Get Jasper up to speed and comfy with existence!!! Use fun and relatable phrases and images to spice it up!!!

oh fuck i am so ready for this

making jasper feel comfortable seems like a plan?

The truffle shuffle.

seconded. lets make jasper feel at home. >>854207

First we need to apologize to the person who had our back through almost this entire debacle that we hurt. CREATE mountainous (to TCP) Toblerone with the words "We are Sorry Wretch/Spit is a butt anyway"

>>854210
also seconding this, thank god

>>854210
the / signifies a line break, right?

>>854203
Open up communication with everyone except Spit.

Leave Jasper alone for now, but let them know that we'll be here when they're ready to talk.

>Talk to Jasper
>Also talk to Wretch

>>854213
basiclly but I was thinking other side of the Toblerone

Let's talk to Jasper. It's not that long since we asked Eastwood to speak to Wretch for us, so some time is needed there.

I would remind that we need to inform our allies about that sanctuary with made that gods can't see or act on directly, and think about what to do with it and what Spit is likely to try do with/about it. Talking to our allies about it is top priority, though, since part of the reason for making it was to show our TCPs that we trust them, and in order to do that each god should be the one to tell their own TCPs about it.

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit beeeeeeeeegiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnsssssss

First task is to make things right with Wretch. Jasper has support in the form of the other TCPs, Wretch does not.

I made a bunch of planning posts, most of which is stuff we can just CREATE as soon as is convenient: >>/questdis/110850 >>/questdis/110032 >>/questdis/111284

However, our #1 priority should be talking to Wretch when she's available. >>/questdis/116232

>>854210
I like the feeling behind the gesture, but seeing as we'd just be making it with the CREATE command and she would have no way of eating it, I don't think it would send the right message.

We need to handle this very carefully, so I think a face to face (or screen to screen, whatever) conversation is the way to go.

Beyond the net launcher, we have no way of keeping subdued targets down beyond continual tazing/tranquilising.

CREATE a crate of Deployable Bubbles
-Small (TCP)hand sized balls that can be activated to deploy a strong resin bubble around an incapacitated TCP, properly capturing it without being as constraining/inflexible as handcuffs
-Permits sound and light through the membrane, blocks all physical materials since TCPs don't need to eat/drink/breathe, so it prevents pressure changes from instantly causing bad things to the TCP
-Scented like lemon grass


CREATE a Bubble Popper
-Instantly pops deployed bubbles on contact
-Can also poke TCPs if you wanted to

>>854294
So, Pokeballs? Not a bad idea.

>>854210
Voting against the Toblerone. I don't think creating stuff is the right way to apologise here. I can't help but think, given the ability to create nearly anything that creating something as a apology will only come off as a token gesture. Besides, Eastwood said he'd talk to Wretch so that's our in to sincerely apologise.

>Creating stuff
I don't think we should be creating stuff at the moment. I don't want to confuse our cats with new stuff just after we kitted them out, plus I'm paranoid about getting the admin's attention after the warning earlier. So I kinda want to play it safe with the creates. Keep creates simple, and use it only when needed.

>Apologising to Wretch
We need to do this. We fucked up, no doubt about it. We need to admit fault and apologise for our actions. Say that we understand now why our actions were bad, and say what we'll do to correct our behaviour (And stick to our word). I don't think we should try to justify what we did, unless Wretch asks or something. Personally I think something real nasty went on between Spit and Wretch (and it probably being Spit's fault).

I think we should talk to Jasper first, then apologise to Wretch (To give Eastwood a chance to talk to her).

>>854301
If you would rather keep things simple, we should at least create some handcuffs or rope or bondage gear or something. Our TCPs have the means to incapacitate, but few means to keep prisoners under control.

>>854301
>say what we'll do to correct our behaviour (And stick to our word)

We can't promise that. We are (in-quest) a collective entity, a being with no center - hence our appearance, our name, and what seems our general nature, a nothing where a core should be, a set of masks with no actor underneath. There is no central self controlling us and hence, though we have a personality and goals formed by majority trends, we can't totally guarantee anything. We're impulsive and have difficulty with self-control or self-censorship and that is a problem that is going to continue being the case.

That's ok. We should be sorry about it, and try to compensate for it as much as we can and repay our debts for it when we can't, but we shouldn't pretend to the people we care about, and who by this point care about us, that we're capable of something we're not. It's something that we'll need help with, and so long as we're doing our part helping others with their problems then that's ok, too.

That's part of why we'e going for this "love and trust our TCPs" angle. We're an imperfect god and our creations can theoretically surpass us in some qualities, and we want them to. That includes given them the power to defy us if they see fit, and giving them the education and confidence to do so rightfully.

I intend to repeat ideas along this line to Jasper, though we certainly need to present them to Wretch as well. We just need to make sure we don't come across as trying to weasel our way out of things with excuses. Though we shouldn't fall over ourselves apologizing either, since part of Wretch being hurt was a legitimate misunderstanding on her part.

>>854307
Flirting with Spit is a fuckup with obvious and specific causes, which shouldn't be hard for us (even as a collective) to not repeat. All we have to do is remind ourselves of this incident (I'll do it personally if need be, I'm not going anywhere) before indulging in our flirtatious habits again, and more generally remind ourselves to take Wretch's feelings into account when making decisions.

If we can't commit even that much then we shouldn't even bother trying to be friends with Wretch.

>>854302
Rope would do, it covers a multitude of uses and would work well with Primus' parkour skills.

>>854307
Yeah, we're imperfect. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do what we can. Set realistic targets and attempt to achieve them. At the very least try. Us being a collective doesn't mean we can't collectively try.

I'm not sure what happened, I assume Spit showed or told Wretch something to do with us flirting with Spit (Regardless of context), knowing that it would hurt Wretch. Spit has the motive to do that (She's a nasty piece of work), but why would Spit know that would hurt Wretch? That suggests there's something (Most likely unpleasant) that we don't know that happened between those two.

Ask Wretch to call us a bad kitty because we hurt her and we don't deserve her

Eh fuck it get it out the way asap

>Call Wretch

Might wanna go with a plaintive greeting, gauge how she initially responds, then roll from there. I think our strongest angle to go with would be just to explain that what we did didn't go down as intended on many fronts. Explain that it was a ploy to agitate Spit which backfired in our faces. Explain that we didn't, and still don't now, intend to upset or offend her. While we may shit about sometimes our intentions towards her, and by extension the rest of our little alliance, are sincere.

1/4 mortis 2017/12/28(Thu)19:24 No. 854382 ID: 8a251a
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You’ve done some tiny upgrades to the wizard tower here and there, nothing huge- mostly cosmetics. It’s a lot cozier now, and you’re pretty confident in it looking pretty damn wizard-y. Your TCPs certainly seem to like it, and have been taking a well needed break before war begins.

You peek in on Jasper, an odd feeling in your chest as you notice them fiddle nervously with the mask of courage. They seem apprehensive, but they keep looking at it and then away again, as if unsure of what to do.

Time to multitask. You call Wretch up, and to your surprise, she actually picks up.

2/4 mortis 2017/12/28(Thu)19:24 No. 854383 ID: 8a251a
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VOIDSY: Hey-
She growls, cutting you off.

WRETCH: ….
WRETCH: ……..
WRETCH: you got a lot of fuckin nerve callin me like this
WRETCH: you went and flirted with spit after everythin i told you
WRETCH: do you even care about this shit and if it hurts people

3/4 mortis 2017/12/28(Thu)19:24 No. 854384 ID: 8a251a
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WRETCH: would you even CARE if you knew what she does to me?
WRETCH: or is that too much for you??? am i too much for you????
WRETCH: am i TOO FUCKING MUCH for you like i am for everybody else?

She chokes.

4/4 mortis 2017/12/28(Thu)19:25 No. 854385 ID: 8a251a
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WRETCH: whats yr fucking deal man
WRETCH: i thought you were my friend
WRETCH: i thought we were buds
WRETCH: whyd you have to go and do that

They were right, you don't deserve this big Toblerone.

>>854386
shut your entire face

>>854386
Wretch deserves every Toblerone there is, cur.

I think that, more important than what we do say, is what we don't say. We shouldn't make any jokes or excuses. We should clarify that we have nothing but hatred for Spit, but not until prompted. Now is the time for unequivocal apologies, acceptance of blame, and promises to do better. We need Wretch to feel validated, and like we're being honest with her.

I'd write something myself, but I'm fucking awful at sounding sincere.

Put down the goddamn Toblerone you're gonna have someones eye out with it.

Wretch we weren't exactly being serious with the flirting with Spit. It was a bait to piss them off and it's backfired. Sorry if we've come lightly-handed but that's really all there is to it. Of course we're your bud ;_; That's why we're talking right now, right? This has been an absolutely massive misunderstanding. Even if you fuckin hate us now we're sticking around. We're not going anywhere. Buds 4 eva :3

We don't really have a reason for why we flirted with spit. Some of us thought it would be funny and some thought it might fluster her into making mistakes. But that is on us not you wretch.
The reason we called you isn't to justify flirting with Spit though it was to let you know that we never meant to hurt you if there is one thing that is certain its that you are better then what we did and that we are sorry.
>>854386
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>854386
Go away.

Wretch, it's mostly because we really do stupid ideas while thinking they are good ideas at the time sometimes. Kind of who we are in some senses. So in this case, the underlying idea was 'Fake interest in her to lower her guard and catch her by surprise.' Problem is it didn't quite work out like we'ed hoped. And yeah, it was still a stupid idea. She's not cool like you, she's just a raging evil...spit.

So we're sorry. Like ridiculously sorry. And we want to make it up to you. We're kind of having a debate as to how to best go about that, but we do want to make it up to you.

>>854390
yes perfect

>>854385
Okay real talk it's because that's a trope in fiction where we're from. Sometimes a roguish hero flirts with the enemy, maybe it's earnest maybe it's mockery, but the important part is that it's a trope and like a running gag it can be hard to resist, for humor value or cool points. We didn't expect to be taken seriously and nobody wanted to hurt you by doing it. I'm sorry, we should have given some thought to what might happen if she tried to tell you what we talked about. Though I am wondering if she exaggerated it? Or showed you edited chat logs?

>>854382
let Jasper figure out what they want to do with the mask and then lets come back to them

>>854385
I'm sorry. I never meant to hurt you, and I didn't think how my actions would affect you.

The apology comes first, justifications and explanations of your actions come after.

>>854385
We are not a creature, but a consensus.

Some want you to gift you a Toblerone, some want to deny you one. Both are our heartfelt desires.
Some of us are sorry, but not all of us are. If you need time to think over this, take it.

>>854385
Wretch, I/We're so sorry. All we were trying to do was try and look confident in front of Spit, maybe try and throw off her game for a sec, gauge how she reacted to It. It was apparent trying to puff up and act aggro against her was gonna be fail.

We know this broke your trust, and we don't expect you to forgive us right away, or any time soon. But, if we can get anything across, it's that the flirting with her was completely facetious. We don't want anything to do with her, and frankly we don't want to be in the same city as her, let alone the same room.

It was all just a dumb idea to try and be tactical, and It was never, EVER a reflection of our feelings towards you Wretch. You've been a wonderful friend to us, and, pardon if this sounds like sucking up, but we're certain you don't deserved one eighth of the shit you get.

We completely understand if you don't want to deal with us for now, but we're going to continue to try and win this, and make sure you do to.

We're rooting for you.

Wretch she calls us up and the first thing she does is just stare at us with that fucking silent glare grin trying to be scary, she obvs gets off on everyone being afraid of her so the first thing we thought of was to act the exact opposite to afraid. We were trying to tease her and piss her off, do you seriously think we'd be anything like attracted to her? You're right we don't know the full extent of the terrible things she's done but you do, and you accept her spreading shit about us without questioning what she's trying to accomplish by it? We know you're smarter than that Wretch, that's why you're talking to us at all, because you knew you couldn't be sure and you were willing to take a chance to find out what was what, even if it's painful for you. You've got guts Wretch don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

We're not blameless, we should have thought how Spit could spin what we did and we should have been more cautious and careful, that's kind of been the story of our life recently. We do care if we hurt people and we do care especially about you, you were the first other god we met and you did right by our dumb newbie ass when you didn't have to and you're real with us and if you're too much for us in any way it's in the best ways. We can't pretend to you we're not fuckups sometimes, because we've got no-one holding the leash in here inside us and when the pressure's on the dumbest most excessive moves come pouring out, and even if we can say that's just the way we are you can sure there's a bunch more mistakes we've made and are going to make the same as anyone else can. That's why we like people getting along so much, why we try to make friends with people and especially why we like you, because we think you really get that people can't perfect and it's good for them to be close and able to help each other, because we all need it, and why we hate someone like Spit who tears things apart and acts like she's invincible. We just wanted to shake her up and chase her off by not acting how she wanted or expected. It was dumb. We're dumb. But we're gonna keep trying to do things she doesn't want us to do and one of those is be your friend even if you're not gonna feel the same way back any more.

This is mostly just a feeling but I get the sense that Wretch is someone who's heard a lot of "I'm sorry"s from various people, and probably doesn't have a lot of patience for them or for that style of contrition any more.

We're disconnected from reality and have short-term memories. We have no loyalty but to ourselves, while honor is an integral part to keeping that loyalty.

We're unpaid amateur mercenaries. It's first come, first serve. If we betray our clients, it's usually because we don't know what we're doing.

So basically? We didn't realize how badly this would affect you. The crowd's full of tiny, weird individuals who might discover this connection one day, and without any context or experience, do something horrible because they don't realize they're pressing a nuke button.

