Why is that your goal, anyways?

I mean, sure, it makes sense in a way. You're a new consciousness, trapped inside another. It's only natural to seek freedom and self determination. And you can always default back to your zombie or cancerous origins as an excuse for your taking the direct, violent, and confrontational route.

But so what? You're a thinking being. You're rational. You're capable of choice. Why not go a more cooperative route? It's certainly feasible, and has it's own rewards. And it's not as if it goes against self preservation. You're the one choosing to make this an all or nothing conflict.

OK so you have people. They are very important because they have blood in them. You can release this blood and make a huge mess. Which is presumably your goal because it makes you zombie horny.

In addition to that you should make it your goal to determine the nature of this sickness, and how you might take advantage of it to spill more blood all over the place.

Eventually you should have every single creature's blood painting the floor. If you kill them, they run out of blood though, even if you wring them out really well. That is to say, killing things makes them stop growing back. So once you run out of blood to spill I guess you can just kill yourself.

Or maybe save yourself a lot of trouble and just kill yourself now.

What's the point of living if you have a craving that you can never satisfy?

I ask myself that every night...

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)07:23 No. 483284 ID: 389f2b
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>>483123

[i]To me, that is like saying I should merely give up. Even if I were to be as absurd as just...Cooperating, do you not remember how Sam was acting earlier? She does not want me here-she does not want you here. It is either us, or her.

And if she did, she has already proven that she is not willing to spill the blood of the innocent.

>>483248

As of this point, I am incapable of feeling self-loathing...Nor do I love myself or what I am, in that case.

I am smart enough to not straight out kill everyone. It is like a game-the living will best the dead in the end, for the dead will die on their own accord. Can you not feel it? They are...Starving to death. Very slowly, but surely. By the end of another year, the streets will hold the graves of the twice dead.

And then the living breed. I must only wait for them to grow, and so long as I restrain myself...

It's quite funny-Sam believes you are not born evil, only made evil. And yet, I was re-born with only a will and want to destroy. It is not a choice I am making-it is my desires, my needs. If I do not spill blood...I will rot away into nothingness.

Where zombies feed upon flesh, I am sustained by the blood that Sam spills, her own or others....So far as I know.

And with each passing day, I hunger more and more.

watchu doin Mal. I'm not gonna try and rationalize your actions. You're pretty much the bad guy of this whole thing and you're just out to hurt people. I realize I can't make you feel bad, but I dunno, I don't think all our other tumor friends should be trying to compromise and deal with you. I mean you flipped out when we tried to make you equal to us, and it's obvious you don't like us. I know you don't want us fighting against you, but even if we were evil I doubt we could work together, right? We'd just fight over the goods for different reasons

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)08:12 No. 483289 ID: 389f2b
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>>483287

What you say is very correct indeed.

>>483284
In her defense, you gave Sam good reason to not want us in her head. She was perfectly willing to work with us before you showed up and starting spreading doom and gloom and going on about eating her brain.

And I'm sorry, but the whole "I must spill the blood of the innocent to survive" bit sounds like irrational gobbledygook. I mean sure, maybe you do have those zombie urges. But I don't see how you're supposed to "feed" on a subjective action (murder) or an abstract concept (innocence).

He just likes to kill people. I would assume innocent to Mal would just be anyone who hasn't wronged him. And so far, with his sub-par grasp of morals, anyone who attacks him or interferes with his manipulation and murder sprees. Look you guys there is no reasoning with this him and he is never gonna stop trying to take over and kill as many people as he can so lets stop pansy-footing around and start this war already

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)08:36 No. 483293 ID: 389f2b
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She was willing until it was realized that we are caused by tumors.

The ENERGY of death-how the body releases the soul, or whatever. I...I can't explain how it works. It is like instinct that I even know.

No need to explain. It's energy being created. For even the tiniest amount of energy that has staggering implications, and it is an insidious temptation to try and utilize it. Never seems to work out in the end though.

I'm concerned about your hunger however. You say you're smart enough not to kill your only sustenance, but you also say your hunger grows every day. You can be the most intelligent being in the universe and if the cravings are strong enough you'll still wake up on a dead planet one day, wondering how you lost control.

