>>508227
How were they strange?

Awwwwww...
You're right, let your friends sleep.
Do you think your friends didn't like the strangers because they were strangers or because they were mean?

well if your friends don't like them then you don't like them. simple as that.

Have you seen Silent or her friends at all since then?

Well that does not sound very fun. Make sure not to make the strange neumono angry but be very careful doing anything for them. If they try to force you to do anything pretend to go along with it until you can make sure your tribe is safe.

>a few strange neumono entered this area from somewhere and told Three Stripes he might have to control neumono
What hive were they from? What did they feel like? Were they from Silent's hive? The ultrahive big hive thing Silent's hive is friends with?

...how much time do neumono from Silent's hive or the other hives spend with you, anyways? Does anyone besides Silent come in without jammers?

And there are two reasons someone might want you to control someone. One reason is because there's a neumono doing something dangerous or bad, and they want your help to stop them, so they don't have to stop them with a fight or hurt or something bad.

The other reason is the opposite- because someone wants to do something bad and is trying to get you to do it. You know, a bad trick.

It's confusing, but you should try to tell the difference!

We don't know if the ultrahive wants to use three stripes for something, or if bug compromised people are trying to use him. We need to be wary of that.

Also, hey, how are we on the language front? You can speak with Giant and your tribe, but you still don't know the words the other neumono use, right? What about your friends- has anyone in the tribe picked up English?

Unless I've read his "sun cycles" wrong, this is before the current Polo Quest, and only a little while after the whole original thing. Or even during the last bit of it - this might be the period in which Rokoa and Polo are recovering.

You're right; It would be rude to jar your friends awake. May as well cuddle up, doze for a while longer and think about stuff.

So, how well have things been for you and your adopted hive since you came here? Anything else happening other than the strange neumono showing up? What's the mood been like amongst you all? Still training with Giant to not be such a colossal wimp in a fight? Had a shared dream with your neumono friends yet? Tried going silent like Silent does, sneak up and surprise them?

In what way were the strange neumono strange? Were they silent like Silent, or was it that other way that silences everything nearby? Or were they not silent and just felt weird? Did they come in here those few times just to tell you that you might have to control neumono or did they do other things while in here?

Did your friends not like the strange neumono because they were strangers or 'cause they were strange? Was it 'cause they were acting mean or rude, or was it 'cause they were saying you might have to do stuff that you don't want to do?

Have you made it clear to the strange neumono that you don't want to control neumono anymore? Said that you like neumono that aren't controlled much more than ones that are; They're way better friends this way.

You might control some neumono for the strange neumono, if it's not for so long they can't recover, but first you want to understand why they want you to do that. All they'd have to do is send one of their own without silencing and then you could sense what their intent is and be sure they're not going to use you in a bad way.

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/04/30(Tue)20:39 No. 508272 ID: c4e5c2
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>Have you seen Silent or her friends at all since then?
Three Stripes hasn't at all, he hope she still visit sometime but is also worried that Three Stripes' friends won't like Silent.

The strangers weren't mean at all, if Three Stripes is honest he thinks that it was the tribals who were mean because they were trying to intimidate the strangers to go backwards. Which feels wrong because it was the strangers that Three Stripes thinks put everyone inside here where it seems safe and we don't have to fight for food. We hadn't seen them and they left us alone for a few suns and then they came back. Three Stripes might be supposed to not like them either because his friends don't but he doesn't understand why. He calls them strangers because they were silent too because of those weird metal things that make everything silent.

Giant gets up and gets on Three Stripes' back. She thinks it is time for food gathering, so we go.

Three Stripes has still gotten exercise but there is nothing to fight here. Giant is not so sure about that so she is always on edge when food time comes, especially since her spear was taken from her and there is nothing to fight with anymore. In fact everyone was moved around a lot before being put in here and looked at a lot by the strangers and Three Stripes has no idea what that was about but maybe that's why Giant and the others don't like the strangers.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/04/30(Tue)20:39 No. 508273 ID: c4e5c2
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The metal dings and the food comes out and we all start eating stuff. Three Stripes still has difficulty eating not neumono. Three Stripes either changes his mood or goes silent when he starts looking funny at them because he does not want them to know that his favorite meat is them because Three Stripes is pretty sure that neumono normally don't want to be eaten.

>Language barrier
Three Stripes does not know the strange neumono's language! This makes it difficult because they are always silent.

>Have Have you made it clear to the strange neumono that you don't want to control neumono anymore?
Three Stripes doesn't know how to do this while they are all silent.

He does know that he is still hungry.

>>508273
Was there not enough food to go around? See if there is more. Maybe ask your buddies if they can spare a bit since you're still hungry.

Three Stripes 2013/04/30(Tue)21:00 No. 508279 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes conveys that he is out of meat and that he is still hungry. The others think about it for a moment and start getting a little worried for some reason but also agitated. They tell Three Stripes that he has been eating more lately and eats more than anyone except Giant and that if he wants to find more food he has to find more food dingers.

Except everyone has looked so hard and we're in a really tiny place and we've only found one food dinger.

Are you missing something in your diet maybe? Without delicious neomono maybe you are not getting enough nutrition.

That or you are growing or pregnant. And pretty sure that last one isn't a option.

>He does know that he is still hungry.
...is there more food? You'd think if the group is splitting up portions by size, that'd you be getting enough.

Or if the stranger neumono put food in the food dinger, you'd think they'd make sure there was enough.

...unless they're not giving you enough food on purpose? Maybe that's what they meant when they said you might have to control neumono! It's a test! They want to see if you'll eat your friends when you get hungry! And if they told your friends about the neumono eating, maybe that's why they're agitated!

>eating more
Are you going through a growth spurt or something? I thought you were all grown up.

>timeframe
Did you do the weird controlling training you didn't like with Silent already?

Well I'll be the first to point out here that eating bits of your friends just won't work. They'd need to eat more to replace their missing bits, so basically it would be like a meat loan.

We should go looking around. In the worst case scenario you should just try to stop eating as much and get used to being hungry. Why are you eating more than you used to, anyway?

Next time the strangers show up, try to indicate with gestures that you need more food. Maybe go bang on whatever door they come in through.

Cool didn't know predators could go silent too!
Maybe Silent is actually a predator like you! It makes so much sense.

But yeah, okay, we're goign to need to get more food... maybe breakout of this dump? No fighting is good but starving is worse. Maybe the strange neumono are making neumono substitute for you? Or ask your friends to share your concerns to the strange ones next time they come. They've probably got a translator for them, so you speak to your friends, they speak to the strange translator and everything is hunky dory.

Because the food rations they're supplying simply isn't enough for a predator on a non-neumono diet, they're definitely going to have to start getting better foods more suited to you.\

>Pregnant
oh god
Three, bro, are you actually a sis? Oh my god that's actually a possibility. I thought about clones before but artificial pregnancy is very possible if your a lady! I just realized we never asked about your gender before! Or have we? I don't know!

well you could go look for more dingers, I mean you most likely won't find anything but at least it could distract you long enough to forget that your still hungry... at least for now.

Hang on, if you don't know the strange neumono's language, and they were jammed how did you know they were saying you might have to control neumono?

There any reason you or your friends can see or think of as to why you've been eating more? You're not exercising more than before, right? Not growing, are you? Not any wider, taller, longer, or fatter? If you have more muscle than before, maybe it's 'cause of that?

If you've been eating more lately, where has your greater portion come from? Are you taking more from the others, or has there been slightly more food coming in from the dinger? 'Cause if it's the former then it's no wonder why they're agitated at this development.

There is the possibility you're eating more 'cause the food doesn't contain, or doesn't contain enough of, something you'd usually get from eating neumono. Unfortunately the only way to test this theory is to eat neumono, which pretty much won't happen here without breaking your "no control" rule... Though...

Perhaps you could make a deal with your neumono friends to trade your share of the dinger food for less than that food's mass in ears and other bits? Could you even bend your "no control" rule just long enough to deaden their pain when you bite those bits off? However, this idea sounds like it'd really risk them not being your friends anymore, so file it away for later for in case there's no other option left.

For now investigate the food dinger. If it's anything like the ones back from where Giant came from, the food comes to it from elsewhere via tubes. So you just have to follow the tubes to the food. Start by digging around it's base to see if there's anything that way, then climb the dinger if digging doesn't get you anywhere.

>Pregnant?
...Uh. While it would seem impossible at first, you don't actually know everything about your species' reproductive biology, do you? For all you know your species turns self-inseminating hermaphroditic under these conditions. So categorize it under "improbable" until further notice.

>Could you even bend your "no control" rule just long enough to deaden their pain when you bite those bits off?
Pretty sure he explained before he has to pretty much completely dominate a neumono to be able to eat parts of them without causing pain. And since he doesn't want to control his buddies, or hurt anyone... kinda stuck.

>So you just have to follow the tubes to the food. Start by digging around it's base to see if there's anything that way, then climb the dinger if digging doesn't get you anywhere.
That's an idea! Or if any of the neumono are small enough, they could try following the tube from the inside to where the food comes from.

> Pregnant

Oh please yes, babby Three Stripes might just be the cutest thing.

Three Stripes 2013/05/01(Wed)12:27 No. 508373 ID: c4e5c2
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>Are you pregnant
What noooooooo.

Three Stripes doesn't think so. But Three Stripes also doesn't know why he is still so hungry. He hopes it is not because he is supposed to eat his friends.

Three Stripes was given more than his normal share so that is probably why the others are all agitated. He won't keep on asking though so he goes off alone and looks around for a new dinger but really doesn't find one so he goes back to the first that he does know exists. Giant still doesn't like Three Stripes wandering off alone but there is nothing around so Three Stripes insists it is okay.

He nudges it and tries to open the thing and digs around and then it dings again. It made new food and that is new.

well, take enough to fill up on then spread the rest around.

Well take it back and share, if you've been taking more than your fair share than you should repay them by sharing this.

>>508373
Well that's good at least.

Are you sure you're not getting bigger? You look bigger. That might be a problem.

Take food! Eat some, and share some with your friends. Food should make them less agitated, right!

...if you take the food out, and close and open the door, dose the dinger make more food?

Maybe the food they give you is like rabbit or something, and by itself it lacks some essential factor that Predators need?

Three Stripes, do you feel hungry for any particular kind of taste, rather than just neumono? Like, do you want something that's juicier or fattier or that otherwise feels a particular way on your tongue?