So we're sorry that we're jerks, and traitors, and spontaneous madmen, but that's the void for you - filled with all the things that shouldn't matter. It's how this relationship is going to go if you want to keep us around. But for what it's worth, there's a (disturbing) number of people in this crowd that would stand by you to the bitter end.

They're just the silent type.

>>854386
No.

>>854385
My loyalty is absolute.

We enjoy banter a little too much for our own good. Too many mouths trying to shove out cool one liners or vast walls of justification.

>>854385
We had to go and do that mostly because we didn't have anything else to do. When time passes in chunks of images between hours and even days of waiting, you tend to feel like cracking a few jokes, having a laugh, etcetera. So when we end up face to face with a god-eating psychopath, we don't think, "Oh shit I'm terrified", we think "Alright, so how do we throw her off?" and we come to the conclusion that we should show the polar opposite of fear and gauge how she reacts. We don't exactly think so much as we discuss, and even now we have to decide how to tell you what our thought process is because we don't really have the power to say what comes from the heart.

A large portion of us want to apologize. Another group says we shouldn't. Some of us look to justify our actions; some wish only to accept that we were wrong. We all have different feelings and we can't all show them at once--at least, not well. And we've been waiting months, literally months on our end, to decide on how to fix what we've broken. So, all in all, we hope that you can forgive these kitty-faced motherfuckers.

PS: Some of us think you deserve a big toblerone. I think they're right, but I don't know if gods know what a big toblerone is.

>>854385
Wretch, we honestly wish we already have a physical form. That way we can come to your house and let you punch us in all of our collective faces because we would deserve being punched in all of our faces for being an asshole to you.

If you never want to forgive us, then that's ok, we don't deserve your forgiveness. We just want to let you know that we're sorry.

>>854383
We...

>>854385
Because we're new and stupid but think we're clever.

We tried to find out what makes Spit tick, see if we could get any info or a reaction from her, but it's just spite and hunger all the way down. It lasted all of a couple of sentences, we started snarking at each other pretty quick. I'm pretty sure we pissed her off when we hung up on her mid-rant.

Point is, we weren't even friendly nevermind actually flirting. It was only after the call we confirmed you two had history, otherwise we might have foreseen what she ended up immediately doing: call you up and happily divulge the events in a way most likely to hurt you and by proxy, us.

>>854384
Hey don't you think that, you're awesome! and we did wrong by you, no matter the reasons behind it.

>>854391
I'd try to say more, but this seems to cover what I can think before it becomes a ramble.
Wretch doesn't deserve to feel this pain, and it is on us for having caused them that pain.

we shouldn't try to justify our actions, we should apologise for what they did

"Wretch I am a bad kitty." Void cry.

>>854392 >>854399 >>854454
I like the sentiment of these, we were idiots who somehow got it into our heads that a bad idea was a good one, and as a result we hurt a ally. For that we apologise.

>>854395 >>854398
Regardless of what we were thinking at the time, these just sounds insensitive.

>>854523
Please no.

Wretch we want to apologize, we disregarded you, we hurt you, and our gestalt psyche pains at what we've done.

We were thinking under our own logic and didn't believe collectively our actions would cut you so . We did what came natural to our collective, disjointed self, falling to our lowest, basest behavior that has served us as someone on our own. We didn't take you as seriously as an individual, and ally as we believed we had, and in the process we broke our promise to you. We disrespected you.

We should've have known better, we have (First hand!) knowledge that you are not taken as serious as a person of your stature should be. We flirted with an enemy that you have personal horror stories about, indignantly crossing your very boundaries as a person. We dismissed your discontents as coming from a non-serious standpoint, thinking them mere exaggerations to help us along. We insulted you.

Even now time moves strangely for this side, we have had time to fulminate on how to go forward in less egregious manner. We see now that we cannot be so casual, flippant, and jesting with your enemies, because they are OUR enemies. We should have listened to you more seriously. We want to better treat you better as an equal, in rights as a thinking being, and in many respects, our greater, for being our main connection to your wonderful world. We want to fix what went wrong.

Even if I cannot guarantee that our every word will be perfectly strung together, as I'm sure you are hearing right now, in the end, we want what *you* think is best for you. We are sorry.

"Wretch, no apology or excuse will be enough to make right what we did to you. We want to be your friend, to have you as ours, but we have no impulse control. We will do hurtful things while voices cry out into an echo chamber about what a great idea it is. We want to be your friend, but we can't. Not if we don't want to hurt you. Even if you ever forgive us, even a little, please keep us at arm's reach. We're fire. No matter how well-meaning, we will always end up burning those that get close to us. We don't want to burn you. Not again, not ever. We should have known better. You deserve much better friends than us, Wretch. Real friends who won't make you eat shit and won't even realize it until you're heartbroken."

I would like to tell people to go back and read over our interactions with Wretch and what we know about her again, and then really imagine being in her place and listening to some of this stuff y'all are coming out with. Or just imagine someone saying these to you yourself, I don't think you even need to account for Wretch's personality to get the idea but if you do I think a lot of it's even worse.

>>854557
Well, I mean...we're really fucking sorry and we want to make that exceedingly clear. Not sure how else to put that.

>>854572
This.

We're friends Wretch, we ain't married.
We can flit with who we want.

Besides, Why so glum about it?
We're gonna kill her in the end anyway.
She looks delicious.

>>854572

There's such a thing as taking it too far. Past a certain point if you keep piling on your apologies they quickly start sounding fake and insincere, especially if you've flowered them up too much.

Also, Wretch in particular seems like 1) someone who wants others to be straight with her, because she's been manipulated in the past, 2) someone who doesn't like others trying too hard to take care of her or treating her like a burden (see "am i too fucking much for you"), which is an impression you can easily get off someone who acts TOO considerate of your feelings like you're some sort of ticking time bomb, and 3) someone who probably knows what it's like to fuck up herself, and a person who's been through that doesn't like to see other people writhing in contrition because it reminds them of being in that emotional space themselves.

>>854582
Would you shut up?! You're not helping!

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You let Jasper know you’re going to be a little bit, but you do want to talk to them later. They quietly say alright, and continue fiddling with the mask. You focus entirely on Wretch. This is important.

Your head is an absolute disaster, collective thoughts slamming against each other and a what feels like a million voices screaming at once. Thankfully, there’s some degree of consensus, and you start talking as best as you can.

VOIDSY: I’m...no, we’re sorry.
VOIDSY: We’re sorry that we’re jerks so much of the time, and we’re sorry for just. Everything.
VOIDSY: We have a lot of inner turmoil on what to apologize for, but the great majority of this collective nightmare feel guilty, and you don’t deserve this. You don’t deserve the way you’ve been treated, by anyone.
VOIDSY: We should have given some thought to what might happen if she tried to tell you what we talked about-

WRETCH: yeah i bet youre fucking sorry about that
WRETCH: sorry for getting caught
VOIDSY: Wretch, she might have spun it to hurt you-
WRETCH: yr “smitten with her grin”
WRETCH: she’s looking trim huh
WRETCH: good puppy, play nice
WRETCH: you gonna deny any of that??? you gonna come up to me and say thats all lies? what’s the fucking deal, voidsy

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VOIDSY: We’re...jerks. There’s so many of us, and we keep trying to shove out cool one liners and the dumbest, most excessive moves. We’re so disconnected from reality itself, our memory sucks and honestly?
VOIDSY: We’re not sure how to fix that.
VOIDSY: It’s part of being a consensus, a collective, it’s...who we are.
VOIDSY: And we’re sorry you have to deal with that.

VOIDSY: We were just trying to bait her.
VOIDSY: We were trying to look confident, acting aggressive directly in her face wasn’t going to work.
VOIDSY: Maybe shaking her off, fake interest, anything- we tried to be tactical about it.
VOIDSY: It was a bait to piss her off and it's backfired.
VOIDSY: It backfired and hurt you. It was never meant to be a reflection of how we feel about you.



VOIDSY: We gotta take the blame on this.
VOIDSY: It was dumb.
VOIDSY: We’re dumb.
WRETCH: ……
VOIDSY: We wish we had a physical form, just we could visit you and let you punch us in our face. All of our collective faces.

Wretch smiles and snickers, just a little bit, before keeping her face serious again.

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VOIDSY: We never meant to hurt you like this. A lot of us are trying to justify what we did, but we’re not calling you for that.
VOIDSY: You’re good to our dumb newbie ass, and we care about people, but especially you.
VOIDSY: It wasn’t meant as a serious thing, it wasn’t even a long call, just a few sentences.
VOIDSY: It was facetious, meant to be more threatening than anything-

You stop yourself and consider your words.

VOIDSY: But...if we knew how badly it’d affect you, we never would have done it.
VOIDSY: I don’t know if we can find enough words to express that. To express how sorry we are.

She’s still silent, but avoiding eye contact at this point. Your thoughts get louder and louder, and the words are hard to put together.

VOIDSY: ….
VOIDSY: Our...our loyalty, it’s absolute.
VOIDSY: Even if you don’t want us to be friends anymore, we’re not going to just leave.
VOIDSY: We’re going to be here for you, and we’re going to win.

VOIDSY: We’re a fucking mess, and we can’t always guarantee we’re going to be good to you, some of the people in here are real assholes.
VOIDSY: If you need to keep us at arm’s reach, we get it.
VOIDSY: We don’t know how to stop burning everyone close to us.
VOIDSY: We want to make this right, and we want to get our shit together.

VOIDSY: Please, Wretch.
VOIDSY: Please.

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WRETCH: i really wanna believe you
WRETCH: i really do
WRETCH: i really wanna have you as a bud and not feel like this
WRETCH: but
WRETCH: was flirting with me just a joke? some kinda tactic?
WRETCH: just a fuckin way to get me to do what you want
WRETCH: cause i just
WRETCH: i really
WRETCH: i really dont want that to be what this is
WRETCH: i get it all the time and im so tired voidsy im so fuckin tired
WRETCH: im so fuckin tired of people
WRETCH: using me. not takin me seriously. im not a game to play
WRETCH: i don’t wanna be just a toy for you

She starts choking up again, clearly struggling.

WRETCH: not like i am for her.

>>854599
Nope. Simple as that. You were cool and funny, so we wanted to be friends.

>>854387 >>854388 >>854392 >>854594
I get the impression Wretch doesn't like people being fake with her, so it's good that you're showing her how nasty you really are. Maybe our avatar should have been a barrel of toxic waste - but I guess Wretch took that motif already.
Stop worrying about your neighbor's comment and post what you think is right, not who you think is wrong.

>>854599
It was never a joke.
It was never just some tactic.
You are our first and dearest friend. The pain we've caused you is tearing us apart inside.
Spit will pay. She needs to die for what and who she is, but she will pay for what she's done to you, Wretch.
We promise you.

>>854599
No Wretch you are THE BUD! The best. the one we care for above anyone else. If it comes down to it we might even give our own life for you. We want to do better by you but we are very confused almost all the time if you ever feel like we have gone and done something wrong please tell us so we can try to fix it no matter how small it may seem.
(Voidsy if you don't cry with Wretch I swear I will slap us over the head with a mask.)

>>854599
Nope. Slime is cool, crunching bones and twisting flesh are not.
Also you're a way better person than she is.

Hey I think there was a misunderstanding at one point; would you mind telling us how whores are treated in your world?

>>854605
>Hey I think there was a misunderstanding at one point; would you mind telling us how whores are treated in your world?
Let's not say this.

>>854605
Shhhh, let sleeping cultural misapprehensions lie.

To answer your question: Yes, it was fun, but as you can see now we've got skin in the game. Perhaps too much. The aim of the game is to play with you, not play you.
The only thing we will ask of you is this: Will you put on a happy face for your tinycats? You can borrow one of ours. We weren't using it anyway.

>>854599
Listen, Spit is a piece of shit and you're not. As far as we're concerned, we should be buds, but we're not so fucked up in the head to want to be buds with Spit. Especially since she wants to eat our faces.

When we first met you we thought you were gonna be a bitch, and i think we used flirting as a tactic, but as we actually did get to know you the flirting became serious and we really cared for you, still do care for you in fact.
I don’t think we would care as much about winning if you weren’t here. If we lost the cats would die and so would we but the worst part of it is that we wouldn’t get to be with you anymore.

Here’s an idea: from now on whenever we will answer any question you ask to the best of our ability, if we ever forget this for any reason, then remind us. Don’t let us forget.

>>854599
Ok, that's it!

When we get a body, we're definitely going to give you a hug after we let you punch us in all of our collective faces!

>>854602
>Insulting Wretch's appearance when the rest of us are trying to apologize.
Oh, hi, Spit! No one invited you, so would you kindly fuck off? Thanks!

>>854605
Don't say that.

I already know the answer to that question via outside sources of information. The question would be answered partially to Wretch's benefit, since it would lead to a conversation about differences between our worlds, most likely.

Pull it together guys!

Flirting was just our auto response to new individuals, to know more about them. And even after that we would like to know more about you, but alas now is not the time.

We have a war to fight, so if your up for it right now, or very soon, we would like to begin preparing for the storm.

>>854599
We weren't sure what to make of you at first. Bad first impression you had no choice in. From what the game told us in your puzzle, we expected you to be - well, to be like how Spit is.

Instead, you were found to be someone worth aligning with.

Man, we weren't even thinking about tactics back then. We didn't even know there was a game to be won. That was just us being us, and you being you, and us getting on great, which is how it should be.

Wretch....
Flirting when we first met wasn't appropriate. We're seeing now that from what you've gone through that it can hurt you. That doesn't change that we do experience a genuine attraction to you, and we enjoy your company. It doesn't change that we fucked up big. We didn't listen to you enough when you took the time to be patient and even friendly with us, and open up to tell us about what you've gone through.
You are a person, and you have friends who care about you. We vow that we'll put everything on the line to prevent Spit from hurting you again.

