Overlord 2012/05/15(Tue)22:37 No. 412528 ID: 97486c
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You think you're done being kind to her...
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Fluffy's units move up as far as they can.
Your move.
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she's a mess. compliment her and she turns into a bubbly fangirl. say "what's a cute girl like you doing back here?" should inflict CONFUSION
and scan the new guy.

>>412528
Overlord dude, I have some bad news.

Scan the Monk.

>>412536

What about the monk? He's something special?

>>412571
He's new, which is worth investigating.

>>412571
Check the wiki.

Give her a hug!

"Really? This is the THIRD TIME you've broken into my house. If the demon world had policemen I would be calling them."
Shoot 'er.

this is nuts. knock them out and take her sword.

go for the monk first.

Surprise, Abel found someone expendable to send. Her orders are to retrieve the doctor but she's so much of an idiot he had to know he was sending her to create an incident that will give him an excuse for war.
You know, by making an incident like attacking you without justification and spinning that as you attacking her (which you sort of would do when you counterattack to defend yourself from unwarranted aggression). You need to disable Fluffy in such a way that she can't attack you and stops ordering her allies to do so as well, but which can't be used as an excuse for war.

We need ideas people, how do we get out of the GM setting us up with a bullshit, lose-lose situation like this?

Don't fight her. She's the fastest unit, she will reach you first. Don't defend yourself from her attacks, take the full blow. Keep your attention on the monk, be prepared to flee. Alternatively, surrender.

Do this only if you're really crazy, of course.

The monk is dangerous. I wish we had the Yandere girl with us. She could probably take him.

Overlord 2012/05/16(Wed)18:56 No. 412815 ID: 97486c
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Hmm.. Perhaps it is simply best if you run from this battle. Fluffy is a bit.. Stupid.

You have everyone retreat but find yourself challenged again.

Very well then... Seems she doesn't want to talk. Who will you send out?

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Placement Phase.
Unit Limit: 3
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>>412815
Just you, unarmed and informing her that you won't fight her. She won't know how to deal with someone that refuses to play by the rules she's used to.

>>412820
Yep. Though she'll probably think it's a trick. Take the risk.

Ourself and the Yandere. Just beat her down. She won't listen to anything we say, and she's crazy as hell.

just you. and say "i really don't want to fight a pretty girl" it WILL fuck with her head.

We definitely do want to get that sword from her... Hm...

New plan: try to challenge her to a 1-on-1, because she's still listening to the voices, and we'll convince her to use the sword on you.

Abel made a pretty big error when he-

Wait. He knew exactly what that sword was. I think he expects us to seize it. Does he know something about it we don't?

>>412843
We already told her using the sword against Overlord would backfire.

this is not a fight we want to have. we could end up killing one of able's men, that would be bad. my advice is to continue to disengage until we can get the rest of our troops and bring overwhelming numbers to bear, that way we can force them to surrender.

>>412854
It's Fluffy. It's safe to assume that she will use it anyway.

Overlord 2012/05/16(Wed)20:32 No. 412904 ID: 97486c
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>Fluffy: "Wait wait wait!"

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Forest and Golem are withdrawn.
Unit Limit is now 1
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>Fluffy: "You vs me overlord! Let's do this! Let's make it happen!"

??? Has she gone crazy? Will you humor her and fight her yourself?

yes. kick her ass.

Yeah, let's do it. We can get two free hits in, maybe three depending on how easily we can do the pushback. Our armor reduces the damage from her melee enough that we'll win. Also she's likely to miss, while we aren't.

>>412904
Also, if she takes our advice, she'll be trying to stay within arm's reach of you instead of attacking. I'm sure you can take advantage of this.

Kiss her you fool.

>>412904
One on one. Yeah that's the way.
Maybe during the fight you can ask Fluffy to explain what she wanted with the doctor? Maybe Fluffy wanted to stop research into curing the plague. Maybe she wants to spread the plague? I mean, one of her known associates is a Cancer Mage

shes an idiot, but shes not malevolent. we can also take her in a fight. lets humor the girl.

Overlord 2012/05/17(Thu)01:09 No. 413043 ID: 97486c
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Fluffy moves up and then goes into a defensive stance
Your move
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move over and shoot her.

BANG.

>>412922
That's a bit difficult to do since she doesn't have a mouth

Move over to your left by one space and shoot her.
Also, >>412924

Hey if she actually succeeds in closing the distance, can we use the throwing gloves to toss her back out of range? Because that would be hilarious.

>>413308
How far can we throw?
Because if the distance is worth it, yes.

Also, be prepared to possibly catch a thrown sword.

>>413308
Wait, could we make Fluffy "retreat" by using the Throwing Gloves to toss her outside the fighting area?

>>413513
I think she'd just challenge us again.

Hey, once we defeat her, we can enslave her instead of looting, right~ Since if we loot she diesss

>>413599
Fuck no. One, that's the entire idea. Two, enslaving her means we lose her stuff, including the sword containing HALF OF US. If she lives, we die halfway. She can go fuck herself.

>>413601
wow. did you even look at HTBAH? fluffy popped the ee out of the sword and has is as a necklace. sicne we give no stats it counts as regular clothes, which don't vanish on death.

Hm, if you subjugate her you can take her as part of the loot, though...

Hey, are hometown's changeable? Because if they aren't, then she has a "viable" respawn point here in the Demon Realm despite the fact that she can't respawn here.

We should subjugate her.

Subjugate: Remove mask and say, "Listen Fluffy, I know you want to be a hero, but Abel has deceived you. I am no villain. I can help you find where a real one is though, if you let me... a sinister Tinker. So sinister that even in my less proud days I was forced to seal her away for everyone's safety."

>>413657
Try this sort of thing without removing the mask.

Seriously we shouldn't rely on it so much--people will catch on.

>>413725
Fine, without mask first. But I doubt Fluffy will listen without it.

hell no subjugation. we are not ditching our advantage in hits for a CHANCE to make her listen to us.
we enslave her and then tell her to leave. the eye will then have a stranglehold on her because the enslave magics will make her WANT to become loyal to the overlord.

>>413731

Yes but you are forgetting something really important.

That is THE biggest dick move we have ever done to anyone, and Abel has one of his monks here to observe.

No, it's much simpler to just, toss her off our FLOATING CASTLE.

>>413734
>>413731
If she manages to fuck up with her spawn switching and wishy-washy Hero-Demon status, killing her might destroy the universe by breaking the respawn system and causing Game Over. At the same time we can't enslave because we'd lose our other eye and the God Slayer.

Basically, Subjugate is the only thing that won't possibly fuck us over.

>>413737
what? the eye is safe. it's not IN the sword. seriously you people don't read anything.

>>413743
All loot is lost if we enslave.

the eye is loot?

>>413792

Do you really want to risk finding out?

We kill her, get the choice to enslave or loot, we haven't killed her yet because shes too fucking pathetic to kill.

>>413158

Sure she does. You just have to lean over a bit.

Overlord 2012/05/19(Sat)04:31 No. 413854 ID: 97486c
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Easy enough..

You move a bit and fire at her dealing 25 dmg.
Fluffy...
Throws her sword at you..
What?

It hits and deals 29 dmg but there goes her primary means of attacking.
Fluffy's Atk drops to 20 and her acc drops by 5.

Now is a good a time as any to try and subjugate. However you doubt removing your mask has any effect on someone who can't see.

"Listen Fluffy, I know you want to be a hero, but Abel has deceived you. I am no villain. I can help you find where a real one is though, if you let me... a sinister Tinker. So sinister that even in my less proud days I was forced to seal her away for everyone's safety."

