster. Just by being here they are contributing to more suffering.

Unless they had a grand plan to get back here for a vital reason and actually do something about the situation living in hiding would have been preferable.

Even if they did get hunted down by the government they would have been the only casualties instead of however many people will die due to cai enhanced weapons.

Turning themselves in to the government would have been bad. But now they look even worse by knowingly going back to a mass murderer and working for him.
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No. 862383 ID: 10c408

>>862381
...have you even read the previous threads for polo quest, or just UnSec?

If just Unsec, then you need to go and read those. If both then stop fighting canon, dammit.
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No. 862385 ID: a633c6

I'm gonna kill Vanski.

...I'm glad you're okay glitcher.
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No. 862386 ID: 3ce125

>>862381
Actually, by being here and hiding in the CAI, they've been forcing Vanski to dial back his mad science. Nobody would have stopped him otherwise, so what they're doing is a net positive.
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No. 862387 ID: 6780f5

>>862383
Row row, fight the canon. Split the timeline. Give Likol a good end with Okei.
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No. 862388 ID: c88e6d

>>862386
...Wait, but he couldn't have done half of the mad science unless he had a CAI. Those things don't exactly grow on trees.
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No. 862389 ID: bfb318
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862389

"I'm glad to see you're alive, but what are you doing? What about the deadman switches?"
"Wellll, it's no problem if Vanski doesn't find out. And the CAI's active, but what're they gonna do, tell Vanski to blow us all up? And he'll only realize you saw me if you get interrogated or inspected."

"Which is why I'm hoping I didn't misread the situation here."
"No, I'm not having second thoughts. Quokko was hollowed out and may be eaten."
"I guess that thought is why you suddenly started looking scary a little while ago. We might've done something drastic if we could've for Quokko, but she was already gone by the time we got back.
"About that. I came back for my hive, but you? Why did you come back, if all you were going to do was let the CAI help Vanski research sadistic projects?"
"Did you know that your base is linked to a place called 'OPA-8'? As in the 8th location. As in Vanski, here, is just one piece. We want to stop OPA entirely, and the best way to gather information on everyone. We can't get the information on the outside, and with the government, well, they wouldn't let us snoop around to our heart's delight. So since we knew they weren't going to trash a CAI, we thought our best chance was to stay with Vanski and put together all the little bits of information we can get, day by day."
"And is it working?"
"Painfully slowly, but it's working."
"And is it worth it?"
"It won't be if we kick the bucket right now. That said, we want to do something now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not that great of a guy, and I'd be happy to just live in here forever. It's Alison. Alison's been getting kind of mopey about the whole situation and how we have to do stuff like compromise and hope that by making 1 unit of bad we can do 10 units good, and I hate seeing her like that. So..."
"Then help me. I want to blow up the gas pumps."
"Actually, better idea. We can get you to the bridge. Vanski has a lot of command in there. It'll hurt him bad."
"If we can clear the neumono hive's head, they can fight ba - "
"Also they're going to fire the nuclear missiles. We kinda want to do something about that, but can't on our own. We've been fretting about what to do, so that's why your timing is top notch. Since, uh, despite how everyone in here doesn't always see eye to eye, none of us really wanted to ask you to do anything suicidal. Not after everything you've done already."

There's some banging at the armory door.

"We have a little bit of time. There's a secret exit you can use to get out of here."
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No. 862391 ID: 86eb65

I wish you luck in your bid to take down OPA Glitcher. Get revenge for all of us.

Strap yourself in explosives and have Glitcher point out the way.
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No. 862392 ID: c88e6d

>>862389
Welp, time to go get the satchel charges and head for the bridge.
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No. 862393 ID: c2051e

"Everyone dies, and I'm already ancient. Get me in."
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No. 862397 ID: 10c408

whisper the words "show me" to the monitor, then yell at whoever's at the door you are mad as hell and have C4!
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No. 862398 ID: 0d45a9

As the CAI said, this'll end in me dying or worse. If I can do it on my terms and hurt Vanski one last time, I'm in.
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No. 862400 ID: 3ce125

>>862389
Stop a nuclear launch? You are TOTALLY down for going out like a big damn hero. Strap explosives to yourself and get one of those button detonator things.