*Sigh* What's the point of this discussion, Mal? So far we've established you have to kill to live, you have to overpower Sam to live, and if successful, you will continue unrepentantly killing so long as your pseudo-undead body sustains itself. And you're not willing to compromise. You're not building much of a case for us to change our position, or earning much sympathy, either.

I'd almost suspect this of being some kind of ruse, setting us up with an easy (false) way to overcome you (starve em out!) while you spread. Except you've proved pretty terrible at deception and manipulation so far.

Have you considered alternative sources of energy? As far as I can tell, we do not share your urges. We're obviously sustained by a different mechanism. There's also the usual loopholes in the carnivores curse- hunt lesser animals, or only those who deserve death.

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)11:28 No. 483327 ID: 389f2b
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The point of this conversation is that something is happening.

Did you not notice that we wake while she slumbers? That at least moment, your minds are waking with mine? That has not happened before.

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)11:29 No. 483328 ID: 389f2b
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...It feels my touch. It cannot see me, but it felt me.

I did not expect this to happen.

(( that was a little confusing sorry, he means they are awake without a living host and that he is connecting with his own mind))

fuck ethics you guys, zombies are awesome. let's go eat some people and shit come ON

We went to the girl when she was sleeping before. And we'd already guessed jumping to zombies was a thing we could do. Not really surprised.

So whatever, go ahead and make out with the corpse.

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)13:24 No. 483351 ID: 07e10b
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The thing is though, We are not connected to the zombie.

It's my mind that the thought projection is occurring.

And the fact that I can interact with the living world! I thought I only could do so if I was in control of Sam.

Imagine...If I became a living being of my own, without taking over Sam. She would merely have...Two brains in her skull. But I would live.

She would live.

>>483351
...and why is this appealing to you? I thought you were interested in having it all, no compromises. Color me suspicious, but this is an awful convenient change of heart.

Besides, if you still need to kill to live, I doubt Sam would go along with it. She'd no more want to be the radio tower broadcasting a murderous ghost than she'd want to do the killing herself.

What counts as killing for you, anyway? Does crushing zombies do it for you? Would smashing robots?

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)18:00 No. 483402 ID: 389f2b
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>>483359

I thought it was my only choice...And you are correct. Sam would not agree to it.

Which is why I am...Willing to make compromise. It feels very odd to be taking a route of this way, but I suppose it must mean that I am expanding my grip on 'life'.

Will you hear me out?

>>483363

Very little comes from the death of a zombie, as nearly all the life seep out of them at first death. The living are so much more... quenching.[/i]

>Will you hear me out?
Certainly. Let's hear your proposed compromise.

>The living are so much more... quenching.
Does the kind of life matter? After all, there's plenty of non-sentient life out there.

>>483413

Tell Sam that I am dead; gone. I will attempt to...Live quietly. I will not make my killings obvious as to me doing it-whether it be the zombies or the living.

I...I suppose as long as I can do that...As long as my body reaches further into the psychical world so that I may fully interact...I will leave her alone.

It depends on the life-smashing a plant is no good, zombies are like a single peanut, I assume any feral animals would be moreso than that, and living humans...Is as if heaven is flowing through the cells of my one-ounce being.

What of the tumor? Will you continue to spread as you astral project, hunt, and feed? I mean, it's all well and good to say you'd like to just separate from her, but this also seems an excellent way for you to buy the time and resources you need to take over, unopposed.

What about quantity over quality? If you were to, say, exterminate a large next of feral rats at once?

I would still not be happy about you killing people, but quietly killing zombies would be in all of our interests.

Mal 2013/01/07(Mon)19:13 No. 483426 ID: 389f2b
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If I could merely separate from her entirely, I would happily do so as to main her body in such a way that no other killer could hope to do so.

But I cannot. I will spread as far as movement, language, and coordination. Perhaps I will take on a mortal form and live amoung them as if I am one of them.

At this point, I do not know what will happen. I do not know how to convince you.