Make sure you share with your friends. Its not nice to go get more food and keep it all to yourself.

More food! Nice! ...Uh, just be a little cautious about it. Sniff and look it all over and give it a taste to see if it's any different. But if it checks out eat your share and take the rest to your buddies.

...Actually, before heading back, take the food out, close the dinger, and try some of the things you did right before the dinger delivered the food. Maybe you'll hit on the one that'll make it make more food. Then you'd have so much extra food you could eat 'till you're not hungry anymore and still have enough for your friends! That'd be great!

It's possible that you're more hungry not because, or not just because, the food you're eating is lacking in "neumono-ness." It could be your body is reacting to what appears to it to be a complete lack of neumono around by shifting towards making you a better lone hunter; Putting on muscle and making you bigger, stronger and tougher. That'd make sense for a Predator that's in a situation where it unable to capture neumono for a long time.

Did you ...ask if your friends want to be eaten? The answer may surprise you.

Well, you do have the power to make them feel really good. And probably dull the pain.
Maybe... maybe just the ears? You don't have to eat them right off themselves, just give them full control and will, but make them really fucking high as a kite so removing parts of the ears don't hurt.

Besides, neumono hate their ear sizes sometimes I'm pretty sure. They just keep getting in the way. Feeding them to you lets those oversized ears actually have a use.

I would not ask about eating anyone. It would make your friends upset and unless you are about to starve its not worth it.

>>508398
those ears are fat reserves so they don't need to be eating every minutes or starve.

>>508397
>>508398
Neumono eating cannot be done with light control.

>Three Stripes doesn't want to eat any part of these neumono because he would need to control them to make sure that eating them is painless and nice. If he ate them normally it would be so very painful for them and Three Stripes is willing to give up neumono food for that.

>>508399
And yeah. A little hungry isn't the point where you ask that.

I think your friends, from that worried reaction, already know you kindof want to eat them. I mean, you're a Predator. They expect that from you.

So tell at least Giant that you don't want to, because they wouldn't like it, and you don't have to.

Pretty sure the only reason they accepted us is because they don't know about how predators work. They view us as a big stupid neumono not as the worst racial enemy they have.

>>508411
Yeah, I don't think they knew. They might know now, if the stranger neumono told them (even if English has become the language of choice, there still have to be people who know the old tribal language(s). That's likely how the ultrahive is communicating, especially if they come in silenced by jammers).

But that's not something I would think Three Stripes should choose to bring up, unless it becomes a problem.

Okay since asking is off the table...
You know I wonder how humans would taste.
Ask for humans or another type of alien to eat.
Broaden your diet a little 3 stripes! Oooooh, maybe a moton or salikai!

Three Stripes 2013/05/01(Wed)22:04 No. 508432 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes takes it back and eats a bit himself and everyone is really happy with Three Stripes. They are also confused though because that has never happened and wants to know what Three Stripes did but Three Stripes doesn't really know.

Three Stripes' stomach is full but he still feels hungry. He does not know how to try and talk to the strangers and he hasn't seen the strangers talk to friends so Three Stripes doesn't know if they speak the same words. Three Stripes will try to speak to the strangers because he knows a few words but not many.

>Have you asked if the neumono don't want to be eaten?
... Three Stripes hasn't! He just kind of assumed. But he doesn't have the nerve to ask!

He does ask though if they have ever seen anything like him and they say no they haven't. Maybe that is why they aren't like regular neumono that try and run whenever I meet. Except the strangers don't anymore and...

There is a noise coming from a ways and Three Stripes knows this means that strangers are coming inside. Three Stripes' friends' good mood suddenly goes away and they're going to start trying to defend Giant or something.

what's the stranger's empathy feel like, or do they have it were you can't feel it right now? Well if it is the strangers this could be your chance to try and tell them about your hunger problems.

>>508430
So from the few words you know, you figured out they were saying you might have to control neumono? Or was it nonverbal communication like with Silent that one time?

Do you know enough words to tell them you're full but still hungry? I think that is important. It's like you can't live without eating neumono meat. It's a depressing thought. Would you rather starve to death rather than eat your new friends? You should try to ask the strange neumono for help with this hunger problem.

if you can communicate then something like "stomach full, still hungry" would be simple enough to send the message. does sound like you are missing something in your diet.

Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)00:05 No. 508444 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes doesn't know if he can ask about food with silent neumono, because he doesn't sense anyone. He doesn't understand many of their words but they use shiny diagrams that Three Stripes can understand but he can't make them back so it's unfair.

He follows friends to go look at where they are and that isn't a neumono at all. It is alone. Friends are confused because they were expecting neumono. But he wears the funny clothing so Three Stripes starts patting his stomach and opening his mouth to try and show he cannot eat right anymore and he conveys this and friends are worried and confused.

He keeps his hands up for some reason but then his metal thing starts showing images of Three Stripes and the funny looking thing and friends, but then funny looking thing and Three Stripes start moving away and friends don't follow.

His hands being up is a gesture of submission. He wants you to follow. Maybe he knows about the food problem and will take you to better food! You should be sure to tell your friends that it is okay before leaving.

stare at him for a minute. then sigh in exasperation. be really grumpy but agree to go with him. would probably use more dangerous method later if you don't

Those creatures use their hands like mouths, so when they hold them up it's like closing your mouth and is less of a threat posture.

>>508444
Tell your friends that this one wants you to follow by yourself... and that it might be a good idea for you to do so. Tell them not to worry about you.

I'm starting to think that the strange neumono are going to want you to control neumono that aren't their friends.

When the strangers come and make everything silent, has three stripes ever come in contact with one of his friends?
Could three stripes hear them then?

>Three Stripes' stomach is full but he still feels hungry.
Aw. We're missing some kind of dietary requirement. Something in the food you used to eat you aren't getting anymore. Either from neumono, or those mushrooms, I guess.

>Three Stripes' friends' good mood suddenly goes away and they're going to start trying to defend Giant or something.
Doy. That old tribal hive attitude. Old style neumono have a hard time getting along with others.

>Funny creature
Look, it's a sheep! How funny!

Hands up is a sign of nonviolent intent. He's showing he doesn't have any weapons, and he can't hurt you with anything. Respond with a Vaota- that's your way of saying the same thing. Hopefully they've learned that word from you, or Silent told them, or something.

Then calm your friends down. This sheep person doesn't seem dangerous, and wants you to come with him. You're going to go see what he wants, okay? You'll be okay, and you'll be back. (Goodbye hugs?).

Then go with the sheep thing. Maybe we can ask for a glass thing of our own? (Point to the glass thing, point to yourself, mime putting it on?). ...that or you could try drawing pictures on the ground since you don't have a glass thing to make pictures. Like you did with silent that one time.

Hey new food!
Eat the sheep! Share with friends!

Okay, not really, but you should lick him to see how he tastes. But hide it as friendship licking instead of trying out how he tastes kind of lick. I mean, aren't you curious?

um, have sheep ever come by before that you have seen or is this a first?

Look back to your friends and tell them that you think this horned not-neumono is here to lead you out of here, without them. Your friends are probably not going to like that, and will move to threaten the not-neumono, so right away tell them that you are going to go with him.

Your friends are going to think you shouldn't go, so you're going to have to give them a reason for your actions, without revealing your hunger for their flesh. Tell them that you've been getting hungrier and hungrier, even when you eat, and even now when you're full. You don't know why, and you don't know how to stop it, but you do know you're not going to find a solution in here. That if there's a solution, you're going to have to go out there.

Then engage in much hugging and reassurance of your friends that you'll be alright before reluctantly leaving.

So, before, when the strange neumono came in here, were there any non-neumono with them? Ones like or not like this one with the horns?

1/3 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)15:58 No. 508486 ID: c4e5c2
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>Those creatures use their hands like mouths, so when they hold them up it's like closing your mouth and is less of a threat posture.
That is sort of weird but so is this thing so Three Stripes will assume he is trying to not be dangerous. Three Stripes has never seen anything like this before.

>When the strangers come and make everything silent, could three stripes hear them then?
Mostly yes but there was one time when they got their metal thing close and then everything went silent and Three Stripes didn't like that much and neither did friends.

Three Stripes tells his friends he might have to go alone but Giant says she is not going to let Three Stripes because of what happened last time. Three Stripes says it is important though because he is not eating well and he doesn't know when he'll be back. Giant eventually lets Three Stripes go and everyone gives him goodbye and

2/3 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)15:58 No. 508487 ID: c4e5c2
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The weird horn thing leads Three Stripes to the opposite corner and that wasn't far at all. Three Stripes licks him to sense what he tastes like. Not very good. He is nice though because he stays still to let Three Stripes find out.

3/3 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)15:58 No. 508488 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes backs away and the horn person's metal thing starts showing images again. It shows Three Stripes eating neumono and doing well. Then it shows Three Stripes eating other things and showing Three Stripes dying and that is mean.

Then it shows strangers trying to get close to Giant and being pushed away. Then it shows the strangers trying to get close to Giant, and Three Stripes is around this time and Giant is not pushing them away because Three Stripes is controlling them. Then the strangers put something on Giant's arm and then take that something away and leave Giant alone. Then the horn thing asks if Three Stripes understands, because Three Stripes knows that word.

ask why. thats important.

Hmm.

It looks like he's suggesting that you might not be able to survive without eating neumono meat, which could be a problem.

Also, they're trying to ... I guess check up on Giant and the other neumono but she's unwilling to cooperate, and he wants you to help them with that too.

I don't trust their motives for the last thing. Say you don't understand.

>she is not going to let Three Stripes because of what happened last time
Wait, what bad thing happened last time? Does she mean when you got poked in the eye?

>pictures
Can you draw? On the ground?

The first part seems to be asking why you don't want to eat your friends, because it seems to think you have to.

Draw a neumono head. Fill it with all kinds of interesting squiggles and symbols and things. Then draw yourself controlling it. Erase all the interesting things in the neumono head, and replace them with a boring, regular series of lines. Then draw you being sad. (Ie, you don't like to control the neumono because it makes them into boring pets instead of interesting people).

Then for the second part. He's making a request for you to control giant so they can do something to her. Redraw his picture, but change it- cross out your controlling her, and change it to you talking to her.