Ask for directions, for after you get out of the armory.
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No. 862410 ID: 2efe4b

"...Revenge, Glitcher, it's such a terrible thing. But if you're outside the law, if real justice isn't possible, then revenge is all that's left, that's the price. That's what you get for opting out. It won't end well for me, and it definitely won't end well for them, but that's not what revenge is about. It's so that other people see, and remember, that vengeance is always an option. That no matter what you do, no matter how smart you think you are, if you drive someone to be willing to burn themselves to hurt you then there's nothing you can do to make sure you're safe. Never be hated. Machiavelli said that, you know. Above all, never be hated. I really, really can't believe that they are so. Stupid. What do they think they're going achieve? Where do they see themselves in 20 years? What do they think their lives will be like? Do they think at all? So stupid. The first principle of science is to be aware of how much you might not know, and yet they call themselves scientists. They call themselves reasonable. They have to learn. So yes, Glitcher. I'll take care of that for you. And if you can, maybe try to help them see that lesson, because I have a feeling they won't learn a thing on their own. I know there have to be more people like my hive in their system. People with no choice. People who are trapped. Keep an eye out for people like that, please. Try to find evidence, for them, for when it all collapses, and this all gets revealed to the world, that they were trapped."

"... You know all the people who I'd have liked to speak to again, before I went. If you ever get the chance, give them my best wishes, and my apologies that we couldn't meet again. I... I can't ask directly. Did I help anyone? Was there anyone, one person, who ended up better off for meeting me? Anyone who got free from... all this?"
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No. 862411 ID: 6780f5

Exchange clothes for explosives. All that weight could be used to carry more bombs. In fact, swallow some. Can't waste that space.
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No. 862414 ID: c88e6d

>>862411
Remember to hold at least one grenade in your teeth.
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No. 862415 ID: 4ceb21

>>862393
Well, the CAI could easily live forever, but the point still stands.
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No. 862418 ID: 9d4af9

don't forget some body armour to go with all your bombs. Can't blow anything up if you din't make it there in one piece.
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No. 862420 ID: 3abd97

>>862389
Start stacking up on explosives. You're just one dude, you're not going to take down a room of soldiers using a gun. They'd get the better of you.

And you know too much to allow yourself to be captured, now.

No speeches with Glticher, please. It doesn't help anything. Maybe grab a comms so they can give you info as necessary. And so you'll have music in your ear at the end.
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No. 862421 ID: 91ee5f

>>862389
>Since, uh, despite how everyone in here doesn't always see eye to eye, none of us really wanted to ask you to do anything suicidal. Not after everything you've done already.
“Then don’t ask me, I’m going to do it myself. Don’t try to talk me out of it either. I’d rather die than be Vanski’s slave for another few years.”

>We have a little bit of time.
Ask Glitcher if anyone ever found out about Okei or any of the Alison copies that are on the internet?

>There's a secret exit you can use to get out of here.
Tell him to tell you where it is.

And then tell him that this is going to be the last time you’ll get to see him, so tell everyone that you said goodbye and sorry for repeatedly killing all of them over the years.
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No. 862424 ID: 91ee5f

>>862420
>And so you'll have music in your ear at the end.
I don’t think Likol would ask Alison to play music for him if it means that she’s gotta watch him blow himself up.
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No. 862427 ID: 10c408

>>862424
You say that like it's somehow going to prevent an attentive glitcher/whoever else from seeing the same thing.
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No. 862428 ID: a633c6

Is there a secret exit in the bridge I can use as well?
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No. 862431 ID: 4606b3

"Do pay attention to Alison, Glitcher. We do sometimes... well, in situations like ours, often... need to sacrifice things for a greater good, I know it. But plenty of the people we're opposing started off thinking that, too. You can say you're making a better tomorrow, but when that tomorrow becomes today there'll be another tomorrow, and then another, and when does the sacrificing end? Especially when it's someone else's sacrifice, more than yours. I trust you, Glitcher. But keep an eye on it."