>"Shut up! Just shut up! You... You 'have' to be the evil one! All the things you did.. You can't just erase something like that because you lost your memory! What happens if you do remember!? What happens if you become evil again and I had just given up trying to stop you!? What kind of Hero would I be then!?"

>>413854
"One who believes even demons can be redeemed."

>>413855

Oh snap. We are totally saying this.

Fuckin' genius man.

fluffy. stop and look at yourself. you are a demon that became a hero. that's an amazing feat. but think, that's how you are too, a demon that was good for a while, no other heroes will accept you since they will think of you how you just thought of the overlord. and if heroes showed up in your village, they would of tried to murder every one of them, simply because they are demons. fluffy, please, be a real hero, not someone that kills everyone that simply has a CHANCE to be bad. be like killing all puppies because they have a chance to poop on your carpet.

>>413855
Hell yes

>>413860
Wrong thread



Also, I told you dog

I warned you about swords

>>413855
I like this.

If she still presses you, you can say something like:

I can't undo what's been done, I can only try to do better from now on. I doubt mere memories will change the path I've chosen, but, if by chance I do become evil, you're welcome to come after me then. For now... I'd really prefer it if you stopped trying to kill me for trying to do good.

>>413854
"I died Fluffy. I did not just lose my memories, I paid for my sins, I lost everything but my mother's golemized body, a loyal tinker, a hybrid, and this castle. I am, in fact, more closer described as the son of The Overlord than actually him. I just use the same body.

I am a golem made from chaos. I cannot die in a manner similar to other mortals. I lose my identity each time I die and am reborn in a different incarnation. I'd just come back Fluffy, who knows, maybe I'd be even worse than my first incarnation in my third! It's a wild card Fluffy. Don't play it. Because that's the only choice when killing me because I will exist until chaos and order cease to exist as well."

>>413855
So much this.

Overlord 2012/05/19(Sat)15:00 No. 414060 ID: 97486c
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"One who believes even demons can be redeemed."

>"!!!"

Fluffy trembles, her blank face makes it near impossible to tell what she's thinking or how she's feeling but you can tell you hit her where it hurts.

"You are a perfect example that even someone who's a demon can become a hero if they try hard enough. That's what I'm doing."

>"You're trying to be a Hero too?"

"In my own way. My older self was far to cruel to truly be heroic but I think I can achieve it. You've seen the good things I've done. Even the doctor I 'kidnapped' was only for good."

>".... Maybe.."

Hmm, that's probably the closest to a yes you've gotten from the girl.

"Why don't you join my team? You can help me do good and maybe even 'keep an eye on me' in case I try to do anything evil."

And I won't lose any possible items.

>".... Okay."

Overlord 2012/05/19(Sat)15:01 No. 414061 ID: 97486c
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Battle Over: Subjugation
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That's one problem dealt with.

Now for her two friends. The golem probably won't be a problem. The monk, though... hm. Bring Ninja and go up to him. See if he has anything to say.

the golem listens to her, so that may be two.

>>414063
ninja is on a mission.

>>414066
Ah, yes. Abel did abandon her, so she probably won't be much difference in negotiating/whatever with the monk. For all we know, he might have told everyone she was a traitor or dead.

I think we should send another tablet to Abel, asking him why he wants the Doctor back so badly.

print up a newspaper with the headline "abel attempts to stop plague doctor from finding cure plague"

>>414089

THE DAILY OVERLORD

GENIUS

>>414092
THIS IS THE BEST PLAN EVER.

Can you say "Press War?"

Next headline should be "Abel: Hero or MENACE?"

>>414117
The line is "Threat or Menace?"

Come on, you knew that.

Just sorta chuck the pamphlets through the portal--maybe with a huge fan on your side blowing them through.

Right, Golem should be fine to subjugate. Since her buddy is with us. Forest? We need to be careful. He is now Abel's representative. We simply explain ourselves to him, have the Doctor show forest how much progress he made(making sure he does not take him) and again, tell him that once the cure is done, the Doctor can return home with no worries. The cure is to help everyone and Forest seems a lot more reasonable than Abel.

>>414122
lol

We need to be clever about our propaganda. Mass manipulation can be an extremely effective form of warfare.

I want pictures! Pictures of Abelman.
ROSE WHERE IS MY COFFEE
Fluffy you're fired
Rose: Chief, the planitarium party
No wait, your hired

Just explain things to the monk and ask him to tell Abel the situation?

Spend some time with Golem. Admire her well-constructed build. Stare at her with your stony poker face and see if she reciprocates. Ask if there is anything she likes.

Keep Shana close by in case Forrest tries any treachery. She's strong enough to deter or damage him and isn't very item dependant.

Overlord 2012/05/19(Sat)20:51 No. 414161 ID: 97486c
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>Newspaper
>Newspaper
>NEWSPAPER

LATER. You don't even have the right kind of resources to do something like that!!
Maybe become a part of an existing newspaper but to actually create one... The effort and money would be rather large.

As you turn to discuss Abel with the Monk you suddenly find yourself disarms. Your weapons are thrown to the ground along with Rose, Emily, and Fluffy's weapons. You see Forest with the Doctor under his arm.

>"Well Fluffy it's nice to see where your loyalty lies. I'm afraid the Doctor will still be returning to Abel regardless."

You take a step to him but Forest holds up his hand.

>"Don't. I can easily kill you. Just let me go and no one is harmed."

"Why? Why take him? He's close to a cure. What does Abel have to gain?"

>"I don't know. Why he does things makes no sense to anyone but him. He's usually correct though. Now if you'll excuse me."

>>414161
Fluffy, get your golem to retrieve the doctor!

>>414161
We can re-equip ourselves instantly when entering combat, and we outnumber him significantly even if he's got levels on us. Do not let him escape without even trying- not when his departure may condemn hundreds of innocents to horrific deaths as plaguespreaders with no hope, and we are so close to a cure.

summon the butler. and/or shana.

BLOCK THE PORTAL

use that anti-portal device if it's fixed. set it to the courtyard trapping him in a loop.

>>414161
"You seem like a gentle man. Will you please listen to reason? We're trying to restore peoples' lives here. If we succeed we can create a place where plague victims, Cancer Mages, and other naturally virulent peoples can live in peace without being a danger to others."

>>414167
Also, kill us if you may, we'll just respawn, and the portal is disabled. It would be completely futile.

I suppose you might also try your hand at thievery, but I doubt your morals allow that, and you wouldn't be able to leave anyway, so the point is mooted.

Tell him that if we cannot avoid this outcome, then there is another option. The Doctor can continue to research the plague in Abel's lands, we merely need to make sure he has all he needs to do so, and get Abel's word that he won't harm any of the required items. That would probably include Nix... who is part demon. I wonder if that would be safe.

>>414161
"No."

BLOCK DAT PORTAL

...back off. I do not like this one bit. He has way too much power to be some mook. Not only that, but he may have gear to improve himself or warp items. We do not know, but either way we are not in a good position. He can simply cut loses and then we lose any chance.

Besides, he sent one level 20 here easily. He could send dozens more for all we know. We back off for now. Once he's gone, we talk to nin and have her inform us about Forest. Someone who's level 20 in Abel's army can't be a unknown.

"can you at least tell me, what he told you about me?"

Hope he doesn't threaten to kill the doctor.

>>414161
"Usually, perhaps. But how can he be right now when he doesn't have the right information? Look at me, he thinks I am either like my old self or some upstart wannabe. Neither is correct. Please, I won't stop you but let me talk to the good doctor for a moment. You will only learn more to report, after all."

Also take off your mask. I mean it's a guy and all, but use whatever you got, right? And send the others away... tell them to go to Shana and Lilith. Maybe you can delay enough for either of them to show up.

>>414182
Don't remove the mask. He's probably protected against that.