>>854605
Can you get the fuck out of this Collective?
Like even if you're seriously wanting to learn about how a group of people are treated where she comes from, if we win this game we can find that out for ourselves at a library or some shit.
Maybe separate being sexually open from sexwork, and then separate sexwork from derogatory shit.

>>854638
Yeah, this.
We're still just as much of a dumb newbie as we were sending our kitties to dick around in the forest.

>>854599
We made friends with you before we even knew there was a game.
And we don't regret it, never will.
We would and apparently did risk angering Spit over it, despite everyone having made it clear how crazy and stupid that is.
Turns out we're stupid and crazy, if having one of the scariest gods in the pantheon gunning for us is the price of choosing to hang out with you instead of playing Spit's game, I'll pay and leave a tip.

First time I met you, I was creeped out. You seemed like a hostile entity, intent on snuffing our tiny cat people out of existence just as easily as they had been materialized.

But you were so nice.

We did what we always do and talked like nuts. You listened. We made rude compliments and called you dirty names in an asinine plot to earn your favor. You wanted to keep us all to yourself.

I called you a whore.
You said we were the sweetest thing.

You were friendly despite our cacophonous, mindless, heartless jittering. Being your friend is almost mandatory, given the level of patience and love you've shown us.

>>854685
>Maybe separate being sexually open from sexwork, and then separate sexwork from derogatory shit.
b1b4f3 probably meant it as a joke, since Wretch took 'whore' as a compliment last time. It was perhaps in poor timing, but the entire rest of their post was positive towards your sludge waifu. There's no reason to be this toxic towards that suggester.

1/3 mortis 2017/12/30(Sat)15:48 No. 854789 ID: 8a251a
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VOIDSY: We...flirting was…

There’s a lot of conflicting noise.

VOIDSY: It wasn’t a joke, or a tactic, not entirely- it’s just...what we’re used to. It’s automatic, at this point.
VOIDSY: But that didn’t make it right.
VOIDSY: We fucked up and hurt you bad. Our apology doesn’t change that.
VOIDSY: You’ve gone through so much, and even though we still don’t have the full picture, it’s wrong to treat anyone like that….but especially not you.

VOIDSY: When we first met, we thought you might be cruel, or hostile.
VOIDSY: The puzzle gives a pretty unfair representation of you, and we shouldn’t have judged right away like that.
VOIDSY: You had no hand in making that, and we’re thrilled to get to know the real you.
VOIDSY: And the real you is genuinely good.

WRETCH: no
WRETCH: im not GOOD
WRETCH: im just some little slut who isnt useful to anybody unless i give em shit
WRETCH: its the only way i get people to like me
WRETCH: or any attention at all
WRETCH: everybody tells me its not a bad thing to be like this but
WRETCH: even you called me shit when you met me and i liked it a little and thats fucked up
WRETCH: im fucked up
WRETCH: this is the only way i matter
WRETCH: i dont know if i can fix it

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VOIDSY: Wretch…
VOIDSY: You aren’t fucked up.
VOIDSY: Spit is a piece of shit.
VOIDSY: You’re not.
VOIDSY: You’re patient, and friendly, and nice.
VOIDSY: You put up with our mindless jittering and we fucked up, we didn’t listen to you even when you opened up as much as you did.

VOIDSY: We are genuinely attracted to you, we enjoy your company, and your friendship is important to us.
VOIDSY: We don’t regret being friends with you, and we wanted to be your buds even before we knew there was a game.
VOIDSY: We will never be friends with Spit, ever.
VOIDSY: All of this shit she’s done, she’s going to pay for it.
VOIDSY: But especially for what she’s done to you.
VOIDSY: We will put everything on the line to keep it from happening again.

WRETCH: i dont know if anyone can kill her
WRETCH: i know i cant
WRETCH: even if i really want to
WRETCH: even if she deserves it
WRETCH: shes chokin me and theres nothin i can do and i cant even tell people without riskin everybody dying
WRETCH: idk how you can like me when i got this much fuckin baggage and her hands round my neck
WRETCH: no one else would

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VOIDSY: We will.
VOIDSY: We’re going to help you, especially with getting out of this.
VOIDSY: Please tell us if we fuck up again. We don’t want to keep hurting you.
VOIDSY: From now on? We’re an open book. We’ll answer pretty much anything you have to ask.
VOIDSY: You’re our best friend.
VOIDSY: Don’t let us forget that.
VOIDSY: And swear to god, when we’re physical, we’re going to hug you
VOIDSY: After you punch us in the face.

She starts laughing again, a little less reserved about showing it this time.

VOIDSY: You make us care about winning and getting to be by your side.
VOIDSY: Let’s do this. Together.

WRETCH: ...ok.
WRETCH: idk if its a good idea but
WRETCH: ok
WRETCH: ill stick with you
WRETCH: but please dont treat me bad again
WRETCH: i know i deserve it but i dont like it and i want to be happy with you
WRETCH: i really want this to work

>>854792
change a mask into a shape of Wretch and Void hugging.

Three things:
1.you don’t deserve shit so stop saying you do.
2.we want this to work too and we’ll keep trying until it does.
3.spit’s a bitch and we’re gonna fuck her up together.

>>854716
Prostitutes are treated well in morbit. That is the misunderstanding I was referring to. Treating Wretch like one would in fact be sweet.

>>854792
We'll do our best. Hey maybe all you needed was someone from outside of morbit?

Now that things are calming down with Wretch we can talk to Jasper at the same time.

yeah i think its time to talk to jasper now, say a quick see ya later to wretch and then handle other emotionally distressed friends

>>854797

See line Wretch 7
>>854789

Perhaps we should stop calling people whores, just in general now?

Anyways Wretch, what do you say we prove our willingness to change by enacting "Operation: Giant Toblerone" and meeting with the other gods to discuss future additions, and strategies.

>>854799
I wasn't calling her one. In the first conversation we had with her, kome asked if she wanted to be treated like one, and she responded by saying we were sweet.

Now kiss.

>>854801
I didn't say you did, I was just countering any misconception that this is a bad way of thinking about this.

And asking if someone wants to be treated like a whore is basically calling them a whore, in the same way you can do so with calling someone a "princess", "baby", etc. as if they weren't displaying qualities related in our eyes, we wouldn't ask

>>854803
that this a good way of thinking about this*
that one typo makes a world of difference

>>854797
I don't think we've seen anything that's indicated how well prostitutes are treated in this world, but regardless it's irrelevant to our situation. Ask in ITQ or questdis, as I don't think asking here will end well.

>even you called me shit when you met me and i liked it a little and thats fucked up
That shows that was we said to Wretch would normally be considered insulting in this world, but for some reason she liked it (And considers that to be fucked up). Given that we've now confirmed whore is a insult, let's not call people that in the future.

Thank Wretch and say it's time to win this game, then end the call and talk to Jasper.

>VOIDSY: After you punch us in the face.
We have a lot of punchable faces!

>WRETCH: but please dont treat me bad again
I promise I'll only treat you bad if that's some weird sex thing you're into.

>>854792
So do we, love.

>>854792
You don't deserve shit from anyone, least of all us. Once we win this game, things are going to change.

We should hold a strategy meeting soon. There's no group call function, but we were able to hear you through Eastwood's call before, so if you and him could get in the same room while Eastwood calls Miller and you call us, we might be able to sort of simulate one.

Now would be a good time to talk to Jasper as well.

>>854807
Regardless of what Wretch is into it's irrelevant at the moment, and asking about it at this point in time is a bad idea. Saying that is in blatant disregard of what she just said. So let's cool in on the flirty talk and win this game.

>>854818
I think its best we figure out exactly how gods work, in extreme detail before formulating any large plans.

>WRETCH: i dont know if anyone can kill her

well

Maybe this is something we shouldn't talk about, but

Gods have their motifs, right? Something core to them that they have power over regardless of what their job is. And, we can't sure but maybe one of our motifs might be... nothing? Nothingness. Absences. Hollows. Spaces where something is missing. Voids. And gods need followers, right? That's what keeps us alive. Part of why we get our TCPs when we win is so they'll be our first followers, and we won't just starve to death instantly.

so

if we win

and Spit comes after us, which she wants to

we could, maybe

possibly

make a space where whatever it is that passes from a gods followers to them, what keeps them alive, what keeps Spit alive

isn't there?

Where she is.

And then she chokes.

>>854820

Well, it's just an idea of a possibility. But it can be good to keep possibilities in mind.

We need to tell Wretch about the Unhallowed Sanctuary, too. Was there anything else we had to tell her about, apart from our various feelings?

>>854818
Hush now. Loose lips sink ships.

>>854792
Alright, now that we've picked up our spaghetti, what the hell were we even doing?

Wretch, please, remember what we said. Even if we don't ever want to hurt you, it will inevitably happen. Please remember to keep us distant enough that it won't devastate you, and knock some sense into us when it does. You deserve a much better friend than we as a collective can be, and keeping us as one will be more work than someone as patient and kind, as plainly wonderful, like you should have to put into a friendship. If - when - we meet, don't settle for one punch.

>>854792
There it is! There's that smile!

>>854807
>I promise I'll only treat you bad if that's some weird sex thing you're into.
Don't say that! She'll just think we're using her for sex! Which we're not!

>>854821
Can we please not talk about that right now? Let's focus on planning how to beat Spit in this game first.

And don't forget that Spit is under the protection of a more powerful god. We don't want to piss them off.

Wretch, is it ok to say that we want to help you get to a place where you don't feel that way?
I'm talking about the whole "I deserve to be treated badly" thing, because, you deserve better than us, and you deserve better than you've been treated in your life.
You deserve to be able to feel safe and happy, and we're gonna do everything to make that happen.

And, we know it's bad timing, but do you have any tips on helping our new cat, Jasper? They're a bit uncomfortable and afraid with the world they were brought into, and it didn't help we were a bit overbearing at the start of their life (overload with teaching, not a diff type).
If you're not comfortable with us asking you right now, it is no issue and we'll call up Eastwood or Miller later.

>>854792
your smile is wonderful Wretch.

Let's pay attention to Jasper real quick; if he's 'bout to put on the mask, we should know what we want to say I think.

We made the Unhollowed Sanctuary, by the way.

>>855216
Did we? I don't think we ever got around to it.

>>855224

We did, I checked.

>>855224
Yes, we did. There's an underground entrance connected to our base.

Now that we have made the Unhallowed Sanctuary we need to set up so that spit attacks straight away to draw her into it (Divide and conquer). During the attack send your TCPs down into is depths to separate spit from her minions and stop her from influencing your people via a death mark, from there you're guys can do their stuff and talk the enemies down so they stop attacking / go rogue.

>>855375

We don't know exactly what's down there, though, that's kind of the idea. Since we specified "sanctuary" it should be safe, that's pretty critical to the definition of a sanctuary, but still, this game has had a habit of filling in its own details in the things we create. We don't know where its other exits are, how well furnished/supplied it is, were there any creatures put down there, if there's a bunch more puzzles and riddles and not-entirely-trustworthy information, et cetera. Being an "unholy" area may have side-effects we don't know about, too, though Eastwood didn't seem to anticipate any. We'll need to equip our TCPs as best we can and ask them to go explore carefully. Maybe a rope leading back to the exit, and some non-divine way of staying in contact?

>>855375
We need to prepare our cats to be able to fight back if they need to, so that they're not completely helpless if this plan doesn't work. It's better to be prepared for if the plan fails instead of being unprepared for when it fails!

>>855377
>Don't know what's down there.
It'd be nice if we could take a look to see what our cats would be dealing with, so that we can prepare them for what to do when they become separated from us when they go down there.

Like, it'll still be a "no godly influence" area, but make it more like a "gods can look, but not interact" area.

>>855380

Well, part of the idea is that the Unhallowed Sanctuary is taking advantage of Spit's usual tactics (we've been told about) by making trust in one's TCPs paramount. Basically, we're trying to turn TCP affection/loyalty into a big factor for success in this game, and betting that Spit will be worse at that than we are, thereby giving us an advantage.

We should install more things like that, actually.

We should not only be incapable of interfering there, but incapable of judging and incapable of knowing what happens down there. So, if any of Spit's TCPs go down there, not only can she not tell them what to do, they'll be able to do what they like and she won't know about it when they come back up. There's a sort of a two-pronged thing going on where, first and best case we'd like to convert her TCPs, but even if we can't convert them the second advantageous case is that despite their hypothetical staying loyal Spit won't be certain anymore how loyal they are. Spit seems like the controlling sort, and not being able to be SURE what her TCPs have seen or said or done for any period of time will really bother her, I think, as will the knowledge that her TCPs will know a way to escape her. So it needs to be a place she can't see, as well as not interact, and for the sake of game balance that has to apply to us as well.

So, we're also adding an element of "how happy are you not knowing/being in control of everything" as a success factor in this game, which again we're betting we'll be better at than Spit.

... We might want to be careful about that, now I think of it again. Rigging a game against someone by the majority of players deliberately choosing to include challenges "for everyone" that they know a specific player is bad at is kind of a form of cheating, or at least unfairness. But on the other hand, the nature of the game is that we're creating it as we go along and competing/cooperating for advantages as we do, so isn't that a legitimate tactic? Aren't we supposed to be doing that? I'm sure Spit will be trying to do it as much as she's able. Maybe we should ask Wretch about that too, she should have a decent idea what brings down the referee's wrath.