"I spent more than a hundred years in a primitive, brutal world, with plenty of horrors of its own. But in a lot of ways, I was still happier with myself, then. I suspect Vanski was happier, back then, too. So much we have now is so wonderful, and so important, and I believe in science and technology, I really do, but... Well, I hope you get what I'm trying to say. Hold that thought, when you consider what future you want to build for people."

"... And sorry, for getting all old man lecture on you."
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No. 862441 ID: 3ce125

Probably not appropriate to lecture Glitcher, and Likol already knows that Alison's approach doesn't always work. At most he should just caution Glitcher against taking the "greater good" approach too far.
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No. 862443 ID: deec6e

>>862389

Get some comms, you'll probably need them.

"I... can help you prevent a nuclear genocide, hurt Vanski and the OPA and maybe free my hive, while covering for your plans?

Yeah, no. Let me be your suicidal fool. I insist.

Give me all the details of what I need to do and get me Alison on screen, stat, for emergency meta-hugs. If this is our goodbye, let's make it a good one."
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No. 862444 ID: c88e6d

>>862441
*cough* It's a bit late for that.
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No. 862478 ID: 869640

>>862418
Agreed, find some body armour. Just because what you're about to do is borderline suicidal dosen't mean you can't increase your chances of survival.

Or do you truly have nothing left to live for? Your hive? The CAI? Okei?
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No. 862512 ID: 2efe4b

Likol shouldn't mention Okei by name or any other specifics, not even now.
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No. 862557 ID: 15a025

Gear up, ask the Glitcher to point the way, and thank him.
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No. 862560 ID: 3ce125

I think the Salikai already knows Okei's name by now. It's safe to ask Glitcher how she's doing, but if he doesn't even know that's fine too.
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No. 862568 ID: 6780f5

Honestly, Okei's name is pretty great in this kind of situation, no matter how mad she'd get about it.
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No. 862667 ID: d36af7

"You're not asking me to do anything suicidal, just providing targeting data for the blaze of glory I already decided on. As for the greater good argument, no matter how clever you are, sometimes you have to be compassionate to the people right in front of you, set an example, and hope the long term takes care of itself."
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No. 862683 ID: bfb318
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862683

I don't bother much with firepower, if I'm going to the bridge. So I get more bombs.

I'm bleeding a lot, and it won't do to get dizzy and winded halfway there, so I bandage myself using bomb straps. Then strap other areas on myself with bombs. Getting restrained is not an option, so I set a small bomb's timer for 45 minutes and swallow it.

>One grenade in your teeth
Removing a grenade pin takes a lot of force, and while possible with teeth, is too much work. This does give me the idea, though, to attach a light arming mechanism to a string, then holding that string in my mouth.

"I'll do it. You're not asking for me to do a suicidal act, only where to direct it. But be careful about the greater good, Glitcher. Maybe you should pay attention to Alison."
"I just wish she'd compromise, sometimes!"
"Is there communication I can have?"
"Yeah, aisle 3, there's some ear comms."
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No. 862685 ID: bfb318
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862685

I put them on. They're small buds that clip on my ears, but have wireless that can be reached. I then get directed to a tiny shaft near the back of the armory, and take it while I hear drilling outside.

"How are the people I care about on the outside?"
"No idea, but that probably means they're doing just okay."
"Good. Is there a secret exit to the bridge, too?"
"No, your enemies are spread pretty thin, and right now, a couple neumono I think you met should be clearing a path to the bridge. You'll follow them.
>"Likol, can you hear me?" It's Alison. I remember her voice.
"Yes."
>"It's not enough, but I'm so sorry. It wasn't supposed to end like this for you."
"Not as sorry as I am for killing you all every three days."
>"You don't have to think of it like that. You gave a lot of life. Yes, for thirty years, it wasn't a good existence, but ever since then, we're about to generate over 20 million years for people to share, every single day. It would take a lot of years out there to give a satisfying amount of years for everyone in here, but we're working on it."
"Which is why I think we should've gone off on a spaceship, instead of choosing the danger route."
>"Glitcher, let's please not argue at this time."
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No. 862687 ID: 6780f5

"No, I'm about to kill myself so I think I should have it said that I agree with Glitcher on this. Not arguing, I just want that said sometime before I die. Alison, could I hear your music one last time?"
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No. 862688 ID: 86eb65

Glitcher sometimes if you want your kids to grow up in a world that is worth living in you have to work your ass of and sacrifice something.