>>414187
Not to mention WE REALLY NEED TO STOP REACHING FOR THE MASK EVERY TEN SECONDS

>>414189
Maybe we should stop putting it back on. Being consistently hot is tactically advantageous and good for morale.

Oh it would be good, but it's a cheap and not very lasting move. We want them to be loyal to us because they think we are someone who deserves it. Using looks is like using fear. Very easy to bite us in the ass.

SHANA! Kill this monk, will you.

Overlord 2012/05/19(Sat)21:50 No. 414202 ID: 97486c
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Without saying anything you command the portal to be closed and for Shana to come to you.

"You don't seem like an evil person Forest. Surely you can see that him being here is nothing but a benefit? I don't plan on keeping the man, I merely want him to assist us in curing the plague."

Forest shakes his head.

"I do understand but it's really not my choice. Now, if you'll excuse me.."

He pulls out what looks like a smell piece of ceramic with a button on it. Before he can even push it the door opens behind you. You hear Forest gasp as Shana enters the room.

>Shana: "My Lord.. You called..?"

>Forest: "Dear god! That girl is saturated in Dark Mana!"

Forest looks a bit worried.

>>414202
Yes, I'm afraid so. Shana is wonderfully loyal and dedicated. She's everything I could ask for in a minion, but unfortunately she tends to takes things just a little too far. She unfortunately doesn't value her life much, and as you can see, she's far too close to exploding for comfort.


I can never truly die. I would have to rebuild my body, but my power source is not of this reality and is indestructible. Gold means little to me.

By the way, I turned off the portal. Would you like to try and see which would work first, the dark mana or that device, which I would assume is a teleportation device, if Abel has any intelligence at all.

Do you feel lucky today?

>>414203
Er, change "much" to "not nearly enough".

>>414203
Bonus points if you arch your fingers on a desk and lean forward on that last line.

>>414202
First off, ask her why she's like that. Didn't we ask her to not use Dark Mana?

also call styx and have her bring some kind of soul capturing device.

>>414203
This is good.

>>414210
We know why she's like that- because she didn't listen to our orders, as she often does not. Don't show weakness in front of the enemy by questioning her now.

>>414214
indeed do not question her. but seriously styx witha soul jar to catch shana in after the whole dark mana light show. then we can put her in a unstopable golem body that shoots deathrays

This guy is not useful to us. He is too loyal to Abel, and even if we try to interrogate him, he'd lie. Don't even try to reason with him, it won't work. Just toast his ass with one of Shana's spells and take his stuff.

"Shana what happened? You look even worse than before." Address the monk, "Forest, I understand Abel has a lot of resources. Do you know of any way to stop Dark Mana corruption? A way to siphon it off, a soul jar to remove the soul from the saturated Mana, anything?" Make sure Shana is under orders not to attack.

>>414228
We already know what happened, and there is no way to get rid of dark mana. Don't ask this.

Don't reveal anything about Shana. That info isn't useful in Abel's hands. Just let the monk talk and inadvertently reveal what he knows.

I'm telling you guys, He's not going to talk. And Abel would probably be smart enough to send someone this time around who gets the job done well and is a cool customer. Worst case scenario, he kills the doctor just so we can't have him. JUST FRY HIS ASS WITH SHANA MAGIC.

>>414284

If he kills the Doktor in front of Fluffy it would all but secure her loyalty to us.

After all, Lord Abel has already killed her once just for how she looks, if his Monk murders the good Doctor just so WE can't have him and develop a cure it'll be pretty much evident that Lord Abel is more cruel and tyrannical than any villain COULD be.

We also need to introduce her to the Moon child and inform her of how we came into possession of it.

>>414287
The doctor is about a million times more important then fluffy.

>>414310

And there is also virtually nothing we can do aside from blasting him with Shana, which might ALSO hurt the Doctor.

I'm just saying that if the Monk DOES indeed execute the Doctor, his death could serve a purpose in cementing Fluffy's loyalty and souring her thoughts of Abel and his ilk.

>>414311
shana's death spell is very target focus. point at someone and they die. no splash damage. now her body igniting into a darkness fueled super inferno. that is area effect. but i highly doubt she can last much longer even if we keep her out of battles.

Can we just engage in battle already? I don't think the system allows for hostages and I'm tired of fucking around already.

If he's as a powerful as he says he is, we should be able to bring in more than one unit. I'm basing this completely off nothing beyond that fact we've had a 3v1 battle with Silva, and probably others I'm forgetting.

kill him, Machine. kill him dead.

>>414202
Flip the fuck out.

Ok, no flipping out, no killing the possible boss tier unit. Think of this in a long term sense. Abel is likely looking for a fight. A BIG fight. A reason to purify us and throw our eyes in a ditch in the middle of no where so he can continue doing what he loves.

If Forest does not return, he WILL send more people and consider this a declaration. That is bad. Especially if this one last dark magic attack kills our one hitter. Hell, say he is a boss. Want to bet he has DEATH IMMUNITY? Because I don't. Hell, he's a monk! He can probably dodge it! What he's likely worried about isn't the mage but the shit tons of dark energy. That would likely kill him, and the doctor, and fluffy, and wreck half our fixed castle, and our upgraded body and likely kill a few people on the side. It is not worth it. Especially if Abel brings in more.

Order Shana to retreat, and request that Forest at least let us keep the research notes for the Plague Cure. Styx may be able to finish it.

This isn't worth it.
Command Shana to hold until your command. Let the doctor go as Forests hostage, but state that this is most definitely a crime. The doctor is clearly being abducted against his will.

Try to make it clear that you could have had Forest killed instantly on the spot, but you're not interested in causing loss of life for this.

This will be pursued later. Possibly through legal means. (Or you could come up with a plan to bring the doctor back through covert means.)

>>414754
abel is the law. we can not out legal him since he will just change the law to say "abel is always right, suck it overlord"

Dude, what, no. We aren't gonna give this guy our DOCTOR. We need him to do stuff, it's like the only short term goal we have.

I agree. Letting the doc go will stunt our plans a bit. We still have our simple cure with whatever data the doc has so it's not a total wash, but it still stunts our growth.

HOWEVER, the risks are too great. If Shana fights, we lose Doc anyway through the blast along with anyone else. Forest's death means Abel will now think we are at war. For all we know, Forest is Abel's weakest level 20. We use Shana now, we can't use her later.

A cure for the plague is no good if we die before we finish it. If we want to directly go 'No, fucky you Abel!' we need to be a lot stronger and a actual army. Consider that a good goal.

Besides, there was a reason for the poison spitter village remember? This just means more poison spitters until we get the doc back.

>>415039
sigh, i suppose.

Overlord 2012/05/21(Mon)23:10 No. 415045 ID: 97486c
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Forest doesn't say any more but he does seem eager to leave. To prevent that you challenge him to a battle, at least to keep him in the area. You doubt people can teleport out of battle.

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hmmm.... i highly doubt he will be worth enslaving. also if putting him in battle made him drop the doctor telepath alalia to store him.

now... for battle we want peeps that rely less on their weapons or can't be disarmed or are ranged. so lenion, emily and us.

I HAVE A PLAN.

>>415045
I really do not want to try to kill this guy and I would like to make that clear.

Send in only Overlord. We can Scan him and talk to him, but not fight him.

There is no way we will convince this guy, he seems utterly sure of Abel's infallibility. I say we bring Butler, Nix and Overlord. Nix and Overlord literally cannot die, and Butler is a demon so he would respawn here.

Lilith, McButler, Overlord.

>>415050
this combo

Overlord 2012/05/22(Tue)22:22 No. 415294 ID: 97486c
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You decide to send in Nix, yourself, and Butler. Butler looks rather perplexed.

>Butler: "I'm sorry sir but I'm really not much of a fighter.. Don't expect much from me."