Anyway, the best case scenario is that we can lure Spit's TCPs down there before she even knows the Sanctuary exists (and we should ask Wretch if she felt or became aware of anything when we created the sanctuary, like an entrance to it in her territory, so we know whether the other gods can know about it without being told), because the moment she does know about it she'll probably come up with some way around it, like a helmet with a constant video feed and communications so she can effectively still see and command her TCPs in there. If the Sanctuary doesn't have any sort of communications jamming device or effect already, we might need to consider making one and having our TCPs bring it down, though it'll mean we can't look in there ourselves. Maybe we can check it out before then.

In any case, we want them to map it out, see where the other entrances/exits are, and install some nonlethal capture-style traps and tricks, as well as other kinds of security if it lacks them. Assuming it's possible. We don't know what's down there. I assume there are other entrances and exits, but maybe it's only under us? We presented it to Eastwood with the idea that it would be shared among us, if I recall right. I forget how territory restrictions on creations work. We probably couldn't create anything in Spit's territory, but the other gods are our allies, and I feel like there was some formal sense of being allied that merged territories or something? Maybe they have to choose to create links/paths to it themselves? The concept of the Unhallowed Sanctuary was supposed to draw from Voidsy's particular strengths, but maybe just building an addition to what we've laid the foundation and core for is easier.

>>855384
If an alliance of players in this game are NOT allowed to design areas that benefit themselves and hamper those not in their alliance, what's the damn point?

I do agree that we should determine if it would risk the wrath of the referee but the fewer people we have to discuss this particular issue with the better.

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You consider a plan to kill Spit, and it seems solid- but you want some more information about gods first. You’re not really sure what being a god in this world entails, let alone whether you could pull off something that elaborate. You make a note to ask someone later.

You go back to multitasking, checking in on Jasper. They say that they do want to put the mask on and talk to you, but...they want your full attention. If you’re busy right now, it can wait. They have a lot of questions, but they don’t want half answers. If they’re going to fight for you, they want to know exactly what’s at stake here.

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VOIDSY: There it is!
VOIDSY: You have a wonderful smile, Wretch.
VOIDSY: We want this to work too, love. We won’t give up until it does- and we want to keep you smiling.

She’s a little embarrassed, but her smile does get wider.

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VOIDSY: Don’t talk about yourself like that, either.
VOIDSY: You don’t deserve shit from anyone, especially not us. We don’t want to hurt you, but knowing us...it’s inevitable.
VOIDSY: We care about you so much, but it’s going to be rough.
VOIDSY: What you deserve is a much better friend, and better treatment than you’ve got all around.
VOIDSY: So, if and when we fuck up- don’t stop at one punch. Give us hell, and we’ll do our best to fix it.
WRETCH: ok
WRETCH: im not a hard hitter but i wont let you get away with it if it happens again!!
WRETCH: were gonna try to make this work
VOIDSY: We are, for sure.

VOIDSY: Are you okay with us saying that we want to get you to a place where you don’t feel this way?
WRETCH: idk if that could ever happen tbh
WRETCH: i got
WRETCH: issues. a lot of em
WRETCH: but i can try.

4/6 mortis 2018/01/01(Mon)23:44 No. 855401 ID: 8a251a
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VOIDSY: Might be a bad time, but our new cat’s having issues.
VOIDSY: Jasper’s having a really hard time getting comfortable, and we were wondering if you have any tips.
VOIDSY: We were...kind of overbearing, and they’re pretty overwhelmed right now.
WRETCH: well hmmmm
WRETCH: kinda having a similar thing happen with jetter
WRETCH: hes my new kitty and uhhh i prrrobably shouldnt have made a weapon type bc hes really really nervous and harsh on himself
WRETCH: i mean thats probably not bc hes a weapon type but its a really bad combo and im a lil worried hes gonna end up hurting himself
WRETCH: but i got him to calm down a lil by givin him some stuff hed like and talked bout what he wants to do
WRETCH: i think hell be a REALLY GOOD fighter but like
WRETCH: i guess hes got issues just like me

VOIDSY: We also made an Unhallowed Sanctuary- it’s an area where all the TCPs can meet without any god supervision.
VOIDSY: We’re hoping it may help with talking Spit’s TCPs into not killing us, honestly.
WRETCH: OH YEA
WRETCH: eastwood told me bout that
WRETCH: sounds cool as shit
WRETCH: im down

VOIDSY: One more thing-
VOIDSY: We have an idea on how to have a group call- it’s a bit bullshitty, but it could work.
VOIDSY: You and Eastwood get in the same room, we call you and Eastwood calls Miller.
VOIDSY: If Eastwood cranks his volume up enough, we can pull it off.
WRETCH: huh
WRETCH: thats super smart??? we can definitely try

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WRETCH: YO EASTWOOD
EASTWOOD: WHAT
EASTWOOD: KINDA BUSY
WRETCH: VOIDSY FIGURED OUT A GROUP CALL THING
You hear a door slam and a lot of shuffling.

6/6 mortis 2018/01/01(Mon)23:45 No. 855403 ID: 8a251a
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Wretch fusses with something in front of her, and Eastwood comes into frame, a floating interface in front of him. The rest of the room starts to come into focus as well, and you realize you’re seeing Wretch’s home for the first time.

EASTWOOD: Let’s hear it.

You relay your plan, and he lets it sink in for a few minutes.

EASTWOOD: Hm.
EASTWOOD: Yeah, worth a shot.
EASTWOOD: Would be a hell of a help if it worked. I’ll call Miller up- what kind of shit do you want to talk about once we get rolling?

>>855403
>heart-shaped fairy lights
Rad

spit's weaknesses and how fuckin cute wretch's room is

>>855403
Well, we were-

>Wretch fusses with something in front of her, and Eastwood comes into frame, a floating interface in front of him. The rest of the room starts to come into focus as well, and you realize you’re seeing Wretch’s home for the first time.
Woah, ok, that's disorienting! Uh, normally there's only a big wall of red behind Wretch when we call her. But now we can actually see something else. It looks like a room with.....flashing heart shaped lights hanging overhead? Awww, that's adorable!

.....what were we talking about again? Oh, right, the plan! I, uh, don't remember what it was. I only know that we were gonna somehow use the Unhallowed Sanctuary. Hang on a sec, let me ask the other voices.

Hey, do the rest of you floating masks remember what the plan was?

>>855405
Plus ways of using the sanctuary to our advantage against spit like baiting her TCPs down there and ofcorse overall strategies for this “game”. It’s always good to have a real time planning session so you can get things set up and ready for when the fighting starts. It’ll also help in coordinating your TCPs with each other so they become a unified force against the forces of destruction and rampant murder.

I mean first god Wretch those heart shaped fairly lights, that's very much Your Brand

But yeah like, for instance our TCP's can enter the sanctuary without supervision. I think we should look at every strategy we have so far and look at how it can be probed for weaknesses.
For instance the Sanctuary has no supervision, and that doesn't stop Spit from telling her TCP's to go in and set up booby traps for whoever enters in after. I don't know if TCP's can become immobilized, but the biggest risk is if a kill command is given before someone goes in, combined with that.

It's shit like that we should probably use group calls to anticipate shit for, and group calls should be started the second that someone gets ambushed or their base gets besieged.
Also planning backup shit like, Three Lights at each base. They represent the other players, and glow when, say, non-allied tcp's or enemies are at the base.
I guess combat strats and synergy too. This may be 4v1, but the last thing we want is shit like friendly fire, or being all over the place against a coordinated team.

>>855409
Can the Unhallowed Sanctuary stop KILL commands on targets inside? If so we should make sure the TCPs know not to take mortally injured units out before they are healed.

I wanna talk strategy. I've got a few systems I'd like in depth explanations on before we try to manipulate them, and I've got some ideas I'd like to run past y'all.

Firstly, we should be in constant contact. There's no reason not to just keep this call going indefinitely even when no one's talking (ironically we'll have to dip for a hot minute after this to talk to Jasper, but that's neither here nor there), it'll allow us to coordinate better and respond faster to any threats.
Secondly, we should become tactically unified. Make sure we're all on the same tech level, share ideas, make our bases all have all the same supplies so that if a group runs out of whatever stuff they're using they can always pop over to the nearest base and get more. It'd be best to have our cats go through joint training together, but we can at least get them all familiar with each other and TEACH them the same things. We should be thinking of this team as one big group of 20 rather than four groups of 5, as such we should probably discuss what TCPs we're going to make and see if we can't get some additional synergy going, though I get the impression this might be a somewhat personal topic.
Lastly, maybe one of us should keep their last TCP slot open indefinitely, as a last resort against Spit. If shit goes completely south we can spawn an overpowered abstract tcp and have it kill her. The temporary loss of one cat won't hurt our overwhelming numbers advantage much, and I don't trust her not to do something equally game-breaking once she starts losing.

As for questions... Can we get an in-depth explanation on the TCP defection system? (Use the specific questions from >>/questdis/110850 if they aren't answered in the course of the explanation.) And could you also explain as much as you can about admin intervention, like what triggers it and what it actually does? The devil's in the details.

Is there anything y'all can do to keep yourselves safe from Spit attacking you IRL? Have you fortified your house? Can you move somewhere else?

>>855495
There's nothing stopping us from strapping body-cams to the cats. We may have made the Unhallowed Sanctuary, but that doesn't mean we can't try to circumvent it's rules ourselves. We can put an airport security style checkpoint in front of the sanctuary to keep Spit from doing the same.

>>855522
If we try doing that, the Admin might step in and balance the game so that Spit will also be allowed have body-cams on her cats!

Well, first, are you all safe? Spit isn't going to assault any of you where you are, is she? We want to be sure none of you are in danger. If there's any risk, then maybe we need to start applying some low but steady pressure to Spit right now, so she has to stay at her station.

Relating to punishment - how likely is it that we'll get some sort of comeuppance if we try rig the game against Spit by making a lot of trials/obstacles/et cetera that she's (hopefully) bad at? Is it ok so long as everyone has a theoretical chance at success and failure? Could we do something like create a PLAYDATE PRIZE VOTE TEMPLE where the TCPs all go in and play fun cooperative and competitive games and at the end they all vote anonymously on which TCPs were the most fun friend and the TCPs who get voted the funnest nicest ones gets the biggest rewards? I mean I'm not sure exactly how that specific idea would work, but stuff like that where we set up things we expect Spit to be bad at to be disproportionately important, is that likely to attract the balance hammer?

Third, we should organize exploration of the Unhallowed Sanctuary together. You all need to be the ones to tell your own TCPs about it, since one of the ideas behind it iss to build trust from our TCPs by showing we trust them. I'd really like to see what's down there but for full effect long-term I think we need to deny as much indirect divine access and influence down there as possible, as well as the existing direct denial. For the TCPs to really feel they can do whatever they want down there in total freedom and safety, they need to be sure we can't even know what happens down there if they don't tell us, not just that we can't interfere. So, if it doesn't have any form of protection against technological or magical reconnaissance, we should create something that our TCPs can bring down there to do that. But first we need to give our TCPs whatever they need to go down and explore it safely. We should leave it up to them what they want to tell us about it, of course.

Fourth and finally, we have some masks to give you! Everyone should get their own god mask, except Spit obviously. Her mask we'll put down in the Sanctuary to tempt her into sending her cats down there. The Wax mask we'll put down there as well, if you need it hopefully it won't be too long a journey for your cats to go fetch it for you. We'll keep the mask of courage, which isn't technically a Void mask but we have no real face of our own, only masks, so probably we can't make a real mask of ourselves anyway.

Hmm. Fourth, addendum: I wonder if we can make masks of any gods that aren't directly involved in the game? I mean, the whole purpose of a mask is to invoke the presence/essence of someone who isn't there themselves, right? Even people who maybe, uh, in a sense aren't anywhere, any more. If you guys told us the name and a description of another god, maybe showed us a picture of their face, photo or drawn or whatever, we could try it? For the sake of experimentation?

>>855538
In response to #4, we have a Wax mask. Wax isn't present currently in the game, at least not really, so it's worth a shot definitely.
Also, I can imagine a Voidsy mask. It'd essentially be maskception, but still.

>>855839

Well, he's sort of a presence in the game. As for a voidsy mask, a mask of a mask isn't a mask of the person wearing the mask!

By the way, I wonder if we should talk to our allied gods about potential conversions within our ranks. It'd be nice to tell our TCPs they can convert to our allies if they think they'd be happier with them.

>>855881
Not really how it works. They can go Rogue, but to my knowledge they can't join anyone again once their Rogue. It's a disadvantage that serves little purpose, particularly when morale isn't even close to low enough to justify it.

Voting that we should not try to circumvent the Unhallowed Sanctuary's purpose of being completely isolated from gods. God-created items probably won't function in there anyway, aside from their mundane properties.

>>855403
Beating Spit, obviously. Also, anything else that you guys think is important.

has anyone actually won against spit, and if so, what do you know about what went down?

1/6 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)01:48 No. 858734 ID: fb45d4
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VOIDSY: Whoa, that’s new!
VOIDSY: Your room is absolutely adorable, we love the lights.
VOIDSY: Very on brand.
WRETCH: thannkkkssss
EASTWOOD: You just can’t see the mess. The rest of the warehouse is a nightmare.
WRETCH: you make half of the trash asshole
WRETCH: im still findin ping pong balls everywhere

Eastwood grumps a bit, smoke flaring up before calling Miller. You can’t hear her super well, but she’s audible enough to make this work.

MILLER: Hi Voidsy!!
MILLER: What’s up?
VOIDSY: Planning for war, we guess.
MILLER: We got this! I know my team will do whatever it takes to ensure a victory- we have to get you safe and sound in our world!
VOIDSY: It’s...appreciated. Thank you.
EASTWOOD: Let’s get moving, we can be mushy after.