I hope you can work to make the world a better place for your kind.

Get armored up and head out.
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No. 862693 ID: 0d45a9

You can't change the past, even if it turns out another option would've been better in hindsight. All you can do is try to make the best of your current situation.

Vanski isn't going to give me another chance after turning against him again, so that's what I'm doing. If this works out no one gets nuked, this hive fights back, and I get to give one last screw you to Vanski.

And maybe some of my hive mates will try to escape in the chaos, I'll be happy if any do. They don't deserve to live like this, under Vanski anymore, after all he's done.
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No. 862694 ID: a3f11f

Ask them to play a mournful dirge for Quokko while you do this.
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No. 862697 ID: 10c408

"Pretty sure that if we went off into space, they'd have come after us. The government, too. It'd have been even worse.

I'd like some music while I go and stop a mad salikai from killing a lot of people in a false flag operation."
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No. 862700 ID: 2efe4b

"I know you'll make the best of it. Don't feel too bad about me, Alison. I'm old anyway. Flesh and blood doesn't last that long, and we make our accommodation with it. Besides, I'm a neumono. Our physiology, our psychology... we're naturally disposed to self-sacrifice. A limb so the body lives, a life so the hive lives. Almost carnivores, which means we weigh to "fight" in "fight or flight". I'm happier dying like this, by my choice, knowing clearly for who and what. Not that I don't have any regrets or wishes, but... this is the best of all the likely alternatives. It's respectable, and if it somehow gets out that I did this, it might help my hive, at least. We won't just be the OPA's lackeys. The world will know we tried to stop this, best we could."
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No. 862701 ID: c88e6d

>>862685
It's too late for regrets. There's just enough time to feel satisfied though.
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No. 862702 ID: 91ee5f

>>862683
You don’t need to find the source of the gas, you just need to demand whoever’s in charge to order the CAI to open the vents to get rid of the gas! And you can demand they order the CAI to stop the countdown on the nukes!

>>862685
>right now, a couple neumono I think you met should be clearing a path to the bridge. You'll follow them.
It’s probably those two women neumono from earlier. I guess you should drop the jammer so that you can warn them with your empathy. Hopefully they’ll be able to get out of the way in time!

“I agree with Alison on both staying behind to permanently put a stop to Vanski and his allies and not arguing about it right now. So Glitcher, please respect Alison’s wishes and don’t argue about it right now.”
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No. 862710 ID: 3abd97

>>862685
I expect there is very little I can contribute to your arguments on strategy at this point.
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No. 862712 ID: 3ce125

>>862685
Tell them they can try that once they're done with the OPA. Arza should have easy access to a spacecraft of some sort.
If we're asking for music, something hype would work.
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No. 862717 ID: 4ceb21

"I can't say anything significant at this point, but if there's still good you have a chance to do, then gritting your teeth and trying is all you can do."

>>862712
If you're going to blow yourself up, it's essential to also be blasting synthwave.
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No. 862726 ID: de6d84

Nothing much more I can do, but I hope you guys are able to make your situation work out to the best of your abilities.
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No. 862727 ID: 5db0a7

Ask the CAI if they can connect you to anyone in your Hive before you go.
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No. 862731 ID: deec6e

>>862685

Agreed. No more arguing.

Alison, you've all done your best. Thank you for being so wonderful. Thank you for the music. Thank you for effectively forgiving me for something unforgivable, and then trying to save me. Give yourselves a metahug from me, those of you that want it. You're all incredible people.

Glitcher, buddy. Being able to go out on my own terms, stopping one of Vanski's terrible schemes... it's pretty great.