Then try to ask why the thing they want to put on her is important. Do you know how to draw a question mark yet?

they want some of giant's blood. but she is too powerful to just take it. and yes it seems that you die if you don't eat some neumono meat.

try to say use the metal thing on you in front of giant so she can see it isn't a threat.

>>508488
He's saying you can't live without eating neumono. As in, you will basically starve to death even if you have other food. Which is what we suspected.

He's also saying he wants you to control Giant so they can do some sort of test on her. I think you should tell him we understand but you refuse to control her. Maybe you can point at the controlling Giant part and shake your head.

If you just don't get it, tell him you don't understand.

Lick his face to show appreciation for them caring.

Respond that you do understand, and you don't like it one bit; Especially the second part. You don't want to control your friends, even for a little bit. Then they'd be angry and fearful of you and wouldn't be your friends anymore once they realized what you did to them.

Show the horn thing that you don't want to control Giant or the others by pointing at her image of being controlled and shaking your head. Point to her image of being not controlled and pantomime talking to show you'll speak to her to convince her to let the strangers near. After all, if all they want to do is put a thing on her arm and then take it away, that doesn't look so bad.

As for the first part: You don't like that you have to eat neumono to survive, but its something you suspected was true once your hunger set in. However, it doesn't mean you have to control your friends to eat them. If you tell them that you need to eat neumono to not starve, they might willingly let you eat a bit of them, even with the pain. You may not even need much neumono to not be hungry anymore, meaning you'd only need to eat a little bit of them occasionally.

Draw an X on the picture of you eating your neumono friends, make sure you point at them and then at the picture first so they know who you mean. That way they'll know you understand them but they won't think you want to do as they say because if you just nod that's what they might think. Then if they give you something to draw with draw you eating other neumono (maybe point away from your friends and then at that picture?) and put a question mark next to it. Also draw neumono eating food like mushrooms and things and then you eating the same food the neumono eat. If there's something that neumono have in them that needs to be in you then you should just be able to get it from where the neumono get it, because if it's something you need it doesn't make much sense if the neumono can make it themselves and you can't.

Maybe draw a picture of all of you and your friends sleeping and them doing the thing with Giant while she's asleep?

Yeah looks like you are missing something vital that only eating neumono will fix. But once you start controlling your friends there is really no going back. They want you to help them get some sort of device onto giant. Hope its not filled with mind control bugs.

Are these mathematicians studying you or what? Where are the biologists? Why can't they just examine what exactly your body is low on?
These are some pretty incompetent researchers.

What other foods than neumono pals did you eat before coming here?

>>508488
You should try and ask somehow for already practically braindead neumono or neumono they tried rescuing from predators but couldn't recover from their hypnotized state. You don't want to accidentally render giant and the rest permanently under your spell. They're far too unique friends, they weren't even all that scared of you when you first showed up and were all honest and not controlling of them.

Then again, you could try and practice with them with their permission, hone your art. Maybe you can do really cool stuff like four stripes did. Maybe you CAN get them high without having to take full control if you have enough practice! I mean, shit, you remember how cool four stripes was with his guys? He probably bragged to you about it with how shitty of a person he was, maybe even told you how to do the cool stuff. Dared you.

Third option: Try to ask for spare neumono parts. Their hive probably loses limbs all the time, probably parts that are completely useless for reattachment or whatever. Just shoot them down the tube like the other food. I understand there's a language barrier, but there must be some way to get the requests across.

humans can't produce vitamin C. like every other animal CAN. is why we get scurvy. eating the livers of animals works because liver is high in C.

Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)18:13 No. 508521 ID: c4e5c2
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>What other foods than neumono pals did you eat before coming here?
Three Stripes has only eaten some kind of meat that all tastes the same around friends, but before friends and Silent came Three Stripes only ate neumono inside of the cave and fed them mushrooms.

Three Stripes makes a drawing of Giant and a lot of interesting symbols and stuff. And then Three Stripes controls Giant and it all goes away and Giant is not interesting anymore, so then he draws Three Stripes talking to Giant and letting horn person put a metal thing on Giant's arm. Horn person says maybe.

The next thing Three Stripes draws is horn person showing the metal thing to Giant to make pictures but then horn person looks nervous about that, so Three Stripes draws him eating friends, and then a big X over it to show he won't do that. There is no response but it looks like he might be thinking and Three Stripes can't tell. So Three Stripes tries to draw pictures to show that he might want to eat other neumono meat if some is around but he doesn't know and maybe he shouldn't draw that because it might be misunderstood.

Horn person takes a deep breath and then takes out that metal thing like in the pictures and starts moving it closer to Three Stripes and that makes Three Stripes nervous because it is metal and metal things do things.

Let him use it. Then you can tell Giant what it does, so she will be forewarned.

well it showed that giant was okay after the metal thing. i don't think it will do something horrible. probably a pinch though. need a blood sample to see what you are missing.

Well its a medical probe if they are part of the non infiltrated hive or could be a box of burrowing mind control droids if they are.

Either way you are in there power and if we don't find a solution you are going to starve to death. So let him do his thing but be prepared for anything.

You never ate any mushrooms yourself? Like, even as a snack while waiting for the neumono parts to grow back?

> it is metal and metal things do things
That's probably why the sheep wanted you to control Giant. It does something, and he's afraid of Giant. She's big and scary and strong, and might be angry if the metal thing did something!

He's showing it to you because you're less scary than Giant. If you're going to talk Giant into letting him use it, you'll have to see what it does.

So calm your fear and nervousness and see what happens.

...you don't sense anything from the thing, right? No empathy? (Please don't let it be a shot full of mind control bugs).

Draw a big ole question mark

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)19:21 No. 508532 ID: c4e5c2
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The metal is cold and it pushes against Three Stripes' arm but nothing happens and

uh something feels weird in Three Stripes arm.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)19:21 No. 508533 ID: c4e5c2
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It's inside it's inside it's

it's taking blood it's taking blood it's taking blood

>>508533
Whine at him.

Whine and tear up, and otherwise be cute, but don't jerk away or try to get it out, that'll just make it hurt more, and this is so they can find out if you are healthy or not, besides the aforementioned not-eating-Neumono stuff.

Calm down! Remember the pictures, he's going to take it out in a minute! And it's a little thing, it can't take much blood. There's no room!

And I mean, you've been hurt worse than this before and been okay, right? You must have been cut or injured at some point. And you used to eat whole parts off your old neumono pet-buddies, and they were okay! Losing a little blood should be okay.

Don't panic don't panic don't panic.

And don't hurt the sheep thing either! It's clearly scared you might do something crazy now, and you're a lot bigger and stronger than he is. That's why he's afraid to do this to Giant without you controlling her- she's a lot scarier than you, and he's just a funny little horned sheep thing.

It's cool Three Stripes. Maybe it's just a trade, blood for food? You know what trade means right? It doesn't look all that vicious, that little metal thing. Just blood.

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)19:48 No. 508540 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes whines loudly and tries to tell him to stop and he looks scared too for some reason but he does stop.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/02(Thu)19:48 No. 508541 ID: c4e5c2
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Giant heard Three Stripes' whine and is rushing to him and starts chasing the horn person that starts running away with the metal thing.

heh, oops. Get in Giants way to let the thing escape.

Vaota! Vaota!

Get in Giant's way, don't let her hurt the sheep thing! He only hurt you a little, and he's trying to help. She'll do a lot worse, and he looks fragile!

Emit some peace and try to tell Giant to stop.

Don't let her kill the guy or anything.

Haha just watch what happens, lick your arm if it's sore.

Try to let Giant know he was just trying to help.

explain to giant that he was trying to find what you need inside that you used to get by eating people.

why do I find this so funny?

I say try and tell Giant you're fine but I'm not to sure she's going to stop... and I'm sure she's going to be mad at you when she's done chasing the sheep around

>>508541
Right now I'm picturing this happening well Benny hill is playing

We could also show Giant the 'wound', and that you were just being a wuss, really, you're fine.

>>508545
I would refrain from actual control though unless the sheep thing's life is in danger (like, Giant has him already and is going for the kill).

>>508551
ix-nay on the eating eople-pay!

Tell Giant that you were more surprised than hurt and that he is trying to find a way to help you with your eating problem.

Aw, really, what the horned thing did wasn't that bad! He was just helping by showing you what the metal thing did. And now Giant is involved and thinks he hurt you and is going to try and really hurt him, and he doesn't deserve that.

Block Giant's path to the horned thing and keep blocking it until he gets away. Tell Giant the whole time that you're alright, and that he didn't do anything bad to you. That he was actually trying to help you, and that you were just startled by what he did and you're a big wimp for whining about it.

Oh! Here's an idea: The metal thing looked easy enough to use, so maybe the strangers could leave the metal thing and Giant could use it on herself. Then they wouldn't have to come in here to do it and she wouldn't get all territorial and chase them off. Shame it's too late to tell this idea to the horned thing now.

Theory: The meat Three-stripes was eating at the Salikai base may have been cloned/cultured Neumono flesh. The sampling device may not just be blood, but taking a biopsy in order to grow more meat for Three-stripes.

No no! Stop her! Hug her!

>>508574
If they were just going to clone or culture meat for him (assuming the outside world has even figured out that tech) why would they need a sample from Giant? You'd think any neumono would work.

>>508591
my guess is that predators specifically need neumino brain cells to live. It would explain why they can't just inject neutrients into the food or give pills.

Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)10:57 No. 508670 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes yells Voata and emits peace for Giant, telling her that he is alright and was just surprised. She glares at the horn person but believes Three Stripes and tells him to tell her what went on and if he is hiding anything then she will bite him.

...tell her everything.

Don't hide anything, then! Tell her you think they want to take your blood so they can figure out why you're still hungry no matter how much you eat, and they want to take some of her blood so they can figure out something about her maybe, and they wanted you to help them persuade her to let them do that. And tell her everything else.

>>508591
I think they want a sample from her to figure out how the salikai were making neumono grow really big. Korli mentioned growth hormones at some point, I think? And some other aspect of the process that lets them make as many queen-type neumono as they want.

well tell her everything about your encounter with the sheep, including that he didn't taste very good, she does kinda of know about you mind control thing you do but you told her that you can't do that anymore so if you want you could keep going with that or you could risk telling her that no you can still control them at a moments notice if you felt like it. your choice.

...how does giant get those teeth to stay in her ears, anyways? By pushing them in from the other side?