Your move.

we don't want to fight him but now that we have his attention we should capitalize on it.
"tell me, what do you know about me, and about abel for that matter?"

Overlord 2012/05/22(Tue)22:40 No. 415301 ID: 97486c
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"Tell me, what do you know about me, and about Abel for that matter?"

The monk doesn't reply. His body stays in an intense looking fighting stance.
It seems he doesn't want to talk.

"the rules of the universe say nothing happens as long as someone still has an action to do. meaning i can set here talking all day while my allies outside the battle secure the doctor some place you can get him. now, are you going to talk or am i going to just sit here ranting at you until i win by simple denial."

Let's just end him and be rid of him. I tire of Abel-brand stubbornness.

Move to shoot 2 spaces diagonal.

>>415302
*you CAN'T get him

Use Scan on him. I predict we cannot win here.

>>415302
>>415342
can't

>>415342
>>415302
This and this.

Nix> use GUILT TRIP: "Why are you trying to stop me from being cured? ;n;"

>>415428
and this

Nix move tetris-L to the right
Butler same
Nix, if within range, use paralyzing spit throw. Coat blade with paralyzing spit.

Butler cannot be disarmed, has no equipment. Suggest using him for our main physical attacker. Overlord, keep ranged tactics. Avoid physical contact when possible. Same for Nix, parablade is mainly for back-up defense. Use toxic spit throw if foe is paralyzed.

>>415434
>Butler cannot be disarmed, has no equipment.
WHAT NO DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS
Butler's pretty much nothing without his equipment.

>>415458
He's a purely physical fighter
First I though he was an unarmed fighter because his stats on the Overlord stats page doesn't detail any equipment, though he has his cane which may or may not be disarmable. I dunno, it may not be considered equipment if it's not listed on the stats page. He has no armor whatsoever to lose, so no, he is not nothing without his equipment.

Nonetheless, he has to engage with the Monk within melee range since he has no ranged attacks at all. People voted to put in a melee fighter with no range abilities, he practically has no other option than to engage him when he can be disarmed. Unless disarm is ranged too than holy fuck we are fucked.

"Fine, don't talk." Point to Nix, "But I want you to look the innocent you are condemning in the eye before you go."

Overlord 2012/05/26(Sat)23:07 No. 416282 ID: 97486c
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No point in wasting words. It's three against one, we can win this.
Butler moves.
Nix moves and coats her blade in paralyzin poison.
Overlord shoots dealing 18 dmg! Forest is knocked back.

Overlord 2012/05/26(Sat)23:08 No. 416283 ID: 97486c
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>"If I didn't think it would be so easy to defeat you I would be a bit worried about that girl exploding before this battle ends. As she is she won't last much longer."

Forest runs.

Give Overlord the wings, have him fly two spaces up and one towards the monk. Have Nix give Butler her paralyzed sword. Butler should move in front of Forest so he is under Overlord and prepare counter. Nix should run to the opposite side of the board.

"if you know a way to stop that i would be willing to trade." if he says no or says nothing then styx move in front of you and attacks him. and butler moves in. then shoot him again.
if he actually says what it is then stand still. and stare.

>>416285
oh yeah, butler has counter.

Nix can paralyze spit right? or is she more accurate with the sword?

Can we please stop trying to fight this guy? Shana needs medical attention, and the doctor doesn't have to be HERE to work on the cure.

Hell, we haven't even SCANNED this guy yet!

I suggested coating her blade in paralyzing poison as a back-up defense, she should try and stay away from him. I'm curious if she can attack with para-spit and back off. That is if it's within range.

Butz, move in front of where Nix is now after she spits. As to be close enough to be within easy moving distance to strike a turn later if she's successful.

>>416286
Careful, discussing trading away the doctor who's working on a cure for Nix right in front of her isn't wise. Even if it serves a practical enough purpose as saving our ass from a Dark Mana Boom, there may or may not be an unforeseen consequence.

>>416295
there is nothing we CAN do. we do not know how to stop a darkmana fire. best thing we could do is Ice 9 her. other then that she WILL burn. unless this guy knows something

>>416296
nix told us she doesn't mind being what she is. and saving someone's life NOW would be more important then saving some lives later. if you care so much though we can get her opinion when the deal is struck.

>>416300
That's what she told us. But what people say and what people actually feel is completely different. Not to mention that's when we were being very kind and sympathetic to her, she had no idea how to respond to such generosity.

IF we drop the generosity angle, well I doubt she would betray us or abandon us, (well that's why I said unforeseen consequences I just don't know what she would do), it'll be a jarring change of attitude that we've displayed toward her and she could rethink her loyalties for a minor bit. Especially mid-battle, you discuss such a trade in the middle of all this, imagine her battle effectiveness dropped, just like back then with the tinker. We're not 100% sure if how this trade will turn out, or if we want to back out of our part of the deal right after.

Everyone here should respawn if blown up, barring Shana because I don't think you can respawn from Dark Mana explosion... for some reason. Some old detail in one of the dis thread or... whatever. The Doctor's safety could be a concern of course, but he could be safe or conveniently turned into loot form for this battle as some form of weird system thing. I dunno, maybe people CAN be loot too, I mean Forest here had him in his hands and now he doesn't in battle-mode. Where did the doctor go? Where COULD he have gone? In the monk's inventory?

I would like to second forgetting this idiot and checking up on Shana. Can we view her dark energy buildup bar? I wouldn't put it past her to have ignored our past orders to avoid filling up the death-meter. She may need help *now*. Nix is stable- we can worry about improving her quality of life later (recover the doc, find a new one, etc).

>>416439
help HOOOOOOOOOW? there is NO FUCKING CURE TO DARK MANA BUILDUP!!

Who knows? Options will present themselves. Or we will fail. But it's worth trying, regardless. We stand by our Units.

There wasn't a way to help plaguespreaders when we started either.

Regardless of what we decide to do, I'd like to checking her meter. Then at the very least we know if this guy is bullshitting us, or if there is an imminent problem.

>>416458
There is a Shadow Mage guild we could consult. All we've heard is like, one person's opinion. We should explore EVERY POSSIBILITY when it comes to saving one of our minions.

>>416472
shadow isn't dark mana.

Overlord 2012/05/27(Sun)15:51 No. 416490 ID: 97486c
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Before you take any more actions you pause to check Shana's purely abstract Dark Mana Meter. It's dangerously close to filling up. You 'can' retreat right now and try to solve this problem but that would leave Forest free to attempt and retreat.

DO IT FAGGOT

I suggest we defeat this guy first. If we leave him alive Shana might do something... rash. Remember she is RIGHT there. She might use dark mana if we retreat without winning thinking to avenge us.

Retreat, tend to our Dangerously Close to Going Super Nova employee.

Let the fuck have the Doctor and be personally responsible for the agony of hundreds, if not thousands of civilians. Shana is our main priority right now, we must do EVERYTHING to lower that bar.

And I mean EVERYTHING.

kill forest. leaving may make her think we lost and she will shoot him. dark mana only fills by casting spells, so long as she doesn't use another it will stay the same. so we have plenty of time. and before we retreat we should think of what to do first before leaving and just running around like headless chickens doing nothing but scream.

Let's beat the fuck out of forest. We can save Shana with wishhax later.

Forest is Level 20 and is a fucking Monk.

The only one we fielded that would be capable of taking him out is the Butler, who, from what we have seen, relies on countering.

>>416504
you mean the monk that fights be hitting things in melee? which can be countered?

We also have two chars on the field that can do long range. Nix can throw poisons and overlord has his gun.

OKAY, THAT QUALIFIES AS AN IMMINENT PROBLEM.