VOIDSY: Right, so...
VOIDSY: These calls are gonna be crucial, real time planning sessions will help us coordinate both ourselves and our TCPs.
VOIDSY: There’s no reason for us to hop off call, even when no one’s talking.
VOIDSY: We will have to dip out for a hot minute after this to talk to one of our cats, but in the long fun, we should stay in touch.
VOIDSY: We need group calls to anticipate shit for, and at the very least, we need to have them running the second someone gets ambushed.
WRETCH: easy enough
WRETCH: if east or i gotta hop off we can talk in the house
MILLER: I’ve got nothing going on, so I doubt I’ll have to leave for anything.
MILLER: You can count on me to help out!
EASTWOOD: I’m for it.

VOIDSY: We also need to be tactically unified.
VOIDSY: We have to share ideas, make sure we’re on the same tech level, and keep our base supplies consistent- that way, if any of us run out of whatever we’re using, we can restock at eachothers’ bases.
VOIDSY: We also need joint training, and regular meetups. Keeping them familiar with eachother and making sure they have the same basic skills, that’ll help a ton.
VOIDSY: Thinking about the team as a group of 20...it feels like the right way to go.
EASTWOOD: Yeah, sounds about right. We can go over what we have and what we should make when we’ve got a general gist of what to do.
VOIDSY: We do have some ideas to start with, though. They’d be good no matter what.
EASTWOOD: We’ll see about that. Lay it on us.

2/3 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)01:49 No. 858736 ID: fb45d4
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VOIDSY: Okay, we have this goofy idea.
VOIDSY: We want to create a “Playdate Prize Vote Temple” where our cats can go in, play some games together, and vote anonymously on who should get prizes- they all get stuff, of course, but the nicest ones get rewarded for cooperating.
EASTWOOD: I don’t think-
MILLER: YES!! YES
MILLER: OHHH THATD BE SO CUTE….
WRETCH: im downnnn
EASTWOOD: ….fine. We make the temple that has zero use to us in the long run.
MILLER: You’re a grump, it has plenty of uses!
MILLER: We need to keep morale up, they’re going to be going through a lot...it’d not only be fun, but good for their psyches.
MILLER: I’ll make it on my base, if it helps. You can keep your stuff playtime free.
EASTWOOD: Fine, fine. We’ll see how it goes.
VOIDSY: We also have masks to share- they have a lot of different effects.

You explain the masks, and everyone takes some time to let it settle in.

VOIDSY: We should give everybody their own masks- that’ll probably work best with everybody.
VOIDSY: We could even bribe Spit with her mask...it seems like something she’d want.
WRETCH: but we wont actually let her have it right
VOIDSY: Hell no. Just bait.
EASTWOOD: Solid, though I can’t help but feel a bit insulted by mine. Rude fucking game.
MILLER: Mine will work great with my nature types!! I can give it to someone like Seaspray so that they can all work together.
VOIDSY: Do you think we can make masks of other gods? Like, ones not in the session.
EASTWOOD: As long as we tell you about them, I don’t see why not. Worth a shot.

VOIDSY: Lastly, we had this idea to make some sort of light thing…
VOIDSY: Three lights, representing the other players in our alliance. They let us know if non-allied TCPs, or enemies, in this case, are in eachothers’ bases.
MILLER: Wouldn’t that set off the admin?
EASTWOOD: Mm, not sure. We’ll have to make them individually, but if we do that, we should be fine.

3/6 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)01:50 No. 858737 ID: fb45d4
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VOIDSY: Knowing Spit’s weaknesses would be helpful. Beating her is our biggest priority. Has anyone ever beaten her?
WRETCH: ive never been in a game where she loses
MILLER: I know the only player as good as her, at least in our pantheon, is Rein! It’s so good at the game, and always wins against her!
EASTWOOD: Grind’s won against her a few times too. He’s a very good player, especially against people he’s morally opposed to.
MILLER: He’s always mean to Rein though….
WRETCH: grinds got fuckin issues end of story
EASTWOOD: That aside, the only weakness I can think of is her lack of self preservation…
EASTWOOD: She’ll do anything to secure the win, even if it means losing a TCP.
MILLER: Oh!! I haven’t really spectated matches but I think Rein mentioned her being mean to her kitties has worked against her a lot.
MILLER: They like being treated right!

VOIDSY: Are you safe from Spit, currently?
VOIDSY: Have you fortified your house, or do you need to move?
WRETCH: i meaaaan
WRETCH: we could but wed have a hard time playin on the road
MILLER: So would she, though!
MILLER: If we watch for her going offline, we can prepare!
MILLER: I’ll even keep an eye on it for you, so you can focus on being safe.
EASTWOOD: That should work alright, we’ll keep our eyes open.
MILLER: you dont have eyes tho…..

VOIDSY: We’ve got the Unhallowed Sanctuary now- and we should definitely use it.
VOIDSY: Can we make any kind of way to supervise what goes on in there?
EASTWOOD: I wouldn’t imagine so. Nice idea, but...eh.
VOIDSY: If the sanctuary stops kill commands-
EASTWOOD: If I understand it, it will. Commands definitely count as god interference.
VOIDSY: Alright, good. We need to make sure that our TCPs know not to take mortally injured TCPs out of the sanctuary until they’re healed, because I’m sure they can still hurt each other.
VOIDSY: We should also explore it together before Spit does, so tell your TCPs about it. We’d really like to see what’s down there, but we have to maintain a sense of trust with our TCPs, that they’ll be completely unsupervised and free to discuss things on their own.
VOIDSY: Let’s equip them with enough things to go down safely, and if they tell us how it’s like, that’s up to them.

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VOIDSY: How does the defection system work?
EASTWOOD: You’ll know if your TCPs lean towards going rogue. It’s not a fast process, but the more they want to bail, the worse your connection gets to them.
EASTWOOD: If things start going fuzzy or distorted when you’re focused on one, tend to it before it gets bad- just like how you can’t fully hear other team TCPs.
VOIDSY: What counts as officially going rogue?
EASTWOOD: Once a TCP has completely rejected their deity, and refuses to work with them anymore, they’re rogue. It’s a permanent state and cannot be reversed.
VOIDSY: Do they count as their own side, or what?
EASTWOOD: They’re a neutral zone. They aren’t pledged to any gods, nor can they side up with anybody else. They can still work with other TCPs, but they don’t count towards any sort of team.
EASTWOOD: The only time I’ve ever seen a TCP go un-rogue was when someone appealed to an admin- and it sure as hell wasn’t Wax. It’d have to be made by the TCP themself.
EASTWOOD: One more thing- rogue TCPs can be killed without a kill command issued. Once they hit zero, they’re done. No living past that.
VOIDSY: What happens to them at the end of the game?
EASTWOOD: If they survive, they get to go to a place called Paradise- it’s like the plane, but there’s no players.
EASTWOOD: Sometimes they can ask to go with a winning deity of their choice, but at the point where they went rogue, they usually don’t unless there’s friends of theirs that also survived.

VOIDSY: Can you explain admin intervention to us?
VOIDSY: We might be able to set up things that Spit would be disproportionately bad at, but we’re a bit concerned it’d attract the balancing.
VOIDSY: Devil’s in the details, and all.
EASTWOOD: Generally it takes fucking around with things that’d need to be given to everyone to make it remotely fair.
EASTWOOD: That, or anything that tries to circumvent how the game works-

Something feels wrong, all of a sudden, and you can tell it’s not just you- everyone tenses up.

5/6 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)01:51 No. 858739 ID: fb45d4
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You get the feeling you’re not the only thing floating in your little void anymore.

6/6 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)01:52 No. 858740 ID: fb45d4
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AUTOBALANCE IS NOW IN EFFECT!

THE TCP LIMIT IS NOW 30 (MAX)



EASTWOOD: Oh for FUCK’S SAKE

>>858740
oh my god FUCKING FROG CRIIIIIIIMES!!! I can't believe autobalance hits *every* active game if it's triggered in one of them.

What the fuck is that. I didn't think anything could even exist in this personal void aside from us! What kind of knife is this, anyway?
Wait autobalance is on does that mean Wax is going to show up? None of you did this, right? Did Spit do this to force Wax onto her team so she's not as badly outnumbered? Or would that have consequences outside the game so she wouldn't even try?

Well anyway this means Spit will immediately make her remaining TCPs and psyche them up to attack. We need to do the same, except we should scout out the Unhallowed Sanctuary before her cats arrive. If we can get them into the Sanctuary our TCPs have a decent chance of talking them down and getting at least some of them to go rogue, but if not we have them greatly outnumbered and will probably win anyway.
Shit this means we can't make the prize temple...

>>858740
CRIMESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
well I imagine we shouldn't touch the knife.

Spit has some contacts that could eavesdropped on in that session, you know.

>>858740
Anyone else now sharing a vicinity with a blade?

Voidsy shape that void to make assssss~ make it meaty thighs and big handles for Wretch to goop all over 😩😩

>>858742
We don't know about how Wax joins the smallest team yet.

What the fuck!? What's this knife? How is the TCP limit at 30??

We no longer have the time to fuck around while Spit has no cats. We need to finish our base upgrades, talk to Jasper, and get eyes on Spit ASAP.

Im going to suggest to the other gods if those are what we think they are...

Bury them, bury them in the deepest, most remote part of the globe possible.

Anyways beyond that lets go and talk to the admin

What the everloving fuck just happened?

>>858740
Uhhh, guys? There's a knife floating in here with us.....and we don't really want to touch it. We didn't even know that anything other than us could exist in this place where we're at!

Guys, we're scared. Is someone threatening us? Should we call the Admin?

>AUTOBALANCE IS NOW IN EFFECT!
Wait, what's going on?! Does that mean that everyone got one of these knives?!

>THE TCP LIMIT IS NOW 30 (MAX)
Uhhh, if all of us, including Spit have 5 TCPs each, that would make 25, right? So, if the limit has been raised to 30, does that mean that another player has joined the game? Or does that mean that we should make a 6th TCP?

I honestly don't think we should make another TCP. Managing 5 cats is difficult enough! And if we add another cat shortly after creating Jasper, he might think we're trying to replace him because he's not exactly trusting us immediately like the other cats did when we created them!

>>858742
It could be because Frog-Crimes made it in god-space and not the game itself, or it could be that Frog-Crimes gave Spit some ideas.

On the plus side, this means that somewhere out there is a knife that exists for the sole purpose of killing Spit.

>>858740
Don't play with sharp objects, Voidsy.

Eastwood, what just happened?

Panic.

>>858740
"Guys, a knife just appeared here beside me, the TCP limit skyrocketed, and everything smells like frogs for some reason. What the fuck just happened?"

Oh, hey, a knife.
Let's create a divine brisket, slice it, and feed it to our Katz.

>>858740
Group chat: "Guys wtf".

>>858740
Autobalance is now in effect. That's probably(definitely) not a good thing, but I think that also means we have more options on things we can create. So, yeah, this is probably not good, but we can still figure this out!

Ask what autobalance does and also what's with the knife.

If there's a chance ask about making Rein and Grind masks, because no matter what they do they'll probably at least annoy Spit. I want to try make a Wane mask too but I can't remember if we know about her. I think Wretch mentioned her at some point when talking about bad stuff Spit's done and what Wax is like?

Also sorely tempted to create VOID-ONLY READABLE COPY OF THE BOOK "GUYS PLS, LOOK WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH HERE", UNFLATTERING PHOTOGRAPHS OF SPIT WITH COMMENTARY AND INSULTING NICKNAME RECOMMENDATIONS COLLECTED BY VOID "WHERE PROHIBITED" VOIDSWORTH, on the basis that auto-balance might give everyone else a copy of the same book that only THEY can read, since the major consequences of doing such a thing have already happened. Hopefully one with a charming little photo and short biography of ourselves on the inside back cover book jacket. But at the very least we should ask our teammates about doing that.

In any case we have a young TCP we promised to talk to right after we made this call and that's top priority, we're going all-in on this TCP trust strategy so we need to do that before doing anything else even if there's an urgent need to suddenly do a lot. So tell our teammates you have a promise to keep so if there's suddenly a lot that needs doing you'd better go take care of it first so you'll be free again as soon as possible. You trust anything they think up or do in the meantime.

>>858868
just in case this is taken seriously, I feel like we shouldn't do stuff like this without knowing exactly what will happen. We don't want to mess up as bad as they did

1/3 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)19:05 No. 858921 ID: fb45d4
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You’re starting to panic, all of your collective minds screaming. This is a lot to take in, and there’s a lot of questions flooding in. You shove away the intrusive thoughts that won’t help, although you do note that trying to give yourself a shapely ass later wouldn’t hurt your chances with Wretch.

VOIDSY: Wh...what the fuck is that??? There’s a knife, and oh god, what’s happening oh god
WRETCH: i idk but i have one too
WRETCH: fuck man what the hell is goin on
MILLER: I have one also, but I don’t think it’s going to hurt us...it’s just...floating.
EASTWOOD: Some kind of threat, maybe? Creepy as shit.

VOIDSY: What does it do?
EASTWOOD: Don’t fucking touch it, that’s for sure.
EASTWOOD: Like Miller said, it doesn’t seem to be...hostile, by itself.
EASTWOOD: Let’s play it safe. Wax is in the game now, and he has to know.