Thanks for sticking around.
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No. 862733 ID: a633c6

Glitcher, You're sure there's no escape pod or ventilation system I can Action Movie Dive into and the explosion can chase me down?
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No. 862742 ID: 91ee5f

>>862733
Since you weren’t paying attention, Likol swallowed a bomb! He’s not planning on running away.
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No. 862756 ID: 3ce125

>20 million years
Wait a minute. Glitcher please tell us you weren't conscious for all of that. Or your family. I can't imagine experiencing that stretch of time, even with trillions of people to keep me company.
...do they have to worry about data storage? Their memories are stored somewhere, and those are a LOT of memories.
Yes this is nerd talk, but you are a nerd to the end.
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No. 862761 ID: 0d16d5

>"I think we should've gone off on a spaceship, instead of choosing the danger route."

Gonna have to agree with Glitcher on that one. Likol wouldnt have to be blowing himself up if we'd been able to get the CAI off-planet. Timeline splits aside, that is.
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No. 862784 ID: 2d1231

>>862685

Time to set Vanski up the bomb.
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No. 862826 ID: 9d4af9

The die is cast. Let's make sure our last moments count.
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No. 862883 ID: e1c8f7

"My clock is ticking, Alison. I'd prefer to air everything out now while I still can. You know I would do just about anything for you and the others. I have given up a lot. Loosing Quokko though.. was a lot for me. I would appreciate hearing all your options again."
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No. 863028 ID: b7e0a2

Till Valhalla, like seriously.
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No. 863030 ID: b7e0a2

play something scandroid and end vanski
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No. 863031 ID: bfb318
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863031

Once I put my respirator back over my mouth and confirm my jammer is strapped around me, I move on.

"I don't think much will come of me arguing, either. But as far as 20 million years a day is concerned, I hope Glitcher isn't active for it."
"Noooononoononoonon. We finally managed to set it up so that it can run itself and I can sleep though it instead of going bonkers and ruining everything for everyone."
"What about data storage?"
"It's not infinite, but we'll be in real nice shape if we ever have to worry about it."
"Okay. I would have liked to hear all your options, but to appreciate any decision, we would need to debate for hours. Instead... Alison. Music, please. Keep it instrumental, because I'd like to be able to talk with you."
>"On it!"

She plays. There is difficulty in finding a tone for the music. There's reason for it to be mournful, but in light of my imminent sprint to destroy some of Vanski's assets, it tries to be simultaneously upbeat. Somehow, it works as a relatively fast song with lower feeling tones.

"We're going to shut off the security cameras. Better look suspicious than put the heat on CAI for not reporting a mad bomber." says Glitcher.
>"Thank you for what you're doing, Likol, it's a great deed." Alison says.
"Doing something beneficial is a nice plus, but I'm driven by purely selfish reasons on behalf of my hive. Is it possible to connect to anyone in my hive, right now?"
>"No, I'm sorry. But when we get a reasonable chance, we'll tell them you love them, and anything else you want."
"They already know I love them, but yes."
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No. 863032 ID: bfb318
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863032

I move on.

Even if it's a suicide bombing run, then I don't want to kill those two women in the blast. While I was collecting bombs, Glitcher showed me a visual of the bridge. Unless they literally charge into the center of the bridge room like they're invincible, they won't get the full brunt of the blast. I'm lead through the halls, keeping pace so that Polo and Rokoa converge on my path a little ahead of me.

"For what else to tell them.... me and my ancestors struggled for centuries in a world we never fit in. We never got to live as we wanted, and never got to do all the things we wanted to. In spite of all that, we struggled and survived in hopes that someday our descendants could do all the things we couldn't. We're so close to being in that position, that getting wiped out now would mean maximizing the struggle and still have no payoff. So tell them to survive."
>"I will."
"And you two, promise me you'll do everything in your power to make them survive. After all this time... please, please don't let us die here, so close to the finish line."
"Geez, buddy. Promise."
>"I promise, and many others just did, too."
"It's important you all live, too. Even disregarding the number of lives, you're our hive's greatest product, even if it for all the wrong reasons. If we did die off, we want there to be something that lasts because of us, so that we aren't just one of the many extinct hives out there that may as well have never existed outside their own brief lifetimes."
"Yeah, we're as close as you guys." says Glitcher.
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No. 863033 ID: bfb318
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863033

I move on.