Let him go. Emergency critical care of an ally takes priority over our longer term feud with lawful stupid land, or our long term plaguespreader treatment plans. Our secondary priority is protecting ourselves, other allies, resources and base of operations from the coming explosion.

What are our options? Here's what I can think of...

1. Mimic wish. I'm betting it's cheaper to clean her of dark mana than it is to revive her from death. It may be cheaper to simply make the meter a little bigger. Either way, this is only a short term solution. We can't trust her not to fill up the death gauge again, since she's already ignored orders on that front.

Or we go for a BIG mimic wish. Alter physics- make it so shadow magic doesn't have a dark mana cost. Or dark mana doesn't EXIST, period. That's a long term fix, but is probably prohibitively expensive.

2. Shadow mage guild. They're friendly to us, and even if they can't cure her, they may be able to contain or stabilize her long enough to buy us time to explore other options.

3. Alchemy. Can we produce an item that counters dark mana? Short term solution, if it works, but potentially renewable.

4. Class change. Give her a way to continue helping her beloved overlord without killing herself. We'd still have to deal with the immediate problem, and I'm not sure how we go about this (unless we default to wish again), but it has the advantage of a long term solution.

5. Teleport. The explosion does not have to happen here. Additionally, there may be a location somewhere that will 'damp out' or contain her power for a while, buying us time (magic suppression land?).

6. Demonology. Is there any demon species we can look up that can help? Something that feeds on dark mana would be very useful. Or something with natural defenses / immunities to shadow magic could be used to make a kind of anti-venom.

7. Stasis. Put her on ice to buy us time. Can we repair/modify the sealed room with time dilation properties? Can we use (or improve) our timey wimey watch to freeze her?

8. Pilot eject. Pull her mind/soul/brain whatever out of her body, and then ditch it and let it blow. Reinstall her in a new construct body, with a detectable dark mana tank. :p

Okay, I'm tapped out. Anyone got any other ideas, or think any of these are worth trying?

>>416531
Thats all well and good but what if she decides to nuke forest when she realizes we have not won against him?

also SHADOW MAGIC is NOT dark mana. dark mana is spells are a special subset of OP spell that lvl 20s learn. shadow magies manipulate shadows and stuff. like summon shadow beasts.

If we tell Forest that he should teleport out immediately and open the portal again, Shana won't be able to cast at him fast enough to kill herself. It will be retreat-POOF.

>>416509
>>416511

Sounds like a pretty darn manageable battle to me!

>>416490
I think fighting and killing him will calm her down.
Letting this dick go right in front of her will prompt her to take her own action if she continues the pattern we've seen her do when we let people go.
I get that Shana seems like the biggest concern right now, and okay, I get it, yes holy shit it's really freaking me out right now with that bar in my face. But I think the best thing we can do for Shana is kill this fucker. Because she likes it when we're brutal and it'll keep her calm and docile.

Calm and docile is how we like walking, feeling, living bombs. Don't we?

Overlord 2012/05/28(Mon)00:08 No. 416639 ID: 97486c
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A small part of you wishes to end this fight and attend to your unit but a larger part knows that to do so may very well end in her death.
You decide to keep fighting.

>Butler: "My Lord.. I must say I really do dislike fighting. I'll only attack if he attacks me first."

"I know."

>"Good. Also please don't call on me to battle with you again unless Lady Lilith is in danger."

"We'll see."

Still need a plan of action.

butler downright to be right in front of us and counter stance. nix throws a glob of acid or something at him. we shoot him and go "come at me bro".

Scan the monk.

>>416639
Yo, Nix girl get your spit on with some paralyzing sick moves chica.
Butler, my man, back-up Nix please. Overlord, fire again. Or maybe do that wing trick discussed earlier if you can equip the wings. >>416285
Still fire on that fucker though once you're in the air.

>>416642
back up how? he literally said he will only counter attack.

Overlord 2012/05/28(Mon)00:42 No. 416648 ID: 97486c
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>>416641
There's no point in scanning him, you're other half knew of his abilities and so do you.
Nix uses Toss Paralysis Potion and Paralyzes Forest!
You fire at Forest and deal 25 dmg and knock him back one space!
Butler moves.

Overlord 2012/05/28(Mon)00:44 No. 416649 ID: 97486c
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Forest uses Panacea! All status effects are removed.
Forest moves uses Disarm on Nix!
Nix has lost her Bastard Sword and Half Plate for the duration of the battle.
Your move

>>416643
When I say back-up, I really meant just be in front of Nix for most of the battle, excluding when she spits, then he should probably avoid that yeah.

I mean, that's all he really CAN do here if the Monk doesn't attack him. Unless we can convince him to attack.
Something about how we have to keep Shana from justifying any use of Dark Mana or the entire Castle blows up in a dark mana explosion, which will harm his master Lilith. Whether or not the explosion will be that big is irrelevant, the concern for Lilith may be enough to attack the Monk. If he needs an in depth explanation of how attacking the monk will keep Shana from using Dark Mana, we could say that she is a very fiesty and violent lady, and very stern and loves being in control. If we lose this battle or he escapes, she will be tempted to use Dark Mana powers out of pride for her Overlord.

everyone shuffle one space up-left, nix use BARF. just punch yourself in the gut, and let loose some chunks on him.

or just more poison. you can keep inflicting statuses and he will waste his or run out. try a double one or something. then butler counter and overlord shoot him again.

>>416649
Yikes, okay Nix back the fuck off, try toxic spit. There's no way an abilities like full cure of all status effects is free, keep him distracted with status effects and he'll run out of his curing shit be they be item, magic, or spirit based.

Butler, de-equip your cane. Just try and keep Nix safe while we spam status effects for the entire battle.

I can't help but ask how a paralyzed man could cure himself in battle.

>>416649
Nix, move back a space and spit paralysis again.
Butler, take Nix's place.
Overlord, move over behind Nix to shoot Forest.

Forest cannot move fast enough to reach anyone but Butler assuming Overlord hits, unless he Runs. This could actually work... If Overlord misses then Forest can attack Nix though.

>>416652
>de-equip your cane
Why would he do that?

Don't do that.

>>416652
When I mean keep her safe, just keep trying to block the fucker from getting up in front of her face and hurting her, just keep getting ruining his path to Nix. You know what, just keep getting in his way in general.
Nix, When I mean back the fuck up, go to three spaces diagonal from where Butler is standing because I realize three spaces directly behind you doesn't exist.
Overlord, de-equip sword and gun and stand next to Nix's pending position. If de-equiping counts as an item phase, and you can switch phases around (because i forget if you can), then attack Forest before moving, then make that movement I suggested.
Styx, pop in for a quick tool-tip, does Overlord's body count as armor and thus can be disarmed? Or does his body defense bonuses just count as armor or what? The question I'm asking is, what stuff besides Overlord's weapons can the Monk disarm?

>>416656
I'm trying to keep his cane safe in case he decides to get serious with the attacking. Keep it as a back-up you know?

Oh yeah, also ask him if there's any way he can think of for us to allow the Doctor to somehow continue his research in Abel's lands.

We're fighting over the chance to find the cure, aren't we?

>>416659
No, we are fighting because Abel is a massive douche and doesn't like the fact that WE are using "HIS" Doctor.

After all, Abel wouldn't even properly fund the Doctor's research. It's likely that if the Doctor gets back in Abel's lands all progress for a cure from him will come to a stop.

After all, the only reason the Doctor wanted to stay was because we had "successfully" operated on Nix and...while not completely curing her, brought her to a state where she won't be an immediate danger to anyone and the Doctor can work without risk of becoming infected Himself.

Abel probably wouldn't give two fucks about finding a cure if it meant bringing an infected into his entire COUNTRY.

>>416675
Don't allow yourself to be blinded by hate. That is what Abel has fallen prey to.