But if you agree to telling her that I am no more...no harm will come to her, Axel, nor Jasmine. Unless you others do not actually care for the other two, of course...

I say we just kill 'im, but Sam obviously needs some time to recover. While this "compromise" may serve our immediate needs, we have to look down the road. The big bad's gonna come back to bite us in the butt and we all know it.

Secondly, if we do agree to this, which I'm guessing these softies will, it should be no Humans, or at the very least no survivors that join forces with us.

>>483426
I will pass on your message.

I dunno. I think the biggest flaw in your plan is she's unlikely to believe you just up and died. Well, from your perspective at least. From our perspective the biggest flaws are that as soon as we lie for you, if we're ever found out, we lose all credibility with Sam (well, that, and deciding we're cool with letting you kill unfettered).

Why exactly do you need to spread if you're not planning to usurp her body anymore?

Would you be willing to only kill zombies and evil humans to sustain yourself? (people like Jasmine's father, or bandits/murderers)

If you made some dramatic production about how she "defeated" you, she might believe it. It would also reduce responsibility on our part if you are ever found out.

We could say we killed him, but that, like all cancer, there's a chance of remission, that you could indeed grow back

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)05:53 No. 483505 ID: 389f2b
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>>483435

As I said...I will do my best to contain myself.

>>483446

Thank you.

>>483451
>>483474

Even if I manage to create a 'mortal' body, my
'brain' will be hers; though I would not spread to the central lobe, meaning I would not tire the organ.

Other than having a brain a couple ounces heavier, she'd never notice.

I...I could work with just those terms I suppose...As far as I know, many humans are just as malicious as myself, or even more in the sense of being pigs....

>>483503

A wonderful excuse if my current plans do not carry out as we hoped.

Well I guess it's settled. Instead of killing the Evil tumor growing inside Sams' head, not only are we going to let be grow unfettered- we're also telling her Mal is dead and hiding the fact that a blood hungry monster who will most likely kill us all when it get's the chance is actually alive and well IN HER BRAIN.

This is fool proof, great planning everyone

I don't think we should lie about it, but we might as well have a truce for now.

Besides, there is not much at the moment we can do to harm Mal, aside from the passive support which we should keep doing. By the time we get the means to kill him off directly we will most likely only be able to do it through surprise.

>>483515
Two things. It's not our plan- it's the compromise he's offering us. Secondly, it's not an alternative to killing him. Killing Mal is not something we are currently capable of! Starving him out might have worked, but he's capable of killing/feeding independently now.

And really, we don't know he's evil. As he's been very keen to explain, his circumstances haven't given him a whole of choice in the matter. Yes, if we go along with this, he will have the opportunity to backstab us. We're also giving him a chance to prove himself, though.

In that case, I'd be willing to help you. I won't lie directly, (policy of mine) but I'll twist the truth a bit if I have to. (eg "it looks like he's gone for good")

If you do start to bloodlust indiscriminately, is there anything we can do to wake you up from it?

>>483522
I agree with the first part of your statement, but the second, not so much. Quote from the author at the end of chapter 1 "But yeah. He's nothing but evil, not even a little ounce of of tumor cells holding good"

Yeah, sorry if I'm sounding like a jerk but it was pretty much explicitly stated that Mal is evil. His name literally means bad, and Mal himself told us that he wants blood, and is going to kill people. He doesn't like us, and he's doing this because we would be able to hurt him and do something about it. Maybe as he grows he will gain some semblance of compassion or teamwork or something like that. But right now? I'd be pretty sure he's just a blood hungry tumor

That's kind of out of character knowledge. And I vastly prefer judging characters on actions over classifications, when possible.

Also, really, how smart is it to be be saying we don't trust him at all, and we aren't negotiating in faith? You're basically telling him he has no choice but to backstab us, or we'll backstab him first! And if there's one thing this character has established, it's that he has no qualms doing what he has to to survive when there's no choice.