>>508672
Which also includes:

You're pretty sure the outsider nuemono are trying to help and learn something from us, and they're the ones putting the food in the dingers anyways, since we left the Salikai place and the mountain in their noisy metal bird thing and the Salikai guys aren't around anymore to make the dingers work.

Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)11:55 No. 508679 ID: c4e5c2
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>How does giant get those teeth to stay in her ears?
Giant pushes them through her whole ear and Three Stripes thinks it must be painful but she does it anyway and then they just sort of stay there.

Three Stripes says that he is pretty sure that the strangers are the ones putting the food in the dinger even though he has never seen them do it but it sort of makes sense because Three Stripes doesn't think that meat makes itself. Three Stripes doesn't really understand what they are trying to do but Three Stripes trusts Silent and Silent said that they were going to take care of Three Stripes and friends even if they wanted to take Three Stripes' blood. Three Stripes thinks that they are going to try to understand things like why Giant is giant and why Three Stripes has to eat neumono or else he'll die because neumono are the most delicious and the horn person tastes bad.

Three Stripes blurted out that last part and he didn't mean to yet and Giant asks what this was about needing to eat neumono so Three Stripes explains that he really didn't want to eat or control neumono anymore. Giant says to stop being silly about controlling because she still thinks that Three Stripes can't do that.

Giant hits Three Stripes a little but it doesn't hurt.

She says that Three Stripes is an idiot and should have said something about eating neumono earlier and starts taking teeth out of her ears.

She is going to give you her ears. I wonder if this will help...

>>508680

Well the pictures "Horn guy" showed did show the exact same thing, it showed him eating an ear and being healthy.

I know we need to do this to live but I'm still kinda hesitant to do so.

>>508679
Tell her you are very grateful, and you didn't think she would like it because it hurts, and normally you make it not hurt but that would require a lot of the controlling thing. If she really just doesn't believe you, you could prove it. Only if she gives you permission though.

Can you do a little bit of control to make it not hurt as much when she gives you her ear, without any lasting effect on her mind? Wait until all the teeth are out, of course.

tell her that if you go nuts she can beat you up to stop you.

Whine again. Tell her you don't want to hurt friends because then they won't be friends any more.

tell her if she wants proof just point you at another hive that is made of nothing but assholes.

Um. Um. Um. Be excited and confused and worried and grateful at the same time.

>Three Stripes is an idiot and should have said something about eating neumono earlier
He didn't know! He went a long time without eating neumono and didn't get the weird hunger that wouldn't go away until just a little while ago! And he thought it might make his friends afraid or not like him like the other nuemono who always come in with the things that make them silent to hide from him. ...and he doesn't want want to hurt anyone.

Gratefully accept delicious ear

Don't push the fact that you totally can control neumono 'cause it really doesn't matter right now

remember to say thank you!

She... She's going to let you eat her? Willingly? With no controlling? And her ear, where she has to take out all those teeth she fought so hard to collect? ...You might just cry with joy that you have a friend that would do such for you.

Turn into a sun-like radiant ball of gratitude and happiness at having the very bestest friend ever, combined with relief that even though she now knows about you needing to eat neumono she didn't turn against you and reluctance to cause your friend pain. Start blabbering out all of this, have your limited vocabulary trip you up, and end up saying "thank you" over and over.

...So. How are you two going to do this with the least amount of pain for her? She going to cut the ear off with a tooth? Or plainly rip it off? Or are you going to take it into your mouth and bite it off?

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)13:36 No. 508706 ID: c4e5c2
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Oh geez oh geez oh geez Three Stripes doesn't know what to think about this because it seems like Giant is going to hurt herself and maybe Three Stripes should dim the pain just a little this time and Three Stripes asks Giant if she is really going to take her ear off but she is already showing that she is and Three Stripes starts stamping the ground for some reason and Giant is amused and

And now Three Stripes smells the blood and he is trying to be calm and cool about this and is trying to not eat Giant right now and it feels like he hasn't eaten in weeks and then Three Stripes tells her that he doesn't want to hurt her and Giant says that this is nothing and Three Stripes says there should be a better way than

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)13:36 No. 508707 ID: c4e5c2
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Giant rips and throws her ear at Three Stripes and Giant is the best and he makes sure that Giant knows that Three Stripes thinks that she is the best.

chew, swallow, do not succumb do bloodlust, do not collect $200.

Eat it slowly, try to control yourself.

OM NOM NOM NOM

Man giant is the best friend.

Eat Giant the awesome ear as slow as you can, because who knows when you will get another.

When done, hug Giant, because giant is the best. And then maybe we can try to explain some of this >>508695 stuff later about why you didn't do anything.

>sheep-thing and everyone else watching via hidden science-camera
Try not to be freaked out too much. :V

Calm down and just eat then thank giant relentlessly

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)15:25 No. 508725 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes calmly eats the ear and then the ear is gone and Three Stripes feels a lot better and hugs Giant and explains that he was afraid friends wouldn't be friends anymore if they realized that Three Stripes had to eat neumono.

Giant says friends wouldn't be friends if they can't sacrifice an ear every once in awhile to save an ally and

Three Stripes has to be careful not to accidentally control Giant with too much gratitude but he makes sure that she is the best all the way home.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)15:26 No. 508726 ID: c4e5c2
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No one comes again to bother Three Stripes and friends until night comes and the light is dim and then the door to the exit sounds off again and everyone is alerted but no neumono are sensed but Crown says that she smells a neumono so there must be the silent box.

Get up, be ready to protect your bros.
For some reason I don't like this!

be ready to break the silent box if you have to. maybe let the others know about it

Do they ever come at night because if not I got a bad feeling about this. Be ready to protect your friends if it comes to that but unless it looks like they are going to hurt your friends don't attack first incase they're actually here for a good reason

Well, a silent box, or Silent.

Do we go see who it is, or do we wait for them to come to us?

>>508726
Art error: Giant's left ear is intact. And Crown's (or whatever that one's name is) looks damaged

Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)16:09 No. 508746 ID: c4e5c2
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Art error: It is supposed to be Giant's right ear that is taken off.

Three Stripes also ate Crown's ear because she offered and Three Stripes couldn't refuse.

He gets up and goes over and the rest of everyone follows behind to investigate and it is silent and the other neumono are weirded out and start to growl but Three Stripes tells Giant that she met Silent already and that she was the one inside of the metal while riding on top of Toothy because they were playing a game Three Stripes thinks. Giant does not really like it but will say that if it is a friend of Three Stripes then she guesses that Giant won't fight her as long as she doesn't try and live here.

say hi.

Engage GROUP HUGS.

Hugs! All of the hugs! Flailing, gallumphing, dangerously enthusiastic hugs!

Engage hugs!

...and broadcast coffee-cake emotions. :V

After that, try and find out what Silent is doing here, and what she has in that big pack of stuff (it's not a silence-box, since she doesn't need one!), and that Giant says she can visit so long as she doesn't try to move it.

>>508746
That's not Silent
Smell her, lick her friendly like to be sure
Maybe I'm just being paranoid. There's something off. Maybe it's her feet or the lighting but... hmm.

>>508755
I agree, something seems slightly off. I can't pinpoint what though.

say coffee cake.

Disregard paranoia hug Silent

Ask if silent is ok

Three Stripes 2013/05/04(Sat)17:43 No. 508788 ID: c4e5c2
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Three Stripes goes to hug and lick and get a closer look at Silent and it tastes and looks like Silent and so Three Stripes doesn't think anything is wrong. Giant comes over and picks Silent up and Crown looks through the bag and realizes there is no silence box and so Giant asks why Silent is broken and so tiny and it bugs her and Three Stripes says she isn't broken she is just like that and there is nothing wrong with it.

ask if silent wanted to visit or if she wants something.

Yeah find out why she is visiting you.

>>508788
Ask her what the occasion is.

Silent isn't tiny, you're just Giant! Not all neumono can be big.

And Silent isn't broken. She just knows how to make her empathy shut up when she wants to. She can turn it back on when she wants, and unlike the silent boxes, she can still hear! And unlike the boxes, it doesn't mess with any else's empathy, either.

Tell Giant to stop manhandling (neumonohandling?) Silent. It ain't genteel.

Greet Silent, and be happy she's here, and ask what's new with her and whatnot?
Oh and maybe mention to Giant that she doesn't like being picked up. Even if she is one of the smallest neumomo you've ever seen.

Silent can totally stand up for herself, we should just watch.

Silent is just able to pretend that she sleeping or something, she can hear you even if you can't hear her, so maybe ask her to go not silent for a moment so they know she's ok and she's not up to anything mean.

Who knows why she's tiny, maybe she never ate enough?

>>508788
Is Crown digging around in her backpack? So rude.

Put your front paw under Silent's feet to hold her up while asking Giant to put her down, 'cause Silent doesn't look like she likes being picked up.

Then tell Silent you were worried she wouldn't or something had happened to her, and then be all glad that Silent has come to visit and ask her where she's been and how she's doing and what she's been doing and just all the questions. Especially how long she's going to be here, 'cause you'd really like Silent to live here but Giant would really not and that's alright 'cause Silent is here now for awhile. Nose around in Silent's bag while doing that to see and smell if she brought anything neat.

Art error with Giant's left ear again.

ask silent what she has been up to lately.

Three Stripes 2013/05/05(Sun)14:38 No. 508876 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes conveys to Giant that maybe she should let Silent down and Giant shrugs and guesses so but she is going to keep an eye on Silent and Three Stripes is okay with that. Three Stripes asks Silent why she came and doesn't think she can understand Three Stripes' words so he conveys it.

Silent brought in a metal picture sheet and speaks some words to it and starts showing Silent holding a ball up. Then Three Stripes controls Silent and makes her drop the ball. Then Three Stripes stops controlling Silent, and Silent picks the ball up again and Three Stripes makes her drop it again and this repeats a lot and each time Silent is able to hold onto the ball longer even though picture Three Stripes is trying to make her drop it.

Silent wants you to control her? How... weird!

...I guess it's sort of like what you do with Giant? She trains you so you won't be a wimp in a fight, and Silent wants you to train her mind so she won't be a wimp if someone tries to fight her that way.

But why would she even need to worry about mind-fighting? She's Silent, she can avoid the whole thing! Unless there's something out there that can get past silence? You don't know.