Think about it. Abel wants to look good to his citizens. This would be an opportunity to develop a cure and take credit for it. Of course, we already spoke to the cleric guild about how we were working on a cure and didn't want to publish our findings until we were further along, but... if we must give up the Doctor and at the same time give him the means to continue the research while he's away, I believe the smartest thing to do would be to tell the cleric guild what we've done. They would be able to stand up for us if Abel tried to take all the credit.

At best, Abel could call it a joint venture, likely through teeth clenched with rage. Or whatever equivalent an Order Golem has.

Abel is blinded by his nature more then anything else. Things changing their definition is incomprehensible to him, hence Fluffy must be an elf instead of a demon-born Hero. A place for everything and everything in its place.

Nix: make out with Forest furiously, that'll show him.

FFFFFF- he doesn't NEED to kill any of us. He can just disarm everyone and then be all "Allow me to leave or die." We need to make one last stab at diplomacy.

I propose we let him take the Doctor, whether the Doctor wishes to leave or not, but only after the following, very reasonable, terms have been agreed to by Able:
1) Able promises to actually fund the cure, and to allow it to be found.
2) Nix (gesture toward her) is to be allowed access to Able's lands to monitor the Doctor's progress and for the Doctor to study her. She is to be protected from harm while in his lands or immediately outside of their gates, and is to be allowed to come and go as she pleases.
3) Upon the discovery of a cure, the Doctor is to allowed to cure her, at which point she shall leave Able's lands and our arrangement shall be concluded.
4) The angels are to be requested to step in should Able break any of his terms, or should he find evidence that Nix has been using her access to his lands to spy on him, to steal items, or to kill someone. I admittedly have no idea if they'll agree to this, but I don't trust Able and doubt that he actually trusts us, so having a (no doubt powerful and influential) third party to assist will be reassuring to both sides.

...Also say that Shana needs to actually cast another Dark Mana spell in order to explode, and that if he agrees to help us pursue this last attempt at diplomacy we'll be able to try to find a solution to her taint while he's away, either by finding a way to convince her to never cast another Dark Mana spell or by killing her should we feel that she isn't adequately convinced.

Overlord 2012/05/29(Tue)22:53 No. 417161 ID: 97486c
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>>416657
You can't switch any phase but the Item Phase. Also if he does Disarm you you'll lose your Sword, Force Gun, and the Goldeon Plating. It'll just take away your defense bonus.

Nix moves back and Spits at Forest causing paralysis!
Butler moves and goes on the defensive.
You move back and fire dealing 25 dmg and knocking back Forest!

Overlord 2012/05/29(Tue)22:55 No. 417162 ID: 97486c
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Forest runs.

>"You know.. If you just let me go I can promise that the Doctor will continue his research. I'm sure Abel will even let you check in to see how he's doing. Let's just end this fight hmm? Your Shadow Mage needs some serious help."

Your move.

>"You know.. If you just let me go I can promise that the Doctor will continue his research. I'm sure Abel will even let you check in to see how he's doing. Let's just end this fight hmm? Your Shadow Mage needs some serious help."

I am willing to accept this.

>>417162
Take the deal.

"and what can i do? hold her hand while she explodes? unless you have some ideas on how to drain dark-mana out of someone i don't have any way to help her. if i do take the deal and i come by at a later time to check in and i am attacked and/or find out his research has been halted i will hold you responsible."

"your holding the best chance I have of helping her. he may be specialized in dealing with the plague but he is the strongest healer on hand. if you let him help my follower I will let you take him."

Overlord 2012/05/29(Tue)23:25 No. 417183 ID: 97486c
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"... Very well."

You end the battle.
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"I will hold you to your word Forest. If I find you have lied to me.."

>"I promise, everything I've said is true."

You nod.

"Now about Shana, how exactly do I help her? I had heard there is no way to cure Dark Mana corruption."

Forest looks a bit nervous.

>"There is a... Well 'way' so to speak."

"What is it?"

>"There is a bit of a 'glitch' and.. I really shouldn't talk about this."

"Talk about what?"

>"Well.. Abel knows the Laws of the World. He also knows their weak-points and the way to get rid of Dark Mana is one of them."

"Tell me it."

>"... Fine. If she is nearing explosion, like she is now, then if she uses her strongest Dark Mana spell the Corruption Amount rolls over into negatives and resets itself."

"That doesn't make any sense."

He just shrugs.

>"I don't understand how it works any more then you do. Now, may I leave?"

There's no real reason to keep him here at this point.. Unless you have anything more to say to him. The Doctor is still unconscious. You hear Shana give out a low groan of pain.

Tell him to stay for the treatment, if it is a lie he dies with Shana in the explosion.

Cast the corruption spell on Forest, see if it makes him loyal to the Overlord.

>>417183
FINE.

SHANA GET IN HERE AND GET NAKED. SHOOT YOUR BIGGEST DARK MANA WAD AT ROSE. SHE'LL RESPAWN HERE, IT'S COOL. JUST MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT HOLDING BACK. THE NUDITY IS TO MAKE SURE THE RESET IS COMPLETE AND NO DARK MANA CORRUPTION REMAINS.

Ask him to wait to leave until after we do the rollover, as it's hard to trust him.

Ask Shana what her biggest dark mana spell is. If it's Thee-ad, have Rose come in, and Shana can cast Thee-ad on her. It'll hopefully make Shana believe that they are even, so we don't have to worry about them getting in fights anymore.

>>417183
Shana...

END Forest with your biggest, most powerful Dark Mana spell.
Then enslave him.
When he comes back, let him go back to Abel with the deal. Assure him that this was the most sure way to test if he was lying. You had this planned out perfectly.
(Also it's kinda awesomely diabolical while being practical)

Yeah don't let him go until after we try the cure. Then inform him that Kassandra (our most Abel-country-friendly unit) will be checking up on the Doctor periodically until the cure is complete.

get close to shana and tell her she gets her wish. tell her to blow the biggest wad of dark mana powered mojo at rose. tell rose to get in here if she isn't.

>>417183
Don't we have a large supply of disposable demi-slimes right now? If something needs to be nuked to save her, may as well be something insignificant

>>417195
first fluffy needs to tell them the secret to not being inflicted with the no-respawn on the gate.

The secret is that fluffy is insane. she doesn't count, other units can't do that.

>>417199
Abel's probably already developed a counter to her way because I think she admitted it to him.

Hmm, corruption might be better idea then trying to kill him in a single big attack. But that'll end any possibility of diplomatic relations with Abel, probably. What's more likely, that a Dark Mana attack can kill him in one hit or corrupt him to our side in one hit?

Shana does have Thee AD which is a one hit kill, but she might miss or it might not be powerful enough.

Overlord 2012/05/29(Tue)23:53 No. 417207 ID: 97486c
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"One moment. I just want to make sure this actually works."

You call in Rose and explain the situation. She looks very nervous but agrees. Shana is all to happy to comply.

>Forest: "I really think I shoul-"

>Shana: "Thee-ad.."
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>>417207
Well, did it work?

Also, collect Rose's stuff and give it back to her.

>>417207
Forest got interrupted. Then Shana used 3 AD after we discussed it.

Who did she blast!?

Overlord 2012/05/29(Tue)23:59 No. 417211 ID: 97486c
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You hear Rose yelling from downstairs. She respawned safely enough.

"Shana, how do you feel?"

>Shana: "M-my Lord, it didn't work! He lied!"

You see Forest try to run away as darkness surrounds Shana. She gives out a cry.
There is a loud explosion
You feel the castle shaking.
You hear Forest yell in pain.
The force of the explosion rips apart your armor.
You black out.

I told you you should have killed Forest.
I told you bro about them liers.