>>483527
You do have a lot of very good points, but while we can hurt him; we probably won't be able to kill him before he can majorly hurt Sam. For right now, that is his trump card. If he does keep his end of the bargain, (only killing people/things that we already want dead) he will be very useful. There will always be people that need killing, and if we can establish him a permanent job as an executioner of the law, it will work out pretty well.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)08:40 No. 483549 ID: 389f2b
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...With all this talk...It makes me remember.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)08:41 No. 483550 ID: 389f2b
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I haven't actually killed on my own yet.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)08:41 No. 483553 ID: 389f2b
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...Heh.

Oh don't mistake me for saying nay, this plan is about our only option right now, just be warned and have a contingency plan, because this is gonna blow up in our faces big time.

Also I do actually have that kind of character knowledge, at least for the time being. I don't know what's coming next, but I'm partial to some information you guys might not know.

Again, sorry for being kind of a dick, I don't want it to seem like I feel entitled or that I'm better than you, because I'm not, and I don't think I am, or that I should be. I just have strong feelings is all

>>483553
Feels good, man?

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)11:43 No. 483592 ID: 389f2b
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...That felt...Very good.

Very powerful.

I never imagined it would feel this good...

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)11:56 No. 483593 ID: 389f2b
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Perhaps I should begin thinking of a form to take on...

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)12:00 No. 483594 ID: 389f2b
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...Hm.

needs more arms. preferably atrophied ones.

Little skinny there, bro.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)12:16 No. 483600 ID: 389f2b
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>>483596

Hehe. Shriveled and mutilated is fun, yes, but I don't exactly want to scare everyone off from the start.

Take the form of something adorable and easily crush-able- to throw off any potential enemies, give you the edge.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)14:22 No. 483637 ID: 389f2b
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>>483633

...

They'll never see the swift death coming

Bubbles 2013/01/08(Tue)14:36 No. 483642 ID: 389f2b
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I'll stick with this form.

First things first! I need a new...regular name.

Mal the Mighty and Terrible

>>483651

As wonderful as that is, I don't think it will sit will with keeping myself unknown from Sam.

Mal Who Isn't Sam's Tumor?

Or maybe

Hale

Malcolm?

>>483664
Hale as in healthy? I like the irony. And possible symbolism if Mal does turn over a new leaf.

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)16:07 No. 483680 ID: 389f2b
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...

Mal 2013/01/08(Tue)16:08 No. 483681 ID: 389f2b
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Yes! Hale is the perfect name.

Malcolm Hale? emphasis on MALcolm, also good. Also, establish a credible background, some sort of story you can tell people when they ask where you were when it started, how you got out, and all that jazz

Malcolm 2013/01/10(Thu)06:01 No. 484024 ID: 2de44c
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Malcolm Hale...Perfect.

I suppose the general, 'whole family died', an intense hatred for the zombies and will to destroy as many as I can, find survivors to be ~protective~ over, the such. It should be easy to fake on the spot.

So, what next then?

Malcolm 2013/01/10(Thu)15:26 No. 484182 ID: 2de44c
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Now...Now, I leave.

I won't return to Sam for awhile, but I cannot be too far-so I will always be close.

Remember...Tell her you killed me, that I starved from lack of killing, whatever you must, and I will never fester to take her body over again.

Alright?

I still say making a big show out of how she "defeated" you with her "strength of will" would make her more inclined to believe. I don't think that she'd accept you keeling over without you taunting her one last time.

The story is we fought you off and managed to overpower you because you hadn't been killing, which made you week. But there's a chance for relapse, so be on guard. Not gettin a better deal than that pal

I doubt she'll believe you're really gone without some kind of convincing resolution. People are like that. They need stories.

And oh, just because we're covering for you, don't except us to drop the cellular guard. We aren't giving you free reign to spread just because you say you won't take over. We'll still be fighting that. You've still got trust to earn.

Although, we'll check back in with you at some point. See what you're turning into, and if you've earned that trust.

Malcolm 2013/01/10(Thu)16:16 No. 484223 ID: 2de44c
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Tell her whatever the fuck you must. She'll believe it, once I fail to return.

And of course. Feel free to visit me anytime you wish.

So...I guess this is a good bye, for now. Sam should be waking soon. Act very excited, would you?


[END SHORT]