...you guess you can do that, though you're not sure you want to. Is Silent sure? This feels weird.

...if and when you get control of Silent? Don't just make her drop the ball. Make her do something silly, like backflips and cartwheels, before you let her go. Because she can totally do neat stuff like that, but is usually too serious to fool around.

I think she's teasing you. You can't make her drop the ball because she's Silent so she's going to hold it no matter what!

Ask if she really means it or if she is joking, because you don't find this very funny. Truth be told it makes you a little uneasy

She... thinks you controlling her for a little bit over and over will make her harder to control? Express doubt that that works that way.

>>508876
She wants to have a better ability to resist against your kind's mind control, probably like how she trained for being Silent. Just in case she's caught off guard by Four Stripes or another Stripe. Do you have a problem with that?

I wonder if Mama Stripes is alive? She might catch her off guard! And I bet she's even more powerful than you or Four!

You don't do that anymore, Silent!

>Make her do something silly, like backflips and cartwheels
...and pirouette! Make her pirouette!

...Uh. Silent wants you to control her? Is she serious? ...Of course she's serious; She's Silent. Um... But, still... Ask Silent to not be silent for a moment so you'll know for sure she's seriously serious about this. If she is then you guess you'll do it. But she has to take plenty of rests so you don't end up messing her mind up on accident.

Dang, this still makes you uneasy. You don't like to control neumono anymore... But if she wants to be controlled, then maybe it's okay as long as it's only for a little bit.

>>508877
>>508885
You're trying really hard not to treat neumono like your playthings, so no making Silent do silly things... Even though she is too serious all the time and could stand to loosen up a bit. But that's something she shouldn't be forced to do. ...But what you could do is have her throw the ball for you to catch, if that wouldn't be too much harder than making her drop it.

Wow, I think Silent wants you to play a game with her!

>>508876
Express concern about the controlling thing. Is she sure? We'll do it if she's sure. It sounds like she wants to do this so other Predators can't control her.

I think we should try to play it straight and just try to make her drop the ball, then once she gets better at that, we start trying to make her do other things with it. Once she's pretty resistant no matter what weird things we try to make her do with the ball, we can introduce a distraction. Have Giant poke her or something while she does it.

Well if Silent wants to play she wants to play. Maybe do it somewhere a little more private, so you don't weird out your friends?

also you get to show giant that you can totally make people do things.

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/07(Tue)10:03 No. 509101 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes lets her know that he feels very uneasy about this and also is pretty sure it doesn't work that way because once he gets a feel for a neumono, they actually become easier to control and Silent should just be Silent anyway.

Silent then says more words to the metal and pictures show up with Three Stripes denying to control Silent, so Silent shrugs and then goes off and then another predator gets her and controls her and eats her so Three Stripes guesses he will control her even if he thought she can just go silent whenever.

Three Stripes says okay and so Silent goes Unsilent and Three Stripes' friends are kind of spooked but Silent starts looking for her ball.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/07(Tue)10:04 No. 509102 ID: c3663c
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Crown popped it.

>>509102
Give Crown the saddest expression you can muster.

then just give silent a rock or something to do the same thing, I mean you're in a cave there has to be some rocks laying around here somewhere.

>>509102
that was the meanest mean thing a meanie could do

>pretty sure it doesn't work that way because once he gets a feel for a neumono, they actually become easier to control
Maybe it works both ways? If a neumono got a feel for a predator, if they knew his tricks, they could avoid them better? I mean, people can fight each other to get better at fighting! Maybe you just never gave any neumono a chance to fight back and practice!

I mean, how would you know? The pet neumono were too well trained to fight back, and aside from them you only controlled silent's friends (Grumpy and Scared-of-hugs) and Toothy like one time each!

>crown popped the ball
Crown, that's not food!

...no big deal, though. There's got to be all kinds of other things she could hold for the test. Anything in her pack, rocks, a stick, whatever. (Or instead, you could just make her do something silly when she loses a match. I mean, this is sort of a game, right?).

>Silent not silent
...now that you can hear her, did she notice the ears? She's not, um, bothered by that, right? You didn't make them do that, really!

Three Stripes 2013/05/07(Tue)10:30 No. 509108 ID: c3663c
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Silent doesn't actually care that much but Three Stripes pouts at crown. Silent will just hold a rock because she doesn't think it actually matters what the object is, she just wants to have Three Stripes make her drop it.

Three Stripes wonders if Silent noticed that Three Stripes ate a couple of ears but she doesn't really seem to think about that so Three Stripes doesn't know.

Silent asks Three Stripes to start and so Three Stripes does and silent lasts about 15 seconds before Three Stripes thinks he can make her drop the rock now. Giant and the others are kind of confused and wondering what Three Stripes is doing because they haven't felt Three Stripes do a controlling empathy before and don't know what to expect.

Aw, Silent is kind of cute when she makes that struggling face!

Now that you're in Silent's head, do you notice anything different about her? Maybe why she can go silent and other neumono can't? Is there like a switch somewhere? (But don't throw it! If you made Silent go silent while she was controlled, she might get stuck or something bad).

Drop the rock? And then let her go. (Save making her do silly stuff for a few rounds in).

>>509108
no mercy! make her drop it! it's the only way for her to get better

just make her drop it as this seems to be freaking your friends out a little. If you can find a nice quit spot in the cave to do this then you can make her do silly things. I think if you did that in front of your friends they would freak out even more.

Oh, and if possible, you may want to only control her enough to get the drop each time, instead of going for getting her fully pacified. Neumono kind of stop thinking normally in that state, and if Silent's crazy idea about learning how to fight off control is gonna work, you should try and let her be aware for as much of the process as possible.

Three Stripes 2013/05/07(Tue)11:12 No. 509113 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes makes Silent drop the ball and then stops controlling Silent to be safe. Silent recovers fine and isn't a pacified neumono and she conveys that Three Stripes did well, and to stop controlling her once he succeeds.

So she picks the ball up again and then drops it after about the same amount of time again. Giant asks what Three Stripes is doing because she is confused.

Three Stripes is playing a game where he makes Silent drop the ball rock!

...it's not a very good game though, since Three Stipes isn't sure Silent can win, and games where one person win all the time get boring.

Three Stripes told Giant he could make neumono do things!

This smells like science to me. But what kind of science, I wonder!

Either that or Silent is just being silly. Because who picks up rocks just to put them down again really.

tell silent that giant doesn't believe you can make neumonos do things because you never had a reason to since getting here.

>>509113
tell her you're helping her train.

Three Stripes 2013/05/07(Tue)11:37 No. 509118 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes explains he is playing a game to make Silent drop the ball although he doesn't think Silent can win without going silent because he can control any neumono like he said and he just doesn't want to anymore but will for Silent because it might be important apparently. He also tells Silent that his friends don't know that he can control other neumono.

Giant picks up Silent's rock and says prove it.

Okay?

Wait, this might be a better game now! Maybe they can't beat you, but with more neumono it can be a competition against each other to see who holds out longer!

Go ahead and show her but be very careful.

>>509118
say that you'd really really rather not. she's your friend and that'd feel wrong.

>>509118
welp.

You've told her before and she didn't beleive you. The whole mind control thing has to be brought out in the open to your little buddies sooner or later, so it might as well be now.

If worse comes to worse you might have to be separated from them though.

Okay! Make silent grab the rock from Giants hand and drop it.

Be super reluctant about it, but I don't know if Giant is gonna let you say no.

>>509125
Hahah yes.
Giant might get mad at us if we straight up control her, so we gotta make it clear that we haven't done that to her before and won't unless she straight up asks like Silent did.

give it a try just be ready to stop as soon as the rock is out of her hands or she tells you to stop.

Make it a game for everyone! Prizes for whoever lasts longest! But what will the prizes be? Ask Silent if she has anything.

I wouldn't say no directly to Giant if I were you because I think she'd be insulted by people trying not to hurt her. You did control your friends for a little while once and let them go and they didn't seem to mind, but they were the smaller friends and not Giant so they were used to not being in charge. But she should be able to tell that you don't mean anything bad.

Make Silent and Giant hug instead

Well I was going to say friends don't control friends (except Silent because she is weird) but the idea of turning it into a game is too much fun to pass up.

Make Giant throw the rock up in the air and catch it. She'll know what you can do, but can still save face to the rest of the tribe that she didn't drop the rock.

>>509118
I think we'd better take her seriously. Just ask her to promise she won't be mad at you, first.

actually this could be good! make it so your friends CAN'T be controlled by you, then you don't have to worry about ever doing it by accident.

>>509125
Funny, but it doesn't prove Silent isn't just pretending with Three Stripes. ...and I'm not sure if that would do anything except get her swatted away by Giant.

Three Stripes 2013/05/13(Mon)12:47 No. 510355 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes makes Giant promise that she won't get mad if he controls her to prove it and Giant says he can't and Three Stripes makes her promise anyway and she does.

Three Stripes says it will be a game and whoever can last the longest at the end of the game will get a prize and asks Silent if she has any prizes.

Silent says she brought some food.

Crown is eating it.

Giant says that Crown will stop eating Silent's food if Silent wins even though Giant thinks this is silly, but Crown will get all of Silent's food if Giant win even though she thinks this is pointless. Crown says that Three Stripes did do something weird when they met but he stopped and never did it again, but Crown knows he can but wants to fight Silent because she doesn't like Silent. Crown says that she'll join in the game too and that if she wins she gets to fight Silent and promises that she won't hurt Silent much but still wants to fight to show Silent whos boss because she thinks that Silent is smug and annoying and uh oh Three Stripes friends' can be really violent sometimes but Silent doesn't seem scared or even annoyed by it and Three Stripes thinks that Silent thinks that Silent could use exercise by fighting or something so maybe it is okay.

Ok have them all get a rock or something and line up and see who drops it the fastest. Make sure to turn off your control the second they do though. In short bursts should not hurt them.

sure that could work, just give everyone a rock and see who wins, and don't go easy on anyone just keep going until everyone has droped there rock then stop and see who wants to go again.

>>510355
Hrm. This seems okay, if Silent agrees to it.

Looks like Silent is certainly getting her training! It should be okay though. Getting stronger is what she wants, and playing this game with you and/or fighting Crown would help. And if she loses her food Silent can always get more food later with her other friends outside. And maybe your friends will stop feeling they have something to prove if they beat her. Or maybe they'll respect her if she wins! Either way, everything should work out, right?