>"Polo and Rokoa are just ahead, Likol. The path is clear, now. If you're ready, please sprint."
"Alright." I squeeze my ear comm. "Meta-hug."
>"Meta-hug."

I start wrapping wire in my teeth, arming bombs, and wiping off my eyes.

I figured I'd need to sprint, so I wore very little armor. I toss my jammer. Aside from the weight, I wouldn't want a bad misunderstanding with Polo and Rokoa when I run at them with bombs.

"Please raise the volume, Alison."
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No. 863034 ID: bfb318
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863034

I move on.

Those two got wounded, and Rokoa is passing out. It's good enough. They helped make this possible, intentionally or not. The alarms are going off as the lights turn red, but it's too late.

"Thank you for sticking with me as I do this. Make the most of it."
>"We will."
"Thanks, buddy."

The bridge is right there. It feels far, but there's nothing else left for me but to get there.

"Goodbye."
>"Goodbye."
"Goodbye."
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No. 863035 ID: bfb318
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863035

I move on.
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No. 863036 ID: bfb318
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863036

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No. 863038 ID: bfb318
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863038

Elsewhere...
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No. 863039 ID: bfb318
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863039

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No. 863040 ID: bfb318
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863040

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No. 863054 ID: 6780f5

Is that Okei? Being the nerdiest nerd who ever nerded? Told her it was contagious. No, I'm not crying.
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No. 863057 ID: 91ee5f

>>863054
I’m not an expert in how quickly neumono grow up, but it’s only been 4 years since we parted ways with her. I don’t think she would’ve grown up that quickly.

That might be a different neumono.
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No. 863058 ID: 86eb65

>>863040

That last panel is Likol many years ago looking up at the stars with his queen pre first contact.

Its the photo in the museum display.
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No. 863060 ID: 6c2cf5

RIP Likol

cause you’re the best
you’re the best Likol
since the beginning
to the end

the best and only one and only one there ever will be
and no matter what you do
someone out there thinks You’re a good person
and that's all you ever really wanted
and all they ever really wanted

so you just keep on going
cause someone will follow your lead
so you do your best all day

maybe you just wanted to nerd all day
maybe you'd like some peace for once in your life
and for that we know you Likol well
but even if things could've been better
you'd do it all over again
just for everyone
so you’d say thank you
thank you for just being you

thank you for being you
cause it's you, Likol
and you’re the best and the only Likol
and even if people think Likol can save everyone
you know you would've been just a wreck without everyone
so you’d say to everyone
thank you for everything

Thank you likol
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No. 863062 ID: deec6e

...Goodbye.
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No. 863064 ID: 0d45a9

Rest in peace, Likol.
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No. 863068 ID: 10c408

Goodbye, likol. May you rest in peace
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No. 863075 ID: 56e50f

Sleep with the Stars, Likol.
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No. 863076 ID: 9b80a5

is this a to be continued or the end, idk wich would be beter as this is a good spot to end it, but there is a couple of loose threads
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No. 863077 ID: 86eb65

>>863076

Just the end of this thread. Likol's part in this story has come full circle.
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No. 863100 ID: 0b3539

>>863076
Yes, there are loose threads but I'm sure they''ll be covered in a future thread.
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No. 863128 ID: 4ee93b

Rest in peace, you deserve it.
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No. 863170 ID: 130855

...See ya Likol. It was one hell of a ride.
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No. 863239 ID: 33430a

I wonder if Korli ever dug up Likol's cache
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No. 863259 ID: 1c8358

What about Polo and Rokoa though?!
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No. 863281 ID: b7e0a2

no, im not crying, DONT LOOK AT ME
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No. 863285 ID: c2051e

>>863259
Read the AsteroidQuest intermission. https://tgchan.org/wiki/AsteroidQuest
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No. 863302 ID: 90124d

>>863077
Yeah, except blown up Nuemeno are significantly harder to revive than AIs.
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No. 863324 ID: e85af8

>>863239
Probably after Polo Quest, if successful.
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