VOIDSY: None of you made it...right?
MILLER: Heck no!
WRETCH: nah thatd be stupid as fuck
VOIDSY: Then...it had to be Spit.
EASTWOOD: That’s my best guess. Seems like a deliberate attempt to get Wax in the game...shit.
EASTWOOD: That’s a dirty but really effective move on her part, which is going to suck for us.
EASTWOOD: Instead of a 4v1 situation, we’re 4v2.
MILLER: And….none of us have ever won a game before…
MILLER: We’re against the two best players!! Wax made the game!!
WRETCH: welp we’re fucked
EASTWOOD: We can’t just give up. This fucking sucks, but we do still have numbers. I highly doubt Wax even wants to work with her, but he’s gotta as per the rules.

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VOIDSY: Wait, so...this is a lot to take in. What does autobalance even mean?
EASTWOOD: Wax is in the game now, as a sixth player. He automatically joins the team with the lowest number of players, TCPs, or any other kind of disadvantage.
EASTWOOD: The limit hits max to ensure that every team has their full slots.
EASTWOOD: A lot of people who are kind of fucked over bring him in to speed shit along.
VOIDSY: Can we like...use this to our advantage?
EASTWOOD: Not really. Wax can nullify any commands that would cause a warning pre-balance, which sounds awful, but it does keep Spit from pulling anymore horseshit.

VOIDSY: Shit, no prize temple then..
MILLER: No way! I’ll make it anyway, we’ll need it more than ever.
MILLER: With so many kitties in the game, we’ll need to get them acquainted and friendly as soon as possible.
MILLER: Games will be a great way to do that.
VOIDSY: Should we make the masks, too?
WRETCH: yea
WRETCH: may as well
WRETCH: pray theyre useful bc we need everythin we can get to not eat shit n die
VOIDSY: We’ll do that, finish our base upgrades, and get moving as soon as possible.
VOIDSY: After we talk to Jasper, though. We really need to prioritize that.
EASTWOOD: I’ll call Wax and get the details of what happened, but you might want to introduce yourself as well.
EASTWOOD: We may be against each other, but we may have a shot of getting him to take it easier on us.
EASTWOOD: He fucking hates Spit, and if we can assert ourselves as good, trustworthy people…
MILLER: We could sway him!
EASTWOOD: Exactly.

3/3 mortis 2018/01/16(Tue)19:06 No. 858923 ID: fb45d4
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EASTWOOD: Before you run off to talk to Jasper….
EASTWOOD: I’m making my TCPs now, and so should everyone else. Did everyone have a plan for their teams?
WRETCH: yea idk if its any good but im gettin my new cats now
MILLER: Yep! The only thing I didn’t plan is my last one…
EASTWOOD: Okay. We can figure that out.

EASTWOOD: I’ve got
-WHIPP, GUN TYPE
-SONNY, SILK TYPE
-MARVEL, BRAIN TYPE
-CYNTHIA, GUIDANCE TYPE
-PERKY, PILL TYPE

WRETCH: i haaave
-CRUNK, JELLY TYPE
-JETTER, RAZORBLADE TYPE
-SLOP, REVENGE TYPE
-POPPY, SODA TYPE
-SLICK, LUBRICATION TYPE

MILLER: I picked
-SEASPRAY, SEASHELL TYPE
-DANA, HEARTSEA TYPE
-LADY, WATERFALL TYPE
-BRYCE, DRIFTWOOD TYPE
MILLER: It may seem like a weak team, but I get motif and domain synergy for pretty much all of it!
MILLER: Now, there’s still one slot left...I was thinking I could ask for your help!
MILLER: You have a lobster type, which is a really cool sea critter, from your world, right?
VOIDSY: Yep.
MILLER: I want something like that! Spit won’t know what it’ll do, and I wanna see what kind of stuff you all have over there.
MILLER: (i do want to name them bubbo tho so pick something good)

stomatopod

Angler fish

blobfish type

Megalodon. Trust me, you'll love it.

A blue ringed octopus is an incredibly venemous tentacled creature. The mantis shrimp is a creature a little like a lobster, but with a punch the speed of a rifle bullet. They're both quite colorful.

Tell the others about our potions setup before hanging up, so they can copy it.

Priorities:
1. Talk to Jasper.
2. Finish making stuff at our base, unify facilities w/ teammates.
3. Send Jasper scouting.
4. Talk to Wax.

>>858923
Is Heartsea a food type? If not, make a COCONUT TCP.

I think you guys might want to lock your knives away somewhere hidden. We're fine because we don't exist yet, but I'd hate to see what would happen if Spit got her claws on yours.

...But what if you got hers?

>>858923
>Miller wants a sea critter
Well, a Box Jellyfish Type would be a heavy hitter, but proooobably a little too brutal for Miller's tastes. Their stings paralyze and cause extreme pain - they can even kill, but obviously not here without a kill command.
Sure, it'd be good for takedowns, but swaying the cats they hit after would be... difficult.

Alternatively, you could make a Kraken Type. It's a creature of myth, basically a massive squid. Tentacles and bulk would be a less brutal method of detainment.

A less bulky option would be a Sea Siren Type. Not the 'big blaring loud alarm' type siren, but another mythical sea monster. She is able to sooth and hypnotize men with her song, drawing them to a watery grave. It might only affect 'he' pronoun TCPs though, and it might not discriminate allies.

>two of the best players
In a game we've rigged to have very little player interference ;)

So long as we prepare and train our TCPs well, they should be able to handle it in the Unhallow. We just need to make sure to have them scout it out first so they have the home field advantage.

>>858923
Scaly-foot gastropod. its a fucking IRON TANK SNAIL.

An IRON SNAIL type! ( http://tentacletheatre.com/post/120891921180/the-bestiary-scaly-foot-gastropod#_=_ )

gonna agree with scaly-foot gastropod actually

Actually, on second thought, we should probably ask Miller whether she wants offense or defense, since we can think of two badass things off the top of our heads and could give her an unstoppable punching machine with Super Eyes or an unbreakable suit of armor with magnetic scales made from poison.

>>858940
But which one would win, in a fight?
Trick question; the Megalodon would.

We are up against a reluctant enemy and a monster that treats their charges poorly.

Undermining enemy morale and maximising the chances of enemy TCPs going rogue is paramount.

Our cause is noble. Our ends are holy.

>Religion-Type

>>858935
Another good one.

We should give Miller some of our best ideas and see what she thinks. I think Kraken, Sea Siren, and Iron Snail are the best bets so far for creature types. Coconut could make for a hardy sea-themed Food Type as well, would make the team more survivable.

>>858942
A Megalodon would be powerful, but it's iffy for the same reason a Box Jelly is. We're trying to go for a Rogue win, and being too brutal will do little to endear our opponents' cats to us.

>>858935
The mantis Shrimp. SUPERSONIC PUNCHING SHRIMP is also a good creature and we should let Miller pick which she likes more for her team.

"You want a nasty indestructible aquatic killing machine?

You cannot beat the Bobbit worm. Huge, vicious jaws, thousands of legs and a tough carapace."

>>858923
Hehe, lube cat.

Pistol Shrimp would be a good combination of defense and offense while also having a hidden ability Spit won't expect. Single noun form is Alpheidae. On the other hand it'd look a lot like our Lobster, so how about we don't do that.

Chrysomallon would be single noun form for the Iron Snail. Pretty straightforward tcp though? Huge defense, and... nothing else. I thought the point was to come up with something that would surprise Spit? Also she's already got a Seashell type which accomplishes the same thing!

Squid type would be very surprising. Because of the ink. Kraken is about the same thing, so I'd support that too. If we're actually voting and not just suggesting things to wretch, my vote's on Kraken/Squid.

What's a heartsea?

Well, time to convince all our cats to go rogue and create a weird obsession with teaching them to be independent.

>>858954
Yeah, Squid/Kraken is my favored as well. Ink and tentacles makes for good control and detainment.

Kraken type.

Pufferfish

Fugu or Pufferfish.
A beautiful fish that can puff itself up to like 3 times its size. It's covered in barbs that contain one of the most toxic poisons on the planet.

Electric Eel: A sea snake that has a stupidly powerful AOE electrocution attack.

Plecostomus- A Common Catfish with a coating that makes them immune to electrical discharge. Does not actually look like a cat. Bottom Feeder.

Clownfish- A small, beautiful fish with a coating that makes it immune to many kinds of venom.

Pistol shrimp: A sea roach with a truly mind-boggling melee attack. It's impossible to really wrap your head around it without witnessing it first hand.

Octopus: Ambush specialist. Is highly intelligent, can change color and shape to camouflage self. Can Spit blinding black ink for combat purposes and as a burst of speed.

Bottlenose Dolphin: Medium sized mammalian sea creature. Fun-loving. Easily the smartest creature in the sea. Capable of group-tactics and leadership.

Orca/Killer Whale: A close relative of the dolphin. Intelligent. Massive. Tanky. Awe-Inspiring. Can be gentle. Can be Deadly.

Take your pick. All are fantastic options.

If they are going for sea creatures they could go for the 'Glaucus atlanticus' (not only is it toxic even to the touch it can consume things that are even more deadly than it and use their toxins against predators) or the 'lionfish' (one of the worlds most toxic fish) because both are very toxic yet beautiful looking fish. Their beauty could distract the enemy TCPs while if they attack them they'll get a very sting toxic sting that causes severe disabling pain, paralysis and in some cases death.
pictures:
https://cdn3.whatculture.com/images/2015/12/NMpxXF3g.png
https://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/swf_product_images/marine_life/435_radiata-lionfish-venomous_1.jpg

Oh right I forgot octopi have ink too. Good choice, that.

you know, if you really want to go the unexpected route, maybe we could recomend a sea bird. it offers Arial advantage, fits the motif, and none would suspect a bird from a water motif. (side question for milller, what type of life is common for oceans from their place of origin?)

>>859010
While this would normally be very useful, the Unhallowed Sanctuary where we plan to have our confrontations is... underground.

Aside from very large caverns, birds will have problems making full use of their mobility.

>>858923
Seems like you'd want Sea Turtle or Manta, if you want to keep some themes. Miller's theme seems to be calm tropical seas, which means if Miller wants a creature type TCP, it'll have to be calm, tropical, and oceanic creature.
Suggestions: Whale, Manta, Dugong, Encantado, Ika-Roa, Abaia, Shen.

What about a bat-type? They fly and have a way to see in the dark, but I doubt it has something to do with the sea.

>>859033
>>859020
maybe a dolphin then, something with echolocation for the caves.

Kraken or snail

>>858936
oh pleaaaaseee yes this

Hrm you could go
>Leviathan Type
or you could go
>Selkie Type

>>858923
Hagfish are pretty neat and a TCP of one could be useful.
They're sort of like an eel, so flexible they can tie themselves into and out of knots, and can produce a slime that turns the water around it into invisible but incredibly thick gel. Would have been good as a Wretch kitty too.

Definitely Kraken-type. Maybe.
but what about
kazoo-type

for me it's a tie between Scaly-Foot Gastropod and Mantis Shrimp.

Just read that article of the Scaly-Foot Gastropod, god damn we should suggest she use that. What a badass snail.

>>859059
Leviathan all the way

Lots of good suggestions for Miller's new TCP - she seems lacking in offense, so I'd say Peacock Mantis Shrimp, or some species of seawater electric fish (electric eels are freshwater).

But should we suggest what we'll make when we get the chance, so our teammates will know what they're going to work with? Given Spit's liking for pain, I was wondering if maybe an ANAESTHETIST or ANESTHETIC TCP might be a good idea. It might fit with us, too, since an anesthetic "masks" pain, and/or creates an absence of it.

I want to see

A TCP

With an Octopuses typing

In the shade

>>859111
>But should we suggest what we'll make when we get the chance
What are you talking about? We’re not going to make another TCP.

The limit is 30 TCPs and there’s 6 players in the game, which means everyone is only allowed to have 5 TCPs each and we’ve already got 5 TCPs. We literally can’t make another TCP!

>>859115

Oh, right. Sorry, miscalculated.

Everybody always wants to go to the super cool specific animal they heard about because it does one thing really well. But usually there is a reason the rare novelty critter is a rare novelty and not dominating the biome. That one snail is pretty indestructible, sure, but it is also a snail. You know, that thing we use to describe slowness? Our lobster kitty was just a general lobster though. I say we should suggest something that is generally good across the whole genus, like a crab or a shark or an octopus.

Iron Kraken Snail!
or just Iron snail.

mortis 2018/01/17(Wed)16:24 No. 859195 ID: fb45d4
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VOIDSY: What’s a heartsea?
MILLER: It’s one of my motifs, the heartsea flower!
MILLER: They’re really pretty...in Solitude, we grow them and give them to people going through hardships, in a sentiment of goodwill and hopes for a better future.
MILLER: Some people think they’re cheesy, but they mean a lot to me. Rein helped me make them an actual flora versus just a motif, and they do look different from the ones on my body, but….
MILLER: I dunno! I really like that people have given them such a nice meaning.
MILLER: I figured that with how our odds are, we could use one.
MILLER: I got lucky, too.
MILLER: I’m looking at her now, and with motif synergy, it looks like she gets a bonus! She can create heartsea flowers anywhere she touches, that’s normal…
MILLER: But they have a little soothing effect on stressed TCPs!!
EASTWOOD: ...damn, that’s….actually pretty useful.
EASTWOOD: Didn’t expect that from a flower.
WRETCH: good goin mills!! smart motherfucker

You can’t see Miller’s comms screen, but you get the distinct feeling that she’s blushing.