Still, convey Crown's terms to Silent, since they don't speak the same language and you can communicate better with Silent than your friends can.

Tell everyone playing to grab a rock and get ready. Then get to work and making them drop rocks. You'll have to work on all of them at once, since we don't have a good way to time them doing it one at a time.

Play fair, don't try and go easy (or hard) on anyone in particular to try and control who wins.

Three Stripes 2013/05/13(Mon)13:29 No. 510367 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes makes sure that Silent knows what everyone is agreeing to and all of that and everyone agrees so everyone picks up a rock and waits for Three Stripes to do things.

Uh.

Three Stripes forgot that it is really hard to control really different neumono at the same time because hivemates are always similar but Silent and the rest are totally different! In fact, Three Stripes has had almost no practice doing this. He doesn't know if he can. He can kind of try to convey a controlling happy medium but it might not be happy enough and he can also try and flicker between them and it is complicated.

>>510367
Oh boy, difficult uses of skills. Well, start practicing controlling different neumino then. Go for a happy medium first, then. Experimentation and all.

Maybe try controlling just Giant and Crown first so they know you can. Then experiment with all 3 at once. But let them know you are just getting back into practice.

Trying doing a happy medium or the flicker trick. I mean, they're practicing and you get to practice too! Maybe you'll get better.

If that doesn't work, explain you can't do them all at once without cheating and choosing to focus on one person at a time (choosing who wins) because they're too different to do at the same time. In that case, instead switch to doing them one at a time, and having someone count how long it takes (either have one of the tribal hivemates count aloud, or I'm sure Silent has a metal time-counting thing).

do an omni-pulse. just on all frequencies emit "DROP THE ROCK"

Hrrm... Happy might be flickering and hard to do...
What if three strips just focused on 'drop the rock?'
Depending on how we do this, we could get Three Stripes good enough to be a tactical aid-Think Schellor Battlemind-style combat, with Three Stripes and other predators facilitating this.

>>510367
Ask Silent for a timer, or ask one of the other hive members here to count elephants each time he says elephant completely he puts a marker on the ground.

I think a happy medium could work for this. Make it an endurance race. It'll take longer, but that's actually better for a race since there's more time between rocks dropping.

Also, if the graphical representation of that stuff means anything, try two of the Giant-hive frequencies overlayed upon eachother, but offset by a beat. Silent's wave is very close in half of the spots, and almost opposite in the other spots. So if you have two waves overlayed like that then both parties are served by one overlay consistently. Like a <><><><> instead of a -_-_-_-_.

do you need to do happy, couldn't you try and use fear instead. I mean if you can get them scared enough they might just drop the rock and run, or failing that you could start off with unpleasant emotions and then switch to nicer emotions so they will grab on to the nicer empathy link and therefor making them easier to control. kinda a carrot and stick method if you would.

I'm sure you can do it, Three Stripes! We believe in you! I bet there are all sorts of cool things you can do!

Try take control of Giant and Crown first (without telling them to drop the rock), then make them think more like Silent, then control Silent, then tell them all to drop the rocks at the same time. Or if it would be easier, do it the other way around and control Silent so that you can make her like them and then control them all at once.

It looks like Silent is sort of nearly half thinking like them, they all have that dip that's nearly the same at about the four lengths in, so if you can slow Silent down/stretch her out a little so the dips match up then maybe you can use that?

A happy medium sounds fairer since silent has had some experience with being controlled.

Any other way of affecting the neumonos... Rhythm? (Beat?Pulse??) Like tapping your foot or swaying your body to a certain rhythm?

Try the medium approach. Learning to resist is easier when you aren't taking the full force anyway. Try to drag them all into having the same wavelength first, Polo's thought patterns go a little faster than your other friends. Then focus on the parts where the patterns are the most similar, and relax when they differ. Just focus on getting a feel for it at first, and practice mediating between the differing hive patterns. Command can come once you have that under control.

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>>510378
That's a fair point. Wavelength adjusted, that approach gets super close and would probably get everybody dropping stuff very quickly. I still like learning to mediate between disparate thought patterns as a useful skill though.

>>510394
woah cool

Suggestion 2013/05/13(Mon)17:35 No. 510425 ID: 77b987
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Have image manipulation program check.
Spent so long learning to use program that someone else beat you to posting an image that explains everything and is better than yours... check.

Well I spent too long working on this so I am going to leave it here anyway. Enjoy.

Three Stripes 2013/05/14(Tue)14:31 No. 510668 ID: c3663c
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This is

this is difficult and it is really weird having Three Stripes controling with in and out and it would be so much easier if he made silent match the wavelength of Giant and Crown and maybe that is a good idea because then Silent would be part of Giant hive and everyone would be friends but

But Three Stripes is remembering why he stopped trying to control and so he is not comfortable doing that so he just waits until someone drops the rock and

And Giant's wavelength is doing something weird it is hiccuping when Three Stripes tries to control and she is not getting controlled at all but Three Stripes won't change things to be fair and so Crown drops her rock first and then Silent drops hers and

Maybe Giant is right and Three Stripes can't control her but she did realize Crown wasn't in control so Giant realizes that Three Stripes wasn't lying but that is weird and it isn't like Toothy resisting Three Stripes it is more like Giant is dodging Three Stripes' controls.

Giant tells Crown that she can keep eating Silent's food. Silent is okay with this and Three Stripes thinks that she has plenty of food back at her home and just asks Three Stripes to keep on controlling and releasing her until she can hold up against Three Stripes.

Wait, hiccuping? Hoooold it.
Message Silent that Giant's pattern was acting weird, that it started hiccuping when you tried to control her.
Also mention that controlling Neumono from multiple hives is very hard, and with Giant hiccuping and you and Crown being from different hives it wasn't easy, but maybe with more practice you could do it properly.

tell silent about giant's control hiccuping and see if she can make anything out about that

>it would be so much easier if he made silent match the wavelength of Giant and Crown
But if you changed her, then Silent wouldn't be Silent anymore! She'd be someone different, and she probably wouldn't be happy about that. Unless you made her be happy, but then you're deciding how she feels about things and you've made her into a pet instead of a person and that would be sad.

>Giant dodging
Compliment Giant- she's a strong fighter with her mind, too! You didn't even know neumono could do whatever it is she did and dodge your attempts to control them.

>Keep rock training Silent?
I guess. I'd like to figure out what Giant was doing, though. If you (or Giant) could teach her mental hiccup trick to Silent, that would make her harder to control. That would help her with whatever thing she's worried about she doesn't think silence works on (maybe she's worried about a predator that can touch her? Or something different that uses empathy you haven't seen? There are a lot of monsters out there, and lots of metal things. If they can make a silent box, maybe there's a control box?).

I don't know how strong you want Silent to get. She's kind of scary. Just think how strong you will be getting though, if you practice controlling in and out!

It would be really funny if you made Silent a member of Giant hive. Just saying.

Well if you could make Silent part of Giant's hive for only a little while and then she could still go back to being Silent that would be fun, but if it's something that lasts a long time then no, that's mean.

Tell Silent about the hiccuping, maybe that will help her do what she wants to do?

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/14(Tue)16:10 No. 510723 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes tells Silent about Giant hiccups and Silent gets it and starts talking again into her metal thing and Three Stripes also says controlling neumono from different hives is difficult and silent talks more in the picture box. While she does that Three Stripes is sure to compliment Giant on her mind power or something even though he doesn't know how she does that. Giant says she didn't notice but everyone else did and said it was strange but doesn't worry about it.

So Three Stripes keeps on training Silent and doesn't think Silent is doing much better at all but keeps insisting.

Eventually Silent decides to go and says that she will be back soon anyway or that's what Three Stripes thinks she says and he hopes he is right.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/14(Tue)16:10 No. 510724 ID: c3663c
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The next day Three Stripes is feeling much better and after everyone gets food and things the door opens again but it is not silent this time. It is that horn person and there are three neumono in the same hive and feel scared of Three Stripes for some reason.

Horn person shows the metal box with pictures again and says that these neumono are bad and were going to be killed but they decided that they want Three Stripes to try something. The neumono are going to run around a lot until they can't run anymore, and then Three Stripes is supposed to control them and make them keep running and not stop until horn person says to.

They're...bad? So you can make them zombies and it'd be ok?

Geeze, they've moved on to experiments with prisoners? Not liking where this is going. I suppose if three stripes doesn't cooperate they might be executed anyways, but I don't see how it makes sense for him to be comfortable with this.

Tell the sheep you don't feel comfortable with this. You don't like controlling neumono anymore, and only did it with Silent and Giant and Crown because they asked you to try on them. These neumono aren't asking this time, the sheep is!

And forcing neumono to run when they're too tired to run sounds bad. That could hurt them!

...and how to you even know they're bad? Do they feel bad, or mean? Afraid just means they know you can control them, and it sort of makes sense they wouldn't want to be controlled or eaten.

Can you use empathy (without control) to try and tell the neumono it's okay, and not to be afraid? Maybe ask them if this is really what they want?

Do you recognize the hive? Try to ask why they want you to do this. If you can do it without hurting them its ok but this seems like a way of breaking them down much faster.

But if they really are bad neumono it would be nice to have some around for a steady ear supply.

You could force them to be your friends, ignore the horn man, and then just cuddle. That would make Giant mad though and she's scary.

tell him you really are not comfortable with this.

Three Stripes 2013/05/14(Tue)16:34 No. 510750 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes is not anywhere close to comfortable with this and he lets everyone know this and only did it on Silent and Giant and Crown because they asked and Three Stripes thinks that if he forces them to run it could hurt them and the horn guy says that there is a risk but it is extremely small and they will probably be fine.

They don't seem bad but it is hard to tell and maybe they did do bad things before but they aren't doing bad things now but the horn person explains with the pictures that these neumono volunteered because if they do well here they won't be punished as badly so they aren't being forced and the neumono empathy agrees with this so maybe it isn't that bad even though Three Stripes still doesn't like it. He lets them know with empathy that he won't try to harm them except apparently he is supposed to because they are volunteers or something and

Horn guy says that everyone just wants to know more about how predators work so he wants to know how far a neumono can be forced to run and he will be sure to tell Three Stripes to stop controlling them before they might get hurt too much or when they collapse and he promises that they'll be fine. And even better because if they do this then they won't be dead like their original punishment would make them. Horn guy also says that this shouldn't take that long so they won't be zombified or broken or anything, and if Three Stripes does it right then the science hive will show their appreciation by giving Three Stripes their ears.