>>417212
I know you blacked out, but try and enslave the Doctor or Forest if you can. We can't guarantee they survived the explosion.

>>417211
SHANAAAAAAAAA D:

Overlord 2012/05/30(Wed)00:04 No. 417216 ID: 97486c
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>Emily: "My Lord! My Lord are you awake!?"

>Rose: "Emily, yelling at him isn't going to wake him up."

>Emily: "But he moved! My Lord are you awake! Say something! Say, 'I am the Overlord!' you loved saying that!"

.....

Dejavu.

>>417216
"FUCK ABEL WITH A RAKE"

Say that we're fine, we still have all our memories from the most recent life.

Ask what happened.

>>417216
Rose, sorry about that. Seriously.
Tell me we didn't just lose all our slaves.
Or did we go back in time?
Or did we go back to being ruthless and evil and amassed an army, someone betrayed us again, then there was ANOTHER violent revolt and we're back to here again, this time with the memories of our kinder, more practical self?

Really? Why didn't we check that ourselves first? We can check the Code, too!

>>417216
"My memory and thoughts seem to be scattered... Remind me again... Who are you..?"

"... Just kidding!"

"think of new material."

"Is everyone ok?"

i'm fine, I seem to have kept my mind. tell me, what happened? and did Forrest escape.

I should have known it was a lie
I mean, seriously, negative values? What kind of Dark Mana user can use exactly the amount of Dark Mana required to go boom without going over? Regardless of the amount of Dark Mana used, it shouldn't have worked out if we've never heard of it from anybody exact Abel because dark Mana users would have abused that shit to death because someone would have been stupid enough to try it before now.

Overlord 2012/05/30(Wed)00:25 No. 417231 ID: 97486c
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"I'm the Overlord.. I think. I am right? Is everything okay? What happened?"

>Emily: "My Lord!! Styx, he's awake!"

You feel yourself being lifted up as Styx quickly begins working on repairing your body. As she does Emily babbles on about what happened.
She explains that after the explosion the Doctor was blown straight out of the castle along with herself and she managed to catch him before he hit the ground. You were ripped apart and thrown everywhere and no one knows what happened to Forest. She says he just vanished.

>Styx: "And without you being awake or in a battle there's no way we could have enslaved him or anything. Though if he had died 'something' should have been left behind. We're just not sure what happened."

>"Emily: "And then we found Shana lying on the ground here"

"Shana? She survived?"

Emily nods and tells you that Shana survived the explosion and just woke up an hour ago. She's looking pretty ok but she's been acting weird.

How weird, you say.

>Emily: "Well she said she sorry to Rose for killing her."

Overlord 2012/05/30(Wed)00:26 No. 417232 ID: 97486c
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".... Wait. She said what?"

uhhh... hmmm.. maybe forest WAS telling the truth, but the process is still very violent. probably reaching max triggers "explosion" but being AT max triggers death. so it's complicated. anyway. WAT. we gotta see this.

>>417232
Sounds like the dark mana saturation was affecting her personality for the worse. Now that it's negative, it's affecting it for the better.

Or maybe worse. I wonder if she will be even HARDER to deal with now? Have her come in so we can talk to her. Right now, why not.

yeah just "styx just get me stable. will worry about the details later" and go check it out.

The Dark Mana she's accumulated has probably been affecting her mind for most of her life, and if it reset she's probably much more saner now. Forest's trick may have actually worked, though it does come with an explosion which he didn't expect. He very well could have been telling the truth from his perspective, but Abel never told him the entire truth.

All her Dark Mana build-up is probably gone, that or she's lost the ability to use it. It's unlikely something so drastic doesn't have consequences. We need to inspect her, fully. Make sure all her shit's running as usual bar Dark Mana magic.

Overlord 2012/05/30(Wed)01:09 No. 417253 ID: 97486c
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"Bring her here. I want to talk to her."

Emily goes down and fetches Shana. When she returns Shana looks at you and tears form in her eyes.

>Shana: "My Lord I'm so sorry I never listened to you... I'm the worst servant ever... And now I'm not even strong anymore.. You should just kill me for real.."

No. We'll kill her and Enslave her. Then she WILL obey our orders.

"you did your best, and what you thought i wanted. you never disobeyed a direct order, you may have tried to find loopholes in vague ones but i could at least trust you."

>>417255
Oh come on. It's quite obvious she has learned her lesson now. Despite her actions she was not acting against us, she merely wanted to please us a bit /too/ much.

>>417253
"Shana, what happened wasn't your fault. It was mine and I paid for it. I should have just tried killing Forest, though we do still have the Doctor. You take the faults and mistakes of yourself and others too seriously. If you're going to listen to me, maybe think of stuff other than what you usually think about. Go and learn new ways of thinking, hell go take a moral philosophy class at the Y or Shadow Mage School or something. You can start anew, this is your chance to."

>>417253
"Are you certain the Dark mana corruption is gone?"

Then

"Why would I do that? You followed my orders this time without question - and it seems you've actually grown a bit as a person. Sure, you blew me apart, but all that did was give Styx some extra work."

>>417256
Well, there WAS that order about not using dark mana any more...

"I'm not going to kill you. I told you before, I don't work that way any more. As long as you are willing to serve me, I will have a place for you. What happened here was a loss, but it could have been far worse. We are all still here, we will simply have to build you up again. I hope this experience has shown you the danger in doing everything on your own."

I'm glad she's okay.

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"The corruption is all gone?"

She nods.

>>417255

"I'm afraid I'll have to..."

She looks at you, completely fearful of what judgement you'll pass upon her.

"..... It's not your fault Shana. I'm sure the corruption had affected your judgement. And while what happened here was a loss, but it could have been far worse. We are all still here, we will simply have to build you up again. I hope this experience has shown you the danger in doing everything on your own."

>"It has.. I'll do my best from now on to follow your every order my Lord."

Well... She's still 'mostly' the same. Maybe a bit more meek? That might even be why she got into Dark Mana..
Anyway the doctor is still with us and now Shana's no longer in any danger of exploding..
It seems most of your problems have been solved. The only real problem left is Abel and Forest.

order your imps to rebuild the explodinated places.

Send a tablet to Abel, asking if Forest got back alive. State that his lie of omission thankfully did no permanent damage to you, and Shana is no longer corrupted, just as he said, so no harm done. Also state that however, he left the Doctor behind in his haste, and thus we have the same dilemma as before. Ask if Abel can promise you that the research for the cure will continue in his lands, and you will get credit for what work you've done towards the cure, and a share of the profits if there are any. If he agrees, arrange for him to do so in front of witnesses- the cleric guild from before comes to mind.

Emphasize that there is no need for any further violence over this issue. We are both thinking beings, and we can come to an agreement despite our conflicting natures.

Oh yeah and also reassure Shana that although she has lost all her single-target power from before, she has unlocked an astounding potential to turn the enemy's numbers against them. That was something we were sorely lacking, in fact. We had a lot of units that were good in 1v1 fights, but none that truly excelled at multi-target damage.

Oh for the love of, I go to bed and we resort to cure by suicidal overload, team killing, and integer rollover?

First things first: WE need to apologize to rose too.

Next: Check up on Fluffy. Talk to her, investigate the sword powered by our other eye. Get Styx to look at it.

Longer term:

Our flying castle gets broken into by casual riffraff *way* too often. Invest in repairs and defenses to minimize this.

Also, lvl*1*? Start power-leveling Shana. Since grinding is boring, we don't actually have to do it ourselves- have a high level unit escort her on automated training missions against mid-leveled threats. Lenion might enjoy this. Or maybe Rose is a better choice- good chance for the two of them to bond, work through any remaining issues. Possibly send the aggro-drawing golem along, if keeping the lvl 1 mage at range isn't safe enough.