VOIDSY: As for Bubbo, we have a ton of cool sea creatures back here on Earth.
VOIDSY: A lot of them are dangerous, deadly creatures.
VOIDSY: This one, though...this one is all about defense.
VOIDSY: The scaly-foot gastropod, also known as the IRON SNAIL, is one of the toughest creatures there is under the sea.
VOIDSY: Its shell is nigh unbreakable, magnetic, and literally made of poison.
MILLER: Is it cute? Wait, no, silly question...all snails are cute!
VOIDSY: The only downsides we can think of are it being kind of hyper-specialized…
VOIDSY: It’s a snail, so it probably can’t move quickly. It’s entirely defensive, and we can’t really plan on it being a hard hitter either.
MILLER: That’s ok!! It sounds like you guys have a lot of tough punchy stuff.
MILLER: The rest of my team, except Seaspray, is looking kinda squishy. Bubbo should be able to keep them safe with Spray’s help.
MILLER: Let me just…

Eastwood’s interface practically shakes.

MILLER: AAAAA OHHH MY GOSH IT’S SO. CUTE
MILLER: SO CUTE!! WOW
MILLER: THANK YOU IT’S PERFECT
EASTWOOD: .....
MILLER: .....
VOIDSY: .....
MILLER: oh sorry i was yelling



MILLER: whos a good bubbo, its yooooou

>>859195
Glad you like it! :3

>>859195
I like Miller.

Firstly that calming affect might come really in handy for any potential chances to make spits TCPs go rogue.

On other matters we need to check our TCPs for any emotional distress, our territory for anything suspicious.

Can we pull up our minimap to see the territories?

do um. do WE need to make one still?

>>859243
No, another side has been added. One that is contractually req'd to side against us.

>>859195
I kinda want to see it now. Heck I want to see EVERYONE's cute TCPs that we haven't seen yet!

First we talk to Jasper then we make the Prize Temple and then all our TCPs get to have fun in there together!

>>859243
No we have five already. I think that was the last TCP our team needed to make? Spit and Wax are making theirs now.

>>859247
First priority is having Jasper scout out the Unhallow. We absolutely need to know it better than Spit's team, first, or we sacrifice an important advantage. Which means our next step is talking to Jasper.

We'll also need to TEACH Jasper mapmaking before we send them out.

>>859262
>First priority is having Jasper scout out the Unhallow.
That is incorrect.

Our first priority is to talk with Jasper, so that he trusts us. He’s already unsure of wanting to help us, so telling him to do something will most likely have him not trust us even more.

>>859265
As I said, the next step towards our priority is talking to Jasper.

i wanna see so badly

>Tell Jasper:
Hey, I need to let you know we are still gonna have that chat. Something urgent came up, and it's that an Admin has been forced to interact with the session. The war is going to be more chaotic with another enemy, and it's going to happen sooner.
On the other hand every allied team is being made as I say this. That means that we won't have to worry about waiting until our numbers grow either.
I have to speak with one or two more gods urgently before we can have our chat. I love you, and I need you to tell the others this.
>Create weighted blankets and stimming huggable plushies in the living room
I made something, I know right now is a bit more stressful, so I sent something in case it helps.

>Call Wax
Hi there, we haven't formally met.
I wanna start this off by asking if Spit did it, and then I want to ask the exact nature of your rules.
Such as, if Spit's entire party falls, but you win, Spit does not benefit, correct?
And furthermore if Spit's entire party falls, are you able to ally with the remaining gods that would otherwise be fighting against you?
I want to know if your team will die on that hill, and if your rule is absolute.
Outside of that, and this war, I want you to know that I look forward to working with you and your pantheon. And yes, that means we are determined and resolute to win this, as regrettable as it is to have to order those we love to fight against others.

>>859323
I don’t think we should make Jasper wait any longer, otherwise he’ll think we’re making excuses to avoid talking to him.

>>859327
Preface your chat with that instead. Just let him know that major shit is going down, and then have the chat.

No putting it off, Jasper heart to heart mask party is a go!

>>859323

Jasper should be our first priority right now. Besides, Wax probably isn't enthusiastic about any of this and instead of being some newbie he's never met falling all over him right away when he's been dropped in a shitty situation to begin with, and when he's almost certainly in an extra bad mood from having it out with Spit, we should let him get settled in and cooled down a little and he'll probably be more receptive.

>>859365
This.

I hope people don't sugarcoat the truth with Jasper.

Yes, he's our boy and we love him, but we also did create an unrestful spirit for purposes of skullduggery and undermining the enemy.

And we expect him to perform, because he is not replaceable.

Talk to Jasper, apologize profusely for overloading him with skills immediately after we created him. It was an awful thing to do, but as a collective mind you are the occasional spazz.

off screen
Create : 100 more bees but numbered
Teach Jasper : Beemancy
Teach Jasper : synchronized Dance
Teach Jasper : conducting
Teach Jasper : the power of the Bee
Create near Jasper : conductors Baton

>>859581

do not!

>>859581
NO!

>>859581
Not the bees.

>>859581
If we're going to come up with bad ideas, can we at least make them original

>>859581
absolutely not

>>859581
Absolutely

>>859581
Hard no

>>859581
Hard yes

Create Magic Item (Near Jasper): Prophet's Tear
A silver necklace with a small glistening tear-shaped gem.

Effect: TCP's who wear this may reject or redirect to another allied TCP any divine gift or lesson from their god, should they chose to do so.

>>859667
Don’t create that. I’m pretty sure we don’t need that. And he probably wouldn’t use it because he wouldn’t want to redirect an annoying “gift” from us to someone else and burden them with whatever it is.

Also, magic items take away a TCPs health, so if Jasper ever used it, he’d just be hurting himself.

So please, don’t make this.

>>859667
That might interfere with the mechanics of the game too much. I like the sentiment but we're supposed to be a good leader, not a habitual shitposter that relies on gimmicks to keep their bad decisions from having any negative impact.

>>859581
No.

>>859581
>>859667
No to both of these.

>>859667
Wax doesn't like metagamers. Don't metagame.

>>859708
While I'll concur that it was a bad idea, I don't see how it's meta. Our god is in-universe literally filled with dozens of shit-head voices that manifest as talking shit-head masks.

>>859746
Because it is a direct reference to another session. You don't think Wax would pick up on that?

1/3 mortis 2018/01/19(Fri)20:55 No. 859787 ID: fb45d4
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You’re starting to like Miller a lot. She seems really nice, and by the look of it, pretty damn strategic.

VOIDSY: Glad you like it!
VOIDSY: We kind of wish we could see it, though..
MILLER: I assure you, it’ll be worth the wait! It came out so cute, and honestly, kinda broken?
MILLER: Checking it says it, well….
MILLER: Passive ability because creature type, shell’s pretty much indestructible, and magnetic to boot! I don’t think ANYTHING’S getting through that. I don’t think it’ll be too fast, and I’m not exactly sure it can attack things…….
MILLER: But, because of the synergy bonus, poison not only doesn’t affect Bubbo, but buffs it. No health gain or anything, but added defense!
EASTWOOD: Holy shit, what?
EASTWOOD: What the hell kind of planet do you LIVE ON
MILLER: Who cares! Just...dang! That’s awesome!
MILLER: And it’s SO cute. Thank you!
MILLER: All of my TCPs are a bit confused now, seeing as they all spawned in at once…
MILLER: So I’m going to dress them all up and make little rooms and everything.
WRETCH: yea im gonna do that too
EASTWOOD: Same.
VOIDSY: Sounds good. We really have to talk to Jasper now, but we’ll be back.

Everybody gets back to their own planning, and you close the communications to focus on the task at hand. You can call Wax after you talk to Jasper, but for now you go ahead and check your map.

The entire map is visible to you now that all the players are in, and you’re taken aback at just how big the world is.

VOID SESSION MECHANICS: YOU WILL NEED TO KNOW THESE GOING FORWARD!!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oXdPe1J9e7AVkAq_P88oAvMbqUmd61M6Y14m3O2Dkys/edit
this doc contains the rules/mechanics for how shit’s going to work now that we’ve entered the game portion of the quest. this doc may be modified over time, at which point i’ll make an announcement both here and in the disthread. these rules + a link to the doc will also be mirrored in the disthread itself for clarity, so you have plenty of places to reference. keep your suggestions and discussion on how to make the rules/mechanics more clear in the disthread- i will not be taking them here as it’ll distract from the quest!

2/3 mortis 2018/01/19(Fri)20:56 No. 859789 ID: fb45d4
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>CREATE: WEIGHTED BLANKETS, WEIGHTED PLUSHES

You make some little treats in the living room, hoping they’ll help Jasper and the others feel a bit more secure. Primus and Buddy are chilling out downstairs, and seem surprised by the new items- but very happy! Primus thanks you profusely, and Buddy immediately starts sifting through the plush pile for new friends.

3/3 mortis 2018/01/19(Fri)20:57 No. 859790 ID: fb45d4
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>TEACH JASPER: CARTOGRAPHY

Jasper now knows how to make maps- before they can ask why, you tell Jasper that you’re ready to talk now, and they put the mask on, albeit the tiniest bit reluctantly.

I don’t trust them. They brought me into this world, and I just don’t understand why...why me? Why am I the one that has to fight, and kill-

They stop broadcasting their thoughts aloud when you show up, and scoot against the wall a bit.

VOIDSY: Hey. Sorry for the delay... we’re here now.
JASPER: ….hey.

They look nervous, intimidated. You settle in as and try to make yourself look as non-threatening as possible.

VOIDSY: I made some stuff for all of you downstairs. I know it’s stressful right now, and we’re here to support you, in any way possible.
VOIDSY: We love you, and all of our other TCPs as well. But we’re not going to sugarcoat this for you.
VOIDSY: War is coming, and we need you to help us survive.
JASPER: I wouldn’t want you to. I...I want to know the truth. About all of this.
JASPER: I really like the other TCPs, they’re super nice to me...and you act like you will be too.
JASPER: I’ll help you, but I need to know some things if I’m going to risk my life.
JASPER: Why do we have to do this?
JASPER: Why do we have to go to war?
JASPER: Why did you make us, just for us to die?
JASPER: Why...why did you make me?

In reverse order...
For the purposes of skullduggery and undermining the enemy.
Because we could.
Because Spit sucks.
Because existing beats the alternative. Well, unless you're Buddy.

we made you because we had to, to put it shortly. the war that is going to ensue has some strict rules that we have very little control over, and one of those rules is that we must make 5 TCPs. the only choice we had in the matter was for you to be a phantom...

>>859790
>Why do we have to do this?
>Why do we have to go to war?
We wish we didn't, love. There's someone out there who wants to hurt us all. You, the other TCPs, even we gods. Please understand that if we had any other choice we wouldn't, but we're being forced to defend ourselves. It's horrible and we wish things were different, but they're not.

>Why did you make us, just for us to die?
>Why...why did you make me?
We made you to live, Jasper. We made you because we love you. Please believe us when we say that these dark times are transient. They will pass. Until then, we have to hold on together. To live and love together. That's the only way to survive.

>>859790
>Why do we have to do this?
>Why do we have to go to war?
Because we can't always decide what happens. Other gods want war, and staying neutral or suing for peace won't work.

>Why did you make us, just for us to die?
>Why...why did you make me?
So that you could live and make your life into what you want it to be.

>>859790
We have to do this because if we don't win, we will die.
There is a god in this session named Spit who will not allow a peaceful victory, so we have to fight her. Because of the first question, the alternative is to die.
You don't have to die! After the game is over, all the surviving TCPs will be able to live on in Paradise, which is a real place like this one, but without fighting. We hope we can keep all our TCPs alive, including our allies'.
We made you because a Phantom is related to our motif so you'd get a power boost, and also we thought you'd look really cool! You do, by the way. Also we are forced to create five TCPs; it wasn't an option to leave it at four.

We understand how you feel. This game was forced upon us as well. New gods like us must win a game to earn the right to exist. Your next question is probably "why do other gods play", and the answer is... for power. If they win, they get stronger. The world of the gods isn't peaceful either, so that may be a necessary evil.

...dammit I just realized that Spit set up her territory like a tower defense. That spiral is hers right? Heh, she didn't count on a TCP that can walk through walls...

I came into existence not that long ago in a wide void expanse filled with nothing but overtime I found out I could make things. I made land housing the spawning pool then, I felt lonely so I decided to see if I could make a friend to talk to, that is when I made primus. he was confused at first but overtime he and I became friends eventually I decided to make more friends for him so he wouldn't feel lonely. that's when I found out that primus really wanted to explore the world with his friends, I made a puzzle temple and a treehouse for them to explore and have fun with and on the way we met another "god" named WRETCH that at the time we couldn't speak to. so we continued to the puzzles and proceeded to have fun solving them. In the temple they found mysterious devices that shortly after we had grabbed it WRETCH started talking to me through it and told me that this was all a war that if I loose me along with all my TCP friends will cease to exist but if we won we would join them in their world while you have a choice where to go. She also told us that she and her friends where willing to be friends with us so we decided to work together. I found out that this didn't mean that I wouldn't have to fight anyone because soon after I became her friend she told me about a murderous fiend who takes pleasure in torturing TCPs and eating other "gods" that come against them her name is SPIT. All I want is to be part of a world where everyone is friendly and doesn't want to harm each other but as long as she exists in the world I cant have this. Anyway after I found out about her I became scared for you guys so I did all I could to make a safe place where no god can go for you guys in case we are attacked.

>>859790
here's how I think these should be answered. Reverse order sounds nice and flowing, as the poster above has done.

>"Why...why did you make me?"
We made you because you fit a niche that will aid us in ways the others will not. All five of you have a specific set of strengths and weaknesses that, when put together, will help us survive, and to exploit our enemies weaknesses, whether they be weaknesses in war, or hints to their true friendship.

Your best strength is to become invisible and phase through walls. It's underhanded, but information is key. By being in the dark, we endanger ourselves, to those who would hurt us.