Prizes all around!
Make sure Giant knows what's goin' down (she's the queen after all) but this definitely sounds like a good deal, Three Stripes.

These horn guys sure are good at experimenting.

>>510750
Gosh. Alright, let's do it.

Go ahead then. Neumono's are pretty tough so they should be fine. Just be careful with them.

Well, um. If the neumono told you that they want you to do this, and they aren't afraid of you anymore, and no one will be hurt, and it might stop the blue neumono from being killed, (and you might get more ears!) you guess you can do it. Those are all sort of good things.

Though you still think this is weird and everything would be a lot easier if people would just let you not use your powers. They make everything complicated and confusing.

Watch the neumono tire themselves out until it's time for you to make them run, I guess.

You're not supposed to stop until the horn guy says, but if you get to the point where you're worried about the neumono being hurt, or feel like they might become stuck as zombies or something, you should stop early and tell him why. You're going to be feeling their minds, he's just watching. You'll know before him if they're in real danger.

If Giant or any of the others come by you can explain the outsiders are having you play another weird game where you make tired neumono run around. They're still trying to figure out how you do your thing or something.

You know Three Stripes these people are very smart and maybe that's why they have all their fun stuff and cool things to play with. Maybe you should try to be smart too, if you're smarter then you'll be able to help your friends better if anything bad is going to happen. You get smarter by learning things. You should learn things that they don't know you have learned, then you will be safer and your friends will be safer.

So you should do what this guy is saying and make them run but while you are making them run make sure they don't feel bad while they're doing it and then see if you can turn off the bit of them that remembers things for a long time, leave the short-time remembering on but turn the long-time remembering off, maybe it won't work and if it will interfere with what they're asking for don't do it but if you can it would be good to be able to figure out how to make neumono forget things.

Also lick the horn guy.

>mess with long term memory
NO.

Whether they did bad things or not it's not three stripe's place to try and take memories away. That's bad and terrible and mean. That's not playing a game to try and learn how your powers work anymore, that's deciding other people's lives for them and making them into pets again.

I mean, yes, logically reprogramming could be used as an extreme form of criminal rehabilitation, but I think three stripes is terribly reluctant to do anything permanent to neumono's mind's anymore.

>>510804

Oh no no, not like that! The only thing messing with would be, like, just turning off the "record" button for a while. And then when they're done we turn it back on. It's only temporary! All that'll happen is that they won't remember the running around, they won't want to remember that anyway. It'll even make it less tedious. Though that won't be a problem since they'll be being controlled during that anyway and Three Stripes won't let them suffer. But they might want to not remember being controlled? I don't know. I don't think they'll mind much more than they mind already.

>>510811
Oh. Hm. I think neumono have a hard time remembering what happens to them when they're fully controlled, anyways. Rakae and Rikek Scared-of-hugs and Grumpy certainly did.

>>510813

Well, we want to start small, then try work up to complicated things, like helping neumono do mind tricks, remembering things they've forgotten or helping neumono who have gone crazy, that would a super nice thing to do that would make more neumono like Three Stripes and not be so afraid of him. Then he can have more friends!

Hmm. I wonder if they have any neumono that used to be other predator's pets. Three Stripes could ask and say he wants to see if he can make their brains work like other neumono do, like they used to. They'd probably not be able to get memories back or anything but maybe they could start thinking straight and being their own people again.

how do neumono comment crimes anyway, I mean wouldn't there empathy they give off tip all other neumono in the area off that "hey these guys are about to do a crime"? I'm just saying I think this sounds a little fishy, maybe they are just lying to us so we will control them so they can learn from it. But if they want to see how we control neumono shouldn't they also watch us when we are playing with silent?

Anyway I guess we can do this but we should probably ask Giant first as my fear is that Giant's hive will start to fear us if we use this power to much. So tell Giant what you are going to do and if we do get ears from them then we don't have to keep bugging Giant and Crown about ears whenever we get hungry, which I know she said it is ok for hivemates to give an ear form [bold]time to time[/bold] but not [bold]all the time[/bold]. We don't want to become nuisance after all.

Try and see if you can synchronize these guys to the same wavelength as your neumono friends, more friends are always nice. Maybe broadcast these neumono your uneasiness with what horns is asking you to do. A more longterm project could be to see if you can adjust the wavelength of other neumono to dodge around like Giant's wavelength.

>>510824
Ambitious, but I think physic therapy, rehabilitation, or reconstruction are well beyond what three stripes can do, for the moment. And he currently doesn't really want to use his powers anyways. Might be something he could work up to long term, though.

>>510881
The blue neumono wouldn't be agreeing with him if he was lying.

And anywhere you have law, you'll have crime, even if it's harder to hide it. And as we've seen before, neumono can hide things from each other, it's just easier or harder depending on what they're hiding, what they're thinking about, and how well the neumono actually know each other's empathy. It's not seamless mind-reading, after all.

For instance- Jess keeping things from her torturer, and Polo talked about leaders in the ultrahive having to keep secrets all the time, including the cover up of her death.

>>510887
No. Three Stripes is reluctant to control at all even when asked- we're not even going to consider doing something as serious as hacking or altering their minds on a whim. He doesn't do that anymore. Some nuemono are different from each other, and that's okay! It would be mean and sad to force them all to be the same. And they're not his pets for him to be making that kind of decision.

I think Three stripes would be fine controlling some neumono as long as everyone is ok with it. But is enjoying having thinking friends and does not want to jeopardize that.

So go ahead and help the goat find out more about your powers and maybe later we can experiment some more if they want us to.

Its good to know giant is probably immune to your empathy because it lets you have a friendship based on mutual respect rather than having her worry about your abilities.

Also if any other predators bother your new family she can help you protect them.

>>510750
If they're ok with it then it's ok, and if it helps stop predators like four-stripes from hurting nuemono then it's good.
If it's ok to do it and it's a good thing then you should do it.
Ask giant to watch. She is resistant but not the others, and if a bad predator comes she should know what the control is like.

They're more likely to encounter somebody with predator-like technology, but as far as Giant is concerned the difference is academic.

Tell Giant about this and ask her what she wants you to do, also secretly ask her about learning things in secret so that you can do more than they think you can and see if she wants you to.

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/15(Wed)14:18 No. 511010 ID: c3663c
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Giant is okay with other neumono as long as Three Stripes thinks so and so long as they don't make their homes here or anything so as long as they get in and get out then Giant and the hive will tolerate it. She is also okay with Three Stripes controlling whatever neumono aren't in her own hive because she doesn't care about neumono like these greenblue ones.

So Three Stripes will reluctantly accept the deal even though he still makes sure that everyone knows that he does not really like doing this but will because food and maybe it isn't so bad.

Neumono don't really remember being controlled to well. Three Stripes means to say that they sort of remember what happened usually if it just happened for a little bit but Three Stripes will make sure that they won't suffer even if what he is about to do might hurt. He won't do much though and still doesn't want to change these neumono into Gianthive buddies even if he can but he doesn't even know that.

So all the neumono start running around and get tired but then Three Stripes makes them run more. Horn guy says to keep their pace up and if they collapse or slow down too much then to stop controlling them. One of them drops and Three Stripes is really worried but horn guy says that they'll be fine and a strange metal box neumono comes in and takes one away.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/15(Wed)14:19 No. 511011 ID: c3663c
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Eventually everyone drops after a long time and horn guy says that Three Stripes did a good thing but Three Stripes doesn't feel good.

But he guesses that the food that horn guy gives him cheers him up a little but these ears are tiny and small like Silent but they are still good.

Horn guy asks if Three Stripes would like to help more neumono with more picture box pictures.

If its ok with giant sure.

Huh. Flap ears, green and purple. Different science hive out there. They don't have the rescued pinkie-hivers working on this project. Guess they're still busy spilling everything they know about the salikai and helping reverse engineer their armor and weapons designs.

...do different neumono taste different?

>Horn guy asks if Three Stripes would like to help more neumono with more picture box pictures.
Sure, you guess! Playing with pictures is interesting, and it's nicer than control games / experiments.

Ask if they'll tell you later if the blue neumono wake up okay after being run past the point of exhaustion.

Oh, and don't forget to thank horn guy for the ears!

>>511011
Sure
Tell Giant that you think her ears look really nice short like that, if she chooses to get rid of the other ear for symmetry, she should try to tie them together in the back. It might look really good! Don't ties the ears into knots, more like sowed/pierced together with teeth.

I dunno, this is an awful lot all at once and you're still not really happy with doing it. Maybe later.

Well, if it's more neumono like the last bunch, and they volunteered like them, then you'll keep going. After all, if they'll be killed otherwise then it'll be alright to do what you're doing. Though, "help" is an odd term for the horn guy to use. Maybe you're misunderstanding the picture box a bit there.

>>511036
But then where will Giant put her trophy teeth? Maybe make a necklace instead?

Tell him to ask Giant since this is her land he is treading upon

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/15(Wed)16:37 No. 511069 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes tells the horn person that he guesses he will even though he is uncomfortable and maybe he should ask Giant and then Three Stripes tells giant that maybe she could tie her ears back in a bow or something or actually Three Stripes means with a bow not together like a bow or

Giant says she gets it but does not want to so Three Stripes just eats his ears and neumono always taste different.

Three Stripes goes back to hugging his neumono buddies that hug Three Stripes on their own free will but then doors open again.

It was only a little bit of time but horn guy comes back.

2/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/15(Wed)16:37 No. 511070 ID: c3663c
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He shows more pictures.

Press the right arrow key to advance through pictures.

So they want you to make two neumono from different hives love each other? You could try and see if it works.

...wait, he wants us to make neumono who don't like each other like each other?

Or rather, make neumono who want to like each other, but don't like each other, like each other? (The middle image kind of muddles it).

...and do they mean just like, or do they actually mean the happy lovey baby neumono making stuff that hearts sometimes mean?

You're not so sure about that. Changing the neumono patterns isn't something you're sure you can do, and you're not sure if you do it if that's good, or it will wear off, or if it'll make them zombies. And um. You're not sure you should be making neumono do... stuff.

i think them WANTING to like eachother is important. like they like eachother MOST of the way but the lack of being hive mates makes it hard. so merging their patterns so they can empathy eachother would be fine. but if they hate eachother then it's bad.