As far as Abel goes, hold on to the doctor for now Abel can wait the month. Forest well technically did tell the truth left out the rather improtant detail that she still EXPODES!

Abel's attitude also slightly sickens me. He acts like the doctor belongs to him instead of being a citizen in his country so it would serve him right to be disobeyed like this.

>>417304
Hrm. What equipment did we lose in the explosion? Let's take inventory here.

And we need to go speak with Rose. Thank her for her willingness to go through that on our command. Suicidal dedication to obey counts quite a bit toward making up for certain past indiscretions.

>>417318

Abel, as far as we know, is a Golem of Order, He might not be.

But as a Golem of Chaos, it is in our very nature to oppose what we are, Abel on the other Hand, if he is a Golem of Order, He Is lawful stupid by design.

I have no doubt in my mind that he would, given the option to murder the Doctor or let us keep him to develop a cure, He would murder the Doctor.

>>417309
>>417316
this two, also awww, Shana is adorable now

New Rule

Never trust anything Abel's soldiers tell us without them being chained to the floor and used to test whatever they told us.

>>417327
No, that's a bit too much like Abel.
Trust them only once they've proven themselves trustworthy, like the Doctor has.

>>417336

The Doctor isn't one of Abel's soldiers, the Doctor is a neutral party in all of this.

The Doctor wants to help us, Abel just wants the Doctor back so we don't have him.

Hug her, dummy.
What's her star count?
How's everyone else?

>>417358

Before we respond with the default "I don't hug", etc...

She probably could use a little more comforting / reassurance before we move on. She did just painfully die for us, she's potentially going through something akin to withdrawal, and her self-image / sense of self worth has been badly shaken.

>>417371
Even if we don't hug, we could at least, I don't know, pat her or something.

Alright. Forest is gone, Shana is OK, Doctor is here, and Fluffy is on our team. This is good. However, we have a few slight problems.

1: Forest may have returned to Abel. I have a feeling Abel can bend the rules to suit him and if so, he now knows.

2: We have ZERO data about Forest, but I am sure Nin does. She did work for Abel and level 20s aren't common.

3: Shana is now level 1. She lost her dark mana, but also most of her power. We might have to do some leveling for her in the near future.

4: We lost our big cannon against high level foes. We NEED to bolster our defenses and army PRONTO. If forest comes back with 1 or 2 high level enemies, we may very well lose. Now is the perfect time to have other lands ally with us.

Engage Extensive Power Leveling / Experience Grinding Montage with Highway To the Danger Zone playing over it.

It is the only way we will ever become strong enough.

>>417392

DOWNVOTE

Eye of the Tiger is better.

>>417420

I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE GOOD SIR.

Do you wish to engage in fisticuffs over the matter? If so I would be MORE than delighted to take you up on the matter! What say you?

We just let Shana execute Rose, which was pretty harsh, so it would probably fair to her if we make Styx give Rose her sweet tooth back.

>>417495
we said each person gets one punishment on her. shana wanted death. so she got that, and feels sorry about it now. styx will get to decide if it's the right time.

... Our charm face is broken now isn't it?

>>417497
I certainly hope so.

>>417497
>>417498
styx can rebuild it. and have the power dial built in. so we can be moderately attractive all the way to GOD OF HOTNESS.

>>417377
No hugs, no pats, no excuses.

Words of encouragement, possibly apology, are all that are needed, and will be given.

>>417501
This.

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You don't hug. Really, these random thoughts are bothersome. You do give her a few reassuring words. Her loyalty is as high as it could possibly be. She smiles at you before running off to be examined by the Doctor for any other side effects.
You try to find Rose but she seems to have run off.
You decide to check on Fluffy and ask her about the Orb and Blade.

>"The Orb is actually your other Eye isn't it? I think I know what I wanna do in life so... You can have it if you want."

She holds it out to you.
You feel and odd power emanating from it.

"if i start laughing maniacally, snatch it back"

grab eye

DO NOT JUST STICK IT IN.

Bring it to Styx first. Investigate- make sure it's safe. We don't want to suffer a sudden change in personality, go crazy, lose control, or accidentally unlock our old grimdark ruthless personality. Caution is advised.

Get Styx in here to observe the effects of you finally being whole again. Then take it.



We really need to find Rose. First of all ask if Styx is willing to take give back her sweet tooth. Then I suggest asking around if anyone has seen her.

Also thank her for her loyalty and helping cure Shana. Maybe apologize for scaring her.

>>417626
do not pressure styx into undoing her punishment.

we should ask styx if there is any way she can make sure that uniting both eyes won't have some sort of negative effect on our stability.

j-j-j-jam it in

>>417623
>>417624
These.

Actually, just in case we do lose control it might be wise to take precautions.

When we do decide to test re-combing the eye, we should be stripped down and unequipped. Test should take place in a secure, locked room. Have a squad of units standing by- with orders to put you down *hard* if anything goes wrong etc.

I'm going to default to TNG logic here. We're going into a situation where the captain may be compromised. We *need* a good team of officers willing to take him on if/when that happens.

Who can we trust with this? Styx, sure. We need her to check out the eye, check us out after, and potentially to reverse bad things. Basically, she's medical and has final say over if we're fit to return to duty / be trusted / in sane mind.

Alice can probably be trusted to put us down if we go darkside- should maybe even be in charge of the commando squad (Continuing the analagoy, she's our number one).

As for other commandos- Rose has already put evil-us down once, but it'd be nice to talk/apologize to her about before we let her hold an axe over our head. Nin would have no qualms about stabbing us if we go south. Lilith probably shouldn't be there (too good a chance for her to try and seize power, look out for her own interests). Butler is probably honorable enough to be trusted, and if things go south we could be a threat to his mistress after all. Fluffy, yes- this is pretty much her stated reason for joining us.

Emily might be a good idea, in that she has first hand experience with evil us, and has reigned us in at least once. Of course, we need to make sure she understands what's going on, and that she won't just side with us in battle no matter what.

This is *probably* overkill, but I dun want to take chances here.

>>417668
this and this>>417691

>>417626
No, Styx will decide if Rose gets back her sweets. Rose probably was just a bit unnerved by how we ordered her to "die" like that. Keep focus on our current problems, as they're piling up.

Forest, the eye, the Doctor.

Get Styx in here to observe you acquiring your second eye.

Guys. We were fine without the eye. Can we just...not?
Put the eye in a safe and bury it.

>>417691
Good man! I fully support this man.

We need a name for this team. I propose the Deadhand Squad.

I wonder if anyone will get that nuclear reference

>>417756

We have NO idea what the Eye will do to us, if it indeed does ANYTHING negative.

We are NOT going to bury our EYE because of paranoia! We'll test it, if it becomes too much of a pain to have on us, THEN we can decide to ditch it or not.

Prepare a lab, get Styx to watch us, then we insert the eye and record any and all changes that may occur.

>>417691
Don't forget a quick ejection system operable only by us.

>>417767

That defeats the purpose. We want to be contained, and in check, because we might not be able to trust ourselves.

Rather, we want the opposite. An exit we *can't* take. Controlled from outside the room. By someone who won't fall for trickery, coercion, threats, or emotional blackmail.

...Alice gets absolute control over the door.

If we do insert the eye, there is a fairly simple solution to the mind alteration process. What we would do is install the eye in a system that will automatically spit the eye out after a few hours or if the system is tampered with. When the eye is out after this trial period we can safely assess whether we want to implant it more permanently.

On the other hand, I have a better idea for the eye. We can control it, so what if we add a spell to control the swapping then make another body for it?

>>417790
you mean OUR OWN CLONE?!

>>417790
Oh shit son, you know what that means.
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