>"Why did you make us, just for us to die?"
It is the opposite. We wanted to make friends, and it is others who wish for you to die. One of these people are spit, who prefers winning through war instead of diplomacy. If it was up to us, we would definitely prefer nobody dies, and everyone gets along. It is simply the tactic that us as a collective have decided is not only the easiest, but the best way to win. We simply don't like needless death, and only really want friends. I think you might be able to see that in the things we build, and the things we do.

>BONUS QUESTION "Then why the hell do we have a knife TCP"
Honestly, buddy was made back when we had no idea what we were doing. We love Buddy, and even though it is technically made for war, it is the biggest softie ever and we want it to make friends with everybody like everybody else.

Honestly, in a diplomatic victory, from a TCP type standpoint, Buddy's best use lies in defense from attackers, same with Seaspray.

>"Why do we have to go to war?"
It is not our choice. It is others who have decided that we are at war. Once again, it is our intention to have no war, and instead a diplomatic victory, with no death. Everyone who agrees with us on this has aligned with us in an alliance, and they want peace as much as we do, in case you don't believe that we don't want war.

>"Why do we have to do this?"
Think of it like this. We don't want to do this either, but we have to. People like Spit have forced us into action, and forced us into danger like we're in now. We don't want to make you do this, and really, it's your choice whether you do. But we ask you now. Please stay with us and see it through. We need you to help protect us, and in a way, this is the duty of all of our TCP's. We protect eachother, and we're a family, and that's all we've ever wanted this to be.

So... Do you understand now, Jasper?

I'm going to be honest with you, although you are our creation, your still a person. This wont make our answers simple, as life rarely is.

As much as we would love to sit idly by, and have fun in the joys of life and growth, everyone must emerge from the warmth of the womb. Our enemy god in this game is Spit, a predator acting on malice and ingrained hatred. We had similar hopes for peace, so we have tried talking to Spit, and it resulted in as much as we expected, implacable hunger. No matter where we go, what we do, what we say... Spit will be coming, our only chance to survive is to face them.

If we do not come to face the enemy, they will come to us, but more than that, our enemies are not merely a single sociopath, but those under their cruel domain. The enemy TCPs are people too, we don't want to kill them unless absolutely necessary. We have armed you and your siblings with words knowledge and enough weaponry to pacify the enemy. It may be that Spit has made their TCPs so scarred that they can never go back, but I hope that if we work quickly, their psyches may yet be saved.

Unfortunately we are facing an enemy beyond Spit, as of recently, an admin was called into the game, and they have automatically been assigned to Spits team. While they probably find this to be a fate worse than death... As an admin they are likely convicted into the purpose of the game, and unlikely to become outright hostile to them.

Your existence is complex at first we created Primus, Buddy, and Dad before we had any knowledge this was a game. We made them because we wanted to test our powers, give our creations company, and, enjoy the extreme cuteness that is inherit to TCPs.

By the time we had learned this was a game, we took our creation much more seriously. We made Marnet because we wanted to protect what we had made, and could not do it ourselves. It can be considered morally dubious to create a thinking being for a specific purpose, and that may be correct. Our existence, and our creations existence depend on our success, we cannot afford to be the embodiment of all that is good, we must be its vanguard.

We made you, Jasper, to fill out our final slot, to act as an independent agent, capable of hampering the enemies goals when they aren't looking. It is promising, and impressive that you think this much about the situation, and existence itself. I think a bit of pride can be seen in the ability to think independently, differently. You don't have to act for us, if you truly, truly don't care, its not mandatory. If you do leave us, know that Spit wont give you mercy for defecting, Wax's team will likely be in close proximity to Spit's. The safest bet would be with our allies, though their opinion on rogues may be... less than forgiving.

I hope you understand that this is the truth as brutal as I can see it. Our motives can be obviously enough, an enigma, your never talking to just one of us. Even one voice cannot talk for the collective, but provide our own personal views, which amalgamate.

>>859790
>JASPER: Why do we have to do this?
>JASPER: Why do we have to go to war?
Truthfully, you don't actually have to. It is possible for any of you to defect, but that would mean we could no longer watch over you or help you. Being completely honest, we really want a peaceful run, we don't want you to actually go to War. We're hoping we can find some way to influence Spit's TCPs to defect and join us, because if they did, you could all just end the game peacefully and there wouldn't be any war. But we have no idea if that's even possible with Spit, but if you have any ideas, if you think you can help us with that goal, please tell us.

>JASPER: Why did you make us, just for us to die?
When we first started, we didn't know you could die, we didn't know you could be in pain or hurt, we just thought we were able to make cute cat creatures we could take care of. And now we're in so deep, I don't think we could just walk away without hurting the other TCPs, so we have to keep up, keep going. We don't want you to die, we didn't want any of you to die. We didn't understand our power then, and we're still learning the extent of our power now.

>JASPER: Why...why did you make me?
We only made the concept, but something else made you, you. We can't control everything, we just consider concepts that might be helpful. We don't always know what the outcome is, and we try our best to think of something that doesn't backfire, and sometimes we're wrong. For you, we chose Phantom, because we hoped you'd be something that could help us spy at what Spit has, something that would help us avoid the worst things, and help the TCPs through without getting hurt or killed.

>>859790
“Hoo, boy. Straight to the hard questions, huh? Ok, we’ll try to answer your questions as best as we can.”

In reverse order
I hope you can bear with me, mostly because these questions can have slightly heavy answers, and can be a royal mess to explain.
We made Primus, Buddy, and Dad before we had any understanding of what the situation was, that this plane of existence is like a game for gods. We went into that, and still go into creating you and Marnet, not with the thought of creating subjects, playthings, or even soldiers. We were bringing people into existence with a mix of not full awareness, but without malice or desire to manipulate. With Marnet and you, we had been made aware of the game, and we did hope to create people who would have a strategic impact on the coming war. It's honestly kind of gross to create people with the intent of them being strong, but that's unfortunately something deeply tied to the nature of this game.
But, we didn't make you and the others with the intent for you to die. We never would hope for any of you to feel pain or suffer, but, the act of living does come with the price of making mistakes, and sometimes ending up in an uncomfortable situation because of that. And, the most unfortunate part is that there are cruel, violent people, and that they will force others to do horrible things. There are bad things in the world, and we have to go to war because there is a god named Spit. She is arbitrarily cruel and violent for the sake of being violent itself. She only wants to see others suffer, and, this game results in the winning gods gaining power, privileges. What this means, is that if she wins, she'll be more able to force others in the world the gods live in to suffer. She's killed many people, abused gods and people alike, and killed two gods. There is a survival based motivation to this, but morally we can't sit back and let someone like her win and hurt good people.
But, it's also painful to realize that those close to us are forced to go into war against her, to put their lives on the line. I don't know if the others fully know what is at hand, but they know that their lives are on the line, and they also know it's for a good reason.
I don't have a physical form, which means I can't be there to take the force of any attack the enemy makes, but if we could we would. Trusting us isn't something I expect to come easily, and if you don't feel comfortable with us that's entirely ok Jasper. Nineteen other tcp's are in this with you with the intent to survive this, and everyone who does is given the choice to enter the material plane alongside the god they are allied to, or leave to Paradise, which is like this plane, but no gods, no fighting, and is only meant to be a place of happiness. I want you to know that even though this is scary, that it's a lot to deal with soon after you started living, but if we can all make it through it'll be alright.
Why we have to do this is because the nature of this plane is a game. From what I know it exists as a test for gods to make hard decisions, preparing them for the responsibility of being a god in the physical world. If all the gods were amicable this could all end peacefully, but, Spit is not a good person, and for that reason there has to be a war that does not end until one side is completely gone. We don't like the fact that war is compulsory with this plane. If an alliance cannot happen a war is forced, otherwise this plane does not end. This part is messy because the war is less out doing and more circumstance. Someone wishes to hurt us, and will not stop until we are destroyed.
[Sigh]
Again, I'm really sorry about all of this Jasper. You're a good person, and I think we have what it takes to win this. I will do everything in my power to prevent any of us from dying, and in the moments where we can breath I want you all to feel safe, happy, and confident.
And hopefully we can make something better. Stop Spit once and for all, make the world safer and happier, find a better way of these games so that cats like you don't have to be put through a crisis like this.
If you want a hug, or anything else we'd be happy to give you one.

>>859807
Also, would it help if we started crying? Because I think it would make sense for us to start crying after Jasper just accused us for creating the TCPs for the sole purpose of dying. Those were some hurtful words he just said to us. )-‘:>

>>859809
Eh we've been accused of worse.

>>859809
I think maintaining our composure is necessary here, Jasper wants the truth, bluntly it seems. Being overly emotional could make it hard to come across that this is the hard reality.

>JASPER: Why do we have to do this?

This world is a test. The creator of the test called it a game, so the other gods do too. If we - me, and you TCPs - survive and win, we get to go to another world, the world where the other gods besides me already live. Then we... er, I, I'll call myself I for now, to avoid confusion... will get to truly meet and interact with you, which I would like a lot, and with the other gods, some of whom are my friends who I want to meet very much. It's not a perfect place - bad things can still happen there. But it's also possible to live peacefully and happily there, and I'll help you find a way to do that, as much as I can. I'd like to try make things better there for other people, too. I have some ideas.

>JASPER: Why do we have to go to war?

Mostly because of Spit, one of the other gods in the game. She's cruel and violent, and likes causing pain and fear, so she chose to fight the rest of us instead of working together. I have heard most of this about her second-hand, but she has already taken the first chance she could to try hurt me and Wretch, who I know she's hurt badly before. I've been told she attacks and eats other gods, in the other world. I have an idea for how I could stop her, maybe, if I got there. I still need to find out for sure if it's possible, and I would need to win before I can reach her.

I don't have any hope of just convincing her to not fight us by talking. So, she'll try to defeat us, which means killing our TCPs, or taking them away from us - and I think she would just kill you then, too. I don't want to just believe everything I've heard about her, but I've gotten the idea she'll try to do that as horribly as she can, and from talking to her myself, I believe it. I will try to find a way to win with as little suffering as possible, but it will be very difficult. Spit has played and won the game before, and she's taken advantage of the rules to call the game's maker, Wax, and force him to join her team. We still outnumber them, and Wax hates Spit, so I hope I can talk him into holding back. But to win, to live and escape, we all might have to do some very hard things. To cause or suffer pain, to avoid greater pain. Maybe to kill, to prevent being killed.

>JASPER: Why did you make us, just for us to die?

You are not made to die. You are made to live, and you are alive. You can experience and feel and think, be happy or sad, love and anger, fear and adoration, and so many more things. And while you are alive, you have power, power to change the world as you choose, maybe just a little or maybe a lot, if you're in the right place at the right time, to make the world better or even to make the world worse, if that's what you decide, in a way that will go on after you're gone. You can see, hear, feel and otherwise experience the world in a way no-one else will ever quite be able to, not the exact same way, and you can tell people about it if you want to.

The reason you can die is just because I don't have the power to make you able to live forever.

There's a lot I can do, but I can't do anything, and the things I can do have limits. That goes for all the gods, but me, I don't even have a strong grip on myself, sometimes. I am Void, after all. There's something missing in me, that you have, that the other gods have, that lets you keep yourself in one piece, at least mostly. Instead, I'm... scattered around. In pieces. So some things I'm bad at, like self-control. I think, and I hope, that you and the other TCPs can be better than me, at least at that, and hopefully more.

>JASPER: Why...why did you make me?

I needed to make another TCP. I wanted to make as many as I could anyway, to love and to play and be friends with, but by the time I got to my last one I also knew I needed you, and you needed each other. I tried to make someone who could do things that the others couldn't, and I tried to make them - to make you - in a way I hoped would make you stronger, by being closer to my nature as a god. I'm the god of identity, and discord, with special power over masks, and maybe nothingness. The idea I invoked for your creation was something I thought was connected to those. I'm sorry if that causes you problems, and I'm doubly sorry for loading so much knowledge on you so quickly after you were made. I was worried that I didn't have much time, and... well, self-control problems, like I told you.

I know you don't trust me, Jasper. All I can do is show my trust in you, and hope you choose to reciprocate. First: what I told you about having an idea for dealing with Spit is a secret. I haven't told anyone else, yet. I can't risk Spit finding out, and I'm not sure how some of the other gods would react to it, though I'll need to ask them some questions anyway, to discover if it's possible.

Second: I'm giving you a way to escape me, you and all the other TCPs, me and all the other gods, I hope. I've created an UNHALLOWED SANCTUARY - a place where we gods shouldn't be able to watch you or talk to you, or use our powers. I can't actually see down there to check how close it is to what I was trying to make, and so far when I've made things they often have... extra things, that I didn't expect or decide on. But since it is a sanctuary, it should be safe. My ally gods are going to tell their TCPs about it as well. You can go down there and have a look - I'd like to try give you a few things to help you explore, if you do - and see what it's like, and do whatever you choose to down there. You can tell me what it's like when you come back up, or don't, if that's what you decide. If you really want, you can stay down there, and be free of us. I know you're smart enough to think of all the things doing that would mean. It's up to you.

None of us gods are perfect. We have our weaknesses. It's possible for you TCPs to be smarter, or wiser or just more level-headed than we might be, sometimes. If you decide you need to defy us, you can. I just ask that you learn as much as you can, and think as much as you can, when you make your decisions.

>>859816
Luckily, we can do both, since we’ve got multiple faces.

So I’ll be the mask that’s crying with my feelings being hurt by Jasper’s words and the main body can stay composed.

okay the territory map is in the disthread, apologies for not uploading that!

also yall arent getting shit for an update this weekend holy fuck these text walls are gonna take a bit to sift through