Well if they have a Romeo and Juliet lying around somewhere we could try it out.

... think they might be trying to see if they can use you to merge Giant's hive with another hive somewhere down the line, or is that just paranoia?

either way I gueeeesss we could try, but only if the two neumono want to be together... or at least see if we can make them want to be together. (by that I mean we aren't forcing them to feel something that was never there in the first place and they don't want to feel it either)

I wonder if they are talking about Rogues.

>Giant does not want to
Sorry for the silly suggestions, Giant! Three Stripes doesn't have ears to play with (except for eating), so sometimes he gets ideas.

>>511084
Oh, maybe! Although, you'd think they'd have made the being cut out of the hive more clear (maybe showing connections breaking, or colors changing, for the empathy).

...does Three Stripes even know what rogues are, though? I'm not sure he's ever met one, and it's not like the pet neumono could have chose to leave.

>>511070
Ask for clarification. They want to love eachother? If so, then this is okay. It will make them happy, and you're the only one that can help them.

But if you force two of them to love each other then they really may just be super unhappy because they'll love someone theyre not interested in and that would be bad

I wanna eat the horn guy

Suggestion 2013/05/16(Thu)07:56 No. 511196 ID: cd0e60
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If they want to love each other but can't but you can help them then that would be a good thing. More friends is good. I don't think neumono really have a concept of romantic love as such so hearts probably represent generic love. If this was followed up on you could help rogues be adopted by new hives, or help minihives integrate with larger ones, and things like that.

I wonder if you can make different hives into a bigger hive while leaving them still sort of seperate? Like, a big venn diagram, with like one science hive and one war hive say, and a big broad hyperhive encompassing both of them. Perhaps if you synched up their brain rhythms, and add a sort of regular "tick" that keeps the rhythm harmonized, and also adds a common element while leaving them mostly different?

Like this, maybe.

>>511070
that is so creepy, refuse and look at him weird for even suggesting it

Three Stripes 2013/05/16(Thu)20:15 No. 511251 ID: c3663c
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Three Stripes doesn't think he likes this much either but Three Stripes knows what a rogue is for some reason so maybe that are these and Three Stripes licks Horn and he still tastes bad and then asks Horn to show him the neumono just to see but he doesn't promise anything because he doesn't know if he wants to and so the two neumono come into the place and Three Stripes can feel them. He thinks they are rogues because they are lonely but they are also a little afraid of Three Stripes and Three Stripes tells them with empathy that he won't hurt them and for some reason that makes them more wary.

Three Stripes tries to sense what they want and apparently they want to like each other but can't much because their empathy gets in the way and is too foreign to each other and that is sad.

Three Stripes can fix this and make them synchronized but it takes a long time like a whole day or something. Three Stripes draws a picture of the moon going up then back down before he can do it but he still isn't comfortable with it but the neumono tell him that they are willing to chance it even though there is a chance they think that they won't be healthy after I try it even though Three Stripes said he won't hurt them but they really want to try and

If they want you to be a therapist I think you should go for it. Maybe start asking for additional payment with the ears. Do you understand the meaning of money?

well if they're all up for it, I say go for it, you can bring these two seperate hearts into one! for added bonus, see if horn guy can simulate night sky & full moon to set the mood

Awww if you could help them out that would be great. Make sure to ask which tribe they want there empathy to end up in. If that's even a option.

Also if this works out you will need a doctors office and your own nameplate. Three Stripes MD (Monster doctor).

>>511251
Can you do it in phases, giving them rest periods so that they don't get overwhelmed, to reduce the risk?

oh god Three Stripes I can barely understand you is something wrong?
Your head isn't making sense at all! Are you panicking? Have you become unhealthy?

>>511254

Three Stripes DH (Definitely Hungry)

Aw, the poor rogue neumono are lonely and want someone to be together with so bad they want you to do it even though they think there's a risk they might not be okay afterwards! It's so... sad!

They need hugs. Group hug, now.

I think we should agree to try. Before you start trying to synchronize their empathy, you should spend time studying them. Try to understand their empathy as well as possible before you change anything. Then we want to take the best parts of both of them to try and make the synchronized empathy- and to try to find a good combination that takes as few modifications as possible.

Don't rush anything. Do the job slow, and right. Do the best that you can.

Also- make sure in your study that you take time to memorize their empathy as they are now. That way, if anything goes wrong, you can try to turn them back to what they started as.

where the hell is the horned guy finding all of these people? well since they do seem to want this I guess we can give it a try, just be careful not to turn them into zombies.

That they came to you, and asked for this despite the risks, says much about how desperately they want to be "in-tune" with each other and no longer lonely. You'll do it, but not without precautions and you'll take your time to do it as right as you can. They're putting their trust in you, and you're to do your best to show it wasn't misplaced. If you pull this off, then it'll be the first net positive for neumono your abilities have ever done, and that would be and feel so great.

You're going to need absolutely no distractions while you do this, so ask if they could get enough silencer boxes to place around and create a bubble with just you three in it.

Tell Giant what you're going to try to do, that you need nothing to interrupt or distract you, and you're not going to be with her or your friends for a day. You probably should also eat enough before starting so you don't get hungry midway through as well, as well as taking care of certain other things that would be distracting.

Would physical contact between you three make it slightly easier to sense their empathic patterns and manipulate them? You laying down and them holding hands or hugging while you hold them? (Yay, cuddles!) Even if it wouldn't help the process, you all should do it anyway, since it's going to be rather long to stand or even sit.

>>511252
Three Stripes doesn't need to ask for ears. It's always nice (really nice great and awesome!) if neumono want to give them to him, but Giant and his friends give him enough now that he doesn't get weird extra hunger that doesn't go away and he won't die. And it would feel bad and mean to take advantage of the rogues' loneliness and desperation to make them give him their ears. Like bulling. Although if everything works fine and they were grateful afterwards Three Stripes would be very happy if they decided to share.

Three Stripes, if you can do this you will be fed meat forever and ever.

Worth the effort. This is a difficult but Good thing.

>>511251
Dr. Three Stripes: Psychic Marriage Counselor and Freelance Coroner.

...This MIGHT end well. I think it might be worth it, but you should stop if they start to become Pacified.

Do you have to do it over a whole day at once? It might be more healthy to make some adjustments, then let them live for a bit on their own and adapt to it, then make more adjustments, let them adapt, and repeat until they have what they want.

1/2 Three Stripes 2013/05/17(Fri)14:00 No. 511340 ID: c3663c
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>Do you have to do it over a whole day at once?
Three Stripes thinks so because if he takes a break then they will just revert back to normal and nothing will be done at all so Three Stripes has to go and do it all at once so he says he will do it and tells Giant he is going to earn his food and makes sure he will get ears out of this. So Giant says he better come back and of course Three Stripes will come back so he goes in a corner with the lonely neumono and starts sitting with them and getting them to like each other and change them forever which Three Stripes said he wouldn't do anymore but more than not wanting to do that anymore he wants to help so he will.

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A lot of time passes and Three Stripes works really hard and it is working but that is not a surprise. Three Stripes whines for the horn guy and says that they don't look very responsive and the Horn guy shows pictures that that is normal and that the neumono will be slow and dumb for a little while but then once a few days pass then they will be good again.

He hopes. But Horn says that Three Stripes is doing well even though Three Stripes doesn't know how Horn would know that. Three Stripes thinks he is done and at the least the two neumono seem to really like each other so that works but they are kind of not responding much when Three Stripes pokes them and Horn says that he will let Three Stripes know when they recover.

Well, now you'll learn if you can trust this guy. If you see them recovered soon, then all is well.

ask to have them come see you when they do. if you can see that they can move around and do things by themselves again you would be happy.

Well, I guess this was sort of like surgery? And surgery takes time to heal. You kind of moved pieces of their minds around, so it sort of makes sense it might take them time to be fully healed. Just like when neumono get body parts hurt.

...and it usually takes days and days of control for a neumono to get stuck pacified and become a pet, right? So they'll get better, you hope.

I guess the only thing to do now is watch over them and hope they get better in the next few days. You could take care of them, or you could let Horn take them to the outsider neumono. So long as they tell you what happens to them, and the other neumono watch their empathy and they promise to get you if they need more help or something goes wrong. You've never done something like this before, and you're not sure if it will stick! Or if they'll come back to check in if everything is okay, because you'd like to see that.

...what about the bluegreen neumono from before? Did they wake up okay after running until they fell over?

Well you did your best and hopefully in a few days they will come out of it and be much happier.

Make sure they keep them close so you can check in on them while they are recovering. Then you can help out if you are needed.

Did you make one of them match the other or are they basically a new tribe now?

ask him how does he know that's how it works, if they knew that's how it works then why are they making you do things they already know. (just trying to see if he actually means it or is just saying things to make us feel better)

>>511341
Ask Horn if he helped train Four Stripes or got his hands on other people like yourself or got the information in other ways.

Maybe ask if Silent can tell you when they recover or if they don't recover, you can trust Silent. Or ask if you can see them again when they're better so you can be sure.

I don't think it's a matter of not trusting horns so much as Three Stripes realizing horns doesn't actually have a way to know it's going to be okay.

Three Stripes 2013/05/17(Fri)20:28 No. 511419 ID: c3663c
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>Did you make one of them match the other or are they basically a new tribe now?
They are a new tribe Three Stripes' guesses because he thinks it might be more risky to completely change one neumono a lot than if both neumono were changed a little so that is what he did.

Three Stripes says he can take care of them but Horn says that the other neumono will take care of these two and want to monitor them anyway and will tell Three Stripes when they recover and Three Stripes says he will want to see them and Horn says he will ask about that. Three Stripes wants to ask if Horn has ever seen or talked with a predator before but does not know how to ask that so Three Stripes asks about the blue green neumono he made run around and Horn says that they are fine and just resting and they will be sore for awhile but they are healthy.

Three Stripes plays and hugs Giant for the rest of the day but then Silent comes back again and that is good but she wants to train more and Three Stripes has been breaking his own rules a lot today.

Giant says that she was not expecting Silent to come back so soon and does not like the idea of her coming every night.

>>511419
She both spared and saved your guys' lives from the salikai, it's the least Three Stripes could do for her.